valheim-chat

[foggy glacier]

You vanilla? Any mods?

[feral tendon]

I have always had problems with the terrain.
Actually just janky in my opinion.

But specifically here I'm also starting to get textured glitches just due to the amount of burn textures overlaid over the planes so I'm wondering if I might have broken the math engine somehow???

[prime moth]

no clue but i would submit a video for review or something

[feral tendon]

Because again I have cleared this boss on harder difficulties, everything seems to be respawning with full health bars every time I go through the portal, what used to be yellow colored is now just pitch black as well as a lot of fog particles from the mistlands nearby... Maybe the game is just trying to do too much and is somehow confusing numbers Im lost here

[prime moth]

also id just command console to fix it up how you think it should be or something

[feral tendon]

That's probably going to have to wait until tomorrow they broke the portal.

[prime moth]

f

[feral tendon]

It is an actual hour and 10 minutes by longboat 🫠

[prime moth]

jesus lol

[foggy glacier]

ugh. No secondary portal on the island anywhere?

[light moat]

#building-screenshots message What’s “wrong channel” with this screenshot? 🤔

[feral tendon]

There was, but they broke that one first. I was trynna set it back up when the gjalls decided otherwise

[prime moth]

is it modded?

[light moat]

Don’t think so? 🤔

[foggy glacier]

Your fourth photo shows bushes and vegetation from multiple different biomes. That's only possible with mods.

You've got plains bushes growing next to thistle.

[feral tendon]

The game is but the server is not.
I've already uninstalled mods and refreshed installation.

I think what's happening here is a truly atrocious combination of texture overload, with the mist and plains biomes own critter spawns continuously repopulating the boss fight.

If it was just Yag hitting harder than he should, I could eventually knuckle through.

[prime moth]

sharp eyes

[light moat]

(Not my screenshot btw!)
Staff allows plants from different biomes, since they can be placed using dev commands 👀

[prime moth]

its a very cozy base though

yeah idk what to say other than console command fix up your situation

[light moat]

It’s a very nice build

[foggy glacier]

yeah, but likely most people thought same thing, hence the reactions.

[light moat]

Yee, my thoughts as well. Just curious, thanks!

[foggy glacier]

Tough break.

[prime moth]

ok so i need black cores to make eitr or something?

man i hope theres a bug den here

oh and the sap extractor

ugh

[foggy glacier]

You need pretty much every resource from the biome.

[feral tendon]

Well, we're at peak bullshit rn.

I'm gonna go farm for bombs, then bring an army of like 5 Lox and some wolves. Then just make 300 ice arrows and whittle away at him.

[prime moth]

just let me obtain my magic bs and all is well 🫠

[foggy glacier]

go scrounging then. You need cores, marble, wood, sap and soft tissue.

[feral tendon]

Wait can I use the harpoon to drag him into the ocean?

[foggy glacier]

along with the extractor.

Oh, and Iron and black metal.

[prime moth]

yeah i just wanna make a ton of torches so im kinda locked till i obtain a ton of those

[foggy glacier]

I've usually needed a second bow, too. You may not, with the army your bringing.

[prime moth]

ooooh i just saw the big man. the run must be blessed

[dull warren]

Lies. Black cores are useless!

[foggy glacier]

lol ok.

[feral tendon]

Ah yes the obligatory "wind absolutely has to be against where your going" I have to row across the planet wish me luck gang

[foggy glacier]

Of course.

[feral tendon]

Do mobs eventually drown?

[foggy glacier]

just you

[feral tendon]

I've been thinking about enclosing a dwarf spawn and sinki-

Ah. Only me...

[prime moth]

oh damn double big man check in.... he must be pissed at me

[dull warren]

I had a troll raid recently and was taken aback by how easy they are now for me

[prime moth]

blackmetal atgir is so funny vs trolls

1 parry = dead

[analog hearth]

👀

[tribal trench]

I remember my first time getting to the mistlands. I was like. "Sweet there is a little piece of land thats visable!" Bugs.... BUGS!! THEY CAN FLY!?

landed on my ship and it was a naval bug battle I lost terribly

[dull warren]

It actually bothers me that deathsquitos sound like flies, and not mosquitoes

[feral tendon]

I had Oshaune flashbacks the first time I saw a seeker ngl.

[tribal trench]

I'm telling ya

[feral tendon]

Just watched a firing squad of dwarves kill a sea serpent. 🤷‍♂️

[prime moth]

silver sword not doin hot vs seekers unfort

[steel mica]

Yags fire can stack so it can really shred through your hp in seconds if you get hit my multiple meteors or stay in his lingering fire longer

[prime moth]

is blackmetal atgir better?

[dull warren]

Better than what?

[prime moth]

sorry silver sword for seeker

[dull warren]

ohh I dunno, never run into seekers yet

I'm playing with the flesh rippers lately

[granite grail]

Probably the black metal sword for seekers is better. I used the silver sword tho anyway lol

[dull warren]

Oops, I let autofuel run amok, I have two reinforced chests full of coal now...

[feral tendon]

I think that coupled with my own fires and knockback is what's doing it.
I've moved the portal up the side of a mountain so hopefully he can't hit me from there

[dull warren]

It would be cool if the cartography table provided some kind of weather forecasting capability, it would make it useful for solo players

[prime moth]

im sure theres a chart with all the days and weathers laid out but yeah in game would be neat

[dull warren]

yeah I use https://jotun.games/weather-forecast/ which reverse engineered the weather algorithm but it would be nice if I could forecast the weather more immersively

I mean, IRL I do a lot of wilderness travel, and I have some sense of tomorrow's weather usually, it would be nice to have something like that

Humans can smell a storm literally dozens of miles away if it's upwind

[prime moth]

personally i kinda find it fun to just roam and change plans as needed

i live in a place where you can never count on anything about the weather

[dull warren]

Then, the weather in this game is just... random, so the idea that I can't forecast it at all is a bit weird

I just built a base on a plains/meadow border, it's weird to take three steps and see the weather change from thunderstorm to clear, but I can live with that

[steel mica]

seekers are naturally resistance to physical dmg

so it halves the dmg of your weapon

[dull warren]

ooh, spoiler, thanks

(I don't mind spoilers or I wouldn't be here)

[steel mica]

my bad

I forgor I was so focused on his question

Hey you havent seen what they look like so still spoiler free

[dull warren]

And the game doesn't make it very obvious what is resistant to what, what with all the graphical vomit in combat

[prime moth]

you kinda figure it out by the damage colors but i agree

its a trial and error situation for sure

[dull warren]

Yeah that's what I mean, the colours are hard to catch in the heat of battle

I did figure it out pretty quick that polearms are good for trolls but that was trial and error

[steel mica]

spoiler no open :)
||weapons with elemental dmg type, the elemental dmg will still do full dmg + half of your current weapons physical dmg to seekers||

[dull warren]

Wait this game doesn't have "elemental" damage as in Final Fantasy air/earth/fire/witer, does it?

[steel mica]

basically lets say
(150÷2=75 physical dmg)
(15 elemental dmg)
so 75+15 you get 90dmg

This is just my understanding of the how the calculation works

[glad night]

Fire, frost, lightning, poison
-# can’t remember if others

[steel mica]

So it might be wrong

[dull warren]

I thought posion is a status effect?

[glad night]

Its damaging you, is it not?

[dull warren]

Yes, but just once, or over a period of time?

[glad night]

Over time

[dull warren]

It's just a few seconds in my experience

[glad night]

It’s still a damage “type”

[dull warren]

But does it also inflict immediate elemental damage?

[glad night]

Yes

[dull warren]

ooh

That will change my battle plans...

[steel mica]

the elemental dmg all have their own independent dmg + status effect overtime (e.g fire and poison)

[dull warren]

Yeah I didn't realize they do immediate damage before the status damage

[steel mica]

so if your weapon does 50 elem dmg it will immediately add that to the dmg plus status effect if can inflict

It takes a bit getting your head wrapped around it

but all you really need to know is enemy weakness and resistances and just keep wacking away

[dull warren]

I tend to figure it out by killing everything that moves

[steel mica]

It certainly helps to keep it in the back of your mind but its not necessary

just keep whacking them till they flatline

Weapon preference is also a key factor since you might like one weapon but it sucks at killing certain enemies

so its a balance

[dull warren]

Kill them until they die from it? (missing gif from Hot Shots!)

[prime moth]

atgirs -> swords -> klossen+magic is usually my path

[steel mica]

Im excited for that 2h sword in deep north

[prime moth]

iron mace is always on standby tho 😎

[steel mica]

Looks glinty

[prime moth]

where was that shown?

[steel mica]

in one of the teasers in their news

[prime moth]

oh yeah when I am truely post endgame I love the 2h flametal sword

[dull warren]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H73L7M0xsnM

There we are

My favorite weapons so far are the sledgehammers

They're very... Wrath Of Thor

[feral tendon]

So I dead ass think I broke the math system in the game.

Un/re-equipping armor multiple times now has them doing what they should be doing.

Camping offshore and aggroing individual mobs to kill/despawn them has set them back to normal

Yag isnt stacking fire damage as bad and now I can take hits.

