valheim-chat

[errant knoll]

And just building big things needing iron

[rugged bridge]

You're not the only one. I am a bit more chill towards using small amounts of iron in certain recipes, but it's overkill having it required for every other thing in the plains

[errant knoll]

And judt being wholly unprepared for how much iron I'd need lol

[tiny mortar]

I remember something like that being a thing for me ages ago.. might be misremembering or having a schizo moment but I really hope its like that

[reef juniper]

Humanoid mobs specifically

[rugged bridge]

Gonna have to sit down and debate this one

[reef juniper]

There's enough humanoid mobs throughout the game that it would be genuinely useful, but enough non-humanoid mobs that it isn't a stun all solution

[rugged bridge]

If you consider "humanoid" something similar or smaller sized than your character that walks on 2 legs, I guess sure

[reef juniper]

Charred enemies, Divergr, Grey enemies, etc

[jovial sleet]

Is there any loose ETA for the last update/biome to come out?
I haven't seen a road map in a while

[merry pebble]

#valheim-chat message here you go 😄

No we dont have a date nor estimation

[jovial sleet]

What is the combat update? Call to arms?

[merry pebble]

Yep

[jovial sleet]

What all does that entail, I only remember seeing dummies for target practice or something, is it a full combat rework?

And is there an ETA for call to arms to be done?

[merry pebble]

Now they are working on DN, and the only info we have is that they dont plan any updates for end of the year 🙂

[merry pebble]

It already is out

[jovial sleet]

What's DN

[merry pebble]

Deep North

[jovial sleet]

Oh deep north

The game already had a decent combat system, better than most games I've played.. which is kind of sad, honestly.

[merry pebble]

And now its better 😄

[jovial sleet]

How much did they change it, just how every weapon functions? Enemies attacks?

[merry pebble]

You are able to hit enemies above and below you way more consistently, dodge is now a skill and parrying/blocking has been tweeked and new adrenaline mechanic was added

Full patchnotes here 🙂 https://valheim.com/news/patch-0-221-4-call-to-arms/

[jovial sleet]

Ty

[jovial sleet]

Oh you mean it won't be out until next year? Damn

[merry pebble]

Most likely

[nimble adder]

will devs ever fix pathing issues with having small gaps and stuff in bridges, and how if you make a wall from the environment it makes raids easy?

feels like cheesing it

[merry pebble]

If you dont like it then dont do it 😄

[nimble adder]

well yeah, but

new players do it

and then less fun

[merry pebble]

If they are able to figure out how to use certain mechanics for their advantage then good for them really, i dont really see how taht would affect anyone but them

[shy marlin]

can the small fir trees in the black forest give fir saplings or is it only the large fully grown tir trees with the drop

[tacit crystal]

Iirc small firs also can drop saplings.

[lyric copper]

Am I missing something, or are the so-called "blob bombs" a noob trap? Why would you ever want to spend the significant resources it takes to make these things in order to summon a creature that's hostile to you, for the extremely marginal utility of throwing it into a pack of enemies that there are safer and less expensive ways to deal with?

Seriously, what is this team's fixation with creating items that have have monkey's paws that utterly undermine their value?

[gray sand]

Catspaw talking about Monkey Paws 😏

[lyric copper]

A cute play on words, but I fear it doesn't really address the issue.

[tacit crystal]

As most of them belong to undead faction they're hostile against other enemy mobs of opposing factions.
One example: Elite blob (aka oozer) bomb is very useful option for clearing frost caves as the residents there are weak against poison and oozers also resist their damage.

[lyric copper]

No, I get that part--that's why I talked about using them for dealing with a pack of enemies. I've tried what you describe, as well as other applications, e.g. frost blobs against Seekers and Charred (for slow).

Summoning an enemy that's hostile to you that may or may not succeed in taking out the things you brought it against seems like an expensive, RNG-dependent, and risky way to deal with enemies that you're going to be amply capable of dealing with by the time you can craft the thing. I see the intent, I just think it's a huge miss so far--especially the whole inappropriate nonsense of making your own summons hostile to you.

[errant knoll]

They also work as a decoy, if you just wanna quickly get away from a place.

Unfortunately this doesn't really work in the biome where said decoy would be most useful, since Ashlands enemies are allied to the undead faction.

Lava blob containers can be used to demolish stuff quickly for resources I guess?

Though it's not unique in being able to do that in the ashlands so it doesn't really have a niche still

[tacit crystal]

Well, they're optional and the trophies that usually are quite plentiful (at least the blob ones) get some use for some crafting recipes, which I think is nice.

[weary pollen]

Anyone here successfully modded a gportal server? Tried the method with filezilla and its making my server fail

[tacit crystal]

I'd ask around https://discord.com/channels/391142601740517377/1202934289898151966 👍

[jovial sleet]

My friend can't join my server for some reason, it's never even prompting a password, just fails to connect, any idea why?

[lyric copper]

Eh, I guess. I'm certainly glad they're finally adding uses for trophies for when I'm not running Epic Loot to use them up. I just wish the uses were... well, useful, instead of feeling like yet another deliberate monkey's paw to try to get players to be killed by their own items.

If the things weren't hostile to their own summoner, I'd actually embrace them as a way to summon a temporary pet while you go through an area, which would be balanced by the fact that it'd despawn when you leave.

[tacit crystal]

Do you feel the same about Trollstav?

[undone forum]

The only ones that I have found to be usefull are the lava ones, they at least blow up which makes mining pretty slick

[lyric copper]

Yes, but with some caveats--Trollstav at least has the redeeming value of being overwhelmingly powerful enough to have a niche use in Ashlands. But I still think it's a crap item that's buggy, unreliable, and has more downsides than it's worth 99% of the time.

At this point "ha ha the player's own thing is hostile to them" is a recurring-enough trope to feel intentional, and I think it's a trash mentality towards "balancing" items like these--especially a consumable.

[lyric copper]

Sure, but by the point where you can gain access to summon lava blobs, you already can or shortly will be able to make explosive payloads and the battering ram, which IMO are much better solutions for fast bulk mining.

[shy marlin]

how's trollstav buggy?

[tacit crystal]

They're disposable anyway, in whichever use they're needed, so I don't personally see issue with how they work.

But I see your point. 👍

[lyric copper]

Primarily because its summon has a tendency to wander off, get distracted by anything but the area I wanted it to focus on, gratuitously aggro things I didn't want it to, or gets stuck in terrain--and you can't just despawn them, so if you need to summon another in order to put it where you need it to be, you have to wait for another to die or wander far enough away to not count.

It's got pretty much all the downsides that a massive NPC "companion" could have, up to and including friendly fire.

[shy marlin]

I haven't encountered any of those issues 🤷

I think if you could just despawn the trolls at any moment in time it'd be absurdly op lol

[lyric copper]

Summoning a new one should automatically despawn the oldest. It's actually really weird that it doesn't work that way.

Having it do so would sidestep any concerns about letting the player despawn them at will, because they're ultimately just refreshing the "problem".

Not making it go away.

[shy marlin]

Ye I agree with that analysis

It's silly bcuz deadraiser has that same functionality but trollstav doesn't

[lyric copper]

Exactly, this is already established functionality.

But anyway, I think I've vented my spleen about game design for one day, time to get back to playing.

[errant knoll]

Tbf, The trolls summoned by trollstav are fairly simple kills, considering you're the one summoning it you should have a staff of frost on hand to smack it once it's no longer needed

I use it outside of the ashlands to mass-farm stones in the plains. Crash a troll into them, kill troll after, collect the stone.

[crimson fjord]

i just found 5 leviathans side by side

[mortal vapor]

That's some pretty goofy RNG

[reef juniper]

I love the Ashlands, also better known as Lagland

Yeah I think Ashlands is 100% the worst area so far

Cool looking but that's all I really like about it

[mortal vapor]

I hope Iron Gate is able to better optimize all of the stuff going on in the biome so it plays better

[fossil delta]

Huh. I have very little lag in Ashlands. Nice to know the cost of my PC is good for some things.

[neon steppe]

getting materials for basement, first floor and second floor got me 30 pickaxe levels

[fossil delta]

Nice.

[neon steppe]

still need to do thirdfloor and then all the furniture 😢

then i can go die all my level progress to gjalls

[fossil delta]

😆

Welcome to Valheim.

[neon steppe]

i'm scared about the roof, the build video kinda jumps alot of stuff and every technic is new to me

[plush ferry]

i would love a clutter/decoration update to make interiors really come to life in builds.

[neon steppe]

it takes me long time to figure out how to do some stuff that he shows

[neon steppe]

yeah decorations are underrated! makes bases cozy

[fossil delta]

That's why I was so lucky to have builders invite me to their world and show me.

[plush ferry]

The arhcitecture is fine but you end up w rooms stacked w chests or almost entirely empty

[neon steppe]

once i learn to be better builder and build my own design, im gonna have to hire some sims pro player to decorate it 😂

just gotta be careful they don't put me in a room with no doors.. 🚒

[plush ferry]

i want every item in game to become a plcable decor item

[chrome badge]

Having 20 years in house building and carpentry makes it easy to lose perspective on how complicated it is when starting out. 😅

[fossil delta]

We have plenty of foods, meads, furniture, curtains and carpets to decorate wi6now. My homes look nice.

