valheim-chat

[supple bear]

I dont really have stamina issues

most enemies attacks can be avoided without using stamina

[green reef]

Poison resist has value on queen. I am about go to Ashlands making stacks of Ratatosk, Leapfoot, Major Healing, and Fire Resist.

[gray sand]

I don't have issues either, I abuse the power of Tasty to slam harder than I normally would.

[supple bear]

wait the queen can poison you?

[gray sand]

*all

Given then Parry is FREEEEEE now for some reason....

[supple bear]

i was talking about moving left or right but yeah

parry works too now

[chrome badge]

Absolutely

[supple bear]

Ive killed her so many times and never been poisoned

Is it the spit?

[green reef]

she pukes poison with the mini bugs

[supple bear]

or a melee attack

[rotund parrot]

You can also prevent some poison damage in the ashlands

[gray sand]

Wind-up Bite does too iirc.

[supple bear]

i learn things all the time still

Ive never been poisoned in that fight

You know i just realized

For anyone who's played Conan Exiles the queen is kind of a budget Blood Moon Beast

[gray sand]

I miss Conan Exiles 🙁

[supple bear]

Same, thanks funcom

Although you can still play any version of that game you want, in single player

I have Age of Sorcery Ch 3. on my comp atm

[split adder]

unfortunately it is now time for me to enter the mistlands

[gray sand]

Now there's a game with spear combos.

[supple bear]

It is kind of crazy how similar those two enemies are now that i think about it though

[rotund parrot]

I just have vague memories of that game, just rushing lategame materials and farming the champion and the black armor guy to get the best gear on all my level 20 brutes

[hard sluice]

you will be fine. use your ears to spot enemies before they attack you.

[split adder]

what is an ear

[supple bear]

Conan Exiles was an amazing game for a long time, especially for building

A few year ago i would have said its the #2 survival game

[split adder]

do wisps come when i sleep

[supple bear]

And before you ask Terraria is #1

[formal torrent]

An organ for recieving sound waves, usually on the side of someone's head

[hard sluice]

its that sensory organ that can detect vibration in the air.

[rotund parrot]

I struggle to find reasons to replay games when the map is always the same

[supple bear]

Yeah conan was more sandboxy for sure

I actually like the consistent map because it allows for map knowledge to play a role

For example, most people know almost nothing about the isle of siptah especially these days. Even google is wrong on everything, the wiki is outdated AF. So actually having siptah knowledge is valuable

[gray sand]

Satisfactory map being hand-crafted instead of generated is part of what makes that game amazing.

[supple bear]

to the 3 people who still play on that map

[tacit crystal]

During night or rain.

And one biome is always rainy.

[supple bear]

The random generation doesnt even matter to me anyway

Every black forest is the same to me

[rotund parrot]

I don't mind for satisfactory since the map is so big and you actually shape the whole map

[hard sluice]

i love that its randomly generated. i never watch what my seed is.

[supple bear]

I used to play that way but i theres nothing left to explore for me anymore

[gray sand]

I use the same Valheim seed every time 😄

[supple bear]

ive seen everything the black forest has to offer, like 20 times now

[green reef]

thhats crazy. wowow

[split adder]

i havent really gone to the eastern portion of my world
now that ive killed yagluth, is it finally time

[hard sluice]

i have the feeling that you will rush throught the DN when its out 😛

[gray sand]

🤔

[supple bear]

I will beat the deep north in less than 24 hours

[hard sluice]

i will make sure i enjoy it for as long as possible

[lone rampart]

mmk have fun

[burnt glen]

I'm gonna take my time and play it thorough

[supple bear]

and before they nerf it

thats the big thing

[gray sand]

The fact this is guaranteed is so sad 🙁

[supple bear]

both mistlands and ashlands were nerfed pretty quickly after release to PTR

[chrome badge]

I will probably sink 200 hours in the DN minimum before any bosses are considered 😅

[gray sand]

*unnecessarily

[supple bear]

I mean the formula for deep north is going to be the same as every other biome

and the boss will be beatable with ashlands tier gear

[gray sand]

I think you need Mountain to beat Fader due to his regen, but idk if anyone has tried with Iron stuff yet.

[supple bear]

Plus deep north is probably going to be small and compact like ashlands is?

i mean you can tell by looking at the map

[gray sand]

Going to be same cutoff size afaik.

[rotund parrot]

Im down to go try to kill fader with level 100 knifes and an abyssal razor, I have no doubt I can easily do it

[supple bear]

which likely means pois are going to be compact together again

speedrunner friendly

[burnt glen]

That's a lot of hours, good for you. I'm just gonna avoid the internets and just figure everything out, however long that takes.

[supple bear]

progression is going to be tied to some kind of "dungeon"

so the closer they are together the better

[hard sluice]

i mean... they cant reinvent the game on the last level

[supple bear]

Nope

[hard sluice]

if its going to be a guitar hero mini game, i'll be confused

[split adder]

can we make a food decooker that makes meat raw and gives you wood as you use it

[supple bear]

Thats why im confident ill beat it in less than 24 hours lol

[burnt glen]

tf 🤣

[gray sand]

You have 24 in-game hours 😛

[supple bear]

The valheim formula endures

[split adder]

that way with cooking levels we get infinite food

[supple bear]

It will likely take less than that honestly

[hard sluice]

i actually think most people being very impatient about the 1.0*, will probably finish it very quickly.
they will spend more time waiting than playing

[supple bear]

It all depends on how rare the boss summon item is

[burnt glen]

"decooker" is too funny for no reason

[rare lichen]

Id love to know if theyre going to go for all deep north, or deep north + mountain combo (current)

[supple bear]

since the boss is all i really care about i want to fight him as fast as possible and learn all his moves and such

i can explore the biome later

[burnt glen]

It won't be as fun

[green reef]

a deep snow mechanic that you need snow shoes for?

[supple bear]

permanent blizzard with polar bear spam

[lone rampart]

I did make a suggestion for a "compost bin" like the obliterator, but used for food

[split adder]

should i be scared of the mistlands

[lone rampart]

not quite "uncooking" but 😹

[chrome badge]

A bit of fear is healthy, yes.

[rare lichen]

Do you like bugs?
(completely unrelated question)

[hard sluice]

i think mistland is scarier than it is difficult

[supple bear]

Unless you are near a POI no

[dark coyote]

dopamine junkies

[supple bear]

dungeon entrances usually have 2-3 bugs outside them

[split adder]

as in the animal or the video game type

[supple bear]

abandoned towers around 5

[rare lichen]

All of them !

[split adder]

lets say no

[rare lichen]

Hmmmm
How do you feel about the color purple?

[rotund parrot]

Mistlands is my favorite biome, the progression is complex, rewarding and you need to work for it.

[split adder]

i feel no distinct emotion to purple

[supple bear]

Im not a fan of sucking off trees

Constantly having to move my suckers

[chrome badge]

Mistlands is such a nice change of pace and challenge.

[green reef]

I wish they made it so you could get sappers another way. and more vesigrs pointing to the queen

[chrome badge]

You don't, they will regen.

[supple bear]

sometimes you can find a nice clearing where theres like 4-5 roots though

[gray sand]

PHRASING

[supple bear]

Yes they regen very slow after drained

[dark coyote]

I like it but the mist itseslf is ridiculous, just giant spinning sprites, make it a real fog with occasional magic sparkles or w/e

[supple bear]

better to move them to a different root while it recharges

[rare lichen]

Maybe thats for the best 🙂
Its certainly a good thing you dont dislike purple

[copper karma]

Or don't stress it.

[supple bear]

unless you want to wait 100 days to make eitr weave ol

id rather make it today

[copper karma]

Have more than one extractor

[supple bear]

I have like 6

[burnt glen]

Love the mistlands, would erase my mind to play it over again.

[supple bear]

it takes a lot

you also need extra for ashlands

[gray sand]

I usually just fine 3 roots and then alternate which one I have the taps on.

[hard sluice]

I'm so happy i played all the game without looking at spoilers before. It was such a trip.

[burnt glen]

Assassinate more Dvergrs then, easy

[supple bear]

Yeah if you can find a nice spot with several different roots you hit the jackpot

the max ive found is 5

[chrome badge]

It's similar to a beehive, want a better rate? Build more beehives.

[supple bear]

I dont use any eitr food that uses sap

so once im done with it im done thank god

[split adder]

oh come on why did i have to get wolf evented

[hard sluice]

last game, i was unlucky with roots, so i just placed a bunch of portals. its only marginally slower than having them all at the same place.

[green reef]

more or less. except the roots have some kind of recharge value that if you exceed then therre is a delay before getting more sap

[supple bear]

A root can hold 50 sap but regens like 2 a day or something

[steel mica]

9

[supple bear]

You found 9 roots together

[steel mica]

All in walking distance

Yes

[supple bear]

Pretty wild

[steel mica]

I just need to make a base around it

[supple bear]

the ashlands food is so cheap and easy

once i leave mistlands i usually have no need to go back

[hard sluice]

you do need to go harvest those ashland shrooms. thats not always a walk in the park

[gray sand]

Cooked Bonemaw Meat is so good for a 1-ingredient food.

[burnt glen]

Just imagine it's summer

[supple bear]

the ashlands POIs have one time enemy spawns

[maiden light]

Any predeictions about when 1.0 will come out? I've been assuming it would be early 2026 but I haven't been paying much attention beyond Steam news.

