valheim-chat

[wet wolf]

i would swap bonemass and fader. and also swap elder and eikthr

[vast lily]

I don't mind people judging me. I feel like eikthyrs power is good for early game (maybe mistlands) but Moders power kinda makes eikthyrs redundant. Not to mention having more uses.

[nocturne wolf]

With the right setup Eikthyr can bring your sprint or jump stamina to 0%, allowing you to regenerate stamina while performing those actions

But I guess that’s less useful with the new parry cost

[vast lily]

Well agreed, the asksvin ranger set stacks as well.

But otherwise I don't think any forsaken powers are terrible, more like all of them are really good to use. I'd go with what has the most use.

[nocturne wolf]

Asksvin isn’t just for rangers

[tacit crystal]

Ask set best set.

[idle storm]

Eikthyr is a pretty good defensive power for mage builds too, not just for travel.
You don't really need the extra running speed from Moder to dodge so it doesn't do anything for you in combat. On the other hand running and jumping for less than half sta cost is a much bigger boost to your survivability than throwing Bonemass on top of your robes.

[nocturne wolf]

Jump stamina is good defence for everyone, why mages specifically?

[idle storm]

it's good on all builds that don't wear heavy armor

just mages specifically because the new Bonemass doesn't do that much for them

same thing applies if you're wearing Fenris because with defense that low Bonemass just doesn't help that much

[fallen owl]

What do you guys think about trinkets?

For me trinkets feel a bit useless. I play on the highest difficulty and either I kill the mob or the mob basically one or two-shots me. Maybe for boss fights, but even then, the duration is too low. I just can't find a use case for them, unless taking away another slot in my inventory.

[wet wolf]

the adrenaline needed feels slightly too high cause by the time they activate normally most things are already dead but i also play on normal and it is a nice buff to have

[idle storm]

Depends on your build and biome. Parry build in the black forest at night or the Ashlands? You'll have constant uptime. Same for when you're raiding fuling villages.
Mages have it even easier since every staff except the frost staff adds adrenaline on use instead of on hit and resets your adrenaline decay timer so you can't really NOT proc them.
If you're going somewhere like the mountains during daytime i'd leave the trinket at home, it's not going to proc unless there's a wolf raid.

Basically if you're a build that reliably generates high adrenaline and goes somewhere with lots of combat then yes, otherwise leave the slot free for loot.

[tough mulch]

Or well, carry some low adrenalin cost trinkets, I think 50 procs occasionally especially in later games where enemy density increases

[hard sluice]

I use the bronze pendant and i like it, its a nice buff and its easy to get.
But on 'highest difficulty', i assume is 'very hard combat', the experience is probably very different. i can't even imagine. hard was already very difficult for me.

i dont struggle to get it to proc at all... but i use parrying a lot, and i think it might be the best way to get adrenaline.

i read somewhere that the carapace buckler might be giving more adrenaline on parry than supposed to, so maybe thats why.

[dusky anvil]

Advice on how to properly ventilate the campfire? Keep getting inconvenienced by the smoked debuff

[tough mulch]

Two ways, make the ceiling so tall the smoke layer doesnt reach your character

Or make hole the smoke can leave from + a roof above that hole

Well theres also a third option of just leaving the campfire outside since its rested radius is decently large

[nocturne pasture]

stop teasing, release deep north

[near furnace]

will do. in due time 🫡

[dusky anvil]

Quick question

Is it true that Haldor can only spawn 1500m or closer from the spawn point?

[idle storm]

1500m or further, not closer.

[dusky anvil]

Or at least around that area

[dusky anvil]

Is there no limit to the range?

[idle storm]

Not as far as i know, aside from the spawn range of black forests

[dusky anvil]

One other question

Do ships move around if you're not in them?

[tough mulch]

nope

they stop instantly when you jump off them

there is an exception though, if you park it too close to obstacles or the shoreline a storm can cause it to bump into something making drift a bit further than where it was

[tacit crystal]

Black forest can appear even near the Eastern/Western edges, which means Haldor might have possible spawn points up to that distance.

[near furnace]

yes and no. ^
just like Joelkkii says, he can't spawn outside of his biomes spawn range

[west mica]

I didnt know Mistlands could spawn so close to the centre

I go west /east when going ot Mistlands

Based on this, would be better to just head south

Then anywhere you set up is a forward operating base to go into Ashlands

[tough mulch]

interesting graph, no wonder I cant find meadows far out its actually the smaller biome

[west mica]

I'd be surprised if mountains countinue to exist in deep north after 1.0

[tacit crystal]

It's little outdated tho, swamps can appear only up to 6000m.

[tough mulch]

why? mountains make sense in deep north

[tacit crystal]

Since Mistlands update changed world gen for swamps appearing up to 6000m and Mistlands appearing closer to the center than pre-Mistlands update.

Older worlds have smaller and more packed Mistlands areas.

[dusky anvil]

Found him

[tough mulch]

time to get one of the best items in the game

[tacit crystal]

Ah, Iron sledge.

[dusky anvil]

Carry weight +150?

[tough mulch]

lol thats op, but yeah +150 weight

you need to unlock ymir flesh for hammertime

[dusky anvil]

If i can find finewood, that is

[tough mulch]

oaktress, best finewood source in the game

[dusky anvil]

He spawned in the middle of a black forest and swamp biome

[tough mulch]

uhhhh I dont think you'll find finewood in any of those biomes

corewood, take it or leave it

[dusky anvil]

Small stroke of luck, there was also a small meadow biome nearby and I see a birch tree or 2

[tough mulch]

lucky

if it was me im pretty sure I would need to run into plains to get finewood

[dusky anvil]

Portal has been made

[rare lichen]

This chart is awesome !
Ive never seen it before

[dusky anvil]

I got the item. So, what's next? Do I look for more iron to upgrade gear or something else?

[tough mulch]

take all the iron in the swamp, they will come handy

this game relies alot on iron

[dusky anvil]

I could tell

But should I keep my troll armor or get something better?

It would take a ton of time, though

[tough mulch]

you need to replace it, and there is the perfect gear in the swamp

[dusky anvil]

That being?

[tough mulch]

you need to kill an abomination though, maybe a few.
root harness will help you all the way to mistlands, some even say its viable in ashlands

the mask will help you deal with the swamps poison mechanics but needs to be replaced outside of it

[dusky anvil]

Got 30 iron for now. Do I spend it on a pickaxe?

[tough mulch]

definitely, bronze mines too slow and loses durability fast

lvl2 Iron pick is the sweetspot for me in the sawmp, enough durability to mine decently large crepts without having to go back for repairs

[dusky anvil]

Really starting to get a bit annoyed on how metal can't be teleported

Nice idea for ships, bad idea for time

[frozen fable]

oh yeah you really do want the iron pickaxe, it's way better than the bronze

[dusky anvil]

That is the plan, just hate how I need to go to another place entirely to mine things like copper, but realize my copper ore amd forge locations are quite far away

[frozen fable]

what you can do is where you are on the map now, go ahead make the iron pickaxe, and then maybe think about transporting your base to another location closer by, and building another base. You could do the build and then move everything there. You can pack your workbench and forge there, or you can just carry the materials to build another workbench/forge in your new base

it's common to have 2-3 bases on a full playthrough, although there are definitely people who do just one base

[tough mulch]

I just carry the forge with me, well specifically the metals the forge needs and its related upgrades

[dusky anvil]

Upgrades to the forge cost bronze. Can't break it down and then teleport

[mint pagoda]

hello guys can you help me and share some discord servers with valheim mp, or maybe someone is about to start coop and i may join them

[tough mulch]

try server-and-ifg

[idle storm]

ship your ore at night and then it's at least a chance for serpent farming instead of 15 minutes of nothing happening.

[tough mulch]

carry the ingots only for upgrades on the ship and use portal to bring over the remaining materials that is not portal banned

[tacit obsidian]

When will version 1.0 be released? Is there any information available?

[frozen fable]

Pack it all into the longship and move it, or since you have the iron pickaxe, you can easily find a Black Forest close to your new base location and mine the materials again, the Iron Pickaxe will make the mining go so much faster, and even faster if you use the Elder power while you're mining

[tough mulch]

serpant scared the sht out of my group the first time we saw it, I didn't know it was such a pushover

[idle storm]

yeah they're not all that threatening once you've figured them out

[tough mulch]

oh yeah, also get enough Iron to make a longship, much better than the karve

(and honestly somewhat better than the drakkar)

[abstract warren]

Hard to find more frost caves...

