Literally one of the first mods ever created for valheim was putting a gameboy emulator on boats so it wasnt as boring
#valheim-chat
supple bear
fossil delta
Well, in that case, I guess that would explain a shortage in coins too.
supple bear
If you want coins mistlands is the best for that anyway
terse wagon
Only real Time ive use a bow is for pulling or moder fight until I get magic then, I no longer use a bow
supple bear
those secret rooms give like hundreds of coins
green reef
so many coins its too heavy to carry them all home
supple bear
Moder is the only fight i use a bow for as well
She doesnt really give you much choice with how much time she spends loafing around
terse wagon
so many coins its too heavy to carry them all home
Just portal them, always create a portal outside Dungeons for fast repairs etc
supple bear
if you dont have a pocket portal you're wrong ☕
fossil delta
I typically have thousands of coins by the end of swamps. Tons in chests in the BF, Meadows in swamp crypts, plus the chests in the swamp spawner areas.
green reef
my last run was no-portal. and I still had overflowing coins
supple bear
You spend a lot more time in those biomes than I do lol
My last run I only had to do a grand total of 2 crypts
terse wagon
Oh ok, I understand now
fossil delta
Troll coin can also add up, then I get even more from fuling villages and the fulings.
buoyant aurora
hello 🐽🐽
fossil delta
I spend way more time in swamps, for sure. Need blood bags, if nothing else.
terse wagon
The only really thing I use coins on is the belt, other than that I don't bother
supple bear
the belt and ymir flesh for me
thats if i even find him
been quite a flew playthroughs i never use the trader
fossil delta
Well, I make the iron sledge, Frostner, so need flesh too. Plus I also like the barrels.
green reef
eggs, squirrel tails
supple bear
Barrels o.O
The iron sledge is annoying to get
gotta camp at a spawner for half an hour waiting for a elite to spawn
fossil delta
IF you only spend 30 minutes in swamps, you probably can never make them.
supple bear
Yeah i just make an iron mace and smack the mass
fossil delta
Yeah, that trophy can get very annoying.
terse wagon
Just make sure you save all those Ooze things (can't remember off the top of my head).. but you craft Ooze Bombs for Mistlands Dungeons it's a life saver
supple bear
never used teh blobs for actual combat before lol
great for training blood magic though
terse wagon
You can throw the Ooze Bombs behind the mistlands wooded doors they go through, can kill a lot of stuff lol
fossil delta
I need 60 iron just for my ovens, so I usually hit up at least 10 crypts, so I have plenty for the plains armor, etc... Plus plenty of nails, in case I lose longboats.
supple bear
imagine doing combat in the mistlands before having a fire staff 😛
fossil delta
I do combat through out all of the Mistlands without any staves. I haven't gone the magic route since I first tried it out.
terse wagon
That's what I do, I go straight for Bronze axe using a troll for copper and Tin. Then go straight for Mistlands and use the Bronze Axe to destroy the first Viaducts for 2 iron bars so I can destroy the rest of it for 30-90 iron bars depending on the size of the Viaducts
I skip all bosses except for moder
supple bear
Its nice that you can tech skip so much in this game with the correct game knowledge
Back in the day gettnig silver equipment before killing a single boss was like the best you could do
now you can get mistlands weapons, just not the magic ones
fossil delta
Why use the axe to destroy them? Just use the forge and a stone cutter. Much faster and easier that way.
fossil delta
I guess.
terse wagon
I use the Bronze Axe because it has more damage at that tier level, I tested weapons out, I only destroyed enough for 2 bars to craft a stonecutter workbench then use the hammer to deconstruct
fossil delta
Even just using the forge would make it easier, until you get the iron. Destroy the iron in a second.
fossil delta
You can, if you find one.
terse wagon
Well viaducts are easy to find alone along the island coasts in mistlands, normally I don't have aggro
supple bear
soldiers and gjalls are lthe only enemy that can spawn outside of pois
fossil delta
Yeah, fortunately finding bugs along the water is kind of rare. Not impossible, but it does seem rare.
supple bear
yeah you would have to go inland to find one and lure it probably
terse wagon
It doesn't take long for me to destroy a few for iron for stonecutter
supple bear
which without a mistlight can be dangerous if you go too close to a dungeon or abandoned tower
those things have 3-5 one time spawns at them usually
terse wagon
Yeah that's why I stick to the coast line because viaducts spawn there as well with no mists
split adder
are asksvins rare or something
supple bear
Not as common as skeletons but not really rare
terse wagon
are asksvins rare or something
No, you'll see them often
fossil delta
are asksvins rare or something
Can be, they show up more inland, for sure.
supple bear
they usually come in packs as well
tacit crystal
are asksvins rare or something
Quite common, in lava areas.
terse wagon
Star Askavin's are more rare, 2 star are at night
supple bear
Youll be fighting and all the sudden 3 1 star askvins instant transmission from king kais place to teach you a lesson
fossil delta
Think all starred Askavin show only at night.
supple bear
Im pretty sure ive seen 1 stars during the day
but they might be night spawns that havent despawned yet
similar to serpents
fossil delta
ITs so dark in the Ashlands they may have been out in the day for all I know. I hate the Ashlands for so many reasons.
supple bear
Its still pretty easy to tell when its day time lol
terse wagon
Yeah Ashland weather can trick you thinking it's night lol
supple bear
Then again I use my rested buff to tell time
I get enough comfort for exactly 21 minute sof rested buff, when its over i know its about to be night
fossil delta
Its still pretty easy to tell when its day time lol
Let me guess, you have good vision, or are young enough to not have night blindness yet.
green reef
I adjusted my monitor to FPS and it bumped up the gamma
supple bear
I play on a 80 inch TV like 10 feet infront of me
3820 res lol
my old eyes cant handle them tiny monitors anymore
terse wagon
Same
supple bear
Ashlands does get pretty dark but not that dark during the day
The rested buff thing though is basically fool proof
fossil delta
Well, my computer monitor is huge, but I am still old and have night blindness on top of it. So darkness is not my friend.
supple bear
it might get dark during the storms? I dont think ive experienced one of those since the PTR
they used to blow down all the trees and summon the entire biome
terse wagon
Yeah, Ashland night usually kills me because I'll end up running into something which I can't see like a log, stone etc when I'm kiting in combat lol
fossil delta
Definitely gets darker with the storms, but just the nasty atmosphere effects darken things up for me.
supple bear
also storms only even happen on the beach right? Thats probably why ive never seen them
green reef
different kind of storm
supple bear
I b line straight to a fort and liberate it in the name of a free base
split adder
the ashlands experience is starting to make me want to use not a buckler
fossil delta
You have to see the fort first. I usually don't even see that green light for a good while after landing.
supple bear
They only spawn near the lava and its basically always in a checkerboard pattern
once you find one the rest is easy
terse wagon
Yeah those Ashlands keeps are great bases, I decorate them with the mist lights for no maintenance cost
fossil delta
Or is that Fader? I forget.
supple bear
The green lights are forts that havent been cleared yet
you see the beam before you see the building itself
nocturne wolf
the object with bell fragments is what creates them
terse wagon
Forts are usually more inland, you have to go deep
fossil delta
OK. yeah. It usually takes a while to even see those lights after landing. I have yet to find one quickly.
fossil delta
They do tend to be close to, even on, lava.
supple bear
Ashlands and by extension deep north are going to be the most consistent biomes across all seeds
because of how small and limited they are
terse wagon
Yes towards lava inland
supple bear
theres only like 20? forts or something on the entire map and they always spawn in like this zig zag pattern
fossil delta
Had one my last play through where 1/4 of it was in lava.
terse wagon
Ashlands brought darkness, Deep North will bring whiteout condition's lol
supple bear
Remember the Frigid Outskirts?
