valheim-chat

[fossil delta]

We will ALL hopefully be getting 1.0 some time this year, but nothing official has been said yet.

Some of us have been playing this since 2021.

[fast bear]

I know thats what Im saying even like the devs saying we are getting close would put my mind at ease

Idk how you can play that long when theres next to nothing to do after you beat Fader

[fossil delta]

They have said we are getting closer. Its not like we don't know they are working on it.

It will be just like every prior biome, it will be ready when its ready.

Have faith, I assume you like the game. So just be patient.

[silk token]

i have to say after just yolo-ing into a charred fortress with basic berserker axes, evasion mantle is super nice just parry at will and not get anywhere close to stagger. idk if anyone else is sleeping on it but it's pretty great.

[clear hazel]

It's more plains biome

[abstract warren]

Kinda struggling to find trollfish on black forest shore

Should I sail a bit out or something?

[tacit crystal]

Trollfish should be quite common. Search from other shore.

[midnight goblet]

Hey chat! I got a question does anyone know if there's mods for valheim that makes the smithing/crafting more advanced? My friend wants to know and he loves advanced crafting systems

[abstract warren]

Ok

[tacit crystal]

There are probably, but people in https://discord.com/channels/391142601740517377/1202934289898151966 might give better info about them.

[midnight goblet]

Oh my bad I didn't realise that was a channel, ty!

[tacit crystal]

No worries.

[abstract warren]

I keep losing my catch ugh

Wtf

[silk token]

you can drop the bobber like literally against the boat and not have to reel at all. fishing skill is rough it takes lots of levels to reduce stamina. until then might want to eat as high stam food as u can

[abstract warren]

Oh right I didn't notice my stamina

[fossil delta]

I catch level 4 and 5 pike by either being on a boat, or a dock I build right at water level, so I can catch them with just my normal foods. IE HHS. Just have your bobber right there at your feet.

My skill level was at 8 and 11, respectively, when I caught those pikes.

[rancid sorrel]

Im new to Valheim is it normal that we dont get a patch in like 4 - 5 Months? I like Studios they have the Philosphy that i comes when its ready

[fossil delta]

They do release patches when they are ready, and needed.

[tacit crystal]

Valheim just got update last September and it had huge impact. Next will be the last biome and 1.0 update but there is no timeline.

[rancid sorrel]

Okay sounds great. What i see in my first 2 Hours make me love this game already 🙂

[fossil delta]

I think its pretty safe to say we are all here because we love the game to some degree.

[tacit crystal]

Oh you're on treat.
Word of advice: try not googling/searching solutions from internet as much as possible, there is ingame guide that has all info you will need.

First time is always unique and there are many players that would do anything to experience that again.

[rancid sorrel]

Okay i will put on my digital Blinders

[tacit crystal]

And most important advice: have fun.

[rancid sorrel]

Just a small question how compatible are the safes with newer update?

[tacit crystal]

Your world will generate the new content when you open the world first time after update has been implemented into the game.

And new content like different new POIs will generate in unexplored areas of your world.

[green reef]

I'm doing a no-portal run. Ashlands is up next. Trying to figure out what to bring in the boat to make a successful beachhead. I'm nervous.

I don't think bringing fully upgraded crafting tables is possible. I'm thinking tons of Stone, a Stone Cutter, Wood. Make a Bed in a stone tomb, then start laying down campfires in the area to reduce spawning near the base?

[silk token]

that's a tough call. depends how crazy you want to go. don't forget a shield generator.

you don't need stone or wood for walls the grausten will be flying every direction

i opt out of things involving food because there's so many dang inventory slots taken by 4 carrots, 2 thistles, etc. for the cauldron upgrades, and i just make stacks and stacks of food dont dont worry about cooking

but yeah definitely don' forget the 2 iron for stonecutter, and as much regular wood as you can fit once you have everything, regular wood is tough to come by and you'll suddenly not be able to do things real quick

[green reef]

I was thinking of pre-hunting some bone maw and coming back and cooking it before making landfall

[silk token]

meh, imean it's like what... 5 or 10 health difference at the most from mistlands food?

[green reef]

stacks to 50 though right?

[silk token]

oh lol

imean if you're making multiple trips ot hunt then cook then bring, that could be an entire boat load of food

[green reef]

I imagine repairing weapons will be my next limiting factor

[silk token]

probly save time just bringing food or making a 2nd trip instead of bringing barely better food

[silk token]

yeah definitely bring repair stations. you'll definitely forget SOMEthing and make a second trip. but for initial landing, shield generator just for base defense is good, you can fight near the end and have archer immunity

and just drop down some grausten walls, dont sleep on ashwood spikes, they're strong if you make a death funnel for mobs to try to get to you

[green reef]

stuff I haven't had to do on typical portal runs.

[silk token]

yaeh.. it's definitely one of the fun parts of no portal runs getting that foothold, have fun!

[split adder]

what do i do with my bread

[silk token]

OH! wisps and ydrasil wood! to mark your path through the ocean spires! partly to find your way in/out but also to not get lost, after the 3rd pointy snake its easy to get turned around

oh wait. you no map too? or just no portal?

[green reef]

well, map is turned off. but I looked up the seed

the queen made me give in

[silk token]

ok so getting lost still a thing lol

[silk token]

no judgment there. queen has made me turn the map on multiple times. one time i was like “OHWTF” it was so far,
and when i got there it was located so weird i never wouldve found it

[green reef]

I just didn't trust the vesigr after reading how dungeons could be rotated. it was true, but I'm not sure I would have found it without finding more to triangulate. so hard.

[silk token]

I think it was three separate continents of missed. I wandered through, so bear of dungeons. I didn’t even find a second marker. It was fun till it wasn’t fun and then I turned the map on.

I do enjoy putting wisp lanterns up on the tall rocks and seeing it around me and really exploring and taking the time, but it gets to the point of OK seriously where is it?

I did turn it off again for Ashlands, I love exploring by conquering the fortresses and using them to mark my way without killing the bell fragment holders inside, and then each one is a little mini base. It’s made perfectly for no map no portal enjoyers

[clear hazel]

I've been running around the plains biome at night a lot. Still yet to encounter a vile. Not sure I should encounter one yet.

[green reef]

even with portals we used them as mini-bases. If they put vesigrs in other good places in Mistlands I think it'd solve the problem.

[rancid sorrel]

Okay and what if when there are nw POIs in alreade explored areas?

[trail pelican]

IIRC they spawn where lox spawn points are, just at night--so, if i'm not wrong about that, best bet is running around the areas you've specifically seen lox at night

[split adder]

where might i find a yagluth vegviser

[green reef]

at henges

[trail pelican]

and not sure it matters/would affect, but cannot hurt to kill of the loxes too in case its like counting against some rul

[trail pelican]

STATISTICALLY speaking, about right after you find the location by seeing the 'stone fingers'

[fossil delta]

We found a Vegviser this time. Yags altar was very South of us at the time.

We found 6 or 7 likely Vegvisor locations prior to the one that actually had a Vegviser.

[green reef]

yeah, there was a post on reddit about the rarity of vesigrs in plains. but I'd still take plains challenges finding yag way over mistlands challenge of finding queen.

[fossil delta]

😄 This time we found a Dungeon, outside of mists, at the very first bit of Mistlands we came to. Guess what was inside? A Queen location. Easiest find ever!

[green reef]

they don't emit any light, they sit still, look like big boulder against the background

[silk token]

could be at a big stone henge lookin thing, but also at smaller ones. investigate all odd stone structures

[silk token]

might just be a super unlucky plains biome, if you dont see ANY thats weird and should do a different plains. they take a while to spawn again if youve already killed them in that area.

[fossil delta]

I finally found it at one of those small two stones with a slab over the top locations. Of course, the slab was on the ground, for whatever reason, but at least we finally found a Vegviser.

[silk token]

fhats where i found my last one after some large stonehenge duds. i was actually hunting viles and got completely lost in fog, then it cleared and was just sitting in front of me it was crazy. almost as wild as finding rocky

[fossil delta]

Yeah, we came across several stone hedges with beserkers, but nothing was there. Only one even had a chest.

None of these small ones even had fuling guards, and we came across 4 or 5 of them before the one with a Vegviser. I had grown used to them having those guards prior to this.

[clear hazel]

I've tried multiple plains biomes. Still nothing. Thinking about this, I probably don't have the right gear to fight them yet. I've mainly relied on frostner and I occasionally shift to the iron atgeir. I can make a black metal sword to fight them I suppose.

Or get a black metal atgeir.

Of course I use my draugr fang a lot.

[fossil delta]

The BM sword works, but they do take spirit damage. So Frostner isn't bad. The silver sword would probably be the most effective.

[clear hazel]

Frostner is just so good. Whenever I hit modt enemies, they generally act stunned due to the frost attack. And I can isolate a group of enemies with them.

[silk token]

thats really weird you haven’t seen ANY. are you sure you’re playing the right version of the game? You know what they look like? They’re like slightly smaller loxes with a spooky cloud around them. Kind of like Pigpen from Charlie Brown.

[clear hazel]

I am playing the latest version. I know that they're an undead bear.

[fossil delta]

I have gone many nights without seeing them.

[clear hazel]

They're rarer than fenrises at night in the mountains.

