valheim-chat

[flat stag]

longship, harpoon or make long bridge?

[nocturne wolf]

how much water? you could aggro it and have it swim across

[flat stag]

enough water to drown while swimming

like irl 200 meters

Actually more like 400m

[paper marsh]

Sounds like more than plenty to me. Building an array of bronze weapons and tools and armor and such is a waste imo

[thorny lake]

bridge is most work but prob most secure

[idle storm]

i usually build the pickaxe and axe and skip the rest. Maybe the atgeir if i'm doing a polearm playthrough but the rest isn't really worth it.

[paper marsh]

I'll skip the pickaxe (feels like it takes more time to craft it than it saves) and just use the bronze axe as my weapon. Nowadays I'll probably use bear paws or early axes as my weapon

Can also skip bronze buckler nowadays, bear fists do great

[haughty geode]

Heh? People been telling to get better gear for elder

[paper marsh]

I mean a lot of this information is more for experienced players if I'm being honest. When new just explore and figure things out

But black forest has a lot of good gear that's not made out of bronze

[idle storm]

A fully upgraded bronze pickaxe lasts an entire crypt run where the antler pickaxe needs 2-3 repair runs. I build it just for that QoL aspect

[rotund parrot]

Only reason I make the bronze pick from time to time is so I get more chitin from the first leviathans and can get the knife and upgrade it to level 3 with less of them

[paper marsh]

damn you fully upgrade it too?

I bring two antler pickaxes to mine a crypt, then make an iron pick

[idle storm]

the higher pickaxe damage means you pop muddy scrap bits in one hit instead of two

it's a massive time saver

[paper marsh]

I mean maybe if it's for like 10 crypts

But I only need 1 crypt to get iron pick

Also could use Elder power, I keep forgetting that exists

It is interesting how people value different playstyles though. I like that Valheim gives you multiple options

[idle storm]

well yeah assuming you want nothing else from the iron gear. If you're just skipping through to the mountains by all means, stick with the antler pickaxe for a crypt or two.
But with a fully upgraded bronze pick i can push back the iron one until i want to go to the mountains so i can spend those 80 iron on other stuff like forge upgrades, shield and a weapon first

[flat stag]

if a pig falls off a ship, can't i just harpoon it when it's in the water and drag it to shore?

[paper marsh]

Well I do like 5-6 crypts. I just make the iron pickaxe after crypt 1 because it gives the benefits you're speaking of, but feels much faster to make than mining bronze and you'll need it later anyways

[rotund parrot]

The 2 iron upgrade to the forge are kind of weird since you don't even need both of them until you need to upgrade the plain gear and just need 1 to fully upgrade the mountain gear

[idle storm]

with a troll mining copper isn't that hard imo. And with BF tier food and a bone tower shield they're basically 0 risk.
Probably wouldn't do it by hand either 😅

[paper marsh]

That's fair

I tend to like getting some pickaxe levels early

[idle storm]

i build a lot so i farm a lot of iron. I get my pickaxe levels one way or another 😂

currently at 86 in my current playthrough, halfway through the ashlands

[thorny lake]

idk, never tried it. Only one way to figure out eh?

[upper crow]

hi everyone

[paper marsh]

Hi individual person

[tough reef]

If i'm running tower shield to try to be the tank of my group, would it be better to eat all hp foods and use a stam trinket? Currently in swamps

[paper marsh]

Iron brooch (hp/armor trinket found in swamp) is pretty good, so I'd go for that one when you can

triple hp doesn't sound terrible, I think it's preference between that and 2 hp 1 stamina.

At some point in swamp you'll unlock ||feasts which give you good foods that are half stamina half health. 2 hp foods and a feast would probably be ideal||

[tacit crystal]

HHF would be solid idea too for that purpose.

[tough reef]

I actually was just looking at feasts too, yeah. That sounds like a good plan. We just discovered the witch in our world too.

[nocturne wolf]

A buckler will allow you tank more damage and not spend stamina

[tough reef]

As far as trinkets go, so the iron brooch you think would be more beneficial than the stam options?

[nocturne wolf]

the increased armor from that brooch will be very valuable to you

[tough reef]

True. I know parrying is generally the optimal route. Just chose to go with towers for this world with my group

[paper marsh]

Trinkets can be tough to trigger often though, at least depending on your weapon. So I think trinket choice isn't the biggest deal in the world

[tough reef]

My idea is to block as much as I can and use mace secondary attack here and there for the adrenaline buildup

[green reef]

looks like there are feasts for each biome?

oh but you need the food prep table to make them. strange

[paper marsh]

And you also need to find bogwitch first

[green reef]

I felt like feasts were some kind of social food for the multiplayer aspect of the game.

Why would you ever make and eat Whole Roasted Meadow Boar if you already have iron and are able to make T3 foods?

oh they are identical

[paper marsh]

yeah. Black forest / meadows /swamp feast is the same values, ig because you unlock them all in swamp

But feasts are pretty good imo. I like the choice of being able to go for a 0.5 stamina 0.5 health food

My favored combo is HHF

[tough reef]

i wouldn guess it's a good way to use up stored meadows meat by the time you unlock feasts

[green reef]

yeah, thats reasonable too, if you went crazy and made a whole bunch of extra cooked deer and boar meat that's just sitting in a chest, now you can use it

[paper marsh]

In swamp you can also amke Sailor's Bounty feast. Sailor's Bounty + Serpent Stew + Cooked Serpent Meat and you're a straight gigachad

[green reef]

I think my normal swamp loadout would be Sausages, Turnip Stew, and Serpent Stew. that'd be 153/99

hmm I guess serpent meat as one health foods would be better, I just usually wouldn't give it up since I want it for stew. hmm

[paper marsh]

Yeah it's only if you wanna be really chunky, buffing yourself with a mistlands tier (stew) and plains tier (meat) food

[green reef]

once you get a bit of a rhythm with serpents should be easy enough, I think they are just scarier in the karve and when you are making trips with metals.

oh not going to make sailor's bounty much with 5 cooked fish in it, maybe if I wanted to go out of my way to make it.

50 minute length + 10 uses is pretty solid though

[rotund parrot]

If i find both those trader I always end up making at least 5 of those feast, I just fish for like 30 minutes, mostly trollfish, use some for troll endurance and the rest to make the feast and it last me whole playthrough

[paper marsh]

I like making the mountain feast

[burnt glen]

I just realized.. early access and early axes lol

[paper marsh]

Also the mistlands/ashlands feast looks pretty nice to me. Giving you eitr in addition to the hp and stamina

[tough reef]

Is perfect blocking just a synonym for parrying? Like, I get that tower shield can't parry, but can you still perfect block for the purposes of stam use and building more adrenaline?

[paper marsh]

Perfect block = Parry

You either block or you parry. Nothing else

[idle storm]

The feasts from plains on have very high stat totals compared to other food of their tier.
The plains feast is on par with mistland tier foods like meat platter and HGC in terms of stat totals and the mistland and ashlands feasts are even better because they basically get the eitr "free" on top of hp/stam comparable to other ashlands-tier food

also with both you can use the bubble staff and sacrifice very little in terms of hp & stamina for it

[near furnace]

@viral shell english only please

[daring cipher]

How long is dodge immunity? And more importantly why do I still struggle with it 1.5k hours played? At 60 fps it seems to start on the 10th frame after input. At frames 1-9th and 36th troll swing can hit me - seems the window is 400ms which seems generous, I've found that other games have smaller iframe windows. I've tried to play Hardcore and it's the 6th time I'm hunting deer for more leather armor...
I've tried a GO/NO GO test and my median reaction is 330 ms, while on a simple reaction tests I can usually react in 220 ms, so I don't think it's the reaction time.

[nocturne wolf]

dodge immunity should start on the first frame (when stamina is spent)

im trying to find how long exactly the immunity is now

[daring cipher]

Ok, seems the 9 frames startup time is wrong - I just didn't have enough stamina for the dodge that time. I'm not trying to prove that it's impossible - more curious how to combat my skill issue.

[nocturne wolf]

immunity seems to be 0.56 seconds

i changed the code slightly to run a timer between the points when it starts and stops

[daring cipher]

Thank you so much.

That checks out - I got hit on frame 36, which is 576ms

[nocturne wolf]

so close to a perfect dodge

the timer is actually 0.5599996 but I thought 0.56 was close enough

[twilit trout]

Looking for some guys that have Valheim on steam that are willing to install the few mods that I have and join me on my world. My friends and I started small villages near spawn and each biome will have a city. Each city leader is responsible for farming resources in their biome to trade with players in other biomes, creating
A working economy. We mainly focus on building and taming the wild land into a living breathing civilization. We’ve done this on Conan for years and we’ve decided to try it on Valheim. @ me if you’re interested. It’s not like a super strict RP server or nothing just like a few rules to make the economy itself work but other than that free range the goal is to chart and explore the entire map, naming landmarks, oceans, straights, coves, mountains, etc. again, only have a handful of mods so shouldn’t be stressful on ur PC. Mods are biome enhancers, horses, boats, etc maybe 10 in total.

[sharp owl]

man last time I played this game bears were smth, that you killed before leather armor. They are absolute Hellspawns now 🤯
They also don't even look just bears anymore.

I don't have their move set down yet, but I'd rather kill a troll... unless those are reworked as well 🙂

[fossil delta]

Bears were pretty easy to figure out. Their "moves" may as well have been called in last week. 😄

[sharp owl]

I simply don't make a dent into those with Flint.

[fossil delta]

Well, they do have 800 HP.

So it takes a long time to kill them with the earlier, weaker, weapons.

[nocturne wolf]

they resist pierce, use an axe if you aren't already

[fossil delta]

Plus use torches, they are terrified by fire.

[nocturne wolf]

if you have a wood shield you can parry them but only the attacks where they raise a single paw. otherwise it's a slam or bite that's too strong

[sharp owl]

do they like actually refrain from attacking?

[fossil delta]

They usually try to run away.

[nocturne wolf]

they'll still attack if you get in front of them

[fossil delta]

Yeah, torches aren't perfect.