So we're just at the normal level of infuriating horse shit. You know, not being able to move because "???" And dying to fucking mosquitos repeatedly.

I think this seed is actually just cursed.

[regal cave]

u good bro?

[prime moth]

sounds like layer 7 hell

[tribal trench]

This game is just great.. there are times that I wish to challenge myself and then there are times where I simply wish to get smashed and chill by the hearth (like tonight). I am so very excited for the Deep North but I am being patient and finding time in the game so much fun even after all this time spent....

sure it's scaled to be difficult even on normal because every biome has a "right of passage" in my opinion, and it should be hard as it makes the success that much better

[feral tendon]

I am straight up not having a good time.

[regal cave]

its a game isnt life stressful enough

[feral tendon]

This is the game I normally play to relax but I think I may have actually broken the seed somehow.

I have already cleared this boss on hard difficulty I'm on easy.
I have been fighting him for 27 hours now, and I genuinely have no fucking clue what's happening 🤷‍♂️

At least I fixed the armor stats not functioning but the ocean isn't applying the wet status and I'm constantly on fire even when there is nothing burning on screen.

[regal cave]

are you modding?

[feral tendon]

I'm actually tempted to just go load into a different world kill yag there and then put the trophy in this world

[feral tendon]

No this is a vanilla playthrough

[final bloom]

When u crash ur boat into a small island with mist around it because the wind + Valheim decided it was time. Then you hear a horn in the distance and the clouds start moving towards you….

[feral tendon]

Can confirm seeds broken. He's not dropping below half.

Eff this I'll just kill him in a different server.
He won't eventually path to my base will he?

Wait- can I start other boss fights with one still active or will Yag despawn eventually?

[nocturne wolf]

you can spawn multiple bosses from the same altar, so it doesn’t matter if one is alive already

[feral tendon]

Is there a way to soft reset the server, keeping my buildings and such but maybe restarting his boss fight?

[final bloom]

Probably easier to delete him using admin commands?

[nocturne wolf]

stand near him and use the command forcedelete 10 goblinking

that won’t kill him so you won’t get drops or enable new raids

[final bloom]

Yeah, that ^

[feral tendon]

Dope. I'll try this, I think there's a combination of factors going on to make this fight way harder than it should be.

If I can at least reset Yag I can probably kill him then figure out what's going on with the rest of the issues--
I've got over 800 hrs and this all feels extremely "off" compared to the last time.

Something I am suspecting is that repeatedly moving saves between deck and PC may have caused an issue?

[nocturne wolf]

i don’t think i’ve seen someone with this issue before 🤔

[feral tendon]

I think I've just scrambled the maths system, somehow.

Either repeated portal hops, file transfers and just refusing to quit and thus turning several miles of plains into nothing but scorch marks may have just been a bit too much??

I don't know enough about how the game works to sus out what I've actually done.

[steel mica]

both a king and a wizard 🤔

[nocturne wolf]

https://valheim.fandom.com/wiki/Runestone
ashlands runestone spoiler

||When the King of the Emerald Flame flew away to visit the wizard king of the Fulings, his own thegns rose against him and torched the palace with the Winter Child inside.||

[steel mica]

[upbeat crypt]

just to be clear, the new test is just the new save system?

[merry pebble]

As written in the ptb patchnotes, yes

[upbeat crypt]

so it's like Project Zomboid now?

PZ saves every map chunk in a small file

[merry pebble]

Then maybe, the main difference for average player should just be faster save times.

[chrome badge]

This is a standard practice for many games these days, it is likely that Iron Gate is into an optimizing phase of development for 1.0, and retroactively added this feature to an older version for stress testing. I would also remind that #valheim-public-test is the channel to discuss such things, as not all players wish to be spoiled on future updates.

[wind lark]

do we have an ETA for when Deep North and 1.0 will release?

[tacit crystal]

No dates announced yet.

[steel mica]

I actually spat my drink when I saw the ping in the servers icon 😭

Had to clean my phone

[cobalt sinew]

My hear just raced looking at the ptb notification

[sweet gorge]

Is fenris armor still good in mistlands like i have seen reddit talk about it and thought in the biome of pig cliffs speed boost is great

[glad night]

Not all of us are in the ptb, and don’t want to hear about ptb things

[frozen void]

beat reto without losing any skill(i started the first encounter with no skill drain)

[final bloom]

What’s a ptb?

[final bloom]

Dunno what pig cliffs are, but I only play with light armours and fenris is one of my fav.

[frozen void]

Public test branch

[paper marsh]

Pretty good, gonna take semi-heavy damage though.

A lot of people like mixing armor. Maybe just a pair of fenris legs, or legs and chest, and then a heavy armor helmet

[dim python]

i dreamt i went sailing to bog witch but didn't bring the materials necessary for a portal

[paper marsh]

Spontaneous no-portals playthrough

[brittle flower]

lol once i get home i need to show this place where the bogwitch spawned

the island is enormous

and has a really long straight beach with a leviathan so close to land you can even build on it

[dim python]

have you considered loading a backup?

[feral tendon]

No, I didn't know this was an option.

I ended up just killing him in a different file for the progression.

Used chrom and bonfire method with meades and padded armor

[analog hearth]

what method is that?

[feral tendon]

Made 4x bonfires with one under his pedestal as a retreat option, mainly used them to keep my stamina Regen up but also by walking the big man over them.

Chroms the great sword you get in the mistlands, I used it last time to kill him as well

[foggy glacier]

Morgen gjall

[feral tendon]

Wait I used frostner last time.
Been like a year since I went to my old file I can't even remember why I have chrom

[dim python]

just letting you know for the future 💗 backups are bae especially if they're manual copies of your valheim folder

[merry pebble]

If you dont like it why are you here? 😄

[feral tendon]

Omg life saver- I'll definitely be keeping backups for my unarmed unarmored run

[merry pebble]

Good 😄

[frozen void]

i mean yeah

[merry pebble]

🤔

[frozen void]

how do you know whether asatru mods valheim or not?

[merry pebble]

When did i do that? 😄

[frozen void]

do you play vanilla?

[dim python]

just know manual backups work a lot better with local world and character saves. i've never tried to make a manual backup of cloud stored content

[merry pebble]

Heh, vanilla 😄

[frozen void]

oh i guess they were right you dont mod

[merry pebble]

Seems to be the case

Still have no idea why they think i would tho 🤔

[feral tendon]

Seems like they are just lashing out to lash out.

[mental wren]

Real silly question, was freezing damage nerfed hard?

[tacit crystal]

Afaik no nerf for it.

[merry pebble]

Yeah, i know 😄

[mental wren]

Huh. Maybe the food I'm eating is the difference then...

[foggy glacier]

Or what you’re wearing?

[mental wren]

Then again it's been ages since I played from the beginning, so maybe I'm just remembering it way more cruel. I was doing a nude run lol

[feral tendon]

Do you have the wet debuff? I'm fairly sure that it makes the ice hurt a smidge more

[mental wren]

Oh maybe I've had that in the past.

[tacit crystal]

Wet debuff makes you weak to frost.

[thorny laurel]

hey! do we have any dates when valheim will be 1.0.0?

[foggy glacier]

And ice hits hard on a naked run

[mental wren]

But yeah I was surprised I could just pretty much just walk across half the mountain and get my stuff no issue

[foggy glacier]

Not yet

[thorny laurel]

any approximations?

[mental wren]

Eh sometime

[foggy glacier]

Nothing

[feral tendon]

When did they claim they were?

[mental wren]

Tomorrow tomorrow your only a day away.

[mental wren]

Don't entertain this lol

[tacit crystal]

Official info is "when it is ready".

[frozen void]

I am though, you're free to speak your mind on the game, no need to attack others who disagree with you

[feral tendon]

But I wanna argue lmao 😂

[mental wren]

Pffft get a room 🤣

[frozen void]

Yeah that's not helping anything

[mental wren]

Maybe have that grey dwarf sit in the corner kicking his legs

[feral tendon]

Fiiiine lmao

[frozen void]

Deep north will drop when it drops, this sentiment has been the same since 2021, it'll be ready when it is.

[mental wren]

We jumped back on the game after we managed to get our friend a gaming laptop finally, and it's been so much more fun as a trio xD

[tacit crystal]

My group was trio too, we played one playthrough recently and it was fun lol.

[mental wren]

A lot more crazy random shit, and definitely a bit easier when dealing with hordes of enemies

[analog hearth]

man I should get a gaming laptop soon(tm)
I think my potato can't take it anymore but I wanna valheim

[mental wren]

Partner is on Mac (boooo) but waiting and hoping to get a steam machine XD

So glad there's Mac support tho, and crossplay available

[analog hearth]

how recent was Mac support btw? Or was it there from the start

[merry pebble]

Nope, i think maybe a year ago?

Maybe less than that even?

Soon two years ago 😄

[mental wren]

Not sure but I don't think it's been around that long

[feral tendon]

I am going to the swamp does anyone want anything?