[fossil delta]

Then other nights I will run into two of them. Its RNG. Fickle.

[silk token]

I can’t say I’ve gone a whole night without seeing them in a new planes biome. After I kill them, it takes many days for them to spawn again, but first time in a planes they’re always there for me.

[silk token]

really?? i feel like i see them so much. maybe because theres better visibility in plains than mountains. you can see their spooky cloud so far away

[clear hazel]

I'm at the stage where I need lots of flax and iron to get new armour set.

[fossil delta]

I most reliably see them around my plains farm. Even two nights in a row. Its all just RNG. Like I said its fickle.

[silk token]

Well, the good news is you’ve now invoked the “complaining about it in the discord” buff and their spawn rate should be increased by at least 50%

[fossil delta]

True!

[silk token]

sometimes I literally just complain about a thing so that I’ll find it and then I find it lol

[fossil delta]

I had to complain 4 times here before finding the Yag Vegviser.

Maybe I wasn't crying hard enough?

[clear hazel]

I'm still yet to find it too. I've cleared 2 filing villages so far. I can clear many more but I'm generally methodical in my approach.

[fossil delta]

They are not in villages.

[silk token]

The thing about Yagluth 90% of the time I just find the creepy fingers because I love Viking style pillaging all around the plains so much

like give me my black metal battleaxe and an empty long ship with a few stacks of boat snacks and that’s when the real game begins

[clear hazel]

So it's the towers?

[silk token]

No, the Stone hinges or the small pieces of stone hinges

hEnges, phone.

[clear hazel]

I haven't seen as many of them. I'll keep exploring.

[silk token]

Anything that looks like stones stacked in any way, no matter how small always check

[split adder]

i wish trees were burnable so i could burn down the black forest

[clear hazel]

You can, by changing the settings to enable burning.

[split adder]

wait thats a thing

[clear hazel]

Just be careful with your camp fire in your wooden house.

[honest frigate]

will my house burn down

[clear hazel]

It's somewhere in advanced settings.

[silk token]

it won’t spread like a wildfire, but you can turn burning on, and it will burn trees and make charcoal

[silk token]

yes if your fire is too close to wood

[honest frigate]

oh shi yeah ts not turning on

[clear hazel]

It's like Minecraft in a way

[silk token]

Lol, but it’s slow and you can just deconstruct the pieces that catch on fire. It’s easier to deal with than a Minecraft house catching fire. If that’s a comparison that’s useful to you.

[honest frigate]

yeah good reference

[clear hazel]

I haven't tried the enable burning settings myself yet.

[honest frigate]

if anything bro i want to enable teleporting with metal setting

[silk token]

I love it. It’s also handy if you forget to bring coal where you’re going

[honest frigate]

but i dont wanna be a cheater

[clear hazel]

I believe there are mods for that

[honest frigate]

theres a base setting for it you dont need a mod

[silk token]

imo teleporting with metal means less boat rides, and less serpents and less finding traders

[clear hazel]

I stand corrected.

[honest frigate]

gotta love the boat rides

do serpents spawn anywhere in the ocean just rare?

[clear hazel]

It does make the game a whole lot easier. With it enabled, the game basically encourages you to set up a new base in a new biome after you defeat each boss.

[silk token]

They only spawn during storms and at night

[honest frigate]

no for real that was my plan cuz sailing all the way back is crazy

[clear hazel]

More common than viles that's for sure

[honest frigate]

i've only defeated the elder as of right now though

[honest frigate]

oh got you ty

[silk token]

Is this your first play through?

[clear hazel]

Nice. You'll enjoy the swamps. ☺️

[split adder]

the swamps

the point when iron demands start to exist

theres no going back from this point

[clear hazel]

Yep I just realised that I need to go back to iron mining in the swamps for the next armour set.

Oh and be careful going into the small dead end canals in the crypts. You can get stuck.

[split adder]

if i put a portal down in the plains without protection, is it likely to break

[silk token]

it’s possible, but I’ve dropped them plenty of times just bare before raiding a village and I can’t remember the last time one got destroyed

[green reef]

pretty unlikely imo. put it on a boulder or behind a boulder. work bench or campfire nearby will reduce spawning too. if you are fighting on top of it with something like a Lox then reasonable chance it could break. or you run through it to avoid a lox stampede they might destroy it before they enter digital suspension

[hard sluice]

i think i only had 1 portal getting destroyed in all my game time, and it was in ashland, by a creature that swung at me as i was getting in.

As far as i know, when you aren't around that portal, the world isn't loaded, theres nothing to attack them

I wish portals were more expensive somehow. like consuming mats each time its used.

[tacit crystal]

Little late answer, but already explored areas stay unchanged if world generates new content in.

[fossil delta]

Sorry, I got a time out for accidently spelling a very common German word. No, you find them at the stone rings, or the small stone formations with two walls and a slab over the top. The rings often have beserkers in them.

[lone rampart]

Robert you naughty boy 🤣

[fossil delta]

Definitely an idea I will not support. I used to get my portals somewhat frequently destroyed, but I got a lot smarter about where and how I place them, so its a rather rare occurrence for me now.

[steel mica]

Why are the baby asksvins considered as a heavy mob but the fully grown asksvins are not 😭

[fossil delta]

I don't even get why they ban it. I guess because its not English?

[steel mica]

I drain more stamina with the baby than the fully grown

[fossil delta]

Huh, I haven't played with them enough to even find that out.

[lone rampart]

Probably. I got smacked into time-out for saying something in Latin...when the conversation was purely about Latin! And Smiffe started it! 🤣

[fossil delta]

Its always Smiffe. Such a trouble maker!

[steel mica]

They are considered a "heavy mob" at least thats what I consider them

[lone rampart]

Indeed!

[steel mica]

Because they drain more stamina than when I pull a fully grown asksvin

[fossil delta]

Yeah, I unnderstood that. I just need to play around more in Ashlands to learn all these smaller details. Just, I hate Ashlands. So even though I beat Fader, etc... I don't want to be there.

[steel mica]

Context: im relocating my asksvins in a better cage

[fossil delta]

I put the ones I do have in nice, deep, raised earth cages. but I never even got eggs out of them before I stopped playing.

[split adder]

when i reach the mistlands will i be mistaken by believing the deathsquito is the single worst mob in the game

[hard sluice]

i dont tame askvins.. i dont like that part of the game... they are too powerful, and they provide the best food ingredient in the game too easily

[fossil delta]

Most annoying. We now have numerous counters against them, even bug spray. I mean, a mead.

[fossil delta]

I fully endorse making the game harder when you want to. I don't tame Lox anymore because I prefer hunting them.

[steel mica]

Thats why they are considered kinda of a reward for taking your time

[hard sluice]

thats part of the reason i dont tame : taming is boring, while hunting is super fun.

[fossil delta]

I find no reason to tame when solo or just playing with my wife. Hunting provides more than we need.

[hard sluice]

But its pretty much GG once they are tamed.
If i join a server and we have askvins, i consider it 'finished'.

[fossil delta]

Servers with a lot of players is when I do bow to the need for taming.

Even those factory farms for breeding.

[steel mica]

More players = more demand for resource

Trying to keep everyone equipped

[fossil delta]

Yep, and not everyone can put in the same amount of time, either.

[steel mica]

Pair that up with a protection shield and you pretty much have an aarmy to defend you

[hard sluice]

yeah its really powerful. i think the game is better if its avoided

[steel mica]

To be fair alot of players struggle in the ashlands

Due to the density of mobs

[honest frigate]

nah second but furthest i made it the first time was swamp/plains/elder

[steel mica]

elder?

blackforest

[honest frigate]

yeah i love the swamp leeches are my faborite

[honest frigate]

the boss

[fossil delta]

Which is only a part of why I hate Ashalnds. I mostly hate it because of how ugly the biome is. Even with the mob density, I only died 3 times last time, and 2 of those were versus Fader and his OP ground attack power. So I don't dislike it because I am not capable, and I do not use parry or dodge roll either. Only blocking.

[lone rampart]

Oof...hard to block fire erupting from the ground

[hard sluice]

i died more trying to get Faders trophy in a lava lake than from the boss itself 😛
But i also leaned into the magic system for that boss.... its a lot easier than melee
I never killed it on normal... only hard

[fossil delta]

Yeah, well you have to jump out the way of that, and I missed a couple of times. 😄

I'll get better. At least its still within the realm of possibility of doing a Zero Death run all the way through Ashlands. At least for me.

[steel mica]

yes I am aware but I believe you meant blackforest as in the biome

[fossil delta]

My first time in Ashlands I kept having those lava bombs toss me way out into the lava fields, and I did not know about those bombs yet. Came close to rage quitting for the first time in years.

[hard sluice]

i'm pretty sure that my 1st time in ashland(which was on hard mode), i landed in an area where the spawn was broken. i kept facing twice the amount of mobs i normally encounter down there.

[lone rampart]

Yesterday was my first attempt at Ashlands with my non-magic character. It went poorly.

[fossil delta]

IT takes practice, whichever way you go about it.

[hard sluice]

i had to take a break, i joined online servers and learned some tricks

[fossil delta]

I just asked for a couple of pointers here. I think mainly about the Morgen, or however its spelled. Now its easy to beat.