But you can also spend a lot of time chasing them, if your goal is to kill them.

[sharp owl]

If you 'd move your base how'd you carry your stuff? I'm only mining copper now, so it's just 5 boxes.

[fossil delta]

I wait until I have portals. That way I only have to move metal.

Whatever the distance is.

Of course you can change world modifiers to allow for metal to go through portals, either while your doing the move, or for the rest of your game.

[sharp owl]

I can remember disliking both sides of the portal (h3h3) so much. If you allow all items through portals then you basicallly carry a free tp with you and otherwise you'd often have to make 2-3 trips around the world to haul enough crap in your cave.

[fossil delta]

Yep. Its definitely a personal decision on how you want the game play to be. Even after 5300 hours of playing, I still prefer to not allow metals, because the challenges of get those metals to the various locations I need them at, especially in biomes like the Mistlands, that add a dimension of challenge I like to have in my games.

[sharp owl]

yeah if it has to be black and white I'd choose the same. BUT there are easily middleground solutions. Idk from the top of my head: maybe gate them by distance, weight transported, cooldown etc etc.

there are probably way cooler ideas out there

[fossil delta]

Probably. Obviously I am pretty happy with what we have. Like I said, over 5300 hours, still standard settings, no mods.

[sharp owl]

phew you seem to be a true enthusiast. you don't even want to use stuff like Quick Stack?

[fossil delta]

Oh, I will eventually use mods, but not until some time after 1.0. I know me, if I were to start now, I'd never be strong enough to go back to pure vanilla. So I just stay pure vanilla.

[sharp owl]

sure, but after 1-2 completions and all the genius ideas out there, I wouldn't see why I personally would stay on Vanilla. Sandbox like games are kept alive for ages by genius modding and there are always so many insanely good ideas the actual devs would never have the time to implement all of 'em.

I also don't like Star Wars Lightsabre crap or Black Ops guns, but I surely won't play without QoL housekeeping stuff anymore.

it's like enjoying sorting our your drawers in real life 😄

[fossil delta]

I get that. Fortunately Valheim just keeps my interest. Normally I would be using mods within the first 100 hours. How the world generates different each time has definitely helped. The fact that I find this game better balanced from the start than any other similar game I have played, has also helped. Usually things are so whack I just can't tolerate it.

[sharp owl]

what do you do on your 1000th world in Vanilla? Not offensively ment, really just outta curiosity.

[fossil delta]

Pretty sure I haven't even done 100 worlds. But each world is changed enough that its still fresh enough to play through yet again. Its not like a static world that is the same all the time.

[sharp owl]

the modding thing is also the part which actually made me play Hytale, while I usually can't bear this super low graphics stuff in such a game.

[fossil delta]

Not that I won't be using Valheim mods that change everything, because they simply look too cool to not use.

One or two will even change it into, effectively, another game entirely.

[gray sand]

Blocking sheet has been updated to include Evasion Mantle stats @odd helm 💛

-# That trinket is far more potent than I gave it credit for.

[fossil delta]

Yes, I have a list already, and I have even joined a Valheim mod dedicated Discord server.

[fossil delta]

I've been eying it. Just it helps with two things I don't do, so have not used it. Made it, but didn't use it.

[gray sand]

Well, I thought it was additive with the +0.5x bonus.
Meaning shields would go from 1.5 -> 2
2h would go 2 -> 2.5
And fists would go 6 -> 6.5

It is not. It multiplies.
So normal shields go 1.5 -> 2.25
2h goes 2 -> 3
And fist weapons go 6 -> 9

[silk token]

awesome. i loved evasion mantle in ashlands last play

[gray sand]

2h getting a 3x parry bonus while Mantle is active is nuts.

[fossil delta]

Huh, well I have to reconsider it, then.

[silk token]

it DOES??? omg im using that way more. it seem like it made 1 star charred into a normal charred, but it sounds like it does even better than that for parrying!

[fossil delta]

The challenge remains even getting it activated.

[gray sand]

#screenshots

[rotund parrot]

I've been using the mantle today in mistlands and enjoying, for exemple without it on very hard I could parry a 1 star seeker soldier but my stagger bar wouldn't have time to go down enough to parry again after 2 quick hits, same for 1 star seekers. But with the mantle I do not need to worry about the stagger bar getting full at all and getting staggered myself which sometimes happened

[gray sand]

Fist Weapons + Mantle can block every non-starred Ashlands attack other than the Valkyrie Spin.

(On normal)

If you're above 60 skill it is possible to block even the spin if you're running HHH.

[silk token]

dang. it did feel like i was parrying things with zerker axes i had no business parrying that explaind it, 170 block armor

[rotund parrot]

It is ugly though!

[gray sand]

Look at how Battleaxes match the block armor of the future biome 2h sword and tell me why I am not supposed to block with them 😉

[silk token]

you CAN parry, you dont HAVE to, especially if just hitting the thing is gonna kill or stagger it

i fully support parrying just ask yourself sometimes “could i have just killed it instead?”

[rotund parrot]

chart confirm my feeling about what I was going to be able to parry or not

[gray sand]

That is the purpose of the chart 😄

[rotund parrot]

I was a bit worried about askvins but it's not even that close

[frail lotus]

someone wants to play?

[gray sand]

#1024264966712340510

[sharp owl]

I'm too stupid to "offer" Eikthyr's Trophy...

[rotund parrot]

Are you trying to offer it to it's summoning altar?

[gray sand]

Are you asking what to offer to summon Eik or how to hang Eik's trophy on the hook back at the stones?

[sharp owl]

I killed the deer and it says "offer at sacrificial stones"

[gray sand]

Take his head back to the stones (where you started the game).

You will have to do this with every boss's head after killing them.

[sharp owl]

that's where I am and I'm trying to use it...

[gray sand]

1. Have it in your inventory?
2. Pressing E while looking directly at the giant hook on the stone for Eikthyr?

[tacit crystal]

Press E on the hook on Eikthyr stone.

[sharp owl]

I mean i played through the content a few times. This was definitely a buggish event. the 300th click finally hung up the trophy.

[pseudo lark]

Have they fixed the inventory system with this game yet ? its been 5 years

[sharp owl]

I play with this Azure-mod. completely customizable.

[gray sand]

When was it ever broken?

[pseudo lark]

no its just shitty, i mean inventory small as hell and food and what you are wearing takes up too much space. its just shitty

[gray sand]

Ah. Then no. The perfectly fine and intentionally limited inventory has not been "fixed."
Partially because it is perfectly fine and intentionally limited.

You will need to mod if you disagree with the devs 🤷‍♂️

[pseudo lark]

and why are the settings for bindings so limited. i wanna be able to scroll through my weapons

its intetionally painful and shitty I can see that

[gray sand]

We can go back and forth with the "is not, is to" but I would rather not do so.

[shy marlin]

I'm curious, how many extra slots do you desire?

[pseudo lark]

i mean designated slots for armour and food would fix it tbh, i mean at least your armor

[shy marlin]

so 4-7 then

I can get behind that

[gray sand]

The +6 from moving out armor, cape, trinket, equipment is valid and quite possible in 1.0

But if 6 slots breaks the entire system for you, it becomes a question of "What all are you carrying and why?"

Because you already get 3 back if you just.. don't randomly carry food.

[sharp owl]

I don't get it...
just use a mod for that and be happy?

[pseudo lark]

relying on mods to make the game good just feels ehhh

i mean even so

[sharp owl]

that's like a stone age conservative pov

[pseudo lark]

just wondering if they added any way of life to this game

its been 5 years alr

[gray sand]

Game has been great for 5 years and overall gotten better with a few backpedals.

[barren whale]

i think you're meaning quality of life

[shy marlin]

There was a post from a dev a few months back talking about inventory in Valheim, they're considering and looking at it

[pseudo lark]

yeah I did lol

[barren whale]

and to answer your question inventory generally got worse in the last two biomes because they added considerably more crap with no expansion to inventory or storage
i use dump pits now to merge stacks of >100 different items

[rotund parrot]

I really hope they don't add slots and icons for foods and potions that clutter the hud like mods do, it really is awful

[shy marlin]

i'm sure irongate devs can make it look nice

[pseudo lark]

yeah I mean dont get me wrong Iv been playing this game for a longgg time and it just seems they over looked alot of basic things to making the game better but focusing on adding content

everyone loves added content but its still quality of life needs

[gray sand]

Other than "inventory" -- what other QoL things are you saying they missed?

[shy marlin]

hold e to put wood in kiln, hold e for smelter, hold e for windmill etc would be nice imo

[pseudo lark]

the binding settings seems limited

[barren whale]

tbh i'd be down for as many as like 5x10 slots
inventory is boring asf in this game

[lone rampart]

...you CAN hold E to fill the kilns and smelters.

[barren whale]

binding is pretty comprehensive if you use the console bind

[shy marlin]

no way

[barren whale]

its slower than tapping

[shy marlin]

no no like hold to put all 25 in at once

[lone rampart]

Yeah but it's just one button push instead of tap-tap-tap-tap

[shy marlin]

or like shift e

[barren whale]

i use a shift e mod, decent qol improvement yea

[gray sand]

Complete freedom of rebind is one of those things you have to have in mind when you start making the game, because going back to add it later is... not simple.
So they have stated that is going to be very unlikely at this time.

[barren whale]

but where will i get my carpal tunnel

[shy marlin]

from farming

[barren whale]

the only thing that really needs expanded binding options is dodge imo
im used to it but that doesn't mean its not clunky af to have to input two things for a basic move

[rotund parrot]

well, 3 if you want to go in a certain direction

[barren whale]

true but that's fine

[valid fulcrum]

Are screenshots allowed in here?

[gray sand]

#screenshots

[barren whale]

that said bind is already in the game i don't think it even requires devcommands, just console
i'm curious what other actions you'd wanna bind
i just bind dance lmao (and killall/removedrops in freebuild)

[daring cipher]

Thanks this seems to helped me gain some confidence and it feels way less tight than before

[sharp owl]

I 'd bind crap keys like 8 to mouse buttons or QFYC and put my most important consumables there. So in the end I'll only have 1-4 (mb 5) on numbers in most games like these.