Thats what deep north is going to be but with polar bears instead of super saiyan deers
nocturne wolf
we don't need another bear reskin 
fossil delta
we don't need another bear reskin <:archpain:856084116906180608>
You mean Lox reskin? 😄
terse wagon
Yeah, that's exactly how it will be like the frigid outskirts
nocturne wolf
You mean Lox reskin? 😄
bears and lox have unique behaviours, viles have the exact same attacks as bears
just with more damage
supple bear
the polar bear is like pretty much a sure thing
fossil delta
bears and lox have unique behaviours, viles have the exact same attacks as bears
Doesn't mean they didn't use the Lox as the base.
nocturne wolf
did they?
supple bear
they added bears for a reason, and deep north has the same 2 biome gap progression
for bears
black forest bear > skip 2 biomes > plains bear > skip 2 biomes > polar bear
terse wagon
Yeah we could see a winter type bear
nocturne wolf
hopefully it has something new though
supple bear
Even the Mayans see it coming bro
nocturne wolf
so its not just a reskin like viles
supple bear
It couldnt be anymore obvious 😛
terse wagon
Hopefully they're not a pushover like the current bears lol
supple bear
It will likely have the same moveset
Dont forget they will add in other enemies as well
bears will probably be pretty rare
fossil delta
Heh, maybe the bear dream is of the normal bears, and not a bear boss. So we will have a bunch of limbless rolling bears to deal with in the North. 😄
Snowball bears.
supple bear
I couldnt venture to guess what the boss is going to be
Something made of ice probably
Ice bird?
frigid anvil
Swarm of bears
supple bear
In a passive plot twist you fight the thing that brought you here
frigid anvil
Bear army
nocturne wolf
I've been hoping for a double boss for a while
supple bear
You fight odin and mugin
Which by the way I never saw either of those birds my entire run
fossil delta
I'm relatively certain the bear dream is the North boss, but we will be finding out before too many more years.
supple bear
Praise the lord bro the birds are dead
nocturne wolf
nooo hugin 
supple bear
I think they just dont show tips anymore if you've already done it
I legit didnt see him once
fossil delta
You turned them off. Had to, can't avoid seeing them other wise.
nocturne wolf
they only show a tip once per character
supple bear
Is it off by default?
fossil delta
Nope.
nocturne wolf
they're on by default or new players won't know what to do
supple bear
Or like i changed it a long time ago and it applies to all future characters
nocturne wolf
yes, settings are for all characters
supple bear
because this last playthrough i didnt touch anything like that, maybe a long time ago
probably it then
nocturne wolf
except for 'reset raven hints' i think
supple bear
I was always a big bird hater
fossil delta
If its in general setting, not world, and I do think its general, so would stay off.
supple bear
Aren't there two of them now
fossil delta
Yes, after a point.
supple bear
They're breeding 🔫
fossil delta
I think the other one shows up in Mistlands. Might be sooner.
supple bear
By the way if the final boss is Thor im going to riot
split adder
it is indeed mistlands
supple bear
Its too obvious
split adder
By the way if the final boss is Thor im going to riot
but then we get his hammer
green reef
I leave the ravens so they can give me clues by landing on stuff while I'm running around, was great for no-map playthrough
supple bear
Thor is already in the game
split adder
fake thor
supple bear
although its been like 5 years since ive seen him
split adder
let us fight a fake thor
fossil delta
Thor is already in the game
He is not on the chariot. 😄
fossil delta
But we are supposed to believe he is.
fossil delta
Yeah, just he is not actually part of that "model".
supple bear
The bear is the only thing ill put money on
Probably be able to tame and ride it too
fossil delta
Bears we can ride may be possible.
supple bear
they will function like askvins do and let you go through deep snow or something without taking damage
I just hope they dont do what enshrouded did and make snow perma slow you
fossil delta
Maybe. Who knows what kind of environmental hazards they will create for the North.
supple bear
You can hazard some pretty educated guesses based on past development
worn steeple
Maybe. Who knows what kind of environmental hazards they will create for the Nor...
Hopefully so harsh you die if youre outside at night
supple bear
Its almost guarunteed progression is going to be tied to a "dungeon" for instance
Every biome operates this way
fossil delta
Plains has no dungeon.
split adder
meadows doesnt either
nocturne wolf
Pretty sure it is thor though
Thor isn't visible at all, just the lightning he creates. There are also two 3d deer and a wagon which is a box and two wheels.
fossil delta
The camps functions as that biomes "dungeon"
Ashlands has a dungeon. More like just a bigger troll cave, but still.
supple bear
every fort is the same
Deep north will likely have an actual dungeon
given how they felt about forts
nocturne wolf
Deep north will likely have an actual dungeon
||It's already been shown in the development updates||
fossil delta
I agree that it is likely. People do seem to love them more than not.
green reef
The more I learned ashlands, the easier the forts got.
supple bear
||It's already been shown in the development updates||
Makes sense, they wanted forts to be actual dungeons too not what we got
As long as they're not too similar to frost caves it should be fine
nocturne wolf
supple bear
So giant mole tunnels
Is the final boss gonna be a freaking grabboid
👀
You know you guys really missed the opportunity to make the frozen north a skeleton biome where the final boss is the "skeleton king" with his trusty "Shadowmourner"
You paid homage to Elden Ring, Arthas can get some love too
nocturne wolf
we have two skeleton biomes already and a skeleton boss 
split adder
a skeleton king boss no less
supple bear
Budget Lich King though
think about it
take all the ashlands enemies, put them in the deep north but make them blue
its literally warcraft 3 undead army
nocturne wolf
everything is a 2-star lord reto 
supple bear
Im pretty sure those guys were at the wrathgate incident
fossil delta
I haven't even bothered with Reto. Everyone bashes the sword so bad I've never bothered.
supple bear
Is that a weapon in valheim?
terse wagon
Be cool if Deep North introduces Ice fishing, I mean we kinda had it in the mountains caves rarely but still... I mean actually using your pick axe to create the ice and fish
supple bear
That is the most RP thing i've ever heard
terse wagon
Well it would be cool to do once you defeated everything to go back and live a little
supple bear
Im gonna hate lugging my base up there from ashlands
Oh wait no im not, stone portals 😏
split adder
what does the stone portal mean when it says it lets you go through with valuable items
can i teleport metals now or something
supple bear
Yes
fossil delta
No limits on stone portals.
terse wagon
What if you can't use portals there until later, think of it as radio waves.. the deep north might actually interfere, because I saw Aurora borealis
Something to think about
supple bear
Stone portals are something you can actually get without killing a single boss
from ashlands
It will be quite the journey but worth it
Theres a troll man handling a deer on valheims website
split adder
why does the fallen valkyrie do damage to other enemies
green reef
Ashlands are unique in that most of the creature types damage other types.
terse wagon
Back in the 90s when you would get bored you go off playing GTA doing stupid things to kill time.
Ashlands is that Time killer for me in this modern era because it's a constant battlefield
supple bear
Ashlands actually gets kind of quiet once you deal with the spawners and one time spawns
terse wagon
I noticed a lot of undead spawners will spawn inside the large grausten boulders
Sometimes you can't see it because it's in the middle but you can hear that extinct sound they give off
supple bear
Never seen that personally, not that ive looked very hard
terse wagon
Yeah I've had a few if those so for
thorny lake
found like 7 or 8 crypts in my first ever swamp and ever since i’ve never been satisfied with a swamp again
fossil delta
found like 7 or 8 crypts in my first ever swamp and ever since i’ve never been s...
Heh, years ago I used to find 20 to 30 crypts. Think that stopped with Mistlands.
thorny lake
crazy, i only find like 1-3 in most swamps
I guess my first one was a really lucky one
fossil delta
Swamps in general do seem much smaller now. Rare to find one I consider big.
supple bear
Half them crypts got 3 dead ends anyway
worn steeple
Swamps in general do seem much smaller now. Rare to find one I consider big.