[lone rampart]

The morgen was a chore. Lots of backing away while shooting it with arrows

[hard sluice]

for morgens, if i can't parry it, i'll dodge to its flanks, throw 2-3 hits. and repeat.
as long as i watch my stamina, i dont die.. most of the time.

[lone rampart]

But I used it to help harvest grausten & ashwood

[fossil delta]

Since I just use Tower Shields, I only need to block then beat the crap out of it, repeat until defeated. Then again, thats pretty much how it all works.

[steel mica]

fallen valk trophy

Win!

[hard sluice]

theres so much grausten in ashlands, it cause performance issues for my humble pc.
i took the habit of picking it up and placing piles of 50 instead

[fossil delta]

My PC is anything but humble, and I still do that.

I just can't stand all the sparkles. 😄

[lone rampart]

Every morning I make a lap beyond the walls, picking up the resin & neck tails specifically to get rid of the sparkles.

[fossil delta]

Thats one thing I have been very happy with, with our current Draugr Village base. Very little sparkles in the morning. I have to wait days to get annoyed by it.

[steel mica]

My brother's laptop is quite strong and yet it still lags in the ashlands because of the grausten

[formal torrent]

Hi Robert 😁

[fossil delta]

I doubt is just the grausten. I imagine the atmosphere effects have a lot to do with it.

My FPS drops a lot just entering the Ashlands.

[steel mica]

Hmm the heatwaves

[fossil delta]

Plus a lot of particles.

[supple bear]

Bearheim

[dark coyote]

birbhime 🐥

[lone rampart]

beesheim

[fossil delta]

Heh, especially now that we have 36 hives.

[lone rampart]

I keep telling myself I want to redo the apiary but I don't want to replant all those flowers

[fossil delta]

We put ours on top of our buildings. Helps make our run and jump skills go up faster.

[lone rampart]

Next map, I want the roads in the village to be lined with flowers, and beehives just behind

[fossil delta]

Ah, so you do full fledged villages. I've only done that on servers with more people. My wife and I are very minimalist.

I wish our puppy would stop trying to learn to type, and stay off my keyboard! 😄 😄

[formal torrent]

Have you looked into modding at all? There are some very basic mods that don't ruin the vanilla feel that would help with that

[fossil delta]

Yes, puppy, not a cat.

[hard sluice]

i can't help but to put myself in the rp mindset when playing, and i feel like making too much of a cozy home in that world makes little sense. Its a world that we want to escape, not live in. at least, thats how i see the lore.

[lone rampart]

Yes, I have mods already. I can't go back to a world without PlantEverything 🤣

[formal torrent]

I think theres one called easyplant that would be right up your alley

[sleek sky]

Marsarah tweaks peak

[fossil delta]

We are all 3 of us on the modding Discord, after all.

[lone rampart]

I see it as "if I'm stuck here for an unknown length of time, I'm making it as comfy as possible!"

[formal torrent]

Makes it super easy to plant stuff

[lone rampart]

I think I have that one too. PlantEasily?

[sleek sky]

People who play without it are registered professional cringelords

[hard sluice]

you are stuck in there for as long as the forsakens are alive.
Its a forsaken world, and Valhalla is waiting.

[formal torrent]

Yes that one

[sleek sky]

Also get plant everything

[fossil delta]

Now 4 of us.

[sleek sky]

Crazy that plant everything isn’t just how the base game is

[lone rampart]

yup yup, got 'em both. I also highly recommend ValheimCuisine but this might be a better subject for #mods-discussion

[sleek sky]

VC is peak

It ain’t your typical food mod

It adds a dungeon cuz reasons

[lone rampart]

It's so good, but next village is also going to need a dedicated Meadery

So manny brewing options!

[formal torrent]

Gotta get those elusive ingredients

[hard sluice]

my issue with all those qol mods is that they make the game easier.
part of the chalenge of this game is to keep the food flowing in order to do the content.

[sleek sky]

The dungeon can have a ||bog witch vesigir||

[lone rampart]

And I can appreciate that. But if I want some blueberry bushes under the window of my bakery, I don't see that as making the game "easier"

[hard sluice]

Well... it gives you blueberries in a place you shoudlnt have..

[dark coyote]

less walk for blewbs

[lone rampart]

I'm in Ashlands I haven't used blueberries in ages 🤣

[hard sluice]

im not saying its a big deal, that nobody should be using them. im just sharing my perspective on it

[sleek sky]

It’s really cool I have to travel across the world to pick up a couple berrries for meads

They could make it only plantable in the biome idrc

Just make plantable, if inconvienent

[lone rampart]

Either way is a perfectly fine way to play

[formal torrent]

Can't wait for more new players to get the game. I've been looking for someone new to help out and do a long term run with for like a week now but can't find anyone 🙃

[sleek sky]

It’s not my fault you take a nap and sleep when I’m ready

[hard sluice]

that great viking warrior, dying an honorable warriors death on the battlefield, being picked by Odin himself as a champion to retake a forsaken world... is now chilling in his meadow property, admiring those blueberry bushes at the window : P
(just teasing you. its all good : P )

[formal torrent]

No no my run with you is different

You're experienced already and we're using mods and such

[sleek sky]

I mean could make them only plantable in bf ig

[lone rampart]

hey hey hey! ...those are HONORABLE WARRIOR blueberries! 🤣

[sleek sky]

So you have a blueberry tp base like how we have plains barely base tp

[steel mica]

In the end both playstyles are perfect, others just prefer the challenge, others prefer the easier route

Or an entirely new game all together

[sleek sky]

Maybe make more world options?

[lone rampart]

I am very much a casual gamer. I play with a friend that's even moreso. We like the slow and steady, non-stressful experience.

[sleek sky]

Like a plant everything world option or more or whatever

[lone rampart]

Relatively non-stressful*

[sleek sky]

All starred enemies world option 😏

[formal torrent]

😨

[steel mica]

I do have this idea to be able to adjust the biome sizes and how far they could spawn in the world

[dark coyote]

4* enemies

numchuck torches

[sleek sky]

Blue doesn’t know that sls has 20 star enemies

[sleek sky]

Riverheim world generate option when?

[steel mica]

Now thats equal footing

[supple bear]

Deep north is going to be a permanent blizzard that spams you with polar bears

[sleek sky]

Raining icebergs

Just get circles on the ground that kill you with ice if you stand in them

[supple bear]

At least cultist heads will be easier to get

[hard sluice]

i know i like the chalenge a bit too much. when i play online with friends, i often drag them in deeper water than they want, and half the time, it doesnt end very well..

[sleek sky]

Now hears a question, would more serpents make the game harder or easier

[supple bear]

Doesnt playing with people remove all challenge though?

[formal torrent]

Speaking of spam I started a new solo run yesterday and today ran into LITERALLY 30 GREYDWARFS the moment I entered the black forest

[hard sluice]

It does depend with who.
It sure can
(I'm back to playing solo, for that reason)

[supple bear]

Similar to using summons in dark souls

Being able to split aggro is OP

[supple bear]

Get used to it. Thats how the devs create "difficulty"

Literally every biome spams you, some are worse than others

Black forest and Ashlands are the most extreme

[formal torrent]

That was my first time running into that many of anything

[supple bear]

You were probably mining right

or cutting trees

[formal torrent]

Nope. Just exploring

[supple bear]

That pulls everything in render range

[formal torrent]

Saw some ruins and walked up to them and frigging 10 of them walked around the corner

Then I shit you not, another 15-20 came from further in the forest

[supple bear]

Similar to ashlands if you kill the spawners you get way less spam

I dont spend that much time in the black forest though to be honest with you

[hard sluice]

idk if its bad manner to post a wiki page here, but its good to know how noise works in this game
https://valheim.fandom.com/wiki/Creature_senses

[supple bear]

I speedrun the first 4 biomes

[sleek sky]

Just wait till you make the mistake of downloading the mod that “rebalances” early game enemies by making 0 star greydwarf shamans have 100 hp and they spawn in meadows

[supple bear]

Once you master the combat in this game every enemy is a joke anyway, probably why they feel the need to swarm you

Greydwarves have the same attack animation and speed as like 10 other enemies

[steel mica]

I ignore the spawn so that I can farm greydwarf eyes

[hard sluice]

i think there are so late game enemies that are pretty tough.... but i never went to ashland on normal mode, so maybe they arent that bad

[supple bear]

You only need one spawner for a farm though

The toughest enemies in the games are the dverger

and they only attack you if you make them mad

[formal torrent]

What are the eyes even for?

[steel mica]

They arent too bad if you are confident with parrying and dodge rolling

[merry pebble]

Portals and eyescream

[formal torrent]

😭

[steel mica]

The real threat are the persistants and mobs density

[hard sluice]

on hard, the starred charred warriors can pretty much 1 shot kill you, even when blocking..

[supple bear]

To be fair if you get hit by a charred warrior you kind of deserve it

[steel mica]

On normal you cant block a 2** warrior

[supple bear]

they RP walk at you

[hard sluice]

right, that mob with the most complex attack pattern. its so easy to avoid.

[supple bear]

Complex attack pattern?

