valheim-chat

[tacit crystal]

Why it should be?

[opal prairie]

Potions as well, no?

[rotund parrot]

I'd say the trollfish can be turned into a very useful one, I would not go out of my way for anything else

[tacit crystal]

Yeah, 3 different meads require 3 different fish from different biomes.

[warm depot]

Having a total of 40% jump height should be a thing its funny af

[random kayak]

Oh wow that's WAAAG down the line

[warm depot]

We alr have highspeed train asksvin cape and fenris

So why not have Mario aswell?

[tacit crystal]

Wdym?

[random kayak]

I'm still in iron age and I have 2 more ages until plains age

I just realized something... I need more barrels

[formal scarab]

Anyone wanna help kill Fader?

[cosmic igloo]

no but if u want easy kill, play mage and use trollstav

[analog prawn]

didnt they nerf that cheese?

[azure yacht]

TIL that traps can be triggered by throwing items as well

[candid basalt]

That’s not Valheim topic

[random kayak]

4 stacks of Iron and it wasn't enough to get every upgrade so far LMAO 😭

[candid basalt]

There is never enough iron

[random kayak]

Well a level 2 sword, a banded shield and a level 3 helmet should be enough to comfortably go through crypts

I also unlocked stone walls!!!

[candid basalt]

Stone cutter is so nice

[random kayak]

I hate the fact that the dreugr at this stage of the game is so genuinely annoying

They deal way too much damage 😭

[candid basalt]

A stagbreaker will kill them behind iron deposits. Dig a little in and go ham

[random kayak]

Oh I don't have an issue with crypt clearing it's just annoying when you traverse a swamp and 6 is up on you

[candid basalt]

Fair

[random kayak]

And sometimes a starred archer then rips a hole through you

[candid basalt]

Yeah at that phase, archers are more annoying to me

[random kayak]

I either block it or parry

If there are melee I'm forced to block until I can find a tree I can hide

[candid basalt]

I’m building a place in a swamp, and I summon skeles until I have a couple archers and they repay the pain I felt to the denizens as I work

[random kayak]

I can't build a swamp base yet because of well... Them and it's also too dreary for me

[candid basalt]

The unbreakable trees are great for treehouse bases

[random kayak]

Ooooh! Also Goodnight!!!!

[candid basalt]

Night

[rocky widget]

i still love the fact that you can stun archers by parrying their arrows. theres no way its a physical response like when you parry a blow from a sword, but rather the archer is mentally stunned by your shield prowess

[tacit crystal]

Archers turn into no trouble if you get to craft something out of ||Root||.

[ember panther]

So does the love potion thing increases spawn rate of all big creatures? Noticed a lot of abominations when I tried it in the swamp

[merry pebble]

Only trolls

[ember panther]

Useless then... looks nice on the potion shelf ig

[balmy cedar]

alright ive taken a break since after the mistlands update, can anyone fill me in on any big news, ashlands, whats next, etc?

[light moat]

Ashlands and Bog witch updates are out, deep north is next as far as we know. 1.0 may add some stuff to other areas of the game per The Spill

[vital umbra]

when the deep west

the fang spear is really quite viable for the plains

[idle spoke]

day 4 still cant find valheim for $8 :/

[hidden gorge]

it's only 20 full price

[plush umbra]

Hi guys im thinking to settle here is it good?

#screenshots

I think the scenery will be nice and hopefully wolves wont come down haha 😅

[hidden gorge]

that's what walls are for anyway 😉

[plush umbra]

Ah i see any tips to flatten the ground?

[hidden gorge]

hoe from one spot and expand outward -- mining down the bumps that resist the hoe

[plush umbra]

wym

[vocal rivet]

That seemed fairly clear.

[plush umbra]

idk the terms

[hidden gorge]

hoe flattens based on your characters elevation. if you move (to a spot slightly higher or lower), you may get undesired effects

[plush umbra]

i see

[hidden gorge]

what terms

[plush umbra]

dw abt it

[plush umbra]

how do i get rid of a runestone?

cuz it might affect my building

[hidden gorge]

that's the neat part, you don't.

[plush umbra]

;w; free decoration!!

[rocky widget]

yes, i have one of those stones in my backyard

[plush umbra]

@hidden gorge Some floor isnt going to my level

[warm sandal]

catching asksvin in a pit is a pain 😄 but i managed to trap a one star and a zero star 😄

[hidden brook]

stone galems might be THE worst enemies

theyre 1. useless, no good drops, 2. theyre just annoying

[cunning scroll]

looking for friends to play with ^w^

[merry pebble]

#1024264966712340510 😄

[warm sandal]

i do love the glas windows 😄 so they are not completely useless and the trophys look fab if you put them up for decoration 😄 but i agree they are annoying

[merry pebble]

if you even get the trophy

[warm sandal]

i had like so many around my moder arena this run.. when ever I got there to do some prepareing another one stood up somewhere

[light moat]

Do wish Crystal had some more uses though haha

[warm sandal]

I got a lot of windows 😄 but i have to say them crystals are easier obtained in the frost caves 😄

[cunning scroll]

no one's responding there though :<

[warm sandal]

consider they might be from another timezone or working or doing real life things give them some time

[hidden brook]

i mean yeah but just find a damn cave

[merry pebble]

It usually takes some time 🙂 few hours is pretty normal since not all people are in the same timezones, sometimes you can wait even day or two 😄

[warm sandal]

that is why i make a point of not running around the mountains in a snow storm... they are hard to spot in clear weather...and thus...no sight no mountains gonna go do other stuff then 😄

[hidden brook]

just say this discord is dead

[merry pebble]

What?

[hidden brook]

(joke)

[warm sandal]

a pitty i had to stop playing for today...was really going great today no further deaths and two beasties trapped and one tamed even got to kill a valkyrie with a little help from a friend 😄

but the alarm will go of 5 am ... soooo 😦 gotta be a good girl and go to bed 😦

[gray sand]

If you have to explain how something is a joke...

[hollow hinge]

Smoldering cinders are so good for turning wood into coal, good by coal run

[plush umbra]

Guys can yall check the base i did w my friend i need ideas on what to do on the free space he dug

#screenshots

[keen cliff]

what phase of the game are you in?

[plush umbra]

we are gonna do bronze stuff

[keen cliff]

just leave the space free. plenty of other types of build structures open up that yu might want to put there

there's nothing wrong with having open and free space in your base

make a shuffleboard court for now

or pickleball

everyone won't shut up about fucking pickleball nowadays

[plush umbra]

what are those

[nocturne wolf]

You’ll need more room for farming

[plush umbra]

;w; it looks bigger than it looks

[gray sand]

😏

[plush umbra]

#building-screenshots

[keen cliff]

shrinkage?

[plush umbra]

like he says i need more thats an entire fucking huge land of crops (no offense)

[keen cliff]

why are you fencing in your bees? i think they can get through the holes in the fence...

bees are very small.

[plush umbra]

Decoration

[nocturne wolf]

I didn’t realise how high up you were

[plush umbra]

Haha its okay

Thats big enough tho right ;~;

[nocturne wolf]

It should be

[plush umbra]

Damg bro thats literally enough to feed an army wdymm 😭

[keen cliff]

i standardized my farms at 20x20m

way more than i need just for myself really

[merry pebble]

It will be good enough for now 😄

[nocturne wolf]

I make a circle with 16 stake walls for each crop, and for plains I make one with 32 walls and put barley and flax in there.

[fair kindle]

that feeling when you just dealt with a 2-star draugr, and two 1-star draugr archers spawn right afterward

[merry pebble]

He divided himself xD

[brazen charm]

gjatt

[merry pebble]

What?

[keen tide]

Is there even an argument for using bows over crossbows anymore?

[nocturne wolf]

Bows are much faster and you can jump while charging a shot

[keen tide]

I used to use the mistlands bow but switched to the ashlands crossbow and I feel like the crossbow is to much better

[merry pebble]

Everyone uses what they want 🤷‍♂️ is there any need for argument?

[keen cliff]

there's pros and cons to both

[keen tide]

I think the pull time is about the same

[merry pebble]

Oh heeeeell no

[nocturne wolf]

With a high bow skill bows are incredibly fast, but I’ve never got my skill close to that

[keen tide]

I like minmaxxing

[keen tide]

My highest skill is 38 on swords

[merry pebble]

What does that have to do with what ranged weapon other people want to use?

[keen tide]

I’m just curious what others opinions on it are

I don’t care what you choose to use

[fair kindle]

oh god yeah xD

he must've been inspired by the oozes! 😂

[nocturne wolf]

I only use ranged weapons when I have to or when the enemy is too far away

[keen tide]

If I have eiter food I just use magic

[gray sand]

Oh people going to hate me for this:

||New world, very first Cultist I killed dropped the trophy.|| 👀

[merry pebble]

Nice 😄

[keen cliff]

that happened to me on this playthrough

[vital umbra]

salutations

[tacit crystal]

Happened in my most playthroughts, during the first cave, except in this current world. No trophy yet and I'm almost off to Yagluth.

[gray sand]

Do the crystals inside caves respawn?

[keen cliff]

no mention of them respawning in wiki.

if you're at 1x resources, it's better to smash them than to pick them

[gray sand]

Need to add them to the Farming skill so we have % chance at multiple 😛

[vast jolt]

how to craft bombs

[nocturne wolf]

What kind?

[gray sand]

Which kind?

[vast jolt]

the one that'll wreck my friends house if thrown at it

[gray sand]

Why kind?
Where kind?

[nocturne wolf]

You don’t want bombs for this, make a trollstav

[vocal rivet]

Ah, a griefer.

[gray sand]

Instant way to broadcast "DO NOT BE FRIENDS WITH ME."

[vast jolt]

nah they started first

what's trollstav?

[gray sand]

So, instead of continuing it -> Drop them and find better friends.

[nocturne wolf]

It’s made with ashlands materials

[vast jolt]

we just having fun, chill fam

[gray sand]

Griefing people is not fun.

[vast jolt]

dmn, barely even getting to mistlands as of now

[vast jolt]

that depends to per person fam

[vital umbra]

you could use the fireball staff for that then pretty quickly 🫢

[gray sand]

Fair. I will rephrase:
Good people do not find griefing to be fun.

