valheim-chat

[grave wagon]

You gotta make them happy.

[lunar ridge]

Do it for them

Or your boars, or wolves, or loxen

[grave wagon]

Does anyone stop collecting them at a certain point or do you guys feel like me where it's a pokemon situation and I need them all?

[lunar ridge]

There have been legit playthroughs I've been forced to construct a whole bee compound

We're talking like, 50 bees

[grave wagon]

I did that on my last playthrough. Then my world got wrecked when I had a computer issue and I lost it. I'll have to remake it when I get enough bees.

I'm at 17 right now, I think 26 and I'll think about it

[lunar ridge]

Even on my current playthrough I've just killed Bonemass and I'm already at 19

It's basically an addiction.

[grave wagon]

Honey is hard hitting.

[lunar ridge]

I'd be in real trouble if I were the type of player who's compelled to always extract honey when full

[grave wagon]

I've recently kicked the habit. I view them as their own chests now and I go retrieve it when I need it.

[lunar ridge]

I subscribe to Beehive autonomy

[vocal rivet]

Beehives are a monarchy.

[uncut bough]

pufferfish gives oozer too?

[lunar ridge]

The American in me wishes to refute, the Canadian in me is willing to turn a blind eye lol

[uncut bough]

i think the canadian in you wants you to go overboard on that one

[regal spoke]

And a Matriarchy

[lunar ridge]

I wonder how Bees see us as players

Gods to which honey is offered as sacrifice, perhaps?

[nocturne wolf]

Builders of nice beehives?

[exotic cradle]

explain the stinging

[vocal rivet]

Yeah.

[regal spoke]

They were happy in their own hives. We placed them in our hives. So they see us as wardens or somewhere up the chain from Queen?

[merry pebble]

a-holes who steal their food that they worked hard for?

[uncut bough]

well now i got sap and oozer

i will make ooze bomb

[lunar ridge]

Well, first you've gotta show them who's boss. Once they figure you're a merciful god willing to let bygones be bygones in return for the occasional offering, the deal is struck?

[exotic cradle]

I'll say yes

[lunar ridge]

[grave wagon]

I think we're slaves because we always make sure their needs come first.

[lunar ridge]

I like to think of it as a symbiotic relationship, helps me sleep better at night.

[grave wagon]

That seems like slavery with extra steps.

[lunar ridge]

I get honey, you get protection from brutes lol

[exotic cradle]

the bees are sleeping

[lunar ridge]

Okay, what about.... indentured servitude? lol

[dim adder]

tbf they would be safer if they never had been taken to your base

[lunar ridge]

Yeah but then no honey, big sad....

[grave wagon]

Imagine placing the bees in the very location you found them and having to go back to that spot to collect the honey

[dim adder]

but at the same time they could just up and leave yet they dont do it... seems like the bees are just too traumatized to break out of the abusive relationship cycle

[exotic cradle]

Bees are strong enough to kill a greyling

[lunar ridge]

That chore alone would take a full irl day lol

[grave wagon]

That might be the most bee-centric playthrough you could do

Do it for the bees!

[regal spoke]

FOR THE BEES

[lunar ridge]

If I'm so busy with the bees, how does one find time to drink ale? or farm my onions!? oh, the humanity!

[frail roost]

You'd have to build a tower for every beehive cuz enemies attack em

[lunar ridge]

I'd be okay with that.

[frail roost]

Bee Lighthouses, as far as the eye can see

[regal spoke]

Only if they have line of sight

[lunar ridge]

but if no line of sight, they're probably too enclosed and sad to make honey.

The bees aren't happy

[frail roost]

Earth ring + portal + beehive but it would look ugly asf

[regal spoke]

Just need a box mobs can't see the bees through

Plus do mobs exist outside of render distance

If I leave a boat across the map. It will be there days later

[lunar ridge]

I'm not 100% on how that mechanic works tbh

[frail roost]

I do wonder if a solo beehive is enough of a structure to trigger a raid

[pliant hatch]

Even a Greydwarf Brute if that one is foolish enough to attack multiple hives.

[lunar ridge]

But I'd be inclined to say you're right based solely on experience

[lunar ridge]

I don't believe it's a part of the raid-enducing structures

[merry pebble]

you need 3 base structures to trigger a raid (exept "you are being hunted" raid)

and beehive is not a base structure

[lunar ridge]

who would win, 12 wolves or 40 stones and one hoey boi?

[regal spoke]

Do what to who?