[dusky anvil]

How did i just get 2 shot by a random wolf? I looked away for 3 seconds

[dusky anvil]

Check out this website https://share.google/E8glTJU4I0uRt1yxy

[abstract warren]

Looks a bit like cheating

[tough mulch]

Troll armor wont save you from wolf, and the mountain is the biome after swamp btw

[dusky anvil]

It's mostly putting in the world seed and helping you find certain things

So you don't HAVE to use it, but you gave problem, I gave potential solution

[idle storm]

i like the karve for exploring because it's much more nimble and able to go up shallow rivers compared to the longboat (let's not even talk about the drakkar).

[dusky anvil]

Copper deposit was next to 7 Graydwarves, a troll, and 2 wolves

[idle storm]

longboat is only for long distance and transporting stuff

[tough mulch]

I mined rivers open before, then I realizes I could just break the boat and run to the otherside

And then... I got lazier and just used the raft to go to the nearest island and stuff

[abstract warren]

Yeah I I'd just rather use a more natural method to find them if you know what I mean

[tough mulch]

Taller mountain = more caves, thats how I do it

[dusky anvil]

Which i respect that decision

But hey, if you ever change your mind, it's always there

[dusky anvil]

Well, yeah. But I still got 2 shot. And still couldn't outrun the thing because it rained at that exact moment

[tough mulch]

I will say, even if it didn't rain you still wouldn't outrun them

[abstract warren]

Whoa I just found a whole skeleton underground

Thought it was silver

[tough mulch]

Unless you were popping so ratatosk and maybe moder

[abstract warren]

Silver necklace though

[tough mulch]

Giant black skeleton??

[abstract warren]

Nah regular one

[tough mulch]

Oh

[abstract warren]

Lying down

"Skeletal remains"

[tough mulch]

interesting first Ive heard of that

[abstract warren]

Same

Good that I didn't ignore it. Cuz I don't really need anymore silver

[dusky anvil]

At least let me have hope (._.)

[abstract warren]

But now I can craft that cool treasure chest decoration

[dusky anvil]

By the way, what is the food preparation table and should I consider it?

[tough mulch]

If you got lucky and run into a crept or dungeon you would have survived

[tough mulch]

If you wanna make higher lvl food definitely

This game really wants you to eat food and use meads

Speaking of the cauldron should be avaible for you now, its definitely worth it

[dusky anvil]

Which i probably will. If I could consistently find meat and monster parts, that is

[tough mulch]

Some food are cheaper than others so no problem there

[dusky anvil]

And I know. I have a few foods. Mainly the jam, deer stew, and the carrot stew

[tough mulch]

Much better than me, I just ate roasted deer, roasted pork and a bit of honey to raid the swamp

[dusky anvil]

Out ran the wolf this ti- BEAR NO

Phew...

[flat brook]

huh, guys? i just created a world, and next to the spawn was a boar stone, and a 1 star boar spawned? wth ? How is it possible, did something change?

[silk token]

what part of that seems wrong? a boar stone close to spawn or a 1 star at it?

[west mica]

1 star boars can spawn in the centre of the world if its a stone

Make sure you tame it since they dont respawn

[flat brook]

oh ok

[west mica]

Put a fence around the mf

[flat brook]

lol XD

i have 1152 hrs in this game, and somehow i always learn something new

[dusky anvil]

1152 >_>

Why is it so hard to get acorns and birch saplings?

[west mica]

birch, please

Is what youre saying right now

[dusky anvil]

3 birch trees, 0 saplings

[west mica]

I've never planted trees tbh

I keep a portal near a plains forrest for lots of birch

[tough mulch]

The drop rate for birch seeds and oakseeds is criminally low

So low my server had a civil war on it

[abstract warren]

I love the scythe

Such a QoL upgrade

[dusky anvil]

By the way, which is better? Buckler or shield?

[gray sand]

If you parry - buckler.

[dusky anvil]

Buckler it is

[dusky anvil]

And yeah. Couldn't hurt to buff the drop rate soon

[solar quail]

Whats the droprate for bear trophy?

[gray sand]

Roughly 10% if memory serves.

[lusty dirge]

Even exactly

[frozen fable]

if you think bear trophy is hard to get, man wait til you want the Cultist trophy lol

[lusty dirge]

or a stone golem or fuling berserker trophy

[gray sand]

Golem is the only one that I personally bias as "rare." Rest of them drop pretty routinely.

[abstract warren]

Man the bear set is so cool

Too bad I'm way overlevelled for it now

[gray sand]

Hat is too big imo, but the bonus is nice.

[lusty dirge]

Golem and fenring I'd say. Because they are both kind of rare enemies

[gray sand]

This game has levels?

[abstract warren]

*Overprogressed lol

[gray sand]

10% Slash bonus has a cap on being good? 🤔

[abstract warren]

Hmm idk I guess it could still work

But the paws are kinda weak now

[gray sand]

+15% Stam Regen, +30% Health Regen

[abstract warren]

Just hunted a deer like a crazy berserker

[gray sand]

Well yeah, Paws -> Fenris Claws -> Vilebone for weapons.

Vilebone is fine for Mistlands but sort of drops off in Ash as a viable weapon.

[digital basin]

Is the Bear sett not best fore axe mains?

[gray sand]

Best is subjective.
The bonuses are really nice for axe users though.

[abstract warren]

How come the troll set feels so much faster than root set

Really doesn't feel like just s 4% difference

[tough mulch]

Thats why I prefer replacing the leggings with a fenris legging to offset any ms debuff

Oh, and NEVER use root leggings

Bro its only modifier is being weak to fire like wtf why would I wear this

[abstract warren]

Well I very much liked the archery bonus

[abstract warren]

Yeah so far it didn't make any difference till I encountered the cultists

[tough mulch]

Not many things have fire dmg in the game so its fine for the most part, but Bows are OP as is and you dont really need to go out of your way to make the whole root set

Unless... You use the +archery to speed up afk farming archery skills on twig

[idle storm]

the set bonus makes the initial archery leveling a lot less painful. And there's really little reason not to wear the full set in the swamp and initial mountains since there is no fire damage outside of frost caves and surtling spawners. So no point crafting anything else after troll when wolf/fenris is right around the corner.

[tough mulch]

Fair point

[glad lantern]

Hello

[tough mulch]

Hello

[glad lantern]

I am new person

[tough mulch]

You can also cheese the cultist in the caves by dropping a corewood bench on their entrance and shooting them with arrows

[glad lantern]

Empecé hoy.

[tough mulch]

Oh but iron is still useful on the mountains since root harness set doesnt have any defense against wolf(they do slash and not pierce)

[green reef]

I really like the bear armor.

[abstract warren]

Yeah it's quite cool

Just finally got the fenris set though 🔥

[tough mulch]

Careful, its easy to get addicted to the ms bonus of that set and everything else just feels slow

[abstract warren]

Too late lol

I always go for speed anyway

[tacit crystal]

https://giphy.com/gifs/room-HdcimOKferlkI

[proven pebble]

Was moders wind ability removed?

[tacit crystal]

Tailwind when sailing has not been removed.

[abstract warren]

I thought we can't directly post gifs here..?

[tacit crystal]

That's for regular users.

[proven pebble]

Yess, thanks

[abstract warren]

Ah

[tacit crystal]

Devs, moderators and helpers have embed perms.

[tough mulch]

If I, put a raft on land and rode it, does it count as sailing?

[abstract warren]

I wanna get at least some upgrades for my fenris armour but I'm getting tired of these mountains

[tough mulch]

Fenris upgrade is a bit hard to farm since caves are rare and mountains are a pain without feather cape

Ive only ever upgraded my leggings

[barren whale]

leggings are the best piece hell yea

[paper marsh]

Really? I usually find a good handful of caves

I do scout around for a real big mountain though, or go for one that has a hildr frost cave

[tough mulch]

You'd need atleast 2 big mountains to fully upgrade your fenris set

[shy marlin]

depends

I got fully upgraded fenris from one mtn with 7 frost caves

[abstract warren]

Just found another cave yay

[gray sand]

Spawn Hair 😏

[paper marsh]

2 average sounds about right

Sometimes 1 is enough

It's more about the cultist trophy luck imo

[abstract warren]

The method is basically to circle the mountain and look up I guess. They always appear around the edges

[tired path]

Average life of a 15 year old boy

[abstract warren]

It's not needed for the upgrades is it?

[paper marsh]

No, but its needed to craft the helmet in the first place

[tough mulch]

I have bad rng so it would take me 2 and one small mountain for fully upgrade

[abstract warren]

Yeah but I got 2 in no time

[tough mulch]

Same the trophy is a high drop rate no?

[paper marsh]

Probably because rng favored you. I've tried going to 6-7 caverns without having it drop

[tough mulch]

I didn't know it was rare

[tired path]

Btw, unrelated question: what things didn't make it to the Ashlands release? I know that the fortresses were supposed to have a cellar that acted like a whole new dungeon. Is there anything else? I refuse to believe that Lord Reto's design is exactly what they had in mind.