[azure yacht]

https://valheim.fandom.com/wiki/Trollstav

[vital umbra]

alot of area damage, and you get it in the mistlands

[vast jolt]

nvm just put campfire beside my friends house its lighting up now, much thanks guys

[vital umbra]

whats that about, you have firespread on or smth?

[azure yacht]

It's the only way fire would spread

[hearty flume]

Any idea on where to find the witch?

[gray sand]

My Moder spawn is surrounded by Mistlands, lol.

[thick folio]

Forgive me if this is just kicking a dead horse, but is anyone else just generally disappointed with the building materials introduced with Ashlands? from the stairs not lining up, to the lack of any roof pieces. Am i alone in thinking this all feels very rushed and half assed?

[hearty flume]

Yeah, mine was to, but I found another spawn eventually

[gray sand]

Are there disappointed people? Yes.

Are they the majority? No.
Are most people very happy with the new options? Very yes.

Are you alone?
-# Aren't we all?

[nocturne wolf]

I love the new pieces, especially the ridable asksvin skeleton

[thick folio]

Im not saying I dont like the update, im having a lot of fun with what there is, but it all seems to be lacking in very subtle ways. just venting

[gray sand]

I very quickly peaked the map site to not spoil everything, I have 3 options.

Option A and B are closest to center so you would naturally find them -- both surrounded by Mistlands.
Option C is on the border of Ashlands, so you'd never find it naturally 😭

[vital umbra]

its a much bigger update than the mistlands was....unless i'm existing in my own world....

[rotund parrot]

Everything ashwood and flametal looks great, grausten pieces do fit weirdly together but it's playable

[thick folio]

It justs feels like they focused too much on the gear and it made other things suffer, hopefully there's an update soon to address some of this.

[gray sand]

I do not get even a whiff of a hint of a musing of that feeling 🤷‍♂️

So... massive X for Doubt considering them ever "addressing" it.

[thick folio]

I envy you then

[rotund parrot]

The material is also extremely easy to obtain

[vital umbra]

a new wood type in floors and walls is super big

[gray sand]

The decorative wood pieces are awesome.

[vocal rivet]

Yeah, saying the build pieces in Ashlands are lacking is a really odd take.

[gray sand]

And hats off to Lava Lamps.

[vital umbra]

a new roof type at all is awesome and i think grausten looks real good in meadows especially

[gray sand]

Curved roofing 👀

[vital umbra]

i think i did find it a pain in the ass to work with it just off the top of my head

[long locust]

could make a catapult and some explosive payloads if you wanna get the true experience of exploding it

[long locust]

I thought I wouldn't like ashwood and grausten since they're very flat looking, but they've grown on me really quick, especially ashwood

[vast jolt]

what're the materials for those fam

[long locust]

https://valheim.fandom.com/wiki/Catapult

[vital umbra]

scissorrr

[errant knoll]

Just taken my first ever steps into the ashlands.

Boy, that sailing was stressful

[vital umbra]

rather annoying innit

[nocturne wolf]

Did you bring what you need for a shield generator?

[errant knoll]

Not just annoying, borderline game ruining if your ship ends up breaking.

I had the foresight if building a shield core and bringing the mats, yes

I had a feeling that showing me the shield core recipe upon making ceramic was a very deliberate "you're going to need this"

[plain moon]

does valheim on steam support the dualsense controller?

[errant knoll]

But yeah, I ended up having to stop at a random rock and build a workbench somehow on it to repair my ship

I seem to have landed right near an enemy spawner of some kind because I'm being assaulted by relentless charred enemies

[plain moon]

git gud

[wooden tapir]

Might have just had my stupidest death yet. I was riding an Savin in the lava, went to go refresh my shield, and fell in the lava cuz my askvin aggroed something

[errant knoll]

I mean I'm not having any issues fighting them, in fact I'm kinds taking the time to build up a quick stockpile of bones before I destroy it

[empty plank]

https://discord.com/channels/391142601740517377/1306356244457590865

[nocturne wolf]

It should do. I’ve seen an option for playstation button icons in settings.

[errant knoll]

I really wish tames had like a "defensive stance" setting

Where they will only aggro enemies either after you attack, or when you get hit

[vocal rivet]

#1024264966712340510

[gray sand]

"You are being hunted"

Well, thank you for the 44 meat and pelt 👍

[hearty flume]

I thought I never had to use this many, but the best way to farm greydwarf eyes?

[pliant hatch]

Mine out the area under a greydwarf spawner, put a campfire in there and fill it up with wood.

The spawns will fall in the pit, get killed by the fire, giving you the eyes, wood and stone - among pukeberries and dandelions - with the wood being a useful resource to keep the fire going.

Means the pit is about 2 metres deep and at least 1m more in diameter as the spawn / nest is, but I don't think that's a big problem to achieve

[hearty flume]

hmmm

[pliant hatch]

If you're still at Black Forest tier you may want to run around in the Black Forest and Meadows at night, as they will spawn there; but in general farming them from a pit with a campfire - or bonfire if you got that - is a lot easier.

[hearty flume]

I just defeated Moder 😛

[pliant hatch]

In that case a bonfire is within reach.

[hearty flume]

yeah, but at the same time if you're 3 - 4 people on a map exploring, then it might not take that long to get it

[foggy glacier]

honestly, I just didn't sleep. I always just ran around the wall-top of my meadows/bf base at night and practiced bow skill. I'd then just gather everything up in the morning.

[hearty flume]

I had some issues where they didn't drop eyes tho

[foggy glacier]

that happens. Eyes aren't a 100% drop rate.

Best bet is the spawner farm, as stated before.

if you defeated Moder, you don't even need fires, just wolves.

[hearty flume]

Yeah, I have a mission where I want to find the witch, but to get everything she sells there is a lot of grinding tho

[crisp portal]

Do morgens spawn just once inside those Putrid Holes?

[foggy glacier]

Yes. One-time spawn.

[austere belfry]

since getting to the ashlands, I keep reading it as "Prostitute Powder". Bout to strap on some thigh highs and hit the streets

[foggy glacier]

lol.

[hearty flume]

oh my, I'm laughing myself to tears lol

[foggy glacier]

I guess it's safe to say those lava blobs are hot mamas then?

[austere belfry]

or hot daddies

[keen cliff]

it's better than prostate powder. i don't need to be reminded more about my prostate

[vocal rivet]

Nor do we!

[signal bloom]

soo..blood magic leveling..

[shy marlin]

If you're gonna grind it i recommend saving yourself a few hours and going ./raiseskill bloodmagic 50 or w/e

[foggy glacier]

I built myself an afk farm over a draugr village.

[signal bloom]

yeah it's unreal how mind numbing it is.. there's gotta be more a path to level these skills sanely..

[foggy glacier]

I just let it run while I WFH.

[signal bloom]

what about the risk of raids while working?

[vocal rivet]

Just playing naturally and not worrying too much about levels. That's the best way to play.

[signal bloom]

I'm always afraid some troll raid or other will just demolish my spawner I've built

[keen tide]

How do you grind it anyway?

[foggy glacier]

I put down my portal on the coast at least 40m away. My AFK farm has just a hearth and workbench usually.

[errant knoll]

Don't build key base structures and you don't run the risk of raids wherever it I'd you're farming it

[foggy glacier]

I've got earthen walls 8m high around everything.

[errant knoll]

Draugr villages are in the meadows which is immune to wolf raids

[signal bloom]

yeah this is basically what I do now lol. But it'd be cool if there were a path to level it more easily or at least dynamically

[foggy glacier]

I just died last night, got back from 95 to 100 in about 6h today.

[lunar sapphire]

No idea what I read at 10:52am in this chat but uh... let's not

[keen tide]

Bats

[foggy glacier]

like I said, I only have a workbench and hearth when I"m AFK. only 2 base structures so no raids.

My portal is far enough away to not trigger.

[signal bloom]

I've been raided on open ocean by wolves though..

[foggy glacier]

if you use a dragur village in meadows, no wolf raids.

[errant knoll]

If it's like, plains but in ocean wolves can still spawn.

Far as I know wolf raid should only happen in mountains and plains

[signal bloom]

raids are zone specific!? wut

[vocal rivet]

They will, but just because you're on water doesn't mean you're in Ocean.

[foggy glacier]

Some are. Some raids happen anywhere.

[signal bloom]

so my black forest grey dwarf spawn with just a log bench, fire shouldn't get raided??

[foggy glacier]

if you've only got one fire, no.

[errant knoll]

I think it's 3 structures that are required for raids

[vocal rivet]

You won't get raided when you're near it, no.

[errant knoll]

Like, 3 "key base structures". If you've built a tower but it's just walls with a workbench you should be safe

[signal bloom]

I think I saw a vid with a draugr farm and archers I bet that's faster than greydwarves

[gray sand]

3 key parts to a building:

Roof, walls, floor.

4 key parts to a viking:

Head, shoulders, knees, toes.

[foggy glacier]

I prefer draugr to greydwarf spawner because drauger spawn faster; minimizes the grind.

[errant knoll]

For afk farming I agree the draugr route is probably better.

I just don't really do afk farming

I just summon a skelly and then pet it because they're tamed animals lol

[foggy glacier]

honestly I didn't either until I got magic. Like the man said, blood magic is such a pain to level.

[errant knoll]

So you can get a skeleton to "love" you

Yeah that's true, blood magic levels way slower than anything else in the game. I also think that's kind of fair though given just how strong it is

[foggy glacier]

It's true that it's kind of OP at high level. Since I went to ashlands, I've only died by boiling or roasting myself.

[errant knoll]

Even at low levels it's really good. That shield let's you parry everything, and those skellies can make a nice distraction before even considering their damage output

That's as far as i got with blood magic so far, I'm progressing ashlands first time blind

[foggy glacier]

Hmm, will skeletts attack Dvergr before they're 'hostile'?

[errant knoll]

They haven't done

The more annoying thing was them chasing after random hares. But I completely broke the queen fight accidentally by spawning 3 skellies inside rhe tight entrance area

[foggy glacier]

can they get out of there?

[errant knoll]

Queen kept aggroing onto them cause they're theoretically closer, but behind the wall she couldn't hurt them

So she kinda just got stuck there for extended periods of tome

[foggy glacier]

and you just lob fireballs at her.

[errant knoll]

When I fought her it felt like frost outdamaged fire, though I did switch to fire when adds were summoned

Frosts spread didn't seem to matter In the face of how big she was.