[plush ferry]

ik theres the item stands but that doesnt allow for a lot of of situations, plus the stand really stands out

[neon steppe]

bear rug was nice addition

[fossil delta]

The bear rug is great. Love that we can sit on it.

[plush ferry]

not rly, we have it all jsut no nice way to display or have conbtrol over how its displayed besides the stands, i want free standing placeable items to really tweak how i want things to look

like i said all the architecture is fine, lots to play with and adjust to make work for you, but i want to interior design 🙁

[chrome badge]

Are you talking like... bookshelves/cabinets/side tables/etc.?

[fossil delta]

People have done mind blowing stuff for interior design. More effort than I want to put into it.

[neon steppe]

wish i could move my whole base 15 meters away from the sea, i built it bit too close if im ever gonna build a nice harbour/dock

[chrome badge]

Good news, you totally can 😄

[neon steppe]

i was excited but you are gonna say that i just need to destroy it and rebuild it?

😭

[chrome badge]

Your wish has come true

🎊

[fossil delta]

Raise earth can add a lot of land. Depending on how the slopes in the water are.

[neon steppe]

that would be torture

[fossil delta]

It is tedious.

[neon steppe]

oh i meant rebuilding would be torture! terraforming isn't too bad

let's say you dig a river next to your base, will it show in the map?

it bothers me when you axe down alot of trees in plains but they still show in map 🙁

[tepid prawn]

map will not be changed by player action at all

[fossil delta]

Yeah I did a canal once, had to put it on the map myself.

[neon steppe]

i'm gonna terraform the coastline bit bigger but not too much then, thanks for the idea 👍

[fossil delta]

People do entire islands, some shore line won't be too bad.

[crimson fjord]

to my knowledge thats 1/10 billion

[ebon oyster]

Guys. I wanna say it but I dont wanna jynx it... my first 2 bear kills this game i got trophies 👀

I made the helmet. Not sure if I should make the rug or the amulet

[gray sand]

Is it Bronze Amulet?

If so, very much amulet.

[undone forum]

True

[plush ferry]

drip is eternal, amulets are not

[vast wren]

There are mods that let you copy and paste a build as needed

[lyric shale]

Is there a way to prevent other players from interacting with my builds? My friend finds it funny to break down my house walls and I'm getting tired of rebuilding them

[gray sand]

Kick him off your server.

[lyric shale]

But he's my meatshield for the boss fights 💔

Does the ward prevent him from breaking stuff

[gray sand]

You need better friends 🤷‍♂️

[neon steppe]

go break his stuff and see if he still thinks it's funny

[lyric shale]

Im gonna steal back the shield generator I placed at his house

[solemn dune]

wait why does sitting in a hot tub only give me 1 comfort...

[gray sand]

Is the fire in the tub going?

[fossil delta]

Pretty sure you lose both levels without the fire.

More likely something else is not within range when your in the tub.

Like a carpet/rug.

Or banner.

[solemn dune]

yeah you can't be rested if its not lit. But its 1 inside even though if i am outside the tub its 13

there are definitely things in range

[fossil delta]

Your losing 12 points of CL?

[reef juniper]

I think whoever told me that fishing in this game is easy / incredibly simple might've been tripping a bit lol

Me and my friend are struggling to even figure out how you're meant to do it

[fossil delta]

Like many things, it's easy once you figure it out.

[reef juniper]

Like should I be trying to walk the fish like a dog onto the land? Reeling it in normally sure doesn't seem to work considering it doesn't leave the water and you can't grab them while they're in it

[fossil delta]

Youdepress the right mouse button until they are out of the water.

Then you can grab them with e, or, if your stamina is good, reel them in entirely.

You can also try dragging them on to land but I don't do that.

I like to fish from boats
Preferably the Karve.

[timid furnace]

hi

https://tenor.com/view/pikachu-detective-please-lmao-lol-gif-13607078

[reef juniper]

Why do world saves annihilate my frames so ungodly hard

[fossil delta]

Because saves are a moment in time. So your world kind of freezes in place for that moment. It's why we get the warning.

[reef juniper]

I desperately wish there was an item filter for auto pickup

[fossil delta]

Is this already in suggestions? I'd guess it is...

[reef juniper]

It's kinda wild to me how many incredibly simple yet huge additions I've been able to come up with while playing this game

It makes me wonder how much thought / playtesting is actually going into this stuff

[barren whale]

there's numerous mods that do this
ideas are cheap

[fossil delta]

Making a working game that millions play is the real trick.

[distant girder]

so I was telling my friend who is new to the game how to bury a workbench and not have it break
and the word I was looking for was "anchor" but what came out was "snorkel" so that's now a thing

[merry pebble]

Are you doing it so you can build everywhere or for spawnproofing?

[agile star]

So I just killed bonemass and I gotta say, the bear armor set impressed me. The initial stages of the swamp were a piece of cake and the boss fight was amazing. That extra 15% stamina regen you gain is very noticeable and helps a lot during fights or just doing anything in general. Even going into the mountains I still prefer the full bear armor set, the 25% extra damage you take it barely noticeable if you parry and/or dodge roll away from things but even if you take a hit it is still ok if you have 2 hp foods

The only downside is that the bears at first are a bit challenging to beat. But after you learn their moveset and kill. Your first 2 bears, you can get the Paws of the Bear tier 2 from their drops and after that they are a piece of cake. You don't even have to cheese them with walls and campfires

And a minor downside that I had that other people might not have is the trophy drop rate which is at 10%, however after killing 40 bears I only managed to get 1 trophy. (side note) I made the root mask after killing 2 abominations in the swamp because I wanted to save my poison resistance meads during my swamp stage but during the boss fight I used the bear set with the poison resistance mead

[distant girder]

both, mostly building/repairing without them having to be visible everywhere

[merry pebble]

I was asking because if the goal was just spawnproofing then campfires would be easier to hide 😄

[distant girder]

oh? how do you hide a campfire?
I hope it involves snorkels

[merry pebble]

Same way you burry the workbench, you just need much smaller hole 🙂

[agile star]

I think campfires cover less area for spawnproofing tho than the workbench right?

[merry pebble]

Both have 20m radius 🙂
Tho workbench can be upgraded and each upgrade increases it slightly

[agile star]

Oh ok I did not know that

[distant girder]

oh neat
Dumb question but does burying it block the smoke? and is it still considered a lit campfire for sleeping?

(I'd try it but internet is out for a week)

[agile star]

Omg! Do you have unlimited 5G on your phone? If yes you can do a wifi Hotspot on your phone and connect your computer to it

Otherwise, good luck surviving 👍

[vocal stone]

Idk how dmg works in this game i fight vs draugr elite he just took my +- 70 hp and when i come back to get my stuff back he just attack 2 x more time both for like 15

[frigid mantle]

I just bought the game

Is it worth it?

[agile star]

Wait did you wear any armor? Shield?

[vocal stone]

bear armor axe + shield

[agile star]

So with that he did 70 damage to you, then you come back and he hit for 15 damage after getting your things back?

[vocal stone]

yep it looks like it crit me

[agile star]

That's probably the corpse run buff, do you know about it?

[vocal stone]

nope

[agile star]

So when you retrieve your things from your grave, for the next 50 seconds I believe or more you get resistance vs all physical damage and super increased health regen

[vocal stone]

hmm that would explain this situation

[agile star]

Yes, what shield are you using?

And foods?

[vocal stone]

bronze buckler deer / minced food / bear

[agile star]

So if you parried the dragr elite you should have 0 issues with damage received unless the dragr elite had stars on him

[vocal stone]

and if he have stars than what i run ? 😄

[agile star]

You run back and shoot him with arrows

Or dodge roll his attacks but that's more advanced. Also the axes in this game are super slow attacking compare to the other weapons

Until you get to the endgame the axes are super slow

[vocal stone]

ye i just start using iron mace

is soo much faster

[agile star]

The iron mace is the best weapon in the swamp except when you fight abominations you need to use an axe or sword

[vocal stone]

ye abominations hit like a truck - 50 % hp on hit i try to parry and miss 😄

[agile star]

Gotta practice those parries or dodge roll

Parrying imo is better because you deal double damage for a couple of seconds after that

[vocal stone]

yep and with axe i have problem getting that 3 hit for more dmg with mace i do it all time

i also want to try that 2 hand axe but is so expensive

[merry pebble]

Well, pretty much everyone here on the oficiql game discord Is more than likely to be quite biased, but i would say it absolutely Is 😄

[vocal stone]

@frigid mantle i have this game for long time, first time i played it i quit after 8 h ( too much grind and too slow ) this time i just play with mods thats help with any problem i have too slow sailing mod for more ships too much grind 2/3 x resources and now iam have a blast.

[frigid mantle]

I played around 4 hours it was kinda boring

U know

Fought the first boss(lost) and left the game

[frigid mantle]

Mod name?

