valheim-chat

[fossil delta]

I'm not confused. I knew what I meant. 😄

[tacit crystal]

[fossil delta]

See, to me stamina is used when? When we need it to fight, or run. So I tie it to our "Fight or Flight" responses, because that is how my brain works. So, adrenaline. So adrenaline and stamina are effectively the same thing in my mind, when it comes to the game play in Valheim.

[gray sand]

I suppose you call health eitr then because both are used in summoning magic?

[fossil delta]

No, magic is purely imaginary, and has no scientific equivalent. One of my degrees is in Biology, so I know the Fight or Flight response.

[dark coyote]

do bloodgeon stacks cap at %100?

[fossil delta]

So since, at least I, only use the stamina mead when I want to keep beating the crap out of something, or run, it equates to fight or flight response to me.

[gray sand]

Huh?

What are bloodgeon stacks?

[dark coyote]

can it exceed %100 damage bonus?

[gray sand]

Can what exceed it? What are you talking about?

[dark coyote]

constructive responses only, ty

[nocturne wolf]

The bonus damage on bloodstone weapons? There is no limit.

[gray sand]

??????

How the fuck is "what are you speaking about?" When you aren't using any words from the game not constructive???

[nocturne wolf]

Bloodgeon isn't the only bloodstone weapon

[gray sand]

Bloodstone also doesn't have any stacks...

Maximum possible current bonus is 64.8% now that I understand what we are talking about.

[fossil delta]

Bloodgeon is a weapon name? 😄 😄

Oh, I'm going to have to craft it now.

[gray sand]

The only weapons with stacks are ones that deal fire or spirit damage, so forgive me for being thrown.

[dark coyote]

oh its 0.2% nvm, thought it was 2%, I was gonna say that seems op on health build

[tacit crystal]

2% per 1 missing hp would skyrocket the damage output honestly. 👀

[dark coyote]

yeah sorry

[fossil delta]

Is that the Ashlands mace name?

OK, I was going to craft it anyways, but now I have a little extra motivation for making it.

[dark coyote]

shame there isnt a life leach augment

[tacit crystal]

The bloodstone mace is Bloodgeon, yes.

[nocturne wolf]

Bombs have stacks

[gray sand]

Elaborate?

[nocturne wolf]

You can have a stack of bombs

[tacit crystal]

[gray sand]

...

[fossil delta]

One of these days I will get to finish an Ashlands play through, and finally experience all this stuff myself. This last time my wife's glasses broke, so now she is blind. She should get her new ones in Sunday or Monday, so we can start playing together again. So finish our Ashlands play throughs. Until then, I do my solo play.

[dark coyote]

is she farsighted?

[rugged bridge]

At least ashlands still has one last "first" to give me

[wintry valve]

I made barley bread for the first time

[rugged bridge]

Clearing the biome knowing that I'm moving into the deep north right after will make its experience a bit different hopefully

[wintry valve]

Its not all that great, but Im pretty sure I messed up the recipe

[fossil delta]

She actually sees extremely well up close. So whatever that is called.

[dark coyote]

nearsighted likely, I have that I just need glasses to drive legally

[fossil delta]

She needs glasses for anything more than a foot away from her face. Everything just gets more blurry from there on out.

We got her two pairs this time.

[pliant radish]

unfortunately conversation is typically not a single person experience, so you can't use words differently than the norm and expect others to understand you

[rotund dust]

I beg to differ, some of the best conversations I've ever had are at 3am with myself

[fossil delta]

Oh, I do it all the time. I don't really care about being "normal". I find that to be boring. I also do not expect people to understand me.

[dark coyote]

think he was just differentiating between flat vs regen

[fossil delta]

To me skill increases are actually stamina, and I guess the regen of tasty mead would fit that best as well. When I use meads, I define it as being an injection of adrenaline. Because of how I relate that to our Fight or Flight Response. So to me, and how I think, Stamina is not the correct word for all situations in Valheim. So I also use adrenaline with how I think about things.

I do usually remember to use the word stamina here, but my brain sometime forgets. So I use what does come to my mind.

[exotic silo]

u are confused with the term in your head and the actual in-game term. 🤷‍♂️

[rotund dust]

In regards to Hildirs Challenges, they were implemented at Mistlands Equipment Level Right?

[rugged bridge]

It's all shits and giggles until you talk to your sleep paralysis demon at 3 AM

[rotund dust]

Sleep? Unsure of that term

[rugged bridge]

It's that action which skips all the smelters, I tried it with my oven and it worked, the chicken came out perfectly and I didn't have to wait at all

[exotic silo]

there shouldn't be any lock in place. u can access her table at any time. clearing the fuling tower is a different matter tho.

[fossil delta]

Not confused, no. I understand how it is used in Valheim, by Iron Gate, but Stamina is muscle conditioning. So that works for me with regards to the increases we get from the run and jump skill. That is conditioning. When I use the meads for combat or running, thats when it become adrenaline to me. We are injecting ourselves with adrenaline to fight or run. Just like our bodies use when we have our Fight or Flight response. So I make perfect sense to myself. 😄 😄

[exotic silo]

exactly my point

[rotund dust]

Yeah the table is unlocked, but, the bosses are equiv to mistlands gear, or at least end game plains?

[rugged bridge]

They're equivalent to their respective biomes' equipment

[exotic silo]

I'd recommend later plains and up

[fossil delta]

Yeah, as DTO said, we can access those challenges as soon as we find her and touch her table.

[rugged bridge]

Don't really need late plains/mistlands gear to kill a glorified skeleton with one extra attack

[rotund dust]

The Tomb is first then? And equiv to the BF Burial Chambers?

[fossil delta]

I too, as DTO suggests, would wait until you have plains gear to do at least the Sealed Tower. I find the others to be easier, so iron gear might be good enough for those.

[rotund dust]

I know Cavern is Mountain, and Tower Plains

[exotic silo]

I was thinking of the fuling tower 😅

[fossil delta]

Yeah, the Sealed Tower. I love that one.

[rugged bridge]

I mean, sure it's first if you follow the game's progression system yeah, it's just a slightly harder burial chamber, you can comfortably clear it if you have bronze gear

Same applies for the howling cavern/sealed tower and their respective biomes' top gears

[rotund dust]

Aight no longer going to bonemass, heading to Smouldering Tomb 😄

[rugged bridge]

Have fun fighting uhh

[rotund dust]

No spoilers XD

[rugged bridge]

Whatever the skeleton's name is, something with B or so

[fossil delta]

She has a cool trophy. Among my favorites.

[rugged bridge]

The ashlands skeleton trophies are by far the coolest concept to me

[rotund dust]

Serpent was always my fav, havent seen the ashlands ones yet

[rugged bridge]

The trophies alone aren't anything special

[exotic silo]

nothing beats bonemaw

[rugged bridge]

But together, they create fun stuff

[exotic silo]

not even fader

[fossil delta]

I like hers better. Probably mostly because its hers, and only hers. Even though you can end up with a lot of them. 😄

[tacit crystal]

Fog during night in plains is actually useful, as Viles have that "undead aura", which makes them more recognizable through fog.

[fossil delta]

Note, I did not say hers is the best in the game. Just among my favorites.

[rugged bridge]

Solo trophies I'd probably give it to either stone golem or eikthyr, since both can actually fit inside the house lol

[rugged bridge]

Yeah, the pigment change on your screen from gray to pitch black is quite noticeable

[fossil delta]

It is. Sucks for the growths, though. Thankfully those are usually easy to hear before they blast you. So I'd recommend hunting Viles in areas you have already mapped.

[rugged bridge]

Slow enough to easily avoid when hunting viles so I usually just don't give a crap about em

[fossil delta]

So you never unkowingly go by a tar pit?

[rugged bridge]

No, usually just spot them from a distance due to the difference in terrain color + the whiteness of the protruding bones around them

Alas vile hunting hasn't proven too useful in the latest experience I've had, wasn't exactly mine since I ended up helping my friend make the set and he then got absolutely violated by every creature in the mistlands

Didn't make the set out to be promising after seeing your friend get butchered multiple times lol

[empty nest]

I just died on fodder hc ffs

[rotund dust]

Why does the mace, yeet Fulings 200m back compared to everything else hardly moving back each hit 😂 10/10

[empty nest]

Modder

[fossil delta]

Well, good luck with that in heavy fog, in an unmapped area, at night. Yeah, my wife is trying it out for our newest trip into the Ashlands. I would guess she will do OK, since before, up to now, she wore the Root Armor all the way to Ashlands.

[rugged bridge]

Climb up to the top of the sealed tower and try it out there

I played "how far can you launch the fuling" with my friend

They also make good golf balls

[tacit crystal]

That's what I'm doing in my older world with my bow only character.

[fossil delta]

Yeah, the knock back can be fun. I do my best to hit them into rocks, walls, etc... when I want to kill them ASAP.

[tacit crystal]

Testing out Vilebone set with Wolf sight trinket how busted the bow damage becomes lol.

[fossil delta]

Oh, yeah, that should be interesting.

I do the tanking, so my wife can try that out.

[rugged bridge]

Speaking of ashlands I deeply miss the immersion I felt during the beta client playthrough, my first one

Feels like I'm going through the biome way too fast now

Hopefully DN will bring that feeling back, even though it's supposed to be more relaxing than ashlands

[fossil delta]

I/we explore a lot, so we spend much more time in each biome than most people here seem to, by how they talk about things. Like I explore many islands in each biome.