[mental wren]

Ah yeah some yummy rotting entrails

[merry pebble]

June 10th 2024 came Mac support 😄

[mental wren]

So pretty much yesterday

[small orchid]

i cant wait for maypole season

[mental wren]

Wheeee it's all skewed, it's getting winter here

[feral tendon]

gets thwomped by an abomination as soon as I step in

[strange cradle]

Yup. Our ole' friend. The abomination.

[mental wren]

Lol

Tree hugger much?

[strange cradle]

"It's been dead so long it started living again."

Sounds like some teenager rooms. 😄

[mental wren]

Hahahahaha I definitely know one or two that fit that description

[feral tendon]

Well I had to pee and the tree man just didn't appreciate it 🤷‍♂️

[mental wren]

Surprised he could tell, the constant pouring rain doesn't seem to bother them

[strange cradle]

It's a distinct taste.

And I really like my Mac, thank you. 😉

[mental wren]

......I will not comment.

[strange cradle]

😄

[feral tendon]

Wait the apple right?
THE APPLE RIGHT??

[mental wren]

I mean he loves his Mac too but yeah I just don't

[strange cradle]

Apple Macintosh. Yes, that one.

Well, as long as WE like it, everyone's good, right? Right? ;D

[analog hearth]

I like (eating) apple

[strange cradle]

They're healthy.

[feral tendon]

I've got heavy issues with the company ngl.

Their art programs are really good though imho

[analog hearth]

something about apples scares doctor away
I dunno norse magic

[strange cradle]

Well, ALL major big multibillion dollar companies are shady as f***

Apple's no distinction there, I guess.

[feral tendon]

Truuuuuuu

[mental wren]

Well. Since he's playing valheim with me again it's fine. But there's definitely a few issues I got with his Mac. Not least it zapping me anytime I touched his arm

[strange cradle]

😄

[feral tendon]

Have you tried appeasing the machine spirit?

[dim python]

just made a portal named "forgor"

it's for when i forger my other portal's name

[mental wren]

Well... In this case it's a nonexistent grounding pin.

They do sell it separately for 60$ after charging 8k for the Mac itself.

[feral tendon]

To shreds you say

[mental wren]

Nah just not included.

[feral tendon]

Somewhere there is a mosquito outside my plains base forming some oceans 11 ass plan to break into my house through the chimney and die in my fireplace.

I can hear em

[foggy glacier]

They're planning a coup.

[feral tendon]

Quickly, the mosquitos are plotting a military junta to acquire my blood bags.

[foggy glacier]

Toss the bloodbags out the window to distract them so you can stage a military assault.

[mental wren]

Pffft mossie kamikazes

[feral tendon]

Your right. I should give the dwarves Mosins.

[foggy glacier]

A fine idea.

Just don't tick them off.

[mental wren]

Aight sleep time for me, night

[feral tendon]

I am the lorax I speak for the trees.

The trees are speaking vietnamese

[dim python]

based ms paint furry

[dim python]

vietnam is a cool place but that's offtopic

[feral tendon]

Honestly- I know the games Norse specific but veitnam is a genuinely beautiful place and having that as a modded biome would be hella dope imho.

[dim python]

maybe i should move there

i don't mind being poor and i too love nature

[small orchid]

watttt. im not a furry

i just love foxes

[dim python]

i love wasps and i'm not a furry either, you're right

[small orchid]

valid

[feral tendon]

Speaking of, I found a massive one earlier today. Some kind of wood wasp. Size of my thumb

[small orchid]

talking about a dirt dobber?

[dim python]

sounds like a queen

queens are usually umungous

[feral tendon]

Had to scootch her some but she was polite enough to only bite me once.

Didn't wanna step on her.

[dim python]

it must've hurt 😂

you sound very patient i'm thankful for that

[feral tendon]

I have a thing about killing.

I don't unless I plan to eat it or it planned to eat me

[dim python]

wow 🥺

your pfp betrays your virtue

[feral tendon]

My wrath is for those who earn it.
And people who insist on going 40 on the highway

[feral tendon]

It was a queen horntail wasp.
Guess she bit me cause they actually can't sting

Personally I can't wait for June bugs. They get so angy when you pick em up.

[dim python]

very handsome wasps

[feral tendon]

Yee

So is it just wasps for ya or is it bugs?

For me it's just critters in general. Had an Arkansas orb weaver functioning as a window at my grandpa's place. In his words it was "someone to talk with while I poop, she also keeps the pests out"

[dim python]

i like spiders

[feral tendon]

I'm in partial to spiders but I do have a couple of house spiders that I allowed to stay in my cactus.

My girlfriend hates them, but my neighbors have roaches and I don't so who's winning?

[dim python]

something funny is

i don't like honeybees that much

i prefer bumble and carpenter bees

they're fluffier and native to my land and friendlier

i'm ambivalent about honeybees

[rain sapphire]

Thinking of this, a funny idea would be Big spider in some rare dungeons in Black Forest

[grave crow]

the day i stopped being arachnophobic was the day i saw a centipede in my shower

the world has bigger problems than a mere 8 legs on a bug

100 is much worse

astronomically

[feral tendon]

A horse sized trapdoor spider actually operating like an ambush predator would be DEVASTATING. Imagine just watching your buddy get yoinked down a hallway and a door slams shut.

How ya explain that to the rest of the village lmao

[feral tendon]

Went to Hawaii to visit some folks once. Centipede the size of a babys arm was just... Horrifying.

[feral tendon]

I think the only animal I really have a problem with on principle has got to be a mountain lion, that's because I was personally hunted by one on two separate occasions.

Other than that like animals are super easy compared to people

[dim python]

you lost me a bit there

people are my favorite animal 🥲

[feral tendon]

They're my least favorite but I tend to run into the really bad ones...

But that's why I'm here participating in chat-- to meet new ones that aren't bad

[analog hearth]

too bad
'cause I'm bad, man

[feral tendon]

Mission failed, well get em next time

I wish that there were more traps.
Like maybe snares or bear traps or heck even fire pots.

Just give me the tools to turn the Black Forest into the DMZ

[analog hearth]

there are traps?
How do I use them

[tacit crystal]

They are buildable and require material crafted during Mistlands.

[feral tendon]

Wait I thought we only had Spike walls?
And the puffer fish technique

[tacit crystal]

Spikes yeah, but proper trap later.

[analog hearth]

pufferfish wha?

oh yeah I remember there is a barrista

ballista? lol

[grave crow]

seems nice to live down there until you meet the bug population 😆

[feral tendon]

If you slap a pufferfish on an item stand it occasionally deals poison to enemies.

I've also used smoke but that requires a lot of setup

[feral tendon]

Yeah but the geckos were cute

[grave crow]

the cute amphibians make up for the nasty bugs dont they lol

[rain sapphire]

FINALLY someone who agrees humans are the best animals

[grave crow]

also a bonus when they act as pest control

[grave crow]

mine as well cuz personhood and junk

[dim python]

humans have plenty of problems but i believe in their redeeming value

[grave crow]

human potentiality as well

[feral tendon]

They really do

[feral tendon]

I kind of don't but that's only because I have a track record of running into some of the genuinely worst examples of our species.

Tonight's example was I caught a guy shitting in our pool at work.

[dim python]

🤢

[rain sapphire]

I mean, humans are fun. And a lot of reason for it to be our favorite kind :

• First, I am human, and I like myself.
• Second, I can discuss with a human, a great plus if you want to vent to someone
• Third, humanity invented Internet, games, planes, and may we have soon space travel
• Etc etc etc

[dim python]

i have a lot of patience for people

[rain sapphire]

(The first point being the most important one)

[dim python]

behind every human is a human

even the ones that shit in the pool

[rain sapphire]

I mean, it's just common sens to like our kind first 🤣

[feral tendon]

Valid, but I'd genuinely rather be a tree.
No thoughts, no problems, just photosynthesis

[rocky forge]

Humans are interesting creatures.
But im not good at dealing with them :/

[dim python]

i'll admit sometimes i'm sad i'm not grains of sand on a beach

i gave up wanting to be a different person now i want to be inanimate

[regal cave]

Did u see the rocks we found in the middle of no where a million miles away that we cant mine its sick

Brb cheeseburger

[rain sapphire]

We don't know, I mean, trees are fascinating 'cause we can't even comprehend their way of life, like, do they think ? How do they think ? How do they feel....

We have a gist of the process in animals and insects since they are "like us" in a way, but we don't have any ground to start with with trees, and other flora kind

[dim python]

see the thing that makes sick a word meaning cool is why i like people

"these are the sins i died for" from jesus kind of moments

[regal cave]

There are trees older than 2026

[rain sapphire]

You could have been a wanderful Motherboard (Since silicate used for it's fabrication is from sand 😇 )

[regal cave]

Coming soon

[feral tendon]

They can feel up down left and right with little fluid-filled cavities set aside for specifically this purpose-

Trees aren't really a plant so much as a evolutionary body plan so there is a lot of wiggle room here.

For example palm trees and bamboo are straight up a member of the grass family.