But outside ofbthag in the overworld as well, contingent of 3 skellies following you makes a lovely distraction for gjalls

[foggy glacier]

yeah. plus the slow is a bonus too.

[errant knoll]

You can also shield the skeletons too, so the 2 staves feed into eachother

[foggy glacier]

I usually just use my bubble and flame staff, swap to bile bombs when I need to regen.

[errant knoll]

Prepare before fight with skellies, use ice staff first, switch to fire for ticks, use arbalest while regenerating eitr

That's how I've been dealing with them

[foggy glacier]

That reminds me, I think I have three seeker soldier heads again.

[errant knoll]

Strictly speaking if I was playing properly my opening strike would be with arbalest too preferably an underside sneak attack if possible

On a similar theme, skellies drawing seeker soldier aggro makes it easier to hit their rear end weakspot

[foggy glacier]

that only works for the first one though, when she's at the top. I got unlucky with my current playthrough. I had a regular infested mine right beside the citadel, so she was already aggroed by the time I opened the door.

I have a hard time seeing skeletts being useful in mistlands because of the vertical.

I'm always looking for high ground when I'm there.

[errant knoll]

They're useful when you know a fight is coming up and you have time to prepare.

Seeker soldiers have a distinctive visual effect in the mist

It's easy to prepare ahead of time for the engagement

Likewise gjalls make a loud noise that you can't miss.

You don't really need them for the regular seekers or ticks

[foggy glacier]

yeah, the footfalls are easy to spot. Then you can kite them where you want them with a well-placed bow or crossbow shot.

[errant knoll]

Also, again on the theme of preparing for fights, literally invading dvergr towers too lol

Having a few extra bodies of your own makes the opening strike a lot easier to manage, if there's a tower you have your eye on and really want for yourself

[foggy glacier]

I don't fight the dvergr any more.

I use a cart for the first ward, then refined eitr to destroy subsequent ones.

I'll destroy the front stairs, then push all the dvergr outside and take over the fort.

[errant knoll]

Tbh I'd just rather kill them lol xD far quicker

[foggy glacier]

I like the little guys.

I used to use puffer fish on them. that was soo long.

[errant knoll]

I like them too - I only really would do it if I want to establish a foothold on a landmass

Those towers make perfect prebuilt bases

Just get a stonecutter in, repair the black marble and extend to hearts content

[foggy glacier]

yep

honestly, I'll usually demolish them for the marble & copper. Poor little guys left running around a bare patch of ground in the rain.

[errant knoll]

As a lazy person, I leave them intact and just expand them. I build my own base once in a blue moon lol, that applies for the whole game

[random kayak]

The Bluetooth device has paired successfully

[long locust]

dundr is actually really good, with a massive asterisk

you gotta be directly in front of whatever you're shooting, and just pray the knockback prevents whatever you're walking up to from hitting you

[foggy glacier]

The staff of fracturing is fun if you have a dry moat around your base. The sparks bounce off any earthen walls, so they just shoot up and down the trench.

[foggy glacier]

I've heard Dundr is good for levelling elemental magic, for the same reason.

[long locust]

not a fan of fracturing tbh

[foggy glacier]

it's good if you can land a shot directly on what you're aiming at.

[long locust]

feels like a sidegrade to a staff that really didn't need a sidegrade

[foggy glacier]

depends on the target, right? fracturing has more fire, less blunt.

[long locust]

other thing is too that fracturing gets fucked much harder by enemy resistances than embers

embers is just significantly more consistent

I hope deep north brings a really fun cold staff or something like that

I think I'm gonna go try to fight zil & thungr finally

[foggy glacier]

have fun. It's a good one.

[long locust]

all I've been warned is to bring fire resist

[foggy glacier]

yes.

I'd recommend a sledge as well.

[long locust]

oh god

does it take place in an actual dungeon or is it just a structure like the other fuling towers?

btw, dundr is also great for blasting deathsquitoes to pieces

the real bug spray was the 12 guage we made along the way

[foggy glacier]

kinda both. Hard to get in and out of.

[random kayak]

You know maybe I didn't account for the fact that the amount of upgrades I need to do. My little fort is getting smaller 😭

[long locust]

bruh

so since my world was made before bog witch my sealed tower waypoints from Hildir are incorrect now

[random kayak]

Sealed tower?

[long locust]

yeah, boss wp for hildir's chests

[random kayak]

Oh that's cool

[long locust]

hopefully her map table updated

otherwise I'm gonna need to use a seed viewer or dev commands

ok, it did thankfully

and they actually generated a lot closer to my old plains outposts lol

[wooden tapir]

yea my mysterious locations were all messed up

had to go find more caves

[long locust]

damn how tf does the sealed tower work

and would it be silly if I brought a catapult with explosive payloads

[wooden tapir]

go for it lmao

[long locust]

either that or I just catapult myself onto the top of it

I have never used a catapult so this will be fun

[wooden tapir]

i watched a vid where a guy accidentally catapulted his protection staff to smithereens

be careful ur not holding something when you click it

[scarlet hill]

isit normal to die alot when entering a new area like swamp ? haha

[wooden tapir]

on first playthrough?

[scarlet hill]

yeah

[long locust]

no way catapulting myself onto the tower worked lmaooo

[wooden tapir]

yea

[scarlet hill]

i just died like 6 times corpse retrieving on my first plains too

[earnest dust]

Just got my valhiem banner this sh looks so good

[wooden tapir]

happens'

[earnest dust]

My friend was exploring on his little Raft first hour in and got killed by a deathskito😭 needless to say we did not go back for a while

[scarlet hill]

yeah i just got one shotted while running

on full troll gear to level 3 which is the max i can upgrade before swamp still so weak lol

[earnest dust]

Ngl I rock troll gear till swamp, let's me upgrade all.my tools and weapons and it's only slightly worse than bronze

[scarlet hill]

figured the movement penalty isnt worth the extra 2 - 4 points of armor

skills like block are hard to level up so its back to like level 6 lol

[long locust]

so, @wooden tapir the catapult worked pretty well lmao, flung myself to the top of the tower and went down from there

meant to type the rest of that but accidentally hit enter twice lol

now, I wonder if anything hildir has now will be cool

at least there's a fuck ton of iron and black metal for me to pick up from the tower

honestly I was pretty surprised how quickly I melted the fulings, crazy how much scaling happens between mist/ashlands and plains

too bad there's only three per world, they're basically just massive blackmetal/iron sources

the eggs were also much appreciated

I hope we get a way to stack our metal bars or ores at some point like we can stack stone & wood

[wooden tapir]

true

[keen cliff]

huh. i guess is was sleeping on the ashen cape. 16 more armor plus attack and block stamina reduction is pretty awesome when in a melee build

[shy marlin]

Ash cape + ask set is peak melee

[keen cliff]

actually, hell, ashen cape + ask set

haha yeah. oh no, i'm conflicted now

[shy marlin]

yep, pair it with bonemass and some bersirkir meads and you're an unstoppable force

[keen cliff]

112 armor vs 142 armor, but ask set bonus...

[shy marlin]

112 armor but you get to kill stuff more efficiently, and can use more stamina for defensive purposes

100% worth it

and no movement penalty either

[long locust]

ashen cape is honestly kinda insane, too bad it's only a stamina reduction or I'd use it on mage

[keen cliff]

i'm going to experiment in the ashlands with ask set + ashen cape right now

[long locust]

I have like 265 black metal scrap from this tower so far and I haven't even taken it all out yet

I need more ways to waste black metal besides chests lmao

gimme black metal buildings like gates and walls

[wooden tapir]

some of the block combos are pretty cool

[long locust]

might as well just start mass producing black metal shields for decoration in item frames

[keen cliff]

blackmetal chests are great for hoarders like me

okay, so first foray with ask set + ashen cloak was pretty fun. you can really spam attacking and blocking and running without much issue. i did have a minor close call by not respecting a 1star warrior in group, but otherwise fine

[bitter rune]

@tame robin Ur base looks very nice:)

[rain flare]

I’ve just cleared one on my new world
Once I hit Ashlands that will be one of the spots I drop a catapult for transportation on my island 🤭

[mellow shoal]

Hi Im new anyone wants to play?

[tepid prawn]

#1024264966712340510

[tame elbow]

any servers open?

[nocturne wolf]

#1024264966712340510

[vast jolt]

so i just build a house on a fresh world

after building i immediately got a notif saying the ground is shaking altho i haven't killed no troll or bosses on that map

[tacit crystal]

A proper welcome to the new world it seems.

On a serious note, seems like a bug.

[vast jolt]

safe to say the welcome is overstayed cause they've stomped me along w/the house as i only carried bone shield & frostner along with dozens of materials

or is this related to me killing the crow multiple times

[tacit crystal]

No, it shouldn't trigger before defeating the Elder and having Troll get killed in the world.

Just making sure, you are not using or haven't used ever any mods? @vast jolt

[vast jolt]

nope pure vanilla, just also updated to latest earlier then got raided

i haven't even killed the deer boss yet

[tacit crystal]

Is your character also new or old from older world?

[vast jolt]

on that world or any animals

[vast jolt]

its from old version thats how i also got frostner from my previous worlds

[tacit crystal]

World modifiers unchanged? Player based raids enabled or disabled?

[vast jolt]

playerbase raids disabled, but pretty much spiked up the difficulty like no portal & raid difficulty max w/enemies difficulty at max

other than those are unchanged

[tacit crystal]

Okay. If I remember correctly it could be linked to either raid slider, player based raids or both. So if your raid slider is max it could cause something unexpected like getting raids that should not trigger yet.

I think it is a known bug by devs.

So you could maybe move the raid slider to lower difficulty and see if that works. Afaik there should be no problems with the second most frequent raids option (at least I have encountered no problems on that in my Hard preset world). @vast jolt

[errant knoll]

It's also worth noting, though this is extremely unlikely, that you don't have to kill a troll for troll raids to spawn.

Specifically, all that needs to happen is that a troll dies. You don't have to be the one to kill it

It's likely not the case if you're that early in for the troll to be dying to other enemies though

And again that doesn't account for the lack of bosses killed. You should only be able to get the weakest raid

[tacit crystal]

Yeah I also specified "Troll get killed" in world, but it still should trigger after defeating Elder.