[jovial sleet]

tips for building a second story with stone floors without a pillar every inch?

[fossil delta]

Core wood should do it. If not, the iron beams.

I've done up to 5 floors with core wood.

Plus the roof.

[jovial sleet]

how do you mean

core wood pillars?

[fossil delta]

Use core wood as your framing.

[tacit crystal]

It certainly is, with fully upgraded Spinesnap and silver arrows Viles just melt with less than 10 arrows.

[gray sand]

Ironwood beams across the bottom.

[fossil delta]

Just like you would use the iron beams.

[gray sand]

Ironwood pillars from said beams, but only down the walls.

[rugged bridge]

Yeah I mean my exploration is just dependent on finding the things I need so it's up to luck for the most part

[fossil delta]

I didn't use iron beams at all for my 5 story tower. Just core wood. Also put them to the ground.

Just like you would for the iron beams.

Now, I did this tower maybe 3 years ago, so if they have changed build strengths, etc... since then....

Pretty sure they haven't, so core wood should do the job just fine.

[jovial sleet]

picture example?

or good vid on it

[fossil delta]

Steam made hundreds of my screenshots go away for some reason. So I no longer have any.

[tawny glade]

ive been running bear paws this entire time, just unlocked iron, what weapons are good?

[tacit crystal]

What else weapons you like to use?

[fossil delta]

Comes down to what you like. They can all be "good".

[tawny glade]

don't really care about style, more just prefer to minmax if theres any that are objectively better stat wise

[tacit crystal]

Then, you want to have mace.

[fossil delta]

Probably the iron mace, then.

[tawny glade]

ty

[fossil delta]

Swords are something you want to start using soon.

[tacit crystal]

Generally good idea to have all physical damage types covered (slash, blunt, pierce), as you have bear paws they fare well even in next biome until you get mats for next fist weapon.

[fossil delta]

I start when I reach the plains.

[tacit crystal]

You can show her this clip: #memes-and-clips message

[rotund dust]

Your clip is 0 seconds long?

[tacit crystal]

Seemed at first but now seems to work. Maybe was uploading or else.

[rotund dust]

Wtf is that draw speed? Mine takes like 2 hours to draw and shoot 😂

[merry pebble]

High level bow skill 😄 i would say at least 70 but if its a test character i would bet 100

[tacit crystal]

Lvl 100 bow level with bow only character.

[gray sand]

Drawspeed scaling on bow skill is one of the reasons they are insane, and currently just outright better than Arbalests 😭

[tacit crystal]

It was my bow only perma run so no cheats used.

[merry pebble]

Niiiiiiiiiiiiice

[rotund dust]

Melee is fun tho, bow is boring... Only needed it for a random Drake so far

[tacit crystal]

Lots of woodcutting and feather gathering for that run tho.

[gray sand]

Spears my beloved.

Also great for Drakes.

[rotund dust]

Spears are good, til you yeet them off somewhere very high never to be seen again 🙁

[gray sand]

Skill issue 😉

Also just wait till the drake pulls up to spit. They have wings fully out making their hit box massive and they aren't moving 🤷‍♂️

[rotund dust]

100% skill issue, he wasnt even aggroed, so I was trying to hit the still target and completely missed 😂

[gray sand]

Best practice for spear throwing is honestly spooking deer on purpose and then trying to hit while they run.

Or just... greylings while they run randomly.

[rotund dust]

Deathsquitos were a good target practice, but when you miss in troll armor, death comes for you

[gray sand]

Troll Armor in Plains is... a choice.

[tawny glade]

any counter to being poisoned, any antidote type items

[rotund dust]

The Elder location was thru the tiniest of plains, I took the "She'll be right" approach, turns out it wasnt 😂

All the things we learn as we go.

[gray sand]

Poison Resist Mead.

[merry pebble]

There is poison resistance mead 🙂 but you have to drink it before you get poisoned for it to help

[rotund dust]

Root Helmet provides resistance too

Poison Resistance Mead is stronger tho, but must be consumed before poisoned

[gray sand]

Mead provides higher resist, yeah.

[rotund dust]

I love seeing the clips of people getting poisoned then popping the mead and wondering what it does 😂

[merry pebble]

Nothing 😄

[rotund dust]

Yeah they learn the hard way 😛

Speaking of Poison, I just tested, and Parrying a Leech, only gives a 3 second poison, vs the what 15 second non parry, also reduced the damage from 2.4 to 0.8 (no poison mead on atm)

Im assuming you cant parry the poison clouds from Ooze?

[merry pebble]

No you cant

[fossil delta]

That was nice! Got a trophy on my 5th and 6th Golem! 7th didn't give me one, though. 🙁

[twin galleon]

Yo is it normal for two Sunken Crypt gates to appear? I believe I found two entrances.😅

[maiden tartan]

Ngl I feel like biome feasts should be craftable before defeating the biome boss

That’d be kinda dope

[gray sand]

They would instantly become the best food in the biome if they did that.
So... plz no.

[maiden tartan]

That you need the bog witch for

Also let’s not forget that serpent meat exists

Bog witch is rather hard to find

[gray sand]

Best is best.
I prefer things to be a matter of choice instead of having an outright, objectively better option.

[maiden tartan]

Best for the amount of effort

[gray sand]

You can add any preposition you want.
Best is best.

[maiden tartan]

You have a choice to either waste 3 hours finding the bog witch

Or just eat normal food

[gray sand]

Finding the trader that you will want to find anyway is not a waste of time in any context.

[twin galleon]

Wasn’t hard for me finding her I seen her hit and ran into it and was like wow a safe space

[maiden tartan]

It’s very RNG dependent

[gray sand]

She's the one trader that isn't a safe space though 😄

[maiden tartan]

You have like a bajillion possible spawn location

[gray sand]

Yay for madeup numbers.

[twin galleon]

Well that might’ve explained why that Draugr Elite ran into the protection circle

[maiden tartan]

“Like a bajillion” is a sarcastic over exaggeration

Smh, captain humorous

[maiden tartan]

Bog witch got a broom that slaps the hell out of enemies

Instead of a barrier

[gray sand]

She just has a "no build" bubble.
Dvergr are the ones who know how to summon safety bubbles.

[twin galleon]

Hmmm strange lady but I was glad for company

[gray sand]

She is the one trader you will continually trade with.

[twin galleon]

Ran around back outside and made a safe place to sleep not too far from the Crypt Gate

[maiden tartan]

Hildir needs a buff

[lone rampart]

Gotta get those spices and ||other bits||

[maiden tartan]

Actually useless trader except for the armor that you have to slave away for just to get farming skill

[gray sand]

How can you state something is useless and then immediately follow it with an example of what makes it useful?

[twin galleon]

Actually made a base not too far from Hildir😅

[maiden tartan]

It’s not worth the effort at all

[gray sand]

Worth is subjecthive to the individual.
Hildr's garments are not objectively bad. They are a matter of personal preference.

[twin galleon]

Haven’t found the blacksmith dude tho I know he’s in a Black Forest somewhere

[maiden tartan]

A cool neat reward that becomes absolutely obsolete compared to the amount of things you gotta do for it

[nocturne wolf]

Hildir has fireworks

[maiden tartan]

I’d like something more practical

[gray sand]

Her farming set bonus is only obsolete if you pass like 90 farming skill.
Her base set bonus always has value unless you somehow finish building permanently and never intend to hammer or hoe ever again.

[maiden tartan]

Yagluth power, yo

[nocturne wolf]

They’re the most practical way to make pretty explosions

[maiden tartan]

[twin galleon]

Is there a special way to cook fish?

[gray sand]

I'm happy that you truly believe that was a good comeback.

[gray sand]

Need iron, build preparation table.

[maiden tartan]

I hate arguing with you so much

[lone rampart]

Yes, they need to be prepared first at the prep table

[twin galleon]

Dang iron

[gray sand]

When you are able to make valid points it will go a lot better 🤷‍♂️

[maiden tartan]

Your opinion was “my opinion was objectively better than yours”

[twin galleon]

Welp folks I’m going into the Sunken Crypts wish me luck

[gray sand]

If you consider correct information to be "better", then yes.

[maiden tartan]

Correct is subjective

[gray sand]

You don't need luck, you have weapons 😉

[maiden tartan]

Very

[gray sand]

This is false.

[maiden tartan]

Me when 3 blocked rooms

[maiden tartan]

Nope, it’s “correct” to you

[gray sand]

That's not how the truth works, but ok.

[maiden tartan]

Your opinion doesn’t make opinions of others obsolete and the world does not revolve around you

[gray sand]

I never said it did or even hinted that I believed that.

[glad night]

"hildir is useless because I don't like what she has to offer"
Sure bud

[maiden tartan]

Her offers are rather expensive and don’t provide any buff worth the effort
I am suggesting that she gets buffed

You will have very good farming with all the farming skill + yagluth power by the time you finish all of her quests

[neon lava]

Are there any confirmed changes/additions for 1.0? The new biome is given, but any rework of the old ones?

[maiden tartan]

Is the farmer suit really worth all the quests?

[glad night]

Worth the effort in your opinion...
Objectively, she adds flavor and other useful things

[gray sand]

The "worth" part is you putting your opinion in place of the facts.

Her set bonuses do provide value.

[gray sand]

Confirmed? No.

[maiden tartan]

I am not dictating the truth like you do, I am speaking my opinion and actively arguing over it

You try to push your opinion as sole truth

[nocturne wolf]

They’ve said they are planning to make changes/additions to previous biomes, we haven’t seen any specific examples yet

[merry pebble]

It is if you know where to sit/not sit 😄

[gray sand]

You are dictating truth when you say "not worth."
Because that isn't truth, that is opinion.