[dim python]

i used to think oil was computer stuff from ancient ancient nonhuman people

[rain sapphire]

Yes, but i mean, all plants are out of reach for us to comprehend in an empathic way

[feral tendon]

Speaking of plants my bell peppers have finally sprouted so it's time to put them in dirt

[rain sapphire]

That's part of the mystery in the world

[regal cave]

Wait till their cootie lemons drops

[dim python]

plants do feel and i personally believe they can scream

[rain sapphire]

But yeah, you are right for the fun fact about palm trees and bamboos, the grass pretending to be trees

[regal cave]

Banana

[dim python]

"i'm the giant grass that makes all of the rules"

[feral tendon]

With respect I got to disagree, only in the last 10 years though have we started down this path-- s it's not exactly mainstream science yet, but a lot of plants seem to be able to communicate through fungal colonies and chemical sensors.
This is kind of one of my 'tism things.

I wouldn't say plants have complex thoughts or feelings about the state of the world but they can definitely tell when they're being stepped on cut down or attacked.

[rain sapphire]

They do, we proved it i think, we even proved that they can be "hurt" and feel physical pain, we even have poofs that they can trade with champignons.

[feral tendon]

It's like a whole rabbit hole and I can send you some links if you're interested 😊

[rain sapphire]

Ofc I am

[feral tendon]

The biggest example of chemical sensory is whenever you mow the lawn-- that smell you're getting is the grasses specific way of communicating to wasps that like to Target grass eating aphids

[feral tendon]

https://youtu.be/xEQJ0byHMXw?si=wbA2C4aSVHM60P1P

I like to binge watch these guys instead of normal hobbies

[regal cave]

Youre anthropomorphizing chemistry

[dim python]

as much as i love wasps this sounds like a good reason to tell people not to have lawns - less wasps 😊

[feral tendon]

They have a sister channel, animal logic, which focuses more on animals obviously but you know it's all very well researched

[feral tendon]

My line of delineation was complex thought.
I am specifically avoiding anthropomorphizing the plant.

Multiple species of plant can react to the environment around them-- notably in the link I provided.
But no the plant isn't going to be pondering its own existence.

[regal cave]

Eloquently redundant

[dim python]

there was a doctor who episode about a forest of trees capable of thinking very slowly

day 777

[smoky quarry]

[tacit crystal]

Me smelling fresh grass smell.

[feral tendon]

With respect, not really?
One of these things requires basic input output.
For example flowers closing up at night because they can tell what time it is. No thinking required.

The other one of these is complex thought...which requires neurons. Like a lot of them.

[regal cave]

They can not tell what time it is....

There are hormones and chemicals that react to light

They also know which way gravity is

Or if they are touching something

[feral tendon]

Yes?

This is how they "know" when to close

[light moat]

My trees speak to me

[regal cave]

Again, anthropomorphizing

[feral tendon]

You are arguing semantics in circles.

I have drawn a line of delineation a very clear one that is hard to misunderstand.

Plants are capable of reacting to their environment and storing basic information.
for example which way is up.

You are completely inventing me anthropomorphizing them further than that 🤷‍♂️

[regal cave]

K

Well researched plant screams

[tacit crystal]

Friendly reminder, this is Valheim chat. You can continue in https://discord.com/channels/391142601740517377/1202174832729661470 👍

[regal cave]

I resign from the psuedoscience

[rain sapphire]

I mean, we are too chemistry

When stressed, we produce Cortisol and Adrenaline
When attached to something, we produce Occytocine and dopamin
When hurt, we produce homocysteine and other things...

The real point I agree with you, is that we absolutely do not see the world the same way as other life forms

and I cannot even comprehend life from a plant point of view

[feral tendon]

That's probably a good choice.

It's not pseudoscience it's very heavily documented you can just go read this shit.

I am moving to general

[regal cave]

Have

I do agree on the adjective about your "studies"

[feral tendon]

Response in general.
I've got 10 minutes before I go pass out

[celest coyote]

Lmao getting a ping from public test and almost having a heart attack just for it to be a save system change(although they do sound like awesome changes)

[real osprey]

Why the hell are people arguing about plants thats stupid

[analog hearth]

how do I get into public test? 👀

[tacit crystal]

Right click to Properties. Enter code ||yesimadebackups|| there.

[analog hearth]

nice code 🤭

[tacit crystal]

Reminds making backups of your saves in case problems appear.

[prime moth]

do we know if there will be continued dev work post 1.0?

im assuming yes but i realize now that may be a bit much to presume lol

[tacit crystal]

Bug fixes, performance improvements, possible minor content.

[real osprey]

Does the group finder just not work?

[chrome badge]

Looks like it is working to me, are you unable to post there?

[real osprey]

No just no one ever responds is it just me or something ?

I make one every like 7 or 8 hours but that doesn't help

[chrome badge]

Looks like someone is typing in your post at this very second 🤔

[prime moth]

caved and made a blackmetal sword

silver one just wasn't "cutting it" for the seekers

[regal cave]

I actually loled at that

[prime moth]

dad jokes

[ebon osprey]

Mistlands When?

[frozen void]

https://tenor.com/view/elrond-lotr-lord-of-the-tings-lord-elrond-3000years-gif-13229890

[prime moth]

i was just watching the old biome release vids lol

am i crazy or did the mistlands have like spider webs in their prerendered era?

[frozen void]

They did

[regal cave]

so im eating raspberry honey and cooked deer using a bronze buckler and i can parry a fuling thats op

[strange cradle]

That's... pretty awesome. What's your armor?

[lunar sapphire]

"A bronze buckler" (in reply to electricdawn)

[dim python]

what i think subject means is that parrying is irrespective of armor

[strange cradle]

Oh... I think somebody (Subject?) mentioned that previously.

[mortal kindle]

can somebody explain valheim a bit to me

like is it just one world like the forest or are there different seeds etc

[strange cradle]

It's randomly generated per seed.

And there are a multitude of biomes.

You start out in the Meadows. You will discover other biomes later.

Every biome has a boss that needs to be conquered.

[mortal kindle]

is it good to build your base in the meadows?

[strange cradle]

Absolutely.

[mortal kindle]

and do torches or fires stay eternal or do you need to make it again

[strange cradle]

You can have as many bases as you want. You need to refuel.

[mortal kindle]

oh alright, and the combat

[strange cradle]

Stay out of harms way. 😄

[mortal kindle]

i saw it and i saw like fire shooting sticks

[strange cradle]

Fire arrows?

Oh you mean magic.

[mortal kindle]

i dont know it looked like a stick with black wind or something on it

[strange cradle]

Yes, that will come MUCH later in the game.

[mortal kindle]

and can the bosses or mobs break your base, and if so is there an option to stop that

[strange cradle]

Don't worry about it now. Just play and enjoy discovering everything for the first time.

Yes, you will get raided. Not by bosses.

[regal cave]

troll lvl 3

[mortal kindle]

oh alright, and last question, can you make small bases underground?

[strange cradle]

Nope.

Only if you make a hole in a rock big enough... and... there's one more option. You need to find that one. 😉

[mortal kindle]

oh ok, thanks a lot

[strange cradle]

You're welcome. Have fun!

And one more tip: Do NOT rush.

Take your time. Enjoy the sights.

And always be VERY well prepared.

[silk token]

lol just found a leviathan with 2 groupers and 2 coral cods on it, YOINK

[strange cradle]

Nice. Chitin and fish as a bonus.

[strange cradle]

You can turn raids off, but you CAN'T stop mobs from damaging your base.

[mortal kindle]

oh, can they break like stone walls?

[strange cradle]

Absolutely. 😄

You need to protect your base.

A lot of people swear on earthen walls, which are (mostly) indestructible, but look ugly.

But usually, you build a perimeter wall, and then defend it with stakes.

You will still have to repair stuff every once in a while.

[mortal kindle]

earthen walls, is that like dirt? because earthen, earth, you know

[strange cradle]

Yup.

[queen wadi]

Dirt dirt

[silk token]

have you made a hoe yet?

[strange cradle]

If you make your base in the Meadows and you turn raids off, you rarely need to bother about base damage.

[mortal kindle]

i'm thinking about buying the game because it looks fun, but i wanted to know how the game is

[mortal kindle]

oh alright, i'l do that

[strange cradle]

If you have raids ON on the other hand... your base might get smashed to pieces.

The game is VERY addictive, if you're in for some massive time sinks, like foraging, mining, cultivating, animal raising, crafting, building and exploring and the like.

Combat is part of the game, but it's not the major aspect.

[silk token]

game is beyond worth what they charge for it even if you play through it once and never again

[strange cradle]

Best game I've ever bought. Period.

[pulsar mortar]

Best to play it with friend, for some people solo can be quite boring

[noble wave]

Love it. It's entertaining and can be as challenging as you set it up to be.

@strange cradle I agree!

[mortal kindle]

sadly no one of my friends has it, but i love building bases and i heard that building is in depht in this game

[prime moth]

first gjall down wooooo

god they still terrify me

[pulsar mortar]

It is, with my friend we spent about 4 months building our castle

[noble wave]

If it's your server, you can build whatever, wherever you like, as many castles as you want. Awesome game for building, manipulating the terrain. It's great!