[errant knoll]

You did use those exact words but I really wanted to expose that point because I think it's easy to overlook

Same is true of surtling raids for instance and those dying can be pretty much out of your control

[tacit crystal]

Yeah, no harm in explaining further thought.

But I suspect that changing the raids to max frequency in World Modifiers could cause problems with raids not triggering correctly.

[errant knoll]

Having never turned the raid settings up and never having issues with it, I suspect you're correct lol

[tacit crystal]

I've played with Hard preset that change the combat to Hard and raid rate to More (second highest) and I have had no problems with that. What I've read here and seen (from some streamers at least) the Much more option has been the culprit for causing events trigger incorrectly.

[wide zenith]

Asksvin don't breed?

[near furnace]

they breed

[wide zenith]

Yea, i see now, after 10 min they finally made love, jeez

[near furnace]

https://tenor.com/view/power-of-love-gif-19640176

[cosmic igloo]

god there really needs to be a decrease in material types in ashlands.. 1 fight and my inventory is full

[nocturne wolf]

How many items did you bring that you don’t need to bring with you?

[gray sand]

The power of Pinesol is greater. 😁

[opal prairie]

Morgen gjall.

[near furnace]

spam 👀

[cosmic igloo]

ya i bring stone portal mats with me, but even if i barely bring anything i get full inventory

like if i only bring my gear in bag and maybe a pot

[errant knoll]

I feel so called out right now, please stahp!

Every time I run out of inventory space I check my inventory and I'm like "why is my cultivator here?"

[opal prairie]

With green eggs and ham?

[near furnace]

with Damn

[opal prairie]

I do not like them Spam-I-Am.

[tacit crystal]

For sudden cultivating during combat!

[gray sand]

We will never stahp. 😛
Inventory management is a skill so many people (not you) who complain about inventory outright neglect... which leads to their complaints about inventory.

[opal prairie]

That won't work, they are all uncultivated savages to such a degree that only wacking them over the head works.

[errant knoll]

I do think the game could benefit from an accessory slot equip which adds a row of inventory space, so you get the option of having extra but with opportunity cost, but regardless the overwhelming majority of issues I face with inventory management are largely my own doing

[gray sand]

I like the dev's response to that tbh.
iirc they said if they ever give you 4 "armor slots" they are taking away 4 slots from your inventory 😄

[opal prairie]

I applaud you for owning up to the fact that you are the problem and not the game, compared to some others we won't name that is major!
(ps: Not meant to offend.)

[errant knoll]

I'm not asking for armor slots tbh and in fact a backpack accessory that adds a row of inventory space actually only adds 7 slots over not having one at all

[gray sand]

I am very anti-backpack, because I think the current system is spot-on.

But mods are available for people who want them.

[errant knoll]

I know it's not meant to offend haha, I'm just very self aware. "Do I really need these extra sacks of food?

Why is my cultivator here?

Wait why is my SWAMP KEY here?"

It's always the most random stuff too lol

[gray sand]

The one and only tool I always have is the hammer.

Everything else is in my "Tool Barrel" that I drop it all in at night and pick out only what I need in the morning.

[errant knoll]

Tbh I really should just make a tool barrel as well so my cultivator and hoe aren't following me everywhere.

Hammer, mining pick and Axe are all perma inventory slot take ups for me though.

[gray sand]

It's a copy of what I do IRL.
I have a "dailies" drawer in a stand next to my front door that holds keys/wallet/etc.
When I enter the house I do an "inventory dump" into that drawer, and when I leave I take only the things I need.

[errant knoll]

Just need to not overstock on food and arrows since those are consistently problems I have

I make enough food to feed like a troupe of 4 players but only for me lol

[gray sand]

At most take ONE of each of your foods.
Because eating before you leave will get you 20-ish minutes and then when you eat to refresh you get your 3 slots back.
And that covers the entirety of a day/night/into the next day cycle (at which time you really should be getting back home anyway to refresh Rested Buff).

[gray sand]

I make the same amount 😄 I just don't carry it.

[errant knoll]

Oh I don't carry all of it either lol. I have far too many chests containing nothing but salad, bread, seeker aspic, stuffed mushroom

[gray sand]

Oh there's an idea...

[opal prairie]

Same amount and I do carry like 3-5 food because I work trough the night and get my rested bonus in the wild.

[errant knoll]

But I sometimes make a habit of holding a full stack of 2 foods, when really I think it's probably better to take 2 foods at a time and make outtings 50 minutes at most to coincide with feasts

[gray sand]

Imagine if they had a "lunchbox" that had only 3 slots and you could put only food in it? 🙃

-# Edited to be nicer.

[errant knoll]

The salads I'm only ever really eating if I'm building stuff or gathering in older biomes which is... well, almost never tbh, I don't even know why I bothered lol

Honestly tempted to just obliterate them

Not all of them but like, half

[opal prairie]

There were three vikings hard at work and when lunch time came around they all complained "Ugh this again, if I get the same tomorrow I'll let a troll kill me."
Next day comes around and they all get the same again, so they run into the woods and let themselves get smacked by a troll.
During the burial, you hear the wives of the first two tell each other "If he had just mentioned that he wanted something else I would have gladly done it."
The wife of the third says: "I don't understand, he packed his own lunch."

[gray sand]

😄

Watch in Deep North they add "maggoty bread" just for the memes 😄

[errant knoll]

Far more efficient ways of forcing a death, like just jumping off a high place after not eating

[opal prairie]

Cutting down trees will also get you killed.

[nocturne wolf]

The final ingredient for a bukeperries debuff feast?

[errant knoll]

Honestly more of those "delicious in dungeon" esque meals would be great

Speaking of feasts.

Mushrooms Galore a la Mistlands isn't very appropriately named

[gray sand]

We still need bukeperries + rotten meat + magical shroom = magical puking aoe attack.

[errant knoll]

The recipe uses a grand total of 3 jotun puffs

Not even a magecap

For a flavour text talking about "different kinds of mushrooms" to boot haha

[gray sand]

3 = Galore

😛

[errant knoll]

So a mushrooms galore feast that feeds 10 people uses the same number of mushrooms as a misthare supreme?

[gray sand]

Surprised we don't have a mushroom meal that takes Red + Yellow + Jotun (for the non magical people)

[errant knoll]

The maths ain't mathsing for me lol

[gray sand]

Mathheim.

[errant knoll]

Yeah imagine like a mixed mushroom soup or something

Being 3 gathered foods it would need to honour the tradition of being a stam food at least

[gray sand]

Oh that's inherent to Yellow (stamina pot ingredient) and Jotun.

[errant knoll]

Yeah.

I'm wondering what you do about mushrooms galore to make the name more fitting.

Maybe instead of 3 cooked seeker meats it's 1 cooked seeker meat and a stuffed mushroom?

[gray sand]

Eh, it gives a small amount of EITR, so you can't overload EITR ingredients.

[errant knoll]

You can't, but for a flavour text implying different kinds of mushrooms you'd at least think a magecap was hiding in the recipe somewhere

It bugs me way more than it should lol

By the same token also, it's supposed to give an even amount of hp and stamina, and yet the recipe is overwhelmingly topped with hp foods

[leaden elbow]

Whats yalls main world name and character name‽ 🗣️
Mine are Gardheim and Holger

[gray sand]

I'm Sevrahn, so my name is.... Sevrahn.

I know, it's really deep.

[errant knoll]

My main seeds world name is Wenkwort, the name I can't remember what the current name I'm using is, it might just be my own name (Alex), though I have used many others

[leaden elbow]

You gotta use a trad norse name

[gray sand]

Nope. 🙂

[vocal rivet]

Of course you don't.

[errant knoll]

Or, I could use my actual name, or my online tag as a name, or be a real heretic and use names from other games

Do a resident evil cosplay playthrough where I call myself Leon, or a Final Fantasy cosplay where I use any of the many names (Bartz, Auron, Terra being 3 of my favourite names from the franchise lol)

[leaden elbow]

I forgot to use the 🗣️ emoji, i mean ofc you dont

I just use a norse name cus it gives me better viking vibes

[errant knoll]

I think I actually did use Bartz in one of my prior playthroughs

Likewise my current world name comes from stellaris lol

[merry pebble]

Currently world Wanderer and char named Wotan

[leaden elbow]

I like that name, is nice

[gray sand]

Oh, my world name is Pogheim.
Because, you know.. 😛

-# Poggers.

[leaden elbow]

Gardheim
Heimheim
Gardgard

[errant knoll]

Poggers

Pog

Champ

[leaden elbow]

Heimgard, but that sounds like heimdall and i dont like heimdall

[opal prairie]

Then you don't want to look at how much serpent meat weighs and then think about the fact that makes 1 serving.

[leaden elbow]

I have like 7 pieces from a serpent i killed painfully in the early bronze age. 7 meals when i make a iron coom thing?

Serpent jumpscare, almost made me shit my pants

[errant knoll]

I know lol, I'm mostly joking, same is true for crafting weapons. Like around 400 kg of silver weight just disappearing when making the silver sword

[opal prairie]

Exactly, mats aint mathing.

[gray sand]

tfw you get the "free craft" on the final upgrade of Silver Sword so it doesn't cost you 60 Silver...

IS THERE A BETTER CRAFTING MOMENT?

[errant knoll]

Serpents before a viking longship are pain

[errant knoll]

Is that actually supposed to be free or is it a bug because I've had those upgrades cost nothing but the way it happens always felt like a bug

[leaden elbow]

Karve 2 serpents, died on the 2nd lol

[gray sand]

It is free. That's intended.
The UI not updating after the free craft happens is the bug.

[opal prairie]

or a whole chicken a butload of honey and two big ass shrooms for one person, followed by some serpent stew and a whole loaf of bread, washed down with a gigantic mead because only 6 out of such a big fermenter must mean that it are some large meads.

[errant knoll]

Ok, so it was buggy just not the part I thought was buggy.

I no longer feel bad about the amount of blackmetal I've saved then

[gray sand]

Any American worth their weight in adipose can eat a whole chicken by themselves, so it's not too much of a stretch 😏

[errant knoll]

I had ridiculously good rng both when making and upgrading blackmetal weapons.

Extra porcupine.

Extra BM sword

Extra BM Knife

Multiple free upgrades

Shame I'm playing alone cause it would have been great to share those extras lol

[gray sand]

Extra weapons is what post people don't consider good so they are thankfully removing it in the next update.