[paper marsh]

10%. So you're gambling on both 10% rng as well as gambling on whether the frost cave will have cultists

Usually its not an issue for me, but it can be sometimes just because its very rng dependent. The hair feels closer to a guarantee

[abstract warren]

Yeah I got Odin on my side

[tough mulch]

There are frost caves with no cultists??

[paper marsh]

Never heard about the cellar other than from fan suggestions, but the early ashlands fort designs looked sick af, unfortunately devs weren't able to implement them like that

Ashlands used to be a lot more unforgiving, with faster spawn rates and a bug that alerted all enemies within 100m-ish to your location fairly often

[tough mulch]

Im lucky not to experience that

[tired path]

a bug that alerted all enemies within 100m-ish to your location fairly often
Jesus fuck dude what

[tough mulch]

And normal ashlands is already a pain

[paper marsh]

bug as in game bug, not insect

Whenever trees in the ashlands lit on fire, it would count as a player chopping them and it would alert nearby enemies

Honestly a pretty fun time, though very challenging

[tired path]

yeah, yeah, I understood that it wasn't intended

[shy marlin]

I miss the PTB ashlands experience

Same with mistlands

[tired path]

Is there anywhere where I can see those designs? I like looking at pre-release stuff

[paper marsh]

I wish I got to experience ptb mistlands

Seekers sounded fun. Now they feel like a non-issue to deal with

[split adder]

maybe it wasnt a bug, just the enemies being smart and knowing that if the trees are loaded in and burning, you are nearby

[tough mulch]

Ai too good they had to nerf it

[abstract warren]

Just got a 3rd one 😬

[barren whale]

hard mode should just be the OG versions of those two

[shy marlin]

Not only that, but the gjall 2nd fireball timer was brutal

[paper marsh]

https://www.ign.com/wikis/valheim/Valheim_Ashlands_Update_Patch_Notes

Or search "charred fortress initial designs" and stuff will prob pop up

[shy marlin]

And seeker soldiers spawned a lot

[tough mulch]

The round fortress design looks perfect for a shield generator

But then again the gausten wouldn't fit as snuggly as the current design

[split adder]

im assuming that the queen vegviser is somewhere in infested mines

[chrome badge]

I'm glad those biomes were adjusted to accommodate players with less skill, I want more people to enjoy Valheim.

[abstract warren]

All 3 pieces have exactly the same stats

[tired path]

Oh yeah, those fortress designs are cool as hell

They do look like there would be a dungeon inside

[barren whale]

they are good in mixed sets because other helms/chests have desirable effects but no other legs do

[shy marlin]

they did say they wanted to have a dungeon inside

[paper marsh]

ngl, I was so disappointed when I saw my first fort after the update dropped

It's the one major thing that really detracts from the Ashlands for me. I think they did a good job with weapons, armor, enemy variety, and the boss tho

[dusky anvil]

Which weapon should I make?

[abstract warren]

I just upgraded them and now can either do another upgrade or upgrade both of the other pieces....

[paper marsh]

which biome?

[abstract warren]

What should I do

I think I might be using this set for awhile so I think I'll upgrade the other two pieces

[dusky anvil]

Swamp currently

[paper marsh]

Fenris: Helmet is worst because though it gives +3% movespeed, it doesn't take away -5% because helmets never have -5%

Chest is second worst because you often want to swap that out with root harnesk

Legs are great

[paper marsh]

Many people like the mace, there's a lot of enemeis weak to it. But go for what you like. I'd maybe stay clear of the spear but otherwise there's no bad options imo

[barren whale]

dang i completely forgot about these
might build a round charred fort and see how it looks with just the ingame prefabs

[shy marlin]

I think it would be cool if they did an ashlands audit post 1.0

[dusky anvil]

Is the iron axe worth investing in?

[split adder]

is the galdr table necessary

[shy marlin]

ye

[chrome badge]

Absolutely, especially if you want the best cape.

[gray sand]

Best is subjective.

[tired path]

I mean, it makes total sense right

[chrome badge]

It is, good thing my username is above my message.

[paper marsh]

A bit faster at chopping wood, doesn't allow you to cut any new type of wood though. It's a decent weapon, though usually people find sword to be a slightly better axe

Now iron BATTLEAXE, that's a fun one

[tired path]

On the other hand, having larger, more dangerous fortresses also makes the catapult have more use, since it leaves you less exposed

[dusky anvil]

Okay, so which is better at killing abomination and playing defensively for parries

Battleaxe or bronze buckler + iron sword?

[paper marsh]

Probably sword

[gray sand]

Buckler has higher parry. And at that stage upgrade to the iron one.

[paper marsh]

Battleaxe is probably also harder to learn how to use effectively, so might not be a good first weapon

[gray sand]

It's just a hair too slow for me to ever recommend.

Yacko, ofc, will have the complete opposite opinion.

[dusky anvil]

So swap to iron for both

Will take some investment, but sure

[gray sand]

You will never stop needing iron. 😄

[tough mulch]

I love the battleaxe but it really takes timing and a bit of skill

[paper marsh]

Yeah I felt that way for a long time too

Now though, I somehow find swords/maces a bit slow, but am ok with the battleaxe

[tough mulch]

One handed weapons + shields are more forgiving and cost less stamina per attack too

[barren whale]

aboms should take 50% chop damage (added) change my mind

[gray sand]

The fact things recover from stagger before you hit them is why I find it literally a tenth of a second too slow.

[urban forge]

yo any french people ? 🙂

[gray sand]

About 68.5 million.

[tough mulch]

So close to greatness

Yet it misses 0.5 more

[barren whale]

you can parry aboms just fine with a bronze buckler
but realistically if you're low stamina (common in swamp) just pull them over a fire pit and parry them

[urban forge]

facts

[paper marsh]

After what, a parry?

I find I usually do pretty good staggering with secondary, getting maybe one staggered hit in with first primary attack, then second primary restaggering and third one doing big damage

[gray sand]

Both. Parry and Poke.
There's a number of enemies that don't recover, but there's a larger number that do. And that's my issue with it.

[paper marsh]

Yeah it can be annoying. I have a similar problem with maces too

[tough mulch]

Battleaxe vs soldiers is one of my harder matchups

[gray sand]

Maces have too much knock imo.

[paper marsh]

Yeah doesn't feel good. I'll swap to a carapace spear or something

[gray sand]

And the root problem is that knockback scales with skill.
If they took that off, I would like maces a LOT more.

[tough mulch]

I swapped to my building hammer and just went campfire mode

[gray sand]

Seeker Soldier is the ONE enemy that I find Frostner good againt -- because you don't actually push them back and can just swing it.

[tough mulch]

I don't have secondary weapons except arbalest which is also not that good vs soldier

[paper marsh]

Arbalest is only good against soldiers if you also have shield staff

[tough mulch]

Frostner is good against nearly everything though

[paper marsh]

so you can parry then fire on weakspot

[gray sand]

Strongest of disagrees.

[paper marsh]

debateable. The big issue is that it just knocks everything very far away, making followups difficult

[gray sand]

My weapon should not prevent me from killing my enemies.

[gray sand]

Which is fixed if they take the knock scaling out of the skill and just give the weapon its flat amount 😭

[tough mulch]

The benefit is the slow + spirit dmg that allows alot of room to maneuver

[shy marlin]

yea there's value in control

but if control is the main goal, should just atgeir imo

it's more control, and has better follow up

[paper marsh]

Which is why its debateable. It depends on if you value cc more or dps more

[tough mulch]

I have neither, im an axe user, I don't pop off till ashlands

I dunno, I just like axes, its very viking

[vivid wren]

Any updates on ps5 release? I miss this game dearly from when I had pc 😭

[shy marlin]

all we know is 2026

[vivid wren]

🫡 I shall remain

[proven pebble]

moder is the worst boss in valheim

[paper marsh]

Aw, I like her

Bonemass is the worst for me

[tough mulch]

Moder is fine till every other mod around you decides to join the party

[paper marsh]

Honestly it makes the fight better for me if some drakes and wolves join in. Kinda shakes it up and keeps it interesting

A golem is rough though

[gray sand]

Which I would find far more appealing if Frostner was a 2-handed hammer.

[tough mulch]

How about 2 golems

[gray sand]

Because...?

[proven pebble]

at least he isn't in the air for 50% of the fight and you fight him on flat terrain

[rare lichen]

Theres some cool stuff in the game files still

• Large and small meteors that spin and explode when they hit the ground (maybe one of these are Yagluth's meteors on second thought... they are the same ones IG showed in an Ashlands teaser at some point, meteors raining down from the sky)
• A huge explosion that was originally intended for the Shield Generator
• A Charred Shield Generator

[tough mulch]

Problem is, if it was two handed it would follow the same attack pattern as the other two handed hammers no?

honestly, the attack combo for hammers need more variety and the ground slam should be considered secondary attack

[gray sand]

Which I would be totally fine with, as the goal is control. So mass AoE knockback + mass AoE slow = amazing weapon.