[elfin fable]

I got a question. Why doesn't the hoe stamina usage decrease with, say, the gardening skill. Its ridiculous how much stamina it uses to try to just flatten ground. And as far as I can tell the usage never goes down

[silk token]

it is, what some purely builders do is insane. also just for normal play theres an interesting stability feature like you have to brace walls/roofs with stronger wood or metals to build higher. there's a comfort system that increases a rested buff so building extra furnitures or doodads in your base has a purpose, etc

[prime moth]

do gjalls spawn more often in rain or something?

[tacit crystal]

Nope.

[pallid folio]

What kinda armor are you supposed to have going into the mist lands

[merry pebble]

Either padded or vile 🙂 tho plenty people rock fenris or some combo with root harnesk

[oak river]

Padded or vilebone or fenris

Root harnesk will be very OP in mistlands cuz it'll halve seekers damage

But make sure you have fire resistance wine with you

[merry pebble]

-# Well, it will halve the dmg from most of their attacks 😄 some do blunt

[pallid folio]

Hm. Is carpace armor what you get from mistlands? Been a hot minute since I played. I have maxed out carpace armor yet I still get absolutely doodooed on there

[merry pebble]

Yep, that you get from seekers materials 🙂

[pallid folio]

Bruh then how do I get almost one shot using that armor fighting the soldiers lol. Have they like made it to where certain armors are better going against certain mobs?

[oak river]

Nah soldiers just do lots of damage

[pallid folio]

That’s with like 200 health btw

[oak river]

What food are you eating

And what difficulty are you on?

Also pretty much every biomes has an enemy that'll 2 shot you if you don't block or dodge

[pallid folio]

Normal, and not sure the exact food , im not playing rn just reminiscing what happened to me lol. Died like 4 times trynna fight one soldier. All I know is im stamina based all the time no matter what. Whatever im eating gives me around 230 stamina and around 200 health

[oak river]

So seeker soldiers aren't that crazy. Trolls and abominations and stone golems etc will also do most of your health

[pallid folio]

Ohhhhhhhhhh ok that clears everything up then. I wasn’t considering the soldier to be equivalent to a troll and other big mobs

[merry pebble]

Well, soldiers are more of an equivalent of greydwarf brutes, draugr elites etc 😄

The flying friends are troll/abom equivalents

[nocturne wolf]

i'd put them both with trolls

[pallid folio]

I stopped playing when mistlands first came out and I didn’t do much exploring in the mistlands. People I played with at the time did all that grinding, eventually split off so I used everything they gathered for my armor lol

I’d say that’s backwards, the flying dudes are easy to kill. It’s the damn soldiers I struggle with. Their animations aren’t easy to learn, and it’s super easy to literally take a couple steps away from that flying things shots

[oak river]

Yeah I'd say soldier and gjalls are both troll type enemies. Like how black forest has trolls and bears

[merry pebble]

-# I go mostly of their ID for this 😄 i agree they do hit quite a bit stronger compared to the normal biome enemies than brutes or elites do, at least by feeling alone, didnt compare values.

[pallid folio]

Ik I can google it but im bored so whatever, what’s the order after mistlands, idek how many biomes they’ve added since I’ve last played

[nocturne wolf]

there's only one biome past mistlands for now

[merry pebble]

Ashlands and then Deep North 😄 which is still being worked on

[oak river]

Deep north is pretty far into development though. We don't have any official time frame but I'm sure it won't be too long

I think it'll come out this year, but don't rely on that info lol.

[merry pebble]

We really dont have any way to estimate how long it might take tho... 😅
So everything is just speculation ofc 😄

[oak river]

Yeah but based on normal update schedule and dev teasers I think this year or early next year sounds fair

[pallid folio]

Is ashlands where you get that marble looking building material? It’s grey and that’s all I remember about it

[oak river]

And it's coming to Playstation this year, and Playstation doesn't normally allow early access games

[pallid folio]

Fuckkkkkkkk. I wanna build with that so bad. That so many hours of gameplay before I get there lol. I’m only fr playing on a newish server I just joined and we’re barely in bronze 😪

[merry pebble]

What normal update schedule? 😄 Iron gate doesent really have any, they simply take as much time as they need to make a great piece work.

[oak river]

Just the average time between updates

[pallid folio]

Yk what they need to add desperately that I’ve been crying I wish I had everytime I build something? Some damn wooden spiral stairs

[frozen void]

You played mistlands?

[tacit crystal]

Troll/bear equivalents.

[dim python]

honestly black forest is one of the most unique biomes

[prime moth]

1 star soldier scared the shit outta me... then i ran into gjall

[dim python]

do you remain alive?

[prime moth]

no bug dens so far 😭... and i lost my boat on the journy over lol

ye we survived

ultimately that's what matters i guess

[dim python]

what's your plan for the boat home?

[prime moth]

i think i'm just gonna ditch that island and make a new boat

all i need is 5 black metal bars to make the extractor i think

I did run into two dverger towers but it was like 4 mages each, decided i didnt wanna engage them

[analog hearth]

letting the bugs kill them is fun
fighting them... the horrors

[merry pebble]

September 16th 2021 - H&H
March 1st 2022 - Frost Caves
December 6th 2022 - Mistlands
August 19th 2023 - Hildir's Request
May 14th 2024 - Ashlands
October 29th 2024 - The Bog Witch
September 9th 2025 - Call to Arms

So 6, 9, 8, 9, 5 and 11 month gaps between individual "big" updates.
Or 22 months beween EA release and Mistlands and 17 months between Mistlands and Ashlands. And so far we are 24 months into Ashalnds --> DN gap. 🙂

I by no means want to say you cant be right, i myself am also betting on this year, but there simply isnt really a "normal update schedule" to speak of 😄

[merry pebble]

#valheim-chat message

[prime moth]

i figure i gotta wait till i find cores anyway so theres no need to rush too fast for the extractors

[indigo socket]

I just had the pleasure of running a bear into an abomination. The bear and I took it down. with bronze gear those things are tough!

[prime moth]

#valheim-chat message

funny the abomination won my last witnessed event like that lol

definitely two hp giants slappin each other with noodles for 5 minutes

dang third time the big man has come to check in on me while hunting viles

[prime moth]

yall were not kidding, this vile set is quite difficult to finish

[visual sparrow]

i reckon the deep north and 1.0 is a lot closer than yall think

[strange cradle]

Some day we will find out, right? 😉

[prime moth]

just gotta pretend nothing is happening and one day be happy

[strange cradle]

Exactly. One day the bees will be happy.

[indigo socket]

I think abomination would have won but I was not taking chances and was attacking abomination. Bear only had one hit left when abomination was killed.

[strange cradle]

I've watched a lox vs a bear, and it wasn't even a contest. The lox barely had a scratch.

[prime moth]

lox dont care

till the atgir ruins their day

or, soon, hopefully fireballs

[dim python]

onion soup kinda sucks?

60 stamina but only lasts 20 minutes and only 1 hp per tick

[mental wren]

Yeah but it's cheap too make. And is literally just they got the stamina

It's a neat little extra where you got nothing else

But playing unlock so many good foods

[dim python]

it's like it's at the bottom of a bell curve opposite wolf jerky

good stats but no hp and short

whereas wolf jerky stats aren't great but decent hp and long

if i like cheap i guess i should like it...

[frozen void]

You can also make it before getting cauldron upgrade i believe

[dim python]

dat 20 min when everything else last 25 or 30 do be annoyin doe

[cinder drum]

wow i found the worst crypt. 3 dead ends lol not one scrap pile even

[dim python]

[frozen void]

A few swamp foods last 20 minutes as well

[dim python]

yes but i've moved beyond black soup and never needed cooked fish

onion soup seems like the only 20 min mountain tier food 😕

i guess that's it.

catch me eating 2 feasts 🤙

[frozen void]

Its a swamp tier food disguised as mountain tier

[dim python]

very true

[sleek sky]

Mountain food eternally pisses me off

Random 1 hp tick on multiple things

[unique helm]

Holy crap the development on this game is moving slower than snails pace....

[gritty mortar]

I’m looking for a mod that makes bows hitscan rather than having the massive drop off. Also, any mod to increase pickup range? Thanks

[frozen void]

#mods-discussion

[light moat]

It’s certainly not especially quick, but it’s worth the wait

[prime moth]

finally found one of the cute dockside dverger houses.... had to kill em - sap extractor obtained!

i really wanna build here though, it's cozy as hell

[unique helm]

Is it though? Its been like 2 years since a meaningful content update.

[dim python]

they pushed call to arms early
-# ☺️

it was gonna be part of deep north

[storm plaza]

so what? What are you missing? it's basically a complete game as it sits. they are simply releasing DLC's at this point.

If you want more, and aren't having fun, put it down for a while. There's so many games out there right now, come back in 1-2 years and enjoy new content.

[unique helm]

The game is not finished. There is no definitive end with an entirely incomplete biome in the game.

[dim python]

idk if they're releasing dlcs but i'm excited to play Grounded after beating valheim

[storm plaza]

Sorry not sorry, but this is just a shit-take.
Like, it's labelled early access. Always has been. I'd rather they take their time and give me content to come back to when they do release. I'll never understand why people get uppity about development times.