[merry pebble]

i asume they mean to raise a beehive on an earthen pillar using hoe and see if it will stand up against wolves?

[lunar ridge]

It's a reference to people who "cheese" the encounter by raising earth where they stand until 8m and waiting for it to end

I say "cheese" in quotations because it's still valid just feels cheap idk

[strange arrow]

where's the fun in that smh

[nocturne wolf]

You’d get much less items doing that, it doesn’t seem worth it

[lunar ridge]

Yeah, it's basically free item delivery every time

[strange arrow]

not getting those wolf meats and pelts just standing there

[lunar ridge]

I used to play with a buddy who had a deep-seated wolf PTSD from that raid and he'd always carry around a bunch of stone just in case

It was mildly entertaining

[strange arrow]

ofc you could shoot them but still, eugh

[nocturne wolf]

It caused my only death in mountains but thats because I had bad food and hadn’t learned that parrying everything isnt always a good idea
I ran out of stamina because my only stamina food was honey

[regal spoke]

Parrying multiple mobs is tricky to be sure

[lunar ridge]

What do you mean I can't parry when a wolf is charging my backside like it's found the lucky charms

[dry dew]

someome brazziliam ?

[nocturne wolf]

That wasnt the problem, my stamina was.

I didnt know parrying could be a bad idea because it always worked well for me until then
(This was my first playthrough)

[regal spoke]

I understand stamina management and still find myself low. Just slowing down and dashing as needed has been a slick adaptation

[lunar ridge]

My "Parry = not always the move" was also in my first playthrough, in swamps, parried an abomination but still got sent into swim-deep water where I proceeded to be pincushioned by draugrs lol

[frail roost]

That's why I run a single mixed food and all Stam food

[regal spoke]

Loyal 2 hp 1 stam player

[lunar ridge]

Right now I'm running as the vanguard in my duo playthrough so I run double hp, sword and board

[frail roost]

I also run Max enemy damage + creature command + control mob for 5 star enemies

[lunar ridge]

based, respecc.

[frail roost]

So it's wiser to stay on the move then even think of taking a hit

[regal spoke]

Respect returned

[frail roost]

Enemies in Vanilla Valheim are just too easy without modifiers

[lunar ridge]

good ol' tank and spank strat, never fails(until it does)

[regal spoke]

To stay moving is a fundamental principle of survival

[nocturne wolf]

Walking backwards is the easiest way to live in a fight, and one of the most effective

[regal spoke]

Or working the camera to watch behind

[vocal rivet]

Only moving when necessary conserves stamina.

[regal spoke]

Precisely

Took some time to get that dialed in across biomes

[lunar ridge]

As someone who's spent a winter completing an advanced outdoor survival course in Canada, no movement is my preferred M.O lol

[regal spoke]

Extreme cold has that power. I've experienced -60 not moving is advised

[lunar ridge]

If you've had to boil pond tubers for calories, truly one of the worst experiences in my life lol

[lunar ridge]

the only real benefit to -60 is that you're not going to start sweating pretty much no matter what activity you're doing, until you stop. Then you're omegafucked.

Better have a fire and a shelter set up at the end of the hustle lol

[regal spoke]

Right if your in it. But choose not to be if you can lol

[lunar ridge]

80% of survival is not getting in that situation to begin with lol

Making sure people know where you're going, when you're going, how long you're going is a massive survival increase already

[regal spoke]

It's a rule in some places

[lunar ridge]

It should be a rule everywhere imo, but some places are just inherently more dangerous yeah

[uncut bough]

i found a tetra lake

it was smaller than i expected but i wont complain, it makes fishing easier

[lunar ridge]

very nice

[regal spoke]

You can always stock a pond too

[lunar ridge]

Probably the most tedious exploration in the game

[strange arrow]

they are all pretty much like that

[regal spoke]

The hunt for Tetra

[strange arrow]

there's only 1 rare room with a larger pool iirc

[uncut bough]

tetra is so easy to catch, as easy as perch

[lunar ridge]

I tip my hat to people who fish/breed in this game, two things I outright refuse to participate in lol

[strange arrow]

it's something to do while the crops grow, usually xD

[uncut bough]

are they all quality 1?

[regal spoke]

Chilling with some meat on the fire, sipping mead, with a line in the water

[lunar ridge]

I do that enough in real life haha :^)

[regal spoke]

Eyyyy. I don't fish in either reality lol.

[uncut bough]

do tetra respawn? so can i come back here and fish

[regal spoke]

The pond is a spawn point iirc?