I am not stating an opinion when I say they have value, that is a truth.

[maiden tartan]

Not worth, in my opinion

Does that make you happy

[glad night]

👍

[gray sand]

See, now I don't have anything to point out.
👏

[maiden tartan]

Yay, now don’t talk to me please

[gray sand]

That isn't how public chatrooms work, but 👍

[maiden tartan]

One last time I reply to you

It is how public chat rooms work
I blocked you

[glad night]

And ignoring and talking over someone is rude

[maiden tartan]

Can you talk over someone in text format

[gray sand]

OMG
Ra's Al Ghul would be so proud.
Have you finally learned to do what it necessary?

[glad night]

🤦‍♂️
"can you talk over someone in text format..." Yes

[maiden tartan]

How

[glad night]

How's things with you Sevrahn?

[gray sand]

"I cannot handle people pointing out truths that contradict my opinion. I will block all who speak the truth and live in the I AM RIGHT bubble I construct for myself." 😉

[glad night]

Got any new builds you're proud of?

[gray sand]

#building-ideas

[maiden tartan]

Also I want serpent stew to be nerfed

Or harder to get

Kinda makes hens obsolete

[glad night]

Ooh, that's a very nice aesthetic

[gray sand]

Thank you kindly.

[maiden tartan]

Considering how easy serpent meat is to get

[glad night]

I just finished a bridge, working on laying out the perimeter for a port

[gray sand]

Also if you wanted any insight into why the majority of suggestions get uber-downvoted 😄

[gray sand]

What biome?

[glad night]

Meadows. Just started a new world with 3 inexperienced friends (3-11 hours), they designated me builder lol

[gray sand]

And you promptly said "no peasants, build for thineselves!" riiiiight? 😏

[glad night]

Little island off the coast, makes a nice little port area

[glad night]

Nah, I enjoy building haha. Figuring out how to realize my idea

[maiden tartan]

Speaking of meadows

[merry pebble]

Well, "easy" is very much relative 😄 just look on how much complaints were/are there about bear trophy drop rate, that is 10% serpents have half that to even spawn, and that is when they are actually able to spawn.

[maiden tartan]

Every time I have abundance of deer but like no hogs

[gray sand]

Which is good for you.
But they need to learn or they will always be "inexperienced" 😭

[merry pebble]

RNG

[lone rampart]

thyselves* thine is only used if the following word begins with a vowel or vowel sound. "Thine own selves;" "thine honor."

[glad night]

Sure, I'll make them build a few things haha. But, they gotta learn how to survive initially first lol

[maiden tartan]

Only 10%?

[gray sand]

Well this would very greatly depending on how you pronounced "honor" 😉

[maiden tartan]

Does the percentage rise in storms?

[merry pebble]

10% is the bear trophy, serpents have 5% to spawn either at night or in storm

[maiden tartan]

Jeepers

[lone rampart]

Also true but it was the first word I thought of that technically starts with a consonant but is pronounced as a vowel in most dialects

[maiden tartan]

Is it like 5% every 10 mins or what

[merry pebble]

Storms have also 5%, when its night and storm then the game basically rolls 5% two times

[merry pebble]

16m 40s

[maiden tartan]

Yikes

[merry pebble]

https://valheim.fandom.com/wiki/Spawn_zones

[maiden tartan]

I do still think it should not outclass chickens tho

[merry pebble]

Chickens are just way to easy to breed

[maiden tartan]

On one hand you can get a stable supply of chicken

[merry pebble]

I really never go to farm serpents

[gray sand]

Yhickens in Deep North? 👀

[lone rampart]

Yeti Chickens

[maiden tartan]

I have a pile of serpent meat just because serpents keep bothering me and my friends when we sail

[merry pebble]

Then thank your rng for that 🙂

[maiden tartan]

Fair enouf

I do want more boars tho

Like 10 deer and 0 boars

😔

[merry pebble]

Then thank your rng for that 🙂

[gray sand]

Inb4 their next suggestion is "rng needs a nerf" 😉

[maiden tartan]

Would be nice if we got more usage for beetroot

[gray sand]

There is no such item in the game?

[maiden tartan]

I think it’s only used for that one Halloween decoration and magic mushroom outside of swamps

Or turnips or whatever you call them

[glad night]

He's not talking to you, remember. Sad that some people will stoop to such levels over a minor disagreement

[merry pebble]

2 build pieces and 3 foods

[maiden tartan]

Wait

[gray sand]

🤷‍♂️

[maiden tartan]

Which ones

[merry pebble]

+1 feast since you use turnip stew in taht

[merry pebble]

https://valheim.fandom.com/wiki/Turnip

[maiden tartan]

I can only think of turnip lantern

[merry pebble]

upgrade to cauldron

[maiden tartan]

Oh it can be used for spice rack

[gray sand]

Can be vs. Has to be.

[maiden tartan]

I argued with that person before and I am very tired of doing so

I am saving nerves for me and the person

[maiden tartan]

Only one of those foods is used outside of Iron Age tho

[merry pebble]

Grammar "group of bad people starting with N typically associated with 1940ties" are not fun Sev...
Especially on international server

[maiden tartan]

Stuffed magic mushroom

It’s a shame that you don’t really use the thing after you move onto the next age

[merry pebble]

If you dont feeed them to boars 🙂

[maiden tartan]

I should probably catch myself a few boars

[gray sand]

Nepo babies?

[merry pebble]

No idea what that is and too lazy to google, but i bet it has nothing to do with valheim...

[maiden tartan]

Also you can use carrots for that

I like what they did with carrots

A relevant crop even past its biome

[merry pebble]

And onions, and raspberies + blueberies

[gray sand]

Mushrooms.

[maiden tartan]

Wasting onion on a boar feels criminal ngl

[merry pebble]

Why? my personal favourite pre-plains crop to farm

[maiden tartan]

You get onions fairly late

[gray sand]

Infinite resources cannot be wasted...

[maiden tartan]

And there are much easier options to give to boars

Like berri- never mind I need those for cooking

[merry pebble]

If you want to suggest carrots or turnips then i must inform you they are the exact same as for their difficulty of cultivating and thus ease of feeding them to boars

And as for berries... You cant plant those yourself

[maiden tartan]

Yeah

Ngl it’s a shame

[merry pebble]

Not really, makes you go out, forage and take in all the beautifull scenery

[maiden tartan]

I can see why we can’t plant berries but I would still like to do so

[tacit crystal]

It's fine, berry trips are relaxing and you can hunt bears.

And get harassed by locals.

[gray sand]

Hunt the necks

[maiden tartan]

Last time I did a berry trip I had to run from a greydwarf horde equivalent of a small town and 3 brutes

Some of the brutes were starred

[tacit crystal]

You wouldn't believe if I said... Rng.

[merry pebble]

Gasp! Be glad Blob isnt here to read this...

[gray sand]

😄

[maiden tartan]

Tru

[gray sand]

I meant Asksvin on vineberry runs! 😛

[merry pebble]

Those poor old necks... 😏

[tacit crystal]

Buff necks. 💪

[gray sand]

Tameable necks when plz 😭

[merry pebble]

When you reach ashlands 😄

[gray sand]

Nuuuuuuu.

I want a neck riding in an asksvin saddle 😄

[merry pebble]

Neck-ception 👀

[gray sand]

I'm sure some art person has done it.

[jovial sleet]

yeah, theres a new map of my damn island.. i can kinda access my base from North and West, but no way on east or south, id have to boat so damn far around it

are they usually this bad? pic in help chat

[gray sand]

Define "usually" in the world of RNG?

[jovial sleet]

yes

[tacit crystal]

It solely depends on the seed where it takes the place in the bigger map.

[merry pebble]

And on your choice of base location

[gray sand]

Mountain base. No access at all. Problem solved.

[jovial sleet]

theres no place on my spawn continent that i can easily access from all sides sadly

[maiden tartan]

I find it so funny how already fast mobs turn into rockets when you slide up the difficulty scaling

Boars are so funny

Boars got a sip of that tasty mead

[merry pebble]

You can affect their speed and size using commands too 🙂 you should see how much fun there is with that

[mint pilot]

My rng completely sucks complete donkey doo doo i have been killing hundreds of bears and not a single trophy

[gray sand]

Go find Haldor.

[mint pilot]

The bear trophy is a conspiracy made by the radicals at coffee stain to make you switch to goat sim

[mint pilot]

Whos that

[gray sand]

😭

Important NPC in the black forest.

[mint pilot]

Oh right i forgor

[gray sand]

He has a bear trophy.

[mint pilot]

Dont you need two to complete the set or something

[gray sand]

You need 1 for the hat, that is it.

[stray kestrel]

I didn't realize the little blue freak sold those, learn something new every day

[mint pilot]

Nice, does he also not appear in every bf cause my bf map is completely filled out

[gray sand]

Didn't say sold.
He has one. You can take it from him, not buy it.

[merry pebble]

Doesent sell it, but he has the rug

[mint pilot]

Even better

I get to do fa for the stupidest rng item in the game

[merry pebble]

Oh boy... You have not been playing for long have you xD

[stray kestrel]

Ahhhh all it takes is a sprinkle of thievery

[mint pilot]

Ive played a long time but have made little progress

[gray sand]

Moreso vandalism 😄 @stray kestrel

[mint pilot]

Do you beat him up

[gray sand]

You break his rug.