[gray sand]

The beauty of having an MMO mouse where 1-12 is just at my thumb on the mouse 🙏

[sharp owl]

hardcoded keybinds are just a horrible idea in general.

[sharp owl]

it absolutely is the simplest thing in the world. Those are nothing but mappings.

[gray sand]

Um.. I would ask how many playercontroller systems you have coded in order to be able to declare "it is the simplest thing" but anyone can claim anything on the internet so.. 🤷‍♂️

[barren whale]

ahhhh i see you want a bigger hotbar
i agree, if i had a key for every inventory slot i'd probably use em all

[barren whale]

lmfao
this isn't even what a player controller system is

[gray sand]

👍

[barren whale]

and yeah its pretty simple to add keybinds
could be more difficult to put together a valheim themed UI for setting them,
but most mods certainly have a dead simple Unity default config option

you could add a really jank macro where it opens inventory and clicks on a particular grid (i've done this for other reasons)
or just make a mod at that point haha

[gray sand]

I am now curious as to what you call the system that contains the code which reads inputs and ties them to the appropriate functions that, in the end, control the player? 🤔

[frigid anvil]

I don’t believe silver actually exists

(/j I have actually gotten some)

[gray sand]

If your Mountain isn't tall enough to have obsidian, it does not have silver 😭

[sharp owl]

it's even the simplest kind of mapping, where you don't have to work with vague generalizations like regular expressions. There are keys on the keyboard, which prompt a clearly defined action.

[frigid anvil]

Yeah I know, I haven’t found a mountain tall enough to have it

[barren whale]

yup lmaooo
i mean you can bind complete console commands (i think even multiple commands?) with just the existing bind system 🤣

[hard sluice]

don't waste time on the smaller mountains, its often silver-less

[gray sand]

I'll run them to find Onion Seeds sometimes, but once I have those I too ignore short mtns.

[frigid anvil]

I found one, that had one vein

[shy marlin]

Yea you can

[frigid anvil]

That doesn’t really help me when I just can’t find any mountains lol

[hard sluice]

i guess you can look for frost caves and vegvisyr stones, it will point you to Moder, which will be on a bnig mountain will silver
(but obviously, finding the frost caves will also be a chalenge)

[barren whale]

you are close but not quite, in default Unity there's a Player Input system that handles things like WASD/camera and that ties to Character Controller which is what handles the corresponding physics in-world.

but hotkeys/binds are just UI, the actions being connected to keystrokes do not have to be associated with a player at all. eg removedrops

[barren whale]

oops response to this

[timber marsh]

I turned up render distance (render mod) and now I can actually see mountains in the distance. Looks much better

I only use mods that don't affect the gameplay

[barren whale]

player inputs/controllers are much more associated with say, managing actions of multiple ingame vikings being controlled by different people over a network

[gray sand]

but hotkeys/binds are just UI, the actions being connected to keystrokes do not have to be associated with a player at all. eg removedrops

Take the second half. Assume you didn't put it in the "UI" and instead coded all of the keybinds into the the aforementioned PlayerInputSystem directly without adding bits to easily allow retargeting of specific actions to other binds.
Is it still super simple? (Genuine ask, because I am an Unreal guy, and if you don't setup the input files in their system with code specifically there to allow rebinding later, it can be an asspain to undo it and make it freely bindable).

-# That being said, setting it up to be rebindable from the get-go in Unreal is super simple.

[barren whale]

no idea tbh, it would depend on irongate's specific implementation
https://docs.unity3d.com/Packages/com.unity.inputsystem@1.0/manual/UISupport.html
can't you rebind primary and secondary, just not dodge for some reason? 🤣

[gray sand]

Can also depend on not only how the inputs themselves are done, but how many different subsystems just point to things that point to that file, making you need to hunt for all those interactions if you want keybinds to be freely changeable 😬

Smiffe specifically said it was not an "easy fix" to make keybinds open. So that is what I am going off of.

And he's usually good about differentiating between things that are truly "not easy" and things that are just "easy, but time-consuming."

[hard sluice]

the issue is that console players can't rebind their keys?

[barren whale]

🤷‍♂️ wait yeah i looked lmfao
keybinds are already freely changeable (for PC at least), every single one except dodge 😭
you can literally make crouch left click and attack backspace

[gray sand]

Moreso that on any platform you don't have full freedom of rebinding.

[barren whale]

its literally just dodge

[gray sand]

Dodge is locked on PC.
I think controller binds are more limited to preset profiles (I could be wrong).

[hard sluice]

i think some systems allow to remap the controller itself?
thats what google ai just told me..

[barren whale]

I think what might be the problem is their keybind system does not like multi-key shortcuts
probably a unity thing, you can only bind to specific keys not like shift+click or space+click
its a non-issue in mods

[gray sand]

Ah. Fair.

[barren whale]

for mod stuff its normal to configure like alt+\ or shift+scroll and that's unity default so irongate might've rolled their own wackass implementation

bc i've never gotten a shift+anything to work with bind

[gray sand]

There are very few games I have ever needed to change the binds for, so 🤷‍♂️

[hard sluice]

its not an issue on pc, but i remapped 'block' hotkey in my 1st valheim session... mid mouse doesnt work at all for me

[frigid anvil]

I’m on xbox, I can’t install mods

[gray sand]

+1 to Console being better than PC 😄

[sharp owl]

you can't really aim the tree's falling direction anymore for easy chain reactions?

[gray sand]

Not unless you dig out a pit and then plant afterwards.

[glacial grotto]

would the bronze sword, spear, or mace be good for killing skeletons in the black forest?

or are they all equally as good?

[shy marlin]

Mace > Sword > Spear

For skeles

Do note that pretty much any of those 3 will get the job tho, so choose which one you enjoy the most

Also another note is sword does not have multi target penalty and the mace does

[glacial grotto]

what does multi target penalty mean?

[shy marlin]

basically if you don't have multi target penalty you face no penalty for hitting multiple things and do full dmg

with mtp you do like -25% dmg when you hit other stuff, idk the exact math but

[merry pebble]

If you want math and exact values you can look here 🙂 https://valheim.fandom.com/wiki/Damage_mechanics#Multitarget_penalty

[glacial grotto]

oh i didnt know there was a wiki what the heck thank you so much!!

[tacit crystal]

Heh, made a new seed which manifested for finding early axes, and managed to find them axe heads during the first day. 🪓

[shy marlin]

i myself am currently confined to chopping literal thousands of core wood trees rn 😭

[tacit crystal]

That was the fastest Eikthyr fight with meadows tier gear ever.
🪓

[shy marlin]

lemme know how fast you can kill bears

also still waiting on my bud to find out what was the shield change we were talkin about yday

[viral shell]

Hello, I am looking for a French player who would like to play with me. I started a week ago.

[tacit crystal]

I take clip once I find my first bear in this world.

[tacit crystal]

You can try finding someone in https://discord.com/channels/391142601740517377/1024264966712340510

[tacit crystal]

#memes-and-clips message Check this.

[shy marlin]

full combo after paw swipe is legendary

that's what i was most curious about

if the timing allowed for it

[tacit crystal]

With higher level and quality it's possible to get it staggered again after parry with full combo.

[shy marlin]

staggerlock

[tacit crystal]

Axes winning. 🪓

[frozen fable]

well talk about harrowing, I got "You are being hunted" just as I killed Moder. I still survived lol

[timber marsh]

i need some wings, uses up stamina fast but gives you extra high jump and glide

more than feather cape

[timber marsh]

ooh i should go hunt for some

[silk token]

dang they can BEARly parry the swipe with good max hp. i feel like you immediately drop them for bear claws or bronze axe and wooden shield i'd take over them. super cool you can get them in meadows but oof that block armor.

[tacit crystal]

I'm going to test them further how they feel through the early game. Little more armor and hp and parrying won't hurt that much.

[silk token]

allfather guide your axes

[mighty gate]

You could axe him a question

[copper karma]

Water Wings are legitimately a good trinket for Mistlands exploration

[fossil delta]

Heading to my hated biome once more. I hope our landing goes well.

[paper marsh]

Mistlands combat too 💯

[narrow spoke]

swamp?

[paper marsh]

Sounds like Ashlands to me

[torpid cradle]

Anyway to tell when the next patch notes are dropping?

[hard sluice]

divination magic maybe

[fossil delta]

Its kind of funny. We landed right at a Fader location.

[torpid cradle]

Fair enough thanks

[honest frigate]

is the atgeir the worst weapon in the game

[shy marlin]

no

[honest frigate]

should i make the ancient spear over the iron atgeir?

[shy marlin]

Which class type do you enjoy more, they’re both good

[vagrant lantern]

Is there a way to turn off the fog when it rains?

[paper marsh]

Best melee weapon in the game, imo

[honest frigate]

i just see no point to pick the weapon with lesser damage you know

[honest frigate]

just cuz of the range?

[paper marsh]

More the stagger and knockback.

The primary is fine, the secondary does large AoE stagger, knockback, and damage. By constantly spinning in a circle you can keep melee enemies from getting in range to hit you, while quickly killing them. Effectively eliminating melee enemies as a threat (except if it's a big boy who doesn't get staggered/knockbacked a lot, but even then a bronze atgeir I think can stagger a troll in one hit)

[honest frigate]

i dont think my pole arms level is high enough but i havent been able to consistently stagger a troll with the bronze atgeir but i've never really used the secondary attack like that especially since in the plains and swamp theres mosquitos lox dragr archers and leeches but i see what you mean

[shy marlin]

Honestly skills on atgeir doesn’t really matter

[barren whale]

big for stam consumption if you're spamming that secondary

but yea the playstyle works fine at 0 skill

[dark coyote]

its snazzy's favorite, he's super good wwith it too

[barren whale]

the secondary does 1x multiplier (like 1st/2nd normals) but in an AOE with no multitarget penalty
BUT
it does 6x stagger damage which is enough to stagger damn near everything

[vagrant crystal]

why am i locked out of all the vc channels?

i've been a good boy

[tacit crystal]

That's something you may ask by sending DM to @dusky pivot

There is usually a reason for those roles.