[vocal stone]

Yep had this same problem it took my forever to make one simple home and after first boss i try to tame stuff it take 30 min to do it normally NOPE instant quit, so ye now mods for for the rescue

i have like + 10 mods

[frigid mantle]

Can u please list?

[agile star]

Idk if you guys are doing this but the more you prepare the easier the game gets. The more you upgrade your gear the easier it gets. If you are having trouble parrying or dodging attacks just use a tower shield and hold block

[vocal stone]

@frigid mantle PM

@agile star doing it but is more about time / grind / frustration, when i was farming bronze after my 4 trip getting so litle every time and needing to run for 5 min each way i was going to just quit game cuz i hate weight limits in games so for me is just better use mods to have fun

[agile star]

I was talking about the combat but you play the game how you like to play no problem

For me because I played this game for 1200 hours now, so I know how to get stuff quicker in vanilla with 0 mods and also I select the world modifier of the portals to be able to transfer any material so that way you can transfer everything you want with portals and the weight limit does not matter

[vocal stone]

Oh i didn't know u can do that i use mod for that so i can tp with materials

[timid furnace]

Hi

[agile star]

Before you load your world check on the bottom left the World Modifiers button and you can change stuff there as you see fit

That setting cuts down the grinding you need to do a lot

[distant girder]

no I'm in Canada I don't think unlimited data exists

[agile star]

Hang in there!

[distant girder]

thankye I'm already going completely stir crazy with no internet lol

[agile star]

Wait how are you talking on discord?

[distant girder]

mobile

[agile star]

But limited data

[distant girder]

yes

it's enough for mobile stuff, not for gaming tho

[agile star]

I understand

[distant girder]

been getting super into valheim again lately, hadn't played for a long while
so I'm hyped to do silly things this time around

my friend wants to make a copy of that trojan rabbit from month python

[agile star]

Try the new stuff they added in the most recent update, pretty cool

[distant girder]

I'm hyped to see! haven't played since mistlands first came out

[agile star]

Oh wow ok! You are in for a wild ride

[distant girder]

yessssss

[agile star]

If you need any help with the Ashlands biome dm me

[distant girder]

we're playing on easy mode and it's a lot more our style but I still got absolutely demolished by a deathskeeto
and have never been happier with my character name, went with "whoops" and now my death markers are glorious

[vocal stone]

hmm new sezon w Path of Exile start 31 i might not have time to see all stuff game have to offer

[agile star]

Wear root harnesk and the deathsquitos are a non issue

[vocal stone]

@agile star btw what food do u recomend when i just started swamps?

[distant girder]

ooo what do those block again? I remember they look awesome and are weak to fire

[agile star]

Bear meat, deer stew and carrot soup

[distant girder]

or mince meat

[agile star]

Or instead of bear meat use mince meat sauce

[agile star]

The root harnesk gives you resistance to pierce but makes you weak to fire damage. You can drink a barley wine tho to counteract the weakness

[distant girder]

ohhhh ty

[vocal stone]

OK time to upgrade a base a litle Forge have like 10 upgrade i can;t fit them all

[distant girder]

can't wait til I can one-shot the mosquitos again

[vocal stone]

Oh noooo they are mosquitos in game

[tacit crystal]

They're quite low HP, so they can be oneshotted even with crude bow and wood arrows.

[distant girder]

you could think of them as hideous angry hummingbirds if it helps

[agile star]

6 upgrades*

[distant girder]

if you have good aim and reflexes certainly
i do not lol

[agile star]

Silver shield or even iron shield blocks the damage from them

[tacit crystal]

It was only an example.
But one could wait bit until it's close enough to not miss.

[agile star]

Just block with your shield and hit them with any weapon, simple as that

[distant girder]

my playstyle is
-build something weird
-hyperfocus on farming
-accidentally agro everything in a biome
-die

[agile star]

Solid playstyle

[distant girder]

ty

the new bear gear is so fuuuun omg

[agile star]

The new bear is really hard if you do not know it's attack pattern but once you learn how to fight them it is fun yes

The bear set and the Bear Paws are awesome

I tested them with a new world and character up until the Bonemass fight and they are awesome

[distant girder]

for sure

I wanna figure out more fun (wholesome) pranks and silliness

so far it's mostly been editing in a lot of uwus to the storage signs and hiding fish under people's beds

[agile star]

Lol

[distant girder]

was trying to give a fish to one of my friends and he was hyperfocused on building and full inventory, he definitely hadn't touched that type of fish yet tho.
so I followed him around a bit pushing the fish toward him
that didn't work so whenever we play again next he's gonna see a big pile of fish carefully placed on his bed with the display stand things

[agile star]

That will be fun for your friend

[distant girder]

also need to figure out how to make a geodesic dome
hopefully lmao

[agile star]

Lol I just build big boxes and easy peasy got a lot of space and multiple floors to make anything I want 😂

[vocal stone]

Cmon I want to modify my base, but I am afraid if i take off one wall, it will collapse.

[graceful crescent]

Yo which is better the Iron Atgier or Iron sword

Cant really pick tbh

[agile star]

What material are you using?

[vocal stone]

wood

[agile star]

It depends on what you want. The iron atgeir is fantastic with the secondary attack that spins around and staggers and knockbacks everything it touches, also has longer range but you cannot use a shield with it because it is too handed. The sword is a balanced weapon good damage decent AOE and you can use a shield. You choose and pick one or make both

[vocal stone]

but u can still pary with that right?

[agile star]

Try stone

[graceful crescent]

Yes but the defense isnt that good

[agile star]

With the atgeir you can still parry yes, but only blocking not recommended

[graceful crescent]

I've been using atgier and im very good with it, I have also tried the sword and I like it awell, both have Pierce and slash damage but I cant use a shield, therefore if im alone and a horde of greydwarves attacks me during my gathering for bronze im cooked (if im alone)

I can tank a troll but a bear, not so much, I can still parry it but even if its max (bronze level 4 for now) i HAVE to play coop

I cant beat it on my own

I tried using atgier and then switching shield but im not very fast with it cus im on controller

If im in the swamp I will get attacked by Draugers for sure, so its not that effective

[rugged bridge]

If you're running atgeir, you're better off using the dodge now that it's been adjusted to actually be useful

[tribal trench]

Atgier helps when there are multiple melee targets on all sides like you would see in the plains encounters with fuling

yet... I seen it cheese by building a little earth pit and hitting all the mobs through the pit

[graceful crescent]

Yea, my friends also keep telling me to try using a bow too but my aim isnt so good and I run out of arrows fast

[rugged bridge]

The fact that it gives iframes and regenerates a bit of stamina now means you can just casually face tank mobs like a troll or a bear and get away with it easily, as for hordes, spin spin spin

[rugged bridge]

If you're not confident with your melee combat, just do some target practice and play ranged for safety

[graceful crescent]

I use the bronze pendant for fast stamina regen too

[rugged bridge]

Later on in the game you'll get such a ranged option that doesn't require too much aiming

[graceful crescent]

Im a tank along with one of my friends being damage and the other range, I wasn't so helpful with the elder since he literally 1 shot me

So I was forced to use bow

I didnt even hit 1 time

[rugged bridge]

Can't say an atgeir is an ideal weapon for being a tank, but as long as you've got someone with you, parrying's alright. If you're alone, parrying with an atgeir is less preferable than dodging and using the secondary to stagger

[rugged bridge]

I don't recall any of the elder's attacks doing enough damage to one shot you, the vines do a lot but I'd assume you were moving away from them or killing them

[graceful crescent]

It can stomp on you

[rugged bridge]

Stomp's extremely weak if you parry it

[graceful crescent]

Yea, but if I knew it could stomp I would've been ready🥲

[rugged bridge]

[graceful crescent]

Yea i was killing them

[rugged bridge]

Ahh atgeir gameplay was fun, been a while since I used it last

[graceful crescent]

Just to be ready for the next boss, can I parry it's attacks?

I know that it can throw up on you

[rugged bridge]

He only really has one attack that deals physical damage to you

[inland frigate]

yeah im pretty sure with a good buckler you can parry bonemass’s attacks but idk i just cheesed him

[rugged bridge]

But you can parry it

[graceful crescent]

Thats a relief

[rugged bridge]

Every other source of damage from him is either poison or weak minions (skeletons/blobs)

[graceful crescent]

I think the most i will be doing is killing them

[inland frigate]

they can get in the way easily

[rugged bridge]

Would advise you to do that if you plan to fight it with an atgeir

If one of your friends has a mace, plant him in front of the boss and he can melt it on his own

[graceful crescent]

Thats sounds nice🥲

[graceful crescent]

Nice, the damage friend was thinking to make one so its perfect

[rugged bridge]

Get him a solid iron armor set, an iron mace/buckler, a poison res potion and an iron brooch and he can sit in front of the boss for the rest of his life if he so desired

or rather the 10 minutes the potion lasts for

[graceful crescent]

10 minutes?😭

[rugged bridge]

Yeah, the boss fight will usually only last 3 lol

Assuming there is a mace user

[graceful crescent]

Well having a group of 3 it will go well I think

[graceful crescent]

Not yet

[rugged bridge]

Dear god 3 people with maces would kill it in just one minute

Bully the boss

[agile star]

Only sword, axe or fists weapon against bear because they resist blunt and pierce. You can also use fire arrows because they are weak to fire

[agile star]

Atgeir is only pierce damage sword is only slash damage

[graceful crescent]

Doesnt the spin count as a slash?