[mint pilot]

Oh

Does it need a certain tool

[stray kestrel]

To-may-to to-mah-to

[gray sand]

Any weapon that does damage.

[mint pilot]

Nice

[merry pebble]

You just need to reload the area first

[mint pilot]

Is there a trick to finding him cause I dont think hes in my starting bf

[gray sand]

Spiral exploration pattern. He is tied to a radius from spawn.

[stray kestrel]

Unless you want to cheat and look up your seed, just sprint around every black forest you find lol

[vagrant iris]

hello I have a question about rocky, because he spawns 1000m away from spawn and there is no measurement option on the map, how do i now if im far enough?

[gray sand]

Not even 🤷‍♂️ Have been able to break it on spawn 3 times now without any reload.

[merry pebble]

You might have reloaded the chunk by accident, but you shouldnt be able to break it upon generating the camp the first time

[gray sand]

Why "shouldn't" ? 🤔

[mint pilot]

Wait is it being breakable a glitch?

[gray sand]

And how does one reload on accident while walking in a straight line directly to him?

[mint pilot]

Im glad im figuring this out before iron gate decide to patch it

[merry pebble]

Because when it was found out we did test it quite a bit 😄 and this is what we found out

[gray sand]

They may have unglitched it in one of their tiny patches 🤷‍♂️

[merry pebble]

And i dont want to say cant since i didnt look at the code or have exact knowledge how the "suddenly is breakable" part works

-# And i am also continuously loosing the ability to write coherent sentences... Time to go to bed

[mint pilot]

Is Haldor supposed to be in every blackforest or is it specifically that spiral explore thing sevrahn mentioned

[gray sand]

Last 3 starts I have done I cheated and used the map, then beelined straight to him.
So idk where in that any "reloading" would have happened 🤷‍♂️

[gray sand]

He has multiple dedicated spawn points and whichever you get close to first is where he spawns and the others just remain normal forest.

[merry pebble]

I was testing it by teleporting straight to his location, was unbreakable every time until the chunk reloaded

[tacit crystal]

10 possible spawn points scattered around the world at least 1500m distance from the center.

[mint pilot]

Oh so he only spawns once too

[tacit crystal]

Spawns on the first spawn point inside the render area and stays there for good.

[gray sand]

Odd. Possibly tied to teleporting unless walking is repeatedly loading and unloading stuff. But idk 🤷‍♂️

[mint pilot]

Im gonna love this

[merry pebble]

Maybe, doesent matter much in the end, most likely it will be breakable once you get to haldor the normal way 😄

[mint pilot]

Im insensitive to measurements, is there a way to check how far i am from spawn. Is there a coordinates feature at all

[merry pebble]

Not really

[mint pilot]

Damn

[gray sand]

In the eeeeeeend.
I kept everything inside (all the loot and collectables from every biome)
And even though I tried, it all fell apart
(When I ascend to Valhalla) what it meant to me will eventually be a memory...

😉

[merry pebble]

You can teleport to certain coordinates, or you can look at random map in seed viewer webside to get an idea tho since that has coordinates

[stray kestrel]

We explore strictly by vibes, not distance

[mint pilot]

If i explored by vibes, id stay inside away from all the bad vibes that every other biome radiates

[maiden tartan]

What’s y’all fav weapon type

I like atgeirs

[gray sand]

SPEAR (have to yell because muted)

[stray kestrel]

Clubs for sure

[maiden tartan]

Clubs seem to be very good for a very large portion of the game

[mint pilot]

I upgraded from a spear to that

[maiden tartan]

I don’t really see a good use for spears

[stray kestrel]

Atgeir is solid though, bows are good supplement to any melee as well

[gray sand]

Here we go...

[maiden tartan]

The wolf spear from mountains is very cheap tho

Props to it for that

[gray sand]

Crossbow 💪

[maiden tartan]

I find bows mandatory

[stray kestrel]

Crossbow?? Where do you get materials to make that?

[maiden tartan]

Mistlands

It’s called an arbalest

Very good if you didn’t bother to invest in bows perk

[gray sand]

Very good even if you did invest in bows.

[maiden tartan]

No need to worry about trajectory and damage is very nice too

[stray kestrel]

I only just navigated to make a temp base near Moder and was terrified of crossing into mistlands the whole time, will be a minute for me

[maiden tartan]

You shouldn’t really step into mistlands before defeating yagluth

You won’t see anything and that terrain can be horrific to navigate through

Very fun if ur a fan or rock climbing tho

[stray kestrel]

There is an unbelievable amount of game left for me to enjoy and I already have over 200 hours sunk lol

[stray kestrel]

I love rock climbing

[maiden tartan]

You’re gonna have a blast in the mistlands

[stray kestrel]

I try pretty hard not to spoil parts of the game I haven't been to, so while the terrain I've sailed past looks cool, I just worry that if I set foot there right now I'm going to get totally screwed

[maiden tartan]

You will

[stray kestrel]

Have no idea what's in store for me there

[maiden tartan]

Do not go to mistlands until you defeat yagluth

[stray kestrel]

Heard loud and clear hahah

[tacit crystal]

They are useful and very good early game weapons. Throw arc is straight, making it more reliable for range than 2 first bows in game.

[maiden tartan]

You can survive in pretty much every biome before killing the bosses of the previous biomes except for mistlands and biomes after mistlands

[stray kestrel]

That's actually a huge tip right there. Truly appreciate the heads up lol

[gray sand]

People have beaten the game in reverse, so every biome is possible at all stages.

[stray kestrel]

Masochism truly knows no bounds

[maiden tartan]

You know what kind of people are truly masochistic?

The kind of people who craft bronze arrows

Scary people

I can’t possibly imagine crafting bronze arrows

What’s y’all least favourite part of the progression

So far it’s been the Bronze Age for me

[stray kestrel]

Swamp

[tranquil verge]

I feel like the least favorite part is getting hit with a wolf raid in the midst of the plains

[maiden tartan]

I got pretty lucky and found a swamp with like 20+ crypts and a Bonemass spawner in it so

[glad night]

You got Calvin with ya?
-# epic name btw

[stray kestrel]

Honestly if I'm about to fight Moder, and mostly moved past the earlier biomes, I know the metals are still valuable. Between bronze, iron, and silver what's the most worth collecting going into mid/late game?

[gray sand]

-# Standard Fable enemy 😉

[gray sand]

You never stop needing iron.

[maiden tartan]

The only really annoying part I find about the swamp are the ghosts and abominations

[stray kestrel]

Tysm lol, my sister has always been Calvin, and when we played any duo game like Heavy Medic in tf2, we would show up as Calvin + Hobbes in a killfeed

[maiden tartan]

Iron

[glad night]

💪

[maiden tartan]

You need like a bit of bronze later on I think

But you will be needing iron

There can never be enough iron

[stray kestrel]

So literally always iron, maybe some more bronze? That's crazy to me that I will need to spend so much time in the swamp, I hate that biome with a passion

[maiden tartan]

Tbf with gear from other biomes swamps will be a cake walk

[steady rose]

Swamp is goated wdym

Root armor is my favorite so I always farm Obamas

[maiden tartan]

One thing about swamps

[stray kestrel]

True I'm geared out with max silver currently and swamp is easy at this point, but going into it at first has been my most painful valheim experience

[maiden tartan]

They seriously need to do something about surtlings

[steady rose]

Wym

[maiden tartan]

I don’t think that placing enemies made out of fire in the biome that’s like.. flooded with water… was a good idea…

[steady rose]

I love it

[gray sand]

Bronze and copper become building materials when you hit Mistlands.
Silver Sword is worth building if you have not. Otherwise, iron yes.

[maiden tartan]

They just keep dying because they step into the water

[stray kestrel]

I have a maxed frostner currently because I've been using clubs and maces this whole time, but could easily make a silver sword if you think I should respec?

[burnt ledge]

You could just have both plus max Frostner is very nice

[maiden tartan]

Frostner is very nice, actually

Has a good damage on its own, deals blunt damage (which is the best kind of non elemental damage, imo) and deals spirit damage

[stray kestrel]

Love the split damage types on it but I know won't be that useful against Moder so have a draugr bow as well

Blunt frost and spirit yes

[burnt ledge]

Draugr Fang is nice I love the visual look of it

[maiden tartan]

As I said, I find bows mandatory

Nice ambush damage and really makes your life easier against certain enemies

[scenic marlin]

Weird I thought I joined this discord in 2021. Did the old one get shut down or something? Maybe I left it and forgot? lol anyways hi!

[maiden tartan]

Especially on mountains

[burnt ledge]

Maybe

Welcome tho

[burnt ledge]

I agree

[scenic marlin]

I was just going through all the servers I’m in and didn’t see the Valheim anymore, so had to rejoin

Thanks!

[maiden tartan]

Speaking of blunt damage

[burnt ledge]

I just did that actually too lol

[stray kestrel]

Without a bow drakes are the biggest annoyance possible

[gray sand]

Not as much about "respec" as it is that Silver Sword is BiS vs. Yagluth and has really good value for first contact in Ashlands.

[maiden tartan]

It just kinda sweeps through most of the game

[scenic marlin]

Wonder if they kick people who haven’t been active or something I dk lol

[maiden tartan]

Blunt is nice

[gray sand]

Spear 😉

[maiden tartan]

Nah, I am still here

[stray kestrel]

Makes a lot of sense actually, will likely be making a sword soon lol I have so much silver

[burnt ledge]

I mean I’ve been in here for literally a year and just a few minutes ago is when I first typed so nahhh haha

[scenic marlin]

Oh ok. Weird. Maybe I left it for some reason.