[sharp owl]

Is the Bearpaw from the base game or from a mod?

well the 2nd part is irrelevant

[nocturne wolf]

It’s not modded it was introduced in Call to Arms

[tacit crystal]

New black forest tier fist weapon.

[sharp owl]

sounds very vague... do you get more berries and what does "dismembering enemies" mean?

[nocturne wolf]

Maybe you have a mod to change what they do

[sharp owl]

it also says 1/50

[nocturne wolf]

In vanilla they’re just fist weapons

[sharp owl]

ye, i got this mod that introduces magic from the start already.

[tacit crystal]

You seemingly have the paw item, which is used for crafting fist weapon called Paws of the Bear.

[sharp owl]

hm, if we could post screenshots

[nocturne wolf]

I forgot those were a separate material from the hide

Why is that anyway, it’s just a waste of a slot

[tacit crystal]

https://discord.com/channels/391142601740517377/1202267437647527977

Or if visible mods shown then https://discord.com/channels/391142601740517377/1202934384643154001

[nocturne wolf]

Yes that’s just a crafting material

[tacit crystal]

Yeah, that's the bear paw drop which is used for crafting bear claw weapon and also for bear armor chest piece.

[sharp owl]

if a food item's fork is red, what does that indicate?

WTF I kept slapping on more and more shelves for chests and suddenly have my base collapsed 😄

Never had this in 200 hrs

btw does furniture or workstations also add into the stability issue?

my guess 'd be no.

[paper marsh]

I'm gonna be honest Grossman, how have you survived 200 hours without understanding these basic mechanics?

But to answer your question:
Red fork = Mostly gives Health
Yellow = Mostly Stamina
Gray = A mix of stamina and hp

[sharp owl]

I fullly understand the mechanic, no idea where your assumption is coming from. It just has never been an issue that adding shelves brought my construct in jeopary.

[paper marsh]

Adding something to your base shouldn't cause the whole base to collapse unless you're playing with mods. It should only cause that one added item to collapse

[sharp owl]

Do half walls shield from exposure like full ones do?

seems like it

[paper marsh]

If you stack two on top of each other, yeah

Exposure just depends on how much of your house is opened up to the outdoors.

I think it sends a certain amount of rays from your character and checks that most of them hit a wall or roof or something similar

[sharp owl]

just half walls fixed it.

[paper marsh]

I think logs don't count though. Made a few mountains log cabins where the walls were just horizontal corewood logs and pretty sure I was exposed inside those :(

[sharp owl]

the tag wall seems to be the requirement.

Does anyone of you use the BepInEx Config Editor?

[sharp owl]

hm I'm trying to build a bridge over water and I can't get the pillars to snap anymore. Down to the ground I mean.

[haughty geode]

bruh, my Karve got pushed with stormy wave onto a rock and now it fall on the side... is it lost?

[nocturne wolf]

If you can’t flip it you can destroy it and get all materials back

You can’t destroy ships with a hammer so you have to use a weapon

[haughty geode]

if I destroy it Iget everything back? I jst watched it turn into shipwreck but nails didn't come back

[sharp owl]

do mobs not harm each other at all anymore?

[haughty geode]

nvm nails hid from me...

[nocturne wolf]

The nails sink but you can still get them

[sharp owl]

the troll never collaterally damages other mobs.

[nocturne wolf]

The only creatures with friendly fire against their allies are in ashlands

Otherwise only enemy creatures will hurt each other

[sharp owl]

that's super lame tbh

i can very well remember when the troll took out a ton of other mobs.

[nocturne wolf]

And you’re sure those weren’t from another biome?

[sharp owl]

nah he massacred those garden dwarves with each hit.

[sharp owl]

it keeps over and over happening to me that i pick smth up, go over the weight threshold and then stand there like the worst idiot, till I throw smth outta my inventory. This should simply not be possible imo

[hard sluice]

you want the players to be unable to pick something that would get them over the weight limit?

[sharp owl]

exactly and often enough that is the case, but then in another occasion it isn't.

sometimes the dude doesn't pick stuff up when he's almost at max

[hard sluice]

it would cause problems for crafting items that require a lot of metal

[sharp owl]

it causes the worst problems if you die because of that 🙂

[hard sluice]

it wont auto pick if it owuld take you over the limit, but it will if you manually grab it

[sharp owl]

it constantly does

[hard sluice]

it never happened to me

[sharp owl]

I keep fighting these 3 trolls at once here. Would be fine, but randomly i run over a bunch of stones etc. and just freeze in place. Then they pancake me

this has happened like 6+ times by now

since it's about the copper spot with a ton of stones lying around... 🙁

[hard sluice]

i think 'v' toggles auto pick on and off

[sharp owl]

I didn't know about this

[hard sluice]

fighting 3 trolls at the same time is quite the challenge

[sharp owl]

I kite them through trees and shoot the same one with the bow. Thing is additionally 2 have a star from the mod.

[hard sluice]

thats how i fought trolls in my 1st run, but once i learned that i can use dodge to get 'i frames', i started fighting them head on with a spear.

[sharp owl]

ye if it's one I melee him. Not really feasable vs 2.

do i get some kind of feedback from toggling with "v"?

[hard sluice]

you should be seeing a message that its on or off. maybe i changed the keybind for it

[sharp owl]

ah now I saw it. Gonna use this now, thanks! ❤️

[hard sluice]

yw !

[sharp owl]

but this is still a really annoying bug.

[strange cradle]

I never had the problem of auto-pickup getting my char over the max weight limit.

Only if I deliberatly pick something up.

[tacit crystal]

It could be mod causing issue too. I have never had such issue and I've played fully vanilla for my whole playtime.

[strange cradle]

Mods are the cause of many a problem.

[tacit crystal]

Could be good idea asking from people in https://discord.com/channels/391142601740517377/1202550198174486599

[sharp owl]

hm, idk. it's not like I play some super jank. it's just the huge QoL mods, Epic Loot, CreatureControl (to make them stronger).

[strange cradle]

Try to see if it happens without.

And you know you can make the game more difficult without using mods?

[sharp owl]

the game itself has sliders

[strange cradle]

Exactly.

[tacit crystal]

If you asked Smiffe (one of the developers) he would tell it is mod issue with high possibility.

[strange cradle]

The only time, where this could happen in vanilla, is if you died, and had the belt on and where over your max capacity without it.

[sharp owl]

I had this working before, not picking stuff up. This just started like 2 hours ago 🙁

[strange cradle]

You pick yourself up and not wearing the belt will become encumbered after a certain amount of seconds.

[tacit crystal]

Normally if item would exceed your carrying capacity, causing over-encumbrance, you wouldn't pick it up automatically.

[strange cradle]

Exactly.

[sharp owl]

yeah, exactly like that. I even wondered the fist time why I couldn't pick smth up, not having played for like 2 years.

[tacit crystal]

It's possible after last update one of some of the mods you're using would need updating for current Unity engine version.

[strange cradle]

That too.

[tacit crystal]

Hence, asking in https://discord.com/channels/391142601740517377/1202550198174486599 might be good idea.

[sharp owl]

they are all up to date, but sure could still be a mod issue. I simply toggle with "v" now when I fight serious stuff.

[tacit crystal]

Yeah, if the issue remains, asking in that channel would be good idea.

[sharp owl]

btw do you know the respawn time for "stuff in the world" like flint etc.? is that the same for all items?

[tacit crystal]

Could be few ingame days iirc.

[strange cradle]

There are certain mods I like (seasons come to mind), but I would have to run Valheim in x86 mode and that slows it down too much (playing on a Mac), so I rather play vanilla.

[idle storm]

4 hours iirc

[strange cradle]

Not sure about the respawn timer, but I would check the Wiki.

[idle storm]

at least it's 4 hours for most things

[sharp owl]

I was about to ask how to switch arrow types, but this is refreshingly elegantly implemented. Should be a royal example for all other games instead of figuring out the designated "switch ammo hotkey".

[strange cradle]

Yeah, I like it too.

[tacit crystal]

Arrow types can be switched from another even when bow drawn when they are clicked on hotbar.

I used that a lot in my bow only playthrough.

[sharp owl]

can you somehow swim faster?

i mean like dashing/sprinting, not finding epic diving gear.

[strange cradle]

No, afaik, you can only gain endurance.

[sharp owl]

lol took me a while to figure that out.

[strange cradle]

How long you last swimming, that is.

[sharp owl]

90% of my deaths were in the friggin water.

[strange cradle]

😄

[sharp owl]

basically all of them.

[strange cradle]

That's why you should avoid it like hell.

Especially in the Swamps.

[sharp owl]

Water is way too op in this game.

[strange cradle]

😄

[idle storm]

Fins of Destiny increase swimming speed. Easy to trigger too

[strange cradle]

Wait till you get to Mistlands. 😉

Ah, yes. I try to avoid swimming as much as possible. Forgot about the new trinket thingy.

[sharp owl]

one troll gives 10 hides now 😮
pretty sure it was like 4 or 5 a long time ago

[strange cradle]

That was a one star.

[idle storm]

it's still 5, 1 star trolls just drop double loot

[sharp owl]

oh yeah, 2 1-star and a normal one. Was quite the pain.

[strange cradle]

I can imagine. 😄

[sharp owl]

and they all watched the same 2 copper rocks...

That they protect their shinies is also smth new to me.

[strange cradle]

They really don't. Normally not that many would spawn in once place.

Probably again a mod issue.

[idle storm]

depends. The spawn limits don't factor in one-time spawns like in front of troll caves afaik

[sharp owl]

whenever I hit the rocks they come running. Read and heard this also in all the clips and so

[strange cradle]

Tru.