Because he has one delay attack? lol

[hard sluice]

more than any other mobs in this game, yes

[sleek sky]

Loxes are the bane of my existence when it comes to parrying

[supple bear]

I will admit it threw me off the first the time

Like 3/4ths of the enemies in elden ring have delay atatcks though so maybe im just used to it

Twitcher are the real evil

They are like programmed to body block you

Its honestly impressive they were able to program twitchers to do that but couldnt program dvergers to avoid lava

[hard sluice]

my main issue used to be the fallen valks, but i was trying to fight them at melee range.
now i just use a bow, its easy.

[supple bear]

Magic pretty much invalidates ashlands

especially once you get the root staff

[hard sluice]

those dvergrs walking into lava... i really dislike it.

the root staff is OP, no doubt about it.

[sleek sky]

Ember staff in ashlands 😏

[supple bear]

Ember staff is great at ranging spawners

wont even draw aggro

[fossil delta]

Is it just me, or can we only find dandelions in fuling villages in the plains? I have yet to find them outside of a village.

[hard sluice]

normally, by the time im in ashlands, my bow skill is high and i use it to destroy the spawners

[supple bear]

dandelions grow in the meadows?

also brutes drop them

The crossbow is also goated for ashlands and you dont even really need skill levels

[steel mica]

I swear to god these warriors have skill issue 💀

[hard sluice]

i think the crossbow is great, but with higher skill, the bow is best.

[supple bear]

arbalest is a cheap craft and carapace bolts are basically free

[hard sluice]

in part because there is no elemental damage bolts.

[fossil delta]

Yeah, I know. Just you can also find them in fuling villages, but apparently no where else in the plains.

[sleek sky]

The real strat is to not break the spammers for difficulty

[supple bear]

I hate ashlands

I campfire spam it and speedrun from fort to fort

[hard sluice]

on my 1st ashland landing, which was on hard. i landed next to a spawner, a 1 star askven and a 2 stars charred warrior....
it was the most intense time i had in this game
I didnt even know what that spawner was, i didnt destroy it right away

[supple bear]

I spend less time in the ashlands than I do any other biome in the game, and I pretty much skip the first 3

I beat ashlands before they nerfed the spawn rates lol

[rare lichen]

Why skip the first 3 out of curiosity?

[supple bear]

It was pretty much impossible to leave the beach. I remember fighting for over 2 hours

[hard sluice]

when was it nerfed?

[supple bear]

during the PTR

Same thing happened to mistlands

mistlands was more extreme though, that biome is basically dead now unless you're inside a dungeon or near one

[supple bear]

I kill the bosses just skip the "progression" of building weapons/armors ect

[hard sluice]

i stopped playing my normal mode game because i was getting through mistlands and only died once.. i was worried that i would walk through ashlands also

[supple bear]

Troll armor is good enough until the plains

[rare lichen]

Ah gotcha so you like to go to the part of the game that has more combat?

[steel mica]

• root harnesk

[supple bear]

Root harnesk is good for mistlands too

but i just make padded armor

[supple bear]

I have like 100 playthroughs over the last 5 years lol

with my playstyle theres almost nothing of value in the meadows black forest or swamp, other than iron

Which i already know the exact amount i need

for the entire game lol

[rare lichen]

Many people have 100 playthroughs and do the first 3 biomes mostly every time 😉

[supple bear]

Most experience players get to the plains very quickly

[rare lichen]

People enjoy different things right?

[supple bear]

With all the tech skipping in this game you dont really need to spend that much time in earlier biomes

[rotund parrot]

Seem to be a trend amongst many players, doing the early game, bronze mining very inefficiently and then giving on the playthrough as you start to need to explore

[supple bear]

Bronze mining would kill anyones soul

That bronze grind is the worse in the game for some reason

[hard sluice]

it is quite a grind

[supple bear]

Which is why i skip it

i get enough for benches and upgrades and move on

[hard sluice]

i grab enough bronze for an axe, a karve, and often a buckler (round shield works fine)
and forge, obviously

[rotund parrot]

If done inefficiently, like trying to mine copper under the ground, but it doesn't seem to be where people stop, they seem to enjoy that part and quit after

[supple bear]

forge, cooking pot, mead pot, fermenter, upgrades

you need some copper/bronze for later on random things

but those biomes drop bars

[steel mica]

ITS STILL IMPOSSIBLE TO BLOCK A 2** WARRIOR EVEN WITH BONEMASS AND EHH DIET

[supple bear]

I still cant believe they removed the stamina cost from parries

[merry pebble]

Iirc bonemass doesent play a role for blocking stuff

[supple bear]

Imagine buffing the best way to play the game

The protection staff boosts your block/parry

[steel mica]

You can parry any attack no matter what

[supple bear]

it costs hp from teh shield though which is why its generally bad for melee users to use the protectoin staff

[steel mica]

condition you are

[merry pebble]

Protection staff will allow you to parry basically anything at least once

[supple bear]

Youll just have to recast it every 5 seconds lol

or just use it for enemies you cant normally parry

[steel mica]

Which is why I like to go heavy + magic build

[rare lichen]

If you could pick 1 biome, which biome do you think is most worth making and upgrading all the armor and weapons?

[supple bear]

I mean obviously the answer is going to be whatever the last biome is

[steel mica]

Mistlands

[supple bear]

The power creep in this game is insane

[rotund parrot]

When playing coop I keep having to remind mages that the bubble is just for them, I do not need it with melee as I need to parry attacks but they still keep giving me the bubble that doesn't last 10 seconds

[supple bear]

I mean if the mage is casting it anyway, its free

[rare lichen]

Ive found that when I have the most powerful things I dont have interest in getting more poerful things xD
So its almost like... best to want but never get it jajaja
But I suppose people like chasing numbers too 😉

[rare lichen]

What about Mistlands weapons and armor do you like?

[steel mica]

Staff of embers no doubt

Its a strong aoe debuff weapon

[rare lichen]

So powerful! I used that thing Mistlands / Ashlands lol
Constantly xD xD
I really enjoy the "arc" when you shoot it high up in the air

[supple bear]

Imagine having to choose between range and AOE like a filthy non mage user

[steel mica]

IM A HEAVY + MAGIC MAIN

[hard sluice]

i agree with the surprising buff to the best combat mechanic, parrying. I can't be mad because thats 90% of how i do combat in this game, but i cant understand why it was done

[supple bear]

That means you do neither well

[rare lichen]

Whats wrong with doing something badly?

[supple bear]

Gear wise you pretty much have to choose between being a mage or a warrior/archer

[steel mica]

Originally I mained 2h swords because secondary hits are so juicy

But in ashlands my style change from a high damage to a hybrid

[supple bear]

I mean the thing is

Mages are already the tankiest build in the game

They have effectively infinite hp

[steel mica]

True the protection bubble is very strong

[rotund parrot]

If you want high damage, the way to go is high health so you can parry any attack and then follow that up with attacks dealing twice the damage

[supple bear]

You can parry with a staff too

as already mentioned the bubble effectively lets you parry anything once

[rotund parrot]

So does the buckler

[steel mica]

Get out of jail free card but for mobs

[hard sluice]

to me, the issue is simply that melee combat is a lot of fun, while mage combat is a bit boring.

[supple bear]

I would argue the exact opposite

[steel mica]

Kind of

[supple bear]

A mage has to run around and manage 3 resources. A melee just walks up to an enemie, parries, and kills them during the stun

[rotund parrot]

Except the buckler doesn't have a 1 time use but infinite use without having to reserve 50 eitr to be able to cast again in a situation where you can get 1 hit

[hard sluice]

i go from intense fights with my life on the line, to spamming fireballs from a distance...

[supple bear]

Mages entire stamina bar is used for defense

[rare lichen]

Ive tried to balance players to use more melee over ranged and magic on public servers and its genuinely hard. From what I can tell the main bottleneck for melee is often the movement speed cost + how starred mobs influence blocking

[supple bear]

Range is always going to be king, especially when 95% of enemies cant deal with it

prior to magic bows were the king

magic is just bows that do aoe damage lol

[hard sluice]

i'm not arguing that magic is a lot more powerful than melee

[rare lichen]

100 bows skill is pretty loco lol
Machine gun

[supple bear]

imagine dying and losing an hour and half of grinding

[steel mica]

Crossbows are just snipers

[supple bear]

the only skill i ever power level is blood magic

[steel mica]

The sneak bonus dmg is juicy

[supple bear]

and only to like level 30

[rare lichen]

I just die a lot and my skills never pass 30 🤣

[supple bear]

I don't even die that much and i still dont bother with skills lol

By the time my playthroughs end my highest skill is like run at 60

[merry pebble]

Used to be much more of a machine gun long time ago 😄

[gray sand]

Unless you're playing on higher difficulties, everything can be parried (even stars) other than Lord Reto.

[steel mica]

Ever since I played valheim I was never really into range until I came across the arbalest

[rare lichen]

Yeah 🙂 Id say melee is quite balanced on normal. Its a different story on hard / vhard

[supple bear]

To be fair I use melee for most of the game

[gray sand]

Factual and true.

[supple bear]

largely because magic isn't avalaible 😛

[gray sand]

Magic is just OP AF plz nerf.

[supple bear]

maces carry you to the mountains

[rare lichen]

There really is something about being a viking with a weapon and a shield xD

[gray sand]

Spears*

[rare lichen]

I always end up fenring knife though lol

[supple bear]

spear wont do anything to bonemass

even an unupgraded mace with no skill kills bonemass in like 5 minutes

[steel mica]

Add a greatsword in plains and I will be a happy man

[gray sand]

Wow, ONE enemy. Whole game ruined...