[supple bear]

its part of what makes ashlands feel so overwhelming

once you deal with all those one time spawns and kill the spawners in render range ashlands is pretty chill

especially on the coast

[hard sluice]

i think there is still a significant amount of work to be done, and the devs took a time off for holidays. its not going to come out soon.

[green reef]

should release with Playstation release

[dark coyote]

not for me, they keep coming and respawning no matter wwhat I do, constant fighting there

[green reef]

you can put down campfires to reduce spawning

[dark coyote]

doesnt work for me

[supple bear]

camp fires dont supress spawners

[burnt glen]

over one and a half years since ashlands release

[chrome badge]

It works for everyone. 😵‍💫

[maiden light]

campfires and crafting tables

[supple bear]

Youll still have enemy spawns but it wont be as bad. Most of the overwhelming when you first hit ashlands is spawners and one time spawns attached to POIs

[dark coyote]

haven't used workbenches but ive tested campfires in both the swamp and ashlands, they do not prevent spawns on my world

[supple bear]

those big buildings with the grapes havea chance to have one time twitchers in them

the destroyed buildings have a chance to have morgens

[hard sluice]

maybe its not working because there are gaps in the campfire coverage
its easier to visualize the zones with a workbench

[chrome badge]

They do, they prevent them in every world for every one.

[supple bear]

when a morgen naturally spawns its always above ground

So any underground morgen is tied to a POI

and is a one time spawn

[dark coyote]

they do not, %100 certain

[supple bear]

The radius is smaller than you think

you've likely not actually covered the area properly

[chrome badge]

You're incorrect, sorry to say. Try with workbenches so you can be more sure about the spawn block radius. This is why there's tooltips on loading screens saying Campfires/Workbenches will block enemy spawns.

[supple bear]

work benchs gives you a better visual of the range

[dark coyote]

I've seen skeletons spawn ON my campfires in the swamp

[chrome badge]

They can still walk over to objects, they won't spawn within their area.

[maiden light]

I haven't played since mistlands, but I remember being able to bury crafting tables around my base and covering them with wood floors which did stop most spawns.

[supple bear]

Ive never seen anything like that happen

Campfires dont supress spawners

[dark coyote]

i put campfires all over my ashlands landing area, they keep respawning

[split adder]

i think ive found the worlds smallest mountain

[supple bear]

again its likely your coverage isnt actually good enough and there are gaps

the radius is smalelr than you think

[dark coyote]

whats tthe range of a spawner?

[chrome badge]

You must have radius gaps around your campfires, try using workbenches to get a visual aid.

[supple bear]

it takes thousand of stones to make a beach safe

[supple bear]

not very far so the campfire would have to be next to the spawner lol

[steel mica]

Why not the wood standing torch?

[split adder]

how does anyone find anything in the mistlands

[supple bear]

go up

above the mist

[dark coyote]

well I destroyed them, and they havent reappeared, but there will always be archers or warriors wwandering around, I think the hellfire breaks tthem too

[green reef]

don't talk to the ravens so they show up poi and get your attention 😄

[hard sluice]

tell me about it, i spent dozens of hours in that no map/no portal run in the mistlands.... its a real chalenge

[chrome badge]

Make a Wisplight accessory, and gather wisps to place Wisp Torches in commonly pathed areas.

[supple bear]

Unless you've spawn blocked your entire render range they will still spawn and patrol

they just spawning really far away

[dark coyote]

that must be it then

[split adder]

do seekers do a lot of damage

[supple bear]

Yeah if you want to elimate spawns around your base completely

the best thing to do is go make an island and build on it

[supple bear]

Not if you wear the root harnesk

[terse wagon]

One way to traverse the mistlands, is to create a safe portal leading to your base, run around the mistlands naked, rested with 2x health + 1 stamina food like onion soup.

Go as far as you can before dying etc, once you die, check the other direction naked

[supple bear]

its the knockback you gotta worry about

they toss you around like a rag doll

[hard sluice]

my 1st death in my current run was being tossed down a mountain by a seeker :_(
My body fell deep in mistlands, it was a nightmare to recover.

[green reef]

just looking for poi?

[supple bear]

you parry them and almost dont have enough time to hit them before they get unstunned rofl

sends you flying

[terse wagon]

Yes, looking for all POI's
I haven't killed Yagluth and I'm already in Eitr gear etc

[dark coyote]

there is a video of guy that gets gut punched by a golem, and I guess he tapped jump right before, and it launches him to the ashlands

[rotund parrot]

It was pretty easy to kill fader with a forest tier weapon (the razor) I was doing 130 or so damage per 3 hits, with the nimble anklets it was going down fairly quickly, first razor durability took out nearly 45% of it's health, I needed nearly 3 razor and 22 minutes to take him down

[gray sand]

Isn't Razor technically Swamp tier?

[terse wagon]

The only bosses I really kill are Moder (for artisan table, black metal axe/pick) and the Queen (etir buff)

[rotund parrot]

I'll let you be the judge of that

[steel mica]

Yall are talking about beating the current final boss with bf gear 💀

[hard sluice]

i consider it as the iron knive that isnt there

[supple bear]

I just remembered this game has a harpoon

[steel mica]

While im over here struggling to find a 2** asksvin

[supple bear]

I havent hunted a serpent in probably 4 years

That used to be like the end game thing to do lol

[hard sluice]

ngl, the harpoon kind of annoys me. it breaks the mobs pathfinding, at least it looks like it does

[supple bear]

Harpoon is still super useful to get animals into holes for taming

[green reef]

serpent hunting has been more common for me lately. serpent stew is good food up to Mistlands

[shy marlin]

try flint spear vs fader 😎

[supple bear]

But i dont tame animals so why make it

[terse wagon]

Yeah, the ocean is lack kuster other than traveling, it's empty and no real mechanics

[dark coyote]

yeah I li ke that, I force golems into holes that way

[steel mica]

No ty mr.scales I would rather fight fader with unupgraded ashland gear

[shy marlin]

lame

[supple bear]

when the game first came out they considered the ocean to be an actual biome. As the years went by they kind of just abandoned it

[hard sluice]

but why not just deal with them, the way the game is designed? thats how i see it
The game isn't that difficult

[terse wagon]

The ocean biome needs some super love

[supple bear]

The ocean is basically just a road now

[steel mica]

Also welcome back

[supple bear]

and i dont even think its changed at all since launch

i mean other than ashlands water

if you want to count that

[dark coyote]

I design the game 🧠

[hard sluice]

its cool. but i think its a lot cooler to actually fight those golems than use cheap tricks to avoid them
(But we had that convo earlier, no need to come back to it)

[terse wagon]

Ocean is one if my favorite sound tracks though along mistlands

[supple bear]

I keep trying to get back into enshrouded since they've done a lot to that game since the last time i played but i just cant do it

The combat is so bad

[hard sluice]

what part of this game do you enjoy?

[supple bear]

seeing how fast i can beat it

[dark coyote]

yeah revelwood looks sooooo good now, and I replaced all the blue blocks in my base witht real water

[supple bear]

Is the gameplay loop still the same? Climb the tower and do all the question marks on the map

for each zone

[supple bear]

What part do you enjoy?

[terse wagon]

I skip Eikythtr, Elder, Bone mass and gi straight for Moder, skip Yagluth because I like to traverse Mistlands without the wisp for a challenge. I use my iron gathering for mistlands Viaducts without touching the swamps

[dark coyote]

the "classes" and skilltree are stupid still, made me so mad that I made my own tree

[hard sluice]

i like exploration, combat, the whole 'management' of ressource and inventory space. i like the general feeling of the world, and the lore that supports it. those are a few exemples

[supple bear]

Do you still get the best loot by saving and reloading to respawn specific chests lol

[steel mica]

Mistlands has grown on mean to the point that I dont use the wisplight just to keep the belt

[dark coyote]

lol no they just fixed that

[hard sluice]

i like the building, but only with no portals. it forces me to build outposts, instead of just placing portals

[supple bear]

All you gotta do is just go up

[green reef]

I like the building system, the graphics, the combat

[supple bear]

why you need a whisplight

[rotund parrot]

We came to an agreement on something! How fast did you beat valheim? I wouldn't speedrun but I did many playthrough where I try to just efficiently go through every step of the game and finish it rather quickly, I just want to compare

[supple bear]

just climbtothelight

[supple bear]

Do you want to know how fast I beat it the first time i ever played it or like how fast i beat it now ?

[hard sluice]

you can do mistland just fine zooming all the way in, but its a lot more fun when you can actually see around you, i think.

[dark coyote]

||spawn dvergr_demister_large||

[rotund parrot]

now

[supple bear]

My last run was 104 days

[rotund parrot]

Very nice

[supple bear]

i wasnt balls to the wall but not super casual either

Thats also with a fixed seed, i knew where everything was

[rotund parrot]

Definitely my first deathless run on normal was done in similar fashion and it took a similar amount of time

I did do it faster after

I wouldn't look up the seed though

[supple bear]

The world record for fixed seed is like 6 hours

so my last run was only like 30 hours off XD

[rotund parrot]

Yeah but we were playing the game the way it's meant to be played, just efficiently, we were not speedrunning

[green reef]

dealthless, amazing.

[supple bear]

Part of the reason its slow though is growing flax

i go from troll to padded armor

and fully upgrade it

[hard sluice]

isnt the iron you need for this armor slow to harvest? for a speedrun

[rotund parrot]

I usually do root to partially padded if I play on normal

[supple bear]

Yeah but im not really speedrunning

i do very fast casual runs with goals

[green reef]

have you done it again since bear and vile came out?