[graceful crescent]

Honestly we could

We have like 120 iron ready

[agile star]

Nope, still pierce

[graceful crescent]

Doesnt make much sense but okay😭

[agile star]

It is fine, still a really powerful weapon especially against a lot of enemies or 1v1s

[graceful crescent]

I love killing the troll

Once I parry him I deal 40 damage easily

Then I parry him again and he is done

[chrome badge]

At least you're utilizing weapon damage that you intend to when weilding an Atgeir.

[agile star]

Troll is easier to beat than a bear imo lol

[graceful crescent]

Real, but its tougher

[chrome badge]

Having that be attack based could be less intuitive

[graceful crescent]

Yea, I love it but knowing in the future I would need slash damage (in the deep north) makes me rethink atgier

[agile star]

You can make both honestly

[chrome badge]

I mean it's utility surrounding stagger overshadows damage type most of the time anyways.

[graceful crescent]

Yea I love the long range attacks

[graceful crescent]

Yea, but against arrows🥲

[agile star]

I mained swords, polearms, clubs and bows by the endgame

[orchid locust]

atgeir aside, if visuals would represent the actual attacks type, weapons like the sword or battleaxe would gain a double type, which really adds flavor tbh: both secondary attacks on those weapons would become piercing, which gives you more options without the need to change weapon

[agile star]

If you do not like bows, try the arbalests when you get to the mistlands

[chrome badge]

Arrows are so easy to sidestep, unless travel speed is changed, I am not worried there haha

[graceful crescent]

No, I meant that when in the swamps I get attacked by a hord of draugers and most of them have arrows and I die in 30 seconds

But I will definitely try it

[graceful crescent]

Honestly i cant wait to get the staffs

[orchid locust]

piercing as a damage type should also be re-evaluated as a whole imo, depending on the enemy: any living being really suffers from piercing unless they have a specific constitution (like the bear having thicker skin which prevents additional damage)

[agile star]

Oh, then make the root harnesk and the arrows tickle you after that

[graceful crescent]

Most furred mobs are weak agains slash so Pierce damage does almost nothing

[chrome badge]

Yeah, if swamps give you trouble with bows, you may want one staff in particular.

[graceful crescent]

What's that?

[merry pebble]

For battleaxes secondary Blunt would fit more, appart from skull splittur they don't really have any pronounced points that would cause pierce dmg with the poke 🙂

[graceful crescent]

I heard the frost is one of the best ones

[chrome badge]

Have you run into the large scary trees that attack you?

[dense igloo]

My youngest brother just found 2 maypoles in one village. I guess that damn rare since i never find more than one 😅

[graceful crescent]

Yes they are scarier than trolls

[distant girder]

what do maypoles do in a village?

sorry totally wrong message reply

[chrome badge]

There's an armor set you can make from their remains

[graceful crescent]

Oh gotta check it then

I didnt get anything from him since my friends were able to kill it i was just running🥲

[merry pebble]

They can rarely generate in the abandoned meadows villages, they give +1 comfort

[chrome badge]

Your username is sort of crass for a kid friendly server, are you open to changing it for this server? 😅 I am not a mod to be clear, just thought I would ask!

[graceful crescent]

Yea sure, you guys can give me recommendations since I have no idea

What to name myself

[chrome badge]

Luck Off 15

[graceful crescent]

Bet

[agile star]

Kill the walking trees in the swamp and you will find out

[graceful crescent]

Bet

[agile star]

They give you +1 to your comfort so if you find one build your bed and home there

[graceful crescent]

Btw I wanted to do per-server but sadly I cant

Ill try when im home from my pc

[chrome badge]

No worries, mods can change it if they're bothered, no stress.

[graceful crescent]

Yea I have no problem with it being changed, just notify me before giving me a new one so I know lol

[polar osprey]

Just change it yourself?

[fossil delta]

I can't, so he probably can't either.

[polar osprey]

Literally click your profile picture in this chat and change per server profile...

[graceful crescent]

I cant

[chrome badge]

They may have a degree of notoriety in other servers, don't want to offset that just for 1 server because I asked right.

[fossil delta]

It says I do not have permission to do that,

[polar osprey]

Change your main profile then.

[graceful crescent]

I have a lot to change abt this profile so ill think about it

[fossil delta]

I wonder why we are even restricted from changing our profile on a given server?

[chrome badge]

Discord Nitro, money wins. Fatality.

[polar osprey]

Na it's not a nitro thing. It's server perms.

[graceful crescent]

Lol I changed it but I dont think anything changed here

Oh wait it did

[chrome badge]

Oh yeah you're right, I am thinking of profiles I think.

[polar osprey]

I think they have it setup so people aren't constantly changing their names to confuse others?

[graceful crescent]

Yea

[chrome badge]

Fair assumption

[fossil delta]

Might have to do with some how preventing hacking or spamming.

[chrome badge]

Nah, most modding tools identify users with their account names.

Likely for community's sake

[fossil delta]

Huh. Don't see how that would protect a community, but I am not on very many, let alone large ones like this one, so not much experience with problems they can have.

[graceful crescent]

Its just to not confuse and someone being copied and done wrong things in the server, then banning the wrong person

[chrome badge]

Just community members unable to identify if problems are attributed to one user, and report appropriately.

[graceful crescent]

We think the same brother

is amazing

[fossil delta]

I will defer to your greater experience. Fortunately I don't care all that much either. Its not like I want to change it anyways.

[distant girder]

ohhh cool so they can't be crafted?

[graceful crescent]

Its a personal choice nobody forces anyone anyways

If its too inappropriate then its a problem

A friend once joined a server and got banned the same day cus his name was the n word

[agile star]

They can be crafted only during spring I believe, I am not sure

[dense igloo]

During midsummer festival so June-July i believe?

I can ask share the seed here soon, wont be spoiling other stuff. Two maypoles in village at spawn island somewhere.

[polar osprey]

I believe if you change the date on your system you can trick valheim into thinking it's midsummer, Halloween or Christmas. Allowing you to place said holiday items.

[fossil delta]

Yeah, we get like 30 days in early Summer to craft it. Similar for the Christmas tree. Aside from dev commands, of course.

[dense igloo]

Seed here: LyCKeBo

[fossil delta]

I think making the turnip lantern is still active.

[rugged bridge]

Nothing more fun than competing with your friends to see who can launch a fuling the furthest from the top of the tower

[undone garnet]

Stop launching Fulings from catapults!!! #fulingslifematter

[foggy glacier]

right up there with punting greylings.

[rugged bridge]

But they make such good golf balls

[undone garnet]

Why are you such a cruel viking 🙁

[merry pebble]

They are just humanely scattering fuling and greyling remains into the surrounding area 😄

[undone garnet]

Ooof. Maybe they are scared or even in thrill. Did you ever wonder what they feel?

They have feelings too 🙁

[rugged bridge]

Exactly, it's called fertilizing the soil

I'm single handedly keeping the world of valheim full of flora

[foggy glacier]

Look, I know I'm a celebrity and all but I was tired of him following me around. How was I supposed to know he can fly?

[cosmic verge]

Yes this works

[flat axle]

Wish we had proxychat in Valheim, hearing the screams of my friends die down as they run further away would be absolutely hilarious.

[uncut bough]

anyone feels like bear trophy drop rate is low? like lower than 10%

i swear i killed at least 20 bears and only get 1 trophy

i am genuinely needing that bear trophy to craft the armor set but at this rate i might just defeat elder before even getting another trophy

[pliant hatch]

If it's a new world you're playing on, visit Haldor.
There's a bear rug at his place, which you can destroy and get a trophy from.

[uncut bough]

oh okay thx

[neon steppe]

just having bear chest and pants is nice too

[uncut bough]

i like the hat

[proper kindle]

Finding shipwrecks in the early game is very cool. I found two, chopped them up, and now I have the finewood bow before Eikthyr.

[uncut bough]

and also the set buff seems cool

[uncut bough]

does shipwreck gives corewood?

[proper kindle]

Just finewood. But you can get early corewood from breaking up lean-tos.

I think just finewood. I may be mistaken.

[neon magnet]

Crude bow is superior for Eikthyr. Same result (he dead) but more bow skill after 😉

[proper kindle]

I've been wandering into the black forest too. Have troll armour and bear claws. Poor Eikthyr won't know what hit him.

[pliant hatch]

Shipwrecks only give finewood,
But you can get corewood from the small shelters at the campsites òr you cut down a pine tree in the BF, as you can do that with a flint axe.