[opal prairie]

Adding all the rest though, +10kg of serpent stew, a whole loaf of bread and the gallons of mead must just burst the stomach.

[errant knoll]

I don't mind the extra weapons, I think removing that might be a mistake personally

Make an extra of a weapon from the current tier makes gear recovery easier potentially

[gray sand]

I hate them because I don't need 2 of any weapon I make.
Ever.
At all.
Under any circumstance.

[errant knoll]

Or if you're not playing alone those extras go to friends

[gray sand]

The fuck am I going to do with 2 Iron Sledges??

[errant knoll]

Worst case scenario you chuck the extra weapon in onliterator and it's the same as if you didn't get an extra

I don't really see the issue with it existing

But for those that it can help it could actually help quite a lot

[gray sand]

I am very happy they are removing it.

[opal prairie]

I don't mind the extra weapons as much but the extra armour can be a pain, if you get 1 extra weapon you can stash it for corpse run but one extra piece of armor for a corpse run isn't that good, so you want to craft the other pieces but what if that gives you another extra piece now you have 3 pants for example.
Who needs pants anyway.

I would like to see them upping the arrow gains though 1 arrow isn't worth it, either increase the chance to get extra arrows or make it a stack.

[errant knoll]

I'm more annoyed than when I make a stack of 100 nails I get 1 nail extra. To me that feels dumb, like if I'm making 10 nails then when I get extra it should be 10 extra

[gray sand]

Arrows and nails should be more than +1, yes.

[errant knoll]

Stashing extra gear can be nice for better backup in case of corpse runs.

Remember not everyone is a God tier gamer

I don't need to corpse run much at all anymore but not everyone is the same

[gray sand]

I have extra gear.
I have specific extra gear that I specifically made.

I don't need random duplicates of things I need only 1 of.

[errant knoll]

Wouldn't it be nice if when making the first set of gear that a backup piece procs though?

Or again, people who aren't playing alone

I can see just as many cases where it helps as where it doesn't

[gray sand]

Highest you get from farming is +1 off of something that normally drops 3, right? Or wait, Barley/Flax are +1 over 2.

So arrows being +10 when it procs would fit that mold.
Nails being +5.

[errant knoll]

And again, if the backup really is that useless.

There is literally an item for waste disposal.

I don't see what the big problem is

[gray sand]

Perception.

[errant knoll]

Perception to me sounds like a problem with the player and not with the system.

Would you not agree in the case of inventory management?

[gray sand]

If you built a Frostner with real mats you would never throw it in the obliterator because of how much you spent making it.

So even if you trash a "free" weapon, the +2 coal doesn't seem like a fair trade in any respect given how much most people perceive the weapon's "cost" to be.

[opal prairie]

I'd rather have a free upgrade in case of weapons or armor than an extra piece, if I want a backup set for corpse runs, I'll make it.

[errant knoll]

The benefits of making extra weapons being exist outweigh the potential for annoyance

[gray sand]

Yes. Most everyone is of this opinion. Which is why they are removing the dupes from those items.

(Not sure what this has to do with my suggestion about arrows though? 😁)

[errant knoll]

Cause again.

Not everyone plays alone.

I make an extra bm sword and knife? Yeah, I can't use them but had I been playing with someone else that would be great.

Maybe instead of removing it entirely make it a toggle setting at the crafting table?

I really don't think blanket removing it is the answer

[gray sand]

You are of the minority in this opinion.

Most people find the annoyance of a random dupe far outweighing scenarios where they might think about having 2 of something.

And the devs are very anti-MP-specific things.

[errant knoll]

So what about my suggestion of making it a toggle then?

Isn't that better than both removing it completely, and the current implementation?

[gray sand]

Better is subjective 🤷‍♂️

(Nearly universal truth)

[errant knoll]

Just to my mind there is absolutely zero case where making an extra is a negative.

At worst you're getting extra coal.

At best you're getting entire backup pieces

[tacit crystal]

I think the duplicate crafting was hilarious and it was fun while it lasted. Last duplicate craft was Krom for me.

[gray sand]

Like I said, you're not alone in that mind, but you're not majority.

Have to go get a client. 👋

[errant knoll]

It's free stuff no matter how you look at it.

That's better than nothing.

I would suggest that it's a problem with players who perceive it negatively, much the same as how many would suggest it's a problem with players if they complain about inventory space

[tacit crystal]

Would have been better if there was a chance to craft 2 quality weapon/armor right away instead of 1 quality.

[errant knoll]

Yeah there's more consistent ways to implement a meaningful bonus, not disputing that

I find the idea that a toggle which lets you choose isn't subjectively better a bit silly personally, youre giving players more choice of how they want to play your game.

Maybe make the toggle "make extra weapon OR get free upgrade level"

That way it's not choosing between some bonus and no bonus, but rather a choice between 2 different bonuses

[tacit crystal]

IMO crafting extra weapon for free was too OP tho.

[errant knoll]

For many others though, as indicated By sentiment seen just now, it's the exact opposite of op, it's useless and annoying

Because in spite of stuff being given for free whatever, with possibility of it being a huge freebie, people hate to chuck away a weapon they're never going to use simply because it's got a high cost attached

[opal prairie]

Replied to the wrong post. 🤦‍♂️

[plush umbra]

Guys when i decide to tame boars should i look for 2 stars only?

[gray sand]

I prefer 1 stars tbh

[opal prairie]

You can get by with zero or one stars till you find one with 2 stars, the chance of a 0 star and a 2 star breeding resulting in a 2 star off spring is 50% so just breed the 2 star till you get a 2 star piglet and kill the 0 star parent.

[plush umbra]

So like besides being food resources is there any use for boars?

[errant knoll]

Leather scraps source, having a source of leather scraps you don't need to actively seek Is something you likely want

Unrelated.

My first foray into ashlands, where I docked I landed right near a boss altar lol. Right near the start. Funny how that works out

[plush umbra]

Hm thanks i live near the mountain but me and my friend is NOT at the level of mountains yet should i try to bait wolves i think they would be pretty neat to have in early game prob gonna destroy alot of folks

[opal prairie]

Leather scraps, meat to feed your wolves and to feed yourself with low level food for when you are pottering around base.

[errant knoll]

Dear christ. Are the ashlands enemies always this active? I'm kinda scared to go back through that portal lol. There's a 1 star warrior, 2 marksmen and a Morgen waiting for me on the other side of it

Also. What even was that Morgen? What's it supposed to be? A pile of bones?

[cosmic igloo]

pretty much, yeah, tons of mobs

[errant knoll]

Exploration is going to be a very slow affair then I take it.

I have to say though, I'm enjoying just how much combat there is. Mistlands felt a bit too peaceful at times and the few times combat was dangerous there felt more annoying than fun

[gray sand]

Theme of the biome is war, so yes. They are everywhere, like the Mist in the Lands.

[dark dirge]

does tin respawn?

[gray sand]

Negative.

But there are metric assloads of it available, so running out isn't a concern.

[errant knoll]

Unlike another metal we could mention.

yes I know, technically iron is renewable but it's a pain In the butt either way

[gray sand]

Iron is also available in metric assloads, and running out isn't a concern.

[errant knoll]

Depends on how much you're building. Demand for iron is way higher

[gray sand]

Doesn't depend.
Amount available is still higher than you could possibly use. It's a matter of how many more trips you need to make given the higher demand.

[rotund parrot]

There's thousands of iron in the sunken crypt alone

[errant knoll]

I know, but the amount you need to go out of your way to seek extra iron is completely unlike for other metals

I've never, ever had to seek out a new black forest biome for copper or tin, I did have to seek out a new swamp for iron

That alone says enough for me.

[rotund parrot]

Makes sense to me that the most common, abundant and versatile metal would be used for many things

[errant knoll]

It does make sense.

Doesn't make it any less of a pain

[hoary mirage]

i find it weird padded armor needs iron and not blackmetal tbh

[rotund parrot]

Second easiest metal to obtain after flametal

[errant knoll]

The swamps are so depressing, least favourite biome

[hoary mirage]

swamp was hell for my first playthrough

abominations feels way too common

[errant knoll]

I think swamp is kinda like Whitney from pokemon gold and silver.

It's honestly not that bad but it does serve as a major wake up call to newer players

[hoary mirage]

they never wanna show up when i needed guck for my draugr fang though

also how much do ppl struggle at plains usually

[rotund parrot]

Probably a bit more common than troll, as they should because there's no abomination cave and the armor require more abomination kills than the troll armor

[hoary mirage]

went there and died like thrice in a row

those goblins are fucked up

[errant knoll]

If you go to the plains when you're meant to I think it's one of the easier biomes honestly

If you go there early then yes, you're in for a bad time

[hoary mirage]

i got like 2 tapped from a 1 star goblin with full wolf armor

theres also the artillery slimes that throw a litteral barrage whenever you attempt to get anywhere near them

[rotund parrot]

Swamp feels a bit like the ashlands to me as it's a biome where you don't pick your fights, the fights come to you. Plains on the other hand is one where you decide if you get into a fight or not

[errant knoll]

2 stars can be rough but the rest of the biome is manageable

[opal prairie]

Dodge roll and parry are your friends.

[errant knoll]

It helps that it's extremely easy to run away when things are bad

With the land being so flat and open

[hoary mirage]

i lost like 90 health in one salvo before i even realised what was going on

and last Goblin village i tried doing ended up being like a 1v20

there was so many of them

[nocturne wolf]

Use a bow to aggro a small group

[opal prairie]

Yeah they are a pain, but now you know what is going on, next time one shoots that barrage, dodge roll and keep going till the slow debuff is off and then high tail it out of there and come back with a plan ^^

[errant knoll]

Goblin villages are hard but you can prepare for them as much as you like, it's not a surprise fight thrust on you.

So it's a good kind of difficulty I think

[hoary mirage]

also im constantly being harrased by goblin squads wich is annoying

idk why but i keep finding roaming ones with stars

[rotund parrot]

Not even using a bow, you can just walk towards it slowly and small group will start walking towards you, let them come and melee them then go forward until more see you and start heading towards you

[opal prairie]

Yeah plains is the most fun, sniping with bows from on high is a good way to deal with fuling villages.