Single-target weapon that keeps pushing what I am trying to kill away from me = counter-productive, immediately switch to a more serviceable weapon.

[abstract warren]

Omg I found a HUGE frost cave

With stairs going wayyyy down

[tough mulch]

Noice

[prime plume]

could be part of hildirs quest, goodluck

[tough mulch]

Once again, the wooden club is a perfectly designed weapon

[gray sand]

Indeed.

[rare lichen]

Those are the best. I love it when I think a dungeons done, but then I find a whole new branch thats HUGE!
The Dungeon generation in Valheim is really cool. Theres a few unique rooms I had no idea existed until I started doing some more dev stuff with dungeons

[abstract warren]

Oh I don't think I took them yet

[gray sand]

Again, the problem isn't the base knock, it's that the skill multiplies your knock 😭

[tough mulch]

Love it when I find a dungeon with only 1 metal scrap pile

[rare lichen]

Jajaja yea the inverse also happens
Negative space and all that

[gray sand]

Wait until you find dungeons with multiple, long hallways and turns with zero scrap piles 😄

[prime plume]

Best I found was a marsh with about 10-20 crypts. I have yet to look into them.

[tough mulch]

what blasphemous rng pull is that brother

[gray sand]

Like if you go in, and there is no halls at all -- cool, no harm no foul, next crypt.

[prime plume]

my broter in christ u saw my map XD

[rare lichen]

Whenever I do Sunken Crypts most of the iron comes from the chests
Sometimes you find that small crypt that has like, 8 chests of 20-30 iron scrap
Other times you get a huge crypt with no chests xD

[tough mulch]

Not you the other guy

[gray sand]

That's a very large range, are you sure you counted properly?

[proven pebble]

she feels janky to fight and lowkey a lot of hp, i mean the huntsman with obsidian arrows is barely scratching her. I said in the past that shes thematically interesting since shes a dragon but Fader exists now sooo yeah

i don't mind difficult bosses but she just feels akward

[tough mulch]

Dont say that moder, youll make her cry

[gray sand]

For comparison, tell me something highkey about her?

[prime plume]

pretty sure there's 10 not sure if it passes that so, why I said 10-20

[split adder]

i like how the mistlands is difficult and somewhat lengthy without making you spend half of your time mining and processing ore

[paper marsh]

Bow damage very much depends on bow skill, so if you don't have bow skill it might be more like tickles. But then you just gotta go in melee to do big damage whenever she lands

[gray sand]

Mistlands you spend half your time looking for the stuff you have to mine 😄

[proven pebble]

what?

[tough mulch]

Wait till you start mining ancient armor

[gray sand]

Which words were unclear?

[tough mulch]

Not that you need to mine it of course

[prime plume]

@gray sand there's exactly 20.

[proven pebble]

i am aware of how her fight goes im just saying that out of all the bosses i find her the least enjoyable

[gray sand]

Nice.

[rare lichen]

Personally Moder is my favorite boss. I like her design a lot and the artisan table is a huge game changer reward wise for building. Thats when you really "unlock" Valheim's building
Sometimes it is sad how Moder's pathfinding works though, yeah

[prime plume]

what're the chances some of them are empty?

[tough mulch]

Moder vs cliffs is the true boss fight

[prime plume]

nah it's me vs the camera.

[tough mulch]

Low but not impossible

[lone rampart]

Moder is the first boss I feel bad about fighting, and starts making me think we’re the villains in this world

[proven pebble]

at least they improved the hitboxes on uneven terrain, i remember it being very bad

[tough mulch]

The first thing we kill in the game is an oversized deer that loves nature

[rare lichen]

Yeah 🙂
They made spears easier to use theyre quite strong now

[prime plume]

there's no inherent good or bad. were just warriors fighting for a seat at odin's hall.

[tough mulch]

I already knew we were the bad guys

Not to mention in normal progression we are supposed to steal from dvgrs

[proven pebble]

bro you're playing as a viking , pilaging and murder are the main thing

matter of fact there aren't as many thing you do as a viking

[rare lichen]

The Dvergr and Goblin live in fear of us 😆

[proven pebble]

oh yeah i forgot about those nvm xD

[rare lichen]

You know what they say, never trust a being whose skin isnt green or blue

[tough mulch]

Goblins? If they had a spawner I would have made a farm to run their entire bloodline dry

[lone rampart]

Yeah but we kill deer for food so that wasn’t too terrible

[tough mulch]

They deserve that much atleast

[tired path]

It's lengthy because exploration is slow as hell. The terrain is impassable, there's a lot of water everywhere, and you can't see 3 meters in front of you.

[prime plume]

brodie aint joking, hes got lvl 100 blood magic

[split adder]

i like the exploration
it makes you actually explore the biome instead of just looking for important features

[tough mulch]

Aiming for lvl 100 block next 🤟

[tired path]

Mistlands made me stop playing my NoMap playthrough

[gray sand]

Elder.

[tough mulch]

Theres a better method, 50 archer skeletons in a hole

[prime plume]

or 6 twigs in a casting couch environment.

[rare lichen]

I dont blame you jaja
Finding the queen on nomap is pretty crazy if you arent looking at a map tool

[paper marsh]

The best biome strikes again (fr tho its tough in no map)

[gray sand]

I find mob farms against the spirit of the game, personally 🤷‍♂️

[tough mulch]

Im on the sandbox side of player so its understandable

I prefer... Unorthodox solutions

[tired path]

I also gotta add, I was doing permadeath as well. Got into my mistlands portal and a random Gjall decided to camp my portal, I was wearing the Root Harnesk and died too quickly to heal up. Hadn't died since Black Forest, had 70 Bow skill. Couldn't go back to playing that save again.

[rare lichen]

Getting that far is really impressive 🙂
Great job !

[rare lichen]

As a server manager I strongly dislike mob farms. One player makes something "for everybody" and then nobody uses it and it makes a bunch of lag.
But from an individual palyer pov, I understand. Its like a fun building puzzle

[tough mulch]

Sounds like insanity the more I hear of it

[tired path]

Between losing all my skills and gear, and not being able to traverse the Mistlands for more than 5 meters because I had no clue where tf I was going, it was too much

[tough mulch]

Luckily for me, I am the server manager

[gray sand]

I take the opposing in the middle of that.
One player makes the farm and then boom, no one else spend any effort playing ever because it's all being done for them.

[tough mulch]

Ill be honestly.... The wood farm and stone farm efficiency is sht

[prime plume]

this is an offense to all camp moms out there

[tough mulch]

Its better to farm them manually

[rare lichen]

In my experience players want to do things themselves most of the time,
They rarely use bases and things that other people made.
Just in general though, of course some players just take everything they see

[abstract warren]

Pretty sure that huge frost cave is clear now. Came out with another 40 pieces of fenris hair

[tough mulch]

Buy when it comes to livestock its better since its always been hands off anyways

[rare lichen]

It is interesting seeing how players find ways to bypass the tame checks using height

[abstract warren]

Got my fenris set all up to tier 3. I reckon I'm ready enough for Plains now.

[tough mulch]

My friendgroup are quite close so we stuck to one base and pretty much made a small viking village

[gray sand]

I prefer MP where each player takes an island and makes their own base.
Always fun to visit and see how other people build.

[rare lichen]

I love seeing when people build together. Its really awesome.
A lot of people cant do that because they are too controlling and cant get along with others

[tough mulch]

One of us didn't like fighting and stayed behind do make food and feast and another liked farming, gathering wood and other res is a community effort

Good times

[rare lichen]

Island builds are really cool 😍
Sorta like a peaceful mode

[gray sand]

Also trading, because certain people will grind out specific materials more than others.

[gray sand]

Think much larger island, not a spec in the middle of the ocean.

Like we pull the overall map up and as people land on islands in exploration they "claim" them so other people cannot harvest resources from them.

[tough mulch]

Ive taken on and spawn proofed a medium sizes island before

It looked like a peaceful place since it was plains and the ocean view is amazing by sunset

[gray sand]

Forces further exploration and unveiling more of the map than just straight-lining as a group through the game.

[tough mulch]

Exploration is fun to those that enjoyed it, some people just like settling down

Ngl its a problem nearly all sandbox games have

At one point ppl make a base and no longer explore as much since they gathered everything they need

Ive played a few survival sandbox games and its a persistent pattern

[gray sand]

Good thing this game isn't a sandbox 😉

[tough mulch]

technically it is? Its survival and you have alot of build freedom

[gray sand]

Literally is not?
Has a direct objective that will lead to a defined ending where the game is over and does not infinitely continue.