[burnt ledge]

Can you not make a Black Metal sword yet or you can but it’s not BiS?

[scenic marlin]

I came back to ask about some things. I haven’t played in a year and am finally playing again

[gray sand]

Also clubs are usually the standard beginner weapon. When you hit Plains and get into blackmetal, highly encouraged to try out all the different types just to see if you like any of the other flavors.

[scenic marlin]

I’m surprised they still have added QOL features people keep asking for though

[gray sand]

?

[maiden tartan]

And I still wonder why atgeir’s heavy attack deals pierce

[burnt ledge]

Did you see the newest update?

[stray kestrel]

I have only collected a little bit of black metal but haven't tried to figure out how to smelt it

[maiden tartan]

[scenic marlin]

Yes

[burnt ledge]

Ooo I will let u figure that out since it’s ur first play through

[burnt ledge]

Thoughts on it¿?

[gray sand]

You can but Silver is still BiS specifically vs. Yagluth.

[maiden tartan]

It pains me because atgeirs are my fav weapons and pierce damage is pretty bad

[stray kestrel]

Yes all good lol I'm waiting to fight Moder then will bring it all back to base and see

[gray sand]

Pierce damage is not bad...

[burnt ledge]

What is the reason for it I forgot if Silver has anything special I haven’t played recently either

[gray sand]

Spirit Damage.

[maiden tartan]

So much things resistant to pierce

[scenic marlin]

I’m mostly talking about adding the option to drop nothing on death and then adding a hud/UI thingy for armor instead of it just being highlighted in your inventory.

[burnt ledge]

Oh it has Spirit Damage right

[gray sand]

Doubt they will ever add the first and I don't fully understand your meaning on the second.

[maiden tartan]

To be fair, they would have to take away your inventory slots if they make a separate tab for armors

[scenic marlin]

I like all the new stuff. It’s awesome

[maiden tartan]

The game’s inventory is based around you managing the resources you collect and the gear you bring

[scenic marlin]

Why would they have to take inventory slots away just to add an armor slot UI thingy?

[maiden tartan]

This

Armor and weapons became a part of inventory management at this point

[gray sand]

What do you mean "armor ui thing" ?

[scenic marlin]

I dk why they wouldn’t make it an option. Loads of players want it, let people play how they want. And the second part was, like most games, have a separate window where you equip armor. I thought that would have been added by now too

[maiden tartan]

And I don’t think they are planning on changing it

[gray sand]

Are you meaning like have equipped armor not take up slots?

[maiden tartan]

Ima be fair, if someone really wants that, there are mods for it

[scenic marlin]

Like what most games have, an armor slot window thing

[burnt ledge]

Like a different slot for armors like in most RPG games

[maiden tartan]

Not the best solution but it’s still there

[burnt ledge]

Right?

[scenic marlin]

Right. Instead of taking up inventory slots, there is a seperate window with armor slots

[scenic marlin]

Wait there are?!

[twin galleon]

Would be nice

[scenic marlin]

If there are mods that add it then nvm lol

[gray sand]

Yeah, contrary to what Razu is spewing -- they very much ARE considering changing it.

They had an entire feedback post solely dedicated to inventory changes in 1.0

[maiden tartan]

thunderstore.com, they got a nifty mod manager called r2modman that allows you to mod the game very easily

[burnt ledge]

I wonder when 1.0 is potentially coming out

[scenic marlin]

Those 2 things have been requested since I started playing the game in 2021ish. I’m just surprised it isn’t in the game yet is all

[maiden tartan]

I don’t think we have a release date but I am hoping it will be around the middle of 2026

[burnt ledge]

I figured something like that too

[maiden tartan]

But better not get our hopes up

[gray sand]

Priorities.
Also prior to the very latest update, inventory was purely a "skill issue" if people had problems with it. So no need to expand it at all.
But now it is a relevant talking point, so they are looking to change it.

[scenic marlin]

Maybe these things will be included in a 1.0 release. I know so many people stop playing or don’t recommend the game to their friends because of the missing QOL features such as those two things I mentioned above.

[gray sand]

Most likely we get armor, trinket, equipment, cape moved out. Giving you a total of 6 slots back.

Some people want backpacks adding multiple rows of inventory... and just... plz never.

[scenic marlin]

I don’t have a problem with the inventory in general, just the armor being equipped in the inventory screen instead of having its own window throws me a bit

[burnt ledge]

That would be really nice if it is, hoping it’s added with ya on that one

[gray sand]

Valid.
And what you're looking for is honestly the most likely thing to be added in 1.0

[maiden tartan]

I hope they do something about the cart getting stuck on a rock a size of a singular cell in 1.0

Carts are so frustrating to operate

They flop around, they get stuck

[scenic marlin]

Really hope so. Game would be much better if those two things were implemented

Or at the very least make it an option

[gray sand]

Still highly doubt the zero death penalty is coming 🤷‍♂️

[scenic marlin]

Like a custom world option or something

[burnt ledge]

I think there’s a chance

[scenic marlin]

Wouldn’t it be easy to add it to the slider though?

[maiden tartan]

I have no idea on how they could fix it but I hope they do

[gray sand]

World sliders go from complete death penalty to minimal.
If they wanted zero penalty, they would have put it on there.

[scenic marlin]

Yeah

I’m surprised they haven’t with how many people want it and how many people stop playing because of that small thing lol

[gray sand]

I mean

[scenic marlin]

If it’s a mod then eh that’s fine

[maiden tartan]

Teleporting animals would be cool

[burnt ledge]

Ooooh yessss

[scenic marlin]

Oh yeah

[maiden tartan]

It could be implemented through a portal slider

[scenic marlin]

Yes

[gray sand]

You do have to draw lines at some point.
Making your game "for everyone" instead of "the way you envision it" is how so, so many games are just copy/paste shit in the current market.

[burnt ledge]

Wolves were such a pain to bring to my home ;-;

[maiden tartan]

Or even make a separate portal

[maiden tartan]

Loxes

[gray sand]

Lox*

[burnt ledge]

Oh god hahaha

[scenic marlin]

Or just make it a custom world option for those who want it. Especially for people who like to RP

[maiden tartan]

I really want lox carts but people seem to dislike my idea

[gray sand]

How many custom world options until your game is no longer your game and is simply "Gary's Mod - Viking Skin"?

[maiden tartan]

I hope someone mods it in one day

[burnt ledge]

That would be massive

[maiden tartan]

Holdor already has it

[burnt ledge]

You should do it lowkey…

[scenic marlin]

I personally don’t RP, but I’ve seen a lot of forums of people complaining about dying while RPing and losing all their important stuff very far away and then rage quitting lol

[maiden tartan]

One thing you gotta do is store some iron/copper nails in your base so you can sail back to your stuff

[gray sand]

(Not at you directly) If you're legit raging over things you can simply spawn back for yourself... Plz talk to someone.

[scenic marlin]

I don’t think I’ve ever rage quit before

[burnt ledge]

🧢

[maiden tartan]

There were a few times where I had to take a break from dying far away

[gray sand]

Also, pro tip: Don't die. 😉

[maiden tartan]

I did join the game later and got my stuff back legit way

[scenic marlin]

Rage quit to me is the equivalent of throwing your controller across the room and shutting off the game lol. Yeah I’m too old for that ish

I just cheat at that point haha

[burnt ledge]

Too old?

[gray sand]

I would probably tweak my arm for multiple days if I attempted to throw a controller with any amount of force 😄

[scenic marlin]

Ill just use console commands instead

[burnt ledge]

That’s what most should do although some people don’t even know you can just do that sadly

[maiden tartan]

Getting ur stuff back from swamps and plains can be hellish

[scenic marlin]

Ghost mode has saved me so many times

[maiden tartan]

Fist fighting 5 mosquitoes for my stuff

[gray sand]

Eh. Eikthyr makes gear retrieval simple.

[burnt ledge]

I’m remembering dying so many times in the swamp to a 2 Star Draugr Elite on my first run very fun, smile

[gray sand]

Sprint in, grab, sprint out.

[scenic marlin]

But like, that time could be saved if they just made it an option to not lose anything too. Like what Enshrouded does

[scenic marlin]

Exactly

[wintry valve]

Sky biome when?

[broken sluice]

maybe an item like you can get in dark souls would be nice, sacrifical ring or something

[maiden tartan]

Alr gn guys

[scenic marlin]

That would be cool

[scenic marlin]

Gn

[wintry valve]

Launch boat with catapult

[gray sand]

Originally had zero sliders.
People wanted sliders.
They added sliders and basically said "if these aren't good enough for you, mod."
Which I see as a very good compromise that they in no way were obligated to offer. 🤷‍♂️

[wintry valve]

Sliders for what?

[gray sand]

World options?

[burnt ledge]

World Modifiers

[wintry valve]

Why did people want sliders?

[scenic marlin]

Yes but why add sliders at all if it still doesn’t offer what many are wanting? Ahhh

[burnt ledge]

Feedback and complaints, more customization etc

[scenic marlin]

Don’t lose equipped items is helpful but certain circumstances I can see even that not working out for some

[gray sand]

I think they offered what most were wanting.
And there's just a vocal amount who appear to be "many" remaining.

[wintry valve]

Most of what the sliders do are group of toggles. It literally removed customisations.