[supple bear]

Yeah my last run was after that update

didnt really notice much difference in the hitboxes

just being honest

i did kill a few bears though, you need their trophy for the BIS trinket for like 90% of the game lol

[dark coyote]

I'm sstill wearing the harnesk in ashlands, they need to nerf resistances across the board imo

[hard sluice]

i suggested 2 days ago, i think, to nerf the pierce resistance by half, like they did bonemass power

[supple bear]

Shh its fine

i dont even use the thing but im not against having a helping hand for other players

[hard sluice]

dont worry, nobody cares about my suggestions lol

[green reef]

I just think the bear armor gets you easily through swamp

[supple bear]

i view the root harnesk like i do summons in elden ring

its your choice to use it

[green reef]

vile claws can take you to ashlands

[supple bear]

so can frostner

[shy marlin]

random seed is 9

[supple bear]

and a lot of other things really

Frostner and the root harnesk stay relevant for basically the entire game

[hard sluice]

if a powerful item is there, it becomes almost a roleplay reason not to use it.
we all know the root harnesk is a bit overpowered

[green reef]

about to hit ashlands, going to take Vile Claws, Frostner, DragrBow, MistWalker

[supple bear]

mistwalker and crossbow all you need

for a hybrid

Im not sure how claws are going to work out against those initial swarm levels lol

[green reef]

thhis is a no portal run, so hhopefuly repairs don't sink me. extra weaposn should get me through building up an FOB

[supple bear]

Remember if you go up high enough enemies stop caring about you

those buildings with grapes in them get pretty tall

[rotund parrot]

9 hours is still very long, I don't think valheim will ever be popular in speedrunning. My fastest completion was on day 74 and it was while having built a decent looking base, found all traders, more than 50 portals on my map, maxed out or near max weapons and armors of most biomes along the way and the best ashlands gear before fader

[green reef]

lol vineberries. sounds like the way germans probably name grapes

[supple bear]

Speedruns over like 3 hours rarely get any dedicated traction

30m to an hour is ideal for viewing

[supple bear]

In V Rising they just call them sacred grapes

[green reef]

good name for grapes used for booze. We've got VRising on our list, hoping to play it with family together all brand new

[supple bear]

Its a very challenging game

I put Adam up there with Orphan of Kos

Shit nearly broke me

Most of the bosses arent too extreme though, Adam and Dracula are just on a whole other level

[rotund parrot]

Infested broodmother in grounded is something that nearly broke my will

[hard sluice]

when i got interested in valheim, many ppl told me about grounded but i dont like the combat system in it

[green reef]

man, Mistlands to me changes pretty drastically when you get Feather Cloak

[silk token]

i think they make it suck so bad so that when you get it it's so amazing

[hard sluice]

the only problem with that cloak is... i get used to it, and when i put on the next* cloak, i forget about fall dmg and jump down to my death

[green reef]

I never give it up. I carry Fire Resist in Ashlands just so I can keep the cloak

[rotund parrot]

I liked grounded, grounded 2 in early access was a disaster when I played it at launch, valheim got me used to polished gameplay without issues from early access, they didn't deliver

[hard sluice]

i'll use it with the mage gear, but the askvin is way better for melee playstyle.

With the mage gear, the feather cloak allows you to jump and glide while casting the protection bubble, so its very useful in combat.

[green reef]

I use it to fly over lava lakes and get to flametal and jump easily into fortresses

[hard sluice]

in my no portal run, i find it gets easier by the end to repair, as you only need 1 black forge, instead of a workbench+ forge+upgrades. it takes less space in that limited ship storage

[green reef]

yeah, I'm searching for a mistland dungeon now to get supplies for a basic setup for repairs

[hard sluice]

i find that its often easier to circle a mistland island for mines than to go in deep, on foot.
but i prefer the foot expedition. its more exciting :3

[green reef]

65klwwCFLa is the seed I ended up with. pretty awesome start for NoMap/NoPortal. Elder more or less guided my direction I guess. found Haldor on first sailing trip. Found Bonemass right next to BogWitch in first Swamp.

[latent gorge]

Hello do you guys play in mods for mistland or default?

[green reef]

this install of several hundred hours, no mods.

[hard sluice]

i'm 100% vanilla
are you talking about world modifiers..?

[formal torrent]

I like mods

[latent gorge]

Nope I’m referring to mods. Which mods you are using Cat

[hard sluice]

i thought that playing vanilla would give me a better evaluation of the game, and make my suggestions more .. meaningful.
but i cant lie that i am disapointed at how they were received 😛

[silk token]

for anyone keeping track for science, i feel like we were talking about this a while ago, i had two chests in the basement of the sealed tower, and each had 1 egg in it

[green reef]

this goal of this strat is to get eggs pre-yag?

One of my favorite mods from olden days was the auto-fuel mod that fueled all the torches, fireplaces, braziers, etc. made building huge bases and communities more fun.

[silk token]

no, just there was some talk of statistics and how many eggs/chests at some point

[hard sluice]

does the ressource drop rate affects the eggs in those chests?

[silk token]

i would imagine

but what do i know, i am but a silly man who doesnt even have a chicken coup or any intentioin in eating eggs because i just meh never got them

just casually went oh yeah i wanted to clear that tower by my house

[chrome badge]

Chickens are good for base wandering atmosphere

Like a village in Zelda 😅

[silk token]

now if they were a feather cape substitute id be down

[steel mica]

Im gonna give primal slayer a try

[hard sluice]

im not much into taming in valheim, but i get a chicken farm each time.

[silk token]

i never tame, i just hunt as i go, its always enough

i still got stacks fo shit ill never use in my chests and i never tamed anything

[hard sluice]

that glazed chicken tho. good stuff.

[silk token]

true true, i did sleep on that one, i had plenty other haelth foods i never missed it somehow

[green reef]

they provide a lot of feathers for LeapFoot

Chickens are probably the most meaningful tame because you can't get the meat otherwise

in a mistland dungeon, sometimes there are upstairs or downstairs with a seeker soldier guarding it, and it destroys the pathway.

[hard sluice]

i never got stuck because of it but it scares me..!

[green reef]

feels like its a problem, this one is up, so won't prevent me from surviving, but might be stuff up there I can't get

[hard sluice]

ngl, i might resort to devcommands if it happens. i only did that once.

[steel mica]

Primal is actually pretty nice

[lone rampart]

I’ve never had a soldier destroy the stairs itself. They smash the railing but not the walkable parts

[distant halo]

Anyone can give me tips.. so i just started ghe game yesterday and currently the progress i have rn is meadows n black forest… problem is i am having a hard time exploring the forest… the skeletons r very sturdy n painful lol.. is there like a treasure chest that gives sword in meadows?

[steel mica]

No better gears are locked behind resource gathering and crafting, blackforest opens up to the first major step in crafting gear

Your best weapon atm are the spear

[silk token]

try the ancient art of walking backwards when they swing, you dont have to block or dodge roll or anything

[green reef]

basically food is the most important thing in the game, after that learning combat, and gearing up.

[green reef]

skeltons are weak to blunt, so a wooden club should be reasonable on them

[silk token]

id suggest 3 foods that give you health too fi you're starting out

they're pretty trivial if you're fed with 3 meats

[distant halo]

I see

Thns for the tips

[steel mica]

I hate twitchers so much

[green reef]

day 361 on this no portal run

[distant halo]

Oh m still on day 7

[green reef]

probably sleep more on no portal runs

if you can't sleep, your shadow must point north->east right?

[supple bear]

imagine dying during a no portal run

especially in the ashlands

[green reef]

that's next

[green reef]

I'd be surprised if there was a biome I didn't die in during this no-portal run

[supple bear]

Pretty hard to die in the meadows

[dark coyote]

well you have to relocate, like a gypsy

[supple bear]

That just normal gameplay for me

Thats how Dvoid intends for you to play the game

[green reef]

to some extent, my second real base was on the edge of swamp, wiith planes a minute away.

[supple bear]

Long ago even before world sliders in a land known as beta portals could teleport ores

It displeased Dvoid greatly

You will build outposts and like it or endure monotonous sailing trips

[green reef]

finding Yag was difficult, finding Queen broke me and I had to look it up

[supple bear]

Queens rock is pretty distinct from a distance

The secret to mistlands has always been just go above the mist

The game pretty much hints for you to do it with the feather cape

[green reef]

probably can't put images in this channel?

[hard sluice]

i finally found a second mistland mine with a vesygir stone in my no map run. i'm lining up lights and benches across continents to try to find where they intersect. i did so many mines already, i have enough for more than 3 sealbreakers...

[supple bear]

have to put in screenshot and link it here

I found 12 cores in one dungeon

[hard sluice]

i have 20 extra cores that i dont know what to do with : P

[supple bear]

Theres a rare prefab that has like 6 in it

and a bunch of bugs

[green reef]

mine worked. it was hard to even line up my build item. but it was correct, I just did it wrong

[supple bear]

You only need 15, the rest are useless

[hard sluice]

the problem with the 1st line is that it crosses a huge continent. the second one confirmed that it wasnt on that continent*, its beyond.

i explored more mistland in that run than in all my previous combined..

[supple bear]

Deep north going to be just as mountainy

Not sure if going high will get you above the blizzard or not

will have to wait and see

[green reef]

https://i.imgur.com/9Ap3O0I.png imgur links okay?