[strange arrow]

yes

[uncut bough]

so they do respawn?

[strange arrow]

yes

[uncut bough]

well i am just asking for fun , maybe if they give like a lot of raw fish then i will return

[strange arrow]

the spawn checks are loong tho

[uncut bough]

otherwise these fish give me more headaches than fwiw

[strange arrow]

every couple of days in game may be worth checking, i can't remember if it's 2-3 but around that

[final lily]

are you sure? I'm pretty certain that general spawn triggers occur every 90 seconds to 6 minutes, depending on enemy type.

[strange arrow]

we're talking fish not mobs

[final lily]

are fish not considered mobs by the game?

[uncut bough]

What? the tetra is cooked first before trollfish??? and it gives only 1 raw fish?

[strange arrow]

serpents for example have spawn checks every 1000 seconds

[uncut bough]

yea this is not worth fishing for, i keep 1 tetra to make the hat and that is it

[final lily]

then a few more if you wanna upgrade the hat, of course 😉

[strange arrow]

usually the checks are made long enough to deter the player from "hanging around farming stuff instead of exploring"

[uncut bough]

why do i want to upgrade it

[final lily]

more armor. Not that one is apt to take a fight while wearing a fishing hat, but ya never know 😂

[strange arrow]

it's as valuable as head armor as any other piece, besides bonuses

[final lily]

fully upgraded, its only as strong as a level 1 drake helmet

[strange arrow]

how many points does it give

[final lily]

20 at level 4

just 8 at level 1

[strange arrow]

pretty decent for a piece of leather

[final lily]

I mean yeah, but if i'm looking to wear anything other than metal helmet, then i'm doing so for a specific bonus

idk, mayb some people value the swim skill in non-fishing contexts

[strange arrow]

angler fishing is a lot less obnoxious xD

[final lily]

yeah but then we're doing so from the safety of a boat and therefore not in a position to need armor

[paper marsh]

gjall blares

[final lily]

😂

[strange arrow]

exacto

[final lily]

if a gjall catches me on my boat, i'm already dead

[strange arrow]

or that serpent you somehow didn't see

[uncut bough]

Look if i need to fish with hat, i would have my other stronger hat on me as well

[strange arrow]

or that bunch of leeches you picked up from the nearby swamp

[uncut bough]

So upgrading it for armor is moot point

[paper marsh]

I wish you could increase swim speed

[final lily]

yeah kinda is. Buuuut, completionism!

[uncut bough]

I am content with just level 1, the buffs for fishing is same

I am not fishing for any more tetra, they are absolutely arse to find

[strange arrow]

it's edge case use but so is fishing in total

[uncut bough]

Now i find one, but that is very far away from base, and deep inside mtn

[final lily]

I really hope they add more fishing recipes... Fish Wraps kinda suck unless you're running double HP food, and Anglers don't even get chopped. Idk, feels like a missed opportunity from the devs

I'd love to see one fish based recipe per biome, and have it be superior to other food types in that biome (ala Fish'n'Bread)

[strange arrow]

we all wish for improvements with it

[uncut bough]

Yea i have same wish

[strange arrow]

like a fish n bread option for each biome

yeh indeed

[uncut bough]

Some resources are just massively needed, some are just left for dust after using for armor and weapons, like silver

I now got boat loads of silver, and i already maxed out armor and weapons

Only to realize other than that silver has 0 use

[strange arrow]

you can use it for decorative weapons and chests tho

who doesn't want a few frostner hanging around to flex? xD

[uncut bough]

Same goes for fish, the mechanic would be more engaging if fishing produces a core component of a health/ stamina rich food

[final lily]

tbh I kinda just skip silver. I end up mining a single node so that I can make cooking upgrade and a cape, then forget about it entirely. I don't even smelt the whole node. Shameful, I know...