Use an old seed, bet you can find some good ones on Reddit
supple bear
no doors you just walk into 3 closed paths
green reef
The first swamp I found on this nomap no portal playthrough I just did had 21 crypts in the swamp.
spark dew
i have multiple chests in my ashlands base and Valkyre keeping spawning inside base....literaly wtf
supple bear
old seeds get updated in newer version
my original seed from launch is way different now if i regenerate it
frigid anvil
crazy, i only find like 1-3 in most swamps
I've found seven in my first swamp lol
spark dew
sorry i meant to say benches
supple bear
They even move bosses and stuff around
fossil delta
sorry i meant to say benches
😄 I as going to say, I don't think chests block spawning. 😄
thorny lake
btw what needs to be placed for enemies to not spawn somewhere, greylings and shamans keep spawning inside our town even tho we we lots of buildings and a wall
I thought it was workbenches but that didnt help placing around either
fossil delta
Things like work benchs, fires, though not torches.
thorny lake
hm, does the workbench need to be under a roof?
fossil delta
Not for spawn blocking.
spark dew
i never had issues in the past with workbench spamming
green reef
they are probably wondering in
spark dew
but for some reason, things seem messed up lately
thorny lake
they are probably wondering in
Ive made some pretty good walls that should keep everything out
ill try again with workbenches tho and make sure i get all the area inside the walls
is the workbench radius the radius where spawning is blocked also? or is the block spawn area bigger
fossil delta
Ive made some pretty good walls that should keep everything out
Have you tried rebuilding the benches? Some times they can just stop being effective/working.
thorny lake
Have you tried rebuilding the benches? Some times they can just stop being effec...
nah not rlly, just been lookin at it as a free source of resin for a while tbh
but its nice to have to not think about em spawning from time to time
fossil delta
Try rebuilding them, then. You may just be dealing with a rare failure of their working.
thorny lake
prob that or just not using enough workbenches lol
still kind of in a learning phase of the game
even with 90 hours or so I still feel like I haven’t learnt half of whats in the game
fossil delta
It only takes a small gap in coverage to get a spawn in.
thorny lake
Haven’t watched a single video of Valheim on youtube either other than building tricks
supple bear
to truly block spawns you have to overlap benches for your entire render range
digital kindle
do emotes not work on anyone elses server? just curious
supple bear
or just go make an island in the water somewhere
quasi latch
to truly block spawns you have to overlap benches for your entire render range
Or torches
supple bear
probably cheaper
oblique zinc
prob that or just not using enough workbenches lol
Have some spikes or tame boars manage the inflow. But nothing is wrong with few lose grays in the town, they make it look lively, you can just catch them in the cage and keep em for entertainment
supple bear
campfires also work but spawn proofing your entire render range is a daunting task
we
hard sluice
i'm having a bad intrusive thought... i want to ride the 'end of the world' wind back to my base... with the loot from the Queen.... thats such a bad idea...
supple bear
we're talking like hundreds of benches probably
thorny lake
Have some spikes or tame boars manage the inflow. But nothing is wrong with few ...
yea prob will just let em spawn tbh, they’re no harm to me or my townmates and are only nice boxing bags
fossil delta
leveling your benches increase their range, so a lvl5 work bench has a pretty big coverage area.
thorny lake
we're talking like hundreds of benches probably
My town isn’t too large and it’s got a good wall around it so probably wouldnt be more than 5-10 workbenches to completely block spawns in the town
thorny lake
leveling your benches increase their range, so a lvl5 work bench has a pretty b...
ooh thats good to know
spark dew
i never heard of bench level increasing radius....
green reef
some youtubes about it
supple bear
artisan benches have the most range
fossil delta
i never heard of bench level increasing radius....
Been a thing since the beginning, I think. Its worked that way for years, at least.
supple bear
you probably only need like 2-3 of them to cover your base if thats all you care about
moder drops enough for quite a few artisan tables
thorny lake
btw will the new thisthle and dandelion decoration stay in the game or are they only limited to being built on Valheims birthday?
last wadi
i never heard of bench level increasing radius....
it does, I think each addon is like 15m? radius for the crafting bench and 20m? radius per upgrade on the forge
supple bear
the forge radius level ups idk about the workbench
but the artisan bench still has the most range
and requires no upgrades
thorny lake
either way ima prob not spawnblock the little part of the town that spawns greylings now n then
foggy glacier
Been a thing since the beginning, I think. Its worked that way for years, at lea...
It's true, however I found something unusual recently. When you render in a chunk again, apparently the radius briefly shrinks back to original before the upgradesload in. That can cause spawns inside your 'spawnproof' area if you're depending on the expanded radius.
fossil delta
it does, I think each addon is like 15m? radius for the crafting bench and 20m? ...
I don't know, I just know eventually the bench and forge in my house usually ends up covering my entire, rather large base.
supple bear
greylings should really be a threat especially if you have fires
foggy glacier
it does, I think each addon is like 15m? radius for the crafting bench and 20m? ...
Max radius for any bench is about 40m, I think 38 for max workbench and 39 for the forge.
thorny lake
hasnt been any threat so far unless ive been building for half an hour and hasnt eaten chilling on 25hp lol
fossil delta
It's true, however I found something unusual recently. When you render in a chun...
I am not actually surprised by that little "glitch". Been suspecting it for a long time now.
supple bear
38 for the forge (fully upgraded) and 40 for the artisan table
if you space those out you can probably cover most bases
unless its like a to-scale replica of helms deep
fossil delta
38 for the forge (fully upgraded) and 40 for the artisan table
So my entire current base should be covered too. I'm using a Draugr village for the first time, so a little bit bigger than my usual.
supple bear
yeah unless its a mcmanshion you should be fine with just a forge for the most part
thorny lake
if you space those out you can probably cover most bases
my base is a whole town, but it seems like we’ve got most covered since most houses has a workbench in it
fossil delta
Well, the Draugr Village buildings are not small, not the two main ones, plus its like, 8 buildings total, and rather spread out.
supple bear
you could probably cover that entire thing with 2 artisan tables
thorny lake
why use a draugr village instead of building your own village?
supple bear
because its easier lol
fossil delta
why use a draugr village instead of building your own village?
IT was there, in a good location. so why not? Saves time and mats, too.
thorny lake
valdi tho ngl, was a pretty neat looking village, saw my first one today
supple bear
kill out the homeless bums and its free real estate
sleek mauve
is there a way to respawn bosses like the queen?
fossil delta
is there a way to respawn bosses like the queen?
Yes.
supple bear
you dont need to resummon her like other bosses i dont think
thorny lake
I just love the building aspect and the way I unlock more and more to upgrade the town I live in, makes it feel like I’m actually a viking in an upcoming growing town
supple bear
soldier trophies have a use lol
sleek mauve
well i accidentally killed her with the kill all command, cuz after loosing the boat there would have been no easy way to get back. and i ended up killing her -.-
sleek mauve
thank you
fossil delta
If you decide to use trophies, the altar is all the way at the top, iirc.
worn steeple
you dont need to resummon her like other bosses i dont think
You need to sacrifice 3 seeker soldier trophies at her altar every time
pliant hatch
There's two more altars out there where she's spawned already.
Might as well save yourself the time getting the Soldier trophies and instead look for one of the other two spawnpoints.
spark dew
weird, now none of my beds / work stations work because they dont register having roofs. This game is getting buggy quick, whatever they did to fix FPS clearly broke everything else
supple bear
I thought she just respawned but since they used commands to kill her on accident using commands to respawn her is probably fine
fossil delta
You need to sacrifice 3 seeker soldier trophies at her altar every time
Is it seeker? I seem to recall it being the much harder to get soldier trophies.
worn steeple
Seeker soldier, the nasty ones (with sensitive bums) yes
foggy glacier
I thought she just respawned but since they used commands to kill her on acciden...
