valheim-chat

[gray sand]

Lightning shotgun with horrible range and long reload time is so goooooooood

[shy marlin]

It really shines in like parry --> dundr --> parry --> dundr against morgen but that's it

[gray sand]

Yes but if I wanted to be in melee range I would just have melee weapon 😄

[barren whale]

yeah at max skill you should be able to do two shots in one parry window to instapop the morgen from full
at least on normal lmao
otherwise it's decidedly mid

you spend much more time animation locked in melee range with an actual melee weapon of comparable (burst) damage like 2h sword tho, so you can pick away at enemies pretty safely
why you'd ever do that when embers exists idk

[visual ivy]

finally got to ashlands today and damn

they weren't joking

Raided a fortress too, without a battering ram
It was hell, my group got stuck there for like a hour

[gray sand]

Yeah you are supposed to batter those 😄

[cedar stump]

omg traveling to our queen marker we fell into a mountain biome in the ocean almost froze to death then right into an ashlands biome??? with a bonemaw <.<

we all died, longship was under half hp before the bonemaw.

[visual ivy]

Yeah I felt that
Someone in our group said that "you can't get siege equipment until you get a cog from the fortress"

[gray sand]

Bonemaw vs. Sea Serpent is always fun to watch.

[visual ivy]

So we just like, tried to go in with wooden bridges (did not go well)

Worst part is enemies stacking up like crazy and destroying the server performance

[gray sand]

Staff of Fire OP.

[visual ivy]

Is embers really that good?
I'm trying other ones so far

[gray sand]

AoE damage is king vs. multiple enemies.

[visual ivy]

I can't see embers being strong in ashlands

[gray sand]

Check the damage numbers and look at how much of it is blunt, not fire.

[visual ivy]

Eh it's 40-ish blunt iirc

[gray sand]

120

[visual ivy]

Well it's at max level

[gray sand]

120 at lvl 1

[visual ivy]

And I'm on 40

[visual ivy]

Oh, well

[gray sand]

It's 120 Blunt, 120 Fire rank 1 and then only the Fire scales up.

[visual ivy]

120 at 100 levels of elemental magic

I meant

[gray sand]

True but we have training dummies now 👀

So just grab Frost Staff and machine gun that boy.

[visual ivy]

No way in hell I'm gonna spend irl hours doing this shit

They better come up with a better system instead

[gray sand]

They won't. And they system is fine as it is.

If you dislike just hit F5 and devcommand it.

[visual ivy]

No? You need to spend too much time on it I think

Considering that you loose levels when you die

Plus it's not really needed to beat the boss anyways

[gray sand]

The sole thing I would change about weapons and skills is I would remove the forced random damage range that has no purpose.

[visual ivy]

Also true

Both from enemies and player

It clashes do much with defense calculation system too

[gray sand]

Stone Axe with 100% skill is not 15 damage.
It is 13-15..
Why? What does this add to the game other than "sometimes it takes more hits than it should because... oh wait, no reason."

[fossil delta]

I think it goes back to a little bit of realism. Not every hit is perfect.

[gray sand]

Arbitrary randomness for the sake of randomness is dumb.
If we had something like "critical hit chance" that would be fine.

[visual ivy]

True, we need D&D inspired D20 dice throws

[barren whale]

insane combination of takes LMFAO
but yeah embers is pretty good in Ashlands just because its so fucking safe, ranged, and AOE
the speedrunner strat is demolisher thru walls

[lyric shale]

What do the skeletons eat

I want to feed my skelett

[wintry valve]

Vinny reached the mistlands. Vinny is not happy about it.

[shy marlin]

Mistlands best biome

[gray sand]

Everything is better than Meadows.

[wintry valve]

I absolutely hate the mistlands

I dont know what I hate the most about it though. I think its how seekers have massive kickback to all their attacks, mixed with how impractical the terrain is.

[ebon oyster]

How do we feel about multiplying drop rate in single player

[shy marlin]

It's your game do what you want to maximize your personal enjoyment

[gray sand]

Your world your rules.
Do as you please and don't care what anyone else thinks about it.

[fluid cove]

i like having 1.5x in solo world, makes it less tedious to harvest stuff, means more exploring than farming for materials and food stuff

but more than 1.5x makes it too abundant

[fluid cove]

once you get the Feather Cape it gets easier

until you got burned to death in an instant by a Gjall

🗿

[gray sand]

NO CAPES

[shy marlin]

no armor

[gray sand]

No food 😏

[shy marlin]

no metal

[wintry valve]

True about the cape. I still hate the mistlands.

[dark coyote]

I wish that drop rate and spawn frequency were two different options

[shy marlin]

Lightfood mead makes mistlands travel much easier if you're not doin that

[wintry valve]

Also im salty because I got one shotted by a fuling earlier, marking my second death.

Feels like I shouldnt have died at all

[gray sand]

if you can use it 😭

[fluid cove]

i wonder what Black Metal actually is considering the only thing that drops em are Fulings

petrified Fuling blood?

[gray sand]

Humans have iron in our blood. Fulings have blackmetal.

iirc it is actually just from meteorites.

[fluid cove]

no wonder they hit so hard, their flesh are probably dense as hell

💀

[wintry valve]

As I read, blackmetal was an alloy the fulings used to know how to make but lost after their society collapsed. Now they all wear scraps of whatever tools they used to have.

I think I read that on tv tropes. I wonder if its actually explained as such ingame, now that I think about it.

[gray sand]

There's a runestone in the game that explains the origins of it.

[wintry valve]

I want the school splitter axe

unrelatedly

what do I actually need from the mistland before I head toward the ashlands?

[fluid cove]

In a land far from here I once saw a star come unfastened from the great curtain of night and fall into the sand. It glowed red when I approached but by morning was cool. Blessed sword-flesh, furnace-food, a gift of strong metal from the Gods!

so it is meteorite metal

[wintry valve]

well then

[fluid cove]

portal materials and a lot of stamina

[wintry valve]

I need I need eitr

[gray sand]

Killing Queen with EITR balls is incredibly satisfying tbh.

[wintry valve]

bro is weaponizing chernobyl against a bunch of bugs

[fluid cove]

do you mean just dropping eitr balls everywhere in the IC and wait for the Queen to die on her own from the radioactivity

[gray sand]

Yup 😄

[fluid cove]

😭

[wintry valve]

it must take a while tho

[fluid cove]

i never thought of doing that

[gray sand]

Bring more if it is taking too long.

Last time I did it I think I had 450 balls on the floor 😄

[wintry valve]

yeah but like... dang

[fluid cove]

genuinely hilarious

bet Odin himself never thought of a Viking weaponizing radiation

[wintry valve]

Odin probablty didnt have to. Casted "powerword scrunch" on her and that was about it

[smoky quarry]

brain over matter in a way :p

[winter heath]

Just got into the mistlands and I feel like Stephen King is gonna sue someone 🤣

[earnest mountain]

I just got into Mistlands as well, well haven't traveled there yet, but I just beat Yagluth. Haven't defeated him since 2019. Didn't know walking in circles was so effective. Preparing to get wrecked in Mistlands.

[winter heath]

I'm holding up pretty well so far with full padded an black metal

I will say, the big floaty things suck so keep your eyes up

[fossil delta]

Most times they make noises, so you know they are around, but with the mists, they often stealth attack you anyways. Still, just knowing they are around is a huge help.

[wintry valve]

The trick with gjall is to have 100 in your bow skill

[fossil delta]

I'm in the 60's, I kill them just fine. A 100 skill would definitely make it happen faster.

[winter heath]

I imagine it's overkill but once I saw they did fire damage, I keep 1 or 2 resist meads and I find that reduces their damage a good amount

[fossil delta]

Yeah, with the mead active I just stand there and shoot them until they blow up. I don't take all that much damage. Its been a VERY long time since I last ran into a starred Gjall so no idea how well the mead works with them.

[young seal]

Hello can we trade item between players in valheim? I never play multiplayer

Is there someone willing to give cultist trophy? Im tired of farming frost caves and still no drop. I want to craft fenrir hood 🤌

[winter heath]

There's a help channel for those sorts of things

idk how trading works personally

The difficulty spike between a non starred and starred seeker is INSANE

Non starred aren't even a concern. I can fight 3 with no problem. I just got 2-hit by 1 star seeker, 1 of those hits being breaking my block when I parried

i'm pretty sure you can trade though

[earnest mountain]

I'm still searching for more swamps to upgrade the padded armor set before I head out

[winter heath]

I recall my friend giving me some stuff when I joined his server

[winter heath]

yeah considering I just got 2 hit, if you see something starred, just run 😅 idek what to say about that

[young seal]

#valheim-help this one?

[winter heath]

ye

[reef juniper]

Twitchers are some of the most annoyings mfs with their AI

[plush umbra]

Hi

[distant girder]

is bear meat used for anything?

[tacit crystal]

Not for any other food recipe but cooked bear meat. But it grants equal stats as minced meat sauce except 5 minutes less duration.

[distant girder]

there's no bear jerky?

[merry pebble]

Nope, but just the cooked meat already has almost the same stats as minced meat sauce 🙂

[distant girder]

that's awesome, yea i also love the balanced foods too so was hopin maybe there are more jerkies since i last played

[merry pebble]

When have you last played? 🤔

[distant girder]

uhhhh before ashlands, i think shortly after mistlands came out

[merry pebble]

Heh, then i am happy to tell you we have a new type of foods that has balanced stats 😄

[distant girder]

sweeeet

[merry pebble]

You just need o find a new trader 🙂

[distant girder]

my friend and i haven't played in a while, and we just started a new world with a friend that's never played

goin slow and enjoying showing them stuff for the first time

[merry pebble]

Niiiice, dont spoil the new guy too much stuff and dont rush 😄

[merry pebble]

Great 😄

[distant girder]

they like spoilers, oddly

but yea we haven't found the first trader yet

i'm tryin, man

it's always fun to see new players takes on ...any games really
she called greydwarves the slimy eyes creatures because she forgot the name for a sec

and i'd made a lil cooking station and then she saw it and said the teeth look great and now just needs eyes so now our cooking station is some creature named gretel
which i think it won't let me post here but i can send in the screenshots channel

[fading crater]

just came back for new update and was wondering where can i find bear and vile?