[supple bear]

generally you want to upload it in the #screenshots channel then copy the link and post it here

[green reef]

oh, after 5 minute timeout I tired something else 😄

https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/aiMtoGvjCRhUpnE4lsOFb8qDTKYhxAm8FN-SV0KAU1M/https/i.imgur.com/9Ap3O0I.png?format=webp&quality=lossless&width=1571&height=1748

oof

doesn't seem any better?

[last wadi]

hey all is there a word from the devs this month?

[hard sluice]

that section south east has a very particular shape. i'd get very confused if i had to deal with that w/o a map.

[steel mica]

Are you dramatically looking at the horizon again

[green reef]

I didn't "cheat" until just pre-queen. got lost several times

[steel mica]

-No

[hard sluice]

i almost broke many times and turned on map, or checked the seed online. but i didnt..!
so tempting..

[steel mica]

ngl 9 roots in one area is overkill

for sap production

[green reef]

the queen problem. can't view vesigrs on the seed map? but I think even triagulation would be difficult

[hard sluice]

i'm about 90% done with the triangulation method. i'll be able to tell you if its doable or not...

so far, its a ridiculous amount of efforts. i can say that much.

[green reef]

yes, to both. triangulation will work. but its ridiculously hard baed on vesigr rarity

I feel like I got a good seed

[hard sluice]

it would be 10x worse if i was dying in the middle of the mistland, without a map to find my body.
But i play very carefully. i'll drink resist meads as soon as i hear a gjall. stuff like that.

i cant wait to watch what my seed looks like, once i'm done 😛
I bet what i picture in my head isn't very accurate xD

[green reef]

fire resist from Gjall horn. yes.

[hard sluice]

i'll always remember that time i went explore west, got lost... and somehow ended up at my starting point, coming from the east...
I'm still confused about it

[green reef]

haha, I'm like. this is north right? everytime I sail

[hard sluice]

someone understands my pain. it feels good

[green reef]

I was hoping my map would show how hard it was to find queen. a little bit angle off or ... look that black forest is a better landing base.. suddenly, never could find queen

[hard sluice]

it was making me a bit anxious when i only had 1 stone. theres a real chance that i can walk close to the queens lair and not notice it.
its hard to rule out areas as '100% explored'

[green reef]

how can you 100% explore it without 10000000 mist lamps

[steel mica]

I have a guess, a theory perhaps

That the heavy set in deep north will be a paladin like armor

[copper karma]

Having a hard time finding Fenring trophies.

[hard sluice]

yeah same, its the one trophy that i wish i had, but don't.
I found a stone golem trophy before that one.

[lone rampart]

I've got a theory, that it's a demon...a dancing demon? No, something isn't right here. 🤔

[hard sluice]

i wouldnt hate a paladin armor, but it doesnt feel very 'viking' to me.

[tough mulch]

I hope we get some amazing build peices for DN, white walls or stuff would be great

[lone rampart]

They've teased some fun build pieces in the dev logs so far

[tough mulch]

Mages dont feel viking either lol

[hard sluice]

i wouldnt mind if there was no magic. i dont disagree.

[copper karma]

You don't have to do magic or wear certain armor if you don't want to

[tough mulch]

Honestly wouldn't DN have the most viking thing ever

Its the north, its snowing, you can't miss that opportunity to make some chieftan lvl viking gear

[hard sluice]

yeah i just dont use the magic stuff. i'm not going to be suggesting to remove magic from the game 😛

[tough mulch]

I want more axes

I dont mind dual axe but a usable one handed axe atleast so I have a shield

Oh well, guess I'll wait

[hard sluice]

i'm using jotuns bane at the moment... 1st time i craft one.
because its easier to repair than a blackmetal axe. lvl1 blackforge vs lvl3 forge.

[shy marlin]

sorry for your loss

[hard sluice]

its about saving ship storage space.

[iron breach]

Hey guys

Someone wanna teach me modding basics

[steel mica]

#mods-discussion ask some folks in here

[iron breach]

TYSM!

[steel mica]

They'll guide ya

[hard sluice]

(the way i see it, now that bears are a thing, it pays to use axes for them and gain skills for the berserkirs in late game.)

[errant carbon]

I mean, in general I don't think axes are a bad choice for black forest (Except Trolls). They deal with all the enemies there pretty comfortably. Could farm a decent amount of levels before you get to the swamp

[tacit crystal]

Using axes to level up axes skill is helpful for getting battleaxe starting from swamp.

[steel mica]

Interesting discovery

Frost blobs can damage heavy buildables

[west mica]

Dev blog today? 👉 👈

[last otter]

Why are you shy? Lol.

[hazy canopy]

hi, how is game lookin rn? last biom in?
also i dont remember, but can u play in 2 ppl without dedicated server? like in conan exiles, second person could join to you as coop?

[candid basalt]

Host computer can support 10, but unless you have an amazing internet, I wouldn't do more than 5

[hazy canopy]

i am fine with just me + friend .) optic 100/100 could be enough

[tacit crystal]

Deep North under production, timeline remains unknown.

[hazy canopy]

Well, heat up under the clocks so they are not frozen xD
Will the new biome coming into the game require to start over the new generated map?

[steel mica]

As long as you dont explore southern of the map you're good to continue on your main world

But devs recommend a fresh start for the best experience

[formal torrent]

Milk brother ✋️

[last otter]

Milk brother!

[formal torrent]

How do you do

[last otter]

I’m well, thank you. You?

[formal torrent]

I'm good aside from it being well below freezing and my room not having heat

[near furnace]

south? you mean north? 😄

[near furnace]

1. you don't need a new map.
2. you can host for your friend just like in conan

[formal torrent]

I saw that too but didn't want to say anything 😭

[last otter]

Oh, shoot. I hope you warm up bro.

[meager fossil]

A bear kills me. I craft 100 fire arrows to take revenge. I find said bear and start fighting it. It suddenly disappears lmfao

Little b*stard

[formal torrent]

Your problem is that you're trying to fight a bear with a bow

Grab an axe/sword and a shield and get up in that fuckers face

[meager fossil]

Why is that a problem? With fire arrows its decent damage 😄 Just kite and shoot

Also I dont have access to those things yet. Thats why Im relying on fire arrows

[formal torrent]

Because its not decent damage lmao

You don't have access to a flint axe?

Or a wooden shield?

[meager fossil]

I do, and parrying a simple bear attack removes 90% of my health and staggers me

[formal torrent]

You only wanna parry the single paw swipes

[meager fossil]

Or kite with a bow? There are numerous ways to play lol

[formal torrent]

The attacks where he stomps with both paws are dangerous and should be dodged

Im just saying you're gonna waste a LOT of time killing it with a bow. Bears are strong against piercing damage but weak to slashing

[meager fossil]

I have almost 1000 hours in Valheim, Im not clueless on whats available to me 😄

[formal torrent]

Suit yourself, just tryna help.

[meager fossil]

I appreciate it, but I didnt ask for help! Just thought it was funny how the bear disappeared all of the sudden 😄 Fighting it with a bow and fire arrow was a decision haha

[formal torrent]

When you say disappeared do you mean it like ran away? Or literally vanished

[meager fossil]

It probably just ran away. I was turning my back to it to kite and when I turned around it was nowhere to be found lol

They run pretty fast so it probably just decided to travel

[formal torrent]

Oh dang

[meager fossil]

Im not sure how common that is for the bear to do when its in an active fight. The bear is new to me. The trolls dont seem to do that

[formal torrent]

Ive had it happen at least once every time I fight a bear, but usually if you just chase it for like 10 seconds it starts chasing you again

Sometimes it's only 5 seconds, sometimes that mfer will run for like a full minute

Doesn't seem to depend on their health either so I'm not sure what's up with that

[meager fossil]

Does the Atgeir also stagger the bear with its secondary? Making it possible to stunlock it like the troll?

[abstract warren]

Oh shit I can discover underground muddy scrap piles with my wishbone in swamp

Awesome

[gray sand]

3rd forge type is going to make some people happy and some people very, very mad 😂

[long furnace]

huh?

[gray sand]

Indeed!

[abstract warren]

I was so confused why it's beeping in swamp lol

[gray sand]

You can find stuff in the Meadows too.

[abstract warren]

Yeah I found a chest with a wooden axe and a silver necklace...

Super exciting lol

[sinful fulcrum]

Chat, we have to expand the long house (again)

[rugged bridge]

Gonna guess this update is coming december 2026 judging by how little we get to see from the new clips and all the info is just found in the screenshot below said clip

[hallow saddle]

Nah it can stay out in the cold 😛

[meager fossil]

Quick question! Has the axe become better as a weapon choice? Or is it still a niche choice compared to sword? 🙂

[hallow saddle]

I still prefer axe, personal preference

[sinful fulcrum]

dual wield or 1handed?

[hallow saddle]

single with shield

[meager fossil]

We can dual wield?

[sinful fulcrum]

Later somewhere

[hallow saddle]

Dual Shield, that would be a little niche 😛

[sinful fulcrum]

not dual wield, but a weapon that can be dual wielded

[meager fossil]

Ah

Still, I remember the whole axe vs sword discussion always pointed towards the sword just being straight better. Axe never seemed to get a proper spot as a weapon choice

Which is a bit of a shame since axes and spears were the most used weapons by vikings

[copper karma]

Knife

[gray sand]

Combat-wise the sword is still bugged and objectively better.
Axe does save you an inventory slot with it being dual-purpose.