She does not. the trophies are required to summon her again in a location already visited.
supple bear
Thats kind of annoying, at least theres no real reason to fight her more than once
fossil delta
Seeker soldier, the nasty ones (with sensitive bums) yes
OK, then we are saying the same thing.
supple bear
if you need seeker meat plenty spawns in the plains at night lol
the plains is pretty wild at night you got bugs fight bears, blobs fighting bugs, green boys fighting bears
Its more hecktic than ashlands
fossil delta
The mines respawn every so often as well. Including seekers, soldiers, etc...
supple bear
I knew the royal jelly and stuff in the mines respawned
never seen enemies do it though, maybe it takes way longer
those little seekers from the eggs come back
fossil delta
Its everything, except cores and seal pieces.
supple bear
How many hours does it take to respawn then lol
pliant hatch
4
fossil delta
Broken wood doors etc... don't come back, nor do the stone doors close again.
supple bear
I guess that makes sense, once i get more cores i basically never go inside those things again
fossil delta
So everything can just run out at you all at once, if the mine is set up that way.
thorny lake
Is there any good way to get a lot of resin other than having one of them greydwarf farms
oblique zinc
Thats kind of annoying, at least theres no real reason to fight her more than on...
Unless you play with mods, there are some killer things that you can make using Queens trophy. Plus great decoration
supple bear
Is there any good way to get a lot of resin other than having one of them greydw...
Not really, thats the best source of it by far
thorny lake
whats the second best source lol
oblique zinc
Is there any good way to get a lot of resin other than having one of them greydw...
Keep chopping trees, never seem to have enough wood
fossil delta
Is there any good way to get a lot of resin other than having one of them greydw...
Not that I am aware of. Cut down tons of the young trees is a decent way.
worn steeple
Its funny, from December 2022 I have no clue how many Infested Mines Ive done, and still I find mines that looks different with layouts from anything ive done before. Also something to love about this game. The ongoing "wow" effect.
supple bear
you dont need to make a spawner farm though
you can just kill the dwarves yourself as they spawn
just dont hit the nest
thats the second fastest method
the third fastest method is just existing in the black forest
thorny lake
Best method for me byfar has been pullin out the stagbreaker and going through meadows slamming down small trees but sometimes its just not giving much at all
fossil delta
Its funny, from December 2022 I have no clue how many Infested Mines Ive done, a...
Yeah, the mines do have a wide range of various lay outs.
supple bear
committing genocide against grewdwarves in one form or another is like the top 5 methods
plus you get wood and stone
fossil delta
committing genocide against grewdwarves in one form or another is like the top 5...
Thats why the spawner farms seem to be so popular, all that at once.
supple bear
They dont want to make one though, you can still just camp a nest. They spawn pretty slow
thorny lake
will look into how to make one of these farms even though i dont like to lookup things, got it shown by accident so why not use the knowledge if ive already learnt abt it ig
thorny lake
not a fan of afk’ing thats all, so might as well just find one of the spawners and kill em
supple bear
yeah unless you need like thousands of resin for some reason
just spend 10 minutes killing them at a a spawner youll get plenty
thorny lake
I like to provide my town with resources and love to gather tons of resources, so a thousand of resin is 100% needed
fossil delta
They produce up to 3 until you start killing. Varies as to what you get, including starred versions.
supple bear
If thats the case then yeah you're better off making a greydwarf farm
what is resin even used for you need that much of it though
i know fire arrows but what else........?
thorny lake
If i’m gathering a resource, i ain’t quitting until i’ve filled a chest or two depending on how much the resource is used🫡
fossil delta
Mostly light sources.
thorny lake
what is resin even used for you need that much of it though
fire arrows and keeping the town lit
supple bear
isnt there a free lightsource
the mistlands one
it never runs out or has to be refuelled
fossil delta
I think only the Karve needs it, boat wise.
foggy glacier
there's also the faerie lights now.
thorny lake
I have yet to enter the mistlands nor seen it
supple bear
The dverger lantern things arent free light?
foggy glacier
The dverger lantern things arent free light?
they are.
thorny lake
there's also the faerie lights now.
those are real nice but dont provide much light
supple bear
Theres always surtling trophies on item stands
foggy glacier
those are real nice but dont provide much light
you need to get into swamp. Iron will expand your selection of light sources.
fossil delta
Yeah, not a fan of the light those lanterns give off. Too subdued.
foggy glacier
and you can always use campfires/bonfires.
thorny lake
you need to get into swamp. Iron will expand your selection of light sources.
Ive had iron for a while now, mainly using the copper wall torches tho
foggy glacier
Ive had iron for a while now, mainly using the copper wall torches tho
green burning/blue burning iron torches.
supple bear
i mean if you want to farm all that resin to burn sconces be my guest, make a good greydwarf farm
fossil delta
there's also the faerie lights now.
The Thistle does not give off that good of light, imo. Better than nothing, though.
thorny lake
green burning/blue burning iron torches.
I prefer the normal fire light, and gathering copper for lights is way easier than iron
supple bear
You play on a server thats running 24/7?
thorny lake
nah only when I host it
supple bear
I forget you even have to refuel things sometimes cuz i only play single player XD
fossil delta
Plus the iron can only be put on floors. Well, I suppose you can use other bases for them.
supple bear
the oven is like the only thing i ever have to refill
thorny lake
Things lose fuel very slowly, but they still lose fuel, so nice to have a lot laying around
supple bear
All power to you
Save yourself hours of pain and suffering and make a greydwarf farm
fossil delta
Yeah, the copper ones do burn pretty slow.
supple bear
im not sure if you can make that brazier that doesnt break though
or loses durability really slowly anyway
fossil delta
The floor braziers? You buy those, or find them.
supple bear
its been a long time i know you cant use the big firepits anymore
theres a new meta for burning them
or you can use summons but you need mistlands for that
thorny lake
or you can use summons but you need mistlands for that
time will tell on that one
cant wait to see what the mistlands is like
supple bear
you could afk there with like 2 skeletons and it would be fine
just dont use rangers
thorny lake
only seen like 3 photos so far where its mostly just mist and trees lol
supple bear
I'm sure you'll love the biome just like everyone else!
fossil delta
only seen like 3 photos so far where its mostly just mist and trees lol
It is best to go in with the Yag drop. IMO, anyways.
supple bear
Absolutely nothing but perfection when it comes to mistlands 😏
thorny lake
and my mate with 600+ hours is terrified of it so very much lookin forward to the experience
thorny lake
It is best to go in with the Yag drop. IMO, anyways.
dont know what that is
fossil delta
dont know what that is
You will find out, eventually.
supple bear
You way ahead of this guys progress lol
thorny lake
supple bear
someones gotta do it
thorny lake
farming resources is so satisfying too
to just be stocked up on whatever you need for a while
supple bear
I will say this unless its stone wood or iron
you probably need a lot less of it than you think you do
even if you're playing with a bunch of people
thorny lake
my mates have barely every said they’re lacking anything other than new metals we’ve just unlocked or things like that, which I find calming and nice
fossil delta
I do most of the resource gathering for my wife and I. I'm retired, she still works. So I have the time for it.
supple bear
also as you progress through the game you unlock way better methods
for example there are ways to get hundreds of stone for almost no effort in the plains
thorny lake
yeah been learning things myself so far which has made some farming methods a lot easier and faster
like carrying portal mats on me for wood farming and just going back n fourth to my storage to throw of wood rather than getting a cart and dragging it back n fourth
supple bear
portal mats, foods, metals, stone, wood. All things you will likely need in bulk
dandilions...... not so much
you dont need 3 chests full of bones either 😛
thorny lake
and then when i figured out u can bring a stone cutter to the stone structures to tear em down def changed our town with introducing a lot more stone to it haha
thorny lake
you dont need 3 chests full of bones either 😛
only got one chest so far and ive yet to figure out what bone is used for😭
rotund parrot
Stone, other than some crafting things, is only used for buildings so it isn't really necessary
fossil delta
I usually have a never ending need for stone. 😄 😄 Think I saved enough from all the mining, etc... but NOPE! Need even more.
supple bear
they're used for an armor set, some projectiles, and as fuel for an end game item
thorny lake
Stone, other than some crafting things, is only used for buildings so it isn't r...