[tough mulch]

Minecraft has progressions and ending as well

[rare lichen]

Valheim is absolutely a sandbox from my pov
But its marketed more as a survival crafter

[gray sand]

MC continues infinitely.

[tough mulch]

Kek thing is I found valhiem while looking for top 10 sandbox games

[gray sand]

People tend to incorrectly label things 🤷‍♂️

[tough mulch]

Not all sandbox have infinite world generation

[silk token]

wait was it said when we beat DN boss the save file is done and you dont play it anymore?

[gray sand]

Did I say "the world continues infinitely" ?

[lone rampart]

It’s a sandbox, but Daddy Odin drags you home after you’ve had your fun.

[tough mulch]

Hm? My misunderstanding then, what causes the game to end for you

[gray sand]

When you're done, you go to Valhalla.
Kind of hard to continue walking around Valheim when you're literally in a different realm.

[formal torrent]

Sev I love ya but I'd definitely say it's a sandbox with an ending

[gray sand]

Not being able to play continually?

[silk token]

they said we go to valhalla after DN??

[tough mulch]

Oh im a builder, I have plenty of work after the boss dies

[gray sand]

Yes... and walls are just hallways you cannot walk down.

[formal torrent]

Exactly!

[gray sand]

No.

[formal torrent]

lmaoo

[dusky ledge]

Is boss from ashlands hard?

[gray sand]

Hard is a point of view.

[tough mulch]

He is indeed, gl

[silk token]

i dont watch the videos because spoilers did they say the character leaves to valhalla after DN?

[formal torrent]

I am

[dusky ledge]

I have max gear thats why

I wanna beat him soon

[tough mulch]

Im a casual player so its hard for my point of view

[dusky ledge]

U a good builder?

[tough mulch]

No, im sht

[dusky ledge]

Bruh

[tough mulch]

I still build anyways

[dusky ledge]

Same

[gray sand]

Yes, but if the game says "You are done now, only way to keep playing is load a save from before you killed boss and just ignore killing boss." -- that is not continuous, and not a sandbox.

[tough mulch]

Who said all builders are good? Thats a lie

[dusky ledge]

True true

[proven pebble]

ain't that the reason you explore in the first place?

[dusky ledge]

What biome is the server currently at?

[proven pebble]

meadows probably

[dusky ledge]

Oof

[proven pebble]

haven't been attacked by anything here in the chat

[tough mulch]

I also explore to find a good base location with amazing view

[dusky ledge]

I beat the queen a few months ago

[silk token]

did devs say this is what happens im DN???

[dusky ledge]

Wdym

[gray sand]

Ask Smiffe. I do not feel like searching for the exact quote at this time.

Have to take cat to vet.

[rare lichen]

Putting games in a box as "RPG" or "sandbox" is silly at the end of the day
Games are fluid pieces of art influenced by many games before them
Valheim is whatever IronGate says it is, with elements from whatever other labels players feel are relevant

[silk token]

i dont need a quote just asking cuz i didnt hear

[dusky ledge]

Whats DN

[silk token]

deep north

[dusky ledge]

Ooh ok

Final biome

[proven pebble]

same, aldoe to be fair i consider good location a place that has strategic resources nearby (merchants,iron crypts,magic essence tree thingies,etc..)

[silk token]

well thats pretty cool if it does end the save to beat DN, i always viewed this game as one you replay not live in the same world for years and years

[dusky ledge]

If server is at meadows its prob not fair to join with my maxed acc😂

[tough mulch]

Good thing we can just portal to merchants, although it would be nice to have them in an beautiful place as well

[dusky ledge]

No cheats on?

[proven pebble]

i didn't mean it like that xD, i meant the chat is peaceful

[dusky ledge]

Oooh okay

[gray sand]

Every time people talk about adding NPC and village content, the devs respond with the fact that the game has a defined ending and that we are not staying in Valheim.

That + other things Smiffe has said about the ending is what shapes my words concerning it.
I could very well be dead wrong, but I doubt it.

[proven pebble]

yeee

[paper marsh]

I never understood the point of joining / starting a new world and not starting fresh with a new character

I know its just preference but something about that feels wrong to me

[dusky ledge]

What is avg gear of ppl

Im not hungry for blood no worries

[silk token]

cool. that would be in the spirit of the game imo. this game has the best replayability

[dusky ledge]

Same

[tough mulch]

That would be concerning for players with forever worlds

[silk token]

when i played mp i didnt play any servers where fresh characters/gear were not forced

[dusky ledge]

Is new character forced on this server?

Would be nice

No OP spawn campers😂

[silk token]

which server?

[rare lichen]

Valheim itself is designed around being played that way. It doesnt accomodate persistant worlds or long lasting playthroughs as well as it accomodates starting from scratch with a group. Its sort of like Valheim is developed to be played like a Board Game. You have a few friends, you start up a new world, it runs its course and you all move on.

I love experimenting with persistant worlds in Valheim, but to do that, you have to rework progression and change a lot of things. So in that sense, I understand why Sevrahn says its not a sandbox. If you play it Vanilla. The moment you start adjusting anything, it becomes complete sandbox

[dusky ledge]

Ooh i thought there was like a community server

But its still nice if theres no spawn campers lol

[silk token]

this is THE valheim discord, people advertise servers in the lfg channel

[dusky ledge]

Ooh alr

I will check it out

[tough mulch]

Hope you find a good server

[barren whale]

"valheim is not a sandbox" is certainly a take 🤣

[proven pebble]

a stone golem just appeared mid fight with moder

what do i do?

[tough mulch]

Pray brother

[paper marsh]

Pray

lmao

[tough mulch]

Lol

[proven pebble]

will he attack her?

[paper marsh]

No. No mobs attack bosses (except tames and maybe dvergr?)

[proven pebble]

sum bs

[tough mulch]

He will attack you though

Thats why I shove golems in holes in advance so no more spawn and I can fight in peace

[proven pebble]

why do they exist in the first place? do they drop silver?

[tough mulch]

Nah they have sht drops

[paper marsh]

They drop crystal which isn't used for a ton, and they can drop a trophy which makes an okay trinket

[proven pebble]

sooo just a tough enemy not worth fighting?

[tough mulch]

Yep

Crystal can be used to make glass windows though

Not my favorite build piece, feels out of place compared to everything else

(and you can farm it better in dungeons)

[proven pebble]

omg the local small wyverns have ganged up on the stone golem and are aggroing him, i can focus on moder now

this is some movie tier shi

[tough mulch]

Looks like odin answered your prayer

[proven pebble]

now i kinda feel bad for stealing their eggs

[tough mulch]

Ah dont worry, they have this knack of being annoying the longer you explore mountains

[proven pebble]

i always thought bc of his look that he'd drop silver when killed and it made sense to me, rewards those willing and able to bring them down to get silver without mining and all that stuff

[abstract warren]

Seems like root harnesk is kind of a must in plains if I don't wanna get stung to death in a minute

[proven pebble]

yes

[barren whale]

swamp straight to plains pipeline

[gray sand]

Concerning how? It's been said for many, many years now that the game has a defined "it's over, you're done" point.
So if people chose to ignore that warning, they don't get to be upset about it 🤷‍♂️

[tough mulch]

It will protect you in mistlands as well

[gray sand]

One-tap them before they sting you?

[barren whale]

i don't think you're interpreting the dev's words correctly lol

[abstract warren]

I did

But almost died

[tough mulch]

People have spent months making giant builds so to lose that would be very hard on them

[barren whale]

do you think the game is gonna lock your world when you beat the final boss

[proven pebble]

you can get good at parrying them however they seem to randomly divebomb you when you are in the middle of something

[abstract warren]

Yeah I mean I did get stung

They're quick mofos

[gray sand]

I honestly don't know, but I would not be surprised, and actually I hope it does 🤷‍♂️

[barren whale]

weird and terrible opinion tbh

[gray sand]

Solution A: Don't kill final boss.
Solution B: Mods.

[tough mulch]

Theres also mosquito repellant potion

[proven pebble]

same honestly, letting go , nothing lasts forever

[gray sand]

Ah yes, why see things another person's way and simply disagree when you can insult them.

[abstract warren]

Yeah but I wanna get their needles

[tough mulch]

Lol

[barren whale]

i'm not insulting you
i'm insulting your opinion 🤣 it's a pretty bad one

[gray sand]

Sure... 👍

[tough mulch]

difference in playstyles I guess, but I doubt our world will be locked either way

[barren whale]

likely you'll get a little congratulatory message when you beat the last boss

[gray sand]

Only one way to find out 🤷‍♂️

[tough mulch]

One way indeed

[barren whale]

maybe a cutscene or a wall of text
and then back to doing whatever you were doing before

[tough mulch]

Gonna be awhile though

[gray sand]

Yes... entire game about going to Valhalla and the ending is... staying in Valheim.
Makes sense.