[nocturne wolf]

Bears spawn any time in black forests, viles spawn in plains at night

[fading crater]

Thanks!

[warm basin]

Hi guys, is somebody playing right now? I want to play for a while today

[cedar atlas]

just saw 3 leviathans in one spot. i dunno if thats rare or what but it was cool

[rain flare]

Not really - happens every now and again

[scenic radish]

hello

[tacit crystal]

Look no further than https://discord.com/channels/391142601740517377/1024264966712340510 👍

[nimble adder]

hey i was just wondering, i just went through 2 different burial chambers and didnt find a single surtling core in either. did they change how you get it?

[pliant hatch]

Nope, but it's always possible the SNG (Sadistic Number Generator) strikes again.

[polar osprey]

My favourite way to kill bosses is like this. Fires, balls, more fires.

[polar osprey]

No not really, I can't stand when YouTubers say Leviathan are ultra rare... Kind of like the ship wrecks too. They're everywhere.

[gaunt sable]

My entire moder mountain is in the center of mistlands and now I have to find another moder spawn lol

[merry pebble]

Or run quickly 😄

[gaunt sable]

I've opted to make a "mistlands future camp" and think about it later :P

[subtle vessel]

How the hell do I find an infested mine, I've been searching everywhere

[visual ivy]

Anyone else having huge sound clipping issues in ashlands when you're near the coast?

[pliant hatch]

Look for the Dvergr Towers where you find lots of Seekers near / on top of it.
Those quite often have an staircase leading down, which ends in an infested mine.

Another option is to look for staircases near cliffs where you find lots of seekers roaming nearby.
They often have a single working Dvergr Wisplantern and a broken one standing next to the lowest point of the staircase.

In worst case, you can upload your seed - or the map using two files - on the Valheim World Generator site and select the option to show the location of infested mines.
Seed works for new worlds, for older worlds uploading the mapfiles is better.

[dry dome]

wondering if i should move my base off the edge to the dark forest and about what size should i build to fit everything.

[subtle vessel]

Thank you, can they spawn in the dvergr towers that have dvergr in them?

[pliant hatch]

You can build some of the additions to crafting stations under the floors, behind walls or on 1x1m floor pieces attached to the walls, so space doesn't have to be an issue.

However, given that each biome gives a workstation and / or additions to other ones it might be a good idea to keep enough space available.

I personally prefer to use a basement, with the kiln, smelter and blast furnace located under the hearth as that would leave me with a single spot as chimney.
But having those outside your main building in separate crafting buildings works too.

There's no limit to what and how to build in Valheim, other than your imagination.

[pliant hatch]

Nope. These are the locations where you can find something to deal with the sap.
The infested ones are clearly free of Dvergr.

[dry dome]

ok, thanks, i am trying a solo playthrough just taking my time

Oh is it good idea to set up portal at each boss fight? im about ready for the second boss, i got some fire arrows ready about 140 should be enough i suppose

[pliant hatch]

It's one of the best ideas, actually.

If you happen to be killed by a boss you got easier access to your items as when you need to sail / run to your corpse again.

Just make sure you're placing it out of reach of there the fight will be.

However......

The location of the Elder (2nd boss) can often be used as a portal hub when you're able to mine out the area under the altar.

If you're able to do so, I advise to do it, as it would make it a lot easier to travel all over the world later.
Plus it provides you a shelter during the fight as the "roof" is indestructible while the fire you sac the items in even gives you a (very small) rested bonus.

[errant knoll]

Hot damn, 4 fortresses assaulted so far and only 8 gems :/

Average by this point, you'd expect about 14

[polar osprey]

I mean, 2 or 3 per fortress is normal.

[tiny mortar]

bruhh why are bears so rare 😭

[dry dome]

I ran into a few already in the dark forest area and they are tanky to take down. The 1 star was really bad lol i made a tunic and the rest troll

[tiny mortar]

im in late game and i cant find ANY

[neon steppe]

i run into one or two bears everytime i go into black forest

i see more bears than trolls

[tiny mortar]

its the other way around for me

[pliant hatch]

It's the rule of "The more you start looking for it, the harder it's to be found."

[tiny mortar]

-goes to look for bears
-finds troll immediately
-kills troll
-finds 1star troll right after

what is this biome?

oh a bear finally

but no trophy...

anotha one

[pliant hatch]

Have you found Haldor yet?

[tiny mortar]

i could go to the ashlands.

OMG A TROPHY

speaking of.. why are there no bear raids?

[neon steppe]

oh i forgot we can make bear rugs from trophies?

i need to craft a few and see if they look good

[chrome badge]

Hard to say, I'm guessing they decided against it, or it just hasn't been implemented yet.

[errant knoll]

3 - 4 is more normal, at least if I use the numbers on the wiki.

I ran calculations on it before, average number of gemstones per server (20 fortresses) is 71, which means you expect 3 - 4 per fortress.

Getting 2 for each of the first 4 fortresses is slightly on the unlucky side.

[polar osprey]

Go fly around a seed and check fortresses. 4 is on the higher side.

[errant knoll]

I'm just going by the %'s the wiki tells me

[polar osprey]

The Wiki also says bear trophies are a 10% drop rate.

[errant knoll]

3 - 4 was kinda what I got the first 2 times I ran through this game

[kind lodge]

As a solo player is yagluth meant to be a bit difficult?

I died like 5 times yesterday lol

[errant knoll]

He's difficult when you don't know what to expect, but once you work out his telegraphs he's a piece of cake, just requires patience to kill

[rugged bridge]

Just bring fire res wine, health pots and frostner and he turns into a joke

[errant knoll]

Silver sword if you want to make him even more of a joke

I would say joke is a bit of am exaggeration because he still does a fair bit of other damage types and you can't just stand in the fire willy nilly even with fire res pot

But fire resistance and spirit damage are both silver bullets that make him a lot easier

[rugged bridge]

Fought him with a crystal battleaxe and he was still stupid easy, and that thing hinders movement more than anything lol

It's just a health pot and fire res cycle boss really

[errant knoll]

He's no Fader for sure

[rugged bridge]

Should ask, Fader receive any changes since the beta client version?

Been seeing a lot of mentions about ashlands itself being nerfed to shit since then, didn't see anything about the boss

[errant knoll]

I don't think Faders received any changes, I could be missing something.

Fissure is still an insta death if you don't respect it

[rugged bridge]

Good, good, nice to have it keep its difficulty

[lyric shale]

The ashlands are NOT fun

[rugged bridge]

True that, it was more fun during the beta client version

Jumping off the boat straight into a 10 round wave defense

[errant knoll]

I personally disagree with that lol

[rugged bridge]

Hell yeah

[errant knoll]

I kinda wish difficulty modifiers did things like very hard is pre nerf spawns, rather than just buffing enemy health and damage numbers

Among other things of course.

Put it this way, Ashlands for me felt like too much of a departure from the rest of the game pre-nerf. Like i think it would be fine if the games difficulty curve better prepared players for it

[neon steppe]

are those tar monsters weak to something?

need to go farm up some more tar for darkwood

[errant knoll]

Blunt, spirit

I'm currently dithering between assaulting more fortresses, fighting Fader or expanding my mistybase into the adjacent plains biome

[neon steppe]

also are poison arrows really good against some specific enemies? i've got box full of them from sunken crypts and never really used them

[errant knoll]

Poison damage kinda sucks unfortunately

[kind lodge]

I always run heavy armour is that wrong?

[errant knoll]

Not necessarily, have you tried running other armor types to see how they feel?

If you just prefer the bulk the heavy armor gives you stick with it

[kind lodge]

Haven't tried

[errant knoll]

Though I would suggest that early in the game at least the alt sets outclass the heavy armor considerably

[kind lodge]

Just got to the mistlands so there is new stuff

[errant knoll]

To give you an idea: rank 2 troll armor is giving the same amount of armor as rank 1 bronze, while not slowing you down and needing considerably less gathering/processing power. Depends how you feel about killing trolls xP

[gray sand]

Not at all.

I too always run heavy.

[lyric shale]

What happens if you do those lost item quests that Hildr has, does it unlock clothing items?

[gray sand]

Yes.

It expands her inventory.

[errant knoll]

it's a trap.

Yes

[lyric shale]

Awesome

[errant knoll]

The smoldering tomb chest is worth turning in because the clothing it unlocks has a farming set bonus

And it actively improves the yields you get from harvesting

The other 2... eh, not so much, it's mostly cosmetic stuff

[kind lodge]

The ashlands weapons look so good but I know it will be a struggle when I get there

[polar osprey]

I just checked 11 fortresses. 1/0/1/2/0/2/2/0//0/2/1 is the gems count.

[gray sand]

Cosmetic vendor sells cosmetics? Noooooo. 😏

[errant knoll]

Ofc xP.

But as you well know, we are privy to information he probably isn't

[polar osprey]

Thats 1 per Fortress on average. NOT 4!

[errant knoll]

Numbers on the wiki are wrong or the rng isn't working as intended then

Which tbf its probably the latter

[polar osprey]

I can post screenshots aswell. Wiki's aren't even close to right for 90% of games.

[errant knoll]

Fair enough

[polar osprey]

Got lots of flametal though.