Me n my mates build A LOT so stone is def very necessary
supple bear
The greydwarf farm will provide you with all the stone you ever need
thorny lake
Will def invest my time into making that
supple bear
Loot does despawn though
you have to make sure you loot like every 30m
youll hit a world cap
thorny lake
even with a workbench nearby? or will that disable the spawning from the spawner too
supple bear
iirc theres a cap on how many items can be on the ground
any items dropped after that point are auto deleted
thorny lake
ah alright
supple bear
its quite a high number, in the thousands
fossil delta
iirc theres a cap on how many items can be on the ground
Its a pretty high cap, then. I've let my pits get knee deep in greydwarf mats.
foggy glacier
Loot will clump first though. It's fun when I'm training at a greydwarf or draugr farm watching stuff clump to 50s
supple bear
they consolidate first
fossil delta
Wood and stone do, don't think eyes or resin ever has.
supple bear
i forget what the golden rule is, its in all those old greydwarf farm videos
30 minutes sounds right to me
thorny lake
still got so much im looking forward to learn and discover in this game
foggy glacier
Wood and stone do, don't think eyes or resin ever has.
I've seen intestines and even trophies consolidate at my draugr farm.
fossil delta
I've seen intestines and even trophies consolidate at my draugr farm.
I never have. Guess you let more than a couple of hundred lie there, then.
supple bear
still got so much im looking forward to learn and discover in this game
Well dont forget to explore a bit too rather than just being the resource guy
foggy glacier
I never have. Guess you let more than a couple of hundred lie there, then.
yeah, quite a bit more.
I had to buy another thunder stone to get rid of it all.
foggy glacier
but I'm not one.
fossil delta
I'd rather get some coal out of it.
supple bear
Pfft coal
thorny lake
Well dont forget to explore a bit too rather than just being the resource guy
yeah nah I do lots of other things than just gather resources, I’m just the main gatherer when it comes to everyday needed things, def done a lot of exploration, building, fighting and messing around tho :)
supple bear
This game is grindy as heck with just one person if you play it the inteded way
cunning geyser
@pale wedge Can I join you guys?
supple bear
you have way more patience than me
i probably dont even make 3/4 of the items in this game
bare minimum spartan lifestyle
fossil delta
Of course, this time, for the first time ever, I've filled up a BM chest with coal. 😄 Having 36 bee hives helped a lot with that.
rotund parrot
Finished the game in less than 40 hours doing it the normal way, while getting armor from all biomes along the way
spark dew
well the game crashed and took my computer with it. This new update seems to be very unstable, at least for me and my friends
thorny lake
This game is grindy as heck with just one person if you play it the inteded way
I’ve got 2 mates I play with, barely ever play alone and usually only when they both can play, but we’ve been playing it very slowly and smoothly since it’s both me and another’s first playthrougj, then the other dude has 600+ hours and has guided us well without spoiling anything
supple bear
Ive never played with other people. I'm sure the combat is easier but the grind is just triple.
thorny lake
We’re on day 214 so far in the world and we’ve only beaten Moder but are getting close to being ready for the skeleton dude
rotund parrot
combat is much harder with other people
supple bear
I dont understand how thats even possible
rotund parrot
latency
supple bear
Dark souls becomes a joke with other people because split aggro is op
If its laggy AF then ok sure but thats a problem with the netcode not he difficulty lol
Im surprised its really that bad still
thorny lake
Ive never played with other people. I'm sure the combat is easier but the grind ...
It is more of a grind, but it’s a lot more fun and efficient with 2 more people to help gather, carry and spot n explore
supple bear
It's been awful since day 1
fossil delta
This game steps them up for the first 5 people, after that your group gets all the advantage.
rotund parrot
depends who has the chunk loaded and if he is far away, got a good setup
cunning geyser
@sudden delta Can I join you guys?
supple bear
OTK tried to do a pvp tournament when valheim came out
but it was so hilariously laggy it was pointless
literally 5 second delays
rotund parrot
So you can understand how it's possibly harder
supple bear
Its not harder though lol
cunning geyser
oh okay
fossil delta
Yeah, you still need to be careful with who the chunk master is.
supple bear
Your connection is just trash
rotund parrot
ok
supple bear
you would easily win if the connection was stable
fossil delta
Its not necessarily the connections, its whose system the server is using for the resources.
supple bear
Having to compensate for 5 second lag doesnt add difficulty to the game it just makes it clunky and annoying
I am curious why its so bad though, arent these dedicated servers?
Other survival games dont lag like that on dedicated
muted elm
modded players - yall having issues since new patch? im assuming the mods need to be updated and just havent yet but was curious
foggy glacier
modded players - yall having issues since new patch? im assuming the mods need t...
Modders always need a bit of time to catch up to new updates.
fossil delta
Servers still use your computer for thee resources it needs. So when your multiple people, one of you becomes what is called a "Chunk Master". So if that system is a potato system, serious lag issues ensue.
Its why its better if you use an old, decent system of yours, as your server.
thorny lake
So you can understand how it's possibly harder
never experienced lag with 3 players ngl
and we’ve all been split apart by thousands of meters at a time sometimes
cunning geyser
@abstract kayak HELLO!
fossil delta
never experienced lag with 3 players ngl
LUCKY! Do you use a paid server?
thorny lake
nope just a privately hosted one
rotund parrot
It's never an issue when you are spread far apart
cunning geyser
you got a server we gonna play?
supple bear
Seems like a pain for no real benefit other than just playing with your buddies
thorny lake
never had any issue at all every in my almost 100 hours of playing with 2 others
fossil delta
nope just a privately hosted one
OK, then, refer to what I just said above. Your own server is best.
rotund parrot
just when close together and it highly depends on who you play around but it doesn't take much if you play on higher difficulty for you to miss a parry and get punished hard
supple bear
Probably why its so hard to find random people to play with
rotund parrot
You just assume it's extremely bad when nobody said so
The 5 seconds is incredibly stupid
supple bear
Even 1-2 seconds lag is pretty bad
Either way i disagree with lagging being difficulty.
cunning geyser
@abstract kayak oh okie dokie
rotund parrot
How about a mage blasting fireball in your face as you try to fight something?
supple bear
I would be that mage
fossil delta
My favorite lag is when everyone stretches like rubber bands.
rotund parrot
Worst is when the attack animation of the mobs lag
That makes it so difficulty to time parry or dodge, even if you just time it with the sound
fossil delta
When everything starts walking up into the air is another favorite.
supple bear
Summoning people or NPCs in dark souls/elden ring turns the game into a complete joke. And those games are way harder than valheim
They also don't lag in multiplayer that much thoguh
Ive definately gravelorded some people on north sentinal island before dont get me wrong
rotund parrot
If you play with people living close to you with good pc, lag wont be noticeable at all
supple bear
If thats true then yeah it would definately be easier
thorny lake
never noticed any sort of lag ever tbh other than our boat going almost completely underwater during a storm once
supple bear
The lag was the hole argument for multiplayer being harder
rotund parrot
Doesn't really change much and it its still harder since you get hit harder
supple bear
If theres no lag then i dont see how it could be harder
more people just adds more health and damage to the mobs right?
fossil delta
If you play with people living close to you with good pc, lag wont be noticeable...