[steel mica]

[supple bear]

Bonemass is more than just ONe enemy

[merry pebble]

It will do around x0,25 its normal dmg 😉

[supple bear]

hes THE enemy XD

[gray sand]

Bonemass is exactly 1 enemy. And he's a zero-damage fight.

[supple bear]

a lot of the early game stuff is weak to blunt

[merry pebble]

skeletons, blobs... thats a lot?

[rotund parrot]

I smell a frostner enjoyer

[supple bear]

Yeah

[hard sluice]

i use spears and clubs. i switch for the skoll and hati in mistlands, unless playing on hard mode.

[gray sand]

Frostner 🤢

[hard sluice]

frostner is great, especially if you want to melee in ashlands, on hard mode

[supple bear]

Skeletons are really common in the black forest and swamp

[steel mica]

to be fair blunt + spirit + frost is nice and a rare one, most weapons just do one dmg type

[supple bear]

The problem with frostner is needing ymir flesh

[steel mica]

but 3 on 1 weapon damn

[hard sluice]

it also has a decent knockback. it makes it difficult to chain hits, but its great for crowd control

[rotund parrot]

Problem with maces as a general rule IMO is the knockback

[merry pebble]

I am not saying blunt is not a good dmg type, just that your definition of "lot" is quite... Interesting...

[supple bear]

It is one of the few weapons that scales well into later biomes

[gray sand]

The knockback is far, far more than "decent" - and why I hate the weapon.

My weapon shouldn't prevent me from killing my enemies.

[supple bear]

As I said skeletons are pretty common enemies in both the black forest and the swamp.

So yeah a lot of the enemies you run into early game are weak to blunt

[steel mica]

Would primal slayer greatsword be good? 🤔

I have a ton of jade and bloodstone

[supple bear]

its also about resists

[hard sluice]

i thought it was a well known fact that blunt is the most useful weapon classe across the biomes.

[supple bear]

what even resists blunt damage early game

do bears?

[hard sluice]

yeah, blunt is bad vs bears. you need slashing.

[supple bear]

So prior to bears nothing? lol

[tacit crystal]

And trolls resist blunt.

[merry pebble]

Troll, ghost, bear, abom, wraith

[rotund parrot]

If I can take out a blob or a skeleton in 3 hits with an abyssal razor costing less stamina and killing it faster than a club would, does blunt weakness really matter?

[supple bear]

So all the rare enemies basically

[hard sluice]

if i had to pick 1 type, it would be blunt. but its not ideal in all situation. the spear complements it well, i think.

[supple bear]

trolls more common than the others

[steel mica]

Am I the only crossbow enjoyer here?

[supple bear]

I enjoy it, its just hard to use against large groups

[hard sluice]

i think we all love the crossbow when we finally get to it : P
I think its better to stick to the bow, but that doesnt mean the crossbow is bad.

[supple bear]

The crossbow is one of the easier weapons to speedrun

you can do it without killing a single boss

[tacit crystal]

I like crossbow spear combo. Crossbow for initiative against flying enemy, spear throwing when target is closer.

[hard sluice]

ikr. theres always one in those online servers to rush for the crossbow :/

[steel mica]

I rushed it with swamp progression lol

[supple bear]

You need a black forge to build it

thats the only reason you gotta go to mistland

[hard sluice]

it can be difficult to get early game, but its often just a matter of time. you can sail around mistland, find a mine. place a bed and keep trying until you get those cores.

[supple bear]

I like the crossbow its just really slow to deal with large groups

[merry pebble]

But actually enemies that benefit way more from using proper gear, difference for blobs and skeletons between blunt and other dmg types is usually 1-2 hits.
(Also, only 4 enemies from early game are weak to blunt, not counting bosses, and that is skeleton, rancid remains, blob and oozer, of which you will only find 3 regularly)

[hard sluice]

you can even rush those putrid holes and get stone teleporters early, if you really want them...

[supple bear]

Ok i surrender

Mace bad

[hard sluice]

mace awesome.

[merry pebble]

Nobody said that mind you 😉 other than you

[rotund parrot]

I implied it

[rare lichen]

Abyssal Razor is just awesome xD
Looks cool
Awesome unique way to get it
Strong in early game

Honestly I love trying to do things with a Chitin Knife, a Finewood bow, and a set of troll leather, that are not meant to be done in such attire xD

Theres something about it maybe the nostalgia jajaja

[shy marlin]

[tacit crystal]

[supple bear]

I still stand by what i said, the mace early game is good against most common enemies becaue they either dont resist it at all or are weak to it

[shy marlin]

yooo are you familiar with the battleaxe sealed tower tech

[supple bear]

Most of the enemies that resist blunt are rarer spawns

[lone rampart]

🌿

[hard sluice]

i think the club* (is it the name of that weapon, the 1st mace) is very good once its upgraded. i often kill bonemass with it

[tacit crystal]

I'm aware battleaxe hitbox can hit targets through walls.

[shy marlin]

There's more 🧀

[supple bear]

Is the bonemass cheese with the hammer still a thing lol

thats old school AF

[hard sluice]

i dont like cheesing the game, so idk.

[rotund parrot]

Using cheese to rush getting chicken sounds legit

[supple bear]

You used to be able to get inside of one of those indestructable trees and just kill him to death with 2h hammer AOE

[tacit crystal]

Go on. 👀

[lone rampart]

Moldy cheese, my beloved! (Joel I was trying to figure out why that reaction was familiar for far too long)

[steel mica]

AAAAAa

;walhdyuawbdwaudbawdwa

2** BOI SIGHTED

HAHAHAH

[hard sluice]

i have this weird mindset about 'half cheating'... i think if you are going to partially cheat at a game, you might as well go all in. because it will ruin the experience anyway.

[steel mica]

2** ASKSVIN SIGHTED

[supple bear]

It kind of just depends on what you consider cheating?

[lone rampart]

STAB IT

[hard sluice]

hitting enemies throught a wall is cheating, to me.

[supple bear]

For example is world hopping ores "cheating"?

[steel mica]

THIS OTHER ASKSVIN CMON

[hard sluice]

of course it is

[steel mica]

GO AWAY

[supple bear]

I mean why not just spawn in iron at that point right

But its an intended mechanic of the game

[hard sluice]

you think its intended?

[supple bear]

I know its intended

[hard sluice]

how does it fit in with the lore?

[supple bear]

It's been in the game since day 1

Its so you can join your friends with your character

[hard sluice]

if someone was to do this in my server, i would kick him out.
Its cheating.

[tacit crystal]

I tend not to cheese with the battleaxe tho.

[supple bear]

See, everyones definition of cheating is different

[steel mica]

This gets my heart rising almost like the first time lmao

[rare lichen]

All depends on who holds the banhammer really xD

[hard sluice]

again, you guys can enjoy the game as you want. i just dont see the point of doing those exploits. you dont get the accomplishment, and it takes more time than just spawning it with console.

[supple bear]

Its not an exploit

[rotund parrot]

I will keep smashing doors and halfway mined through scrap piles with my stagbreaker on very hard, it's mostly for information about how many mobs are in the following room and ensure I do not lose all progress

[tacit crystal]

Dev commands are not intented gameplay tho.

[supple bear]

It's also not even really necessary anymore, this is what people used to do back before you could just go into settings and turn on ores through portals

[hard sluice]

I would not bother arguing with someone who thinks this is not cheating.
Its clearly not a regular game mechanic. theres no in game lore than can explain that.

[rare lichen]

Arguing with most people isnt worth it 😉

[supple bear]

World hopping is not cheating lol

It's an intended game mechanic lol

[hard sluice]

sure

[merry pebble]

Just turn on world modifiers if you want to transport stuff, its way easier

[supple bear]

Yes you can do that now

You do understand I'm not personally doing this right?

I'm presenting an argument of something people consider ":cheating" but isn't

[merry pebble]

You do seem to believe you are doing that, yes.

[supple bear]

This is also pretty old school and unneccessary since you can just alter world settings now

[hard sluice]

why do anyone bother with carrying ore on a ship if its a valid, legal method to cheese the game into spawning you back at your base..?
because its not part of the regular gameplay loop. its an exploit.

anyway. i made my point. we dont need to agree

[rare lichen]

Unfortunately a lot of people play games by exploiting them

I think thats his point, its relative

[supple bear]

Spawning things in with the dev console is cheating

We can both agree on that

Using intended game mechanics is not cheating, even if you disagree with them

[rotund parrot]

I wouldn't say there's regular gameplay, instead many different options for people to play the game the way they enjoy and to make parts of the game easier or harder

[supple bear]

As for putting things on boats? You still waste your time doing that?

You don't even need to exploit to avoid ever having to transport on boats

Just play the game the way Dvoid wants you to

[rare lichen]

Lets say computer crashes... causing your character to go to its previous state, wiping your progress...
Is it cheating to spawn the items you lost?

[supple bear]

Yes but in that case who cares

Thats a justified cheat right there

[rotund parrot]

You would never lose more than the 3 hours or so max from the last backup save

[supple bear]

You can do a lot in 3 hours

[rotund parrot]

Speak for yourself!