[tough mulch]

Really excited for those new roofs

[abstract warren]

Which forsaken power should I use in plains? I'm using eikthyr rn

[tough mulch]

Bonemass

[gray sand]

Eikthyr and Moder are the top 2 imo.

[tough mulch]

My top one is forever elder

Too many Resources to mine, too little time

[paper marsh]

I use Eikthyr 90%+ of the time

Though I do think Fader's power is really good, just haven't had anything to reallyyyy do after killing him

[proven pebble]

i don't think its bad in a weird way i think it might be better

just letting you join back as a kind of spectator to admire everything

[silk token]

l“Well done! you’ve vanquished my enemies and earned your place in valhalla with the honored dead!”
“uhmmm… but i’m almost done with my 3rd castle that also looks like a dunkin doughnuts”

[barren whale]

i suspect the big reveal is the promised Valhalla was actually Valheim all along
its beautiful, you fought valiantly for Odin
everyone in here is dead
you drank and ate and lived with fellow heroes

[abstract warren]

Wtf a wisp just flew over my head!

In mountain

I am a bit close to mistlands

[tough mulch]

Listen drinking and driving is no good

[mint bluff]

the reveal will be half life 3

[silk token]

i’d accept something like… it’s your choice to go to valhalla, OR, choose to stay behind and make sure the threats dont grow again. that all feels lame to what other endings could be though

[gray sand]

Killing Elder with Flint so I can use his power for Bronze = 🧑‍🍳 💋

[barren whale]

realistically i don't expect valhalla to be more than a cutscene

[gray sand]

Yes. After which game is over.

Reload save from before boss or start new world.

[tough mulch]

Or Its gonna give a congratulation message, kick you out of the world, but you can just log back in

[gray sand]

Otherwise everything they have said about "defined ending" is just a flat-out lie.

[barren whale]

nah we're gonna log in after DN and there will be an 8th boss stone
how are you gonna hang up that boss trophy if you get trapped in a cutscene loop when you kill the last boss 🤣

[tough mulch]

Might be you hang the head and enter the cutscene and the spawn is like a teleporter to Valhalla

[gray sand]

Indeed.

[abstract warren]

Hares on the mountain lol

Killed a 1star hare

[barren whale]

oooooh that'd be sick

[tough mulch]

That mountain sounds like a great spot to hunt hares

[barren whale]

point is there's zero chance you get cut off from building out the rest of your world lol

[gray sand]

Would it be sick if that's where your world ends and you don't get to continue? 🙃

[silk token]

im still not convinced the final boss isnt a higher god and not something with a big monster head to hang up

[gray sand]

Because that would be a defined ending.

[abstract warren]

Yeah there's plains and mistlands right on the edge

[tough mulch]

Hell nawhh im turning on cheats if that happens

[abstract warren]

I almost got killed by a bunch of fulings with a vile

[gray sand]

Which is valid.

[paper marsh]

Next time bring them to a tar pit

[abstract warren]

I can make an hare rug lol

And I barely even started with plains

[tough mulch]

What about a lil switch, its not the world that dies its your character, and it gets yeeted into oblivion but the world stays and you can log into it with a new character

Makes sense since its the old character that entered valhalla not the new one

[barren whale]

lmao maybe if you were a game developer
fortunately for the rest of us that is not the case

[proven pebble]

i think as a final thing we should fight Odin for a place in valhalla

[gray sand]

And back to insulting...

[tough mulch]

Epic boss fight

[barren whale]

i don't think we can take odin guys....

[barren whale]

im just stating the truth
unless you've developed and published a game?

[proven pebble]

not kill him but have a 1 on 1 with him, you deplete his hp and he calls for valkyries to carry you to valhalla

[gray sand]

Ignoring the part where you actually insulted. 👍

[silk token]

just an honorable duel, nobody needs to forever die

[tough mulch]

You dont die in valhiem lore thou no?

[barren whale]

hmmm
i don't think mythological odin is the type to directly test his strength
he'd pit you against another one of his champions

[silk token]

but also its weird that he sent US to kill these things, if he’s so tough why doesnt he do it himself

[barren whale]

I didn't insult you so I'm not sure why you're claiming I did

[tough mulch]

He is a god, he can't be bothered to do grunt work

[gray sand]

If you don't understand how saying it is "fortunate" that someone doesn't do things is an insult, your school system failed you.

[silk token]

didn’t he slay these foes in and cast them out in the first place?

[tough mulch]

Do you come back for sloppy seconds?

[silk token]

well eikthyr head looks really good on my wall

[tough mulch]

Fair point

[silk token]

i guess odin would have built his bedroom already

[barren whale]

well of course its fortunate for us 🤣
we want to keep playing the game after defeating the last boss and if you were a valheim dev you wouldn't allow that

[gray sand]

That is not at all what I said. But 👍 moving on.

[barren whale]

fortunately you are not a valheim dev so it is quite possible we get to keep playing the game as expected 🤣
simple stuff

[silk token]

idk but if the ending is “yay you beat another big thing this time it was icy, you win” ima be disappointed.

[tough mulch]

They are surely atleast gonna add an epic cutscene right

[gray sand]

Final boss is all the battleaxes people have ignored 😏

[tacit crystal]

-# I'm safe then.

[tough mulch]

Aside from the intro cutscene we never really got anything else after that, not complaining thou since I skip cutscenes

[barren whale]

that is true but those are like mythological threats

[gray sand]

Just don't have an opinion. Then you will cease to be safe.

[tough mulch]

Huh, sounds like something a greek person once said

[barren whale]

true, opinions are not safe here

[silk token]

so im gona stand there like “helloo??? -looo -looooo” nothing in sight

[barren whale]

odin fights nasties on his level
we're just the mobs he summons, like how fader summons charred

[tough mulch]

Then you look down, and on the ground there it was... an iron battleaxe

[gray sand]

Suddenly all the SPEARS show up.

[silk token]

im also safe 😂

[tough mulch]

Judging by his pfp, he might be a spear in disguise

[silk token]

now if bows and cheesing things from the sky are there…. i’m SCREWED

[tough mulch]

Im not sure yet though

[gray sand]

You have to fight bronze armor.

[silk token]

ima be like ok final fight-ow what was that? (looks around) ow! what keeps hitting me?

[tough mulch]

Easiest fight of my life

[silk token]

final boss is up above with a bow barely in render distance with a blood shield they afk farmed to 100

[tough mulch]

Judging by the settlements around us, we definitely were not the first

[tough mulch]

I feel mildy attacked

[pure otter]

yeah, too real

[gray sand]

Read lore stones.

[tough mulch]

I did a few, greswarfs are just people like us but with skill issues

Thats how I understood it atleast

[arctic mesa]

playing valheim while baked is a top tier experience

[gray sand]

No.

[silk token]

i thought these nasties WERE on Odin’s level, he put them here, and severed the world tree, but they’re getting stronger again and possibly able to escape or something bad. isnt that the opening cutscene?

[barren whale]

yeah we're probably beating up weakened versions of the Forsaken
maybe they're naked and trying to corpse run back to where Odin got em 🤣

[paper marsh]

Odins foes grow in power

[tough mulch]

And odins response is sending a naked dude to deal with it

[gray sand]

More like skin issues 😉

[abstract warren]

I just found a loot chest in a sunken boat but my wishbone didn't beep

[tough mulch]

Hmmm wishbones should have larger detection for shipwrecks though, thats weird

Do you have it equipped?

[abstract warren]

Yes

[tough mulch]

You sure run into a lot of things iddo

[abstract warren]

Haha yeah

[barren whale]

that is the sign of an effective explorer!

[abstract warren]

Fuling shaman killed me 😭

[dusky ledge]

Nooooo

Guys how do i survive a gjall😭

When theres an elite seeker on me

[barren whale]

what if the deep north boss is like what Yag is to fulings 😨
but with dvergr
and it summons all kinds of dvergr as minions including the healers 😨

[dusky ledge]

Then the fight will prob go on for centuries

[barren whale]

just run 😭
eventually one of them will lose aggro and you can 1v1

[dusky ledge]

Thx vro

I always bring poison and fire pots bc otherwise ur litterally cooked by gjalls

And the thicks are annoying😭

[abstract warren]

Guys should I just make a full silver armour set? Feeling kinda squishy now in the plains

[terse wagon]

Use the environment around you, if you see Ribs/Ancient armor use that for LOS (Line of Sight).

Their weakness is their belly if you have piercing weapons like Arbalest/Bow.. or if you are skilled enough to use a Spear.