[rotund parrot]

Fuling camps are really easy even without a bow

[hoary mirage]

im probably just unlucky

[errant knoll]

Also, a tip.

If you see a tar pit near a goblin village, kite the tar into the goblin village and watch carnage unfold

[nocturne wolf]

More stars is more loot

[opal prairie]

Yeah attract a few and run away, fight them a ways away from the village rinse and repeat till the genocide is complete.

[hoary mirage]

how do u find the plain boss btw

is it just signs in goblin villages

[rotund parrot]

I don't run, I stand my ground but you get the point

[nocturne wolf]

You can rarely find vegvisirs at stonehenges

[opal prairie]

Nah the plains is a new learning curve, took me a while to be as comfortable in it as I am now.

[errant knoll]

Look for stonehenge like formations, not necessarily a full dtonehenge circle but sometimes a stack of 3 rocks located in the middle of nowhere contains a vegvisir

[hoary mirage]

i mean when my experience with first entering plains was immediatly getting jumped by like 5 goblin a 1 star and like 3 mosquitoes it kinda sucked

especially when 1 stars would hit for more then half my hp and instantly stagger me

[opal prairie]

Yeah, stepping into a new biome is always scary.

[errant knoll]

Whenever you enter a new biome there's usually a mindset shift thag has to accompany to see success there.

[hoary mirage]

probably my fault for not upgrading gear though

[errant knoll]

A alight change of approach is usually needed

[hoary mirage]

the mace is starting to feel worser honestly

the knockback is screwing me over

my main issue is that whenever i landed a hit it would knock them out of my range

[opal prairie]

Bow em from far away, when they get close, leap attack with knife, dodge roll when needed, parry if you can and hope for a stagger and stab em to death.

[rotund parrot]

Maces are extremely inefficient at killing most things because of the knockback

[errant knoll]

Depends, if you're using frosgner that knockback and slow is an absolute godsend for dealing with groups

[hoary mirage]

idk everytime it would just knock them away from my range

[errant knoll]

Mace is more about safety than speed killing

[hoary mirage]

like usually mountain and before the mace would usually doesnt do enough knockback to knock them out of melee range

[opal prairie]

That is why i like the knives so much, no knockback and they are fast.

[gray sand]

Yes. This is why I stop using them.

[errant knoll]

Frostner has more knockback than other maces, it's because crowd control is its primary strength

[hoary mirage]

havent tried the knife since it felt pretty bad early

wasnt a fan

[nocturne wolf]

Maces are good as a tool but not as a main weapon

[gray sand]

If you need the knockback, just use the two-handed version.

[hoary mirage]

i dunno if i should bother trying another weapon since my mace lvl is like 60

dont have anything else leveled up

[opal prairie]

The lunge attack is good and if you pare with a buclker for a parry and stagger you can keep certain mobs stun locked or take off a good chunk of life be doing the three attacks in the staggered time.

[gray sand]

Bother.
Skill level isn't relevant.

[rotund parrot]

Of course you should, levels are not very important

[gray sand]

It's free stats, the game is balanced around all of your skills being 0.

[hoary mirage]

isnt it a 144% dmg boost at max though

[errant knoll]

Like if you're a melee build running into a goblin village without frostner is kinda silly, but you'd prefer knives or swords as a primary killing tool, then switch to frostner if things go south to push enemies back. Slow and either retreat or slowly pick them off one at a time

[hoary mirage]

that sounds pretty noticable

[opal prairie]

They help but are not that important.

[gray sand]

How is it silly?

[nocturne wolf]

Some attacks can’t be jumped with low jump skill

[gray sand]

Noticable but not essential.
Like I said, the game balance doesn't factor your skill levels. They are literally free stats.

(And you level things really quickly if you're good about being Rested.)

[errant knoll]

Assuming you have frostner that is.

Remember we are talking to someone who is progressing the biome and doesn't have your level of experience. They already made frostner

It's not like I'm suggesting they go out of their way to make a weapon they don't already have

[hoary mirage]

i did manage to progress a bit to be able to make plain gea

[rotund parrot]

Yeah you do a bit more damage and use less stamina, which helps but the new weapon type will catch up eventually and the first levels go very fast

[hoary mirage]

i made the spiky mace and the shield

[gray sand]

I would rather take any Iron weapon or Fang Spear over Frostner into the Plains.

[merry pebble]

I am really sorry Blob but i really really don't think that jumping over attacks Is a strategy looked at much when balancing things 😂

[hoary mirage]

what weapon type would you guys recommend

[errant knoll]

My first run through of plains I would have died a lot more if not for frostner

[gray sand]

Whichever you, personally, have the most fun with.

[errant knoll]

I just adapted to the extra knockback and used it as a secondary weapon

[hoary mirage]

thing is i really havent tried any other weapon type

[gray sand]

Axes are good damage and they save you an inventory slot because of their dual purpose.

[hoary mirage]

not all that worried about inventory slots

[gray sand]

(Said no one who has played for 100 hours ever...)

[errant knoll]

They have their strengths and weaknesses, best thing is to jurt make some, try and see how you feel.

I personally really enjoy using knives for melee range because the skill levels up really fast, they don't slow me down, low stamina usage and cheap to make

But knives are a bit marmite I think, you either love them or hate them

[nocturne wolf]

Knives are generally great weapons but the movement on the secondary can be quite annoying in some situations

[rotund parrot]

Knifes for the first half then sword for the second half while using bows all over

[hoary mirage]

also do ppl generally bother upgrading gear

[gray sand]

Very, very yes,.

[errant knoll]

Depends on the gear for me

[hoary mirage]

idk if i should care about it

[nocturne wolf]

I upgrade to level 3 where possible. Level 4 is too expensive

[hoary mirage]

went the whole game without upgrading so far

[gray sand]

I do lvl 4's on everything.

[errant knoll]

If you upgrade some gear to level 3 or 4 you can sometimes skip gear from the next biome

[rotund parrot]

At least to level 2 always, 3 if it's going to be used a long time, 4 if it doesn't require metal, max level for all the lategame gear

[leaden elbow]

Yesterday my sister died at the start of a playing session and we had the brilliant idea of save scumming that one death, but what ended up being is her characters empty inventory being saved, but not grave she died at. We lost items, most of them replacable quite easily (half of them are already replaced) biggest issue being iron (sad but its fine) and megingjord. Whats the fastest way i can get coins for a new meningjord for her? Troll hunting?

[hoary mirage]

oh yea also do bosses hp scale with player count

[hoary mirage]

crypt farming was pretty good for money for me

[nocturne wolf]

If a grave doesn’t save, load a backup with the manage saves button on character select. Don’t quit the game immediately after dying.

[near furnace]

Even shields?! 😮

[errant knoll]

The best way to try and get Gold quick is usually to try and explore and look for new crypts and stuff

[leaden elbow]

Wait so she can put in the new stuff in a chest and get her old character?

[gray sand]

Shields? You mean dodging? 😏

[errant knoll]

It's faster than looking for and killing trolls will be i think

[leaden elbow]

It was like 10 hours ago tho, it prolly saved a few times in the meanwhile

[near furnace]

ah right. level 4 rolly polly

[gray sand]

😄

[nocturne wolf]

Dodging? You mean jumping? 😏

[candid basalt]

Who needs dodge when they have bubble

[leaden elbow]

So far i had to get her new troll armor, and got like 200 coins from that. Were crypt hunting anyway, scrap iron is needed.

[near furnace]

https://tenor.com/view/panda-cute-roll-rolling-gif-17653438

[leaden elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/what-the-gif-15375505645985080248

Shielding behind you:

[rotund parrot]

Love potion was genuinely a good money making hack when I tested it on unexplored black forests

[errant knoll]

If you keep going through crypts you should get money from that anyway, just make sure you loot all the jewels and sell them to haldor

It's an annoying loss but something you should be able to make up

[leaden elbow]

No love potion in early iron age i think (sex potion)

[errant knoll]

Depends on rng

[leaden elbow]

How far back do backups save? Does that imply she can get her old stuff in a chest and merge new with old lost stuff?

Pls answer :3

[errant knoll]

Well, or you could cheat and look up your map online, but if not then consider it just luck, rng isn't really the right word lol

[leaden elbow]

Well i dont wanna cheat haha, i actually find troll hunting fun anyway since i can get blueberries which are pretty easy to run out of for me

[errant knoll]

Yeah I'm not suggesting you cheat, just saying that basednon where you explore you could get love potions right near the start, or never

[leaden elbow]

Fair

[errant knoll]

It's all luck unless you explore the whole world or look up your map

[rotund parrot]

It's very easy to get money just doing burial chambers and troll caves or just exploring the sunken crypt if you are at the iron age

[nocturne wolf]

I don’t know how far back the backups save, but if everything goes into a chest you can keep the items she currently has.

[leaden elbow]

Also, my character saves when my world saves. Why does her character save so often?

Every death, every teleport etc. Even when we both force closed game

[opal prairie]

Troll hunting while you roam the dark forest in search of burial chambers and do some grave robbing.
Even faster is using the console.

[leaden elbow]

Console my ass i tried to cheat items back when she first lost her stuff permanently but console just errors out on the BepInEx log and crashes my game

[rotund parrot]

How many times does one need to mention he does not want to cheat before people stop suggesting he cheats?

[leaden elbow]

But nah ill see about the manage saves thing first, seems promising

[opal prairie]

Aah mods breaking the console or console breaking the mods.
You could turn off all mods and try like that.

[leaden elbow]

Hey, read this

I dont wanna use console. Whenever i do in other games for things like this i always felt bad for it. Bugged minecraft unfair death? No, commands and stuff are stinky as they make me feel as i just went into creative and gave myself 10000 diamonds

[opal prairie]

Fair enough.

[candid basalt]

Uses mods; doesn’t want to cheat …..

[opal prairie]

Till everyone has read it and knows, I guess.

[opal prairie]

Big difference.

[leaden elbow]

Since when is modding itself cheating? Client side visuals are NOT cheating. If you count removing the 0.15s pause between attacks cheating, you do you, but that pause made combat feel like shit since its uncontrollable

[errant knoll]

Mods aren't exactly cheating, like depending on the mod it might be fair to consider it as such

[leaden elbow]

Thats the only gameplay changing mod i have fyi

[nocturne wolf]

What pause between attacks?