I assume these options werent there before, I suppose.

[scenic marlin]

Nope

[gray sand]

If you have a million+ players and you get it down to where a couple thousand have an issue, you done good son.

[burnt ledge]

For awhile they weren’t

[scenic marlin]

This is true

Pretty sure most of those millions don’t play anymore though

Flood back at release though

[gray sand]

It's also like I said, how much can you compromise for any one group until your game isn't your game anymore?

[scenic marlin]

Which makes sense

[broken sluice]

last time i played this game was back in 2022 and i think its gotten a lot better, i've put in about 40 hours in a few weeks

[burnt ledge]

Truth nuke

[scenic marlin]

How would it not be your game when adding options for players? Let the player who bought the game play said game how they want, ya know.

[gray sand]

We're gonna need you to put in 40 hours per day sir!

[scenic marlin]

Might as well not even offer mod support or cheats either

[scenic marlin]

Oh yeah definitely a lot better

[broken sluice]

I'll let my boss know right away

[wintry valve]

The game should be tailored to my tastes

make it 20% more anime

[scenic marlin]

This whole convo started because I came back to the game after a year hiatus and was just saying how I was surprised the two main things people ask for still weren’t implemented yet. However 1.0 could be the cherry on top

[burnt ledge]

add big chungus

[gray sand]

I feel we have perspectives that are too different to reach an eyeline on this topic.
Because I do understand accessibility as far as adding options for people with disabilities, colorblindness, phobias, etc. --- but outside of that, I personally see every additional "option to change" as a dilution of what your original vision was. Meaning the more you add, the less identity of your game remains.
Whereas you see it from an opposing (while still entirely valid) side of more options = better.

You are not in any way wrong - do not think I believe that or am saying that.
I just do not agree with your position, personally. 💛

[scenic marlin]

Definitely. The core of the game is still the same. It’s still the devs vision in the grand scheme of things. Adding a small option that allows players not to lose anything on death I don’t think is a huge deal at all though.

[scenic marlin]

That’s fair. Thank you for hearing..seeing? Me out lol

[burnt ledge]

https://tenor.com/view/map-patrick-sponge-bob-gif-5588765

[gray sand]

If a punishment for dying is part of the vision of the game, that would be "core game" imo.
So an option to remove part of the core... you can see how there are 2 sides to this 😄

[gray sand]

I am always willing to hear/read people out.

[broken sluice]

personally i think being to make an item that does that would be optimal, and would fit with the general tone

[fossil delta]

They took it down to 1% from 5%. That is much better when you have your skills close to 100 on a regular basis.

[burnt ledge]

Wow

[fossil delta]

Its a world setting, default is still 5%.

[burnt ledge]

Yeee I gotchu

[scenic marlin]

Not to remove. Just some players use the options and some players don’t. Or maybe one playthrough you keep it on and the next playthrough once you’ve gotten used to the game a bit, you turn it off. I just don’t see everything as black and white or one extreme for the other extreme.

[gray sand]

Yeah, Zara is speaking to wanting to keep all inventory on death. Not just equipped.

[gray sand]

I am cursed with not seeing things in degrees of severity. 😭

[scenic marlin]

lol

[fossil delta]

Don't we keep most of our gear upon death? Been a while since I last died on the low setting.

[gray sand]

On the lowest setting you keep all equipped items.
Armor, weapon/shield/arrows, equipment, trinket.
"Held" inventory is still dropped.

[fossil delta]

Thats a heck of a lot better than being naked. 😄

[gray sand]

Which is still like... just don't die 😈 😉

😏

[scenic marlin]

Indeed

[scenic marlin]

That’s the equivalent of telling someone not eat just because they don’t like a certain food item lol

[gray sand]

Just slam that:
F5
devcommands
god

Boom. Problem solved. ECKS DEE

[fossil delta]

That is preferred, but I can still do something stupid, etc...

[burnt ledge]

[scenic marlin]

Or the glitched enemy you can’t reach that keeps throwing things at you lol

[gray sand]

Um... you have no idea how truly I actually hold to this 😄
Pizza to me comes in 2 flavors. If I'm with people and they order outside of that, I legit don't eat until I get home 😂

[scenic marlin]

I had some star archer enemy stuck in a bone thing that I couldn’t kill. Luckily ghost mode saved me and I was able to retrieve my stuff and then finally kill him

[burnt ledge]

2 flavors?

[scenic marlin]

That’s super excessive lol

[gray sand]

Cheese
Ham + Pineapple

[scenic marlin]

Now I see why you think the way you do when it comes to options lol

[gray sand]

I did say I am cursed 😄

[scenic marlin]

Yep haha

[burnt ledge]

;-;

[scenic marlin]

To each their own but I don’t think it’s fair to try and control others though

[fossil delta]

Some of us have such ungodly hours playing this game that we rarely die. On the default setting, at least. Like I might die 8 times by the time I get to Ashlands. Then I start dying way more because I have yet to "master" that biome.

[gray sand]

Apparently restaurants have these things called "menus" that have more food options than the one I always order..
Idk. Seems weird to have more than the "best" food available.
😏 😄

[scenic marlin]

Like just because you feel some way doesn’t mean you should try and control others and dictate what they do. If someone wants an option they should be able to use it. If you don’t want it, simply don’t use the option ya know. Thats why it’s an option 😅

[gray sand]

Please point out where I am trying to control anyone? 😭
All I have stated is I find it unlikely they will add the no penalty change... that is not me saying they should or should not add it.

[scenic marlin]

That’s because your best isn’t everyone else’s best lol

[gray sand]

When did this turn from me understanding you into you seeing me as trying to control you??

[burnt ledge]

[scenic marlin]

Not talking about you just in general

[gray sand]

PLEASE clarify that in the beginning... 😭

[scenic marlin]

Calm down lol. I was speaking in general not at you specifically

[scenic marlin]

Sorry! 😞

[gray sand]

Because I can think of at least 10 people here who actually believe that about me and will now quote you the next time they think they have a point... 😭

[scenic marlin]

Lmao

If you did you’d be lying though since you took it out of context which I then corrected 😅

And also apologized lol

[rotund dust]

#screenshots When did these get added? Ive never seen one.

[scenic marlin]

I smell pickles

[gray sand]

Example conversation-
Me: 2+2 = 4
Them: NO IT DOESN'T.
Me: Well you're wrong 🤷‍♂️
Them: STOP TRYING TO DECLARE TRUTH LIKE YOU'RE ALWAYS THE ONLY RIGHT PERSON -- Here is someone else who also thinks this <link to you>

[scenic marlin]

Has anyone ever smelled something random even though it’s not around you?

[burnt ledge]

sometimes

[gray sand]

We are good now that I understand.
I was genuinely worried/lost for a moment having no idea where the turn happened.

[gray sand]

Brains are weird and fire random smells/sounds sometimes. 😬

[scenic marlin]

Added what?

[gray sand]

In this update.

[rotund dust]

Its a pre built arena type structure, with a skeleton spawner in the middle.

[burnt ledge]

Yeah I really hate when I hear a Fuling out of nowhere sometimes

[chrome badge]

With the latest update 👍

[scenic marlin]

If that’s about me I’m confused lol

[fossil delta]

Most of the time I don't agree with Sev, but he is very helpful, and very accurate when he is being helpful. Since he can't make me play the way he would prefer, any more than he can look at the game the same way I do... we get along? I guess. We seem to, anyways.

[gray sand]

No, that is about the people who would take what you said in a general sense and think it is about me, specifically. Because they do believe that about me, specifically. 😭

[burnt ledge]

lol

[scenic marlin]

I see I see

[gray sand]

My sole issue with you is that sometimes you use words that already have meaning to mean other things and it leads to confusion 😄

[burnt ledge]

[scenic marlin]

Confusion

[fossil delta]

First rule of the internet, don't give a crap about what people you don't even know think about you.

[scenic marlin]

Yes

About YOU

[rotund dust]

Just apply this to life, and even if you do know them, don't give a crap either 😂

[scenic marlin]

I’m a people pleaser so I’m just nice to everyone until they are mean to me for no reason then my small but mighty self snaps back with force

[fossil delta]

I do. I only really care about what my wife and kids think about me. Maybe even my dad. Some times. 😄

[gray sand]

Earlier today he had me lost thinking there was an actual Adrenaline (word that means specific resource in Valheim) Mead when he was actually talking about Stamina (word that means completely different resource in Valheim).
Was perfectly fine once context was cleared up, but for a couple minutes there none of us knew what was going on.

[scenic marlin]

There ya go! Lol

[broken sluice]

i only care what the voices in my head think of me

[burnt ledge]

Wait facts

[scenic marlin]

Ooh yeah, I could see why there was a misunderstanding lol

[rotund dust]

ICE CREAM! (Make sure to read ice cream in a forest gump voice)

[scenic marlin]

That’s deep

[broken sluice]

im wide as an ocean, shallow as a puddle

[gray sand]

I had a friend who went to therapy for "hearing voices" and it turned out to be... just the normal internal monologue that every human being has...

😭

[burnt ledge]

[scenic marlin]

LOL omg

[broken sluice]

there are people who legitimately don't have an internal monologue, that's crazy to me

[gray sand]

Psycopaths 👀

[scenic marlin]

That sounds like something a toddler would be questioning

[fossil delta]

Yeah, something like 40% of people. Blew my mind.