[supple bear]

The world record speedrun is 6

fixed seed

[steel mica]

NOOOOOOOOOOOO THE FALLEN VALKYRIE KILLED IT

DAMN IT THESE VALKYRIES

[supple bear]

Bird is the word

[rare lichen]

Yeaaa.... once I messed things up and players carts got deleted...
You havent seen true fury until youve dealt with a player who just watched 3 hours of resource gathering get wiped out of existence right in front of them

[steel mica]

God damn this valk

[chrome badge]

Make a lil grausten taming hut, that happened to me too.

[supple bear]

Sounds like you're a server admin correcting a mistake

IDK how that's cheating lol

[chrome badge]

It's cheating because your character will be permanently marked with the "Cheater!" tag if you use commands.

🤭

[supple bear]

Wait what

[chrome badge]

At the top of /stats, it will say Cheater! if you've cheated.

[supple bear]

Wait wasnt it this game where enabling dev commands used to be imacheater

[steel mica]

I had a pit but I had to deal with the valk

[hard sluice]

they want to add that tag to players who will use devcommands, from what i read.

[rare lichen]

I just respawned the stuff but the guy was genuinely hurt by the experience because he thought it was gone forever
Ive learned that what players think matters more than reality jajaja

[merry pebble]

Already in game 🙂

[supple bear]

I had no idea this was a thing but then again i play solo

[supple bear]

If you play valheim the intended way this game is grindy AF, i would be sad too

This is like the most grindy survival game on the market

[steel mica]

I was so prepared as well the valk just spawned in at the wrong area at the wrong time

[supple bear]

Until you just out skill gear and can skip the grind

[chrome badge]

I tried spawning a bush in once and noticed I had been branded for life, so I started again to remove the blemish. 😅

[rare lichen]

I like things on 3x world modifier 🙂
But then it makes inventory a bit intense jajaja

At least for servers with multiple players the 3x is nice

[supple bear]

I tried playing online once but was banned in like 3 hours

I rushed the mountains with stag breaker

[hard sluice]

i do wish that method would not work.
its difficult to avoid using it, very tempting.

[chrome badge]

But.. you'll farm faster with multiple people, that sounds like a storage nightmare.

[supple bear]

fun fact trolls can break silver

good luck getting one up there though

[hard sluice]

yeah but dragging a troll up a silver veins is a ton of work compared to using the stagbreaker

[supple bear]

stag breaker is just to find it

[rare lichen]

Personally I enjoy alternative methods, provided they are harder than the intended method

[supple bear]

you still need an iron pick

[rare lichen]

Using a chair to enter a crypt feels like cheating to me
But getting a Krom early by going to Mistlands early doesn't

[supple bear]

you can use a log troll to hunt scrap piles or kill oozers

[steel mica]

Out of pit of rage I will spawnkill every single valk I see

[split adder]

its not early if its technically possible

[supple bear]

or........ use the ole trusty chair trick

[chrome badge]

That's fair, one is an exploit, one is a risky adventure.

[supple bear]

You can get iron with the chair

its just way more time consuming

[hard sluice]

once i farmed those slimes that drop iron in the swamps, made myself a iron pick, then found silver with the stag.
i was wearing silver gear before the elder.
i know its nothing impressive, but just saying it can be done

[supple bear]

although these days maybe not really with good rng

The doors inside of frost caves drop iron bars

its not 100% though

[hard sluice]

the chair method to skip locked door is too much for me. i cant get behind that

[dark coyote]

odd, I would've made nails first

[sleek sky]

i feel its cool they added the console. players can cheat if they want, or not if they dont want to. and plus, if its a singleplayer world, who cares. defo doing it on multiplayer is uh not probably good

[supple bear]

The console been in the game since day 1

you used to have to type "imacheater" lol

[sleek sky]

ngl i woulda liked typing that instead of current one lmao

[gray sand]

Better times.

[supple bear]

back on the topic of cheating

[rare lichen]

Its challenging managing players when one of them has a tendency to spawn things, people tend to notice and fight about it lol
Which is funny because most players will spawn some things, like wood or stone.
That being said, most players wont spawn major progression stuff, unless they lose it to a reset or something unfair

[sleek sky]

people cant use the console on servers unless they are admin yeah?

[supple bear]

is using moats to break ai pathing cheating

[gray sand]

Nope.

[supple bear]

I mean if you think world hopping is an exploit

[gray sand]

It's not?

[supple bear]

Not you

And i agree

[chrome badge]

It's not cheating it's cheesing.

[hard sluice]

i'd argue that using inverted stairs is

[rare lichen]

Yeah. They must be admin on server and also the server needs a mod called SDC, and the player
If they dont have SDC then they get ban/kick but not the other commands like spawn etc

[supple bear]

Its funny to me people even bother doing all that mess

[gray sand]

What's next -- building anti-squito walls is "cheating" 😄

[supple bear]

You do understand raids target YOU not your base right

if you simply just leave your base when a raid happens they wont destroy anything

[sleek sky]

wdym by sdc

and the player, wdym by that as well

[rare lichen]

Im always torn about the Moat thing 🙁
I feel like it takes a lot of depth out of the building experience
But players love the safety of a moat

[sleek sky]

(ive never played on a server)

[chrome badge]

They will target your base's gates to get to you, and if they can't reach the gates, they will target a wall they can see.

[gray sand]

It's a mod that allows devcommands on a server.

[tough mulch]

Wait we had anti-squito walls? You must tell me your secrets

[sleek sky]

oh yeah i got the mod on my singleplayer world 😂

[merry pebble]

Depends what commands, some you can use as normal player, some you have to be an admin, and some you need to be the host

[supple bear]

I miss the game when plains was the final biome

[split adder]

are there any tips for yagluth

[supple bear]

S+ tier experience

[gray sand]

It's just building an outward stair config using beams on the top of your wall. Because they fly into the wall and then try to go up - you deny them the UP and they never get in.

[sleek sky]

barely wine

[gray sand]

Silver Sword.

[rare lichen]

Dang that was well explained jaja good job

[sleek sky]

also dodging the death laser either by tumble or blocking with the stones

[supple bear]

fire resist is manditory, just run away during meteors you will never get hit. During his ground slam go behind him and get in hits

[rare lichen]

I learn new things everyday

[supple bear]

if dire use the pillars as cover

[tough mulch]

Ohh thats smart, why didn't I think of that, Ill use it for future farms

[supple bear]

but you can avoid the meteors just by running away

[hard sluice]

i think the easiest way to kill yag is to use frost arrows. its not the most efficient, but its the safest and easiest method

[supple bear]

the easiest method is bonefire cheese

the slowest method is wooden club cheese

[hard sluice]

probably.
but i bet you can tell what i think about this : P

[gray sand]

• |

^ with 1m beams, then just use 2m or the long-ass corewood ones for 3D aspect going around.

[supple bear]

Its faster to kill him in melee

[gray sand]

WOW DISCORD....

[tough mulch]

Has anyone ever tried dragging yag into a hole full of spikes?

[chrome badge]

Ratatosk, Tasty Mead & Barley Wine make Yagluth quite easy

[supple bear]

Just run when he say ja rule

you'll be fine

[rare lichen]

Some people breed 2004142341 wolves and go kill Yag

[supple bear]

imagine taming animals

[rare lichen]

Ive always wondered about that. On one hand its avoiding combat.
On the other hand, damn, thats dedication

[sleek sky]

leave my 100 chickens i dont use for anything but lag alone

[tough mulch]

I killed fader with asksvins

[hard sluice]

i think you can circle him and keep hitting him in the back with a frostner.

[supple bear]

Yeah i dont bother taming anything

I generally get enough resources to last well past when i stop playing

[chrome badge]

2 Star tames are super handy

[rare lichen]

Ive heard that some people find other vikings to help them kill bosses

[sleek sky]

(i got a mod that changes haldor to sell every item in the game, and he now sells 20 eggs for 720 gold, so i hatched 300 chickens and uh dont do that)

[supple bear]

Killing Fader with magic is pretty easy mode as is

[sleek sky]

game freezes for like 30 seconds everytime i go near my base

[chrome badge]

I have an entire perimeter of 2 star wolves outside my base, raids spawn within that perimeter and get demolished

[lone rampart]

Did you know chickens go aggro on deer? I have one that escaped the coop and is a holy menace 🦖

[supple bear]

But if you were to use animals askvins are probably the best right, since they are eggs

you can just hatch them anywhere, including inside queens arena

[tough mulch]

Yep

[supple bear]

when they done kill them all and go get more eggs

[tough mulch]

transportable too

[supple bear]

I should have used askvins for my run i got stone portals before my first boss

[rare lichen]

Man once I was trying to figure out why an area was so laggy, players kept complaining to me.
I take a look and theres just a shed. Nothing incriminating...
Inside the shed? Nothin crazy. But... theres a basement.