[errant knoll]

But there's a big difference between something that makes recipes cheaper (just reducing grind) vs something which makes all your attacks do 100x more damage

[leaden elbow]

Like seriously i never noticed it but theres a 0.15s pause between attacks of every kind. Yes i attack faster now but at least its more fluid

[opal prairie]

I'm guessing the animation pause.

[leaden elbow]

Yeah

[errant knoll]

I've personally never felt like there was a pause, at least not in a sense that felt un-natural or clunky.

The issue I have with combat is more a lack of verticality

[leaden elbow]

Since its client sided i assume the slow turn around when blocking behind you is too, id kill for a mod to speed it up

[errant knoll]

If I ever did mod combat it would be so that i could more easily strike down, or up

[leaden elbow]

Digitalroots sloped combat assistance. (Above you its very clunky but i can knife the leeches now)

[rotund parrot]

I always use the knife on leeches in vanilla and never had the slightest issue with it

[nocturne wolf]

All vertical combat ‘issues’ can be solved by just positioning yourself correctly

[errant knoll]

Knives strike faster than other weapons too, much faster

[leaden elbow]

Eh i often get super close. From loke 0.5m away i can in vanilla but up close where my dumbass goes i can with the mod

[errant knoll]

While I agree in a sense there are places where the only thing you can do is jurt run and pray you find some flat land, namely the mountain

[leaden elbow]

Anyway it exists what a viking does with it doesnt really matter

[errant knoll]

I dont really have an issue with lack of vertical combat elsewhere, but in the mountains I find it just annoying

[tacit crystal]

Or using spear throw

[nocturne wolf]

Pickaxes are great for reaching enemies above and below you

[tacit crystal]

True. War pickaxes when?

[rotund parrot]

You pick where you fight, even on a slope just being on the same elevation as the enemy will work fine

[nocturne wolf]

Berserkir pickaxes? Battlepickaxe? Pickaxes are already two-handed. 1h pickaxe when?

[tacit crystal]

Dual pickaxes, the dual axe hitting animation could work for them too.

[errant knoll]

When you're fight 1 enemy yes, when you're being harrassed at wolves who are at w separate heights on a slope I feel my only course of action is to just run and dodge roll spam until I can somehow get them both on a more flat surface

[hoary mirage]

dual pickaxes sounds like climbing gear with extra steps

[nocturne wolf]

Why stop at two?

[errant knoll]

To me that's an element of the game that's not meaningful, it's just annoying

[hoary mirage]

main reason i never wanted to use spears tbh

if something isnt directly in front of you at the same height its such a pain to hit them

[tacit crystal]

Work for them three 🙃

[errant knoll]

Your telling me the viking can point his bow up or down, or his stave up or down but he can't somehow angle his sword up or down?

It just makes no sense

I don't think a viking just loses braincells the moment they put down a bow and pick up a mace or a sword

[hoary mirage]

magical sticks of harm

[dark dirge]

how does one beat elder

[hoary mirage]

shoot it

[nocturne wolf]

I use a melee weapon and slice his legs until there are no legs

[hoary mirage]

i just spam fire arrows at it with a finewood bow to kill it

just play around pillars or trees

so you can hide behind them if he shoot his roots

[errant knoll]

Multiple ways to beat elder but I think most players who are on a first playthrough and not confident would be best off hitting him with fire arrows and baiting projectiles behind pillars

[hoary mirage]

spamming arrows from far away has been my go to strategy for all bosses so far

outside of bonemass

[errant knoll]

Arrows is usually the safe, albeit not always most efficient, way

[tacit crystal]

Cut down like a tree. Any weapon do really, fire arrows are also effective.

Dodging him is easy, he has slow melee attacks.

[nocturne wolf]

His melee attacks are less dangerous than his ranged attack so if you are going to use a bow stay close enough so he doesn’t use the ranged attack

[errant knoll]

Or stand far away but close to the pillars near his summoning altar, you can use them for cover

Of course it goes without saying also to prepare the best food you can, we're talking deer stew and Carrot Soup

[nocturne wolf]

Deer stew, carrot soup and either queens jam or minced meat sauce

[hoary mirage]

do ppl actually use regular meals once they unlock feasts

regular meals dont feel worth it

[errant knoll]

Regular meals from.the biome ahead usually match or beat feasts from the current biome, they're just not providing balanced stats

[hoary mirage]

idk mountain meals felt worser then smth like the meadow or blackforest feasts

maybe gonna be a bit different with plains though i dont think they're going to beat the mountain and ocean feasts

[errant knoll]

If you look st the stats provided by the meals you can see thag you'll get more overall stats from them, just that the meal is only eaten once.

You could stack up feasts for a "cheap" option

[mild thunder]

I'd just like to say after my wife and I had a kid and losing our free time to more work and duties, I've recently been able to play a bit again and it's been great! The updates look like they're going to be fun and the mod scene is intense.. over 1200 mods on Overwolf. Thanks for keeping up with the game.

[errant knoll]

But then when you're doing harder areas max out on stats

I'll be honest I actually wasn't that impressed by the earlier feasts, the only thing I really liked about them was the duration

[hoary mirage]

idk being able to get 500 mins worth of pretty good food has been what i've been using the whole game

though ill probably Switch the swamp feast for smth else

probably a meat pie

sailor and hearthy logger feasts just seem too good to replace

[errant knoll]

For value on used materials they're nice but I'd only use for older biomes. Thing is if I'm exploring older biomes I'd much rather stock up on stamina food than feasts balanced stats

[dark dirge]

thanks guys

[hoary mirage]

what food combo you usually run

like food types

[errant knoll]

Depends on my build, if I'm doing a heavy/parry build I'll run 2 hp and 1 balance.

If I'm building ill usually go 2 stam and feast (just in case of a raid), or exploringand gathering in older biomes I'll usually use 3 stam foods

If doing more of a parry build then it'll be 2 stam 1 feast/hp again

[opal prairie]

2 stam one health when mostly going bow, 1 stam 2 health when mostly going knives, 2 eitr one stam in mistlands, 2 eitr 1 health in ashlands.
2 health 1 stam when going melee or bow in ashlands.

[dark dirge]

do u guys mark the dungeons that u finished?

[errant knoll]

I do yes

[hoary mirage]

i leave a mark then cross it once im done

[errant knoll]

Most finished dungeons make safe havens if you're caught out at night time

You can just hide out in one of them till day breaks

[hoary mirage]

also are mountain dungeon rare

i've only found one so far

[rotund parrot]

Kind of, they can be hard to find and they can only be pretty high up

[opal prairie]

I don't mark on the map but I put a campfire inside the dungeon to the left of the entrance, so if I go into a dungeon I can see if I have done that one already.
Except for crypts in the swamp, I bust the torches outside.
The infested mines in mistlands get a portal in a chain of portals so I can go there to farm food stuff again.

For me it takes about the same amount of time to open map check where I am see if there is a marker and close the map again compared to going in the dungeon, looking left and if a campfire is there moving back out.
It also doubles as getting a quick and easy rested bonus at the start of the dungeon.

[errant knoll]

For right when you've finished mountains biome, both those feasts are temporarily BiS for maximising overall stats, but as soon as you get to the plains you will acquire food that can give you slightly more stats overall, like eg bread and lox meat pie. It's barely a change so I'd save those for min max moments like fighting a boss or raiding a village

But regardless I'd stockpile on bread for building and exploring since it's a cheap food and 70 stamina is great when you dont care about the hp

[rotund parrot]

When I want stamina I just eat 3 feasts because they are so inexpensive, from the start you get 45 35 35 with feasts which is more than enough and also keeps you safe with decent health

[errant knoll]

Many Stam foods are fairly inexpensive anyway though, like salad and bread are both cheap

I'd probably go with mistlands galore, salad and bread right now if I was doing "all stam"

[cosmic igloo]

"You no longer gain cooking skill by trying to use a full cooking station"

so you could just make it full and then have a macro spam it in order to lvl?

[rotund parrot]

yes

[cosmic igloo]

lmao

[rotund parrot]

Could even be empty and not on a fire and just trying to put something on would give you 0.4 xp per click

[errant knoll]

Once again, a petition to put the "galore" part back in mushrooms galore feast

"Different kinds of mushrooms" is a bit of a lie when it's only got jotun puffs

[gray sand]

Jiggly Puffs > Jotun Puffs amirite?

Unrelated: Have moved to a 5 smelter system and absolutely love it.

[rotund parrot]

12!

[gray sand]

Not sure why you need 479,001,600 smelters, but you do you.

[final bloom]

Whats the best way to farm for Chains? Running in Swamps? Or raiding Dvergr to desconstruct them castles?

[near furnace]

because of coolness 🤔

[gray sand]

Neither.

Doing Sunken Crypts.

[near furnace]

having 479,001,600 is amazing for output

[final bloom]

I've read that is a limited amount, but kind of easy to get, from Hildir boss tower. How many of this towers is available?

[merry pebble]

5 smelters and 4 kilns are great 😄

[gray sand]

You're on your own if you're completely ignoring what I say 🤷‍♂️

[gray sand]

Kilns? You mean Fire Arrows?

[merry pebble]

Well for anyone who doesent have fire hazzard on, kilns 😄

[final bloom]

I did not ignored, I replied to you. Took note, but asked one more question

[gray sand]

Did your reading not give you the answer concerning what you read about?

[final bloom]

I still dont know how many Towers is available to raid. But I guess I can check on Wiki

Whatever

[merry pebble]

3 but afaik there are no chains there

[final bloom]

Too bad D: But thanks! I still need to fight those towers anyway

[tepid prawn]

What’s a kiln I just use surtling spawners in swamp and overdone neck tails before that lol

[gray sand]

@rotund parrot we have had the "ideal number" debate in-depth multiple times.

[merry pebble]

Am i the only one who actually uses the old school method of getting coal? XD (Tho i acknowledge the method of burning meat also sits up there in old school techniques xD)

[rotund parrot]

Sorry

[gray sand]

"Old school method"?