[idle storm]

so if you have troll caves close together you can easily pull 2-3 trolls if you start mining

[tacit crystal]

One trinket specifically grants increased swim speed.

[sharp owl]

that would be the cryptonite vs my Archenemy.

the f'in water

[idle storm]

fins are a must-carry when i go fishing and serpent hunting now

they make swimming a viable method of movement

[strange cradle]

I try to avoid water like the plague. ;D

[sharp owl]

the best thing is if you die and are so annoyed that you just carelessly beeline to your corpse and drown in the process.

or drown and then drown again while corpse running.

[idle storm]

i once build a frame out of corewood logs for a fishing hut over the water. Then i fell inside.
Fun fact: you can't dive in Valheim. You also can't equip your hammer while swimming.
I drowned less than 5 meters from shore.

[strange cradle]

Yeah. This really sucks.

[sharp owl]

and you can't even jump out of the water now, right?

[idle storm]

nope

[strange cradle]

This is something IronGate needs to fix, IMHO. You should be able to at least use a hammer or a dagger or something in the water.

[sharp owl]

this just straight up sucks donkey ballz. Think they gonna change this

[idle storm]

i was trapped in a 8x8m cage of corewood logs with full sta food and several sta meads and still couldn't do anything except die helplessly

[strange cradle]

This has been a long-standing complaint. I don't think this will ever be fixed.

[idle storm]

The other one are these little submerged dead-end tunnels in swamp crypts with a root hanging down

turns out you can get stuck behind that root

[sharp owl]

you are like basically out of the water but can't jump .5 millimeter upwards.

while your head is actually already outta the water

[idle storm]

Yeah, since then i always put ladders on the inside of my frames when building over water 😂

[sharp owl]

I don't even have proper frames except the starters. How do you get new shapes?

[strange cradle]

You... build them?

[idle storm]

i mean building a frame out of wood beams

[sharp owl]

you mean a Mcgyver ladder instead of an actual intended one?

[idle storm]

no, the actual 45° wood ladders, you can use those to get out of water

[strange cradle]

Once you pick up wood, and a hammer, you pretty much get all the basic recipes for wooden structures.

There is more stuff to discover, but that's just new materials.

[sharp owl]

oh that thing is considered a ladder

yeah i have those in the water too

it's more like a stair case to the attic to me 😄

[strange cradle]

A steep one. 😉

[sharp owl]

Wonder why they don't have the classic rpg ladder.

[strange cradle]

Probably a animation and movement problem.

[sharp owl]

would be way more convenient to buld with

[strange cradle]

I agree.

There are mods that add ladders, but they basically teleport you.

[sharp owl]

the thing is, even if you defeated 3 Trolls in absolutely nsfw bänggäng fassion. you still gotta visit Bone and the gang for the Cores and they hit through my parry.

probably gotta dodge by walking till I have a better shield.

[strange cradle]

I make the bone shield as soon as I can. Works even with Draugrs. But a lvl 3 wooden shield should survive regular skellies and even one stars.

Maybe even two stars. Can't remember.

[sharp owl]

I didn't even know there is Bone armor.

I'm still running around with leather stuff...

[strange cradle]

Not bone armor. The bone shield.

It's a tall shield. Can't parry.

[sharp owl]

I don't even have that in crafting options, I think.

[strange cradle]

Yeah, you need skulls for it.

[sharp owl]

where would I get those?

[strange cradle]

From skellies. 😄

[sharp owl]

yeah well... 😄

[strange cradle]

Again, a lvl 3 wooden shield should be good enough.

Eat well.

Food is the most important thing in Valheim.

[sharp owl]

I also didn't know I can upgrade my armaments 😮

[strange cradle]

😄

Upgrading is important.

[sharp owl]

seems so 😄

[strange cradle]

Lvl 2 is good enough for most, but lvl 3 is playing it safe.

[sharp owl]

However I probably still wouldn't have thought to upgrade my stick gear tbh

but the parry thing sound good

[strange cradle]

The bone shield can't parry, only block.

[sharp owl]

ye, I mean upgrade the wooden shield

[strange cradle]

Use deer armor, lvl 2 should be enough. Eat well.

[sharp owl]

isn't that leather?

[strange cradle]

Troll armor is arguably MUCH better than deer.

You now have enough troll leather to do troll armor. I would go for it.

Much higher armor level. Even at lvl 1.

You basically shrug off greydwarves and skellies.

[haughty geode]

how often troll caves don't have troll inside?

[strange cradle]

Not sure, sorry.

[strange cradle]

There's rags (boar), deer leather (deer), and troll (troll leather).

[sharp owl]

from my experience, you just gotta look at copper and 2+ come running.

[strange cradle]

That's why I usually go troll hunting, even when I'm still in the Meadows and wear just the starter rag.

I make the first bow, some wooden arrows and go for it.

[sharp owl]

wasn't like daggers or knifes good against trolls?

knives*

[strange cradle]

With the right knife you can one-hit a troll. A chitin knife is good for that, but you need to be VERY quick after that if you don't one hit them.

I'm old and slow. Bow is it for me, when I'm not armored well enough.

[sharp owl]

I didn't even think about backstabbing them...

[strange cradle]

Backstabbing is the thing.

A lvl 3 chitin knife usually one-hits them.

[sharp owl]

applies to my work environment as well

[strange cradle]

😄

With 15 troll leather, you can make the trousers, chests and hood of the troll leather set. That's a significant increase in armor.

[sharp owl]

I have 25 now

[strange cradle]

What are you wearing?

[sharp owl]

atm leather 😄

[strange cradle]

Deer?

[sharp owl]

but with a lvl wooden shield!

lvl 3 that is

is there a difference between Leather and Deer?

[strange cradle]

Go for troll armor. It is MUCH better. I think lvl 1 armor is 8.

[sharp owl]

yeah sure.

but just for clarification in terms of Deer =/ Leather?

[strange cradle]

Well, what leather did you use to craft it?

[sharp owl]

Bambi Leather

[strange cradle]

Deer.

Troll is way better.

[sharp owl]

we need some sicko armor set with a massively horned stag head and horns on the shoulds and stuff.

Carcosa style if you know what that is

[grave parcel]

we need scorched and polar bears

make fist progress for entire game 🙏

[sharp owl]

there are a bunch of white bears. I thought they are those.

[strange cradle]

There are no white bears in vanilla.

[sharp owl]

that's probably my seasons mod then

look pretty great

[strange cradle]

You really should try to play the game in vanilla, before you get confused what is mod and what is vanilla. 😉

[sharp owl]

I played it sooo many times before.

and there are way too many good ideas in the mods

[strange cradle]

But you pretty much don't know what is vanilla anymore. 😄

And things did change a bit.

[sharp owl]

that's true, but I'd still not wanna miss good mods

[strange cradle]

shrug

Well, to each their own. 😉

I really don't need mods to enjoy Valheim.

Well, I would love a seasons mod to be integrated into Valheim.

That would be swell.

[sharp owl]

I mean seasons just look better. Inventory Quality of LIfe stuff makes the game more enjoyable. I don't play with light sabre or call of duty stuff as well. I basically have Epic Loot and a mod to make mobs stronger.

[strange cradle]

And the stronger mobs can be achieved by setting the difficulty higher in-game.

Try hard mode. It's too much for me. I stick with default, thank you very much. 😉

[sharp owl]

yeah, but that's just the most boring decrease output increase input lazy approach.

the most boring scaling of difficulty

[strange cradle]

What does the mod change?

[haughty geode]

maaaybe, but I just found a cave without a troll

[sharp owl]

you get different kind of mobs ranging from 1 to 3 stars. I think later on you can even get 5 stars. They drop more stuff but are also harder

[strange cradle]

Well, basically what's in game right now.

[sharp owl]

There's also a ton of other stuff I haven't touched yet

[strange cradle]

You have no-star, one-star and two-stars.

[sharp owl]

it's 2 plus pages in the bepinex to scroll down of variables.

[strange cradle]

I've tried several times on hard mode, but I never get past the Black Forest, as I just get killed too easily.

[sharp owl]

getting to the Black Forest was like D-Day. I had to swim over there and a bunch of angry (probably german) garden dwarves were camping the shore.

[strange cradle]

Even though default is most of the time too easy, there will be moments where you have to be at your best to survive. That's why it's good enough for me.

I'm German, so that's really funny for me. 😄

[sharp owl]

na frali!

[strange cradle]

Hehe

[sharp owl]

with the mod mobs can also spawn with special effects. Like a Thunder Boar.

[strange cradle]

Oh, ok.

[sharp owl]

Or mb Hasan's lightning infused doggo.

[strange cradle]

Ok, so additional mobs as well.

Because there are no dogs in vanilla... well, if you don't count wolves.

[candid basalt]

Leave my wolf puppies out of this

[strange cradle]

😄

[sharp owl]

Hasan Piker's Shock Collar mod. So you'd enslave wolves with a shock collar.

[strange cradle]

Oh... that would... not be my thing. 😛

I love dogs too much and even hate killing wolves.

[sharp owl]

I have a dog.

at least by definition

[strange cradle]

😄

[sharp owl]

she's more like a bitchy princess

[strange cradle]

We have a Malinois-something mix.

She's a handful. 😉

[sharp owl]

She also dislikes other dogs. They are beneath her and only plays or socializes with humans. There is just one dog she actually interacts with. Also She has her own bed and gets pissed if someone else gets in there.

[strange cradle]

Hehe

[sharp owl]

like an actual bed not a dog bed or smth.

[strange cradle]

Our dog's also pretty peculiar who she likes. And yeah, she pretty much sleeps on our beds as well. But she has her own doggo bed for the first time in 10 years and she's ok with that.

But she only uses it at night.

[sharp owl]

When she had the serious sh1tz for 2 weeks we tried to put a little bit of dried food in her bowl. She just looked at us like "really? Are you kidding me" and walked away.

[strange cradle]

😄

Riley will eat ANYTHING.

Like... ANYTHING:

I had to pull literal shit out of her mouth.

[sharp owl]

hahahha

[strange cradle]

And that was in the middle of our walk and I had to walk home with shit covered hands.