[unique helm]

Is it a complete game or early access? Make up your mind

[storm plaza]

Reading comprehension is difficult for you, i understand your confusion now.

[unique helm]

"so what? What are you missing? it's basically a complete game as it sits." followed by "Like, it's labelled early access."

[storm plaza]

I said basically a complete game, because it is... basically. You're simply waiting for new content. Everything in the game is functional and working, there just no stuff in a biome that you don't really need to worry about until it is release.
yusomad?

[storm plaza]

you're sooooo close to understanding what "basically a complete game" means. You'll get it. I have faith in you.

anyways, you're boring and entitled. bye bye

[unique helm]

Theres no reason it should take 2 years to develop 1 biome.

I actually see mod developers put out more meaningful content in less time than that.

[gritty mortar]

My b

[final bloom]

Are you a dev?

[unique helm]

No. And please dont try to make an appeal to to authority argument. It's ignorant and lazy.

[final bloom]

Okay just wanted to check context. What’s an authority argument?

[unique helm]

An appeal to authority (argumentum ad verecundiam) is a fallacy claiming a statement is true solely because an authority figure said it, rather than based on evidence. It becomes a fallacy when the expert lacks proper qualifications, the field is irrelevant, or there is no expert consensus.

Basically you think I can't have a correct opinion because I'm not a game dev.

[merry pebble]

Nice of you to post the definition by which your original statement is a fallacy 😄

[unique helm]

Where did I make a claim to authority?

Ah, I am mistaken. Appeal to authority doesn't fit this situation.

It's actually just an ad hominem attack.

[final bloom]

Whoa attack, ok this is ramping up and I was merely curious. I’m now stepping out of this, nice to briefly speak with you Ace.

[unique helm]

Attack doesn't necessitate violence. It's just an attempt to discredit me because I'm not a game developer therefore cant have an opinion on the development of a game.

[silk token]

hang on i forgot my logical fallacy flashcards!

[static lake]

anyone knows a way to check out the names of portals, which are inactive on a specific world? getting back to an old save of mine and simply forgot what they were called, yet i know they exist in specific parts

[dim python]

if you click on them it displays their tag

good luck getting around tho

[prime moth]

always make signs for the names of important portals

i usually have a wall of forgetfulness

sometimes I’ll put signs in the middle of everything to remind me of what my main task is

[static lake]

i lowkey just rawdogged it and kept a list of them in my head, in retrospect not a good idea ;p

[silk token]

i feel this. my trick back when i used portals and maps is make a little map legend in the corner of the world with the dot markers and name them names of portals

i just played on a world like not that long ago and i forget all of them lol. luckily theyre only ashlands portals and i could just run to them.

[foggy glacier]

do you not name them when you put the map points down?

[silk token]

i call it my “to-do list” lol whenever i log out

[silk token]

depends on the world i guess. several worlds have only ashlands portals and no map because i allow myself portals for ashlands only but still no map

[foggy glacier]

ah ok. makes sense for nomap worlds. Signs are it then, or having a portal hub and keeping them linked.

[cerulean star]

I have a world with 3 friends and we agreed to use the "house" map icon with the text being the portal name on the map. So we can all look them up whenever we need to. We also tend to follow a pattern of "biome #" such as "BF 1", "BF 2", "Ash 1", etc.

[prime moth]

almost back to base with 2 extractors i think

🙏

we did it! man mapless is so funny. i recognized the 3 stone pillars in my nearby plains 😂

[silk token]

yup lol, i remember shapes of mountain ranges too

[prime moth]

i got super lost cause i thought what i saw was something i walking around before

small patch of plains before mistland with a mountain behind it and one stone pillar

i didnt think i was that far so i assumed it was my island

it wasnt but the help of looking to the skies got me back

now for the actually hard part of finding the black cores 😭

[plucky hinge]

I'm just barely into bronze and finally got my ship built. The new ship feels fast, but slow to turn. -_-

[foggy glacier]

which ship, the Karve?

[plucky hinge]

That's the one.

[foggy glacier]

Funny, it's amazingly maneuverable, especially under sail.

[dull warren]

lol I couldn't figure out where all this flax and barley came from

...I tripled the drop rate because I was sick of clearing out crypts for iron for a while

sets it back

[plucky hinge]

Trying my hand at taming boars.

[prime moth]

gl

1800 hrs and i still havent tried taming lol

[prime moth]

I am somewhat surprised I havent found a bug den yet

I guess mistlands are going to take a loooong time anyway though

[last otter]

They have dens..?

[prime moth]

idk what they’re actually called

[last otter]

I haven’t truly played ValHeim yet. Have I?

[prime moth]

crypt -> water crypt -> ice cave -> villages -> bug dens -> morgen den/forts

[lunar sapphire]

Oh now I'm caught up

you mean Infested Mines

[last otter]

I don’t know what a water crypt, bug den, or morgen den is.

Either I never really explored, or I’m confused on what they actually are.

[lunar sapphire]

Burial Chambers, Sunken Crypt, Frost Cave, Infested Mine, Putrid Hole

and Fuling Villages. Although they're not classed as a "dungeon" but rather a PoI

[last otter]

Putrid Hole sounds familiar, I don’t know about infested mines. What biome are they in?

[lunar sapphire]

IM's are mistlands

[last otter]

With the giant stairs?

[granite grail]

Mistlands. You would have needed black cores from them to progress

[granite grail]

Potentially, yes

[lunar sapphire]

If you're thinking giant stairs it sounds like you're referencing the queen's citadel

[last otter]

Oh, right.

[lunar sapphire]

oh nvm, there is that type of IM - I forgot

[last otter]

Oh, right.

[granite grail]

Indeed it is lol

[lunar sapphire]

3 Jagged rocks and stairs leading up to the entrance

or you can have a circular structure with stairs leading down in a spiral formation to the entrance

[last otter]

I remember those.

They didn’t lead anywhere.

[granite grail]

some do, some don't

[last otter]

Okay.

I haven’t played in over a year, lol. You guys are fighting a lost cause on ValHeim knowledge I guess, lol.

[prime moth]

you're all good lol- my local terms for places in game is not exactly universal

[lunar sapphire]

Keep in mind, Infested Mine enemies will respawn every 4 hours. As will the "food source"

[granite grail]

Figured this out myself tryna just collect some royal jelly 😂

Nice that the other dungeons don't as far as I know

but it makes sense bc there are eggs you can't destroy

[lunar sapphire]

hmm? I've been able to destroy all the eggs I come across? unless you mean the ceiling ones

in which case use ranged weapons

[granite grail]

Huh, there are usually like 1-2 eggs on the ground that my sword could never damage when I sliced through the rest of the pile

[lunar sapphire]

Axes or spears/bows will help. Basically with ranged attack or a "Downwards attack" style

[analog hearth]

food source?

[lunar sapphire]

||Royal Jelly||

[analog hearth]

ah

damn I thought they will be spawn-free after a clearing

that being said in my last run we had soooooooo many seeker meat and caparace

while hare meat is nowhere to be found cough cough

[mental pasture]

yo so funny question, disclaimer idk all the lore but just a funny theory. Are the regular animals you find in the meadows also in valheim/viking purgatory with you? Like if the induvidual animals did something so bad in midgard they had to be imported to valheim by the gods? They explode into purple particle effects when they die, thats not what living animals do in midgard when they die lol, if its true that valheim is for beings seeking valhalla including the animals, what in the ashlands(hell) do the deer have to do to be worthy? Are all the boars we’ve hunted sinners from midgard??? lmao

A Lox in its past life stole ONE CLOUDBERRY and went to yagluth’s fallen kingdom as punishment lmfao

[chrome badge]

Valheim isn't purgatory, there are native species, as well as influence from other realms.

[tribal trench]

If you don't mind spoilers then there is a lore youtube video thats done very well by Embr and it explains much.

[lunar sapphire]

Somehow I didn't pay much interest to the lore of Valheim until watching that video just now.

ofc I knew a fair bit already but the video helps

[mental pasture]

just watched that now, yea it explains that most of the creatures in valheim (midgard animals, trolls, humanoids) made it to valheim through secret routes n stuff over time, but it mostly explains the ashlands lore really

[frozen void]

checked it out, whiplash from how "fader" is pronounced

[tribal trench]

Cool I'm happy it sparked your interest a bit

[tribal trench]

True

[lunar sapphire]

Say "Vader" for me 😄

For anyone interested:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aN5Dzv4EKAo

[frozen void]

she's saying fae-der, should be more like fah-der

[mental pasture]

cant wait for when we finally beat the winter child and the player immediately goes into a raid event that brings jomugander to your base

[lunar sapphire]

Nobody asks about the Summer Child 😢

[granite grail]

still haven't found any of these winter child runestones. Only a couple Ashlands ones so far

[analog hearth]

wait I pronounce it as fae-duh 😭

[tacit crystal]

Pronunciation for "Fader" is similar to "father", it literally translates to that from Swedish.