[hallow saddle]

Funny that movies rarely dipict that though

[barren whale]

"bugged" lol

[gray sand]

Yes.

[barren whale]

if axes were equal or better nobody would waste an inventory slot on swords

[meager fossil]

Saving 1 inventory slot really isnt worth sacrificing the superior damage. I really wish they would make the axe a more viable choice

[gray sand]

If they fix bug, it becomes discussion again 🤷‍♂️

[meager fossil]

It shouldnt be "better" it should be different but more viable than it is

Could be more dmg but slower. Sword is faster but less dmg

[tacit crystal]

Sword has superior secondary attack, dealing 3x damage.

[hallow saddle]

Dane axe could disarm or hinder a shield by hooking it

[barren whale]

the movesets are unfortunately close enough that that's not much room for that kinda variation
its jsut swing swing 2x dmg swing

[barren whale]

that's fair

[meager fossil]

Which is why I always thought we should have a felling axe, and a war axe

[gray sand]

Dance axe.

[barren whale]

how many people are using nidhogg out in ashlands though, where berserkir is pretty much head and shoulders above

[analog pewter]

https://tenor.com/view/mellstroy-bravo-twitch-gif-903709332552318194

[barren whale]

granted berserkir is absurdly fucking OP and utility

[gray sand]

Nidhogg allows buckler for higher blocking.

[gray sand]

Axe secondary should be a throw 😭

[meager fossil]

I strongly disagree 😱 🤣

[barren whale]

yeah nah lol

[hallow saddle]

Hammer has a better beat though

[gray sand]

?

[barren whale]

i'd be more interested if throwing weapons were less clunky than with spears

[gray sand]

Viking Throwing Axe is one of the higher regarded weapons in history.

[meager fossil]

Axe secondary changing wouldnt make sense, since its function is for tree cutting. If you change it for a battle action, it will lose utility as a tool

[gray sand]

No? Still cuts tree just fine.

[meager fossil]

If you throw your primary weapon and you miss or the enemy is still alive, you have no weapon left to fight with

[gray sand]

Pro tip: Don't miss.

[vagrant mulch]

Hands?

[meager fossil]

Knife hands

[median ibex]

Instead of trying to turn the axe into something it's not, I'd rather have an axe which is specifically designed to be a weapon, but of course with lower chop damage than our usual axes - perhaps half.

[meager fossil]

I think a better axe secondary would be a "snake bite". A quick jab

[barren whale]

i've been told that hitbox changes make it a lot easier to deal with stumps nowadays
the main issue is that spear crafting mats are balanced around the possibility of losing your spear
and the spear kinda sucks without the throw
as-is, throwing an axe and missing = rip like 150 blackmetal lmao

[meager fossil]

Absolutely agree

Felling axe and war axe

[abstract warren]

How am supposed to mine the waterlogged muddy scrap piles?

[hallow saddle]

https://media.tenor.com/zRzIlQZapgYAAAAM/mc-hammer.gif

[abstract warren]

Damn it

[tacit crystal]

Axe secondary should deal more damage, 1,5x damage is quite low for stamina cost considered.

Although it has no MTP.

[meager fossil]

MTP?

[gray sand]

Spear, and absolutely incredible weapon, "kinda sucks" -- ok lol

[barren whale]

i could see the axe being viable if you kept it the shit primaries that it has now
but gave the option of throwing
it would be pretty funny actually, i'd support it as a meme
(but if you middle click in front of a stump it does the current overhand chop, like how the primary chain is disabled when you hit trees)

[meager fossil]

Oh dont get me started on spears lmfao

[barren whale]

yes we all know the spear is godly for speedrunners
it is not viable if you are playing with friends

[gray sand]

Get started on my literal favorite weapon.
I'm here for it.

[supple fossil]

I just wanted dual wielding swords

[gray sand]

Dual wielding spears when 😏

[meager fossil]

I just hate its animations. I cant talk about its viability as I never really use it. But I HAAATE its animation of thrusting downwards right in front of you, instead of proper straight thrusts that utilitize its full length.

[hallow saddle]

these should have an upgrade into Polearms, ie spear + axe is poleax, spear + hammer pole hammer etc

[meager fossil]

We literally use the spear like an ice pick

[gray sand]

Well at least you admit you're in no place to talk about viability 😁

[barren whale]

they should share skill curves true
weapon skills are a total mess, melee weapon skills could literally be condensed into one bin and only a bunch of whiners on reddit/discord would be upset

(this is already how magic skills have been designed)

[tacit crystal]

Multi target penalty. The property that lowers total damage dealt when hitting multiple targets in one swing.

[meager fossil]

Honestly Ill compare it to using a gun, but instead of firing straight ahead for range, you point it downwards so you can only hit something 2 meters in front of you

[tacit crystal]

Most 2h weapons don't have it: battleaxes, 2h swords, sledges, atgeir secondary etc.

Also 1h sword primary attack.

[nocturne wolf]

Valheim’s spears are useful and unique weapons even with the short range

[gray sand]

Bug.

[nocturne wolf]

Just use a polearm if you want to attack further

[barren whale]

wait has this guy been calling the 1h sword mtp a bug the entire time

[meager fossil]

I really dont like that argument. While its true, id much rather see spears get new animations 😂

[hallow saddle]

stabby stabby on a hill 🤔

[barren whale]

they'd be a fantastic weapon if the inventory stuff was fixed imo
its just that picking up a thrown spear is completely unusable in multiplayer unless only one person uses a spear and the others disable autopickup

[median ibex]

The part I love most about them is just how fast they attack :3

[hybrid orbit]

LETS FKNG GOO!!! Update on The North?!

Or am i mistaken?

[gray sand]

Go read it. 😁

[barren whale]

oh yep that's a blog update

[silk token]

spears let me not have a lame bow in my inventory so i love them

[hallow saddle]

It's a cool update 😛

[barren whale]

and i think you could fix the spear pickup by disabling autopickup on all except the owner (the opposite of how items dragged out of the inventory behave) and then it'd be perfect
but this hasn't been done after 5 years 🤷‍♂️ so i assume its intentional

[hybrid orbit]

Fk FK Fk isnot.ok,wake me up when theres new about it,also would be cool to have saberthoot monster...im goin back to my coffin

[tacit crystal]

Before Mistlands update swords did have MTP in their primary attacks.

[gray sand]

An actual Deep North blog is... "not" a Deep North blog?

[barren whale]

ohhh do they lack mtp now
i've been under the assumption that mtp in 1h swords has been around since 2022

[meager fossil]

Isnt it "just" a teaser" trailer to keep people interested? Nothing wrong with that, but its not a "its about to drop" kinda update 😉

[barren whale]

its always seemed pretty fair to me (until Ashlands, slash was not a very good damage type)

[tacit crystal]

They don't have mtp = multi target penalty. Having penalty means damage splitting when hitting multiple targets per hit.

Swords don't have it, meaning their damage doesn't get split.

[barren whale]

oh right this always happens 🤣

[gray sand]

1h should have mtp, and did have it.
2h should not.
When they added 2h, something got switched to where 1h did not have it and 2h did.
They have since fixed 2h.
Waiting on fix for 1h.

[barren whale]

yeah i'm pretty sure swords always had advantage in multi-target situations (no MTP damage loss)
since 2022

[clear socket]

bro release the deep north already good lord

[barren whale]

it could've been hearth and home that introduced the change?
because blackmetal sword definitely was a dominant weapon despite the stats and hitbox being mid

[clear socket]

talkin bout some frozen theme

[gray sand]

2022 was Mistlands release, which is when the bug occurred.

[barren whale]

is this "1h should have mtp" something smiffe or another dev has explicityly stated or is it your opinion

[meager fossil]

That comment made them push the update back a year 😈

[hallow saddle]

is that a pun on mistlands 😛

[gray sand]

No.

[barren whale]

mistlands ptb was 2022 and live was 2023 iirc

[tacit crystal]

Who bro gonna release it?
Devs will when the time is right.

[barren whale]

oh no live was dec 2022

[hallow saddle]

Mistlands is full of bugs, was kidding 😉

[gray sand]

I'm aware that your role in this server is to have the opposing opinion to everything I say, so I will let you draw you own conclusions.

[barren whale]

but yeah for most of 2022 swords definitely had the advantage due to lack of mtp

[gray sand]

They did not.

[hybrid orbit]

Im to blind to read and i wake up a few minutes

[barren whale]

yeah i can only find smiffe talking about mtp for 1h/2h swords once and it was him discovering it existed so i'm gonna assume its whatever he decides by 1.0

[clear socket]

i believe you

[silk token]

smiffe said he pushed hard for 2 hand swords to not have mtp when they ninja changed it during cta ptb, so i imagine swords are staying without mtp

[barren whale]

i think everyone agrees 2h swords should do AOE dmg (no mtp)
the debate, if there is one, is whether 1h swords should also do AOE dmg (no mtp)

iirc 1h and even 2h secondary thrusts are subject to mtp

[silk token]

they are yeah

[fleet citrus]

guys how do i get new crafting recipes? i wanna craft armor im new

[barren whale]

pre-ashlands i'd say 1h swords definitely needed some kinda advantage over clubs/atgeirs to be relevant
and no-mtp was a pretty relevant way of giving that needed buff

now that everything in ashlands is slash-neutral and there's no sword with absurd stats like mistwalker/silver,
i think swords are in a better place, but still are really far behind berserkir axes just from raw dps

[silk token]

personally i think the whats it called… -where you cant attack multiple things if theres a thing too close- is clunky enough for 1 hand swords that it’s fine and still keeps battleaxes superior for multi target combat since they always hit everything

[gray sand]

The one that lets you carry the shield for insane blocking power SHOULD be behind in DPS. That's just... basic logic.