[errant knoll]

Just going off the limited information the Internet actually provides on it

[polar osprey]

The problem with Wiki's is anyone can update the information...

[river tapir]

yooooo

[polar osprey]

You did very well with 8 gems from 4 forts.

[errant knoll]

Well unless I look at the games code and see exactly how the rng works

I won't get an accurate calculation then

[polar osprey]

Like I said earlier, the wiki also states that bear trophies are a 10% drop. That's factually incorrect.

[errant knoll]

Idk, I never even had to check that one lol

I got the trophy on my second bear

Sounds like I'm just lucky

This save the only trophy I've desperately wanted which was a struggle to get was the cultist trophy

I've lucked into a warlock trophy really early in the ashlands, THAT one is normally pretty annoying to get

Oh right, I had to kill lots of Asksvins to get the galdr table upgrade as well. So make that 2

[tacit crystal]

I went to one of my older worlds some time ago and got 3 bears, 2 dropped trophies.

[errant knoll]

The thing with those drop rates is people are rarely going to report when they get one early, and are more likely to talk about it when they're unlucky

So part of me wonders if it is actually working as intended and we're just seeing a more vocal unlucky bunch

I was definitely lucky to get it on my 2nd bear though.

[heady parcel]

Dunno how many bears I have killed by now, but have almost four stacks of skins. Two trophies wall mounted, one rug, one went into the armour and one into a trinket, and three in storage. Feels like 10% is pretty close to the average. First one felt like forever but still came at bear #15 iirc. Not that bad.

[slender sage]

Is there a server I could join?

[gray sand]

#1024264966712340510

[errant knoll]

Oh wow, I just got "Stirred the Cauldron" and to my knowledge I'm no where near anything that would cause raids to spawn

40 metres, maybe I'm just barely on the edge. Wow, didn't know that could happen so far away

[kind lodge]

What trinkets do you recommend for mistlands?

[errant knoll]

It really depends on your playstyle and what weapons you're using

[gray sand]

Bronze remains the top trinket for the majority of the game.

[errant knoll]

Stamina regen is always a safe bet yeah

[tacit crystal]

Iron brooch is another solid trinket.

[errant knoll]

There is a problem with the mistlands where seekers resist all physical damage types so you're getting less value out of the damage buffing trinkets

And stamina regen is itself both a damage trinket and also a safety trinket in one

[clear mesa]

Anyone want to play Valheim in my world? I feel lonely.

[pliant hatch]

Someone in https://discord.com/channels/391142601740517377/1024264966712340510 might.
Perhaps ask in there?

[gray sand]

#1024264966712340510

[long peak]

i whish i could but there some homework to do :/

[errant knoll]

5th fortress has 4 gems in it (so far, need to check the inside chest)

3 Iolites.

Would be great if I was a melee build, but alas

[clear mesa]

🙁

[errant knoll]

petition to make dundr cost iolites plz

[gray sand]

So that even less people use it?

[errant knoll]

Well I mean, lightning weapon, lightning gem, just kinda makes sense doesn't it?

[gray sand]

Nope.

[fickle bramble]

petition to make trollstav useful

[gray sand]

One of the best staves isn't useful??

[fickle bramble]

staff of the wild is better

dead raiser is mostly better

[gray sand]

1 staff being better makes it useless? lmao

[fickle bramble]

yeah but like reduce the eitr cost or smthn

[errant knoll]

I mean it would make more sense for it to use an iolite than a bloodstone, iolites are really low.

Mage gem economy is 2 staves using bloodstone, a trinket option using bloodstone, and one stave using jade

[gray sand]

Take a minute to fully formulate your opinion and what you're asking for, then retype out your position instead of just "make it useful, no wait I mean, no wait I mean..."
We'll be here 👍

[fickle bramble]

🙏

[errant knoll]

It does logically make sense to give the electric weapon the electric gem as a cost, even if it would make it "worse" because iolites are really good for other weapons

[gray sand]

What I'm hearing is "Magic makes bloodstones massively more useful than other weapon types do." 😄

[fickle bramble]

reduce the eitr cost of the trollstav so less eitr food heavy builds can use it and so it gets buffed because it's not that good seeing as you have to fight it after if it dies, and staff of the wild can deal more dmg

[gray sand]

Counter-question: Are you not running 2 EITR foods at a baseline anyway?

[errant knoll]

Single player experience as a mage is running into a fortress, getting iolites and not getting new tools to play with using them.

Bloodstones are still generally in demand anyway due to things like the gem cutter

[shy marlin]

Let's not buff mage lol

[fickle bramble]

well I personally do but the people I play with use 1 of each food type cuz they dont like getting killed 24/7

[polar osprey]

If you want to shoot more eat more mage food

[gray sand]

Just gem cutter and then all the rest go to mage items because red weapons are largely inferior to blue and green.

[errant knoll]

Also trollstav is literally fine as it is

[nocturne wolf]

You don't need health food if you have staff of protection

[gray sand]

Scale issue 🤷‍♂️ (for them, not you)

[errant knoll]

I just think the dundr should use iolites for thematic reasons more so than any balance

[fickle bramble]

ig it's just because if you don't know how to play mage well its eh (unless you have staff of the wild)

[errant knoll]

People get caught up in the realism of things like limited inventory space and Carry capacity, but then don't think it matters for things like what a weapon is made out of.

[gray sand]

So what I am getting from this is that trollstav doesn't need anything? People just need to understand how to play mage better?

[fickle bramble]

I thought green also made things not be able to attack you but then an immobilised askivin jumped over a lava pit and killed me

[gray sand]

Green is for bows.

[fickle bramble]

not making the mistake again

[polar osprey]

Lightning is for axes ":D

[fickle bramble]

the realism is that you should have 5 inventory slots

[gray sand]

Ling Axes are the most aura-farming thing they have added to the game tbh.

[fickle bramble]

that's true

[polar osprey]

zap zap bang zap bang aoe bang zap

[gray sand]

Ling Slayer does work too though.

[errant knoll]

Eh, slow slashes

[gray sand]

No MtP.

[errant knoll]

I'd prefer to do like, sword and board with lightning gem than slayer

[gray sand]

Ling Spear though 🥵

[errant knoll]

Lightning spear is great yes

[polar osprey]

I can't wait for Ashlands. I'm not very far on this playthrough.

[foggy glacier]

What about it, I’ve never been a spear guy

[gray sand]

Fastest attspd in the game means more ling procs.

[errant knoll]

Spear skill levels up really fast, fast attack speed with lightning gem

[polar osprey]

I've killed Ek, but I'm almost done farming all my iron :P. Chairs work great. Skipping Elder and Bonemass until I kill Moder.

[errant knoll]

The only drawback is pierce damage is crap vs bosses

[gray sand]

*Some bosses.

[errant knoll]

Right but we're talking lightning gem

Queen and Fader are both pierce resistant

Because bows exist everything else with pierce damage kinda gets a shaft

[fickle bramble]

maces are the best weapon imo

[gray sand]

Best is subjecthive.

[polar osprey]

Maces you have to always be in melee range... Bows you can chill up above your target. Magic is super cool too, but My favourite has always been swords'. Heavy stab attack is so good.

[gray sand]

Once you cross iron, maces have too much knockback for follow-up hits. Making it take longer to kill things.

[polar osprey]

Meanwhile my sword sticks ya 3-4 times before you stagger back to me 🙂

[chrome badge]

Does harpoon negate knockback?

[polar osprey]

Like if your friend harpoons a mob and you attack?

[errant knoll]

Early in the game Maces are king, but they really struggle to keep up with slashing damage weapons later in the game I found

[chrome badge]

iirc you can leave it attached and switch weapons.

[errant knoll]

Mistwalker and the Berserkir axes are both so good

[polar osprey]

My two favs

[polar osprey]

Time to test?

[errant knoll]

And Dyrnwyn might be alright in the deep north

[chrome badge]

I would but I am on my way to work 😛

[errant knoll]

Right now as an actual weapon it feels kinda meh for the effort you go through to get it, just looks cool as hell

[polar osprey]

I can go look for a Levi quick. I just got my Karve haha.

Gives me a side mission for the morning. (Hope no one knows and spoils the results)

[chrome badge]

Let me know! 🤘

[polar osprey]

Booting up now

[errant knoll]

I've definitely swapped weapons with a harpoon attached, never tried it on a leviathan but it worked when I was trying to move my lox about.

[gray sand]

I just want an enchanted spear that auto-returns 😭

[pliant hatch]

That's called a Boomerang.

[errant knoll]

I feel like a spear you craft using a thunderstone and refined eitr (amongst other resources) could be cool for that

Like a lightning spear that fizzles and comes back

[gray sand]

Boomirgn* if we try to make it Norse 😁

[pliant hatch]

I think Boomr-ang might be an option as well.

[gray sand]

Boomer Ang is just the sequel to Last Airbender 😏

[pliant hatch]

So, how about Boomir-Angr?

[undone garnet]

Hi there fellow vikings! Is there any option to reset biome name and sound when entering new biome? Its kinda weird but i like this pop up when im crossing to the new land never discovered before like plains or ocean. Sadly it happens to me when i was trying to reach bonemass spawn (there was a frikkin 1x1 chunk of plains in the middle of ocean) and im furious now. I like this popping out when im entering exact order of the biomes black forest>swamp>mountaints etc.

[tacit crystal]

Klossen and Storm Star are both great maces. 🤌

[past heath]

i was wondering is there any ukrainian valheim players who would want to tag along?

[tacit crystal]

You could search or post in https://discord.com/channels/391142601740517377/1024264966712340510. 👍

[past heath]

Oh thanks so much

[barren whale]

once you start attacking it releases the harpoon, but you can stay attached indefinitely if its just friends/allies attacking
harpoon + Wild is extremely meta rn for anything that can survive more than a couple thwacks

[errant knoll]

I've got 6 gems in fortress no.5. That's great!