[quiet robin]

When chopping trees, you sometimes get the domino effect, and knock down a birch tree. With some patience, you can break that up by rolling the tree/logs into other logs (not rocks tho), and get enough finewood early to make a few things. (table, chair, banner 1st, then the finewood bow)

(I chop a LOT of trees. 😄 )

[pliant hatch]

Stepping through your portal and getting a Mistland welcome committee: 1⭐ seeker soldier, 2⭐ tick, two 1⭐ tick and a few ticks without stars.

I was so glad I knew there were emphasis on WERE two Dvergr rogues nearby.

It means I got 4 hours to mine the ancient weapon, ancient armor, the ribcase and the skull before getting the heck out of there.

[vocal stone]

Oh no i made green little people mad they running after me

Also they hit for way more dmg than stuff in Swamps

[gray sand]

That's because you skipped a biome.

[pliant hatch]

If you have entered the swamps or defeated the boss there, the biome you're in now is way above your level.

[vocal stone]

😭 and i was happy that i have next biom so close 😭

[pliant hatch]

The "next" biome from Swamps is the Mountains.

[gray sand]

Swamp gives you Frost Resist mead, which is your indicator of where to go next.

[nova verge]

Hellow everynyan

[vocal stone]

oversize speed turtle ( Lox) just took + 60 % hp on one hit and i just upgraded all my armor for next boss in swamp

[nova verge]

Nothing stops U to go straight to the Ashlands

I bet those pesky skeletons are afraid of flint knife

[shy marlin]

they are

[vocal stone]

btw i randomly see Black figure when i try go to him he Disappear thats odin in disguise, right?

[shy marlin]

ye

[gray sand]

Not really a disguise if you immediately knew who he was 😉

[uncut bough]

why is the icon for bog witch so huge

it is so big in map bruv

[vocal stone]

well that thx to Assasin Valhala 😄

[gray sand]

Because she is far away, it shrinks as you get closer.

[vocal stone]

@gray sand Also he try his best and that is important

Oh no i forgot how portals works 😭

also that fight was hard also "crits" after block didn't work vs swamp boss

[mint phoenix]

Yeah. Bonemass is the first proper hard fight

but trust it gets way worse

[shy marlin]

that's true for any boss

[vocal stone]

oh

[gray sand]

? Bonemass is the easiest zero-damage boss fight.

All of his animations are the same length.

[gray sand]

Bosses cannot be staggered, yes.

Which meant previously, parrying them was pointless.
But since they made parry cost nothing again... it is 🤷‍♂️

[visual ivy]

bonemass is definitely a considerable increase in difficulty

[shy marlin]

ye for a new player bonemass is kinda the first step up

for an experienced player he legit dies in 2 min tops

[visual ivy]

that's the case with any boss, really

[gray sand]

Like... Eikthyr at least has different animation timings so messing them up occasionally is understandable.

[visual ivy]

except maybe fader or yagluth

[gray sand]

Bonemass -- all of those take the same time.

[quiet robin]

raise hand: parry with shield. 3 swipes with mace. wait.
armpitfart: yeah, run over, smack with mace.
barfing: runaway brave sir robin! 😛

he is easy with maxed out shield and mace. (lotsa crits after a parry) 🙂

[vocal stone]

idk for me first boss was hard 2 was easy

and 3 was OK i mean poison was pain and he deal a lot of dmg but was easy to dodge and block

[quiet robin]

first boss, just a shield and club work fine. block/parry 3 swipes with club. he'll go down. (I suck at trying to dodge using keyboard/mouse) 😛

[merry pebble]

No crits after parry 😉

[nocturne wolf]

Parrying does save stamina and generate adrenaline though

[quiet robin]

er? If I do the block right, it seems they take more damage on the next hit. (most things get stunned for some easy smacking)

[nocturne wolf]

Bosses can't be staggered

[merry pebble]

Not bosses 😄 other stuff yeah

[nocturne wolf]

The extra damage just comes from being staggered, not the next hit from a parry

[shy marlin]

I'm not a parry gamer ( ), does your stamina regen rate get paused when you parry? or does it keep regening if you block

[quiet robin]

maybe not staggered, but they do seem to pause doing anything for a bit.

[nocturne wolf]

I'm pretty sure regeneration isn't paused

[shy marlin]

that's so op lmao

[merry pebble]

The attack animation abruptly ends maybe 🙂

[nocturne wolf]

You will lose a tiny amount of stamina from the 80% regen speed while blocking

[shy marlin]

well if you only have ur shield up right for the parry you don't lose anything really

[nocturne wolf]

Yes, it's nothing noticeable

[quiet robin]

could be. I get the sound for a good block (must be a parry) and then I can get 2-3 swipes before anything happens. Deerboss 3rd swipe is a maybe. He reacts quickly.

(tree is just fire arrows or an axe) 😄

[nocturne wolf]

Bonemass isn't pausing because of the parry, he just attacks slowly

His melee attack has a 7 second cooldown

[quiet robin]

yeah, I can usually get 6 smacks on him before another attack. stamina takes a hit tho)

Bonemass is hilarious to go back to later and use frost staff on. 😄 (skellies to a number too, although the dees boss is a scream for skellies) Tree though! He'll ignore everything and just try to step on them! heh-heh

[mint phoenix]

he was the first boss i strugled on my first playthrough

[gray sand]

Regen pauses only on things that spend stamina.

Which is why it pauses on normal attacks even if you Berserkir your way to them being free.

[nocturne wolf]

Attack animations disable stamina regen even if no stamina has been recently spent

Jumping normally spends stamina but when made free it won't pause regen

[shy marlin]

Ye casting fireball pauses stam regen even tho it doesn’t cost stam too

[gray sand]

Suffice to say Parry was fine and they broke it.. again.. even though they had to unbreak it previously..
But apparently..

[vocal stone]

OK i hate snow

[neon steppe]

eh, there is more annoying stuff than snow in valheim

[dawn cedar]

Yo is new paws of the bear any good?

[tacit crystal]

They are quite good and cheap to craft and upgrade after getting the required amount of paws.

[dawn cedar]

Hmm do you recommend crafting them? Or are they soon to be replaced with any of the bronze gear

[tacit crystal]

They can carry through swamps quite comfortably.

[pale panther]

I'm bored anyone want help?

[dawn cedar]

Let's js say I'm bot planning on crafting bronze armor and should i go for bear set or bear paws

[dawn cedar]

For real?

Joelkki if i went for best in slot would that still be an option?

[tacit crystal]

Of course you want to have other damage types with you but for slash option they're solid.

[dawn cedar]

Okay but isn't bronze sword better? 😅

[tacit crystal]

Better depends on preference of course. Swords are still solid.

The secondary attack of paws/fists has 6x stagger multiplier, which can stagger most enemies in swamps.

They're quite good option to keep abominations staggered constantly.

[dawn cedar]

Okay I'll craft em then

Never used it before

[tacit crystal]

Might take little time to get used to, it has 2 hit combo instead of 3 hit with most other weapon types.

[dawn cedar]

Oh ok

[tacit crystal]

The second hit of the combo deals double damage similarly to the 3rd of the others combos.

[dawn cedar]

Sounds good

[tacit crystal]

That's what I said.

[dawn cedar]

Ty bro

[pale panther]

Anyone want some company in the game??

Just got off work bored

[tacit crystal]

You can search in https://discord.com/channels/391142601740517377/1024264966712340510 👍

[neon steppe]

there was a video of you killing loxes with some claws? what claws were those

[pale panther]

Yeah no bites yet

[pale panther]

Think they busy or sleep

[tacit crystal]

Give it some time.

[pale panther]

Ight thanks

[tacit crystal]

Ah this? #memes-and-clips message
They're the new claws that are craftable during plains.

||Vilebone Maulclaws||, to be specific.

[neon steppe]

ahh!

i need to craft me some

[tacit crystal]

They deal 20 slash 60 pierce at quality 1, which is why they're good against lox.

[neon steppe]

i thought claws only did slash, but i see

[vocal stone]

Oh cmon i just wasted like 3 min digging down only to find out u can't dig more than 5m i was looking for silver and it was right in front of me

[tacit crystal]

Other claw weapons deal only slash.

[vocal stone]

and iam dead just got gank be 4 wolfs and fenrir

[neon steppe]

it's dangerous during night 🌕

[vocal stone]

ye i wasted too much digning down have no idea night was already

also because it was do deep only one jumped down so when i killed him i have no idea that 4 more was already behind me 😄

and they Deal a lot of dmg

3 hit and dead

[tacit crystal]

Yeah sudden pack of wolves is very quick death.

At least one lesson learned today.

[vocal stone]

yeeeee but now i have somehow get my stuff back while not dying from all of them

[tacit crystal]

Did you notice any of them having stars?

At least starred wolves despawn when night ends.

[vocal stone]

nope i die too fast 😄

[neon steppe]

when in a pickle, good night's rest is helpful

[tacit crystal]

And fenris too.