She's never satisfied after a meal. She always wants more.

[sharp owl]

ours is so unbelievably picky. Dog food is out of the question. That's mostly from when my mum was still alive and even cooked for her and stuff...

[strange cradle]

Riley won't care. My wife still cooks her veggies and such, but the meat is good canned food.

She's got some kind of allergy. So she gets lamb.

But she will eat... anything. 😛

[sharp owl]

german canned dog food is mostly good stuff with the occasional outliers.

[strange cradle]

Yeah, not cheap too. This is higher quality stuff.

[sharp owl]

tried it quite a few times when I was drunk

[strange cradle]

😄

The good stuff actually even smells delicious. 😄

[sharp owl]

they always lack spices and salt tbh 😂

that's also like one of the biggest myth, that dogs are so sensitive to spices...

sure, you can't just hand them the hottest red glowing chilli from hell. But generally they are so resistant to many influences.

[candid basalt]

I feed my dogs deer meat cause I always have a ton of it and this is the Walheim chat channel

[sharp owl]

are you a Huntah?

[candid basalt]

Just a Viking looking to tame askvin

[sharp owl]

my whole family tree were all big hunters. My dad was even a big game hunter in Africa, but all stopped with me and my brother since we found it boring.

they really tried.

I shot like all the things up to 12mm Elephant stoppers. Still is kinda boring to me.

and I'm also not much into killing animals. Everything beyond a spider is too emotionally cruel to me. I could never hurt a mouse or smth.

it's also pretty backwards that the troll gear makes you sneaky. Sure Trolls are widely knows to be cloak and shadow assasins across fantasy universes.

[candid basalt]

Deep North needs flaming dragons

[tacit crystal]

Sincerely hoping something else.

[candid basalt]

Was playing on Les Grossman’s name

[tacit crystal]

Ah.

[candid basalt]

I do want caribou to yell at us like deer though

Or even moose. They are very dangerous though

[thorn citrus]

Yeah don't make me use a bow please

[tacit crystal]

Using the bow ain't the problem.

[thorn citrus]

Oh trust me it is

[tacit crystal]

I was just like "please something else than just dragons".

But it was apparently just joking.

[sharp owl]

I don't get it. Whenever I craft the Troll Armor I get a crackling sound and it doesn't finish/go through.

probably smth trivial I'm missing.

oh lol, I have 25 Trollskins but 3 Bone Fragments...

too bad you can't upgrade the generic club

[slender tree]

Is there some public server i can join i have no friends to play with

I have a mic

[sharp owl]

allright the game just lagged and I crafted 3 troll tunics... and now have 3 Fragments left...

[slender tree]

Can i join wit u guys

[sharp owl]

my guy's armor is always white. Is there smth like a color setting I might have accidentally touched?

[slender tree]

Can i please join if u dont want me to just say thats okay

Okay im gonna go to other servers to ask

[open bolt]

#1024264966712340510 Check this channel

[open bolt]

Which armor?

[sharp owl]

all of them

[open bolt]

Are you playing just vanilla Valheim? or do you have mods, for example?

[sharp owl]

I just looked further into it. Seems like it comes from the "seasons" mod and in Winter they are all white.

[open bolt]

I see. Makes sense then.

Originally they shouldn't be white. They have different styles and colors depending on the crafting materials.

[sharp owl]

the yellow crypt mushroom had one really good use later in the game, right?

[tacit crystal]

For some meads, yeah.

[slender tree]

Can i please join in not a noob i only need friends to play pls🙏🏽

[tacit crystal]

You can try finding people to play with in https://discord.com/channels/391142601740517377/1024264966712340510 👍

[slender tree]

The are all 18+

[tacit crystal]

Probably not all of them.

[sharp owl]

repairing armor and weapons shouldn't be free. Hot take, I know.

[open bolt]

I think that would make people only repair their items when they are almost broken

[tacit crystal]

It's kinda countered by the cost of crafting recipes.

[open bolt]

If they made that change, they would probably have to increase the item durability in like 500%. Otherwise we would have to repair it too often and we would loose a lot of materials.

[tacit crystal]

Yeah, system that works doesn't need fixing.

[open bolt]

However∶ one ideia could be adding the "repairing objects costs materials" option into the world modifiers

[open bolt]

In that way people that wanna play even more hardcore could choose that option. And they would have to be very careful to try and not damage their stuff beyond the necessary. And they would have to grind more for materials too. But it could be fun for people that like that playstyle.

[chrome badge]

Tbh, it's refreshing that repairs dont follow the same logic as other games, it seems more realistic to me, as weaponry dulling would just require some sharpening and the like.

[open bolt]

If there are world modifiers where we can choose to lose everything on death, why not a modifier to need materials to repair stuff?

[chrome badge]

The materials are there already, they just may be out of place or suffering from wear and tear.

[open bolt]

Basically that.

[open bolt]

Yeah. I like it the way it is now too.
That's why I only thought that we could have an option for the players who like that playstyle, for example. Instead of having it be a feature for everyone.

[paper marsh]

For awhile I toyed around with the idea of doing a playthrough where I was not allowed to repair gear

[light moat]

That sounds like fun 🤔

[silk token]

my first world ever playing solo i didnt realize the repair icon was to repair and the bird never flew down to me when my tool broke, so i had a spot where i tossed all my stone axes once they broke 🤪 it didnt seem crazy to me with just stone and wood material costs

[foggy glacier]

lol

[silk token]

i feel like it would get unsustainable pretty quick once you hit black forest.. it would turn into a stone and flint tools/weapons run real quick just to not have to use up bronze. oh god then iron gear… yeah no.

[idle storm]

finewood bows and wooden arrows could carry you until mistlands at least

in mistlands you switch to frost arrows so that's covered too

silver isn't too hard to farm either so a couple silver swords for Yag and early ashlands should be doable

[silk token]

it would be interesting.. because ultimately lots of materials are finite, so you’re also on the clock and forced to not fight… or fight with cheese.. the more i think about it the more it sounds like it would turn into a weird cheese grind playstyle that i would hate

[idle storm]

carapace spears are pretty cheap too now that i think of it

once you've got a couple portals at infested mines set up you can more or less mass produce those

[silk token]

i think spamming troll or bear armor would be necessary, can even upgrade it

[flat stag]

building a boar house to guard my 2 star champs against invasions. If I leave a little opening equals to "wood half wall", can bats fly in there?

[idle storm]

they can fit through a 1m x 1m hole iirc but if you outline it with beams they can't

[flat stag]

hmm, maybe i should make glass from crystals then?

[idle storm]

it's not like it has any other use after you've made the crystal battleaxe

[flat stag]

I just want to be able to see inside from the outside, without having to go inside the building

so, bats will not fly through crystal walls (glass)?

[idle storm]

no, they don't attack buildings

but basically any 1m wide viewing slit lined with beams works against bats. They can't fly through a wall made out of those wooden crosses either even if the holes look big enough

[flat stag]

by beams you mean along the edge/border of the opening?

Thanks

[supple fossil]

was there a small update?

my map looks so clean and crisp for no reason

[flat stag]

i put 3 beams. One on top of the edge and 2 on the sides. Bottom is not necessary?

[idle storm]

shouldn't be

you just need it to be that little bit under 1m wide

[tacit crystal]

2nd of February there was patch with Unity engine update, performance improvements and some extra items.

[supple fossil]

Hmm I guess I’m. Just noticing

[sullen current]

Could we have functioning game audio at this stage of the game. I don't find it enjoyable even in the slightest when the game audio is half static audio...

[merry pebble]

Hmm? The audio seems just fine to me, just ashlands have fewq issues

[sullen current]

"few"

[dusty grotto]

I've never had the audio do THAT, its been choppy for a few moments. Drivers all up to date?

[sullen current]

Obviously I have my drivers up to date. It's honestly kinda lame that I can not continue to play the game due to audio issues.

Guess I have to do the fader boss fight a another time and gamble if the audio works the next time around...

[dusty grotto]

Playing on windows?

[stone ridge]

is valheim ever going to have public servers that you can just join and try out?

[dusty grotto]

Ah well windows audio drivers aren't known to be the best, verify game files, yada yada, Im sure you know the song and dance at this point.

[merry pebble]

In most likelyhood never, all servers are player hostd so it depends if the owners want it public or not 🙂

[pastel palm]

anybody know any good building tutorials?

[candid basalt]

Yes

[sharp owl]

makes more sense to build the Kiln first? This time I didn't burn that much food 🙂

[candid basalt]

If you only have enough to build one, kiln first and make enough coal to equal twice the ore you have. Then break it and make smelter and go ham

[hoary scarab]

I only had cores for one building in my current playthrough, so as adipocere says, stock pile a lot of coal then switch over

[sharp owl]

yeah that's the proper business approach, but If I have 9 Coal now and I desperately want dat cobba

[candid basalt]

Burn 18 boar meat or neck tails and go ham

[nocturne wolf]

You shouldn’t even have 18 neck tails

[quasi latch]

They get in my way, so I punch them to death

[sharp owl]

I have read a few times by now, that the first weapon you should get for a new tier is almost always a blunt one?

[nocturne wolf]

Swamps is where it’s most useful

You don’t really need it anywhere else

And even in swamps it’s mainly for the boss

[sharp owl]

there is no way to set it up, so that always equip your shield with your 1h? To not have the shield on the hotbar.

[nocturne wolf]

No, they are separate items and must be equipped individually

You don’t always need your shield out anyway

It slows you 5%

[keen sinew]

I would love that

[sharp owl]

can you get rid being wet more efficiently/faster? Like hold a torch as in other games?

[shy marlin]

Stand near/on fire or get hit by a fire attack

[sharp owl]

I really have such an insane scarcity for the underground skeleton caves for cores.