... still no bloodstones

Only I can somehow manage to be unlucky in a lucky way

4 iolites though.

[visual ivy]

no ashlands polearm :(

[dawn cedar]

Yo next possible sale for valheim will be at winter sale right?

50% off?

[gray sand]

I always forget how overpriced and greedy this game is.

[pliant hatch]

You better ask that at the Steam forum.
The Devs here have no influence about how much off a game will be. And most likely not or very little influence if a game will be on sale or not.

[dawn cedar]

Especially when currency ratio is 1:3 and you have to get it for 2 other people 💔

[dawn cedar]

Oh thx but do you have any idea? From previous years?

For example as far as i know last at winter sale game was 50% off

[gray sand]

People are forcing you to buy them the game?

[dawn cedar]

Noot really it's other way around I really wanna get my boys on this game

[gray sand]

So it's more choosing to than have to.

[dawn cedar]

One of em is my brother

[dawn cedar]

Yep but to be fair even jf i bought it flr myself its relatively expensive

Transfers to around 60 of my currency and keep in mind my salary is 4/ hour

💔

[polar osprey]

So I only got 26/30 chitin from the Levi 🙁

[tacit crystal]

At least bigger sales like Winter sale has included 50% off from Valheim in past.

[stuck lake]

im trying to open the fortress with a battering ram

but its not working

ive done it like 30 times atleast

[torpid patrol]

quick question can you place on an item stand a dvrger lantern?

[undone garnet]

being in the mountains doesnt give me freezing status. I just came there so dont have any armor to prevent that and also i didnt choke resist potion. Wtf is going on? xD

[shy marlin]

any mods?

[tacit crystal]

Which side you trying? You need to face towards what you want to hit.

[stuck lake]

wdym

im hitting the door with the front of the battle ram

[undone garnet]

few, but these are mods like for configurable smelters, fetilizer for crops and extra slots

nothing really to messing with player status lol

[tacit crystal]

Which side faces the door, the one you're in or the one where you put fuel in?

[shy marlin]

Hard to say mods can do weird stuff, what's your specific load out? (Armor, potions)

[stuck lake]

we need fuel in it?

[tacit crystal]

Yes. Wood or ashwood.

[stuck lake]

i didnt even realise

[tacit crystal]

Don't remember if fine or core can used too but ash and normal woods at least.

You can get ashwood easily by breaking the banners next to the door.

Usually 1 wood is enough for breaking the door.

[stuck lake]

thank you it worked now

[gray sand]

Note: I find it much better to break a wall, not the door.

The wall spikes that hang down will damage any charred trying to come through the hole you made. So it is a very good chokepoint.

[undone garnet]

iron armor, iron tools, basic pots for healing, stamina

i will try to open the game without mods maybe

[shy marlin]

yea do that

If the issue persists I'll do some testing myself and find whats up, can also validate game files too

[stuck lake]

i got iolite now i can get the chain lightning

[pliant hatch]

Keep in mind there's often a small snowy patch of land at the border of the mountains and meadows / black forest that may give the impression you're in the mountains, but actually aren't.

[gray sand]

Make you some axes!

[undone garnet]

nah, im in the actual mountains, far far above normal level. Thats why im curious whats going on

[stuck lake]

why not nidhogg

are they better?

[tacit crystal]

Sword is good choice too.

[gray sand]

Dual wielding axes is just a whole vibe.
But if you want pokey sword that is valid too.

Personally if I make a sword it is Slayer.

[stuck lake]

what is slayer

[gray sand]

Two handed.

[tacit crystal]

2h sword.

[stuck lake]

is it good enough to sacrifice my shield

[gray sand]

Good is a point of view, Anakin.

Blocking sheet is pinned in this channel if you need to see the exact things the Slayer can/cannot block.

[stuck lake]

whatgs the recipe for it i dont think i have it unlocked

[tacit crystal]

2h weapons are bit riskier choice due to not able to have shield, but you can usually parry almost any non star mob on same tier.

[tacit crystal]

Have you beaten big rolly fella? One of their drop is required for base Slayer.

[stuck lake]

no i havent

my friend has he has it unlocked

[tacit crystal]

When you pick the drop (||sinew||) you'll get it.

[stuck lake]

ok i unlocked it my friend gave me sinew

and i can add a gem to it right

i think ima go with nidhogg and then a tower shield

[tacit crystal]

Once you craft any of the Ashlands weapons it will unlock any gem variants for that weapon you have found so far.

So if you craft Nidhögg you'll unlock the gem variants for Nidhögg.

[stuck lake]

ohhh ok

[gray sand]

Upgrading non-enchanted weapons is a waste of materials though.

[tacit crystal]

You actually use the base weapon as "ingredient" to craft the gem variant of that weapon.

[stuck lake]

i crafted nidhogg the thundering

[errant knoll]

Nidhog the thundering was my weapon of choice first playthrough

[stuck lake]

now i just need the rest of my armor and a shield

its so annoying cuz i keep dying so my stuff is low level

[gray sand]

Ask armor ftw.

[stuck lake]

how do i get my attributes to get up 💔

[gray sand]

Game isn't balanced around skill levels, you good.
They are literally just free stats.

[stuck lake]

ohh ok

[gray sand]

We do have training dummies now though for weapon leveling.

[stuck lake]

yeah i have one of those

[gray sand]

Block leveling is still just summoning multiple Elders.

Bonemass is also excellent for leveling any non-blunt weapon.

[stuck lake]

its there any ashland weapon i should replace demolisher for tho

[gray sand]

Nope.

[visual granite]

were there any changes to xp gain in CTA? (i.e, is xp still based on number of hits rather than damage dealt)

[merry pebble]

Still the same 😄

[visual granite]

damn, that sucks. any changes to sneaking/detection?

[merry pebble]

Nope

[visual granite]

😔

i hope both get some TLC in 1.0

[hearty niche]

re: training dummies - in games with more players, you frequently find yourself waiting on others to go on adventures to the training dummies are a nice way to kill time and you get skill as a side effect.

[hearty niche]

I rocked Frostner a lot in Ashlands - the charred are susceptible to blunt and spirit damage and the frost effect helped slow down their moves so othey telegraph even more

[stuck lake]

what unlocks that

[hearty niche]

Mountains stuff?

I don't remember everything you have to have - silver.

[stuck lake]

how much base damage does it do without upgrades

ill check wiki

[neon steppe]

you needed something from vendor to craft frostner

[tacit crystal]

Silver, ancient bark, freeze glands, ymir flesh.

[stuck lake]

the flametal mace does more damage

idk if its better tahn demolisher tho

i need a good loadout for the final boss

[tacit crystal]

I mean, it's not the biggest damage number weapon as it's 3 tiers below compared to Ashlands weapons, but as starting weapon in Ashlands it still perform quite well due to the slow effect of frost damage and some extra spirit damage.

[ancient slate]

I've played valheim for so long but never made it past the 4th boss. What tips do yall have/what am I missing?

[neon steppe]

did you eat barley wine mead?

or was that 5th boss

[tacit crystal]

That is unlocked in next biome.

[neon magnet]

Why didn't you make it further? Lack of direction, too hard enemies, frustration with logistics or... 🙂 I imagine tips will depend on what you're struggling with

[neon steppe]

idk why but i never count eikthyr as boss in my mind

[tacit crystal]

He still is considered as one, think it as tutorial boss.

[stuck lake]

eikthyr was cool

[ancient slate]

I get stuck on an exploration streak quite often, just viewing the next areas. Sometimes I'm overwhelmed and start over.

[tacit crystal]

Having both ranged and melee weapons is good idea, as the boss can fly but also lands occasionally.
Best foods, upgraded equipment, rested buff, hp/stamina/utility meads recommended.

[stuck lake]

should i get dyrnwrym or wahtever

[cedar stump]

im so sad that we got fkd over on our way to explore our queen continent uuugh, that mountain biome in the middle of the ocean ticking us down into random ashland biome with a bonemaw slaying us all and the longship x) (we ended reloading a save 2 hours earlier...)

[tacit crystal]

If you want. It's quite fun sidequest. 👍

[zealous bridge]

Mountain stuff and something from Haldor will unlock frostner

[stuck lake]

is it better than the nidhogg thunder sword

cause it seems like a long quest

[zealous bridge]

I don’t think it out performs in the Ashlands but assuming it will in deep north

[stuck lake]

so it would be a good investment

[tacit crystal]

At current state, not that much. It has +10 added slash compared to Nidhögg and 10 fire, like Nidhögg variants have 10 lightning/poison. It looks fire tho.
Although, it might get some changes when Deep North is released, who knows.

[zealous bridge]

Brutal hugs

[cedar stump]

its so funny the first time we barely stumble into ashlands, get welcomed by a bonemaw while boat is under 50% xd

[gray sand]

Quest sword may as well be a Hildr reward with how cosmetic-only it is.

[stuck lake]

aw

[gray sand]

Bonemaws make an excellent HP food bump.

[stuck lake]

you can put gems into flametal mace right

[gray sand]

[cedar stump]

Yeah I wanted that meat but unfortunately after 2 hours of sailing we all died along with the boat x)

[neon steppe]

none of you had bows?

[gray sand]

Nuuuuuu.

[cedar stump]

boat was like 35% we didnt have time to down it

we had been sailing for like 2 hours or so, should have repaired on a coast tho

[tacit crystal]

All Flametal made melee and ranged weapons have their gem variants.

[zealous bridge]

Could also put a workbench on a spire and repair mid trip.

