valheim-chat

[vast jewel]

I am assuming we're getting a UI overhaul.

[thorn citrus]

you know what I don't got the energy nor the vocabulary to talk about that kind of stuff anymore, keep being pissed I guess because they'll do whatever they want and keep working on small updates

[vast jewel]

Dumb take.

[cosmic sail]

Not "instead of". That's common misunderstanding about game development. The assets that needed to be made for this are nil, basically nothing at all, probably took one guy one day while he was waiting for another guy to finish something. The optimizations are part of the Deep North.

[loud harbor]

I really hope so. Honestly just give me armour slots and I'll be happy

[spark sandal]

I spent over 4 hours looking for them if anyone thinks they are too Op it’s probably why they are so ungodly rare, still haven’t found one head lmao

[candid basalt]

This is not my take, read up

[thorn citrus]

I mean yeah but it would change how the progression works, I like the idea but I don't think it fits the game

[vast jewel]

There is no point in updating the game if it runs poorly. Optimisation is a top priority.

[thorn citrus]

I think maybe like yeah one that is craftable with bronze and one that you can find but in the BF and not the meadows, because it kind of becomes the base weapon that everyone'll choose since it's much better than any other weapon from the meadows

[vast jewel]

I hope so too. I don't think armour should be an inventory slot. I'm wearing it, not holding it. What I'm mostly discussing though is how the new emote wheel looks VERY clean compared to every other UI element so it has me thinking.

[idle storm]

So is the Abyssal Razor and you can get that with meadows gear too if you spot an early leviathan near the coast

[spark sandal]

You assume everyone’s gonna be able to just find it. Your mistaken. It’s a fucking unicorn

[tough mulch]

being able to cut finewood in meadows makes alot of sense to me tbh

why can stone axe cut corewood but not birch

[thorn citrus]

really ?

I might not be aware of the rarity

[spark sandal]

Yes I shit you not im over 4 in a half hours in searching for them, new world, all fresh meadows… not one head lmao

[candid basalt]

Yes and Unicorns is a great song by 257ers

[vast jewel]

Honestly the Meadows might have 1 of the best weapons in the game now.

[thorn citrus]

that's right

[tough mulch]

not that rare, honestly those leviathans spawn alot

you can find them in clusters of 3-4 sometimes

[vast jewel]

The dual wielded axes make it pretty easy to kill bigger enemies with trees falling.

[spark sandal]

I’m just happy to be able to get a head start on Ashlands weapon skills (berzikir axes) but don’t trip they feel strong but equally as rare, if you actually find a pair of axe heads early it’s a blessed run.

[candid basalt]

The best part of this update are they fey lights

[thorn citrus]

yeah but after beating the first boss, wich makes your progression more into the BF

in my opinion

[idle storm]

I got mine in under an hour so you may just be unlucky. Or i was very lucky

[spark sandal]

Hmmm 🤔 time will tell I’m off to keep searching

[idle storm]

Abyssal Razor is swamp-tier though, not BF tier.

[thorn citrus]

it scales on axes skill, wich can get improved with every axes so it's not really a "head start on the ashlands" in my opinion

[tough mulch]

I have bad rng so I had to use multiple worlds until I found one where its near spawn, both parts

[buoyant aurora]

hihi

[thorn citrus]

it does gives A LOT of axe skill xp tho

[thorn citrus]

really ?

[spark sandal]

Oh I thought it had a unique skill for duel axes

[thorn citrus]

thought it was kind of in between

[tough mulch]

its pretty good actually, increase atck speed helps in farming axe exp and can be used as a base weapon for twig later

[thorn citrus]

nah but it gives a lot of xp

such as knifes does, because it strikes fast

and since xp is counted with the number of strikes you hit

[vivid obsidian]

when exactly will deepnorth be released???

[tough mulch]

yeah, one more reminder why the crossbow falls behind the bow

[thorn citrus]

I play the atgeir, each level takes ages to get x)

[thorn citrus]

when it's ready

[tough mulch]

as a two handed BA user I feel this pain

[thorn citrus]

haha

well you can xp axe skill with one hand axes

and now you can easily xp with the new early axes

sooo you should be fine

[tough mulch]

I dont go out of my way to exp farm my axe skills lol

only blood magic that thing needs ages

[tough mulch]

if only I can find it

[thorn citrus]

I found it in like

45 minutes in my world

[tough mulch]

what is that holy rng

I ran through 4 worlds today to find it

[thorn citrus]

I mean I'm level 72 in running

[swift cove]

hi

[spark sandal]

Crossbows .5 xp per hit and requiring feathers for every ammo type would like a word. Makes blood magic feel easy to level 😭

[tough mulch]

Im on dev commands with cheats 72 running is not a problem for me lmao

[thorn citrus]

oh

well I must be lucky, I visited like 2-3 islands

I got two "copper" axe heads and one "iron" axe head

[tough mulch]

listen to this, I found the buildings with the commands, that part was easy, but then I have to win the 50/50

I always lose my 50/50

[thorn citrus]

well I must've won all my 50/50

[spark sandal]

I’m pushing 8 bees now no axes imma be a honey nut cereal supplier before I find em

[tough mulch]

lmao

do you know what buildings to look for?

[spark sandal]

Yeah the normal lookin abandoned houses and then that sorta abandoned wood tower kinda deal right

[tough mulch]

same bad luck as me, but hey, atleast you got bees

[spark sandal]

I kinda like them being so rare, makes finding a new meadows exciting even if your say starting the swamp or something

[tough mulch]

I always look for meadows, its the safest build location afterall when on the move

[candid basalt]

I’ll worry about axes next time I start a new world

[frozen fable]

I found my axe heads within my second day

They are pretty busted but I like that

In my opinion they add some fun and a certain level of cool to the early game

[opal shoal]

Audio still bugged in the ashlands for anyone else?

[vernal goblet]

How does finding the axe heads work in an existing world. Do I need to find chests in the meadows that I haven’t looted yet or will they pop into any meadows chest after the update meaning I need to go check previously explored houses

[split adder]

what am i gonna need to bring to the ashlands

[tribal perch]

New, unexplored areas. AFAIK there's no re population for already explored areas.

[foggy glacier]

Your best weapons and armor, lots of mead, and enough materials to quickly set up a portal and shield generator. You'll want a beachhead that's inaccessible to your enemies (think high) like one of the ruined structures.

[vast jewel]

Bare fists run is going well. Onto the third boss.

[echo plaza]

It's not totally fixed yet said Smife. To be continued.

[split adder]

silver swords good in the ashlands right?

[foggy glacier]

yes, against most of the enemies that you'll see.

[idle storm]

pretty much everything except asksvin and dvergr is weak or neutral to spirit iirc

[zinc cedar]

I've got to ask, what were the engine settings changes that has led to like 10 to 20fps improvements in the areas with lots of build pieces / instances? 👀🙏

Great job, but its drove me nuts for years. What ended up being the issue that needed fixing / changing?

[near furnace]

oh god

1000's of things adjusted, fixed, better stuff etc etc

[zinc cedar]

But 10 to 20fps on the maps that were stuck at 15fps is honestly a huge win.

Honestly nothing but props.

[near furnace]

these 2 settings for example

[zinc cedar]

Oh no sorry I meant specifically one of the patch notes mention engine settings being changed to improve performance for many instances

[near furnace]

that to

we have so many performance fixes it's crazy

[zinc cedar]

Thats what im asking. What unity side shenanigans were done. This issue drove me mad for years, as you know haha

Either way honestly well done to the team

[near furnace]

while our external partner does the PS5 conversion for us, they also help us identify places in code that makes the game run better

[chrome badge]

Yay collaborations

[near furnace]

since console players can't just get better hardware. the game needs to run more efficiently instead

[zinc cedar]

🎵 A tale as old as time 🎵

[near furnace]

and also things we report to unity takes months to fix, and then it's fixed and we don't need to do our own workarounds for those issues, giving even better performance

[zinc cedar]

Would your partner be willing to do talks (like how the outer wilds port team did talks) from an academic standpoint?

Either way, as a conciliation question... could you confirm (or not) if, due to the speicifc issues that were solved, there was no way in heck the modders had the access / engine side info to find / solve these issues?

It would bring peace a job we never finished 😭🤣

[near furnace]

I know one of them did actually do a talk before 🤔

but I can explain more in a DM since I don't want to publicly tell stuff about a cool dude on a exterior team 😄

[zinc cedar]

No of course I would welcome it mate. About to go back to the lecture im teaching so take your time and I'll read it later 😁

[tacit crystal]

Yes, but not so bad after patch.