[analog hearth]

ohhhh

wait a minute....

[strange cradle]

Moder = Mother, Fader = Father.

And Guten Morgen, Gjall. 👋

[analog hearth]

are the two bosses married or sth

[strange cradle]

Well, probably not in OUR sense.

[tall tundra]

and we'll see the result

[analog hearth]

😰

[strange cradle]

The "a" in Fader is really more pronounced like the German "a", rather than the English "a", which is more like "ä". Or, of course, the Swedish "a", which it actually is. 😄

[lunar sapphire]

A is like "uh..."

[strange cradle]

I don't know about this...

[lunar sapphire]

I'm just putting it in pronounciation terms 😄

cos saying A is like A in text doesn't help a whole lot

[strange cradle]

"Uh" is... not like the German "A". Maybe like the Swedish? I don't know.

[paper marsh]

I’m from Denmark and know how to say Fader, but I still default to the more English version of it. Same for moder

[strange cradle]

Really? It just sounds so off to me... Moudör Fädör. Ok, that is an exaggeration. 😄

[lunar sapphire]

what exactly is the iron equivalent of the early axes weapon?

trying to keep to axes as much as possible. Consulting the wiki hasn't helped me decide

[frozen void]

there's both a one and two hand axe

[lunar sapphire]

Iron axe and battleaxe ye?

[frozen void]

i think a shield and axe is closer to double axes than a big axe is

yeah

[tacit crystal]

Battleaxe is more suited for combat IMO.

[lunar sapphire]

hmm. So Iron axe + iron buckler - sounds like a plan
now Joel has thrown me off 😄

I've always done bows/sword playthroughs hence my questions

[frozen void]

battle axe is very fun

[paper marsh]

One handed axes are kinda meh imo

I prefer 2 handed ones

[strange cradle]

I never got into them.

[lunar sapphire]

The only thing about the battle axe which I could assume when using is you have to learn how/when it attacks and how other enemies attacks affect the player

[frozen void]

special attack stun lock invidual enemies is so funny

[strange cradle]

The battle axe is just way too slow for me, and I'm already slow. So adding two slows is one dead viking.

[paper marsh]

Yeah gotta space well with the axe due to low movement speed and long windup

But the stab for staggering bigger enemies is very nice too

I do prefer fist weapons for my stagger needs though. More flexible

[lunar sapphire]

Hmm, no harm in trying the battleaxe first. If I don't like it I can just obtain more iron

[frozen void]

never enough iron anyway

and if youve never tried battle axe then that's a good time to do so

[strange cradle]

Atgeir is more my thing, since it can stun and is fast.

Stamina requirements are huge, though.

[lunar sapphire]

oh and that, I've done a few atgeir playthroughs before

[tacit crystal]

First swing windup in battleaxes is slower, which might take some use for it.

[paper marsh]

Atgeir is probably the best stagger weapon, just not for me because it doesn’t really leave anything up to skill, and then it just gets unengaging to me

[strange cradle]

Stamina management.

VERY necessary with Atgeir, if you're on HHS, or even HFF.

[lunar sapphire]

At some point I'll try magic but I don't think that's this playthrough

[tacit crystal]

Primary attacks of battleaxes have quite wide arc with 1,5x stagger multiplier and no mtp, so it's very well suited against groups of enemies. Secondary is swift and also has higher stagger (4x but effectively 2x due to half damage it deals) plus high knockback, which helps with crowd control.

[lunar sapphire]

No harm in keeping early axes on the player as well with a battleaxe

[paper marsh]

When I played atgeir on HHS I didn’t find stamina management to be very important. Just wait a moment between each spin, and walk away from the enemy if you really do need another couple seconds of regen

[tacit crystal]

I kept Early axes quite long in my latest playthrough.

[lunar sapphire]

I know either you or larsi said until mistlands or so

but just trying options

I'm still likely to make maces again for bonemass

[tacit crystal]

I hunted hares with them, it was quite nice.

[lunar sapphire]

Now what I don't understand is knife playthroughs 😄

[tacit crystal]

Knives are very nice, what do you mean.

[paper marsh]

Knives are nice. Probably fall off in Ashlands though

And mountains, though you can get some cinematic drake kills with knife secondary

[lunar sapphire]

It is done

early axes against wolves 👀 probably my new favourite way to handle wolves

[paper marsh]

Lately I’ve been going for knife/spear/fists/sword/axe/crossbow/magic runs and it’s a lot of fun not locking myself into just one category but swapping between them

Considering throwing maces in there but ugh just can’t get myself to use them

[lunar sapphire]

Interesting, consulting the wiki it seems clubs/maces don't get a blackmetal variant

plains to ashlands

[paper marsh]

Porcupine

[strange cradle]

I use maces only for Bonemass and Golems.

[paper marsh]

And arguably demolisher

[lunar sapphire]

I like swords with golems ❤️

[paper marsh]

Abd then flametal mace

[strange cradle]

Works too with the silver sword.

[lunar sapphire]

defeated heaps with mistwalker or such last playthrough

[strange cradle]

Well, Mistwalker is OP anyway. 😄

I still argue that you don't need another sword in Ashlands. A lvl 4 Mistwalker will see you through including Fader.

[lunar sapphire]

I really want Ashlands weapons rn but alas... Not defeated bonemass on this playthrough yet

[strange cradle]

lol

Ashlands weapons in mountains are soooo overkill. 😄

[lunar sapphire]

battleaxe secondary attack may be a superior tree cutting tool

super speedy

log troll spotted

[strange cradle]

Kill him. You know you want to.

[frozen void]

good thing you got a good tree cutting tool

[jagged wind]

there is mace in plains

only mistlands dont have one

[strange cradle]

log trolls are one of my most feared enemies.

They have this ginormous reach with their... entire tree they're carrying.

[lunar sapphire]

Defeated. Wasn't able to stagger it but still

relatively quick

[strange cradle]

Nice!

[sleek sky]

Log trolls? More like chop downthe forest trolls

They are my best buddies for mining copper and gettingcorewood

[lunar sapphire]

early axes when encumbered are the superior option to getting around 😄

[jagged wind]

i just parry the first attack of troll with battleaxe and then spam primary combo and it keeps him staggered

[lunar sapphire]

😮

I forgot about parrying it 😄

I just roll for each attack

[strange cradle]

Can't do that... 😛

[jagged wind]

if u r on normal difficulty its ez pz

[strange cradle]

If you time it right... 😛

Parrying and dodge-rolling are not my friends.

[lunar sapphire]

eh, I've got most mob timing down at this point

[jagged wind]

gotta practice.. i sucked at parrying too first

[strange cradle]

I'm too slow.

[sleek sky]

I still cant parry fist stone golems for shit

[strange cradle]

Yup.

Spike golems are okayish for me.

[lunar sapphire]

and hello tier 2 battle axe

I got really good at parrying stone golems

[jagged wind]

i couldnt too, but now i just can 😎

[strange cradle]

My reactions are just too slow nowadays.

reflexes I mean.

[lunar sapphire]

I guess I should focus on armor next 😄 - still rocking tier 3 bear armor

[sleek sky]

Bear armor is thr goat

[lunar sapphire]

it's actually the bear

[strange cradle]

I need something heavy between me and my foe.

Because I know I'll get hit.

[sleek sky]

Actually, its the tatoos, loincloth, and the bear

[lunar sapphire]

ooh, the first initial attack of the battle axe is horizontal meaning it doesn't break the build pieces I have for my draugr farm

[strange cradle]

You know, when I picture a battle axe user, I picture a berserker wearing heavy armor legs and nothing but tatoos on the upper body.

Maybe a horned helmet with that.

I need to try this. 😄

[lunar sapphire]

ooh, bee armor!

brb, suggesting that

Ok, after killing some farmed draugr I like the battle axe

"You're coming home with me"

[tacit crystal]

"Your entrails make into fine sausages."

[lunar sapphire]

ooh speaking of, I can finally make sausages now ❤️

[tribal trench]

Just made the skull splitter and it's pretty good!!

[lunar sapphire]

upgraded the cauldron earlier today

boar farm will come in handy

[jagged wind]

bear armor is just better than troll armor if u combine it with bronze helmet

[jagged wind]

yea its super fun

[tacit crystal]

I'll let you know that I just tested and defeated Bonemass with Early axes quite nicely.

[lunar sapphire]

😮

[jagged wind]

especially when u return with crystal battleaxe to Swamp for some more of iron... the spirit dmg is sweet

[lunar sapphire]

next step is to upgrade my workbench for hopefully t4 early axes

[jagged wind]

kinda sad it has no elemental dmg though

like mistwalker or the atgeir

[paper marsh]

Crystal battleaxe always felt odd to me. Really gonna give a stagger weapon non-stagger damage

[lunar sapphire]

Probably in exchange for the spirit?

and the wki says it makes you slightly more discoverable when sneaking cause of the light it emits

[tribal trench]

ya true

[jagged wind]

well but the spirit dmg is extra dmg.. it has still bigger slash dmg than the iron one.. so bigger stagger too

[jagged wind]

wisp also makes u bad at sneaking too found out xd

[lunar sapphire]

Player:
-# Sneaks

Wisp: "HE'S BELOW ME!!!"