[vocal stone]

https://tenor.com/view/negan-negan-smith-negan-the-walking-dead-negan-smith-the-walking-dead-negan-twd-gif-26236761
not even one enemy now 😄

[vocal stone]

Rip again 😭 saw chest wanted to get it fast well Golem who was sleeping right behind wall was Faster and just ones hot me 😭

also Wolf trophy are kinda rare killed like 15 and still 0

[neon steppe]

be careful with golems near edges of mountain, they pushed me to my death too many times 😂 damn fall damage

[dawn cedar]

No kidding

This is straight up overpowered

For the time it's acquired in my opinion

You can go face to face with a bear or hand to hand should i say

Dealing 65+ dmg on a bear is just crazy work

[tacit crystal]

Or paw to paw.

Yeah you can also parry bear attacks with them.

[stuck lake]

you will DIE mach

im gonna ripper you

[lyric shale]

I two shot you boy

[stuck lake]

im too quick for that

[visual granite]

what are yalls thoughts on polearms

[shy marlin]

op

[visual granite]

really? ive never felt they were particularly strong, but then again i havent used them much

[shy marlin]

They have a learning curve, but once you get them the game becomes pretty trivial

The shear amount of control and damage they're capable of is absurd

And it's a proactive strategy rather than a reactive strategy like parrying

So you just stagger and kill things before they even get an oppurtunity to even make an attempt at hitting you

[visual granite]

what weapon type do you find the most fun, or has the most consistent progression (i.e, not using the same one for a long time/getting upgrades consistently)

[shy marlin]

Prolly swords?

[tepid prawn]

I find myself struggling to avoid doing another 12th swords playthrough sometimes haha

[visual granite]

my first playthrough i did a lot of hopping around

but i want to try and stick to 1 ranged weapon and 1 close weapon this time

im thinking knife and bow might be fun

[tepid prawn]

there is limited choice of ranged pre crossbow / magic unlocking in Mistlands so only spear or bow (I personally can't do spear sadly as I just never find them again...)

[visual granite]

spears are the only ranged option that you can recover lol

[tepid prawn]

yeah you can't recover arrows but you don't loose the bow when you shoot haha

seals it for me

[visual granite]

real

[tepid prawn]

crossy and magic are amazing options but not for early game

[visual granite]

annoying thing about bows is having to make and carry the ammo

[tepid prawn]

I have done a bow and 2h mace playthrough only for instance

[nocturne wolf]

Blob bombs and pickaxe

[visual granite]

so many options i want them all

[zealous bridge]

Mad man!

[ancient slate]

I can't wait til Fader relics have a use >.>

[visual ivy]

the more I play the more I see how strong the bear armor is

it's probably meta with it's insane defense stats

Personally I'd definitely knock down a couple of defense points from every piece of the set, and also remove the 25% vulnerability of set bonus

[shy marlin]

Vile armor too

[visual ivy]

Ehh it's not nearly as strong in comparison, for it's progression stage

[gray sand]

Vile + Wolf Trinket both buffing your pierce damage is nuts.

[visual ivy]

Too bad that it's like the most resistant damage type

[gray sand]

Which means stacking the buffs is good as it lets you overcome that reduction.

[visual ivy]

Now that I think about it vile claws could've been a blunt first weapon..

[gray sand]

Claws historically known for being blunt.

[visual ivy]

Not the claws themselves but a different weapon in their place, I meant

But anyways, vile stuff is fine, claws probably need more block

[stuck lake]

what the heck i just beat the final boss but nothing happened after we attached the head

[gray sand]

Final boss isn't in the game yet.

[stuck lake]

me and my friend beat the guy why isnt odin congratulating us

WHAT 😭

[gray sand]

Deep North is the final biome, and that update hasn't been released.

[stuck lake]

when is it releasing

[visual ivy]

2026 approximately (?)

[gray sand]

When it is finished.

[stuck lake]

BROOOO

we did all that for like a month for it to not be done

😭

[visual ivy]

You'll be able to continue from this save when the update releases

[stuck lake]

we might forget abt the game in that time

when the deep north releases is that the defined ending

[visual ivy]

We don't know
It will most likely be the last biome

[stuck lake]

www

then we can finally beat it

[empty cradle]

anyone know why admin tamed wolves just despawn if i move more than 20 ft away from them?

[gray sand]

Yes.

Deep North update is confirmed as the full release of the game with the ending.

[empty cradle]

ive TPd 3 pairs of wolves to my breeding pen and so far if i go to my house about 20 -30 ft away and come back theyre gone

[stuck lake]

i cannot wait to go to valhalla

also whats all the icy stuff at the top of the map

if its not deep north

[gray sand]

?

[visual ivy]

It's a placeholder

[stuck lake]

ohhh

cause i was gonna say it seems pretty north

[gray sand]

Just like all of current Ashlands was still a place you could go to before they did the Ashlands update.

[stuck lake]

ohhhh

[visual ivy]

Also I'm not sure how it will generate if you've already explored it, so better stay away from there (?)

[stuck lake]

are there special mobs over there

[stuck lake]

oh ok

[stuck lake]

@lyric shale make sure we dont go in the icy area up top

[gray sand]

Everything you've been within 300m of will not update.

[shy marlin]

huh, it's literally +20% hp regen, 40% stamina regen, +20% blunt + 20% pierce 😭

that's INSANE at any tier

That's stuff you expect from ASHLANDS

[stuck lake]

whats vile armor

[visual ivy]

You also get slapped for 25% more

[gray sand]

Kill the undead bears in the Plains (they spawn only at night).

[visual ivy]

And you get less armor than padded

[shy marlin]

Bear armor also has that

[stuck lake]

can i make like morgen armor

[gray sand]

No.

[stuck lake]

aw

[visual ivy]

Well, bear armor kinda incentivizes player to NOT make a full set
You can make the "chestpiece" and "pants" and upgrade them to tier 3 with barely any effort, and then add some helmet to make yourself an armor that's stronger than a bronze set

[shy marlin]

Idk not going full bear armor is a bit crazy

[gray sand]

Increased slash/chop very useful.

Massively oversized hat, not so much 😄

[visual ivy]

I mean, what's the point of getting it when you're using blunt weapons

[shy marlin]

Increased stam regen rate is insane

[visual ivy]

And that 25% penalty makes your armor a lot less efficient

[shy marlin]

nah lmao

[gray sand]

So in the context of "I use only blunt weapons" -- yes, not as good.
But you're choosing to force that context 🤷‍♂️

Also the weakness applies only to your armor, which means nothing if you're blocking.

[visual ivy]

Still, there's like no point in making a bronze armor now because you get showered in bear hides

[gray sand]

No point?

[visual ivy]

And bear armor is better than bronze

[gray sand]

Better is subjecthive.

[neon steppe]

best looking hat in game!

[shy marlin]

yea they should nerf the bear armor value or buff the bronze armor value

It is silly

[gray sand]

Or give heavy armors set bonuses...

[visual ivy]

Because upgraded bronze takes hours of ore grind, unlike bear armor, materials for which is just junk that fills up your chests passively

[gray sand]

Some of us enjoy mining?

[chrome badge]

Bronze needs a buff or material cost cut tbf, but bear armor is not incentivizing not making the full set.

[visual ivy]

I mean, you can skip on the bear headgear and get the upgraded hide one to get the same benefits as the bronze set would provide, but without the damage vulnerability

[chrome badge]

Right, but you'll still need bronze for certain things, so some will inevitably choose to take the effort a bit further.

[chrome badge]

The damage vulnerability isn't huge, and the buffs are pretty incredible at that stage.

[visual ivy]

138 copper is not "a bit further"

You will genuinely run out of copper ore in the entire forest for the set alone

[chrome badge]

Paired with the Elder power, the Swamps and it's rain debuff can be much less punishing where stamina is concerned.

[visual ivy]

Well, I guess

It depends on player skill level then, how much confidence they have in their parry/evasion ability

[chrome badge]

That's just.. I have to imagine you've got quite a small forest, I've about 15 nodes nearby and have filled a cart with copper just by leading a troll to each one after surveying a bit.

It took maybe 30 minutes.

[visual ivy]

Good generation then

[chrome badge]

Decent enough, but I've never had a small black forest where copper isn't common enough to make mining difficult.

[visual ivy]

I've had forests with only 3-4 nodes at a reasonable distance

[chrome badge]

Out of roughly 7 playthroughs.

[visual ivy]

In any case it's still smelting, which implies massive woodcutting and time investment into a set that's a bit better than the one you get after killing 4 bears

Personally I will always dislike the bronze grind

[chrome badge]

I can't argue that, but you can also be just as unlucky and not encounter bears.

[visual ivy]

That'll be highly unlikely

[chrome badge]

I don't mind it, it comes in handy later in useful crafts.

So is not having copper nodes though.

[visual ivy]

Actually I forgot about the troll set

Okay maybe bear set is okay if you compare it to the troll one

[chrome badge]

I used troll gear all the way to Ashlands, not actively, it's just my go to new biome exploring set.

Less detection radius is massive around unknown enemies.

[visual ivy]

Then I guess the main issue is bronze set being kinda ass

Too much effort for no benefit and a -10% movement penalty

[chrome badge]

Ultimately yeah it needs a change, but it will still serve those players who do nothing but run from Trolls and Bears until they have better armor.