[lone rampart]

I’m excited to cook with the audio fix. Cauldron + hearth + nearby torches and other random environmental sounds made it awful

[candid basalt]

I never really noticed audio issues. Shit I might need to get my hearing checked

[lone rampart]

I’m on the other end of that spectrum. Aural hypersensitivity

[tacit crystal]

It's more noticeable in Ashlands.

Many audio sources at the same time tends to mess them.

[paper marsh]

imo the best melee weapon to enter ashlands with

[candid basalt]

Ah I spend as little time in Ashlands as possible. It’s just a scary source of build materials

[tough mulch]

I must be a weirdo for settling down in the ashlands

[candid basalt]

Yes

[vast jewel]

The Black Forest might be the most awkward biome for the fists only run.

[pure trellis]

can somone give me any tips i bought the game 2 days ago and i can t get cooper or iron i would be thankful for any tips

[shy marlin]

how so

[paper marsh]

nah its a cool place

Well maybe not cool, more hot, but awesome anyways

[vast jewel]

Copper is in the Black Forest. Iron in the Swamp.

[paper marsh]

Go to where you spawned in. Touch red stone. Go to "eikthyr" marker on map. Spawn and kill Eikthyr.

Make pickaxe. Go to black forest to mine copper

[pure trellis]

👍

[vast jewel]

Since I have to beat multiple bears with blunt fist damage until I can craft the first fist weapon that deals slash.

[shy marlin]

is campfire damage banned?

[vast jewel]

Yes.

[pure trellis]

the thing is when i did mine all the cooper (the green think yk what i am talking about) i got nothing and it happens with evry one ore

[tough mulch]

Being able to make an enemy proof base that isnt a fortress brings me great joy

[tough mulch]

Do you have auto pickup on

[shy marlin]

can you use skeletons to hit the bear, and you just punch/roll as the skeletons hit the bear on the other side?

[pure trellis]

yup

[tough mulch]

How about your wieght limit

Is it full

[paper marsh]

Does it say "copper" when you look at the big boulder? Soem rocks are just rocks, not all of it is copper

It will explicitly say the word "Copper" and have kind of a shiny texture

[vast jewel]

Yes as that isn't completely controllable by me.

[shy marlin]

seems better than just fisting them straight up

and i'd argue it's pretty controllable

[paper marsh]

Doing that brings me great sadness 🤣

I like engaging with the world / mobs

[tough mulch]

I prefer throwing them in torture chambers if possible

[vast jewel]

Regulating against it would be almost impossible because AI does its own thing. So I'm allowing it.

[shy marlin]

you could lead the bear to a nearby swamp too ig

[vast jewel]

The thing is, I could make it very easy with the stair exploit but that doesn't seem manly enough.

I want Valheim to have a dedicated chest hair growth simulator. The more badass you're, the more chest hair you have.

[candid basalt]

Most of us wouldn’t be able lay prone anymore

[paper marsh]

bow users get zero chest hair

I like it

[split adder]

why does the drakkara have only half a sail

[candid basalt]

How do you use fists on drakes?

[tough mulch]

So you can see when your sailing

[vast jewel]

They get ridiculed by the crow.

[shy marlin]

line of sight, hide behind a tree and as they approach the tree jump + punch

[tacit crystal]

You should ask Asatru.

[paper marsh]

Sit at higher elevation than them, then jump off the cliff and give them a whack

[vast jewel]

That is the plan. Maybe the chest hair provides you with warmth.

[candid basalt]

The chest hair ruins the velocity for a jump like that

[vast jewel]

Periodic itching debuff.

[tough mulch]

Chest hair helps generate more adrenaline because of how much testosterone you have

[candid basalt]

Also has fire weakness

[vast jewel]

Petition to rename Adrenaline to Testosterone.

Bows give you 0.

[candid basalt]

Women use adrenaline not so much testosterone

[vast jewel]

They can keep the Adrenaline name.

[near furnace]

no ty

that's not how Testosterone works

[split adder]

how about we rename adrenaline to melatonin

when you fill up you go to sleep

[vast jewel]

Trust me. I'm a scientist.

[lone rampart]

Narcoleptic berserker

[vast jewel]

Vitamin C Meter.

[candid basalt]

Scurvy mechanic?

[vast jewel]

We need all of the mechanics.

[near furnace]

[Reptile brain meeter loading] ? 😄

[vast jewel]

If you don't swim for a while you get an AOE Smell Debuff which makes sneaking harder.

[shy marlin]

Cleaning the house mechanic

[candid basalt]

Just smuggle the broom home

[shy marlin]

i could never do that to the bog witch

[lone rampart]

Bog Witch is my favorite npc. I want her house

[near furnace]

clean house gives Rested+

[vast jewel]

If you clean your house too much you level up the OCD Skill.

[split adder]

what do we clean it with though

[candid basalt]

Muckshakes

[vast jewel]

A toothbrush.

[split adder]

where does one get a toothbrush

also what if i eat the muckshake before i clean with it

[lone rampart]

I want a craftable K…whatever the broom’s name is

[split adder]

kvastur

[vast jewel]

In the new biome. BRITAIN! You single handily cause the bad dental care by looting the toothbrush.

[near furnace]

Kvastur skill improved?

[lone rampart]

I’ve been yearning for more settlements to raze to the ground 🔥

[split adder]

they have guns though

its the british army

[vast jewel]

Britain has maxed out slash and pierce skills.

Hardest biome in the game.

[pure otter]

yeah but the food in that tier is shit

[vast jewel]

You get the new tea cauldron.

[pure otter]

I wouldn't be mad about that

[split adder]

is there anything dangerous in the ashlands sea or am i fine until i reach shore

[tough mulch]

Theres a sea worm there and maybe a few oversized seaguls

[strange reef]

a wraith just flew over my walls into my base and wiped out my entire boar farm..... im devistated

[vast jewel]

Steven Seagul.

[tough mulch]

Starred boar?

[strange reef]

1 star boar

[tough mulch]

Dayum

My condolences

[strange reef]

i have another boar on the other side of the continent but i don't know how to get it back to my main base

[split adder]

theyre destroying my boat

[tough mulch]

Put a workbench on one of the spires when you get time so you can repair it

And dont fall into the water

[tough mulch]

Sailing boars through ocean is a pain

[strange reef]

i really wish we could get an unmodded solution to moving animals

[tough mulch]

Animal cage for newborns animals maybe?

Also the reason why I like Askvins and chickens so much

[strange reef]

just being able to order them to follow you would help

[tough mulch]

Wolf is still hard to bring over long distance travel

[idle storm]

not hard, just slow. They're fine just swimming behind your boat forever if you let them keep up

though the drakkar is pretty good as an animal transport thanks to its high sides

[strange reef]

another problem im having.... does anybody know how to build nice slopped roads?

if anybody knows a good youtube video guide please send it

[tough mulch]

Hold shift when using your hoe

To lvl ground

[tough mulch]

https://youtu.be/GzshydsyIJg?si=a_TbFhvucQlE8qbF

[strange reef]

awsome

[steel mica]

the early axes pretty darn good early game

[tacit crystal]

Hence the name. 🕶️

[vast jewel]

Trying to find a way to get raytracing in Valheim.

[bitter osprey]

hi, is there anyone here who plays on xbox one after last update? does the game run smoother? sorry for bad english its not my first language

[strange reef]

so if I find more boars (prefeberly 2 star) do they have to be near my main base to grow? I know i need to be nearby to tame them.

but if they will grow and reproduce away from my main base ill just pop down a portal and no problem

[candid basalt]

They only get busy if you are within the area

[tacit crystal]

Breeding requires player proximity.

[strange reef]

well that sucks

[random smelt]

hey guys

i stoped playinh for a while and now i came back but i cant find my server its like it has been deleted

any one knows what could this be ?

[paper marsh]

Heard a lot of people with deleted saves recently

I'm wondering if this is just because a lot of people came back after years/months because there was a little update, and things tend to get wonky when a save is left for too long?

[random smelt]

its been about a year since i last played

damn i had lots of cool stuff there

[stoic violet]

i always delete saves before another big patch

[paper marsh]

oh?

[fossil delta]

Thats a bad idea. I visit saves from 5 years ago, and they are all fine. Of course, I followed the "rules" for not going into biomes not done yet.

[idle storm]

I usually just slap down a portal and put my first farm wherever the boar is.
The time it takes you to harvest and plant is plenty for your animals to breed and that way they're not in danger when your base gets raided.