[jagged wind]

id love me some lightning or frost dmg... or even poison like the 1h axe

[lunar sapphire]

followed by the "hey! listen!

[brittle flower]

isnt bear armor better even without bronze helmet

and the berserk buff is insanely good

[jagged wind]

frost or lightning on skull splitter would make it amazing for ashlands ngl

[jagged wind]

yeah, but i meant it armor wise

[brittle flower]

it has more armor points than troll armor

[jagged wind]

and bear trophy is annoying to get so i just usually skip it

[brittle flower]

that blueberry paint is great at deflecting enemy blows lol

[brittle flower]

true

[jagged wind]

but u take more dmg anyway with full set

[lunar sapphire]

One birch tree felled. 4 seeds ❤️

that is the best result

[tacit crystal]

No poison unless it stacks like fire/spirit and/or it's added similarly as spirit damage to some weapons.

[jagged wind]

hmm

i wonder if crystal battleaxe is not even better for ashlands

gotta do the math

[tacit crystal]

It deals a hair little better damage than Skull Splittur against charred and valkyries due to their weakness to spirit.

[tribal trench]

I'm using one on a different save and it's good but have not tried to split bug skulls with it yet

[jagged wind]

cant even load the data from wiki on my phone

but i suppose spirit dmg is 1.5x and slash 0.5x against charred skellies?

[tacit crystal]

They don't resist slash.

[jagged wind]

oh

[tacit crystal]

Crystal battleaxe: 90 slash 30 spirit at quality 1.
Skull Splittur: 130 slash at quality 1.

Against charred and valkyries CBA deals 90 slash 45 spirit.

[jagged wind]

so crystal one does 153 at lvl 4

and splittur 148, but also higher stagger

[tacit crystal]

But also against Morgen, which resists slash, CBA would deal 45 slash 30 spirit and Splittur 65 slash (both at quality 1).

[jagged wind]

yeah... quite the issue.. so i need to carry both of them in the end 😅

until i get berserkir ones i guess

[tacit crystal]

CBA is viable option like other silver weapons too, but Splittur has much higher stagger.

[lunar sapphire]

Swamp geared player sailing to mistlands ❤️

what adventures await!

[jagged wind]

lot of misty adventures

[brittle flower]

oh look a puffy cloud looking thingy it looks friendly

[merry pebble]

You will train your ears a bit

[jagged wind]

petition to make gjalls rideable like ghasts in mc

[lunar sapphire]

#screenshots message 😄

[brittle flower]

happy gjall 😂

[merry pebble]

Well, you can stand on them now

[jagged wind]

that cant be called land even

nor mist

[lunar sapphire]

the mistlands terrain keeps making me think there's giant abominations waiting to "spawn" in

case in point

[merry pebble]

[tribal trench]

This new world seed I have been playing for the past few months has sooooo many good rivers for fishing interlocked by large ass islands

I just love to Valheim fish I suppose... heh

[frozen void]

does anyone know if the forsaken can be immobilized by like the jade weapons?

[tacit crystal]

They can.

[frozen void]

hmm, wondering which nidhogg to make against fader

[nocturne wolf]

you could use a second weapon to immobilise him then use iolite for damage

[frozen void]

imma try with just thundering first i think

[granite grail]

which crystals are which? I have green and red but they don't come with names(?)

[frozen void]

bloodstone(red), iolite(blue), jade(green)

[jagged wind]

blue is the best

[granite grail]

thank youu

[final bloom]

I really enjoy my jade crossbow that tangles enemies.

Had many a clutch bring down of valkyries through ensnaring them just long enough to get some good hits in.

[tacit crystal]

Klossen and Primal axes are incredible.

[frozen void]

not even close (2 durability left after finishing off the last 2 summoned charred)

[muted mason]

Can players from other countries play together?

[frozen void]

yeah

longer distance might end up having poor connections and lagging if playing togethe tho

[muted mason]

thanks

[frail shore]

hello guys'

i am still doing the second boss i need to get prepared

😄

[tacit crystal]

It's very good idea.

[steel mica]

You yearn for the MINES

that bronze aint gonna make itself

[lunar sapphire]

um actually there's no bronze in the infested mines

nor any ore for that matter. Perhaps some items can drop ore if broken

[steel mica]

I would not spoil that👀

[lunar sapphire]

what's to spoil?

[steel mica]

the m i n e s

also meant to say the lights drop some

[jagged wind]

kinda sad mallets cant be used as a main weapon.. would be nice if they would have some swing (combo) attack to do more damage to a single target

[tacit crystal]

Honestly, I would probably utilise them more if they did have primary attack combo.
Higher damage and slow attacks like battleaxe animation? While battleaxes could get slightly faster attacks.
-# Coindicentally I have suggested something like that earlier. #suggestions message

[jagged wind]

u have my axe.. i mean upvote

[lunar sapphire]

hehe, just incidentally found the bog witch

[analog hearth]

what happens when multiple players activate different forsaken powers
I never notice, feel like I should have... Do we all get different buffs

[wild raven]

anybody know - we get some...u know...armor slots in future?

[jagged wind]

id give anything to have some extra slots in Inventory ngl 😅

[tacit crystal]

There have been some talks of how they could be implemented if they will be, but no guarantees.

[jagged wind]

definitely dont like the bag mod.. looks silly imo

[tacit crystal]

All players get all the buffs when activated close to each other.

[jagged wind]

like some modern scout and not a fantasy viking

[wild raven]

agreed, personaly i just dont wanna install some mod for valheim for just armor slots or backpacks or something - coz that thing need to be in game wen its out in steam, idk

[rotund dust]

100% i dont see how armor equipped takes up inventory space 😂

[dim python]

stamina management is even more important with yaxes

[wild raven]

i literaly go in valheim for take some pic for u, but i cant send it. but its like 6 slots in inventory for our stuff, like artefact, cape, headgear, body, legs, and dont forget about belt...instead of my full slots i can bring more, idk, resources for exmpl from raid. on 6 slots more that i can do now.

its not a big problem ofc, but anoing a little.

[dim python]

what are you gonna do with the seeds?

[lunar sapphire]

Plant them

[smoky quarry]

i plan to have only oaks on me island

will only take me a century to collect the seeds

[strange cradle]

Soooo... I tried the BM battle axe, padded armor, HFF (lox pie, plains feast, mountains feast - an insanely good combo) in an infested mine in the Mistlands.

Let's put it that way... I did not die. But I needed the BM sword/shield combo to see me through against a soldier. The battle axe is actually pretty good against multiple opponents, but the long wind up makes it currently unusable to me against hard hitting tough opponents like the soldier.

I had some memorable moments fighting a horde of fuling (and almost died there), but I somehow got through.

I'm no believer, in no shape or form, but I can see the utility of the battle axe, even though it will probably be not for me.

#screenshots message
Me, imagining the true battle axe berserker.

[dim python]

at least you tried 🫂

battleaxe is a genuinely difficult weapon to use

[strange cradle]

It is. You have to time that long winded wind up really well to be most effective with it. During which you are completely vulnerable.

[dim python]

if you want to try more weapons might i recommend iron sledge/demolisher/stagbreaker

very simple and helpful

[strange cradle]

Yeah... never went that way. I might give it a go.

I just need my weapon to be very fast. Because I'm so old and slow. 😄

[tacit crystal]

Knives and spears are fast.

[strange cradle]

Yup, love knives, hate spears.

[dim python]

sledges aren't fast but they're much easier to use and if you're doing it in the right situation you won't need to use them that long anyway

not worth maining but helpful to have in your pocket

just don't use them near your house 🤭

[strange cradle]

Yeah, I never needed them in crypts, and beyond that, in mines, but I might give it a try.

Oh, I know. 😄

[dim python]

crypts are tricky cuz sledges only aoe and that aoe can damage already fragile chests

[silk token]

you’re right, a different weapon is way better for seeker soldiers. i always have a spear with me

[strange cradle]

I never got the love for spears. Really.

[dim python]

i havent tried sledges in crypts yet

[strange cradle]

I WANT to love them, but it never clicked.

[dim python]

i've stuck to sword and mace

[strange cradle]

Why would you voluntarily WANT to lose your main weapon?

[dim python]

stagbreaker was fun in burials tho

[raw folio]

Once you get the throws down its amazing

[strange cradle]

And then lose it when you need it most.

[silk token]

you 100% need to learn to jump and swing if you want to use battleaxe in sticky situations, jump away from the charging horde then swing is sometimes all you can do

[dim python]

why throw when you can bow

[silk token]

dont lose it. its not only to throw long distances, or to throw even

[dim python]

i recommend trying them next playthrough, they grow nicely and i can't speak for how useful they are late game

[raw folio]

Notwithstanding historical pause- I've never heard of anyone stabbing a charging opponent with a bow 😂

[strange cradle]

Atgeir, baby, atgeir.

[raw folio]

Its nice to have options

[strange cradle]

Much better reach than spear.

And you can't LOSE it!

[dim python]

i just realized