In the basement? 50+hens 20+ wolves and 20+ boars
I felt like PETA

[tough mulch]

A pair of askvin can make 1 egg evey 1:30 its possible to have 4 laying eggs at the same time

[supple bear]

getting to ashlands on a raft and pillar hopping took like

4 real life hours

i was running as much as possible then id use the raft to cross, destroy raft, ect

[tough mulch]

I got to ashland swimmimg spire to spire and loggin in and out to reset heat status, 5 hrs I think

[supple bear]

you can get pretty lucky sometimes with really close shorelines to the border

[rare lichen]

I really enjoy building in those spires
Its like a "mini ashlands" without the monster intensity, just bonemaw and volture
Its some of my favorite music in the whole game too

[supple bear]

I forget ashlands even has music because i have to mute it in that biome

[rare lichen]

I spent like 20 hours just crashing there and building lolol

Didnt even touch the coast xD

[hard sluice]

i loved the music in the game, but i muted it so long ago, i don't know what half the biomes themes are.

i'm at 1.5k hours

[supple bear]

i have nearly 2k hours in the game

[green reef]

how come the raft doesn't burn?

[tough mulch]

Yeah blobs destroy any builds and only builds available are fortress builds or above putrid holes

[rare lichen]

Theres lots of playlists on YouTube 🙂
And you can get the soundtrack from their merch I think

[supple bear]

i can only play meadows and plains theme in my head off hand

[rare lichen]

Valheim has an incredible soundtrack, I love it ❤️

[supple bear]

and sailing

[chrome badge]

I just listen to Wardruna's 4 albums on repeat.

[tough mulch]

I made a tiny house at the every edge of the ashlands where the world falls off

[supple bear]

but i avoid sailing like the plague

sailing is the biggest waste of time

[rare lichen]

Thats why I filled the oceans in Enigma with Flying Bonemaw

Nobody says the ocean is boring now mwajajajajaja

[hard sluice]

One could argue that video games are wastes of time : P
But we certainly don't want to go there.

[sleek sky]

well then do i have the solution for you! its called portals!

[supple bear]

Exactly so why waste your time wasting your time doing something unejoyable

[tough mulch]

Its long, scaly, flys and breaths fire, thats a dragon

[supple bear]

I just play on one island seeds

[rare lichen]

Its awesome xD

[supple bear]

I have two different seeds where the first 5 bosses are all on the same landmass

[rare lichen]

Same.. or at least, I prefer Valheim when sailing is an option I can choose. Not something im forced to do

[supple bear]

and all the vendors 😛

[split adder]

is yagluths altar like moders where you can put the summon items down without actually summoning the boss

[sleek sky]

yes

[chrome badge]

No way, Pirates of the Carribean OST + Sailing is such a vibe.

[tough mulch]

I have one where all the vendors are in one place

[supple bear]

I play a nomadic style where i dont need to do transport runs anyway

[tough mulch]

I didn't know how lucky that was

[supple bear]

I move my little shit shack from biome to biome

5x5

[tough mulch]

Sounds efficient

[supple bear]

it is

[rare lichen]

I love the spots in seeds where multiple biomes meet, particularly 3 or 4 biomes really close together
I always feel like building there jajaja

[supple bear]

i spent almost no time running around my base doing things

and it has full upgrades and high comfort

[chrome badge]

You.. move your base? Rather than just portaling back to it?

[tough mulch]

I Actually wanted to try that haven't gotten around to it yet, I wanna make a list of materials to farm for each region before moving on to the next

[supple bear]

Due to ore restrictions, yes

i also dont even relaly have a real base until the plains anyway

and i build in a plains near a mistlands

[tough mulch]

I feel like this guy likes plains

[supple bear]

farming

[chrome badge]

Ratatosk Mead can help you cross even the biggest landmass in minutes.

You don't need to tear your whole spot down.

[hard sluice]

i think building is secondary when playing with portals. you only really need 1 base, and the location doesnt matter that much

[supple bear]

plus theres no real need before then for a base

[tough mulch]

Fair point

[supple bear]

silver has lost value a lot

all you really need is the draugr fang for moder

[tough mulch]

That thing I use for arrows?

[supple bear]

and even then you can still just use a fine bow

[tough mulch]

Its great... Just alot of things resistant to spirit

[chrome badge]

Silver Arrows are god tier.

They destroy in the Ashlands.

[tough mulch]

Frost arrows are the goat

[hard sluice]

id argue that you really only need 3 silver, 2 for the food upgrade, 1 for the wisplight

[chrome badge]

Low cost.

[supple bear]

In terms of progression silver isnt really worth it

[chrome badge]

Silver is better than Frost imo.

[supple bear]

The root harnesk allows you to just skip to padded easily

no need for silver armor

[tough mulch]

Just 2 silver, you can live without the wisplight

[gray sand]

Frost arrows need a nerf.

[lone rampart]

And however-many for the Goodboi Cloak

[hard sluice]

i used to think silver was better than frost in ashlands, but someone here made me realize thatsilver arrow are mostly phys dmg, only a little spirit

[nocturne wolf]

Silver sword is great for mountains, plains including yagluth and many enemies in ashlands

[supple bear]

cold resist cloak takes one silver

[hard sluice]

i did mistlands once without the mistlight. its doable but its really boring, in my opinion.

[supple bear]

i actually recommended an achievement to them for making a lox cape without killing a single boss

[chrome badge]

They have a more reliable stagger, which stops all movement and doubles damage more often.

[supple bear]

They............ probably wont add it

[tough mulch]

Does mistwalker use silver? I forgot

[hard sluice]

no, it uses iron.

its the polearm that uses silver

[tough mulch]

Of course its iron

[supple bear]

imagine using melee after mistlands

i will convert you all

[chrome badge]

You say imagine a lot. 😅

[tough mulch]

The berserkir axes are fun

[rare lichen]

We all have our catch phrases 😉

[supple bear]

More fun than pulling an entire dungeon and nuking it down?

[hard sluice]

i think melee combat is 10x more exciting than the mage combat.
And i'm a guy who traditionally play mages in video games

[tough mulch]

You cant nuke inside dungeons though

[chrome badge]

You just described one click kills all boredom.

[supple bear]

Yeah you can

[rare lichen]

I like it when the players fireball is adjusted to hurt them as well

[tough mulch]

Huh.. Google ai lied to me again

[green reef]

I can never get myself to commit to magic. play through 5 or 6 biomes before even being introduced to magic

[supple bear]

Mistland dungeons you pull as much as you can and run to the entrance

they struggle really hard to get up on that ledge

[chrome badge]

Melee builds, run through anything and never backtrack. 💪

[hard sluice]

i played on a server that had friendly fire locked on, and it nerfed the magic pretty well.
you couldnt really team up with a melee character without hurting it.

[tough mulch]

Bru they just fly to me lmao

[supple bear]

theres usually those root things that block them

just dont break them

[hard sluice]

google ai isn't great at answering valheim questions.
ask it questions that you already know the answer, you will probably see what i mean : P

[tough mulch]

Oh those are always broken by me kek

[supple bear]

they also only fly at you from a certain distance away

[tough mulch]

Yeah, it told me to find a dvgr base to make a batterimg ram once

[supple bear]

IMAGINE making a battering ram

[tough mulch]

Nah.. I iust dig

[supple bear]

You and everyone else

[chrome badge]

Battering Ram is crazy good wdym

[tough mulch]

I kinda like the closed off aspect, its like extra protection

So having a wall is a no go for me

[hard sluice]

on my last run, i made a special effort to use the battering ram...
its more work than digging.

[supple bear]

Lets all be grateful forts are as easily cheesable as they are

Its less time we have the spend in that abomination of a biome

[tough mulch]

True true, where else would we live in the ashlands

[supple bear]

on a flametal pillar

[hard sluice]

i use the ram to harvest black marble and other metals in mistlands..

[nocturne wolf]

It’s the best way to kill a stone golem

[rotund parrot]

I only skip using the ram and cheese it instead if I want to use it for a base otherwise I wouldn't bother cheesing it and just use the ram, it cost like 10 wood to get rid of both walls in seconds

[split adder]

what productive things should i do that isnt training my sword level while i wait for my barely wine to ferment

[chrome badge]

Battering Ram is just as easy to use, the cheeseheads are missing out

[tough mulch]

Gotta put that on ky valhiem bucket list

[hard sluice]

i love to melee those stone golems, they are chalenging..!
its more dangerous to get knocked out the mountain and die than from his hits. i think thats funny.

[supple bear]

Its a lot less time consuming to just use a hoe and a pick

[gray sand]

Battering Ram is backwards, change my mind.

[supple bear]

You get to the point where you dont even need to kill the enemies anymore

[chrome badge]

It takes literally 3 seconds to break with a ram.

[tough mulch]

I use prevention methods, shove them in a hole so more dont respawn

[hard sluice]

it took me a few tries before i figured out the ram worked on the opposite side : P

[supple bear]

and how much time does it take to make the stuff for a ram and deploy it

[chrome badge]

Almost nothing, because you need that stuff anyways

[hard sluice]

yeah ive seen it done.
its not how i enjoy the game, i consider it a cheese

[gray sand]

You were on the correct side, they just built it backwards and refuse to change it 😭

[rotund parrot]

the time it takes to take out your hammer

[supple bear]

Seems like a lot of work when i can just jump over the wall

[tough mulch]

Its alive, its not cheesed if it lived

[steel mica]

"You should have not done that"

-The so called confident ashland dvergr taking a dip in the lava

[chrome badge]

A couple clicks is more work than building up or digging under, that's crazy

[hard sluice]

i think the game is balanced better if i have to deal with those golems, not get them stuck and forget.