[stuck lake]

wwwww

i feel like the jade would be good for mace

[errant knoll]

Those rocky spires on the way into the ashlands can fit a workbench, so all you needed to do, assuming you had some wood, was stop at one, repair, and start again

[cedar stump]

oh there were noone in sight

[errant knoll]

None? That's very strange

[cedar stump]

we were in the middle of the ocean with a weird buggy "ashlands and mountain biome" in the middle of the ocean

I didnt see any spires/burning ashlands kinda thing

[errant knoll]

That's very unusual lol

[cedar stump]

we had to sail in the mountain ocean for like 2minutes almost ticking down to 0 into that ashland+bonemaw ocean haha

[tacit crystal]

It is good choice. I also like the jade axes personally. 👍

[gray sand]

Green is for bows 😏

[errant knoll]

I've been farming a bunch of lightning weapons since iolites have been the most abundant gem on my current save

They're mostly decoration unfortunately, though I am actively using the berserkir axes as a replacement to my bm axe

[stuck lake]

i dont know if i should get berserker photos

axes*

[tacit crystal]

They fast.

[gray sand]

Axes need to be blue, just... you're doing yourself a disservice if you make them anything besides blue.

[stuck lake]

the iolite?

[gray sand]

Yes.

[stuck lake]

what does the lightning effect do also

[gray sand]

Procs aoe chain lightning across multiple enemies.

[stuck lake]

ohhh

[gray sand]

Also deals base lightning damage to primary target, which helps you stagger them faster.

[errant knoll]

It's a chance per hit, so attacks with rapid fire hits proc it more often.

The chain lightning effect is busted

Like, actually busted

[stuck lake]

ill get axes

with a green mace

[tacit crystal]

If you have already Nidhögg the Thunder you can see the effects for them.

[stuck lake]

true

[gray sand]

Alternate attack on axes is a forward jump that can be used both to close distance and dodge/create distance.

[stuck lake]

whats klossen

[gray sand]

Mace.

[stuck lake]

how do i get it

[errant knoll]

Flametal mace upgrade

[tacit crystal]

It's the jade mace.

[stuck lake]

ohhhhhh

[gray sand]

Green is for bows 😏

[stuck lake]

smart

[tacit crystal]

Lightning bow goes brrr.

[gray sand]

Red is also for bows if you run the vomiting sniper build 😄

[stuck lake]

is the big crossbow good

i use that as my bow

[gray sand]

Good is a point of view, Anakin.

[errant knoll]

I've got a nice decoration next to my bed, thundering slayer and the jade ashfang.

In the rare event of a death I take those and my flametal armor and retrieve my gear

[gray sand]

Do you have fun using it?

[stuck lake]

its annoying to reload

[gray sand]

Odd way to answer a yes/no question 😭

[barren whale]

odd question to ask

[tacit crystal]

Have you tried Arbalest?

[stuck lake]

thats what i use

[gray sand]

No, very valid question to ask.

[errant knoll]

I think crossbows make a lot more sense to use if your regular bow skill is low, but that's just me

[gray sand]

@stuck lake if you have fun using it = it is good.

[stuck lake]

i wish there was a flametal crossbow

[errant knoll]

Levelled skills use regular bow all day long

[tacit crystal]

There is.

[errant knoll]

There is, the Ripper

It's the Ashlands crossbow

[stuck lake]

really??

my prayers have been answered

the ripper sounds awesome

[gray sand]

Either bows need an attspd nerf or, imo, how to fix the disparity -- make crossbow shoot through enemies, starting with 0 and +1 penetration per 20 skill points.

[errant knoll]

High skill level bows in general need a nerf, and then also remove the pierce resistance effect from Queen and Fader.

Crossbows are bursty but slow, they have a niche

[stuck lake]

ima get all flametal stuff and kill everything

[gray sand]

Don't touch resistances 🤷‍♂️
I'm talking about the comparison of both at 100 skill. Bows are just objectively superior. Hence the 2 paths I suggested.

[stuck lake]

imagine level 100 run

it would be so fast

[tacit crystal]

You probably need to kill bonemaw for its drops for the Ripper.

[errant knoll]

Wasn't the justification for bosses being pierce resistant precisely because high level bows are just that op?

I don't see why other pierce weapons should have to suffer just cause bows are nuts

[gray sand]

Not all bosses are 🤷‍♂️
Also bows by their nature are OP, that is why we invented them IRL 😄

[stuck lake]

let me check wiki

[errant knoll]

The current 2 late game bosses have both been, and it seems extremely intentional and targeted

[stuck lake]

oh yeah i will need bonemaw

[gray sand]

So unless they create a new damage type specifically called "bow/arrow damage", spears/atgeirs are going to get shafted (PUN).

[stuck lake]

let me make a list of all the stuff i'll need

[gray sand]

You need a hero!
Just hold out for your hero till the end of the niiiiiight. 🎶

[reef juniper]

Am I crazy or is Flametal armor an incredibly underwhelming upgrade

at least when going from Carapace to Flametal

[gray sand]

Do those have to be mutually exclusive? 😉

[reef juniper]

Apologies but I'm still learning how to properly use that term lol

Don't understand what you mean

[gray sand]

If they are mutually exclusive it means You Crazy or Armor Underwhelming.

If they are not, it means it's possible both are true 😄

[rugged bridge]

They should, bows suck, takes too long to kill things with them, may as well give spears and atgeirs their needed glory

[merry pebble]

Same step up as padded --> carapace 🤷‍♂️

[reef juniper]

Mutually exclusive = only one can be true?

[gray sand]

"Bows suck" is a molten lava temperature take tbh.

[rugged bridge]

Viking drawing a bow string like it's made out of titanium so he takes a good 5 seconds to draw it fully

[reef juniper]

Bows are quite goated

[gray sand]

Correct.

[gray sand]

Are you at negative skill points or something? lol

[reef juniper]

Mind you it's very possible to level certiain stats afk or with little effort

[rugged bridge]

Just a utility for killing flying rascals and running from combat

[slate grove]

Update: I have obtained access to silver without beating bonemass 😄

[gray sand]

Bows are in need of a nerf because as you level they turn into literal machine guns.

[rugged bridge]

Absolutely 0 reason for me to even think of using a bow unless there's a flying mob or because of deer

[reef juniper]

Good for both of these scenarios yes but bows later on start having much more utility with the additional damage they do

Like a bow doing innate poison or spirit damage

[rugged bridge]

Sounds more like a skill issue (and I mean that literally, the skill itself) rather than the weapon

[gray sand]

If you don't see a reason for them, that is valid for you, individually.
It does not mean bows suck in a general capacity.

[rugged bridge]

They do, but apparently their skill doesnt

[gray sand]

They do for you, individually.
They do not in the general sense.

[rugged bridge]

If that skill didn't do what you said it does, the weapon would be worthy of being dropped in the nearest puddle

[gray sand]

False.

[rugged bridge]

Especially in late game

[reef juniper]

I was really disappointed when going from my level 3 Carapace armor to level 1 Flametal full set only yieled like an additional 6 armor

[gray sand]

Carapace Armor without cape is honestly my favorite look in the game.

[merry pebble]

It is the exact same as for all heavy armours 🙂

[reef juniper]

And the innate "heat" resist is certainly useful in a way, I just wish it wasn't basically "You've probably finished getting most of the flametal you need, so now here's a buff for making flametal midlly easier to get! (not really)"

[reef juniper]

I felt like it mattered a bit more earlier on but maybe that was just because of me being earlier in progression and seeing it as a bigger step

Rather than just looking at the armor change

[lusty dirge]

Yeah, the heat resist is seriously underwhelming

[merry pebble]

Possibly 😄

[reef juniper]

It kinda sucks just how much of this game is intensely underwhelming

[rugged bridge]

Similar situation with elder's power

[reef juniper]

I've been really wanting to get into Enshrowded recently because of the skill tree system it has

[rugged bridge]

"here's a power that helps with mining now that you've finished the copper grind" even though eikthyr and bonemass exist, and you find most of the iron in chests anyways

Least moder's power got something useful to it

[reef juniper]

Not to mention that later on (and just in general) you would prefer having combat assistance abilities when you're out mining

[lusty dirge]

I liked elders power for flametal

[gray sand]

You individually may have found more iron in chests, but that does not make it a generally true statement.
This last run I went through 27 crypts and only 2 of them had any iron in any chests.

[reef juniper]

💀

[rugged bridge]

Elder's power just serves as that one power you use that one time you're removing the nearest forest

[reef juniper]

The game does not like you it seems

[gray sand]

Game is fine, I still got nearly 2k iron.

[rugged bridge]

cool story bro

[gray sand]

We are not related.

[rugged bridge]

God I hope not

[gray sand]

And yet you spoke as though we are... 🤔

[rugged bridge]

Sounds like I'm talking to a fossil

Oh well

[wintry valve]

the mistland is the WORST biome ever

[gray sand]

Meadows is terrible, yes 😏

[wintry valve]

no u

[gray sand]

👀

[wintry valve]

for real tho, everything is so complicated

walking is complicated, seeing is complicated, building anything is complicated

[gray sand]

<insert Avril Lavigne gif here>

[wintry valve]

now I need 5 more cores, 10 probably I dont know

[gray sand]

Oh in the beginning I just build forge and if I need table I destroy forge. Swapping what the cores are used for is simpler than trying to find more crypts 😄

[rugged bridge]

Why do you think so many people drop the game when they come to it lol

No wonder that little mod that boosts your wisplight is so popular

[wintry valve]

I was not aware peopel dropped it at the mistland

[gray sand]

Some do. I would not class it as "many."