[split adder]

is it safe to put a portal on one of the spires around the ashlands

[shy marlin]

Yea

[idle storm]

Not without a non-burnable roof or shield gen

but otherwise pretty much

[keen trench]

maybe my rng is broken but it was hell to find a single ||mysterious axe head||, hoarded 5 ||curious axe head|| before i could find one

[strange reef]

I built my main base around my boar taming pen where I found my first 1 star boar

but i just discoverd that I can turn off friendly fire and harpoon a boar and drag it across the map

so i can get my farm back

[paper marsh]

If I built my base around tames, I would have zero bases in my playthrough 🤣

Maybe 1 in like plains or ashlands

[nocturne wolf]

each type of house only has one axe head it can spawn with so you don't need to check the same type again if you found an axe there

[strange reef]

im about to give up on this road project..... not worth my time

[paper marsh]

Roads are very nice for no map (but even then I just do very simple ones)

Otherwise, I don't bother

[keen trench]

oh, ym it's supposed to change type of house 🤔 , i found all 5 ||curious|| ones in the same ||4x4 meadows wooden tower model||, the ||mysterious|| one was in a different one ||a regular A frame||, anyway i literally searched every single poi around spawn (basically any ||meadows|| available pre-sailing)

also debunked my own ||1000 m from center|| theory, a couple of them were much closer (can't tell precisely)

[keen trench]

oook i misunderstood the message, so yes, got the point.. also i saw Wiki is already updated and confirms this, just i wanted to get everything myself before checking anything.. anyway i found tons of ||abandoned house 2|| before i could get the piece, when almost every ||abandoned house 6|| had one in it, probably bad rng

[limpid vigil]

Wonder if the Deep North Boss will be the final boss or if one unlocks upon placing the heads of all Forsaken

I would assume the winter child is the final boss

[dark coyote]

||final boss is Ulf||

[keen trench]

i like the ||Ulf as final boss|| theory

[near furnace]

can chat please behave while I am eating dinner?

[west mica]

I deffinitely cant

I can never behave

[smoky saddle]

Whats the stats for frosted bread?

[paper marsh]

I think 44 stamina 44 hp

Don't quote me

[fossil delta]

Its the bear. The headless, limbless bear.

I refer to him as Rolypoly when I bring him up to my wife.

Since I imagine he can only roll around.

[silk token]

i thought of that too! then i reread the stones and i feel more like it was just anthropomorphizing the earth

[split adder]

what about the child in the snow

[fossil delta]

Not sure. Maybe another mini boss, like whats his name in Ashlands. That dream has been around a long time too.

[silk token]

i one you touch and you both wake up at the same time? that dream is creepy af. it feels like a premonition about the winter child

[fossil delta]

Yeah, it could be referencing real world legends.

[near furnace]

34/34/30 minutes?

[fossil delta]

I still believe the limbless bear is the boss for the North, but who really knows? Aside from Smiffe and the dev crew.

[split adder]

imagine just getting ran over by a blob of bear flesh

[paper marsh]

What smiffe said

[tacit crystal]

43/43 iirc.

[fossil delta]

Pretty sure what Smiffe just posted is accurate. 😄

My wife and I do like the two new decorations.

Fairy lights and flower garland, I think they are called. They looked good.

[tacit crystal]

There.

[paper marsh]

4 hp/tick not bad

[fossil delta]

What?!? Smiffe was wrong? 😄

Considering I have to use my precious eggs to make them, I am glad they did.

I mean they are sold for 2500 coin, iirc. Very precious.

[near furnace]

no

I was just wrong 😄

34, 43

same same

[tacit crystal]

1500 coins, but yeah.

34 would have had just 1 point more than wolf skewer.

[dark coyote]

be-having bad?

[fossil delta]

Either way, I get them from the tower now a days. So I just have to kill stuff. 😄

[gray sand]

43/43

It's on the foodsheet 😭

[split adder]

are the large structures in the ashland waters safe from enemies

[gray sand]

Why do I even maintain foodsheet when everyone just asks Joel for screenshots 😭 MELODRAMATIC CRYING INTENSIFIES 😭

[trail pelican]

nowhere in the ashlands is safe unless you make it so

[fossil delta]

They don't read your parry sheet either, so cry even harder.

[split adder]

generally though

am i gonna die upon going to one

[tacit crystal]

No one asked screenshot tho, but I just provided info for backing up my reply.

[trail pelican]

probably safer/easier to fortify IME once you clear out any nearby spawners

[gray sand]

Oh that sheet I specifically made for myself and just felt like sharing 😄 So no tears there.
The food sheet is for other people.

[paper marsh]

hey hey now I do read that one quite a lot

[gray sand]

I updated the food sheet like an hour after the update.

[fossil delta]

Your probably much less likely to get attacked, but that would still depend on whats around to aggro you.

[fossil delta]

Apparently an exception based upon comments made around here.

Its understandable hardly anyone reads the pinned stuff. I often forget they are there myself.

I imagine most people don't even know what the pins are for.

[supple bear]

Imagine using food

[split adder]

how do you cook bonemaw meat if it stays raw in boiling water

how does the fire help at all

[gray sand]

Because the Ash water is barely lukewarm.

[dark coyote]

how does that kill you?

[split adder]

the moment i walk into the ashlands a ton of skeletons start trying to beat me
is this gonna be how life is from now on

[gray sand]

🤷‍♂️
The fact you do not in any way need the "heat resist boat" is proof enough that the water is just barely warmer than normal water.

[supple bear]

A lot of the spawns in ashlands are either one time spawns or tied to spawners

Once you clear an area you should be fine

[tribal perch]

Allright. this game desperatelly needs more inventory slots. Every minor patch made things so much worse. It's crazy now that you can't go through black forest any longer without throwing items. You used to be able to do it. But now there so many items (Bear drops, Phantoms droms, trinkets) that you can't anymore.

[supple bear]

People have been complaining about the lack of inventory space since day one

The devs think it adds "tough decisions"

They like the way it is

[tribal perch]

it's far worse than day 1. In day 1 you could explore an entire blackforest, pick up everywhing and go back home

[worn steeple]

Thats when you have mooooooods

[tribal perch]

now you can't

[supple bear]

ITs likely deep north with take another slot or two away from us

I dont even use pots and stuff and i still only have like 12 free inventory slots

Imagine if you actually use a bunch of pots

[dark coyote]

I don't like both a slot limit and weight limit, rather I should say the slots aren't representative of volume.

[frigid anvil]

Tbf I also like it, but I understand that I’m a minority voice in that regard 😂

[supple bear]

i mean for me personally i solved the issue by not being a loot goblin and doing selective farm runs

rather than try to gather everthing the biome has to offer at once i just do runs for a few items

[tribal perch]

24 slots became way too little, expecially since they started adding items freely in all patches

[supple bear]

The limited inventory is intended game design

[chrome badge]

This is the reason I am all for inventory expansion of some kind, there's a number of things I just never utilize because they're too niche to carry around.

[supple bear]

they've been fervently against things like armor slots, backpacks, ect

[tribal perch]

that was not the case day 1, you could do a run and gather everhwhing you found

[supple bear]

Mods do exist for those things though if you want them

[split adder]

is it reasonable to destroy the ashlands spawners with a bow

[chrome badge]

Not so true anymore. They were asking for player's opinions as to how they would increase inventory.

[supple bear]

I mean you can still do that in the meadows.....? Nothing has changed in that regard

[tribal perch]

this is not a discussion about mods, this is discution about the base game

[supple bear]

You can loot everything the meadows because you dont have anything yet lol

it isnt until around the swamp/mountains that inventory actaully starts becoming a problem

I agree with you, I'm just informing you that the devs don't lol

And they got final word on everything

[tribal perch]

all I'm saying is that inventory management was decent on day 1, it's attrocious now, due to the extra items and mats added, but no extra inventory space

[silk token]

i will say inventory becomes significantly harder in ashlands. more mob variety dropping 3, 4, different items each, even the most efficient inventory cant hold them all. that said, i also don't think its that bad for the rest of the game. from playing no map ive learned to just not collect things and swallow the bitter feelign of leavign a stack of something behind, but i never needed it anyway usually

[frozen fable]

I would say just give me 4 or 8 more inventory slots once Mistlands opens up and I am good

[tribal perch]

Ashlands is crazy bad, but even black forest to be this bad? Please ...

[frozen fable]

I think it is just knowing what you absolutely need to keep and what you don't

[split adder]

what is my first goal in the ashlands

what am i supposed to do

[frozen fable]

I always use a portal to unload things quickly

[silk token]

asksvin bladder handbag when?

[tribal perch]

you need to keep everything except pu1keberries usually

skull trophies, wrait tropies, or bears skins, or trol skins? what would you throw?

[silk token]

you need SOME of everything sometimes, but once i've hit a stack of some things that gets me to endgame not needing anymore and i dont have to pick it up

[merry pebble]

Skelly trophies and troll skin

[tribal perch]

no, I fight the troll. I want to keep his skin

it's my prize for beating him

[silk token]

i'd throw... all but bear skins, the rest you dont rly need or will get through raids or just randomly. maybe wraith trophy for posterity but id come back for it if i wanted it

[tribal perch]

they were my first troll skins, first troll encountered was a 1 star troll

[silk token]

and you didnt make pants out of them?