I like kite them to ther biomes for LOS if I'm near a other biome like Black Forest, those trees can be a life safer even a Burial Chamber if you LOS/Lite around it.

If you are a Magic User you are gonna have a better time because the Fire Staff has a pushback

[tacit crystal]

Up to you.

[dusky ledge]

Thanks!

[abstract warren]

I've gotten quite used to light armour

But maybe time to try different ways

[tough mulch]

your in the plains, get the padded armor set it has higher armor

[abstract warren]

Oh it's made with iron

How come not black metal

[gray sand]

Because.

[tough mulch]

no clue

[gray sand]

You never stop needing iron. 😄

[abstract warren]

Apparently so lol

[gray sand]

Build material is the main reason 😄

[tough mulch]

if you use one handed weapon black metal shield is nice

[gray sand]

Yes.

[light moat]

Back when padded armor was end-game armor

[tough mulch]

deja vu

[gray sand]

Before the great casualization 🙁

[light moat]

I had a moment and posted in the wrong channel because I’m a goob

[tough mulch]

kek, I skipped plains and ran straight into mistlands

so no padded armor for me

[abstract warren]

Not your first playthrough I assume..?

[tough mulch]

nope that was my first playthrough

I dont follow progression rules

if I was to say how my playthrough went, it goes like this
meadow > dark forest > mountain > swamp > ashlands > mistlands > plains

this my progress on which gear I got first not the progress on where I landed and explored

[abstract warren]

Oh I see

Mistlands are quite a challenge though isn't it

[tough mulch]

mistlands, it was chill aside from the occasional gjall

ashlands however

[abstract warren]

Hmm

So do you usually go for heavy or light armour?

Or do you mix?

[tough mulch]

I go for mixed I really cant throw away the fenris leggings

everything else can be replaced

[gray sand]

Heavy all the way for me.

[abstract warren]

How tough are lox?

There's a whole bunch of them in this fuling village

I'm scared to attack them lol

[tough mulch]

with your current gear

[silk token]

meh, about as tough as the first troll you fight in leather

[tough mulch]

tough as nuts

[gray sand]

Individually, not tough.
Bunched up, can be a bit.

[proven pebble]

Moder is dead

[abstract warren]

Mmk

[tough mulch]

that took a while

[proven pebble]

i had to do like 5 chores mid fight XD

[tough mulch]

maybe the real fight was the chores you did along the way

[proven pebble]

but yeah, all im saying is that IMO out of all the bosses i feel like moder is the most meh

[proven pebble]

and those wyverns who moved the stone golem away from me

[tough mulch]

very kind of them

remember to take them down on the way out, frost arrows are great

[proven pebble]

alternatively i though of maybe killing the zombie bears in plains and getting the power spike with the gloves there

im doing unarmed

[tough mulch]

ohh they spawn rarely though

[dusty frost]

.you still need the metal and artiasan table

[proven pebble]

are they as rare as regular bears?

[tough mulch]

rarer

[dusty frost]

much rarer

[nocturne wolf]

They’re much rarer and only spawn at night. Bears spawn more frequently than trolls.

[dusty frost]

took me like 4h to finally get a trophy for the armor set

[proven pebble]

i was about to say id see at least one bear whenever i enter the BF

[dusty frost]

they also despawn at day

however
I gotta say
the armor set and the maxxed claws
and maxxing unarmed by afking at twig for 3 hours

I feel like a god

build twig backwards

[tough mulch]

just 3 hours? thats some exp gain

[pure otter]

dude I was once exploring the coast of a forest during bronze age, and it was night time. And I see a bear facing away from me right on the edge

[dusty frost]

hold leftclick
alt tab

[pure otter]

but I got closer and it was weird, and then the name came up "Vile" and I was like... what is this?

[dusty frost]

id occassioanlly come back to reset rested

[pure otter]

And then a Fuling came barreling at me, and a 1 star troll started chasing me

and I got the fuck out of there. Turns out there's a tiny spit of Plains on that forest coast

luckily the vile and troll aggroed each other

[dusty frost]

not lucky for the troll

[tough mulch]

it takes 6 hrs for blood magic to hit lvl 100 and thats with 4 skeletons always giving 1.25 x 4 exp every second and a rested buff always active

thats why I say, thats some fast leveling

[nocturne wolf]

This is why the game isn’t balanced around max skills

[pure otter]

I'm just glad that Fuling came at me, because I really thought it was just a variation on a bear that comes out at night, like a forest tier creature. I would've gotten annihilated

[dusty frost]

they do not attack once a second

[pure otter]

but seeing the fuling made me realize there were biome shenanigans afoot

[tough mulch]

oh, I dunno I just based it on seconds since it seems the easiest

[dusty frost]

Also, to be fair, I was already level 40 from normal gameplay

[untold horizon]

guys i just got a bronze mace what weapon should i get next?

[nocturne wolf]

Ranged every 4 seconds melee every 3 seconds

[tough mulch]

iron mace

[dusty frost]

trollstav

[untold horizon]

alr

[proven pebble]

so i got a question that

[untold horizon]

also whats the best way to kill a troll

[nocturne wolf]

Consider making an atgeir, blunt damage isn’t great for trolls

[dusty frost]

fire arrows and kiting

or, if youre good, dodging its attacks

so, new player, fire arrows and kiting

[untold horizon]

alright but why did i once like do half of the health of a troll from one arrow and never did that again

[tough mulch]

feeling brave? sneak attack with an upgraded bronze knife also works

[dusty frost]

sneak attack

[untold horizon]

oooo

[tough mulch]

atgier is the easiest with stunlock though

[untold horizon]

also do dif characters have dif loot or dif servers

[tough mulch]

sorry you lost me

[nocturne wolf]

Your inventory is saved on the character if that’s what you’re asking

[untold horizon]

ooo

so if i got good loot i can join a new server or a world and still have em

[tough mulch]

yeah

[gray sand]

Welcome to why most people do not allow randoms or unknowns on their servers.

[proven pebble]

Can you guys look in #screenshots if you got time i need your opinion on something?

[tough mulch]

luckily its in the server recruitment whether they allow old characters or start new ones, and if they didnt include that, thats on them

[untold horizon]

dawg how far are yall on the game

[pure otter]

speaking of non sequiters, what's the deal with beds? They seem like a weird afterthought, where you get a dragonbed then you get a smaller, worse Ashwood bed and that's it? Seems like there should be a variation of beds per biome at least. I can understand then not wanting "comfort inflation" but at least the later ones should all give 2?

[untold horizon]

i started 2 days ago

[gray sand]

Given it has been out for years, many people here have beaten it multiple times.

[untold horizon]

are devcommands allowed?

[gray sand]

Why would they not be?

[nocturne wolf]

allowed for what

[tough mulch]

different look I guess, the raven bed is still the best looking in my eyes

[gray sand]

Single-player game.
Cheat all you want, no one cares.

[abstract warren]

Those growths are f**d

[proven pebble]

@tough mulch i was thinking of incorporating it into my build and also eternal fire

[dusty frost]

@proven pebble build in meadows or youre gonna deal with so many enemies wandering in
unless you spawnproof the area
and in all honesty
if you want a real nice base
find yourself an island or peninsula

[untold horizon]

like is it possible to use them in other servers and what happens if you do (wont do that)

[gray sand]

No, you cannot use them in servers without mods.

[tough mulch]

eternal fire huh, its not that good since you need to think of the comfort level as well, a heart gives higher comfort lvl

and.. they usually last 11 hrs or something

[proven pebble]

i did find one small island that looks pretty nifty

[proven pebble]

yee, but i also thought of going under it

[tough mulch]

island build is also good, if there is alot of ocean around it if you spawn proof it raids dont spawn

[tough mulch]

now where talking, im also an underground base lover

[untold horizon]

how long does it take for a average valheim player to beat the game

[dusty frost]

aesthetics and cool stuff is neat, Until you have to constantly upkeep from enemy spawns
or spend 2 real life hours terraforming to make farm

[dusty frost]

80 hours to 100

[untold horizon]

o

ive already played 8 hours

[tough mulch]

is the size good enough though? honestly its kinda small and it doesnt have that natural look as building under the rocks in BF

[untold horizon]

also why is my elder location so far away next to the edge of the map

[tough mulch]

250hrs for me because we took it slow

[dusty frost]

that just happens

[tough mulch]

rng, sometimes its close sometimes its not

[untold horizon]

hm

[tough mulch]

mine also spawned near the edge and we had to run through mistlands and plains to get to it

needless to say.. there was some chaos

[pure otter]

I didn't get that unlucky, but Moder is pretty fucked for me, past the mistlands

[untold horizon]

what are the current biomes in order where should you go?