[rugged bridge]

4 different people I've played with had given up after trying it

[wintry valve]

Oh also everything needs black metal there, and of course its freaking far from everywhere and nothing drops black metal there

[rugged bridge]

Even I detest the biome, horrible design

[gray sand]

@shy marlin people are hating on perfection again... 🙁

[rugged bridge]

Visually cool, but gameplay's just a hinderance

[rugged bridge]

Reminds me of the plains using mostly iron as well lol

[wintry valve]

at least the plains tends to neighbour swamps

and the plains isnt an absolute chore to walk 5 meters

[merry pebble]

Bzzzzzzzzzz~

[rugged bridge]

They tend to neighbour mistlands a lot too in my experience if you go further out

Still doesn't justify it to me though

Making me go back to raid crypts which are just a chore that don't pose any threat

[wintry valve]

No get that. I made a small base in the mistland and about 50 meters away theres a small patch of plains. Its so annoying to get there that I just dont

and then a one star bug spawns that throws you five miles away

yeet

[lusty dirge]

Mistlands is probably my favorite biome

[wintry valve]

I do not believe you at all

I cannot fathom anyone can like this biome other than trying to be contrarian

[rugged bridge]

My first time around I used to chase hares out into the plains so I could easily kill them without 85 degree terrain and mist clouding everything further than 10 steps from you

[lusty dirge]

You do you, I know I'm not the only one that likes it

[merry pebble]

That is the same as someone else saying "I cannot fathom anyone can dislike this biome other than trying to be in the loud group" 🤷‍♂️

[wintry valve]

no because the mistland is a legitimate horrible place

[merry pebble]

In your opinion 🙂

[rugged bridge]

Only thing that stuck with me as a really cool addition in mistlands were the dvergr

[wintry valve]

I hate trekking through it even with the feather cape and flametal armor

[rugged bridge]

Glad that carried over to ashlands, hope it does to deep north

[wintry valve]

also I dont know why but I feel like monsters hits waaaaay harder in mistland, comparatively to when one's reaches any other biomes

Theres one enemy in the ashland that really scares me. In the mistland, everything does.

[rugged bridge]

Tick's gonna get you while you sleep

[wintry valve]

oh yeah, ticks. does 5 damage, except if its one star then it does 50% more, which is something like 40 damage per seconds

[lusty dirge]

Starred ticks are probably the scariest enemies in mistlands

[wintry valve]

no, im scared more of starred reapers

[lusty dirge]

Except aggravated starred dvergr mages

Seekers hit hard, but they are usually quite easy to keep at a distance

[rugged bridge]

I'm more scared of fortunately no starred fall damage

[wintry valve]

I remember one was at some dungeon entrance, it would instakill anyone that got inside

Fall damage does a maximum of 100 damage. So at least its predictable.

[reef juniper]

Wtf was IronGate cooking when they half baked the Black Forge 💀

You need Black Forge upgrades that seemingly don't exist to upgrade Flametal tier items

[merry pebble]

Yes, you cant currently fully upgrade ashlands gear, same as it was in mistlands

[reef juniper]

Not a big fan of that personally

Kinda just adding to the quickly increasing list of frustrations I'm having with Valheim

[plush ferry]

damn thats crazy, anyways, how would i go about making a maypole

[reef juniper]

Maypole, is that the thing used for that one holiday?

[merry pebble]

I cant say i am fan of it, but i also cant say it bothers me, you can still fight just fine using not fully upgraded equipment, and keep in mind that all biomes are balanced to be doable with lvl1 gear 🙂

[reef juniper]

Summer something I thought?

[merry pebble]

You cant outside of using commands right now 🙂

[plush ferry]

rip

i need 1 more comfort to feel cool

[reef juniper]

also this gripe is a little less bad but it still bothers the hell out of me, I still think the enemy AI in this game is egregiously bad with certain ones

Like the greyling and twitcher AI

You attack them once and they run for a full mile away from you and never stop

[merry pebble]

Twitchers indeed sometimes just go off somewhere, greylings are not so bad imo

[reef juniper]

Greylings are definitely less of an issue for a few reasons, but I think they got the Twitcher AI from somewhere

[plush ferry]

they fear you duh

be less cool and intimidating

[fossil delta]

While I like the Mistlands, I do not see myself ever liking the Ashlands. Its just pure ugly.

[merry pebble]

I think it accomplishes the intended hell-like feel quite well 😄
But you dont have to necessarily like it ofcourse

[reef juniper]

I love me and my friend specifically going to sleep to hopefully avoid a crazy number of spawns, then immediately finding ourselves swarmed by like a dozen Ashlands enemies at once

Also I wish being a tank felt like more of an actual class / playstyle

I'm trying to do big thunky armor and big thunky sword

[gray sand]

We have no taunt, so tank won't ever really feel like tank.

[fossil delta]

You have to be so methodical at wiping out the spawners just to kind of make things calm down in Ashlands.

[reef juniper]

I mean that doesn't even do anything

The natural spawn numbers are literally worse than spawners

Me and my friend get Morgens spawning directly outside of our teleporter decently often, along with however many other enemies

[gray sand]

You will reverse this statement when you run into the elite spawners that pump out only starred enemies 😄

[errant knoll]

Cutting down the spawners definitely helps a bit.

[reef juniper]

Oh I mean yeah it does help

[errant knoll]

The thing is enemies hear you even from pretty far away if you get into a fight

[reef juniper]

It just doesn't make the Ashlands feel even remotely reasonable lol

[errant knoll]

I notice that after some time cutting spawners down the ashlands does start to quiet down a bit

It just takes a while

[plush ferry]

put crafting benches down around base w torcches

[errant knoll]

There's always going to be enemies but it's definitely less

[plush ferry]

spawns drop a lot

[fossil delta]

Oh, it does, but not by nearly enough in my opinion. Ashlands makes any other biome seem calm and quiet in comparison. Even after destroying the 6 spawners in the area. Even that isn't what bugs me the most. The place is just ugly, Endless ugly.

[errant knoll]

That is kinda the point to be fair. The reason why we get a Stone portal to transport metals around is because we literally don't want to stay any longer than we have to

[zealous bridge]

I also have portals much less spread out and protected by walls in Ashlands to reduce the distance and aggravation of any death runs

[errant knoll]

Asksvins lay eggs. You tame them on site, then claim the reward back home

Vineberries grow outside the biome too

The whole design screams "this place isn't welcoming. Get the stuff and get out"

[fossil delta]

Another thing irritating me is on our last play through. Nice big island. No fortess'. Only one flametal sinking pillar. Tons of everything else, though. So we will have to get back on that big clunky tank of a boat, and find another island to even get enough Flametal to make a decent amount of the new gear, let alone find stones.

[errant knoll]

That's just rng being a pain unfortunately

The first thing I ever found In the ashlands was Faders boss altar lol. There was nothing else on that island

[fossil delta]

I get that. Doesn't make it any less irritating, though.

[errant knoll]

Kinda felt like a waste of time in the moment

[reef juniper]

I think another two very deep rooted issues I've noticed is that I really hate how basically every action takes stamina, literally almost everything you do. Second is that there are so many items that get used for a few very specific things and will just take up your space endlessly

I wish there was an item filter for what can autopickup and what can't

Like an item discovery menu that shows every unlocked log and lets you select from it what can be picked up or spawned in general

[errant knoll]

Yeah, whenever people talk about how the inventory space limitations are the way they are to promote decision making I can't help but think that it was definitely the case... before the game added several updates

[reef juniper]

That is a horrendous reason if that is the case

[errant knoll]

Which added a considerable amount of inventory creep, whether that be via meads or just more raw stuff dropping

To be clear I'm agreeing with you here the raw amount of backtracking to drop materials you have to do in the biome is a pain

[reef juniper]

My friend and I installed an armor slot mod that gives you auto equipping armor slots, a utility and trinket slot, and 3 quick item slots that I use for potions

And even then we still struggle hard with space

It was absolutely bad befor the mods

[errant knoll]

And yes an autopickup filter would help a lot

I don't need to be picking up prostitute powder, sulphur, charred bones, volture meat - all stuff I don't care about

[neon steppe]

they should pick couple of QoL things from terraria

like crafting from boxes

[fossil delta]

I don't seem to have the issues with inventory others have, but I'd still like a filter to pick up only what I need at the time, rather than all or nothing.

[neon steppe]

and autosort loot to boxes

[fossil delta]

That would be a serious time saver.

[errant knoll]

I'll put it this way.

At times in the black forest and the swamp I'll have to fight a bunchof greydwarves/draugr. At least they drop things I care about

Charred bones are so blegh

I get that you need them for arrows but the raw amount you get is silly

[reef juniper]

I also wish boss drops had any relevance after you fight them the first time

[fossil delta]

I need those arrows, though. So I am fine with the bones.

[merry pebble]

Provided you already have the same item in the box we already have basically that 🤔 just hold E while opening the box

[reef juniper]

You fight bosses a single time then they are immediately no longer useful in any way

Give them some hidden / super rare drops or something

[neon steppe]

in terraria you press one button and it sorts everything from your inventory to nearby boxes all in neat order

[errant knoll]

I like to fight the bosses a second time for my own personal trophy room

[fossil delta]

They are a boss, not a mob, so I don't expect fighting them more than once to be important. I just like having their trophies on my walls too. Plus, with like Moder, having more of her tears can be useful.

[reef juniper]

That is unironically the only use for fighting them again though

Except for the odd instance you need to get more tears from Moder

[merry pebble]

Seems too easy to me really, but sure, that is neat. I still like that you actually have to know where your stuff is.

[errant knoll]

Moder and Queen if you like having artisan tables in multiple bases and don't wanna keep dismantling them.

Queen also doubles up as a royal jelly farm with the seeker broods she spawns

[merry pebble]

Apart from decoration, why would you need more than 5 tables?