[fossil delta]

Yes. I forget how many shots it usually takes, but its a valid way to do it.

[split adder]

do ashland trees just randomly fall over or something

[tribal perch]

and I had a full invetory of other stuff, surtling cores, trophies, bear calws, skinds and bear trophy

also first carrot seeds

[fossil delta]

Yeah, they are constantly getting damaged by the environment.

[fossil delta]

Not die, then establish a safe base in which to spawn back into when you do die, then explore, find mats, empty out the caves, find flametal, find and clear out Citadels, and so on.

[brazen linden]

Don't forget that you will die a lot, doing the stuff Robert listed. Make sure your safe base are fire- and raid-proof.

[split adder]

was i supposed to bring resources to make a stonecutter

[fossil delta]

Yeah, I died a fair amount of times my first time.

[fossil delta]

That would have been a solid idea.

[silk token]

when i first went to ashlands, literally my entire hull was full and 90% metals and non-teleportables, like i MOVED to ashlands. i didnt know anything about spoilers

[fossil delta]

Fortunately the new boat does have a rather massive hold.

[silk token]

i was ready like storming normandy had my shield generator mats, table, portal, and stone to encase it all in ready to go

what i really wished i had was not all my combat skill in atgiers...

[fossil delta]

Yeah, I took mats for the forges, upgrades, etc... I was glad I did.

[silk token]

nice. yeah i had everything there, kitchen and everything, i assumed id be gettign new metals to upgrade stations so i brought every station lol. it was fun, glad i didnt spoil the portals cuz i had fun making a war base there

[fossil delta]

I did leave food making stuff behind. I was using portals. I did take a set of made foods with me, just in case.

[split adder]

is there supposed to be more than a morgen in a putrid hole

[fossil delta]

Not that I recall encountering. Just them.

Search carefully. Some things can be hard to see.

Use a torch, or the dvergr head light.

[supple bear]

Speaking of torchest

Imagine being afraid of a torch when your natural habitat is literally lava hell

[silk token]

lots of goodies in those caves bring a light source

[gray sand]

I'm counting 19-20 without pots, what all are you carrying?

[supple bear]

full hotbar, full kit, 3 foods, portal mats

including the wood for the workbench that leaves me 11 slots

[gray sand]

Food will instantly give you 3 slots back, especially if you are choosing to carry portal mats and can go refresh whenever you want to.

[supple bear]

Still pretty far from 20 slots

[gray sand]

What's on your "full hotbar"?

19 v 20 is a matter of "cape" for me 😄

[supple bear]

And id rather not go home every 10 minutes to refresh food

Im a mage

[gray sand]

Way to exaggerate how food lasts 30-60 minutes...

[supple bear]

No it doesn't

Outside of feasts most end game foods last 25-30 minutes

which is a lie, they really last half that

[gray sand]

Yes, 30, feasts being 60.
Hence, 30-60.

[supple bear]

because after half the duration it starts blinking and the stats start tanking HARD

[gray sand]

Sincerely, the person who maintains the food sheet pinned in this channel.

[supple bear]

so you need to refresh as soon as it starts blinking

[gray sand]

You do not.

I have an entire tab dedicated to how hard things do not decay.

[supple bear]

You do because the stats of food tanks heavily after half duration

[gray sand]

Pick a food, any food 🙂

[supple bear]

its literally always been that way

the stats start dropping off like a cliff from half duration down to zero

[gray sand]

Pick a food, any food 🙂

[paper marsh]

Eyescream

[supple bear]

You pick any food that isnt a feast

[merry pebble]

You might want to check this 😉 https://valheim.fandom.com/wiki/Food#Effect_decay

[supple bear]

Food stats decay heavily after 50% its always been that way

[merry pebble]

At 10% of duration remaining you still have 50% of the foods effect 🙂

[supple bear]

Once it starts blinking is when the sharp decline starts

[gray sand]

Stamina-focused food so I will look at that line.

Starts at 65, lasts 25 min.
After 14 min (more than half) is still providing 51 stamina.
Which is ~78% of total value. Hardly a cliff as the other person keeps saying.

[merry pebble]

Repeating something and saying "its always been that way" doesent make it a fact 🙂

[gray sand]

Perfect opportunity for FOOD SHEET link but nooooo 😭

[supple bear]

I mean the wiki literally says what im saying

"Over time the effects applied by food will fade away, gradually at first, but rapidly just as the buff is about to end."

The chart shows exactly what im saying as well

[merry pebble]

About to end, not at 50% 😉

[gray sand]

-22% is "sharp decline"?

[supple bear]

Yes

[gray sand]

LOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLL

[merry pebble]

Sorry, i am not big fan of excel sheets in general

[supple bear]

Either way it saves me 3 inventory slots to go home and refresh food every 15 minutes which i dont think is worth

[paper marsh]

Up to perspective. I'd agree 22% can be a pretty hefty decrease. Could be the difference between being able to parry an enemy or not, or tanking a hard hitting starred enemy or not

[gray sand]

With exactly 1 minute left, you still have over 38% of total stat.

[supple bear]

Once it starts blinking its time to eat again

[gray sand]

Self-inflicted issue at that point 🤷‍♂️
Can also just carry one of each food to eat at timer and then still get your 3 slots back.

[supple bear]

I do admit though that being a mage is somewhat hell on inventory space but i dont even use elixers or potions

[merry pebble]

I am by no means against carrying food on your person, i usually keep full stack of yeach food at me just in case, but your statement about food rapidly declining after half its duration is gone was just incorrect. 🙂

[supple bear]

11 slots has been reasonable enough if you arent a loot goblin

[gray sand]

If you're a mage I am definitely curious how you have a "full hotbar" given you need only 2 weapons.

[chrome badge]

I don't enjoy how later foods begin to decay before you can ever regen to full.

[supple bear]

K thanks for the correction

[paper marsh]

Eating and bringing one extra food to eat sounds like a pretty good option. I should probably start doing that

[gray sand]

When I am not using Feasts, this is what I do.

[supple bear]

Food has always lost stats more heavily has it approched zero and its always been best practice to refresh your food as soon as it starts blinking for maximum stats

So food effectively has half the duration stated on the tooltip

unless you're ok with not having high stats half the time

[gray sand]

I am literally looking at the breakdown of decaying stats for ALL foods in the game and you are a drastically over-exaggerating how they lose stats.

[supple bear]

Even if i am that doesnt make my overall point wrong

You refresh food as soon as it starts blinking to maintain the highest stats

[gray sand]

Given your overall point is "half duration" -- yes, you are wrong.

[supple bear]

effectively giving food half its stated duration

since it stats blinking at 50%

[gray sand]

You refresh at that point.

[supple bear]

Most players refresh at that point?

[gray sand]

Just because you do something does not make it correct.

[lone rampart]

I don’t refresh at that point

[gray sand]

And you continue to avoid answering how you have a full hotbar...

[supple bear]

Same could be said for you i dont get the argument

[near furnace]

it use to be alot worse before

[lone rampart]

I am no one

[near furnace]

before we added TIMERS

[wet wolf]

i dont normally refresh food until it gets under 10mins or even under 5mins

[lone rampart]

Smiffe was your dinner uneventful at least?

[nocturne wolf]

You shouldn't need the maximum possible stats just to survive

[paper marsh]

I think most people refresh food before it runs out

Specifically doing it right when it hits half is probably more the minority though

[near furnace]

nope

[supple bear]

The point still stands, you are incentivized to refresh your food as soon as it starts blinking and if you choose to do so food has effectively half the duration stated on the tooltip

[lone rampart]

Well darn. I didn’t do it!

[gray sand]

You are not.

And you continue to avoid answering how you have a full hotbar.

[supple bear]

And no, you dont need the highest stats to win. You can beat the game on the hardest difficulty naked with no food

Mutliple people have done it

[slow flicker]

I dont refresh food until about the last 2 mins but that's me

[wet wolf]

i think the blinking just tells you that the stats are getting worse

[supple bear]

Which is why you refresh it

[gray sand]

You are allowed to refresh on blinking.
Not incentivized.

[supple bear]

You are indeed incentivized to refresh your food as quickly as possible

[paper marsh]

It tells you that you are able to eat again to override the food

Stats decay all throughout the duration

[gray sand]

It blinks when you can eat.

[slow flicker]

Anyone know where to find the early axes or what i need to make them?

[gray sand]

And you continue to avoid answering how you have a full hotbar...