[silk token]

if you play the minigame of lining up enemies correctly with a sword its a fun bonus but not op

[barren whale]

yeah 2h having no mtp is absolutely great
if anything i'd ask for slight hitbox increases for the 2h stuff because i feel like i noclip with 2h sword primaries a bit (battleaxe less so)

[median ibex]

I think 1h swords having no mtp on primary attacks is generally fine.
Clubs have quite a few strong options via Porcupine 'n' Frostner being very strong at what they do due to split damage, and then Iron Mace, Bronze Mace, 'n' Club being great for Black Forest Crypts and then most of the Swamp biome.
Axes are mostly tools still, so their usefulness comes from that.
And Spears attack very, very, very quickly, on top of having a favourable damage type for certain enemies; Trolls, Loxes, etc.

The benefit of the 2h weapons is the inherently higher damage, and thus stagger due to stagger being tied to physical (and lightning) damage; this higher stagger also leads to MORE damage too due to 2x damage vs staggered enemies.

[barren whale]

these days you can't even parry Reto in a normal/fast playthrough with a maxed out carapace buckler unless you go 3H so idk bruh 🤣
i would like to see a general buff to shields to be on par with bubble, Fader power was a good step but yeah

[nocturne wolf]

That’s hit through walls disabled

[gray sand]

1 enemy being the exception does not necessitate shields needing to be buffed at all.

[barren whale]

to be fair Reto is an exception but i've never felt rewarded for carrying a shield in late game
especially now that rolling gives you stam AND adrenaline

[silk token]

it would be cool if for 2 hand swords enemies didnt count as walls

[fleet citrus]

how do i get new crafting recipes? i wanna craft armor im new

[hallow saddle]

YOu discover new materials, and use workbench to make things

[barren whale]

who would win, a giant chunk of metal swung at light speed
or one (1) neck

[silk token]

although THEN 2 hand swords would be too strong compared to axe and id finally agree with battleaxe buff

[median ibex]

Finding new items grants you new crafting recipes.
e.g. Deer Hide unlocks the Leather Armour 'n' Deer Hide Cape for you iirc

[fleet citrus]

so new material unlock them? i know abt workbench

maaan i didnt even enter the black forest and some brute things killed me

[hallow saddle]

As you discover new material, watch the popups for the new unlocked recipes. Then you can make all of those using that new material.

Some benches will need to be upgraded to make some of the new ones. Multiple resources will also unlock dual material recipes to make specific things

[final linden]

What notable changes are in the trailer? I just see wood and white snow

[barren whale]

tbh by this logic attack speed should be decreased when you equip a shield or something 🤷‍♂️
i can't defend this

[hallow saddle]

Which biome yo discovered, meadows is start, then black forest?

[fleet citrus]

yea, those 2

[slender saddle]

Snow in plains, meadows and swamps it appears. Seasons, potentially?

[hallow saddle]

kk, so for example, resin and wood makes torches. Some new trees have new wood as resource and so on

Good luck exploring 😄

[flat pivot]

Or maybe killing Fader upsets the balance of your world.

[silk token]

i feel like the visions of things to come and snow everywhere is a bit ragnarok-y. like when you kill fader everywhere is snow biome until you kill X in DN, like narnia, always winter never christmas

[flat pivot]

Or it's just a weather effect that comes with a new raid

[slender saddle]

That would be cool

[silk token]

ohhhhhhhh shoot. ok now im thinking. so I always thought it was weird that Odin sent us to kill these banished creatures, why doesn’t he do it himself? UNLESS. one of those creatures is destined to kill him during ragnarok

[hallow saddle]

Be like snow across your roof after Santa arrives

[silk token]

and so ragnarok starts happening (snow and cold everywhere) and we have to kill the boss of the DN, Fenrir

[abstract warren]

Do we get new dreams as we play..?

[flat pivot]

Ah yes, the Fenris winter

[tacit crystal]

Try evasion mantle and HHH food setup.

[silk token]

That’s the only reason to me it makes sense odin doesn’t just do this himself.

[nocturne wolf]

Do what?

[silk token]

still doesn’t answer who the winter child is or how they cause ragnarok but…

[barren whale]

bubble users be like "look at what they need just to mimic a fraction of our power"

[silk token]

Kill all these forsaken

[nocturne wolf]

He could have done the first few, and then maybe cheese fenrir with a bow

[hallow saddle]

Skoll chasing down the Sun, or Hati devouring the Moon. Moonless night, sunless days

[silk token]

Odin: “go, scour the battlefields, find me warriors who can make tall dirt mounts and never unequip their bow…”

[flat pivot]

Lif & Lifthrasir?

[hallow saddle]

Ah but then we would need to cheese it hiding in Hoddmímis.

||Have a feeling this is the new wood type||

[proper holly]

Cool word from devs, any estimate for the update?

[tacit crystal]

If none is given, then there is none.

[proper holly]

i mean it should be estimated at least if it will be 1st or 2nd part of the year or if it will not even be available this year, was not asking about a release date, just maybe a period

[barren whale]

sometime before or after GTA VI no doubt

give or take a couple years

[flat pivot]

The teasers for the new dungeon do look like tangles of roots

[barren whale]

almost certainly after Silksong

[hallow saddle]

So hoping the Boss is a giant wolf

[supple fossil]

I almost wish there were quest lines that you needed to actually complete. Like a classification question to allow a more skillful attack or defense depending on how you play it. It should be a requirement before the deep north

[flat pivot]

Gotta admit, I only know Lif & Lifthrasir from Midgard by Wolfgang & Heike Hohlbein

[supple fossil]

It’ll be a yeti of some sort

[hallow saddle]

true, good thought

We need Heiðrún to celebrate the final victory 😉

https://youtu.be/tGeSEbYzhBU?t=40

[flat pivot]

Well, Ashlands didn't have fire giants, the Fenris Wolf for Deep North makes sense. I WAS hoping for frost giants tho (Maybe dropping black cores?)

[barren whale]

*looks at trollstav* we have fire giants at home

[hallow saddle]

ooh, frost giant dropping teeth LOL

[flat pivot]

Then again, the Jotunn seem to have murked each other in whatever war was going on in the Mistlands

[hallow saddle]

True, but I do like the last update. Bears was a nice surprise. I did a start over, first one was a 1 star too. Took forever to get him for me rug

[flat pivot]

The worldwide winter could also happen after you beat the Deep North boss

Which doesn't have to be the final boss of the game

Could be that the Fenris Wolf can be found in any biome then

[supple fossil]

Fenris randomly attacks me in the plains lo

[hallow saddle]

My hopes would be an Ocean and Sky biome before ending. Ocean, just like the Bears adding more complexity and threat while sailing. Then sky to move to another world "so to speak" via say Bifröst or some such other

[flat pivot]

Yeh, scale armor would be nice.

[spice bear]

Am i tripin or in main banner is something in the background that devs didnt mention and it is not in game? It looks like frozen ground with tower in middle of it? maybe you have some ideas?

[flat pivot]

main banner?

[spice bear]

I mean of the monthly Word From the Devs

[flat pivot]

Ah, kinda looks like a frozen impact crater

[paper marsh]

spoilers

[hallow saddle]

open the image into a new tab and it shows full size

reminds me of those pillars in a frozen plain 😉

||just don't zoom in|| 😉

[spice bear]

I have the same idea, maybe it will cause snow in area of plains and others?

[split adder]

how do i fend against seekers

[hallow saddle]

Fuling need some fluffy ear muffs, RSPCA notified

[prime plume]

they seek, there's no hiding.

[wary kettle]

When the game fully releases, do y’all plan on starting new worlds? Or just keep playing on the same ones?

[prime plume]

maybe a bit of both for me, I'll ramp up difficulty on the new world probably.

wbu?

[wary kettle]

I’m not sure. I am very new to this game, just starting playing maybe 2 weeks ago. So I don’t know how much my world will change after an update

[prime plume]

as long as you don't go too far north your fine. anywhere there's fog is undiscovered.

[flat pivot]

Don't fight Seekers when you can make them a Dvergr problem 😁

[split adder]

surely running naked into the mistlands without anything to help me see is a good idea

[flat pivot]

it actually is sometimes

[prime plume]

therefore once the update comes the world would accomodate the new lands

[gray sand]

New world, same seed.

[prime plume]

I hated my seed XD I was surrounded by water, but I'm already established so had to deal with it XD

[marble cypress]

Bit of both - hubby and I have a shared world where we're avoiding the North so we'll keep that one to not have to do everything over. For a solo game, though, I'll start a new one for myself maybe with combat ramped up for a challenge. I like the climb through the biomes!

[gray sand]

I was given a seed by a good fren, and I will pretty much never switch from it 😄

[prime plume]

lucky!

[gray sand]

I am a mountain-baser, and she had one with the tallest mountain in the game. 🙂

[prime plume]

how bad is the delay for you two when you play?

[prime plume]

I got mountain trauma.

[marble cypress]

Usually not bad at all! Every once in a while we get some lag or disconnect, but I blame our internet rather than the game.