I've played with people all over the world, Europe to South America to Australia. It can get pretty crazy. Most of the time it was just fine.
rotund parrot
if there's someone else I still need to fight many things 1 on 1 they are just harder
supple bear
no additional moves or mechanics?
thorny lake
If theres no lag then i dont see how it could be harder
I think enemies get stronger with more players being close to it?
foggy glacier
more people just adds more health and damage to the mobs right?
Yes.
supple bear
Then as ive said many times before it doesnt matter if a mob does 1 damage or 1 billion if it never hits you anyway lol
thorny lake
Things seem a lot stronger when i’m grouped up rather than take it on alone at least
foggy glacier
which can be troubling if you're the one outside your base fighting and everyone else is sitting behind the walls.
supple bear
Yeah most games just give enemies more hp/damage for groups
V Rising does the same thing, you can troll people pretty hard as a rat
like a literal rat, you transform and hide to make the boss stronger lol
rotund parrot
I'd say it makes boss on normal and hard difficulty easier as they don't hit that hard and you got much more damage coming in but for most enemies it will be harder
thorny lake
playing with 2 others who are eager to get into battle does make stealth rather impossible sadly but stealth hasnt been that satisfying in valheim anyways
rotund parrot
bosses are such a small part of the time you spend playing the game though
supple bear
I mean bosses and enemies in dark souls get more health for each additional person too
its an incredibly common mechanic
Thats one of the reasons gravelording was a trolls wet dream. It literally just turns the enemies in their world into like super saiyan versions of themselves XD
thorny lake
really do wanna checkout a server with randoms sometime after ive gotten finished with the game since i doubt my mates will play as much after that
good thing idm some lag if there is
supple bear
If i tried playing with randoms i would be banned
thorny lake
had times with lag for a long time where it almost cant get worse and i managed
thorny lake
If i tried playing with randoms i would be banned
why😭
green reef
so to up the no-map, no-portal challenge, only boat allowed is raft.
thorny lake
only know it exists cus the skill is there lol
green reef
basically im going to tech skip the first 5 biomes
run naked into the mists and do what?
supple bear
gotta make a pit stop in the swamp first
spark dew
okay now i relaunched game after it crashed and my inventory duped
paper marsh
run naked into the mists and do what?
Get some black cores, primarily
I think some people have played on only-mistlands worlds
foggy glacier
how do you get the marble?
supple bear
forced labor
green reef
how do you make a bed. lol
paper marsh
Marble is pretty easy, you don’t even necessarily need mobs to mine it (tjough thats probably the fastest)
You can mine marble with your bare fists
supple bear
Doesnt marble also drop from rogues?
foggy glacier
You also need Ygdrassil wood for the black forge. that requires bm axe
supple bear
im pretty sure something drops marble in the mistlands
foggy glacier
im pretty sure something drops marble in the mistlands
the dvergr do.
supple bear
i mean good luck fighting that naked
foggy glacier
exactly, right.
supple bear
you're a better man than me
green reef
you could get a seeker soldier to mine all kinds of things for you. but naked and blind half the time. no ability to get more wood if you run out. challenging.
supple bear
the solider can break everything
supple bear
Everyone thought mistlands was gonna be a spider biome before it came out
green reef
well, they changed it
rotund parrot
My guess is everyone on the server would reach the mistlands naturally before you could even make a black forge
thorny lake
Everyone thought mistlands was gonna be a spider biome before it came out
that woulda been either hella sick or or horrible
supple bear
truly glorious times
You underestimate my resolve
and the fact im going to use a seed viewer to see where the mistlands is
ive done it a few times before it really doesnt take that long to rush a crossbow
its not necessarily an amazing weapon to use early game though lol
rotund parrot
I've read what you wrote around here, I know you like to use shortcuts, I've played with people like that, that's why people use server character
rotund parrot
Doesn't allow people to cheat
supple bear
I assumed that was already the case
How would it stop me from biome skipping
Thats not cheating lol
rotund parrot
It wouldn't
supple bear
Like i said i would probably be banned
rotund parrot
It would stop you from spawning it on another server and switching back though
supple bear
That doesn't really matter in this situation
rotund parrot
Just explaining the mod
supple bear
Most people probably dont want people who skip massive chunks of progression in their world
Doesnt that screw with everyone anyway
what if i go bonfire cheese yag will everyone get fulings in the meadows 🤔
rotund parrot
That would be in the forest at night
rotund parrot
Yeah also the mountain apparently
supple bear
they dont spawn in the mountains or ashlands so not most
or they do spawn in the mountains?
But yeah couldnt i be mean and just go kill queen so everyone gets bugs at night and those stupid spawner raids
queen is one of the easier cheese in the game
rotund parrot
People who host servers will have rules on progression that people are usually respectful enough to abide by or avoid playing on the server if they don't intend to
supple bear
Im going to take that as a yes
This is why i dont play online, i wouldnt be able to resist lol
green reef
so what's this mistlands challenge? you run around crazy until you find mistlands then run around blind until you find dvrgr camps and dungeons and collect stuff?
supple bear
i think theres a mod that makes the entire map mistlands
But yeah you can make mistlands gear and stuff without killing any bosses
anything that requires black metal, like gauldr table, is off the table
supple bear
I typed root harnesk into youtube and got a 4 year old result 😭
tough mulch
Mistlands with no wisp light is Actually not that bad
supple bear
Just go above the mist
tough mulch
No no, just go in blind with zoomed in camera
supple bear
Yeah you can still see decently well without the light but going above the mist is the best way to find POIs at a distance
tough mulch
Dvgr camps or i fested mines have those wisp lanterns you can spot then easy, and sound is nore important than sight
supple bear
it just sucks when you blind run into a ruined tower with 5 bugs in it
shy marlin
yea that's where listening comes in tho
supple bear
The root harnesk will save you though
tough mulch
Yeah you can still see decently well without the light but going above the mist ...
I go like going above the clouds without a feather falling cloak or some meads leap foot or ratatosk
tough mulch
I dont craft them either, takes too long
Besides as a certified cheeser potions dont me at all
supple bear
Ive found that for games like this its a lot like distortion on a guitar
The less you can get away with the better
tough mulch
You kinda lost me there
supple bear
yeah theres a lot of optional power boosts you can get in this game
i ignore virtually all of them
tough mulch
A fellow skipper? How far can you skip
supple bear
Im too lazy to even press my elder power most of the time
I mean i can skip as much as you want
Stone portals before a boss is very time consuming though
tough mulch
Aside from eityr and moder and queen all other bosses are optional
supple bear
casually i just use troll armor until the plains and then start using a root harnesk
strange reef
my pig farm died again! thats twice in one day! =/
tough mulch
I like early root harness
Its so useful, since I skip straight to mistlands the moment I get 20 black metal
supple bear
Probably the most advanced skip is the stone portal one. Early mistlands can be equally time consuming sometimes
strange reef
a cold wind blows from the mountain 😤
supple bear
really just depends. Ive gotten up to 10 cores in a single dungeon before but it had 2 of those rare prefabs in it that have like 4 each
tough mulch
Probably the most advanced skip is the stone portal one. Early mistlands can be ...
I got early stone before mistlands before
supple bear
The stone pillar bossless is just time consuming AF because of all the pillar hopping
tough mulch
But my method was inefficient
Lol thats what I did, I was pillar hopping with no feather cloak and simming my way there
tough mulch
my pig farm died again! thats twice in one day! =/
Ever consider maybe in door pig farm?