[chrome badge]

They're in the meadows, you'll need to find the axe heads in the broken down wooden POIs

[supple bear]

im not avoiding questions about the hotbar

[slow flicker]

awesome thank you

[paper marsh]

Need to find two axeheads that can be found in the chests in structures in the meadows. Semi-rare I believe

[silk token]

i let mine go blinking a while too, and when i see a large mob or 2 star or whatever i just quick munch munch munch to get that max hp up

[supple bear]

my hot bar is 4 mage weapons, a shield, a melee, weapon a pick and axe

no hammer

no hoe

[gray sand]

So that is also a self-inflicted restriction.
I think we found why you have no inventory slots.

[supple bear]

I have 11 free inventory slots

and again i wasnt even complaining about the lack of inventory i was responding to someone else who was XD

[paper marsh]

pick and axe probably unnecessary unless you're actively going resource gathering

[gray sand]

And you could have 17 at a minimum from what you've said.

[supple bear]

I literally said dont be a loot goblin and you dont need that much space

Most people have it far worse than i do

[sharp bluff]

you always need space and extra weight, more is better xd

[supple bear]

I dont use or carry potions

from what i can tell a lot of you cant live without that move speed potion from the bog witch

[sharp bluff]

given how op those are that goes out the window ones you deal with dangerous enemies

[sharp bluff]

correct

[supple bear]

thats an inventory slot

[sharp bluff]

stamina recovery is another drug xd

[supple bear]

and then lingering stam meads probably right

[gray sand]

Genuinely only use speedy pot when I am moving base locations.

[paper marsh]

Yeah that one is my downfall

But I usually balance it out with other things, like using a battleaxe instead of a sword and shield and pile of wood

[supple bear]

maybe healing ones? Im honestly not sure what pots people carry around

those three seem pretty useful though

[gray sand]

Linger Stam can be replaced entirely with Bronze Trinket tbh.

[paper marsh]

I usually bring health, stamina, and ratatosk. Maybe eitr if I'm going mage

[slow flicker]

depends on which boss Im fighting but typically its just health and stam potions

[silk token]

i do the thing where you drink when you leave and carry a stack of 1 on you that will be drank or discarded before coming home

[supple bear]

Being a mage is already inventory heavy as is

and i leave the summoning weapons at home

Like i was telling that guy earlier though before the entire conversation got derailed over my inventory habits

[gray sand]

Why do you have 4 staves when you need 1-2? 😭

[supple bear]

The devs like the inventory so its here to say

They think it makes you make "hard choices"

[paper marsh]

I suppose there's gotta be some balance for mages. If they get to do high damage at safe range with chunky shields, they don't get to have inventory space

[supple bear]

Fire staff, ice staff, wild staff, protection staff, all useful

sure i could just use the wild staff and protection staff

[gray sand]

Pain.

[supple bear]

but again i dont really need more inventory space

[chrome badge]

Again, they've asked the players how they would approach increasing inventory slots.

This is likely going to be changed in the future.

[gray sand]

Fire until Wild.
Protection entirely option with the sheer massive OP AF damage output.
1, 2 being if you take bubble.

[supple bear]

We will see, they did change hiboxes......... supposedly

[fossil delta]

I'm starting to see why some people complain about carrying capacity, and I don't.

[gray sand]

If Frost gained accuracy with skill level, I would use it.

[supple bear]

I noticed no difference my last playthrough

[slow flicker]

I think its always been the same answer. Make armor slots seperate from inventory

[silk token]

really??? i super noticed HUGE change especially in mountains fighting wolves

[supple bear]

I can empathize with people who have inventory issues. Most people are loot goblins

[gray sand]

If they pull out armor, cape, equipment, trinket - people get 6 slots back and I think that is fair.
People wanting 20+ slot backpacks... plz fk no.

[chrome badge]

I don't hate this, but I do have concerns that it could be approached in a way that clutters the screen more than it already is.

I think there's plenty of ways to save inventory space possible.

[pure otter]

azu extended inventory is good first pass at this. This is a solved problem in like thousands of games

[supple bear]

To be fair they do give you cart 😛

[slow flicker]

Could be a separate area connected to the inventory tab

[silk token]

haha cart op

[supple bear]

Not being a loot goblin is the way though

You dont need three chests of bones i promise

[gray sand]

Given how many games' menu screens completely block the game entirely... idk how "cluttered when inventory UI is open" is even a talking point, personally.

[chrome badge]

Absolutely, there's plenty of good ways to do it.

[supple bear]

yeah im trying to think what survival game doesnt

v rising?

arks, conans, enshroudeds menus are all fullscreen

terrarias isnt

[gray sand]

Dude even Animal Crossing has a full-screen inventory 😭

[chrome badge]

I think the living open world and uncluttered view as it is are my main concerns. It would take some adjusting and/or just add panic to navigating inventory.

A troll wandering up being blocked by inventory view is a concern even at the beginning of the game.

[gray sand]

Danger while actively looking in your bag for stuff is... realistic. So 🤷‍♂️

[supple bear]

I mean that happens in all kinds of games

[paper marsh]

Make inventory 70% transparent so it looks absolutely terrible and confusing, but doesn't block much :D

[supple bear]

anything that doesnt pause when in a menu really

[chrome badge]

Absolutely, just voicing a concern that could/would present itself that isn't a problem currently.

[gray sand]

ESC menu pauses on SP, so they could add that to inventory open 🤔

[supple bear]

I just want deep north to come out so i can beat it and be done with it

Im ready to be spammed by polar bears in a perm blizzard

[nocturne wolf]

being able to do things and manage inventory at the same time is good though

[supple bear]

I shall beat it prenerf just like i did mistlands and ashlands

[gray sand]

"do things" == "wait for things to do themselves"

[paper marsh]

Damn I intend to take my time with Deep North. Gonna be my first biome that (I hope to) go into truly blind and I want to spend a while there. No rush

[supple bear]

Remember when the falling trees in ashlands attracked enemies

[paper marsh]

Not even falling, just burning

It was glorious

[supple bear]

Yeah i dont recommend rushing it unless you're trying to outspeed the devs

Ashlands and mistlands got nerfed pretty quickly once they hit the PTR

im racing against the clock

[gray sand]

Playing it before the casuals ruin it is always the best tbh.

[supple bear]

The funny part is

the problem with mistlands wasnt even the number of bugs

it was the landscape

nothing but slopes everywhere and the bugs send you to africa when you block or parry

[rotund field]

Ashlands is still pretty brutal...having trouble getting my corpse back from around lava because between constant respawns and the lava "spurts" knocking me off platforms from basalt bombs, I've died like 9 times

[chrome badge]

Dogg had mentioned adding the equipment inventory to a tab within the basic crafting menu would work well enough, and I agree. I don't utilize that menu beyond the original hammer/stone axe crafts.

[gray sand]

The landscape you can legit tunnel through because most of the large, shooting rocks can be mined out.

[supple bear]

You have a lot more free time than I do

[gray sand]

Well, now we have Elder power 😏

[supple bear]

Its easier to just climb up to the top and stay above the mist

[gray sand]

No bunnies up top 😭

[paper marsh]

Yeah that's how I felt initially and I did enjoy Ashlands, but I found rushing it took away more from the experience than it added

[supple bear]

Oh right they did rework those powers right

I pretty much just always keep the deer power and rarely use it anyway lol

[chrome badge]

That's a shame, they're so useful now.

[gray sand]

Elder power is so useful I recommend rushing him with your Flint gear and using it to make the bronze age less tedious.

[supple bear]

i dont need bonemass

[gray sand]

Moder arguably "best" power now imo.

[supple bear]

that was the only other one really worth using at the time

[paper marsh]

It definitely is. I think devs did a good job of making difficulty go up as you progress late in the game, at least for ashlands (mistlands I'm conflicted on)

It's just a little tamer than before

[midnight lantern]

Not letting me post an lfg group?

[gray sand]

Moder gives tailwind + weight capacity + 10% movespeed.

[supple bear]

moder is probably good for farm runs yeah i can see it

its kind of funny to think about how gimped i play normally

[gray sand]

Mine until you're overcapped, pop the power can grab the extra rocks that fell and run it back.

[supple bear]

i use troll armor for like half the game, dont bother with crazy foods, no pots, no elder powers lol

[gray sand]

I actually end up using Bronze Armor just because I have horrible luck finding trolls 😭

[supple bear]

Good lord what

[gray sand]

Like, trolls are so rare for me I can have rank 3 bronze armor completed before finding a 3rd troll.

[supple bear]

Thats insane

[lunar sapphire]

Here troll pspspspspspspspsp usually helps

[gray sand]

That's RNG 😉

[supple bear]

Im like a troll magnet

and ive done like 20-30 playthroughs at this point

[gray sand]

Finding BEARS everywhere though.