[neon steppe]

i'm fine with current inventory space but there is a reason every other game uses dedicated armor slots

not sure why we have both VERY limited inventory and KG limit

just having KG limit would be enough

[reef juniper]

That's what I'm wondering lol

[neon steppe]

i mean weight limit for my american friends

[reef juniper]

True but you can get quite a lot from infested mines which works quite well

[fossil delta]

Servers with 10 people who each want their own bases. I've been on them.

[reef juniper]

I think this doesn't change the answer though. It's the same exact thing for each person, just multiplied.

[errant knoll]

To be fair I found an infested mine that has both lots of tick respawns and 45 royal jelly when the nodes respawn, I just use that xP

[merry pebble]

Well, from your message it seems that you think there is some merit in fighting Moder again for more tears, i am asking what those would be for 😄

[errant knoll]

If I wanna just farm cheap mage food like stuffed mushrooms and seeker asspics

[reef juniper]

No I meant that was "If for whatever reason someone wants more tears" because there is no real reason for you to fight Moder again for tears

You get enough in the first place that it's an unneccessary thing

[fossil delta]

Yeah, several of my towers typically have a mine in their basement for similar reasons.

[errant knoll]

I don't have that, but then again I chose to build my base right next to 8 (!!!) Roots

All the sap I could ever want, right at my finger tips lol

[reef juniper]

Also I am so frustrated with the fact that my Scourging Slayer can't be upgraded even a single time right now and will break increadibly fast if I'm fighting the giant hordes that show up in the Ashlands

[fossil delta]

The towers are not my bases, just resource locactions that are well protected. So mini bases, at best. No cooking, no sleeping, just resource gathering.

[merry pebble]

Enchanted weapons can currently be upgraded up to lvl2 🙂
-# Tho i assume you mean "can't be upgraded even a single time right now" as in you dont have materials for it atm?

[errant knoll]

That's fair.

I decided to set up shop in a spot that was very close to 8 roots, and also very close to an adjacent plains

Basically I can farm just about everything here, except for royal jelly, but I have a portal to that mine I mentioned

[fossil delta]

Yeah, the other towers I choose have 2 to 4 roots near by. Only places I have found with 8 roots are long border areas. Towers with 2 to 4 root practically right out side their door are easier to find.

[reef juniper]

We have 4 upgrades on our Black Forge and don't have access to another, does it require some outdated material we skipped over when we skirted some progressions?

[errant knoll]

Check your artisan table

[reef juniper]

Only see springs there, whiich I've held before

[merry pebble]

4 upgrades (lvl5 Black forge) is currently the max
That should enable you to make lvl2 enchanted stuff

[fossil delta]

4 is all you get once you get into the Ashlands, there may be more in later stage Ashlands,

[errant knoll]

Ah, I'm that case you haven't found a certain ashlands gem

[reef juniper]

I have 4 upgrades on the ground in range of it

[reef juniper]

No no we've found all 3 types

[errant knoll]

You can get weapons to level 2 though

[merry pebble]

Yeah, and since without upgrades its lvl1 it should be lvl5 now 🙂

[errant knoll]

Forge cooler, vice, Gem Cutter and the metal cutter, you got all those right?

[reef juniper]

Nevermind, I just needed to fix something because the building in this game is jank asf sometimes

[errant knoll]

Lol

[merry pebble]

Well, if you say so 😄

[fossil delta]

Yeah, you need to keep an eye on those glowing "chains" to make sure everything is connecting.

[reef juniper]

My cooler was on an a shelf above the black forge directly next to another upgrade that was literally slightly further from it, and for some reason the cooler wasn't in range

I don't think that's my fault.

[errant knoll]

Quality 2 still breaks reasonably fast either way.

I normally take 2 weapons, my ashlands tier op weapon and then my mistlands weapon, and I use the mistlands weapon in easy fights, breaking out the big guns for when it gets hairy

[merry pebble]

Without them connecting you are not able to place the upgrades, did you perhaps move the black forge at some point after placing the upgrades?

[errant knoll]

it helps that when I did melee build swords were my weapon of choice and Mistwalker is just kinda cracked anyway

[fossil delta]

No melee weapon is as OP as magic, so...

[merry pebble]

True that 😄

But melee is more engaging and fun

[reef juniper]

Ah it was my friend who moved it for a build, yeah that checks out now.

[gray sand]

Cheatsword 😉

[errant knoll]

That is true yes, though those berserkir axes rip things to shreds VERY fast

[fossil delta]

I stick to melee, so I'm going to agree with that.

[errant knoll]

Just less safety

[reef juniper]

I really wish late game Etir armor had innate + Etir

[merry pebble]

I raise you cheat sledge 😛

[gray sand]

I raise you cheat killall 😏

[merry pebble]

Not melee weapon, i win!

[errant knoll]

It doesn't really need it, eitr foods are statted with the lack of a base eitr in mind, and eitr is only required for attacks, not mobility

[fossil delta]

Dev commands are "broken" by default, so no surprise there. Now name a weapon actually in game that is as OP as any mage weapon.

[errant knoll]

And by late game you should be having 100% uptime on food anyway

[gray sand]

You lose by putting "any" mage weapon because... dundyr.

[merry pebble]

Leave the log shooter alone 😭
-# But true, it is very situational at best

[errant knoll]

I actually enjoy fighting with the Dundr but it's kinda weird

And just doesn't hold a candle to the other magic weapons

[gray sand]

If it did chain lighting LIKE IT SHOULD it would be viable.

[errant knoll]

I've had some fun using dundr to knock back enemies into my vines for a one two punch.

... but likewise i could just kite them into my vines lol

[fossil delta]

Dundr still isn't as OP as... any mage staff I am aware of. Even the skeletons are more useful. But I have never done magic beyond Mistlands, so...

[reef juniper]

I think it's really shitty that this game gives you absolutely zero upgrades to your innate abilities. Like without your items you're capable of basically nothing, there's no skill points or anything like that. With + innate Etir I think it'd be a nice touch to not require food to use any of what could be your entire build.

[sick ginkgo]

Hi, anyone looking for a slave? kekekw

[gray sand]

Gross.

[sick ginkgo]

I can work day and night for master 🥺

[errant knoll]

The skill points system upgrades your innate abilities, so that's just demonstrably not true

[reef juniper]

What skill point system?

[errant knoll]

You get skill levels for doing basically anything and get better at doing that thing?

[reef juniper]

Okay that

[merry pebble]

Food gives you those. The system i think you are suggesting would need a total rebuild of the game basically

[reef juniper]

That is entirely what I'm talking about lol

That doesn't feel like a good level reward at all lol

[errant knoll]

Then you're not paying much attention

Those levels make quite a big difference

You don't need them to play through the game for sure, but they help a lot

[reef juniper]

No no, I understand it helps with damage numbers a lot.

that's just not what I mean though

[errant knoll]

It's reducing stamina/eitr use when attacking and also doing more damage with those damage types, so you get a double whammy of hitt8ng harder and lasting longer.

That then compounds with the extra stats from food you're eating

[reef juniper]

I don't like that levels are something you could completely forget about and it would make zero difference. At the end of the day, items matter.

[errant knoll]

I will disagree that it makes "zero" difference.

Focusing just on the items - yes, they matter, yes there's no base eitr level. Mages really don't need it.

They're the dominant build without it

[reef juniper]

I just hate that everything is impermanent, constantly getting replaced and never feeling like a constant addition to your build, even as just a small unlockable skill or something on the side.

[errant knoll]

That impermanence is also flexibility to adapt your playstyle and pivot freely

It's not without it's upsides

[reef juniper]

I don't like that

I legitimately hate that aspect, that's a huge thing for me.

There is no such thing as commitment to a build.

[errant knoll]

I mean, there is, skill levels provide an incentive to commit to a build

[reef juniper]

You should be able to change build with a bit of effort outside of just getting the gear, for sure. I think you should be forced to somehow lock yourself in a bit though.

[merry pebble]

I personally would really hate that

And that is even when i use the one same build since 2021 basically

[errant knoll]

Valheim does quite a few things differently from other games.

Do I think all of those things land? No, definitely not. But the food, skill and gear system (ignoring inventory space, as that's a separate discussion) is one of the things it lands really well imo

Again skill level buffs have compounding effects with your food - it is a noticeable drop in efficiency when you try different weapons you've barely used before. Magic is an outlier just because it's op

[lusty dirge]

I'd say skill levels in magic have a more noticeable impact than in most other skills, especially blood magic

[reef juniper]

Considering the base game only gives two builds any kind of specialized feel, being archer and mage, and even then it is entirely based on just your items and the attached skill leve, I think it's not a bad idea.

[errant knoll]

They do, but the point is thag because magic is op anyway pivoting to it you don't really feel a setback in any way

But you're correct difference between level 1 and level 50 magic is enormous

[reef juniper]

Like for instance, it'd be cool as all fuck if there was a parry based damage build

Where your weapon has more difficult parry timing but you get additional damage or a faster swing into it

[errant knoll]

The biggest setback with magic is getting the build online to start with, since the refined eitr costs are quite high

[reef juniper]

That could be a later game armor set or some kind of specialized skill unlock

[errant knoll]

Bit actually fighting with it? Yeah, it's great

[reef juniper]

Assuming you either have someone else to take aggro or some skelets, for sure.

Otherwise you are quite squishy, which is unfortunately kinda universal in the Ashlands.

[rugged bridge]

Funny how this is technically available for fists/claws lol

[errant knoll]

Nah, in single player it's great regardless

[reef juniper]

Perhaps yeah but I don't think the game does a great job at advertising them tbh

[merry pebble]

Now dont take this the wrong way, but this really seems that you didnt actually try to use different playstyles much, there is quite a big difference in playstyle even by playing with different weapons and having all other gear the same. Or just switching one type of food for another will make you play differently. Saying that the only 2 playstyle that actually feel different are archer and mage is just wrong.