[pure otter]

after each boss it's kind of obvious wehre to go

[tough mulch]

meadow, black forest, swamp, mountain, plains, mistlands, ashlands

[pure otter]

based on what they unlock

[untold horizon]

i gotta go to the swamp 😭

[pure otter]

rip

[tough mulch]

queen + sneak
I see I was supposed to sneak around in ashlands got it

[untold horizon]

what armor should i get and basically how to survive there

[abstract warren]

How to deal with stank growths?

[pure otter]

most of these questions you can answer by just playing?

[tough mulch]

the swamp? kill the abomination since its armor set is the best suited for that biome

[dusty frost]

poison resist mead

[abstract warren]

Ah

[untold horizon]

abomation?

[tough mulch]

shoot them out of render distance

[tough mulch]

the walking trees, aka trolls of the swamp

[untold horizon]

ooooooh

i thought abomation was the boss of the swamp

[gray sand]

Meadows to BF is pretty apparent I would say.
Elder dropping the SWAMP Key should be self-explanatory for biome 3.
Swamp materials give you access to Frost Resist potion, which is your clue for 4.
Plains doesn't have a direct arrow, but you've most likely encountered it by that point.
Yag drops mist repellent, so that points you onwards.

[tough mulch]

eh, just stand on a crept and show it down with fire arrows if you wanna cheese it

[tough mulch]

the boss is worse if you dont go around with poison resistance mead

[pure otter]

bonemass was a fucking terror for me, what a douche

[gray sand]

🤔

[untold horizon]

also i heard you could go to swamp without the key? or the places

[dusty frost]

you can cheat, yes

[gray sand]

If you glitch, yes.

[pure otter]

you can go to the swamp sure, but you can't get iron

[gray sand]

You can still get iron.

[pure otter]

oh sure, glitch without a key, but meh

[untold horizon]

should i glitch

[gray sand]

No.

[pure otter]

just beat the elder?

[untold horizon]

as i said the elder is on the other side of the map

[pure otter]

without glitching you mean?

[gray sand]

Yes.

[untold horizon]

also yall beat the leviathan yet or is it impossible

[tough mulch]

how to skip elder = finewoodchair
skip bonemass = stagbreaker
skip yaglut = do you even need to see in the mistlands?
skip queen= shes optional unless you want shield generator
ashlands

the im too lazy to progress like the devs want me guide

[gray sand]

You cannot kill floating rocks.

[pure otter]

oh yeah if you see one, go for it right away imo, the knife you get from it is OP

[untold horizon]

oh

[tough mulch]

I get it for the harpoon

[untold horizon]

wait i heard there were 2 monsters on the sea???

[green reef]

kinda annoying, the flammetal armor is barely better and breaks faster

[tough mulch]

oh those worms, dont worry about them

[silk token]

the bird literally tells you where to go next and what things are listen to the bird he is smarter than discord

[gray sand]

I would change so much of this if I was able 😂

[proven pebble]

wait, zombie bears only appear during the night?

[pure otter]

yeah

[dusty frost]

" listen to the bird he is smarter than discord"

[tough mulch]

yep

[untold horizon]

also what do bears drop

[tough mulch]

bear trophy, bear meat, bear hide

[pure otter]

I mean... a boat ride holding portal materials is in your future, I guess?

[tough mulch]

and then a lox decides it wants to be a fish and chase your boat while the wind is against you

[untold horizon]

yh im doing that

[dusty frost]

bear stuff

[untold horizon]

its just gonna take like 2 days

[dusty frost]

man play the game

stop asking questions lmao

[tough mulch]

your doing what?

[untold horizon]

idk im just curious

[pure otter]

look honestly just play, but if you're really the type of person who wants all the info going in, then read the wiki

[silk token]

the best parts of this game are discovering things for yourself the first time

[tough mulch]

theres also youtube guides on progression

dont listen to the ones that tell you to get bronze gear thou

that one is a scam

[untold horizon]

bu i alr got the bronze mace

[silk token]

i think they meant bronze armor

[tough mulch]

I meant the armor set

[untold horizon]

oooh

[barren whale]

bronze mace is fantastic yes

[untold horizon]

so the abomation boss gives the good armor

[tough mulch]

one of the best chest piece

[untold horizon]

is the abomation like how do i kill it cause it seems strong

[tough mulch]

its headpiece is also good in the swamo

[proven pebble]

also its on the shore

[tough mulch]

same way with trolls, bow and fire arrow for safe results but takes time

well its slow so you can dodge its attacks too while going upfront

[tough mulch]

oh... there will be water underground so it wont be possible to build there

[untold horizon]

best axe?

[tough mulch]

endgame berserkir, swamp has iron battleaxe, mountain has spirit battleaxe

and mistland has skull crusher battleaxe

[untold horizon]

whats the ultimately best weapon to kill the Abomation

[tough mulch]

the crepts

[oblique zinc]

Skill

[silk token]

it resists blunt so your mace is gonna be tough to kill it, axe or sword is fine, bronze buckler can parry its attacks if kiting for minutes with a bow doesnt sound good

[untold horizon]

no like for any level

[barren whale]

any slash weapon
bronze buckler
you can just lead it over a fire gyser and it will burn to death

[untold horizon]

end game and stuff

[barren whale]

berserkir axe yup

[formal torrent]

What is the third part of the berserk set?

There's loincloth of the bear, patterns of the bear

[barren whale]

headdress

[formal torrent]

Oh how do you unlock that

[untold horizon]

whats the best power in the game

[barren whale]

trophy

[formal torrent]

Bear trophy?

[tough mulch]

you need throphy

[silk token]

wha.. why are you considering endgame weapons to kill abomination??

[formal torrent]

I see I see

[untold horizon]

i wn try

devcoms

[silk token]

what??

[untold horizon]

dev commands

on another server

[formal torrent]

Also how do I enable dev commands and spawn surtling cores? I don't want a ton but I looted all the caves near me and only got 8

[silk token]

you mean you want to just spawn in an endgame weapons to kill the abomonation?

[tough mulch]

bro just go killall lmao

[untold horizon]

NO NO NO not in my own world like a test world and char

[foggy glacier]

again, why?

[tough mulch]

still, thats like nuking a mosquita as a test run

[frozen fable]

8 is a great haul of Surtling cores from one Burial Chamber

[silk token]

lol yeah im back to why again

[formal torrent]

No, it was from 4 of them

[untold horizon]

idk dude my friend isnt here and im bored af

[formal torrent]

There aren't any others nearby

[frozen fable]

Ah bad RNG

[silk token]

cuz you’re typing on discord instead. of playing video games

[untold horizon]

but so wats the best power

[formal torrent]

Yeah so how do I spawn surtling cores

[tough mulch]

from the surtling spawners?

[formal torrent]

Oml I mean how do I use commands to spawn them

[tough mulch]

hmmm spawn surtling core 1 ?

[untold horizon]

type spawn surtlingcore

[formal torrent]

I enabled the console in settings but don't know how to bring it up or what command to use

[dusty frost]

mistlands terrain makes me want to shoot myself

[formal torrent]

In the chat?

[untold horizon]

no

[tough mulch]

dont, you cant see what if you shoot a devgr by accident

[dusty frost]

A biome with bad terrain - cool
a biome with mist - cool
A biome with both - literal dogwater

[oblique zinc]

I always send random fireballs in mistalnds in hopes I hit something

[tough mulch]

you dont have devcommands on rn if your asking that

[pure otter]

F5

[untold horizon]

you gotta go onto steam then do -c something code code and then go back into valheim make another world press F5 then write devcommands 2 times and then debugmode and then u can type spawn (Item) in the F5 mode

[formal torrent]

Thank you

[tough mulch]

-console

[untold horizon]

yes

[tough mulch]

people keep telling me mistlands is beautiful

im like
"how do you know that, I cant see sht"

[untold horizon]

best food?

[tough mulch]

depends on occasion and playstyle

[formal torrent]

I always do 1 stamina food, 1 balanced food, 1 health food

The specific foods depend on where I'm going or if I'm fighting something tough

[untold horizon]

i want to spawn a MistWalker with a high level how do i add levels to it?

[foggy glacier]

Same. I've been running health/stam/feast this playthrough.

[formal torrent]

Get the mod for it

[untold horizon]

Mod?

why

[formal torrent]

CreatureLevelAndLootControl lets you spawn mobs with stars and such

[tough mulch]

well... just go debugmode, press b and it will remove buildcost, then open your craft menu and upgrade it for free

[foggy glacier]

https://valheim.fandom.com/wiki/Developer_console

[late tinsel]

Hi

[tough mulch]

sup

[formal torrent]

Hello 😄

[late tinsel]

Does anyone hate the swamp

[formal torrent]

No I love the swamp

[tough mulch]

I dont hate swamp, but I hate having to keep mining iron

like give the other ores a chance bro

[late tinsel]

I hate the oozes