[supple bear]

i find about as many bears as trolls

[gray sand]

Which would be fine if the bear hat didn't take up a third of my screen 😭

[chrome badge]

Bears are such a good addition, even though I've mastered dodging their attacks, it still feels very good to do so.

[lunar sapphire]

I mean, being a drum machine is usually enough to attract trolls to your location

[supple bear]

You need the bear trophy for the best trinket for like 95% of the game anyway

[gray sand]

Haldor free trophy is so good.

[chrome badge]

Iron Brooch is the best. ⚔️

[supple bear]

jormundling is the best

for a filthy magic usier

[paper marsh]

bear legs/chest, bronze helmet?

[chrome badge]

I'll die on this hill!

[supple bear]

it give syou +20 and refills your eitr bar

[gray sand]

I usually rock Bronze -> Wolf -> Shackle.
Stamina refund is worth more than heal.

[paper marsh]

Can confirm, Jormundling best

Iron brooch 2nd

[supple bear]

for any other build though id say bronze is probably best

[gray sand]

HELMET?
You mean Dverger Circlet? 😛

[midnight lantern]

Its not letting me post an lfg group but m starting a new world if anyone is keen on playing with me

[chrome badge]

How dare you.

[paper marsh]

Didn't peg you for finding trader before trolls

But maybe your rng is just that bad/good

[gray sand]

If you're slashing, Shackle beats Bronze tbh.

[supple bear]

They really do need to put a crossbow in swamp biome though

[silk token]

thats like opposite of me, i mark copper deposits with a big wood X until i see an unarmed troll then i go mining. i never kill a troll until i get it to a deposit

[supple bear]

wooden crossbow, ez

[gray sand]

And I am torn between Earrings v Jorm.

[gray sand]

Elder Power is faster than Trolls 😄

[supple bear]

dont the earrings just give eitr regen?

its hard to compete with +20 skill and instant refill of your bar

[silk token]

i doubt it we should race.

[supple bear]

wait hold up

[silk token]

with troll you dont even need to dig the node tho they smash all the way down

[supple bear]

if you cant find trolls does that mean you're actually mining copper yourself

you poor thing

[gray sand]

Brimstone as a trinket is just... why?

[silk token]

no i dont mine, i just do other things the trolls show up. or i’ll mine just enough for a forge and bronze nails for a cart

[gray sand]

Evasion Mantle is a "higher difficulties" trinket with what it enables.

[supple bear]

Making a cart is cute

[silk token]

whaa?? do you never gather wood or ore?

[supple bear]

Of course i do

[silk token]

and…?

[supple bear]

i just dont gather hundreds of it as a time

bronze is mostly a fly over tech for me

i only need the bench upgrades and cultivator

[silk token]

you just enjoy running back and forth? sprint skill grinding?

[gray sand]

Aquaman Bracers OP though.

[supple bear]

I make like one trip for copper lol

[silk token]

thats not possible

[supple bear]

Im curious why not

[chrome badge]

It's even more possible with the Early Axes.

[light moat]

But how do you build sconces with so little copper??

[silk token]

station upgrades, fermenter(s), ship, weapon, bronze axe, etc

[supple bear]

dont need aw eapon or bronze axe

[silk token]

you cam carry what like 20 copper ore? thats 10 bronze

[supple bear]

you know you can get copper and bronze later in the game right

[silk token]

no fermenter? forge? furniture? armor stand, bed,

[supple bear]

and you also get full refunds on disaseembly

[light moat]

Was gonna say, probably could just repurpose bronze from upgrades to fermenter and vice versa if you wanted to be frugal 🤔

[supple bear]

There is no man more frugal than I

[paper marsh]

Austrian isn't a fermenting fella

[supple bear]

i mean you still need it

[silk token]

just a ship is 4 bronze = 8 copper, so you have 12 copper left.

[supple bear]

just not after yag

i make a poison pot for bonemass a single frost mead to get silver for cape, and a fire pot for yag

the mead thing also takes bronze so you just swap around XD

[paper marsh]

I will say my bronze needs have been really minimized lately

I never really made the armor or a specific bronze weapon, but now I don't feel like I need a shield or bronze axe either with early axes and the parrying ability of bear paws

[silk token]

right but… bronze too

[supple bear]

I dont make a karve

i skip straight to ironship, if i even make a boat at all before ashlands

[silk token]

you can disassemble bronze into copper amd back into bronze and into nails to sleep in your comfy bed and rip your bed apart and smoosh the nails back into bars to make a fermenter again

you… take a raft to the swamp?

[supple bear]

Thats a bit extreme, i just go back later and get bronze from ashlands or mine it for the later game stuff that needs it

[supple bear]

I often don't need a boat no

the last seed i played on had all the bosses but fader on one landmass

first boat i made was the ashlands one lol

[silk token]

ok, thats a strange seed

[supple bear]

Quite a lot of them like that

But even still its pretty common to have a swamp connected to your starting landmass

Its usually mistlands you gotta travel for

[lusty dirge]

I don't think I've ever had mistlands on the starter continent

[supple bear]

Thats because mistlands can only spawn after a certain distance away from the center

[silk token]

but. so. forge upgrades?? thats a ton of copper and finewood, you dont upgrade forge gear?

[supple bear]

it has to be a pretty big landmass

You realize iron makes forge upgrades too

[silk token]

yeahhh?

[supple bear]

I dont need a max level forge, i just need the bare minimum to make the gear i want

you replace gear so quickly up until mistlands its honestly not worht your time to farm out gear sets and upgrade them

a fully upgraded armor or weapon from the previous biome has the same stats as an unpgraded armor or weapon from the next

[silk token]

right

[supple bear]

a full upgraded bronze mace = level 1 iron mace

[silk token]

things that i know

[supple bear]

then you know theres no point in upgrading a bronze mace

because you will replace it in 5 minutes lol

[silk token]

im just like theres no way 20 copper ore is all you need til ashlands

[supple bear]

You can get copper in mistlands very easily

[silk token]

if all you want is 2 fermenters thats your entire supply and no more forge because thats copper

[silk token]

yeah i knos

[supple bear]

you're hung up on the fact im skipping copper in the early game and getting it later on when i actually need it

[silk token]

but also maybe ferment 2 potions at the same time?

oh right u dont use potions.

OK this whole conversation is so goddamn frustrating I can’t

[supple bear]

i use 3 potions total in the game and just use the same bronze for the fermenter and mead thing

[silk token]

congrsts on… skipping stuff and gear and potions heres a trophy

[supple bear]

I dont know why its frustrating. I dont need copper early game because i skip upgrades until later in the game

i literally just need a few bronze for a cultivator and enough to make a fermenter/mead thing

then i get copper for actual bench upgrades in mistlands

[supple bear]

You can get ashlands tier gear without killing a single boss lol

Which should be an achievement by the way smiffe 😉

[paper marsh]

I have a feeling that the potions I use, you don't use. And the potions you use, I don't use

[supple bear]

Probably. I use antipoison for bonemass, frost mead for my first mountains trip, and fire mead for yag. Mostly just for convience

If i was going to bother to make anything it would probably be lingering stam meads

because they are cheap lol

[paper marsh]

I was right. I spam potions a lot, but I banned myself from using elemental resistance potions because I find the game more fun without them 😅

It's fun seeing the opposite playstyles between people

[supple bear]

with an antipoison you can just tank and spank bonemass

otherwise i wouldnt bother with it

[paper marsh]

Exactly

And you can also use the potions to get rid of stuff like harnesk fire weakness, and overall it just diminishes the value of stuff like root mask or fenris set

[supple bear]

surprisingly i dont ever go for the fenris set despite my "speedrunner" tendancies

the pocket portal pretty much elimates backtracking

[paper marsh]

The speed is pretty nice, and I like having the fire resist against yag just in case. If you really want speed tho it is more easily gained by chugging ratatosk though

[supple bear]

Yeah bog witch is still a "new" feature to me

I do like using the blob bombs to train blood magic though

way faster than a greydwarf farm

[paper marsh]

I need to test out how the frost blobs are in the ashlands

I imagine growths will be nasty in deep north

[supple bear]

not sure if they're worth crafting for actual combat. You trap a blob behind TWIG so skeletons will hit TWIG since they wont attack it directly

got like 30 blood levels in 20 minutes XD

[paper marsh]

I imagine you can get some pretty nasty skellies on very hard 100 blood magic.