[supple bear]

I mean you go ahead an be the one person who actually uses that stuff

[tough mulch]

I dont wanna deal with another moder party full of golems and wolfs

[supple bear]

Worse case scenario theres like a few second difference anyway

[chrome badge]

Why assume no one uses it, there's at least 4 people just in this chat who say they use it.

[hard sluice]

the only time moder killed me, was because i got attacked by a stone golem while fighting..!
it sucks but.. its also a memorable moment. its better than to sleepwalk through it.

[supple bear]

Because the amount of youtube videos about ashlands with a ton of views that say to just cheese them

[chrome badge]

Not everyone is a youtube guide bandwagon person.

[tough mulch]

And my real thoughts... These golems like to destroy the natural rocky look of the mountains, give it a few days and the mountain looks like a qaurry

[supple bear]

Nope, minorities exist

This is well known common knowledge

[chrome badge]

They sure do, and youtubers cater to them.

[supple bear]

So you believe the majority of players use the battering ram?

[chrome badge]

They clickbait people into thinking it's a meta, when it's virtually no different.

[rotund parrot]

You can find videos on youtube telling you it's a good idea to mine copper underground

[hard sluice]

run to those golems, parry their hit, and bash them with a mace. problem solved 😛
jk though, i dont have a dog in that race. you do you.

[rare lichen]

Those YouTubers are crazy

[tough mulch]

Hmmm beat valhiem all mistlands challenge

[supple bear]

That was a long time ago

[tough mulch]

Same guy beat a soldier to death with his fist

[shy marlin]

has anyone actually done the math / analysis on which one is faster? I've always just surface mined

[chrome badge]

I never said that, but I do think people susceptible to youtube opinions are a minority.

[supple bear]

I keep forgetting just how long ashlands has been out

[rotund parrot]

Many, you get less copper, less mining levels obviously since digging dirt do not give xp and it also doesn't create a mess and health hazard in the forest as a side benefit

[chrome badge]

I think it's case by case, some people have like 3 nodes on the only black forest on their spawn island, so for them it is quicker to mine deep.

[supple bear]

Either way im grateful they're so easy to clear with no investment

[rare lichen]

Depends how it spawns too.. sometimes you get lucky and they are in a hill sorta thing and you can break them more easily

[supple bear]

Imagine mining flametal

[tough mulch]

Its easier now

Less than 1% chance of sinking

[supple bear]

I wouldnt know, mages need a grand total of 11 flametal for BIS gear

and i get 30 from one fort chest

[split adder]

what if we reduce all durability to 10

[chrome badge]

Imagine not taking your time experiencing the game.

[hard sluice]

i only had 1 flamemetal levia sink under me, so far.

[green reef]

I almost always dig around and under the copper node and get it all

[supple bear]

Theres nothing to experience in ashlands

I've likely also spent more time in every biome than you have

[green reef]

like my second one ever did that and I was like. woah, now how do I do thesse things.

[hard sluice]

i let the trolls do the mining nowadays. i mined enough bronze for a while.

[chrome badge]

Mining flametal is hilarious, it's a shame you've watched videos that encourage skipping those experiences.

[supple bear]

I've been retired since this game came out

[tough mulch]

Honestly... If it wasnt for the good building materials I wouldn't wanna be in the ashlands either....

[supple bear]

Its not a fair battle

[supple bear]

I dont skip them because of youtubers

[rare lichen]

I found people enjoyed the Ashlands when I added some safe areas to it. So they had places to take a break from the craziness. Sometimes I wonder if Ashlands needs like, a "meadows like" variant that gives players a safe place to build, surrounded by the chaos of normal ashlands

[supple bear]

I skip them because they are unnecessary

Why would i do something I dont need to do to progress?

[oblique zinc]

Bring out the yard stick .. measure up boys lol 😆

[tough mulch]

Imagine dvgr sanctuaries

[rotund parrot]

To progress much faster

[chrome badge]

Because building is fun and flametal pillars look awesome.

[supple bear]

We just established that a single fort gives me 3x more flametal than i need to beat the game. Why would i mine them

What value do i get from mining them

[oblique zinc]

Imagine no people arguing how to play the game better and just letting other people play it however tf the want ...

[rare lichen]

They hold their own decently if they are all 2 starred and get a few extra support healers 😉

[hard sluice]

i dont normally use the campfire spawn proofing method, but i'll do it in ashlands if it becomes too difficult to move around

[green reef]

how do you do the end game without flametal? just get it from forts?

[supple bear]

To be fair they're the ones who started it

They been subtly coming at me all day

[tough mulch]

I still bad for the bros, enemiee respawn they can't

[chrome badge]

Valheim is my slow burn game, I'll drink in every experience I can get, rushing the gate for the meta kits sounds so unfulfilling, and likely why you sound bored of it all.

[supple bear]

They have a serious problem with how i play and want me to know about it

[rare lichen]

Yeah finding the Dvergr in vanilla is a bit sad sometimes jajaja
Seems awefully like we get to witness them die a lot xD
Its a setup ! !

[supple bear]

I wish ashlands was actually worth exploring though

Unfortunately it isn't, and it never will be because the devs consider the biome finished

[rare lichen]

Smurf Slaughter 5

[chrome badge]

Worth is subjective.

[supple bear]

Indeed it is

[light moat]

(Oh hey, when did emojis from other servers become available in Valheim chat?)

[hard sluice]

what part of the game do you enjoy...?

[oblique zinc]

Imagine no flametal, I wonder if you can. Imagine no more fighting, a brotherhood of man ... I feel like we need chatgpt help to write Valheim based Imagine song

[shy marlin]

i think that's a booster thing

[chrome badge]

Just recently

It used to just be general.

[rare lichen]

The biome itself is really beautiful 🙂
Lots of weapons and armor too... huge variety... lots of monster types
But yeah, its hard for players to enjoy there cause of how crazy it is. Not gonna deny that!
But hey, thats how IronGate wants it. They have their reasons

[tacit crystal]

For boosters it has been available long in this channel IIRC.

[supple bear]

I think everything up to mistlands is an s tier experience. I liked mistlands better pre PTR nerf when bugs were more common in the overworld. Ashlands is a speedrun biome for me.

[light moat]

Noice!

[hard sluice]

the ashland is meant to be difficult and 'painful', no?
It feels like hell...

[chrome badge]

I tried about 2 weeks ago and it was just general, unless it was a temporary switch off?

[rare lichen]

"Firey death and war"

[supple bear]

Maybe, but it ends up just being annoying

[mighty geyser]

is there anybody that wants to start a new world?

[light moat]

Yeah iirc don’t they were available 🤔

[oblique zinc]

No more seeds left

[supple bear]

Kind of depends on the build though, using magic makes ashlands a joke

[split adder]

what on earth is going on in yagluths fight

how on earth do i hit him

[supple bear]

especially once you get the wild staff

[mighty geyser]

what does that mean

[green reef]

inbetween his things.

[tacit crystal]

Hmm, when I was booster they were available here.

[oblique zinc]

Sorry, joke

[rare lichen]

Im starting a new public server on Sunday 🙂
Fresh seed. But its Enigma Mode sooo... not like a normal Valheim experience xD
You can also look here https://discord.com/channels/391142601740517377/1024264966712340510

[chrome badge]

Are you good at dodge rolling? Are you using Ratatosk & Tasty Mead?

[light moat]

Huh, busy chat tonight
y’all stuck in the ice storm too?

[supple bear]

You know I should try that ratatosk stuff

[green reef]

Gotta use Fire Resist Mead on Yag

[supple bear]

i didnt bother with it at all my last playthrough

[green reef]

Ratatosk + Leapfoot = 💋 in both Mist and Ashland

[supple bear]

i use like 2 meads my entire playthrough lol

[rare lichen]

Movement speed 😍

[chrome badge]

I can't go without Ratatosk at this point.

[supple bear]

So its a crutch?

[rotund parrot]

I live in Canada, snow storm is a weekly occurrence this time of the year, but we are used to deal with it so it doesn't paralyze everything and cause issues

[supple bear]

😛

what does it do

[chrome badge]

It's useful.

[shy marlin]

no more 🧙 ⌛ 😢

[green reef]

Leapfoot is so much fun, can bounce all around Mistland, and even Ashlands can use all the elevation points

[chrome badge]

It grants movement speed bonus.

[light moat]

My thought exactly LOL

[supple bear]

move speed is always a good stat

[chrome badge]

I'm in Toronto, that last storm is still crippling us.

[green reef]

I can't help but run around like a maniac, so Ratatosk helps me preserve stamina

[supple bear]

I just use the deer power when i need to run

[hard sluice]

i only start using ratatosk in ashlands. running faster than enemies is obviously very useful

[supple bear]

Im not a typical player though

I just use food and reseted buff

[rotund parrot]

Quite a bit north in Quebec, we get much more snow around here

[supple bear]

i dont min max elixers or even bother with them

i dont even make healing ones lol

[chrome badge]

Ah very cool, I'm moving to AB soon, I will experience similar winters there.

[oblique zinc]

Looks like it's also crippling Leafs

[supple bear]

one poison resist to fight bonemass, a fire resist for yag and thats all i ever make with the fermenter

[mighty geyser]

is there anybody that wants to make new world

[gray sand]

I make fire for Yag and then Tasty Meads for general use.

If I ever make a poison resist it is purely for decoration.