[errant knoll]

Go to swamps at night and looking for wraiths can work if you don't want too many

[final bloom]

Thats what I'll probably do. Create a loop with some portal, going though about 3 or 4 Swamps

So when I want some easy chains, without doing a whole lotta exploration, I can just walk around them at night

[errant knoll]

So, I'm now wondering how I'm ever going to get anything done in the ashlands. I can't leave the point I arrived at, at all

It's just not feasible

I've spent the entire Ingame day fighting enemies, and done 0 exploring

[merry pebble]

Just run and ignore them 🙂 they will eventually loose you, it is a battlefield, you cant really take a stroll in those burning woods

[errant knoll]

Looks like I'm gonna have to heavily fortify my portal then. I can't just leave them when they run so close to it

[rotund parrot]

Best way to ensure you never leave that point

[merry pebble]

You can bait them on yourself for a while and then the portal will be out of loaded range

[errant knoll]

So do I have to take mats foe a workbench, shield core and another portal with me everywhere I go then?

Because I'm not being funny I don't think I can run forever lol, there's far too many

[rotund parrot]

Highly recommended

[merry pebble]

Work bench and portal yes, shield core not that necessary 🙂

[errant knoll]

That's a lot of inventory space :/

Oh if the shield isn't that necessary

[rotund parrot]

You will still have enough inventory space to pick up important ressource like the drops from askvins and the vulture meat

For the ingredients you can just make a dedicated run to gather those and explore a bit from the point where you have at least 2 different portals

[plush umbra]

Guys i finally finished my great wall #screenshots

[light moat]

Nope, I still refuse to burn wood piles for coal- I don’t even farm coal from geysers 😅 good ole’ chopping trees and throwing wood in kilns. Still don’t store wood in chests either lol

[rotund parrot]

I think the most important thing to keep in mind with coal is that you know you will eventually need a lot of it so you can just use a couple kilns to get coal slowly but surely before you get the metal. So when you arrive with a bunch of metal or unlock the ability to smelt blackmetal, you already have all the coal you need and you can use the space for smelters instead of kilns.

[wicked snow]

Against the general charred of the ashlands, what do you guys think is more adequate? +4 Mistwalker with its frost or Nidhodd of the storm with it's lightning damage?

[rotund parrot]

Definitely nidhogg the thundering

[wicked snow]

my thought too, now we just have to get lucky with gems, so far only 2 bloodstones for 2 fortresses

[rotund parrot]

To be fair it's good to get bloodstone early to be able to make the gem cutter

[wicked snow]

and the final upgrade to the forge will be in deep north amirite/

[errant knoll]

Ok so I actually managed to do a lot of in game exploring today, while still not just running from fights.

I think I just had a particularly bad landing

There's a certain magic to this chaos honestly, I don't find fighting Morgen anywhere near as stressful now, in fact I'm starting to get quite relieved as the morgen takes out the trash for me

I also think I have unfortunately landed on a micro land patch though, with no PoI except the boss.

[final bloom]

Remember to build a backup portal somewhere far and never go back to that place unless it's really needed

[errant knoll]

I'll remember that for next time, I think I might have to leave this spot and sail somewhere else though, it looks like a micro island

[rotund parrot]

Are you near the center of the map?

[errant knoll]

No, I've approached it from.the far West cause that's where the queen was

[rotund parrot]

That is most likely why, the center is much deeper while the edge gets narrower and narrower so the islands on the edge will most often be small islands while in the center you will likely have a huge landmass

[errant knoll]

Unless a lot of the land is just shallow water and it's actually connected to something, I don't know lol

Well at least I can leave the portal here since the boss is there

So it wasn't like it was a total waste of time

[rotund parrot]

For sure, your best course of action is probably to leave the hot water, follow the edge of the ashlands until you reach the middle and while doing so you will likely be able to see the landmass from a distance, if not just reenter near the middle

May be safer and easier to destroy the boat and rebuild it near the queen and head that way instead

[errant knoll]

Also got lots of building mats. These lava blobs farm things faster than I ever could lol

[warm depot]

Why are they nerfing capes every freaking patchnote???!

[opal prairie]

What cape are they nerfing?

[rotund parrot]

Wrong channel

[warm depot]

Wait am I mistaken, is the asksvin cloak a nerf or a buff?

[tacit crystal]

Rework.

[warm depot]

Thank you Sherlock

[opal prairie]

Buff, you always get run speed but stamina usage is lowered if you run with the wind.

[warm depot]

Mhmhmh

[tacit crystal]

Good change IMO.

[opal prairie]

Yeah, now you can zoom anywhere with the cape and if you happen to be running with the wind you'll use less stamina.

[silver oracle]

I MADE A CAULDRON

FOOD 2 FINALLY

[cosmic igloo]

yay

[opal prairie]

Cooking can commence and you can pretend you are a witch, do make sure you weigh more than a duck.

[rotund parrot]

Another important step will be making a cultivator and start growing food, that will unlock much better food and food is extremely important in the game

[warm depot]

I still remember cooking high tier food on the wooden cooking station

And I also remember how upset people were with the food changes

But I saw it as a great overhall

[silver oracle]

ooooh

i also made a fermenter and fermenting my first mead

[rotund parrot]

You're doing great!

[silver oracle]

I'm progressing... slowly..

[errant knoll]

That's how it goes if you're playing blind, which is the best way honestly. Speed progression is more for repeat playthroughs

I remember progressing at a snails pace too

[silver oracle]

how many weapons are in this game? i've just been using axes

[rotund parrot]

There's a lot of them, many of them would be spoilers, just look at what you have available and try what looks fun to you

[tacit crystal]

You have probably unlocked some new weapon types at Forge when you obtained Bronze.

[silver oracle]

ah

[silver oracle]

I unlocked a big hammer that i haven't crafted. I need to get to the mountains

literally don't know how to get up to the mountains without freezing

[trail pelican]

you do NOT need to go the mountains, yet

[rotund parrot]

Swamp is where you need to go first after the forest

[silver oracle]

oh

[errant knoll]

Ye, mountains is the 4th biome in the games intended progression, but due to spawning mechs you usually find mountains before a swamp. That can be quite confusing

[silver oracle]

ah

[rotund parrot]

Receiving a swamp key upon defeating the second boss is pretty self explanatory

[tacit crystal]

You mean 2 handed Club (Stagbreaker)? It is quite useful weapon.

[errant knoll]

If he hasn't killed the second boss yet he wouldn't be privy to that information

[nocturne wolf]

But he also shouldn’t be trying to go to later biomes

[errant knoll]

True enough.

[silver oracle]

i've dumped in like 18 hours in this game

[errant knoll]

And besides the game is supposed to encourage some manner of exploring - there's things you can do a little bit in later biomes if you find them early and feel like taking risks, though the mountains are actively locked by the cold

[rain flare]

No offence, but 18 hours is a very small amount ❤️
I look forward to you experiencing the whole game and all it’s wonders 🥰

[rain flare]

Campfires - you just need a constant source of heat

[trail pelican]

@errant knoll you can hide from the freezing by dropping campfire or building temp shelters, i know the 'fire/warm' effect blocks it, and i think shelter effect MIGHT too

[silver oracle]

so i need a shit ton of resin and wood

oh yeah where is the 2nd boss? is it in the swamps?

[trail pelican]

but yeah mostly just no upside risk, since the mats there for the most part can't be used for stuff without the appropriate workstation upgrades

[rotund parrot]

I would advice agaisn't it

[rain flare]

Basically - keep an eye out for the mountain mobs though
They hit real hard

[rain flare]

Black Forest

[errant knoll]

While true It's an awful lot of effort for very little progression, vs for example the plains where as long as you're carefulynyou can wander about a bit

[silver oracle]

hm

[trail pelican]

they hit like a 18 wheeler packed with bricks

[rotund parrot]

Follow the intented path to avoid yourself a lot of frustration and it will end up being a waste of time as you cannot harvest or use any of the ressource up there

[errant knoll]

General progression, whenever you're directed to a new biome after beating a boss, the next boss you need to fight is also in that biome

[rain flare]

Have you tried to tame any animals yet?
There is one in the mountains that makes for an excellent early game companion

[silver oracle]

nope

[rain flare]

Well, it’s that 18 wheeler Archon is talking about

[errant knoll]

Definitely, do not risk it until you at least have some swamp level gear

[trail pelican]

if the 18 wheeler had like, a jet engine strapped to the back

[errant knoll]

It's just not worth lol

[opal prairie]

I'd rather get my mind smashed out by a slice of lemon wrapped around a gold brick.

[errant knoll]

Now THAT is a reference to something I forgot existed. Thanks for reminding me lol

[opal prairie]

Don't forget your towel.

[errant knoll]

Bless you

[rain flare]

It’s 100% doable though
Just use your brain and you’ll be alright

Fear holds you back massively in this game - just be careful and learn from your mistakes

At the very least poke your nose in far enough to get an idea of what is in there but not so far you can’t pull it out again 🥳

That mob is 100% worth the risks involved in taming it

[errant knoll]

Leave the fear behind on repeat playthroughs. When you're going in blind and have no idea what's coming it's easy to end up dead with your gear stranded in an annoying place

FYI, I HAVE done it, so I know full well it can be done but it's one thing to do it, it's another entirely to suggest chucking a new player in at the deep end

[rotund parrot]

I don't see much benefit in taming wolf other than pretty fragile defense agaisn't annoying mobs but that will get destroyed by a raid

[errant knoll]

One of the skills you end up learning is tactical deaths if you get in too deep - THAT is when one is ready for stuff like early taming of later biome creatures

Before then, cautious, always

[nocturne wolf]

The best part of taming wolves is making a pit to kick greylings into

[candid basalt]

Best part of early wolf taming is watching a pack demolish the Elder

[warm sandal]

as the elder does not pose to much of a trouble i prefer doing it myself and do not go to the extend to spend so much time getting them tamed 😄 but well ... to each their own 😄

[errant knoll]

I usually skip wolf taming other than maybe seeking out a 2 star wolf for completions sake

[candid basalt]

It’s just fun to watch. And I do a lot in this game for the lulz

[errant knoll]

Likewise though you could come back and summon elder again later and watch it without the risk

[rotund parrot]

It's also much easier in forest gear to go tame loxes than it is to tame wolf and the loxes are much more useful

[candid basalt]

Ooh I should watch my bubble skeles fight it

[errant knoll]

Indeed, if something goes wrong with a wolf death is much more likely

It's a lot easier to run away from lox if something goes wrong

[rotund parrot]

They are pretty blind, nothing should go wrong taming a group of lox

[candid basalt]

deathsquito noises

[errant knoll]

That's true too, but I like to consider the worst case which is, me making a mistake