Everytime i swim in the ashlands and the heat built up too much I had to log out to reset status effect
It was.... extremely time consuiming, but early stone portal was too good to pass up
supple bear
Lol thats what I did, I was pillar hopping with no feather cloak and simming my ...
you can get lucky with really close shorelines to the ocean border. I've seen some close enough to make it on a karve before it dies
but if you have to pillar hop a good ways its miserable AF
tough mulch
I wasnt, it was far
supple bear
you would have to like check a seed viewer to see if any coast was close enough
tough mulch
My newer play through involves full map already explored since im not in a server anymore
tough mulch
you would have to like check a seed viewer to see if any coast was close enough
I was going in blind since it was a friendgroup server
supple bear
I just play on seeds with massive continents that all have all the bosses but fader on them these days
I've already explored enough black forests over the past 5 years
tough mulch
I just play on seeds with massive continents that all have all the bosses but fa...
Noice noice, for me I switched to nomadic playstyle for the time being, see how minimal I can take everything with me goes
supple bear
That's how ive always palyed
Its gotten....... a lot harder due to the huge volume of bench upgrades
you used to be able to carry basically everything you need on you with the strength belt. Not anymore. Not by a long shot
tough mulch
Man better wagons would be nice for inland trips
supple bear
Thing is though, all you really need to do is find a place where a swamp, tall mountain, and large plains meet
mistlands doesnt really have anything you need to teleport back to your base
and in ashlands you get stone portals
supple bear
your taps and eitr refinery need black metal
so you have to bring that with you, but eitr is teleportable
tough mulch
Where there is plains, there is probably a mistland besides
supple bear
you cant teleport the dverger thing you need for taps but im not sure if anything else is even restricted from that biome
tough mulch
You dont really need to tp them out though...
They are only useful in the mistlands to begin with
supple bear
Nope, you just need to bring a decent amount of blackmetal with you the first time
enough for the eitr refinery and a few taps
tough mulch
2 extractor is enough for me
supple bear
i also transition to mage build in mistlands
and you need quite a lot of sap to make upgrade everything
once you suck them dry they only regenerate like 1-2 a day so you have to move them around a lot
tough mulch
Lvl1 is good enough, save everything for ashland gear
supple bear
eitr weave really isnt that bad all things considered
tough mulch
I dont like how it looks
supple bear
you could skip upgrading the armor set but the staffs are pretty much manditory
tough mulch
But carapice armor looks bad as well....
supple bear
If i were going to use melee armor i would just stick with padded until the ashlands
fully upgraded padded is just fine in the mistlands and early ashlands
tough mulch
I run hybrid sets
Honestly fenris leggings is mandatory for me to offset any ms reduction when wearing other armor down the line
supple bear
root harnesk is pretty op but what else do you do thats hybrid
tough mulch
root harnesk is pretty op but what else do you do thats hybrid
Fenris legging + everything else
glass edge
Really hard to go from fenris to anything that slows you, haha
supple bear
Just dont use it and you wont get used to the speed 😛
tough mulch
Just dont use it and you wont get used to the speed 😛
Too late for me
Ive already touched the forbidden fruit
supple bear
Im a troll armor enthusiast for like the first 5 biomes
glass edge
The new vilebone set I really wished had been released when I was progging through plains
supple bear
it gets almost 50 armor fully upgraded
thats like on par with base iron
heck eitr weave doesnt even have much more than that does it
nope its 49 base lol
Full upgraded troll armor has more armor than base eitr weave 😒
tough mulch
Lol
glass edge
Tbf, the staff of protection is greater than flametal flat armour
Makes eitr weave the goat
supple bear
The staff of protection is effectively infinite HP
as long as you have eitr you cant die
tough mulch
Max lvl100 blood magic 700hp go brrr
supple bear
i can only imagine how long it would take to grind that
even with the blob/twig thing blood magic is slow AF
supple bear
yeah i rarely go over like 50 in any skill during an entire run
i dont even care about skills except getting like the first 30 levels or so in blood magic
glass edge
Yeah, 4 skeletons let loose in an early biome really grind those levels
glass edge
Oh really?
supple bear
thats the fastest way ive found to level blood magic but you have to stay in range of the skeletons so they dont follow you
tough mulch
700 does not include armor or resistant, it still pops frequently in ashlands
glass edge
Thought they didnt aggro onto twig
supple bear
Skeletons wont attack twig directly
you put a blob in a hole behind twig and trap it so it cant get out
tough mulch
Slime behind twig however
glass edge
Oh, haha, sneaky, I love it
tough mulch
Theres a tutorial about it in yt
supple bear
I can not be caged
using that method it only takes like 20 minutes or so to get to level 30
but after level 50 skills slow down a lot
glass edge
Will offset my flametal ore greed leading to skill drops from lava diving
tough mulch
Its a 1% chance of triggering these days
supple bear
Best part about being a mage in ashlands is you only need 11 flametal bars
and you get that from one fort chest
easily
glass edge
Staff of the wild and prot staff are criminally cheap given their power
tough mulch
Mage is very op, but I love my berserkir axe and my adopted crossbow
supple bear
Staff of the wild is pretty much the best weapon in the game
and the staff of protection is the best armor in the game
glass edge
Slap slap
tough mulch
I dont take staff of the wild unless im cheesing fader
supple bear
I mean it doesnt do the highest damage
but it literally roots things, wihich for most enemies is effectively a full stun
and you can spam like 5-6 of them in one spot
tough mulch
Oh... Which staff does more dmg?
supple bear
Probably the fire staff if we count tick damage?
tough mulch
I just need one to down fader hp as fast as possible
tough mulch
I thought fract dmg was sht though?
supple bear
It is lol
shy marlin
it's good if you can hit all of the projectiles and the enemy has to be kinda big
glass edge
Burning is meh in ashlands
supple bear
Even if you hit every pellet its still worse than the fire staff
shy marlin
but yea in ash pretty garbo
glass edge
Dps wise, yeah
tough mulch
Does fader have fire resist? That just means im still taking wilds
supple bear
pretty sure hes straight up immune to fire
paper marsh
Burning is meh in ashlands
why?
tough mulch
pretty sure hes straight up immune to fire
Damn no firestaff for my fader fights then
supple bear
wild staff destroys him
shy marlin
staff of frost is alright against fader too
supple bear
turns the fight into a complete joke
paper marsh
Cause most of them resist it, lol
What does burning specifically refer to, just fire damage? Or staff of embers or what?
shy marlin
use it if you can't wilds because of the fissure
tough mulch
wild staff destroys him
It does it does but it still takes a while
glass edge
Fire as dmg type
tough mulch
My new cheese is effectively me standing still throwing sht at him and boi is he tanky
paper marsh
Yeah that I can agree with
supple bear
i mean the fastest way to kill him is probably max melee stats and a 2h sword
the easiest way to kill him is def wild staff
paper marsh
2h sword? Why not something like berserkir thundering axes
paper marsh
I'd expect axes to be more overall damage, but tbh it's been a while since I've melee'd him (or fought him at all) so I dunno about the timings on axes vs sword against him
shy marlin
without giga cheese blood axes are technically the fastest
supple bear
you dont need aoe in that fight because fader kills everything with his ground move that follows you
tough mulch
Problem with melee is that its incompatible with cheese
paper marsh
without giga cheese blood axes are technically the fastest
That sounds right. Especially with berserkir mead and ask armor now
tough mulch
without giga cheese blood axes are technically the fastest
Blood axe????
paper marsh
Problem with melee is that its incompatible with cheese
atgeir would like to have a word (in general, not in reference to Fader)
tough mulch
Not thunder
shy marlin
yea, run start the fight with no food, eat 3 hp foods as fader comes in, get sneak attack in with blood gs, then swap to blood axes
paper marsh
I mean blood axe gets over +60% damage, doesn't it?
Pretty good
shy marlin
can get him in like 1 min 30 sec if you really grind rng
supple bear
"melee is incompatable with cheese" meanwhile some of the oldest cheese strats are digging underground where a boss cant hit you and repairing a wooden club 50 times
tough mulch
For the fader fight
supple bear
the bonemass ancient tree cheese - "am i a joke to you"
glass edge
Hah, demolisher in the entrance of the Queen fight
tough mulch
"melee is incompatable with cheese" meanwhile some of the oldest cheese strats a...