[burnt ledge]

That’s crazy

[scenic marlin]

Since they don’t understand that concept

I sometimes wish I didn’t for certain things. Just give myself anxiety for no reason

[gray sand]

Maybe there is a limit on how many internal voices are allowed, so Odin takes them from some people so that others can have multiple voices in their heads? 👀

[scenic marlin]

Ok imma log now. This has been fun lol good night/morning/afternoon guyses

[burnt ledge]

gn

[gray sand]

My internal is the opposite of anxiety. Literal devil on the shoulder saying "DO IIIIITTT" to everything 😂

[fossil delta]

I used to have a lot of voices in my head. Then I figured out they were all me. Personalities I had created when I was very young. So I consolidated them all into just me.

[gray sand]

I used to have a lot of voices in my head.
Then I took an arrow to the knee.

[rotund dust]

Fun fact, if you take medication, it keeps the voices at bay, and you no longer feel emotion.

[fossil delta]

I took meds like that, for different reasons. They gave me some useful help that I needed at that time.

Not something I want to do for a long period of time. A few months was enough.

[wintry valve]

Are we limited to three skeletts as of now? I thought we could have four.

[gray sand]

I believe it is 3 + trolls.

[wintry valve]

and the troll is a loyal friend, right?

[gray sand]

iirc they are a neutral "attack everything" summon.

Only thing they don't kill is the second summoned troll.

[fossil delta]

Yeah, the trolls will kill you if you don't keep enemies between you and them, or stay far away from them.

[twin galleon]

So I was walking through the woods and seen a hooded figure. Scared the ever loving poop outta me. Thought it was ole Grim himself

[civic anchor]

who wants to start a new world with me

[gray sand]

#1024264966712340510

[gray sand]

That's Odin keeping an eye on you.

[civic anchor]

thanks

[twin galleon]

Well Odin needs to at least give me a warning next time

Cuz good lord that scared me😂

[civic anchor]

i once saw a 2 star troll stareing at me through some trees day 3

bought gave me a stroke

[twin galleon]

Dude them Trolls don’t play. I see one I go the other idc how long it takes I go

[civic anchor]

https://tenor.com/view/squidward-valheim-the-forest-the-forest-is-moving-raid-gif-27317778

every time i go in there

[wintry valve]

The trick with 2 star trolls is to kill them

[twin galleon]

😂

[civic anchor]

dog i get close and i get turned into atoms

[wintry valve]

Thats because you arent killing them

[twin galleon]

Wait until the Swamp Fog rolls in thinks that’s what it’s called

[civic anchor]

dog the old roots in the swamp

[twin galleon]

Happened to me the other day and boom killed by a Draugr arrow. Ran around naked for a few minutes but I hightailed it outta there

Old Roots are the giant spider things right?

[civic anchor]

yeah and i shit myself everytime i see one

mainly cuase the come up right below me

[twin galleon]

One made its way across the ocean to the Black Forest I was in idk how.

I ran into two of them earlier tonight

[cobalt canyon]

They give lootsies though

[twin galleon]

What kind of loostsies

[cobalt canyon]

Special lootsies

[twin galleon]

Idk how to make mead and yes folks I’m a noob at that stuff

I see big scary monster I go the other way

[gray sand]

Mead Ketil is where you make the bases. Fermenters are where you... ferment it.

[wintry valve]

The trick with abominations is to kill them

[cobalt canyon]

I like barbecue over a surtling flame

[gray sand]

This is the time where you can do like half their HP if you are quick enough.

[twin galleon]

I have the mead ketil just not the fermenter. Have to work on that soon enough

[gray sand]

Bronze and a decent chunk of finewood needed.

[civic anchor]

where do i go to get white listed

[gray sand]

For?

[twin galleon]

I need more copper then lol I’ll get started tomorrow

[civic anchor]

the offical server i think

[cobalt canyon]

No such thing

[civic anchor]

damn

[gray sand]

There is no official server(s).

[civic anchor]

nevermind

[gray sand]

Would be weird trying to fit hundreds of thousands of people into an "official" server when the population cap for servers is.. 10.

[cobalt canyon]

You can cram 100

[gray sand]

Only if you modify.

[twin galleon]

Imagine having a 100 players the game would explode

[deft blaze]

Which bow do people consider the best?

[gray sand]

Best is subjecthive.

If I, personally, had to pick one: Root Fang.

[deft blaze]

I agree, I'm wondering what the norm is and what you all think

[gray sand]

There genuinely is no "norm" in this context.

Every bow is better than the previous until you hit Ashlands, where you then have 3 options.

[cobalt canyon]

The huntsman does have a gimmick though

Silent

[gray sand]

Most people are going to pick either Storm Fang or Root Fang.
But there is no "this one is better than the other" as they do different things.

[wintry valve]

I prefer normal ashfang because higher durability. Bows attack fast and deplete fast.

[gray sand]

They all have 100/150/200/250 durability.

[wintry valve]

yeah but storm fang is limited to level 2, thus 150

[deft blaze]

None of the bows through mistlands have felt worth it since finewood
The damage increase is tiny and I can aim around the distance/velocity loss
Being able to shoot while running/jumping with the small stamina cost has been way too good
I'm really hoping the ashlands bows are compelling

[wintry valve]

ash fang can reach level 3, which is two full stacks of arrows

[gray sand]

Draugr Fang poisoning people wasn't an upgrade for you?

[wintry valve]

Finewood bow can indeed get you far, but lemme tell you, the huntsman bow is noticeably better.

[deft blaze]

That's so little damage that 1 extra arrow is always better

[gray sand]

Unless you're completely bottoming out your stamina bar (in which case-- why?) idk where you're getting 1 more arrow from?

[wintry valve]

also draugr fang is better for long range, which is moot if your aim is good

[deft blaze]

Well it's way more than 1 extra, finewood is 3/5 the stamina cost

[gray sand]

Rank 4 Finewood: 41 Pierce
Rank 4 Draugr: 56 Pierce, 20 Poison

🤷‍♂️

[wintry valve]

stamina becomes much less an issue as your bow skill increases

What does become an issue is the time it takes to kill your target. Like I said, finewood can do fine. Better bows does better.

[gray sand]

Yeah.. Fine -> Huntsman with decent skill level is only about 2 more stamina per shot, which is... nothing.
And Huntsman has a ridiculously small noise radius.

Draugr is another +2 but adds the 20 poison damage.

[wintry valve]

wait, huntsman does affect noise?

[gray sand]

Ash is legit going to cost you 8 more stamina per shot, so if stamina is the sole thing you care about.. you will never stop using Finewood.

[cobalt canyon]

Supposedly you can clear a fuling camp with a huntsman without any alerts

[gray sand]

Yes. Normal bows have 15m noise where the arrow impacts.
Huntsman is 4m.

[wintry valve]

Its so weird, yesterday I was thinking of suggesting that the hunter's bow did less noise because its legit something that hunting bows have to do in real life.

Unrelatedly, I discovered that ice drakes are immune to ice. Go figure

[vocal plume]

Oooh ill have to reconsider upgrading to spinesnap or whatnot

[wintry valve]

spinesnap is awesome

[gray sand]

@deft blaze out of curiousity -- what's your food?

[vocal plume]

Im still using draugr fang mainly

[wintry valve]

but you gotta have a high bow skill to use it "properly"

[gray sand]

Spinesnap is definitely my favorite looking bow in addition to just being awesome.

[vocal plume]

Training skills takes 9.5 years... Which is a bummer

[gray sand]

?

[wintry valve]

When I mean high bow skill I mean about 40~50

[gray sand]

Build like 4 Crude Bows.
Build 300-400 wood arrows.
Summon Bonemass.
Spam, do not spend any time drawing, just click-shoot on repeat.
Swap bows when one breaks until all broken.
Use best mace to nuke the Mass.
Repeat until at desired skill level.

[wintry valve]

of course its mostly up to you to decide if it works out for you

I just felt that when I made spinesnap, I felt it depleted my stamina too quickly

Now I no longer have issues with it.

[gray sand]

Snap definitely makes you feel it in the stam-per-second on draw, so you need the higher skill to make your draw speed fast enough that you don't have issues.

[wintry valve]

Vinny now has 21 in blood magic. Fear him.

[gray sand]

👀

I must not fear, fear is the mindkiller.

[wintry valve]

You must fear, not fearing is the bodykiller.

[deft blaze]

2 stam 1 eitr, mistlands tier
This is my first run and I'm playing no map, no portal without looking stuff up (I don't know what the ashlands bows do and I don't want to)
So I really value stamina and being able to get away. It seems like half or more of my bow damage comes from arrows anyway, so paying 66% more stamina from finewood to draugr (6/s -> 10/s), for 29% more damage (finewood + frost = 119 -> draugr + frost = 154) doesn't seem worth it to me. Especially because so many enemies have been immune to poison
I've actually tried them all out for hundreds of days and gone back to finewood every time

[gray sand]

I have multiple questions...

[deft blaze]

Like what?

[gray sand]

eitr implies mage.
If mage, why only 1 eitr food?
If mage, why bow?
If not mage, why eitr food?

[wintry valve]

You can use the bubble thing even if you arent a pure mage

[gray sand]

Can =/= Should 🤷‍♂️

[wintry valve]

Oh, you should if you can. Im using it right now and its pretty sweet.

[deft blaze]

Mage weapon and bow use entirely separate resource systems so why not do both?