[prime plume]

I see, hummm maybe it was just the sheer distance with a friend that the delay was terrible.

[marble cypress]

Ah yes that is possible - we are 6 feet from one another on the same connection.

[formal torrent]

Is it normal for greylings to de-aggro once they're in your house?

[prime plume]

only time it's really bad is when fighting

[prime plume]

they are there to inspect the bones of your home.

[formal torrent]

That does not answer my question T_T

I brought a greyling in to trap it and farm block levels, but he lost aggro and is just wandering around

[prime plume]

you can block train with twigs if you have the ectoplasm for it. I'd argue it's faster if you have 5-6 twigs.

[tough mulch]

might have aggroed to your bench

[formal torrent]

No it's not attacking my house at all

It has the yellow circle above it like it heard something but refuses to aggro or do anything other than walk around aimlessly

[tough mulch]

the fastest way is capuring skeleton archers from a swamp skeleton spawner, trapping them and using a serpant shield to block their arrow.

a bit of a set-up but its a permanent way to re-raise your lvl if you die

[prime plume]

probably saw the state of your home and pitied you.

[tough mulch]

damn

[formal torrent]

Lol I appreciate the jokes but I genuinely want to know what's going on here

I guess I've just got a pet greyling now

[prime plume]

no idea. I just immediately kill them for their noise.

[tough mulch]

do you have something under the floor

a chicken, a pet anything thats tamed

[formal torrent]

Nope

[tough mulch]

if they are on top of it, can't see or near it they will be alerted

[gray sand]

Greylings.. the reason Meadows is the worst biome.

[tough mulch]

breuh

[prime plume]

I mean the further u get into the game, everyone want's a slice of your home.

[lone rampart]

If there’s fire nearby, it makes them afraid and breaks aggro

[prime plume]

maybe that's why they don't go inside my house, there's fire by the door.

[gray sand]

Mountain bases for me.
Followed by Plains.

[tough mulch]

anywhere except mistlands for me

people say its a beautiful place, unfortunately I cant see

[lone rampart]

If I find a nice clear spot to build in, Mistlands is my favorite biome

[gray sand]

Mountaintops poking just above the middle of Mistlands are one of my favorites tbh.

[split adder]

without the fog its nice

[prime plume]

how do you go about supporting roofs? I'm not the best architect

[gray sand]

Iron.

[marble cypress]

Yes, its always been that way. I tried to trap one once for blocking practice and it de-aggros. After a while it will prob just despawn entirely.

[gray sand]

Iron and Black Marble, my beloved building materials.

[prime plume]

like? framing?

[marble cypress]

Core wood early on, and iron wood poles and stone later. They allow you to chain more pieces together to get higher roofs without collapse.

[gray sand]

Yes? That's how you build in Valheim.
Same as IRL -- build the frame first, then attach walls/roofs/etc.

[prime plume]

I'm used to minecraft physics, so I don't really think about building that deep, if it works, I don't touch it XD

[marble cypress]

Yes, you can do a proper sort of framing. If you don't want to go that far, you can pop a central pole into areas that you are struggling with to sometimes get tricky spots to stay in place - it just might not look as nice.

[gray sand]

Yeah, need to shake all the MC out of your brain for this game 💛

[marble cypress]

This might help: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=poX2VEFSD_w

[prime plume]

literally, lol, my house is a big stone box with an industrial building roof.

if you've seen one of those buildings where the roof's are just triangle's that's what my roofing looks like..

[split adder]

what should i look for when first entering the mistlands

[tough mulch]

for settingling down, dvgr bases

use the card trick to break their wards and you can live in their base rent free

[prime plume]

I brute forced mine since I apparently hit one of the boys.

[tough mulch]

yeah you can hit them by accident

[lone rampart]

Just don’t hit the ones with the fire staffs they will take their entire fort down with them

[tough mulch]

after settling the next goal is black marble and infested mines

[prime plume]

a gjall did that for my place, it looks dilapitated af

[tough mulch]

the crops are all over the place so you can pick them up on the way

[lone rampart]

Doom trumpets

[tough mulch]

farting noise intensifies

[prime plume]

it'd help if you also bring fire resistance meads from the plains

[chrome badge]

I was lucky my first steps into Mistlands were watching a Dvergr die to two Seekers, leaving them with a sliver of health, and leaving me a nice completed dockhouse.

[lone rampart]

I was hopping around the Mistlands and actually spotted a gjall at enough distance (huge mist-free patch) that I took him down with a crossbow before he could even get close enough to attack

[prime plume]

honestly? I only started to get into building since entering ashlands, it sucks the nicest looking foundation piece is behind the ashlands (grausten)

[tough mulch]

the worse gjall is the one you cant see

[prime plume]

the fart from the mist.

it's even worse when one manages to sneak up on you.

[chrome badge]

I'll never forget watching a Gjall get absolutely bodied by a Wraith.

[split adder]

why do seekers do so much damage

[tough mulch]

no root harnest?

[prime plume]

either your block is too low, (because your armor isn't high enough) or food is too weak

[gray sand]

Block?

[chrome badge]

Don't worry once you adjust to the armors of the biome, it will be better, it's just growing pains when starting a biome.

[gray sand]

Armor has nothing to do with blocking.

[prime plume]

meant it for the shield

[gray sand]

Block Armor and Armor are very different terms 💛

[prime plume]

😛

[gray sand]

I'm not being cheeky. There are new players who will upgrade their worn armor thinking it helps them block better because people don't clarify the difference.

[prime plume]

makes sense, I'm terrible with explanations at times too.

gasp palia!?

[lone rampart]

I was an alpha tester for Palia…I nearly forgot it released!

[prime plume]

pretty neat game, and as per usual my house is empty I live outside in a small shack surrounded by plush's

[lone rampart]

As one should

[prime plume]

I gotta get back into that game and get myself the new plushies. I stopped just before the shark plushies came out.

[gray sand]

Yes? The greatest plushie game ever made?

[timber marsh]

This is what the Firestaff is for

KaBOOM

[split adder]

what do i do in a dverger settlement

[gray sand]

Kill./

[prime plume]

I want to see your collection!!!

[timber marsh]

The first dverger I met saved my life tho..m

[prime plume]

Ricko?

[tough mulch]

break their wards with the cart method, its on youtube

and put your portal in their base

[prime plume]

if nobody got that reference Imma be sad.

[timber marsh]

Oh? Watching lox vs gjall is entertaining

[tough mulch]

thats because you replied to the firestaff line not the kaboom one

[timber marsh]

I can't post the gif

[prime plume]

aww gifs are not allowed?

[timber marsh]

#mods-screenshots message

[split adder]

what if i kill the dvergr

[prime plume]

that's if you can. maybe with spikes? it'll take awhile but they shouldn't hit back?

[tacit crystal]

Killing them prevents them trying to kill you.

[gray sand]

You get their stuff. Which is why you should kill them.

[split adder]

are they hard to kill

[timber marsh]

I lured a gjall at them and it broke open all their stuff for me

[gray sand]

Only if they have a starred healer.

[prime plume]

they have the tendency of two tapping you.

[gray sand]

Otherwise no.

[timber marsh]

Stole their stuff while they thought I was a hero

[prime plume]

you monster

[timber marsh]

I hunger for the eitr

[tacit crystal]

I found battleaxe great against them. Try gather them on one spot, then start hacking, they get staggered and killed by second or third hit.

[timber marsh]

I'm more of a hammer time kind of person

[split adder]

since the settlement is on an elevated point above water, if i push them all into the water can they get back up

[timber marsh]

Devious... I like it

[prime plume]

just hope they don't drown and you don't get the seeker special

[lusty dirge]

Beware of the mages, especially starred ones. They belong to the scariest enemies in the entire game imo

[split adder]

i think they unfortunately can get back up

[prime plume]

I laughed watching a rogue stand in lava in ashlands

[tacit crystal]

Just noticed in this clip there was starred mage: #memes-and-clips message

[lusty dirge]

The rogues are no problem, but the mages.. They deal damage fast and the frost ones can seriously cripple your mobility

[prime plume]

dude outside knew what was about to go down XD

[gray sand]

No healer, no problem.

[timber marsh]

Omg please an upgrade for the scale shield it's my favorite design It pained me to retire it to being a display piece

With a silver sword it looks so pretty

[tacit crystal]

Axe goes pokey, enemy goes okey.

[barren whale]

LMAO the knockback is great

[tacit crystal]

It's ultimate control poke. Like against fuling villages you can poke starred ones to wait their turn and finish the non starred ones first.

[barren whale]

damn yea I've definitely been putting off the battleaxe playthrough too long

[gray sand]

I did a full run with BA's just to give them a fair shake.
And I still firmly believe they need to shave 0.1s off the initial windup.

[silk token]

thats only because you insist on parrying every gd mob instead of swinging at them

[prime plume]

parrying is satisfying tho

[gray sand]

I would honestly find more validity in this if the stats were swapped between BA's and claymores.
As it stands, swords do more but block less, and BA's block more.
So... why have more block if not to block with?

[silk token]

or you can just kill it. swing swing instead of parry swing. battleaxe has increased stagger but lets make sure we dont take advantage of it and stagger by parrying because reasons

[gray sand]

Reasons listed above.

[silk token]

idk i dont block hardly ever with it too busy smashing so the block armor could be 1 for all i care

[gray sand]

I'm sorry that I read?