[reef juniper]

Especially since they were only recently added, weren't they?

[rugged bridge]

You had the flesh rippers in the game for a while but they were literally the only fist type weapons unless you decided to go bare handed

Unexplored weapon type in general so as expected it's not really polished

[reef juniper]

For me it mostly feels the same. I've for the most part just tried shield + mace, Battleaxe, and then Krom / Slayer, and all of them just end up blending into eachother.

Nothing differentiates them besides chunkier damage on some of the much slower weapons.

[errant knoll]

The 2 handed swords feel extremely different to me tbh, you have to be patient and extremely deliberate with your attacks due to it being quite slow

[reef juniper]

But even then it take quite a while to level the skill to reach that damage

[merry pebble]

So classical 1-h + round shield and slower 2 handers, that really isnt much

[tiny mortar]

So many styles and this guy says they all feel the same is crazy

[errant knoll]

Like sure its melee, so is one handed sword + shield

[reef juniper]

For me it was actually worse witht he battleaxes on how carefully you have to play, I think the swing / movement speed is actually just slower in general. The Krom felt like a nice alleviation of that, although still slow.

[errant knoll]

The battleaxe secondary is quick and has a high stagger rate to buy you time for your other strikes

Sword is just always kinda slow

[reef juniper]

I've used the Atgeir too, although that was a good weapon I didn't find it personally tempting.

[reef juniper]

The Battleaxe secondary is definitely a great attack, was super handy.

[merry pebble]

Atgeirs will have different playstyle than other 2 handers, spears and axes will differ from the mace noticably, swords will be mostly same but you dont have MTP. And then you can change armor types you use for all of them and even mismatch them. There is really a good number of posible playstyles

[tiny mortar]

Atgeir is top tier 🔥🔥 just a shame its not very good for uneven terrain

[reef juniper]

Okay I have a question

[merry pebble]

Oh it still is 😄
Especially after CtA

[rugged bridge]

Definitely was very fun to use it, especially himminafl

[tiny mortar]

Always have a mace for faster dps and uneven terrain fights tho ‼️

[tiny mortar]

I always struggled with the jab when the enemy is below, did they change?

Oh they did nice

[merry pebble]

Yep, CtA update tweeked the uneven terrain comba so you actually hit stuff when its slightly above/below you

[reef juniper]

Between any of those melee builds, does the primary combat idea change much? I mean like, you're generally gonna go into combat with the idea of parrying / staggering then attacking and just doing that over and over. I want something that changes that, or at least alters is significantly.

[rugged bridge]

Ya'll ever tried golf in valheim?

[tiny mortar]

I saw plenty 2h swords with roll instead of parry

[reef juniper]

Okay I shuld've added rolling to that but you get the idea

I would 100% exclude roll if certain items changed how the roll worked significantly though

Same for parry

[tiny mortar]

You ever play around with 2h maces?

[rugged bridge]

Such as?

[reef juniper]

Sorry, which items specifically?

[tiny mortar]

Stagbreaker, ironsledge, demolisher

The hammers

[errant knoll]

Knives want to go for stealth and sneak attacks,

Atgeir oftentimes isn't parrying but is using its secondary to stagger and zone enemies,

Maces can have higher knockback, which makes them worse for killing enemies but better for survival

[reef juniper]

Oh no I hadn't, mostly because they seemed more like a utility / crowd clearing option and I wasn't a huge fan of the way they seemed in most combat.

[errant knoll]

It's small changes

But they do affect the feel of the game quite a bit

[tiny mortar]

Not really a parry thing, sometimes used with roll but mostly just a slam into the ground and bruteforce weapon

[merry pebble]

Yes, with atgeir you spin to win, with tower shield you statically block and look for opportunity to attack, with buckler you parry than slash and avoid large groups at once, with light armor you manuver around enemies to not get swarmed and avoid attacks instead of blocking them, with heavy armor you can tank quite a few hits, etc...
Depending on what you are familiar with you can roll instead of blocking/parrying

[tiny mortar]

Its sick as hell you should try them more

[errant knoll]

Just adding that since heavy armor reduces the damage you take, it also means you have an easier time parrying without breaking poise. Doesn't matter that much on standard valheim but on higher difficulties it matters

[shy marlin]

@gray sand

[errant knoll]

Where you need any extra help you can get if you want to go for parry and counterattack builds

[gray sand]

?

[shy marlin]

Just adding that since heavy armor reduces the damage you take, it also means you have an easier time parrying without breaking poise

😏

[errant knoll]

Is that wrong?

[gray sand]

That is true in like.... 0.0001% of all damage instances.
So effectively it is false.

[tiny mortar]

I should change from heavy to light armor in AS finally

[errant knoll]

Ok

[tiny mortar]

Im so done with carapace man

[errant knoll]

I'll get f'd I guess then

[gray sand]

Food and shield matter when blocking.
Armor does not 😄

[errant knoll]

XD

[shy marlin]

Also saw your message on the mistlands haters 😔

[reef juniper]

Okay I have examples I want y'alls opinion on

[errant knoll]

I knew food mattered

[gray sand]

😭

[tiny mortar]

Does vile armor hold up in AS

Or fenris

[merry pebble]

They didnt mean it affects blocking, but that it lowers the dmg that goes through the block, meaning you dont stagger as easily, is that wrong? 🤔

[gray sand]

Attack Speed?

[rugged bridge]

Can't wait to try this method in real life. 3 full course meals down the hatch and then off to fight a bear

[shy marlin]

we love valheim and its realism

[reef juniper]

Think with something like the Atgeir or a hypothetical Rapier. You get attacked, and these weapons specifically (or just one) would have a riposte that is specialized to that weapon. A unique animation and a unique effect or additional damage number that comes from it. Like the Atgeir, maybe it'll be more difficult to parry when using it, but you'll automatically throw out a much faster secondary attack when you do it. Or with a Rapier riposte, it would do more damage + possibly allow you to do a bit of a forward lunge with it.

[gray sand]

The stagger you get from blocking doesn't care about your armor.
The additional stagger from what gets through the block is minimal since you... you know.. blocked.

So the only time it matters is when you would barely succeed in a block to the point the damage getting through could actually stagger you.

[reef juniper]

Another example could be with large clubs / greatswords, think a block attack. You hold block and swing, it'd do a sweeping attack for the enemie's legs and can knock humanoid enemies off their feet for greater stamina usage.

That could be something specific to certain weapon types or possibly even set bonuses

That's a bit closer of what I mean to specialized builds that feel more like their own thing

[tiny mortar]

Speaking of greatswords, how much iron is the ashlands one upgraded to full

[errant knoll]

Ashlands one doesn't require iron

[tiny mortar]

WHAT I THOUGHT IT DID THATS SICK

[rugged bridge]

Unless you want mobs to T pose and drop down on their back I don't ever see the devs going through the effort to make a falling down animation for every mob lol

[tiny mortar]

Okay that changes everything

[errant knoll]

Ashlands greatsword is just a lot of flametal, which is... you know, probably one of the nicest metals to farm

[tiny mortar]

Good to hear. Havent swung by there yet so I know nothing about it xd

[merry pebble]

It needs 75 flametal to get to lvl3 (unenchanted version)

[shy marlin]

The metal is easy but the biome is tough that's the trade off

[tiny mortar]

Only the strongest survive 🤫

[errant knoll]

The biome is tough but ironically adds a lot of qol

[shy marlin]

indeed

[tiny mortar]

Ive had worse

[merry pebble]

-# silver sword, i am looking at you xD

[errant knoll]

Like said flametal being quite easy and quick to farm, building resources are extremely abundant and you get them fast, can get coal fast, can gather outside the biome fast, etc etc

[tiny mortar]

Had to visit the swamp... Again... Just for chests...

[rugged bridge]

You know the biome's tough when you have to make a brand new ship just to enter it before losing the same boat 5 seconds after reaching the shore

[tiny mortar]

Idk why I didnt make the chests blackmetal.. we've got a surplus on my server

[errant knoll]

The iron cost of the silver sword puts me off making it more than the 40 silver lol

That probably makes me insane xD

[tiny mortar]

I need to convince my brother to get the xbox pass and finally hop on Valheim again... Playing solo isnt fun and I cant get to the Ashlands alone

I cant sail 😭 never learned how to, he always sailed everywhere for me

[merry pebble]

I really dont care about that it costs 23 iron as much as about the 160 silver xD

[rugged bridge]

Just bring a pet boar with you

[merry pebble]

Ehm... Its no longer on the xbox gamepass as far as i know

[tiny mortar]

Will a Lox do? Dont have boars tamed yet.. still waiting for a 2star

[tiny mortar]

WAIT WHAT? His character was on xbox.. what now

Do characters translate to steam if on the same pc? Probably not right?

[merry pebble]

Make a new one probably, i have no experience with xbox so no idea if its possible to recover it

[errant knoll]

Even though it's a lot of silver, I like to take the time to get stone in the mountains and the silver farming comes with that.

It feels like everything requires iron so the small amount of iron just bothers me disproportionately

[rugged bridge]

Trying to remember if I ever tried fitting a lox on the drakkar. But if he feels comfortable go for it

[merry pebble]

Yeah, and silver is not used for much anyway 🙂 but 23 is really not a lot of iron

[narrow badge]

Hi

[errant knoll]

It feels like a lot when I've already sailed away from the swamp

XD

[merry pebble]

You can get that much from one chest xD

[errant knoll]

But I have to sail back, get it, and then sail home again

[merry pebble]

True true, but you can make a whole new iron haul at that point and have even more iron 😄

[tiny mortar]

Ok do they tho I must know

[errant knoll]

It's bad memories from my first time playing the game when I didn't know iron was also needed for plains armor