[visual ivy]

That is also true

Trolls and bears are pretty tough without bronze gear if you're new

[chrome badge]

Most definitely, a bear almost got me on my first fight with one because of the bite attack it can do from time to time.

Just when I thought I knew it's attack pattern, the strongest attack mixed it up.

[visual ivy]

Yeah lmao, it's genuinely kinda neat

Such a good enemy

[chrome badge]

Yeah one of the better additions to an earlier biome, though I still get creeped out by Abominations.

[visual ivy]

Always a joy to fight one since they keep you on your toes with some of the heavy hitting attacks

[neon steppe]

hate the movement penalties 😠

[chrome badge]

Yeah, coupled with a tower shield, which seems ideal to newer players, you're hardly moving.

[visual ivy]

Vile was genuinely scaring me so much that I've resorted to just always circling them because I was too scared to take a hit

(you can't parry them with fist weapons)

[neon steppe]

i find trolls more creepy than abominations, something about their faces

[chrome badge]

I've yet to fight a Vile but I'm in no hurry. 😅

[chrome badge]

Aww, I like their faces haha

[visual ivy]

Damage sponge, the enemy

[chrome badge]

Noted 🤔

[visual ivy]

Won't go into details, don't wanna spoil the fun and joy

Of fighting one of them when half of the biome is on your ass

[lunar sapphire]

I have been summoned

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/978123126359617578/1097362667620008028/ezgif.com-gif-maker_5.gif

[ebon oyster]

If I can parry a bear, can I parry a vile?

[lunar sapphire]

Indeed

[ebon oyster]

Excellent

[gray sand]

In the same way people have "scale issues" I was corrected on how to spell subjecthive correctly in this server 😛

[lunar sapphire]

😄

[tawdry jay]

anybody down to play with me

[barren whale]

does the +20% stamina regen from Bear armor add or multiply with the +100% from Rested?
I assumed it added but if its multiplicative thats pretty fuckin crazy, vilebone even more so

[fathom gulch]

Was anyone’s gameplay affected by the AWS outage today?

[shy marlin]

not sure but it's nuts

On top of the bear trinket and lingering stamina 💀

[bronze kayak]

When is the community predicting Deep north will be out???

[shy marlin]

This community is pretty draconian about speculation for deep north but playstation port was confirmed in 2026 and they don't allow EA games so 😉

[bronze kayak]

well I knew 2026 from the devs not saying anything about Nov/dec. (from qna from june)
I was more thinking if ppl guessed based on season / month

[shy marlin]

yea we don't know enough to make any good guestimate about any quarter time

Hopefully there's a dev blog soon and we might get more info on where the deep north is at

[civic stirrup]

My bets on a spring drop

[tepid prawn]

We don’t really know if January or December but probably in between, Feb is the 5 year anniversary but I think it might not be ready in time for that

[tacit crystal]

Try looking in https://discord.com/channels/391142601740517377/1024264966712340510

[little turtle]

im having hard time finding these wolves in the mountain

[neon magnet]

When the copper deposit overlaps with several large rocks 😐

[agile star]

Try going to the Mountains at night, they spawn more but you gotta make sure it is a big enough mountain

[little turtle]

can you kill bonemass with iron mace

[dense igloo]

Beta test mostlikely spring but before the update is ready we might be on autumn. This is just a guess aswell.

[rugged bridge]

Best weapon for it
also greetings fellow POE2 player

[civic stirrup]

Not sure why it would take that long though, my general observation is that biome updates are about 14 months or so apart and its already been 17 since the last one. If it didn't come out until after next fall thats 29 months which seems a bit long imo

[indigo forum]

Looking for tips what server side only mods I can put on my dedicated server.

Currently I have the Server side QoL.

[merry pebble]

Folks in #mods-discussion might be able to help 😄

[nocturne sage]

Making first solo trip to Ashlands (3rd playthrough). The Charred Warriors and twitches do slash damage mainly correct?? Thinking I should toss on the carapace chest and take root chest off now

[shy marlin]

don't take root chest off

so many things in the ashlands do pierce

[copper bramble]

rip the +40% eitr regen then 🥀

[shy marlin]

I mean if you're mage you don't care about the root harnesk because you have bubble

[hallow grotto]

Yo

[nocturne sage]

Never been a magic enjoyer

Root chest it is

[copper bramble]

i'm currently doing a hyprid build with arbalest, himminafl and staff of embers. working quite nice

one of each food type

[hallow grotto]

Yo found this Discord off google. Looking for people to enjoy this masterpiece of a game with

[summer hinge]

look no further than #1024264966712340510 !

[wise sinew]

Why is the game saying I have mods installed when I don't :v And my intro screen is all pink 😭 I haven't launched the game in ages

Nvm uninstall and reinstall fixed it

[pliant hatch]

Have you used mods in the past?
Because if you have and have uninstalled them, there's always a chance some of the files remained in the Valheim folder and thus messed up your game.

[heady parcel]

I never take it on instead... Easier to not become too dependent on that resistance that way...

[uncut bough]

man why do they have to nerf my beloved Bonemass power

i know it is OP as hell and 99% of the time ppl pick Bonemass because it is just that good, but how am i gonna pull a get out of jail free card when i got jumped with low stamina

[merry pebble]

Thats the point, you are not supposed to

[wise sinew]

Nope never

[pliant hatch]

Magic bubble, feather cape and jump potion do that too

[gray sand]

Given how many things no longer cost stamina... how do you have low stamina?

[wintry valve]

whats "how many" in this context?

[tacit crystal]

Parrying no longer cost stamina after Call to Arms update.

Perfect dodge also restores part of used stamina.

[nocturne wolf]

And dodge skill makes the base cost of rolling lower too

[wintry valve]

Ill be honest im up to the mistland and my dodge skill is at 6

[nocturne wolf]

3% reduced stamina cost

[gray sand]

+Meads and Armor that reduce stamina cost or buff stamina regen + trinkets.

They have made stamina a non-issue and idk why.

[wintry valve]

well I still run out of stamina frequently

[gray sand]

Scale issue.

[wintry valve]

perhaps, but not everyone plays like you do

if the game has to be tailored specifically to challenge those who play it perfectly, everyone else will have a bad time with it

[pliant hatch]

Six! 😮

That's twice as much as I have.
And my char is also in the Mistlands.

[gray sand]

You're the only one bringing up "perfectly".

[wintry valve]

Fine, if the game has to be tailors to those to play better than everyone else, then everyone else will have a bad time with it.

[gray sand]

🤔 This isn't even about "better than everyone else."

If you want a game that requires no thought, no planning, and no attention span -- there is an entire suite of "AFK" and "IDLE" games available.

[wintry valve]

do you equate the old bonemass power to idle and afk gaming?

[gray sand]

No, I equate it to balance issues. Which this game does have -- but it is still in early access so balance can be put on a lower priority until the game proper it completed.

[wicked quarry]

At full 10 bone, how long does the shield generator last?

[merry pebble]

It consumes 1 fuel per 500 dmg

time doesent matter

[gray sand]

Personal, non-magic, fueled shield generator when? 😏

[merry pebble]

No idea 😄

personal bet, never

[gray sand]

Haldor sells Shield Belt after you kill Fader 😏

WAIT

And it is a Pay2Win Shield Belt that you fuel with gold coins 😄

In-game money sink 😛

[merry pebble]

Heh, that is a fun way to spend coins 😄

[gray sand]

@shy marlin BALANCE 🙃

[gray sand]

Golden weapon that deals damage based on how much weight in coins you are carrying 😉

[neat raven]

anyone wanna play?

[pliant hatch]

With some luck, someone in https://discord.com/channels/391142601740517377/1024264966712340510 might.

[shy marlin]

Balance?

Equilibrium? I have been summoned.

[little swift]

hey does the flametal sink now or not? i dont remember if they changed it

[merry pebble]

Yes, but the chance for the pillars to start sinking was lowered from 10% per hit to 1% per hit 🙂

[little swift]

oh i see

thats not ideal but better

[merry pebble]

Imo it would be better to have it at around 5%, still decent chance to start sinking but still preserving the "be fast and efficient or you will not get all of it" factor 🙂

[tacit crystal]

Well, speak for yourself. Somehow I have bad RNG with them always.

[gray sand]

Look at my P2W shield belt idea above 😛

[gleaming bridge]

hi can a black forest trader spawn on literally any black forest on the map or is there a distance limit

[gray sand]

There is a radius from spawn limit, yes.

[gleaming bridge]

5km +?

[gray sand]

🤷‍♂️

[steady cove]

I found a stone. Im happy. If only i could carry it visible on me to show the world to it

[merry pebble]

1500m from centre

[gray sand]

😭 Putting the E after the R 😭

[gleaming bridge]

@merry pebble yikes im wayyyy off then.

[merry pebble]

Its still correct tho 🙂

[untold sinew]

Center or centre @gleaming bridge

[gray sand]

Is it? Is it coerrct? 😏

[gleaming bridge]

i used t write centre my whole life

but now that i speak more with americans i use center

[merry pebble]

One is brittish spelling and the other is american spelling 🙂

[untold sinew]

Let me guess

L

[merry pebble]

Nope 😄

Non native speaker so i dont care much for differences between the two

[untold sinew]

Im Quebecois

[pliant hatch]

European people usually speak / write in British English.
Those in North Armerica usually speak American English.
The rest of the world speaks local English. 😄

[untold sinew]

In canada

👵👑

[gleaming bridge]

quebec city?