I think they get 6x their normal difficulty blood level 0 damage, and if you summon (is it 4?) the max number of skellies, that's a lotta damaaaaage

[wild schooner]

Just entered Ashlands and it's a bloody hell

[paper marsh]

Hope you're enjoying it ❤️

or should I say

Hope you're enjoying it ❤️‍🔥 😈

[supple bear]

skeletons sucks

[wild schooner]

My friend barely loses any health even though he has a L2 Carapace set

[supple bear]

Its the shield hp you want

[wild schooner]

Cuz he beat Valheim twice

[supple bear]

The hp of the shield starts at 200 and goes up 5 per level

[paper marsh]

I always ignore that because I've never cared to grind for long enough for it to tank more than one hit from most mobs

Though tbf, it's a long time since I've played on normal

[supple bear]

I mean if you want to parry anything on harder difficulties its kinda manditory lol

[paper marsh]

I recently self-imposed a no active skill training rule and that's been pretty fun actually

[wild schooner]

We literally found Fader's altar right after entering Ashlands

[supple bear]

The bubble lets you parry anything, once

[humble pewter]

What gear is that since you cant smelt bm or flametal without killing moder? Certain mistlands gear are doable but what can you craft from ashlands? Since you need linen thread, flametal or eitr for most everything.

[paper marsh]

You can do that at blood magic 0 tho

[paper marsh]

Her tears let you build the alchemy table. The alchemy table lets you build the blast furnace for processing blackmetal and flametal

Nvm I misunderstood the question

[hard sluice]

magic is so powerful, i didnt use it for all the game until i got the fader, and killed him with very low skills. on hard..

[humble pewter]

Yes, thats not the question 🙂

[supple bear]

the weapons

[paper marsh]

I think Askvin armor is craftable without Moder?

[humble pewter]

What weapons are avaliable without flametal?

[supple bear]

wild staff for example requires a jade and stuff you loot off the ground

no flametal needed

[humble pewter]

And to be able to craft that you need galdr table

Which needs bm

[paper marsh]

Galdr table needs blackmetal

[supple bear]

does every single ashlands melee weapon take flametal?

[covert fox]

I am magician form on mistland with my warrior friend should I use 2 eitr food 1 full max life or 3 eitr food ?

[humble pewter]

It needs linen thread

[supple bear]

there was a guy who did a reverse boss run of valheim

[humble pewter]

Ive done it as well, but you max out at krom and a crossbow pretty much without killing moder.

[paper marsh]

Yeah I think I was thinking of the cape. But just checked and apparently that's not available in workbench, only galdr table?

[hard sluice]

i dont know what name he uses on this server, but the guy who owns the servers i played the most on did a reverse run, starting with fader

[paper marsh]

Seems silly to me ask cape is galdr table only

[humble pewter]

But it was a while so I got curious if I had missed something new 🙂

[supple bear]

Guess im wrong then there is no ashlands gear you can craft without killing a boss

[humble pewter]

Most extreme I did was ashlands in bronze level gear, that was fun. On normal though 😄

[supple bear]

I generally naked run to explore the ashlands risk free when i first land

for me personally the askvins are generally what kill me if anything does

those things be fast

[humble pewter]

Full fenris gear and ratatosk my friend, you outrun everything 😄

[hard sluice]

some players only use fenris+ratatosk combined with bow skills for the whole game
idk how fun it is, but i'm sure it works great.

[paper marsh]

some players are cowards

[supple bear]

I'd rather just not risk anything

Before you clear all the one time spawns ashlands can get pretty hectic

I mean people back in the day used to play the entire game with a bow from a point mobs couldn't reach, like a rock

[paper marsh]

I suppose you risk some skill levels?

[supple bear]

I dont care about skills and one death gives me 10 minutes of free running

which with how small ashlands is, not that bad

[humble pewter]

I'm gonna be that guy and say ashlands during ptb with the sound bug was hectic, now its very balanced for what its supposed to be imo.

[paper marsh]

Kinda funny how you're sometimes incentivized to die to keep the 10 minutes no skill loss going

[supple bear]

my max skill when i beat fader is usually run around 50-60

my weapon skills get into the high 40s

[paper marsh]

I'm running permadeath and running around Ashlands naked sounds quite scary to me

[supple bear]

people will tell you to not even enter ashlands unless you have like 50+ skills and im like lol

you asking them to die and lose like 3 hours of grinding

[chrome badge]

Challenge run unlocked, no skill loss must be active during the whole playthrough.

[paper marsh]

You'd fail on spawning in

[supple bear]

Thats not a challenge run though

Corpse run is extremely op

[chrome badge]

You'd have to die every 10 mins roughly.

[supple bear]

You can easily beat the game naked with it, if you're willing to spawn enough tombstones

[paper marsh]

I mean, I'd say being forced to die every 10 minutes is more of a challenge than having the option to

[chrome badge]

You'll need to build beds and shelters constantly.

[hard sluice]

dont speed runners create graves on purpose to activate corpse run?

[paper marsh]

There's varying difficulty with challenges

[supple bear]

you die with one stone in your inventory and repeat until as many tombstones as you want

then you have basically perm corpse run for that fight

its how i punched yag to death naked

a very slow process lol

[chrome badge]

Ratatosk is better than corpse anyways.

[supple bear]

corpse run makes you practically invincible

[paper marsh]

Better be less than 10 minutes or you'll have to die again

Pretty sure corpse run doesn't protect you from skill loss

[supple bear]

It doesnt need to because you can spawn as many tombstones as you want in 1 death timer window

[paper marsh]

Doesn't no skill loss trigger on death, not on picking up a tombstone?

[supple bear]

which means at a bare minimum you need suffer skill loss 7 times

Yes but you still get 10 minutes of no skill loss to die as much as you want

you can make quite a lot of tombstones

[paper marsh]

Oh you're just talking in general

I thought you were talking in terms of the no skill loss challenge

[supple bear]

No im talking about abusing corpse run

to punch bosses to death naked

probably wont work on fader though

[chrome badge]

Yeah that tactic is silly when you've mastered boss attack timing tbh

[supple bear]

Its funny

You can leroy fuling camps like that too

just go in with corpse run and an atgier and go hog wild

[chrome badge]

You can do that with Bonemass+Iron Brooch, and it's far less cheesy.

[hard sluice]

i feel weird about getting to ashlands with very high skill and almost no death...
its going to hurt even more when it happens :/

[supple bear]

Thats the beauty of valheim theres lots of ways to do everything

You can clear that same fuling camp by just standing on a rock and sniping them with draugr fang

or you can do the old call of duty train and spank

[chrome badge]

Not if it's Shaman heavy tbf.

[supple bear]

ive never seen more than 3 shamans in the same camp personally

they the first to die anyway

[chrome badge]

I've had camps with 5.

[slow flicker]

i always take out the shaman first then berserkers from a rock lol

[supple bear]

The shamans arent that bad

the shield can be annoying

shamans suffer the fate of every other ranged enemy in the game

[chrome badge]

Also spears are thrown, sometimes by 1 or two stars.

[supple bear]

they cant hit you if you bob and weave

[trail pelican]

now you can just toss some growth bombs into a fuling camp and enjoy the show

[hard sluice]

i used to clear them with the huntsman bow, but now i just think those fulings villages are too fun to raid, so i just go in with melee : P

[supple bear]

Yeah theres all kinds of ways to clear stuffin this game, ranging from abusive super cheese to try hard sweaty gamer god

mad lad beat the game with just a copper dagger and a dream

it only took him 400 hours rofl

[paper marsh]

For me it's hard to appreciate the beauty of different approaches in games, when some approaches are just so much easier it feels unfair

[supple bear]

I will admit i generally have a bad habit of just doing whatever i believe the most effective tactics are

Every run of valheim i've done has effectively been the same since like my 3rd playthrough

[tepid prawn]

I often set my own goals independent from world modifiers and such

[hard sluice]

its that min/maxing mindset :p

[supple bear]

I did play wow for 20 years

and was addicted to dark souls for 10 lol

[trail pelican]

there's for sure instances tho where there's at least 'roughly equally viable' ways

[supple bear]

I think the game is viable no matter what you play

Magic is just miles above everything else

Cant even see it from the ground without a telescope

[trail pelican]

lol

[supple bear]

Probably a good thing you can only use it for like the last 40% of the game

[paper marsh]

Same

Maybe not so much goals as challenges, but I got list of like 20 of them for my current run

[supple bear]

Them removing the stamina from parries did make melee builds pretty s tier though

parrying has always been strong, just not against groups

and the parry window in this game is nuts

you get like a whole second to react

[paper marsh]

Eh to me melee has never been S tier

Because melee requires skill which means if you don’t have skill you get reckt and if you get rekt with melee I can’t really justify a universal s tier for it

[supple bear]

It requires more skill than magic or ranged but thats not really saying much

[hard sluice]

(according to the wiki, its .25 seconds before the attack, for a parry)

[supple bear]

The combat in this game is not that complex and very forgiving. The only thing that makes it rough is terrain, which they've supposedly made better

like i said you can avoid most enemies by just moving backwards and to the left or right lol

[tepid prawn]

Primal Axes S tier for me

[supple bear]

greydwarves, draugrs, skeletons, fulings, all basically have the same attack animation and speed

meaning if you can parry one you can parry all of them

[tepid prawn]

I love the hybrid setup with those and Staff of the Wild and Protection, is all I need

[hard sluice]

it depends to what game you are comparing the combat, in my opinion...
compare it to dark souls... maybe not.