[prime plume]

my only motive is to parry and strike, I don't block or dodge.

[glass edge]

New hervor clip showing more feminine females and seasons coming to all biomes?

[slender saddle]

I hope that there will be more lore on the stones in the future.

[prime plume]

juat?

[glass edge]

Yes. juat indeed

[gray sand]

Define "feminine females."
Also yikes on the "females."

[prime plume]

dude hit the 2026 cancel bingo card

[gray sand]

And we are still in January 😭

[glass edge]

Not looking exactly the same as the male models in the game, ugh

[barren whale]

blocking is not well rewarded in this game because its too damn easy lol
why right clikc when you can stagger a whole group by left clicking

but it makes good sense to me that the 2h weapons with slow ass windups reward spacing, positioning and timing

[chrome badge]

Damn, you're missing out on some adrenaline without dodges.

[gray sand]

I am fine with slow.
I just think it is barely too slow.

[barren whale]

which imo are more skill expressive than parrying
and are certainly better rewarded, especially on hard/vh

[formal torrent]

Is there some easy way to find birds or feathers?

[barren whale]

i am a bit sad that the sledges don't have a true normal
would love to see even one alternate attack
if any weapon deserves a slow ass windup its them, but there's very little nuance other than left clicking every 2 seconds

[chrome badge]

Chickens 😄

[barren whale]

||chimkn||

[glass edge]

Harpoon em

[formal torrent]

We're still in the black forest

[prime plume]

where's the adrenaline in dodging? I get Real life adrenaline from parrying.

[chrome badge]

Ah, cutting trees and bowing birds then.

[formal torrent]

Yeah I'm looking for birds and can't find any lmao

[barren whale]

adrenaline don't matter when they're all dead 😔
this is a problem with basically the whole trinket system though

[chrome badge]

I am talking about the adrenaline system in-game.

[prime plume]

there's seagulls by the shore so just walk along the coast

[prime plume]

I don't need in game adrenaline.

[chrome badge]

It's your problem I guess, I'm always activating that thing.

#IronBroochSquad

[lone rampart]

Me, scrolling through to catch up, confused because I thought it was like “I don’t need adrenaline when I’ve got SEAGULLS”

[barren whale]

do you use the other trinkets all that often? or is it just the iron brooch?

[chrome badge]

I've used them all a fair amount, during public testing and whatnot. I just prefer Iron Brooch after all that.

[prime plume]

I understand lmfao, I keep too many conversations going I get confusing to read XD

[barren whale]

yeah i would argue that's because it's the only reasonably designed one
there's a reason people have converged on it
(and jormundling for endgame)

[gray sand]

Pierce one is amazing for atgeir users.
Slash one comes online in Mistlands and is really good as well.

Bracelets of the Brave (Blunt) is honestly just too expensive - due to the massive secondary part that it doesn't need.

[prime plume]

I reached mistlands before I got to using the trinkets lol

[viral current]

Ashlands will be 2 years old in May

[chrome badge]

There's plenty of reasonably designed trinkets, Evasion Mantle is god tier, I enjoy Heart of the Forest in early game.

[chrome badge]

Agreed, it's just a matter of how you play and what you play with a lot of the time.

[barren whale]

they're usable but you have to go out of your way to use em
and besides iron brooch (and jorm) you don't lose out on that much if you skip
which idk doesn't feel very rewarding

[paper marsh]

Just a bebe

I will be 25 years old in May

[gray sand]

Wolf one is honestly my favorite.
Slash one's stamina bump is really good in addition to the damage it brings.

[chrome badge]

Out of your way is a bit of strange phrasing, combat is combat typically.

[gray sand]

Drop the heal down on Blunt so it can be like.. 65-70 to proc and it will have a solid place.

[paper marsh]

I'm a fan of the fins of destiny. Low adrenaline cost and very good in a pinch

[prime plume]

in a decade or two we'll be going on about "Hey play that song T.G.I.F by taylor swift" and the kids would cringe.

wait was it taylor or katy perry? .-.

or was it neither

[barren whale]

no, it's optimal to change your combat style slightly to minmax adrenaline generation
this is an example, you also want to recast bubble / harpoon bosses during downtime to reset decay and stuff
so adrenaline does alter combat, in a way i find clunky

[prime plume]

harpoons work on bosses?

[chrome badge]

I suppose that's the case for some, it really just encouraged my current combat style that much more.

[barren whale]

they don't but you get adrenaline for hitting the boss
its one of the cheapest ways to reset the adrenaline decay timer

[chrome badge]

I play fast and loose, mostly looking to perfect dodge timing and take down crowds of enemies at once.

[gray sand]

I totally read that as "I play fast and moose."

[split adder]

canadian playstyle when

[paper marsh]

Canadian playstyle pretty OP

[chrome badge]

Don't touch my moose.

[prime plume]

moose will body you and your vehicle.

[barren whale]

there's just a couple trinkets that are very strong and the rest of them you have to go out of your way to activate at all
eg. crystal heart lmao
the multiplier ones are alright but +10% is extremely little compared to eg. parry or stagger at +100%
it'd be nice to see lower thresholds for activation, so at least they're doing something since the effect will be small regardless

[gray sand]

Old Bonemass was literal moose-mode.

[split adder]

now that ive broken the dvergr ward, can i just build whatever without consequence

[gray sand]

Or un-build and use the marble for other projects.

[split adder]

will they hate me if i steal their lantern

[formal torrent]

You can still parry with big shields right?

[lone rampart]

Only if they’re still alive to hate

[gray sand]

Tower Shields cannot parry.

[formal torrent]

Oh dang

[split adder]

will the dvergr care if i break their crates with a cart

[barren whale]

yeah you just hold em out
the big round shields can parry tho, but you gain less block armor from doing so (1.5x) than you would from a parrying with a weapon (2x) or buckler (2.5x)

[barren whale]

nope, that's one of the easiest ways to do it!

you can get the ward too if you're patient

[paper marsh]

Unless you get a knife/fists that's x6 😎

[gray sand]

Fist weapons are slash right?

[paper marsh]

Mostly. I think BF and Mountains is all slash, Plains is mostly pierce with a bit of slash

[gray sand]

Could be interesting running those with the slash trinket.

[barren whale]

yea but knives have very low base block armor
knives are fucking awesome though i'm so hyped for the DN knife

[paper marsh]

Vile claws with vile bear set is pretty nice

But so is a spear with that set

[idle storm]

Shields still have much higher base block armor (which is what the multiplier affects). The higher multiplier just means weapons are viable for parrying but not blocking, not that they parry better than shields (they don't).

[rotund parrot]

DN knifes? Is it christmas already?

[paper marsh]

I was sad at the lack of a blood knife in Ashlands, so interested to see what they cook up

[tiny tiger]

Yoooo

Winter mod being made vanilla

Let’s gooo

That’s gotta be what gets activated when you beat faded

[barren whale]

god a lightning knife would be so absurdly OP
i'm really curious if the gem system will carry over to DN weapons or be expanded, doesn't look like it atm

[tiny tiger]

What makes you say that?

Doesn’t look like it how

[nocturne wolf]

a unique effect designed for each weapon would be better than effects that go on anything

[prime plume]

I was saddened realizing the wound ripper isn't actually doing a bleeding effect but higher damage the lower hp are.

[barren whale]

well there's a dev blog with a gold looking sword and no red/green/blue ones
doesn't rule out the possibility though!

[tiny tiger]

I mean bleeding effect would just be another DoT like poison or fire no

[obtuse laurel]

I think it’s less of a seasons type situation and more of a consequence of killing fader which will cover the world in frost until you do the deep north.

[tiny tiger]

yeah I hope that’s the case

Would make the ending be very impactful

Especially if it’s killing the last boss that clears it

[barren whale]

I generally agree with this, I wasn't particularly impressed with the gem implementation
its really strong on certain things (axes, bows) and not so much on others (crossbows)
at the same time it does give a lot more variety

[tiny tiger]

Unique weapon effects don’t really work with the current frameworks of the weapon system

The physical elemental damage split, unique effects for the elemental damages… Ashland’s gem system

which is not to say I’m against it

[barren whale]

ehhh i'd say its fine
even simple things like the mistwalker/himminafl which are just damage type changes are super well received
its a lot more work to implement than the procedural approach they used for Ashlands though

[paper marsh]

I've been toying with the idea of every DN weapon having an absurb buff to make each weapon unique and tailored to their intended playstyle.

Like DN knife having a 12x backstab multiplier 😂 🔪

[barren whale]

god that would be amazing (and sidestep the potential proc rate issue of a lightning knife)

[nocturne wolf]

dn mace which sends greylings into orbit

[tiny tiger]

I like the idea of making the weapons better at what they’re primarily designed for

[paper marsh]

I don't think we're getting any DN weapons with the same enchantments as Ashlands

[barren whale]

imagine a sword that had shortened windup following a parry

[tiny tiger]

DN Greathammer having an even better AoE

[barren whale]

it could make certain things too strong so it would be tough to balance

[paper marsh]

battleaxe sending out a short-range ice slice on each hit (effectively upping its AoE range)

[tiny tiger]

A magic weapon that turns enemies against eachother would be cool

[nocturne wolf]

theres only one magic weapon I want to see in DN

[tiny tiger]

Go on

[tacit crystal]

Neck summoner.

[paper marsh]

I'd love more utility based magic staves to weave together with melee combat

[prime plume]

seagull summoner