Also isnt the club cheese a bonemass one
supple bear
queen has a lot cheeses
tough mulch
I dont recall the underground part
supple bear
poor lass
paper marsh
I dont recall the underground part
def a thing with yag altar
little quiver
what if my buddy doesn't back up his character if he joins?
supple bear
you could club cheese any boss
glass edge
More fun climbing the stairs!
supple bear
but yeah yag was huge for speedruns back when plains was final biome
tough mulch
def a thing with yag altar
Thought this one was bonfire
supple bear
they just club him to death from below
shy marlin
Also isnt the club cheese a bonemass one
yea, workbench and put 2 2m floors above your head and you line of sight bonemass, he'll be right next to ya but can't hit ya
supple bear
people use bonfires now yeah
paper marsh
Thought this one was bonfire
I'm sure there's multiple cheeses
supple bear
especially for moder
tough mulch
Oh ic
supple bear
the bonemass cheese was going inside of an indestructable ancient tree and spamming demolisher or stag breaker
tough mulch
You can go inside the skull
supple bear
with a chair ?
tough mulch
Yeap
supple bear
you can get inside the trees without glitching
glass edge
Moder feels buggy even after the fix, fists made short work of her
tough mulch
Im alreafy bringing the chair with me when im swamp anyways
I kill bonemass first before elder, and even then killing him is optional
supple bear
I mean you're addicted to the fenrir set anyway right
theres iron in frost casves
like actual bars, dont even need to smelt it
glass edge
Yep, smash the braziers
glass edge
Or was it bronze?
tough mulch
I still need alot... this game likes iron a lil too much
glass edge
Def drops metal
tough mulch
Or was it bronze?
The brazier are bronze
supple bear
I mean the average amount of iron you get out of a decent crypt is well over 100
shy marlin
Doors are iron
supple bear
unless you get really unlucky a few crypts should do
unless you're making a to scale replica of helms deep with iron poles
glass edge
unless you're making a to scale replica of helms deep with iron poles
My swamp tree houses require more support
tough mulch
I need iron poles for my fader cheese
supple bear
i dont know how many iron bars those mistlands bridge pieces drop on average
but i think its quite a bit
tough mulch
My swamp tree houses require more support
Me with my base atop crepts be like
glass edge
The discarded armour has all you need in mistlands
supple bear
google says 30-40 bars per pillar
glass edge
Just evict a few dvergr from their homes...
supple bear
and you can find them on the coast pretty easy
tough mulch
Its hard af though, those armor
glass edge
Haven't really played with them yet, do have to use more of those tar growths
supple bear
Most of the time i see a tar pit the blobs are dying to lox or fulings anyway
glass edge
Or pick em off with fire arrows. Also why the fenrir set was so good in plains
glass edge
Yeah, swear lox's have stealth, number of times I've been punted down a valley...
tough mulch
Whats tar even used for besides black metal chests
Furniture and comfort lvls
glass edge
Yeah, building
tough mulch
Oh and the best roof in the game
supple bear
What comfort furniture takes tar
glass edge
Darkwood chairs
tough mulch
Lol mb
supple bear
yeah i see a table and chair and the hottub
tough mulch
But yeah bathtub
glass edge
The non comfort granting wolf and raven head building ornaments
supple bear
i never even make the hottub
tough mulch
yeah i see a table and chair and the hottub
Just table, the chair maxes out in comfort with a raven throne
glass edge
Gotta hot tub on my balcony
supple bear
I only go to 21 minutes of reseted buff
its effectively my clock for time
since a day lasts 21 minutes
supple bear
Not sure I just dont like doing things at night
Especially pre lox cape
I'd rather die than be cold
glass edge
How do you hunt for chains?!
paper marsh
How do you hunt for chains?!
Go to swamp at night, kill wraiths
Can also find some in sunken crypts, but I'd say that's less effective
glass edge
It was rhetorical to Austrian's night aversion, lol
paper marsh
I totally missed the context yea
supple bear
How do you hunt for chains?!
you get a lot of chains from crypts
if you're lucky you get a wraith raid and get all the chains you ever need
fossil delta
I just hang out in swamps at night for a few nights. I usually get at least 3 chains per night. Granted, when I do get that raid, I get 5 to 7 chains. Just that raid doesn't occur all that often.
ripe ocean
anyone newer like i am and want someone to play the game with msg me lol
hard gale
whats the pros thoughts on building in biomes other than meadows? I wanna make a base in black forest, but is that feasible considering trolls n such?
paper marsh
whats the pros thoughts on building in biomes other than meadows? I wanna make a...
Set up a few campfires (or other base items) around the base and they will block mobs from spawning immediately near your base
Once you get better gear you can also more easily deal with trolls or even set up base defenses against them (in fact, many people make earth walls / moats that non-flying mobs can't pass, though I'm not personally a fan of that)
glass edge
Very, mountains is beautiful, mistlands and plains highly recommended for farming
hard gale
yea me too, also not a fan of giant earth walls
glass edge
Swamp will offer the means to protect fairly sturdily vs trolls etc particularly
slow flicker
whats the pros thoughts on building in biomes other than meadows? I wanna make a...
building in any biome is feasible just have to build to accomadate the region
dark coyote
mountains has the least raids, my main base is an island, no spawns
paper marsh
I usually build my main bases in meadows and plains for necessity, but I can't help but to make some fun bases in mistlands and ashlands too for the fun of it
glass edge
Need me mushrooms and sap, mistlands is a must imo!
Barley too, for plains, much more so than flax
paper marsh
Usually for early mistlands farm I just set up a little farm area not a full base.
The full base comes later when I want to have fun with it
glass edge
You can also scout for days and find those edge case tiny biomes within/adjacent to other biomes for diversification
Part of me always loves building in the abandoned structures of bygone eras in each biome
orchid harness
Does anyone pay for a hosted server and are able to run 15-20 mods for around 3-4 people? What sort of specs do you use? Who do you pay to host it?
worn steeple
Does anyone pay for a hosted server and are able to run 15-20 mods for around 3-...
Dathost
orchid harness
Are there different tiers? Which do you use? 15+ mods but only 4 players
gray sand
odd finch
Whey they made grass look like shit with this update :/
alpine sphinx
Ashland coast is a nightmare
flat stag
What exactly allows next level of invasions? Killing a boss or returning its trophy?
idle storm
the kill
flat stag
any idea how to build in the water if I can't dive down to place beams at the bottom of water?
lunar sapphire
Raising the ground with the hoe is a nice method 
flat stag
Nice - but is it worth it building a medium size simple house in the water? Will invasions be easier?
candid basalt
Find an island, raise ground to flesh it out, put spawn blockers like torches/campfires around
next sleet
Hello, anyone know how does structure breaking when lack of support work?
I saw a stone fortress self destructing when I remove it's base.
So I think I can use this mechanism to set up recall portals that breaks with lack of support and going through them very fast to make them one-time use.
But they are not breaking consistently, they somehow turn the floor into blue sometimes, and sometimes the floor just break and the portal remains floating
west mica
That could work I guess
There is a delay
I cant remember exactly, but its like, every few seconds it evaluates the next support piece and decides if to destroy it or not
So its a relatively slow dominos fallling thing
next sleet
Yes I try to make the domino work by extending that floater bridge
west mica
Alternatively, go into the portal with a troll chasing you
They will destroy the portal 1 second after you go through lol
next sleet
But somehow the floor piece can randomly get "based" into blue while they are clearly floating
So I suspect is there such thing as "the game don't check for structure auto breaking when you are far enough"
west mica
I'm not sure if a portal will explode if the peice below it does though?
Its not a load bearing item, I think it might just fall down?
next sleet
It should be, I tried