[idle storm]

some of them just look like small hills if you approach from the wrong side

[green reef]

you could reset raven tips, then ravens will land on them when you are near

probably could find more solutions too if you want

[oblique zinc]

I had one that was completely blocked by a rock, had to mine my way in. In general look for skellies in BF and follow them, they'll lead you to the chamber

[idle storm]

☝️ if there's skellies in the BF there's either a tomb or a ruined tower nearby

[sharp owl]

can Surtling Cores "randomly" drop as well? suddenly I have 3 more, while not visiting a shrine.

[silk token]

nope, must have been the surtling fairy

[torpid nest]

can someone help retrieve our stuff?

[flat stag]

are 2 star wolves worth getting?

[tacit crystal]

Worth is subjective. But they're nice for the extra "achievement" in your base, company and guards around your base.

[summer hinge]

You can cheese a handful of bosses if you get enough of them tamed, but it's often not worth it because of how many you need and how many get killed

But it's really funny to do

[flat stag]

I remember a few years ago it was quite a pain to get. Not sure if they added something useful to the wolves other than howling all day long and blocking the road

[pliant hatch]

They can:

https://discord.com/channels/391142601740517377/1033392094817046630

[summer hinge]

They are really handy for base defense from raids, but beyond that, I don't think there's much use.

[rotund parrot]

I think only the cub howl now

[idle storm]

1 stars do it almost as well and are much less of a pain to get

if you get lucky, nice, but otherwise i wouldn't bother specifically hunting for 2 stars

though you might want for a fenring trophy at night in the mountains anyway so having a taming pit nearby just in case can't hurt

[pale acorn]

why did yall make ashlands like this dawg
too many enemy and differnt types with high hps
kinda highly annoying rather than skill expression or fun

[tacit crystal]

IIRC the pain part was that even after they got tamed they still could despawn if not secured in base and get offsprings from it. But it was fixed so that once the taming starts they don't despawn anymore.

[copper karma]

Yeah we know.

[plush umbra]

Yoooo

Anyone trying to do a vanilla boss run?

[pliant hatch]

I think we all do.

Although when I look at the amount of game days, it's more like a boss crawl for me.

[plush umbra]

I was going to open a fresh cureent update community server and use a seed for quick bosses

[pliant hatch]

Oh, that kind of a boss run.

You'd better post about that in https://discord.com/channels/391142601740517377/1024264966712340510

[plush umbra]

Thanks ! 😄

[cosmic summit]

Will the rocky poi spawn into old saves? I've been hearing conflicting info about wether or not it will

[pliant hatch]

It will, as long as the area isn't explored yet.

[fossil delta]

I'm still laughing about landing in the Ashlands last night, and finding out we landed right at a Fader altar. Especially when I think about how much we went through to get to it in our last play through.

[flat stag]

is it possible to make the entire tall tower in the plains collapse using stonecutter and dismantling?

[fossil delta]

No.

[paper marsh]

No. It's not made of regular building blocks

Similar to how you can't make a dungeon collapse

[fossil delta]

You can get a fair amount of iron from inside, though.

[flat stag]

thanks

[fossil delta]

I think I get over 30 iron each time. But I be sure to destroy pretty much everything.

[idle storm]

also you can't build inside or on top but you can place things attached to the side

[fossil delta]

We couldn't get inside otherwise.

[idle storm]

true but it also makes for a nice base location

[fossil delta]

Yeah, been thinking of some designs to do with them.

[frigid anvil]

I've got a really nice peninsula which has a big mountain, some plains, and some swamp, with a convenient bit of meadows for safe existence

Though I am tempted to build a tree base in the swamp off of those indestructible trees

[flat stag]

i remember 2 years ago you had to bring some chests to the woman trader - anything nice you get as a reward for that?

[frigid anvil]

Frostner makes the draugr rather nonthreatening

[fossil delta]

I don't mind building in swamps, after I clear out all the trees to brighten it up a little.

[flat stag]

Anything practical / useful?

[fossil delta]

Farming clothes, nothing I care for.

I just use the chests for decorations.

[idle storm]

swamp base is nice. Once you have silver gear nothing is really a threat to you but the leech infested water does a number on most raids. And you get all-day wisp fountain usage too.

[flat stag]

sigh.. why did they make this so time consuming just to get some literal peasant clothes 😄 at least give us something useful for our trouble.. this game is weird sometimes

[idle storm]

the sealed tower is useful mostly because it unlocks the corresponding raid

which is basically a black metal delivery

[paper marsh]

Also unlocks eggs which is nice

[fossil delta]

Some people like the farming clothes. Reduces stamina costs. I don't farm without armor, so useless to me.

[idle storm]

howling caverns is the only renewable source of cultist trophies iirc?

and the tomb unlocks the farming set that gives +25 farming skill i think

which translates to 6.25% chance to get an extra plant when harvesting if the skill scales linearly?

[idle storm]

my farming clothes is vile armor 😁

[fossil delta]

Which translates to high chance of death without wearing armor in the plains and Mistlands.

[idle storm]

bubble staff doesn't care about armor value

[fossil delta]

Yeah, but I don't make the magic stuff.

Plus you don't get that until Mistlands. Late in Mistlands.

[idle storm]

Deathsquitos do kind of put a damper on it before that, yes

also it unlocks yet another skeleton raid instead of something with useful loot so you may as well skip it 😂

[fossil delta]

I start farming in Mistlands well before I even beat Yag. My last few play throughs, anyways.

[opal prairie]

The fish there are so good.

[fossil delta]

The anglers do make a nice stamina food. Too bad I have such problems finding good fishing spots for them.

[idle storm]

i've generally had better luck fishing from a boat

[paper marsh]

I like to do Brenna and Geirhafa but not return the chest

[fossil delta]

I find that true for fishing in general.

[idle storm]

you usually have no shortage of pufferfish and anglerfish around mistland shores

tuna is the one i usually end up searching for if i go for the hat

[fossil delta]

I do find TONS of pufferfish. We leave them lying around to kill Hares for us.

The hares love to hang around roots, so we leave the puffers around those bases.

[idle storm]

I actually invested in a ballista set to shoot hares at my sapfarm. It works well enough but every time i hear the firing sound i wince at the waste of resources 😂
Definitely the lazy mans option though.

[fossil delta]

Fishing takes alot of time. So it takes alot of time to catch all those puffers we use. Just they are so effective with hares, we have stacks of that food.

I baked up over 6 stacks as we wrapped up last night.

[idle storm]

yeah that's why i usually don't bother with puffers or anglerfish. I fish what i need for troll's endurance mead and maybe a few of the other meads that require fish but that's it

i'd rather skip to ashlands early and grab the mats needed to craft scorching medley than go back to farming anglerfish

[fossil delta]

Hares take up a lot of time. The puffers cut down on that by a lot.

[opal prairie]

In one of my last playthroughs I had a small plains island with mistlands around it and hte water was also mistlands I had the fortune to have 3 angler fish spots aroudn that island.

[foggy glacier]

That's a really good approach. I haven't yet come up with something as simple as that for hare meat.

[fossil delta]

Yeah, once we get set up, all we have to do is spend some time gathering sap, and we also get at least 4 hares at each root.

Of course, you also have to chose roots with lots of hare activity.

Roughly one in 3 roots also has lots of hares running around.

[subtle pawn]

Update on my solo world:
Bonemass is dead and finally i can sleep without worry about fighting him again

[trail pelican]

imagine it only gets more difficult

well, okay, not ONLY, but MOSTLY

[subtle pawn]

yeah i know😅

i think that fight with moder would be fine

[idle storm]

i've always found mountains kind of chill, relatively speaking

[trail pelican]

right right--just gets stuck on some trees, cheesing without even trying to cheese

[idle storm]

wolves might give you a little trouble until you figure out the timing but otherwise if you can handle the swamp you can handle mountains imo

[subtle pawn]

thats good to know

but i can't wait to fight other 3 bosses, they gave me chills when i was watching how people struggle on them

[trail pelican]

there's also virtually always, however arguably 'cheesy' still short of full on devcommands (i.e. using only what exists in game vanilla), a way to brute force through if one gets stuck

so that's nice to know if all else fails

I mean REALLY, with good portal placement, you can do that pretty comfortably without that much skill loss by just persistence

[dark coyote]

Honestly, I've cheesed every boss except the first two.

[trail pelican]

i can never resist what many would probably say is 'cheesing' moder, because it's just too easy and efficient as a strategy to do--dig around the altar, and use the indestructibility of terrain and the altar as cover to attack from

[tough mulch]

same same I too am a rat, so I cant resist the cheese

[subtle pawn]

i mean thats just a good fighting arena

[tough mulch]

but thats still not full cheese though, bonefire cheese is the true cheese

[subtle pawn]

oh yeah

or going into tree when fighting bonemass

thats kinda funny tho that you can do that

[fossil delta]

There is a reason why any well trained infantry around the world uses trenches. I will "cheese" along with them all day long.

[dark coyote]

I just raise ground within jumping distance of the skull, and put the portal on top, same effect but you may need to shoot archers

[fossil delta]

Just getting up on the bonemass skull is good enough.

[dark coyote]

ah I have the portal there, so I can bail or repair

[fossil delta]

Yeah, worst he can do to you up there is spit his skeletons and oozes on you, and they usually get hung up in the sockets.

[pale acorn]

yall did they patch making wood into coal with staff of embers?

[flat stag]

anyone tried Valheim plus?

[merry pebble]

Folks in #mods-discussion might have 🙂

[fossil delta]

Its a feature now, with the right world setting.

[paper marsh]

Only happens if you're in the Ashlands or have Fire Tick world setting turned on

[pale acorn]

oh you have to change the settings huh?

[pale acorn]

i am in ashlands

i tried it but its not working

[paper marsh]

Maybe they did change it, not sure

Haven't played without firetick for a while

[fossil delta]

You have to have the world setting now.

[pale acorn]

oh ok thx brodies

[fossil delta]

The local trees still turn to coal. In Ashlands.

[pale acorn]

is it the best way to get coal

[fossil delta]

Burning seeker meat has been the best way for me. I'm working on my second BM chest getting full. 😄

We are in Ashlands now, so it will probably switch to the trees being a good source.