[supple bear]

Staff of the wild is going to "Slap" Deep north

[tepid prawn]

I wonder if DN will bring something that can deal with so many situations bringing only 3 weapons

[supple bear]

its gonna get 1 more upgrade from deep north gauldr table upgrade

right now ashlands gear only goes to tier 3

[tepid prawn]

gem ones only to 2

I have a gemmed one level 3 from PTB, or maybe it was a Level 4 non gemmed, was possible because of some unintended thing on PTB with the workstations

[shy marlin]

worth noting that upgrading staff of wilds really isn't all that impactful

the vines, which do the majority of the damage, are only affected by elemetal magic skill, not the quality of the staff, upgrading the staff increases durability and the actual projectile hit damage, that's it

[tepid prawn]

both durability and the projectile damage increase does SLAP though imo!

[shy marlin]

the actual projectile dmg increase is so small tho in comparison to vine dmg

durability is prolly the best benefit

[supple bear]

the blunt damage literally doubles each upgrade?

[tepid prawn]

The projectile damage is not small, when you're attacking necks with it 😂

[supple bear]

Granted the magic damage is still most of it, but double seems significant

[shy marlin]

no it's +20

there's a difference

[supple bear]

We will have to see how many smacks it takes to makes to kill a polarbear

They are likely to be one of the more tanky enemies in the biome

[tepid prawn]

So many people think there will be another bear, I wonder if that will be the case

[supple bear]

Its almost guarunteed

[tepid prawn]

||I want to tame me some 🦭||

[supple bear]

it even fits into bear progression as the deep north is a 2 biome gap from the plains

just like the plains is a 2 biome gap from black forest

[subtle solstice]

Is there just no posts in lfg

[supple bear]

The polar bear is the most obvious thing in the update of all time

[tepid prawn]

BF Bear, no swamp bear, no mtn bear, Plains bear, no Mist bear, no Ash bear, you are right

[supple bear]

In fact the polar bear was probably designed first

and the other bears just use different skins

[tepid prawn]

plenty of posts there including from me haha

use filters etc

[subtle solstice]

I don't see any

[supple bear]

#TheBearIsNotALie

You will fight polar bears in a permanent blizzard and like it

[subtle solstice]

Nvm

[chrome badge]

It's still an assumption that there will be a polar bear, I wouldn't be surprised if they sidestep what's obvious as they have before.

[subtle solstice]

They appeared now

[supple bear]

Its a pretty reasonable assumption

There's also likely to be a horse

[chrome badge]

Yeah, no.

[supple bear]

Smiffe said himself a horse is the single most requested feature. Which is odd to me because the game already has mounts

A horse would just be a reskin of something we already have

[chrome badge]

Could be*, and it's been confirmed by Smiffe that it will never happen.

You aren't supposed to depend on mounts in any capacity, this isn't Palworld. 😛

[half shoal]

A tamable Valkyrs to fly you around in their talons.

[supple bear]

I dont understand the point of them at all

I tried using a lox once but it was clunky AF

faster to just run myself

if they could haul carts then maybe

[chrome badge]

It's just a fun gimmick.

Oh god no, clunky cart hauling physics based carts is just asking for trouble. Just give saddle bags if anything.

[supple bear]

Yeah idk how anyone uses those things. You basically have to make a road for them

in the long run its probably faster to just run multiple trips

or just put your base next to the node lol

[chrome badge]

They're okay in the plains, if you have Lox to spare, you can run them into a Fuling encampment and let them take some of the focus.

Most tames are decent for where they originate.

[supple bear]

i know you can use them to cheese dverger settlementa

but that seems liek a lot of work when you can just run

[chrome badge]

Yeah, if you're going to bank on something to take aggro, just lead a Soldier over or something.

[supple bear]

I live that nomad life anyway so i dont have to do long hauls or ocean trips

Its insane how much time you save never sailing XD

[chrome badge]

I love sailing with some choice soundtracks.

Keeping an eye out for 5 star fish.

[supple bear]

even large bases drive me nuts because of all the time wasted walking around

i like to be able to stand in one spot and access everything

Can you still hook fish while sailing?

just toss the line out and sit down, it automatically hooks lol

[chrome badge]

Yeah, if you paddle in a raft you can basically trawl entire rivers.

[supple bear]

Back in my day there was just fish

the ocean fish gave you more fish than shore fish

[chrome badge]

That's basically still the case, I'll try and locate 3-4 biomes in deep waters near each other and create a fishing dock there to cover all spawns.

[rotund parrot]

I use lox to ride on no map no portal often

[supple bear]

doing a run like that without being a nomad is scary

[rotund parrot]

Nothing more satisfying than just running through a forest downing all the trees down since the lox just doesn't care

[shell edge]

I like Valhime

[rotund parrot]

You may run faster than the lox but the lox has much more endurance than you!

[supple bear]

Not when i use my dragonborne shouts to envoke the deer god

[rotund parrot]

Even then

[supple bear]

wait can you still use trolls and lox as boats

by standing on top of them

[trail pelican]

FUS RO DEER!

[supple bear]

Anyone here familiar with the Frigid Outskirts

[paper marsh]

AFAIK yes

Don’t think anything’s changed with them recently

[stark steeple]

I think this has been already asked but if you had a world created before the patch will the new axes be added to that seed? Or do we need to create a new one?

[supple bear]

its always been the same

[hard sluice]

i think the axe heads will only appear in meadows that have not been explored yet

[supple bear]

ungenerated areas

[copper karma]

Oh no hotfix today?

[split adder]

why does volture meat cook faster than seeker meat despite being much larger

is that volture hollow or something

[paper marsh]

I'd more think that seeker meat is just tougher and needs more heat to make it tender / fully cooked through?

[lapis pagoda]

i love modding valheim buuuuut im already waiting solid 2 minutes for it to launch

[supple bear]

dont be cooking that vulture meat

Mashed Meat #1

[split adder]

how do i make that

[supple bear]

askvin tail, volture meat, fiddlehead

the fiddleheads grow in destroyed building POIs

[fossil delta]

Have you upgraded your cooking station to Ashlands?

[split adder]

no

[supple bear]

Yeah you gotta do that

The boneserpent meat is a good source of easy stats until you get it

[fossil delta]

Yeah, recipes don't unlock until the upgrade.

[supple bear]

askvin tail works too plus youll get plenty

[terse wagon]

Is that one made at the prep table? Sounds like it needs an oven

[supple bear]

mashed meat isnt oven

[fossil delta]

Boneserpent or Vulture? Bone serpent is on the iron hooks.

[supple bear]

the piqant pie or whatever is

its the only food that has higher health than mashed meat IIRC

[terse wagon]

Oh, yes I've seen that one

[fossil delta]

Oh, forgot you mentioned mashed meat. 😄

[supple bear]

but mashed meat is way easier to get in bulk

[terse wagon]

Was curious, because I've always play mage role when I hit mistlands

[supple bear]

Same mashed meat is the one hp food i use lol

meat platters for mistlands

[terse wagon]

Man I still use I salads for stamina because it's easy to mass produce, best return on investment

[supple bear]

yeah i generally use whatever is easiest

i dont have stam issues so i run health eitr eitr

[paper marsh]

I more or less stopped using stamina foods

[supple bear]

If you have good stam management you dont really need stam foods as a mage

your entire stamina bar is dedicated to defense

[terse wagon]

I use 2 Eitr 1 Stam, with feather cloak, I'm constantly jumping around evading or going up top to kite

[fossil delta]

I have so many eggs getting dropped I can stick with omelets most of the time. Salads are a great back up, or alternative, though.

[supple bear]

i dont bother with chickens they too expensive XD

[fossil delta]

Now a days I usually get them for free in one of the towers.

[supple bear]

The plains towers?

Isn't there like 3 of those per the entire map

[fossil delta]

Yeah, Sealed twr, I think they are called.

[supple bear]

I've only ever even seen one XD

[nocturne wolf]

if you find hildir she can mark them on the map

[fossil delta]

Worth going to, imo, not just for the free eggs.

[terse wagon]

Yeah I've never once bought chickens, I only needed feathers early game and they're easy to come by through looting chests, chopping down trees early on etc

[supple bear]

Yeah but those things are really spread out across the map

I have a severe allergy to sailing

I will literally die if im on a boat for more than 5 minutes