Fire staff is really nice aoe (and different type of damage for resistant enemies), bow doesn't have any aoe

1 food is enough to lob a few fireballs to kill a pack of ticks or whatever

[gray sand]

(The way you are currently playing is entirely valid and I am in no way attempting to tell you how to play)

You will get higher numbers if you fully commit to mage and run either EEF or EES.
You will also get higher numbers if you're purely a bow person by just committing to SSS, giving you the highest stamina bar possible.

[wintry valve]

This being said, im running three eitr food right now and I dont think its that smart.

[deft blaze]

I don't care what the numbers are, I'm trying to survive and kill stuff

[wintry valve]

I did that with the assumption that more eitr meant faster regen but its not really the case.

[gray sand]

I find that position to be in conflict, as better numbers will increase survivability by itself and via making you kill stuff faster.

Not caring about numbers "because what I am doing works for me" is something I can completely understand and support though.

[deft blaze]

You can run and shoot the fire staff at the same time, and it doesn't use stamina, it's a really good way to kite enemies if you get into a bad situation

[wintry valve]

as for bows, as your skill increases, you should consider using more advanced bows. It doesnt really matter if the stamina cost isnt "worth" the damage. If you leave a battle with lots of leftover stamina, you could have used a better bow to kill your enemies faster.

[gray sand]

As I said previously, if stamina is all you care about, you will never switch from Finewood.
Finewood drains 6/s, Ash Fang and variants drain 14/s.

[wintry valve]

keep in mind that better bows also do stuff like arrow velocity, knockback, and stagger. It aint just better damage.

[deft blaze]

It's obviously not all I care about, otherwise I'd be using crude

[wintry valve]

You can easily stun, say, a seeker with huntsman bow. You probably can with a finewood but it requires more work.

[deft blaze]

Stagger is a good point, but I never found the bows do enough to stagger the same-tier enemies
I just think the small damage increase for the huge stamina cost isn't worth it, especially when I'm not hurting for damage in the first place

[wintry valve]

Well, like I said, finewood bow works fine for a long time. I remember killing loxes with it.

[gray sand]

This all rounds back to why I say "best is subjecthive."
Because your approach to bows is extremely rare. And why I encourage people to make their own decisions about what is "best" -- because your way WORKS for you, and swapping to what is "best" for someone else would make your experience worse.

[deft blaze]

Right, I knew that from the start, I was wondering what people thought and looking to have this conversation. It sounds like most people use same-tier bows, that's what I expected

[wintry valve]

best is whatever I use

observable fact

[gray sand]

I would say most commonly Huntsman actually gets skipped (unfortunately) because Finewood carries to Draugr Fang.
How many people use Spinesnap is harder to gauge because that's also when you get the Arbalest.

[deft blaze]

I run, jump, climb things, float around and loot stuff, shooting arrows the entire time and it's great. The cheap bow makes it really possible to stay alive while doing it
The firestaff comes out when I'm low on stamina, fireballs while it regens and never stop moving

[gray sand]

It's odd that spending stamina blocks eitr regen but spending eitr doesn't block stamina regen.

[deft blaze]

That's most of the reason I did 1 eitr, it felt like almost free damage/attacks

I think the queen would have been so hard with just arrows, or the expensive bow

Maybe I just need to man up and die a few times learning the boss attack patterns

[gray sand]

Queen in melee is so easy on this patch tbh.

[deft blaze]

Melee feels like a trap on bosses

[gray sand]

Melee is the fastest way to kill all bosses.

[deft blaze]

I'll give it a try when I'm back over there

[gray sand]

Building is technically the fastest way to kill the first 2.
Then melee for the rest.

[deft blaze]

I also do bottom out my stamina, but only when my stamina potion is off cooldown, but it's always ready by time I have another emergency

[gray sand]

May I interest you in the best stamina potion in the game? -- Tasty Mead.

[deft blaze]

I tried it and was very underwhelmed, how much stamina do you actually get out of one use?

[gray sand]

More than a full stamina bar.

[deft blaze]

But only if I stop using stamina for 10 seconds?

[gray sand]

You have to run without sprinting or rolling while it works because it is a massive regen buff.
With zero cooldown.
That stacks with Lingering instead of being blocked by it.

[deft blaze]

I feel like that'll get me killed instead of saving me

[gray sand]

Shouldn't need the full 10s to refill tbh.
Usually takes only like 5-6.
So it's something you pop, roll away to create distance, walk for a couple seconds, roll again if needed, walk for a couple more seconds - full stamina bar.

[deft blaze]

Doesn't rolling cost stamina?

And stop you from regenerating?

[gray sand]

It is definitely something you have to know how to use properly, but once you get it down it is uncontested the best stamina pot.

[gray sand]

And?

You need to regenerate for 6s out of a 10s window.
If you roll once or twice in the middle of that you're still fine.

[deft blaze]

if my problem is that I want to run a long distance, I absolutely agree it's nice, and using lingering with it is best
but for me it's "I don't know how this enemy works, and I just got hit for half my life. I'm running and now out of stamina, and he's right on top of me"
I can't roll, because I'm out of stamina. And more regen won't help, because I need to run or roll. What really seems to help is getting half a stamina bar instantly

[fossil delta]

I am pleasantly surprised by how much silver my rather small starter mountain has. Plenty of wolves and golems too. I need to look around and see if it further surprises me with a cave.

[gray sand]

I would say you ran too far in that instance? Most every non-mage, non-boss enemy in the game has attacks that you can avoid by simply walking away from them steadily.

So you don't need that much separation to have a space where you can regen.

[deft blaze]

You said most, and if I don't know how this enemy works I'm going to put significant distance between us. I've seen what this game is willing to do

[fossil delta]

It definitely takes some practice to learn how much distance you need, etc...

But it does work. Most of the time.

[gray sand]

Outside of the dverger mages you have met, the only one catching you is Deathsquitos.

[deft blaze]

That's just not true

Seekers and lox catch up with 100 run and non-light armor

[fossil delta]

Growths can nail you. Plus groups make it harder, like fulings.

[fossil delta]

Lox never catch me, even with a lower run skill. Seekers kind of cheat, with their flying and the terrain. 😄

[wintry valve]

The trick with seekers is to kill them

[fossil delta]

Deathsquittos can attack, but they don't hit. Until you stop running.

[gray sand]

I could video spawning in enemies and walking away from them, but you have the way you play and again, I am not telling you to do anything different.

Enemies stop when they attack. So that's when you walk and they can't hit you. 🤷‍♂️

[fossil delta]

Golems have a bit of reach, so they are more tricky.

[gray sand]

Seekers vs. Morgen 👀

[wintry valve]

I also have a handy trick for morgens

[fossil delta]

The trick with anything is to kill it first. 😄 😄

[gray sand]

All non-trading Dverger must die!

[fossil delta]

It works pretty well for my wife. Its what her "savage aggression" amounts to. Killing them first.

She does not use shields, or dodge roll, she just attacks. It amazes me how little she dies, compared to what I expected, at least.

[deft blaze]

Stay I'm using 3x stamina food, best case scenario for tasty mead = 290 stamina
Stam potion = 160 instantly = + ~55% stamina bar instantly
Tasty mead = +100% regen = 145 (natural) + 145 (tasty mead) = + 50% stamina bar over 5-6 seconds with some finess and planning
It's worse in every single way

[fossil delta]

IIRC she has only died twice in our currant play through, and we are pretty much done with Mistlands.

[gray sand]

Sure 👍

[deft blaze]

I did the math, you can disagree all you want
It's been kinda clear that's your goal here

[gray sand]

I'm sorry, you did the math, completely leaving out the cooldown variable... which means your math is wrong.
But 👍

[deft blaze]

That's a good point I forgot about that

[wintry valve]

Sometime you gotta try things. Its not just about the math.

[deft blaze]

Like I said I have

You can use both at the same time

Tasty meads disappear chugging them, a 10 stack of potions lasts me a whole session and actually saves me. I've tried them

[wintry valve]

you know you can make more tasty meads, right?

[deft blaze]

Sure, yeah, I can get more materials, make more, and dedicate more inventory space
In order to use the one that gives less stamina, but is able to be used more often
when I already said the 2 minutes is often enough for me
you're right I could do that

And oh woops they're not on my bar anymore because I used the last one and need to get into my inventory while fighting

[wintry valve]

Vinny has made mistland and ashland feasts.

The mistland feasts were annoying to make.

[distant girder]

does hugin always show up in the bath once you make it?

[pearl hound]

in the hot tub?

[distant girder]

yeah

[pearl hound]

yes he does each fresh playthrough unless u turn off raven hints

[distant girder]

that's so cute

[pearl hound]

Hugin needs to stay clean to lol

[bleak hull]

Are there any Russian players? I'm writing in English because of the server rules. If anyone wants to play, write me a private message.

[distant girder]

#1024264966712340510 would be the place to look or post to find folks c:

[bleak hull]

@distant girder thank you

[distant girder]

sure thing

I mean my first thought was oh god that water gonna be oily as heck
but maybe viking fantasy purgatory tutorial birds aren't gonna make my bath water dirty

but then bird friend started kinda playing in the water and it was too cute to be mad

[steady rose]

Any new vanilla servers here? I made a post but I know not everyone posts an ad 🙂

[pearl hound]

i normally play when im home

[pearl hound]

absolutely

[spice drift]

I have a question about the devcommands. Does the setkey dungeonbuild work for xbox?

[silver vessel]

Why does the scaling in this game so great? Our group struggles also how big of a range is 80m or 100m whatever that distance iis?

[wintry valve]

I dont know how to answer either questions.

I dont know what you want to hear.