Not that we need all that much coal to finish with Flametal.

[pale acorn]

yeah same

i placed the wood stack in the fire that burns on the ground in ashlands

that worked without changing any settings

[fossil delta]

I'm only still stocking up on coal because I have no idea what the need will be in The North.

[pale acorn]

yeah but we didnt really need coal for mountains except for sliver smelting

[pale acorn]

i just reached ashlands
i am getting fried
the swarms of enemy kinda annoying

[fossil delta]

Aside from making signs, is coal used for anything else, really? Oh, I guess you need a few for a forge.

[pale acorn]

when i fight a morgan
a lot of others pull up

[pale acorn]

no i meant in deep north maybe

i thought you meant for deep north we might need coal to protect from cold or something

[fossil delta]

Yeah, my current strategy is to get up on a big rock, and surround it with a raised earth wall. Then as that rock gets destroyed, convert it into platforms that become my first main base in the Ashlands. I use the raised earth walls since they cannot destroy them, only the fire blobs can.

The rest is Grausten, since it also holds up well, and is plentiful.

[dark coyote]

I think the water should affect the blobs

[fossil delta]

It should, but doesn't. Had the little monsters jumping onto my boat last night.

[green reef]

I like to park on the far side of a spire that I can jump toward shore from. kind of a pain. I wonder if I'll get to a point where I enjoy building out a full base with a dock in Ashlands

[fossil delta]

My boat is on the outside of a grouping of 3 of those huge rocks. It still went back and around to the boat.

[pale acorn]

i dont park my boat on the sea nowdays

becuase my boat got destroyed by boneclaw and it was a pain to get back the materials

[fossil delta]

Still, they are making for the basis of my largest Ashlands base yet.

[fossil delta]

I have yet to lose a boat. Just came close once.

Last play through, my landing was pulling into a nice big pre existing structure. A pre made boat house. It was sweet. It even had lots of grapes.

[dark coyote]

I flipped my first karve, way way south of my base, had more bronze though

[fossil delta]

Oh, I'm just talking about Ashlands. I've lost a few other boats over the years.

[dark coyote]

ic, I was able to pull up to this peninsula tip, with no enemies and a structure, got lucky I guess

since everything is fire I wish a water moat would be effective

[fossil delta]

A ditch will still trap them. Except maybe the blobs, they jump pretty high.

I just do the raised earth, they are easier , faster, and I save up tons of stone just for this.

Plus, who cares about looking ugly in Ashlands. Its the land of ugly.

[dark coyote]

F asshlands

[inner shoal]

hows the game after the big update?

[fossil delta]

Better than ever.

[sleek sky]

new duel axes in medows and infinite stone generator is pretty hype

[tacit crystal]

Feels nice, I started a celebratory run and having a blast with early axes. 🪓

[sleek sky]

i threw away all my mysterious rocks on one of my worlds before i knew what they did 😭

[shy marlin]

💢 why i outta

[chrome badge]

May rocky forgive you

[sleek sky]

i mean its a moddded world so i dont need stone, but now i cant have cute adorable smiling rocks all over my castle which really sucks

[opal prairie]

Coal is like the one resource you constantly won't have enough of. Smelting any ore requires coal.

[chrome badge]

You can, you'll just have to track them down in another world.

[sleek sky]

good point, i could do that

or i could just use devcommands, or i could try to find the structure and see if there are any stones left

[fossil delta]

Well, as I have mentioned earlier, I am working on filling my second BM chest with coal. So you can get well ahead of your needs.

[idle storm]

between burning excess meat, surtling farms and trees naturally burning to coal in Ashlands i'm generally well supplied too

[fossil delta]

Yep. I also have 36 bee hives, so put honey in my obliterator on the regular. So between all of that, I do stay ahead of my needs, well ahead of them, as we enter the Ashlands.

[flat stag]

what is the best way to get dverg extractor from their tower? Slamming cart into their ward seems really r-tarded...

[green reef]

kill kill kill

[fossil delta]

I just aggro stuff until they are all dead.

[sleek sky]

find a 2 star seeker soldier and lead it over to the tower

[fossil delta]

They are very effective. Even without stars.

[flat stag]

this is such a strange game - just kill neutral guys with green hp bars

[fossil delta]

Yeah, its why I do the aggro stuff. Still makes me feel kind of dirty.

[green reef]

I like to aggro a gjall and let it and their magic make a mess. usually don't even have any dead dvrgrs after, but often will get broken open cases with the sappers

[flat stag]

it would feel more natural if they already were hostile

[tacit crystal]

Honestly? Some good ol' battleaxing.

[flat stag]

would not surprise me that we would be force to club baby seals in DN lmao

[fossil delta]

It would make the Mistlands much deadlier, too.

[sleek sky]

also once you get an extracter, fireball staff is awesome for removing towers

[green reef]

I wouldn't mind a faction like system where you gain or lose with them over time depending on how you treat them, but without quests, I'm not sure how you'd actually gain

[fossil delta]

Well, the dvergr fire mages are the best at destroying their own towers for the same reasons. 😄 😄

[flat stag]

i mean - the game expecting me to kill npcs that talk to me and even help me in battles makes me wonder... am i just a crazy evil dead viking?..

[sleek sky]

those are the drugr

evil dead vikings

[flat stag]

then explain why killing dvergr is ok - just curious to hear arguments

[fossil delta]

Like I said, even aggroing things in is a rather thin grey line. The end result is identical.

[nocturne wolf]

they have treasure

i need that treasure

[fossil delta]

On another note, I do wish they would give us the same build pieces we find within those tower walls, floors, and basements.

[nocturne wolf]

[flat stag]

aggroing things in <--- ???

IN*

[fossil delta]

At least we eventually got the door, and stairs.

[fossil delta]

Yeah, getting the bugs to attack instead of us attacking directly. We bring them IN from the surrounding area.

[flat stag]

wtf...... this ward has like 5000 hp?!...

had to repair cart 3 times now

[fossil delta]

Not sure how many, but they are tough.

We can build them, so you can look up how many HP they likely have in your hammer menu.

[flat stag]

few years ago it was relatively weak

[fossil delta]

I have no idea if their wards have the same HP our own do.

[nocturne wolf]

dverger wards are different objects and probably have different health, I'm checking in-game now

[fossil delta]

Yep, just posted that very question. 😄 Great minds, I guess.

[flat stag]

this is making me rage... but i have 0 extractors

[nocturne wolf]

Wards have 1000
Dverger wards have 2000

[flat stag]

when i get 1 refined eitr cant i just drop 1 next to the ward to make it die slowly?...

[fossil delta]

You can also use puffer fish to kill them off. Just put a few in their door way, and most will die that way.

[nocturne wolf]

yes but it is very slow, especially since they are immune to poison damage

[flat stag]

fuk that - i am too angry to fish right now

[nocturne wolf]

angry enough to kill a dvergr?

[flat stag]

no, it's called sunk cost fallacy

punishing myself for what i started

[fossil delta]

All destroying a ward does is allow you to build within the towers previous warded area. It does not allow us to take stuff without aggroing the dvergr.

[idle storm]

yes it does

[nocturne wolf]

the ward is how they check if you're breaking their builds

[idle storm]

no ward = no dvergr aggro

unless you hit them directly of course

[copper karma]

@flat stag Don't Eitr the ward. Eitr the extractor box.

It's 1 hit.

[fossil delta]

Good idea!

[flat stag]

what about soft tissue boxes?

[copper karma]

Try it out

[idle storm]

you'll want at least 10-15 eitr to kill a ward in a reasonable timeframe

[flat stag]

will it work? because if not I need another method

[nocturne wolf]

the boxes have 200 health, the component crate has 10

so it will work but slowly

[idle storm]

honestly just equip the black metal knife and that's your first dead dvergr right there

[fossil delta]

Really? Good to know.

[idle storm]

unless it's one of the big towers with a buttload of mages you'll be fine

or just do some mining in the area to bring in the neighbors

[fossil delta]

Mining, cut down trees, just make noise.

[idle storm]

messing around with eitr or carts is only worth the effort if you want to keep the dvergr alive

[nocturne wolf]

you can also break the crate and run if it's not in a location you visit often

[flat stag]

afaik, no ward means that you can build in the tower and dvergr will stay and guard it?

[idle storm]

yep

[fossil delta]

I want at least a few of their towers, so some are going to just die.

[idle storm]

i've torn down an entire dvergr tower, build a new one and they went in and manned the battlements as soon as i opened the door

you can do some fun stuff with that if you get a good one with several starred mages

[fossil delta]

If they have fire mages, I am not letting them near one of my towers.

[idle storm]

well no i needed their black marble

but they saved my life a few times so i build them a new tower out of grausten

so it's their tower, not mine, just... renovated

[copper karma]

My dude.

[flat stag]

finally.... that stupid freaking ward is down

[nocturne wolf]

now its the dvergers turn

[flat stag]

next time i won't be patient

you guys telling me to kill dvergr was like me asking on Minecraft channel, and them telling me: just kill the trader and his alpaca

just murder them all in cold blood - paint the earth red, just for this one item

[copper karma]

You are right there with the tool necessary. Just try it out

[green reef]

there are several solutions, you've been provided several, kill is just one of them. you didn't like cart. another waas drag monsters over to them.

[thorny lake]

If I break down my christmas tree in my house cus im renovating, is there any way to get it back or will I have to wait until christmas?

[shy marlin]

you always can change your computer clock, or have debugmode but yea, without those two, you will have to wait

[thorny lake]

So if I change the time on my computer to christmas then i'll have the recipe with nothing else needing to be done?

[shy marlin]

yea 99% sure

never done it myself but that's how the seasonal patches work

[high cape]

anyone tryna play im new dm me

[thorny lake]

Whats a good way to find the big oaks?

[paper marsh]

They do load in before any other trees and structures I think, if that helps. Should make them easier to spot at range

[shy marlin]

I find them a lot in the open meadows, and generally they come in 3's

[thorny lake]

Ah alright

Tryna get a sapling for one