[untold sinew]

No

Montreal

[gleaming bridge]

yow gamer

[untold sinew]

Yeeess

[gleaming bridge]

wait no

its YUL

[untold sinew]

?

[gleaming bridge]

the airport

[untold sinew]

No

Idk what you're talking about

[gleaming bridge]

montreal airport is YUL

[untold sinew]

Ah ok

[gleaming bridge]

sorry this is how i associate all cities

[untold sinew]

But I'm close to rawdon

[gleaming bridge]

neva heard of it

[untold sinew]

Joliette?

[gleaming bridge]

no sir

but im not even in NA

[untold sinew]

What is the NA

Never m8nd

[gleaming bridge]

my brother in arms, north america

[untold sinew]

Sorry im only 13

[gleaming bridge]

thats crazy

i have unread emails older than you

[untold sinew]

Haha

[gleaming bridge]

good taste in games though, when i was 13 i played minecraft all day

do all shields give 5x adrenaline on parry

[nocturne wolf]

All except carapace buckler, which gives 10

[gleaming bridge]

thank you!!

[untold sinew]

And tower shield cant parry

[gray sand]

Wait what?

They buffed the most OP shield in the game?

[barren whale]

thought all bucklers give 10

round shields 5, tower can't parry xd

[gray sand]

If bucklers all give 10 and normal shields give 5, I can understand that.
If only Carapace gives 10...

[nocturne wolf]

The other bucklers give 5

[gray sand]

Jesus Odin Christ...

[nocturne wolf]

I think all bucklers should give 5 they're good enough already

Also I don't want banded shield to be too much worse than iron buckler because I like how it looks

[gray sand]

Bucklers giving 5 and normal shields giving 10 would be how I would do it tbh.

[nocturne wolf]

Maybe 7 or 8, 10 is too much

[gray sand]

Gives you an actual reason to use normal shields over bucklers.

[barren whale]

bruh aintnoway.... does anyone know if that's intentional 😭

[gray sand]

Better question: Is there an actual person in charge of balance or is it "whomever puts it in the game decides the numbers."??

[nocturne wolf]

The default value is 5 so unless someone clicked the wrong box, it's intentional

[gray sand]

Do you have the breakdown of which weapons' attacks give more than just 1?

[nocturne wolf]

It's on this wiki page https://valheim.fandom.com/wiki/Adrenaline

[gray sand]

Did you write said page? 😄

[nocturne wolf]

No

[gray sand]

Well I am asking you, specifically for a reason 😄 As you pointed out the thing on my blocking sheet.
So I trust you, specifically, for information like this 😄

[nocturne wolf]

I haven't looked through player attacks as much as I have with enemy attacks, sorry

[barren whale]

yea you've always given me very reliable info
i'm crashing out over this though 😭

[gray sand]

If you get a chance, hit my dm's with the info 💛

I think it would "better" or at least more interesting if higher difficulties gave you more adrenaline.

Also as much as I understand it being on Fader Power, I think a ++% Adrenaline Gain Armor Set would be a good addition.

[placid dust]

#suggestions message

you can make paths with the hoe

[tacit crystal]

I've slowly grown fond to the idea of bloodstone weapons granting more adrenaline on hitting enemies.
-# IIRC it was Scales' idea.

[frank birch]

That sounds like it would actually benefit getting the bloodstone instead of one of the other ones

[gray sand]

Also valid AF.

[barren whale]

I'm wary of bloodstone getting too good with DN feasts but it sounds fucking awesome in concept

[nocturne wolf]

Deep north's feast will probably only be available after you've killed every boss

[barren whale]

oh yeah, then the reward is going 3 feast and turning into Doomguy bloodmaxxing

oneshotting Jotunns as if they were trolls with your blood meteorite knife or something, I can dream

[gray sand]

HHH is better than FFF for bloodstone.

[gleaming bridge]

am i stupid how did i not find the trader, this is all within 1500m of the spawn all the black forests ive seen

oh i cant upload images :(

[merry pebble]

He spawns 1500m or further from world centre, not within 😅

And you can upload images in some channels, like #screenshots 🙂

[gleaming bridge]

oh and further
ok yea mi fucekd

[tacit crystal]

He has the largest area on map where he can spawn compared to other 2 traders.

[barren whale]

yes but with 3 eitr feasts you can summon trolls 🔥

[gray sand]

There are only 2.

[barren whale]

I'm wary of bloodstone getting too good with DN feasts but it sounds fucking awesome in concept

[chrome locust]

will the eikthyr t shirts be restocked for black friday?

[lyric shale]

When do yall think the next biome will be released?

[errant knoll]

Question, if I plant an ashvine and it grows, if I replace the cultivated soil with regular soil will the vineberries continue to spawn?

[foggy glacier]

the vine may wither, just like any other farmable item.

[vestal river]

why is the best looking area in the game entirely covered with mist and human sized bugs?

[foggy glacier]

all part of it's charm 😉

[vestal river]

worse mechanic ever

i wanted to play vanilla but i am kinda looking to mod it to improve the wisp

[stuck lake]

2026 i heard mach

[lyric shale]

That’s so long 💔

[shy marlin]

2026 in march is not official just fyi

[gaunt perch]

What did I even type recently?

[untold knoll]

let this be your first and final warning you empty-headed animal food-trough wiper!

[smoky quarry]

Launch date is When It's Ready!

[gaunt perch]

I be damned if this doesn’t get the same message

[stuck lake]

yep bro its never dropping ✌️

[shy marlin]

Free parry is so stupid

[light moat]

Oh? You think so? 🤔

[shy marlin]

yea

it also doesn't even pause stamina regen too which makes it even more absurd

and it also makes dodging a bit of a meme

idk take whatever i'm saying with a grain of salt 🔮

👴 Back in my day we had to practice proper stamina habits in combat

[light moat]

Yeah ok grandpa, take your meds and lay down for a bit 👴

Gotcha, yeah that’s a fair analysis. I haven’t really developed an opinion on it to be honest, but I’ve definitely noticed the stamina economy has relaxed quite a bit.

I don’t know, I suppose it is one of those things where it seemed to be changed for little to no reason?

[shy marlin]

I mean the reason is to make the game easier

[light moat]

Ah, right
Brutal survival game

Parrying is just so risk free is my biggest thing

[wooden tapir]

just eat full stam food, health food overrated

all food overrated if you are crazy like scales

[visual ivy]

And that makes weapons with weak block stat a lot harder to use

aka fist weapons

[wooden tapir]

or just go mike tyson playthrough and use only fists

[shy marlin]

Minus atgeirs but yea

[wooden tapir]

maybe ill do a fist only run next

that sounds kinda fun

[shy marlin]

sounds fun until ashlands

[visual ivy]

Atgeirs have quite a bit of block armor, like any two handed weapon

[wooden tapir]

nah ill beat fader with only fists trust

[shy marlin]

👀

[wooden tapir]

idk how im gonna be able to raid a fortress tho tbh

that one might take a bit of planning

[shy marlin]

just leeroy jenkins that shit you'll be fine

[wintry valve]

by hands

[visual ivy]

With enough determination you can beat the game with anything, but it won't make the weapon fun to use

[shy marlin]

🤓 ☝️ erm well ackshually you need a weapon that can surpass 420 dmg/min to beat fader

[wintry valve]

beat boss only with cart

[wooden tapir]

no aoe dmg and im not sure how many punches it takes to even kill 1 warrior so

thats gonna be a pain

how am i going to kill drakes and gjalls

[shy marlin]

do the speedrunning trick with the bonfires but just jump and hit em with fists for drakes

for gjalls gl

[gray sand]

Spear secondary should give more than 1 adrenaline imo.

[shy marlin]

2h swords secondary should give more than 1 adrenaline too

irongate plz 😔

[gray sand]

They give 2 on normal and 1 on alt 😄

Where the 1-h sword gives 3 on alt 😄

[shy marlin]

#balance #scales #equilibrium #idklmaoirongatethings

[gray sand]

Maybe they keeping all the balance stuff for the 1.0 update 🤷‍♂️

[shy marlin]

😏 sure

[civic stirrup]

Hey where do I get one of those pet rocks?

[shy marlin]

1000m out from center, be above 5m from sea level i think

I find all of mine in the black forest easily but they're not limited to just that biome

[civic stirrup]

Wait its something you find?

interesting

[shy marlin]

ye

[wooden tapir]

good luck staring at rocks questioning if its a pet or not

you will know when you find one tho

[civic stirrup]

kekles

[visual ivy]

Jump onto gjalls and punch them

[last otter]

https://tenor.com/view/that-is-the-best-answer-we've-had-simon-cowell-britain's-got-talent-great-answer-good-answer-gif-3157973956822169667

[visual ivy]

I did that because I'm too stubborn to use a bow