[uncut bough]

At for now…. Just fish wrap, and that is like worse than serpent stew or lox pie

Hell lox pie is arguably easier to get, cuz lox are easy to hunt/ farm

[final lily]

yeah - especially since one is bound to have tons of serpent meat lying around by the time you hit plains - the Fish Wraps are doubly worthless 😕

[uncut bough]

Fishing takes: get out of bed, get on boat, pray fish bite bait

Do that again till dark, looks inside, only 8 fish caught

Yea that doesn’t give a lot of motivation for player to fish

[strange arrow]

average viking fishing experience:

but i totally get it xD, it sucks quite badly

[uncut bough]

And as i said, the reward afterward isn’t worthy enough to encourage more fishing

Like fishwrap, which pales in comparison to lox pie

[strange arrow]

we need a net, a fish trap, spear fishing, and other uses for the fish in recipes

[uncut bough]

So why would you even use fish wrap lmao

Maybe if serpent stew doesnt exist then yea fish wrap + lox pie might work

[final lily]

Some people run double HP food and run out of Serpent Meat, i suppose... Idk, I've used it before, but then I swapped to double Stamina loadouts and have entirely nixxed the fish wraps ever since

[uncut bough]

But it does exist, so now fish wrap is just relegated to a dark corner

[strange arrow]

yup

even though serpent stew i usually save for bosses and run with easier produced stuff like sausages or wolf skewers mostly

[uncut bough]

Those fishes wont be of good use once u get to higher biomes tho, like i think in plains u just eat wolfskewer, lox pie, and u r grucci

The devs need to put resource sink for fish

Well ok maybe “need” is too harsh, they dont owe anything, but maybe as a QoL feature

[strange arrow]

fish wraps are currently pretty redundant unless you do tons of fishing and not much else at all

[uncut bough]

Like how about fish stew, i know very original

But at least there is something, other than burrito but fish

[final lily]

There is an argument to be made for bringing Fish Wraps into the first Infested Mine on a hardcore playthrough when you're too scared not to run triple HP food and don't yet have any mistlands snacks, to be fair...

that's such a niche use case though, so hardly an argument in their favor

[uncut bough]

They can introduce fish stew type of food, fish curry, fish whatever, fish n chips

[strange arrow]

also what does this game have going in favour of it that most games don't bother with? lots of water

[final lily]

Pickled Fish mayb? I think Scandanavians have a thing for pickled herring irl, no?

[uncut bough]

Maybe fish n chips is too meta, dont add that

Or the geezer gonna demand vinegar

[strange arrow]

why aren't we seeing stuff like dolphins, whales, sea horses, and other interesting aquatic life

[final lily]

we will once they do a mini-update for Ocean biome

[uncut bough]

This is valheim, odin sent us down here not to sight see

[strange arrow]

dolphins could help rescue you if yr boat gets destroyed

[uncut bough]

Yea that works too, anything that uses more fish rlly

[strange arrow]

whales could feed you more than a serpent

[final lily]

hella unethical - I'll pretend I didn't see this...

[strange arrow]

it's just an open goal missed if we don't see this stuff tho

another game will do it and ppl will be like, oh, wish we had this in Valheim

[loud valve]

Or if you're hungry in the ocean

[final lily]

I refuse to kill whales, even in video games. Not happening, evne if i'm hungry.

[uncut bough]

Bro want more stuffs in ocean, so he can eat more….

[final lily]

its bad enough that you guys are eating dogs in the mountains...

[strange arrow]

sharks then

[uncut bough]

At this point just say u want 2 star serpent

It gives more meat for u to eat for the lifetime

[strange arrow]

but you get what i mean

[final lily]

shark fin soup also hella unethical. Sheesh, Meow... unbelievable

[strange arrow]

all fishing is unethical then :p

[loud valve]

Orcas will kill dolphins and almost anything

[final lily]

true facts. Let's just get rid of fishing poles

[loud valve]

So you can kill the whale to save the dolphins

[final lily]

aren't Orcas technically more related to sharks than they are to whales?

I mean... I definitely hope we see them in the Deep North once that comes out - especially given the floating icebergs up there. Would be sooooo scary jumping from 'berg to 'berg, only to get surrounded by Orcas in the water

[uncut bough]

I just want more fish recipes, that is all

[strange arrow]

lets just have a fun game with fun things in it

[loud valve]

Orcas are actually dolphins

That will occasionally eat other species of dolphins

[uncut bough]

Or maybe make a dish out of the entire 9 fish type and give it equal stats to highest health food in game

[strange arrow]

monster sharks, monster whales, this is Valheim, they don't have to represent Earth variations too much

[lunar ridge]

If we don't get polar bears I will quit the game

[loud valve]

Would be cool to see a monster hunt a serpent, then we hunt it

[lunar ridge]

monster hunter style

Always a good time watching two bigbois beat the snot out of each other

[uncut bough]

If we dont get seals i will quit the game

[final lily]

will they be weak to blunt damage, do you think? 😂

[lunar ridge]

blubber OP, probably immune to blunt

[plush umbra]

i sensed mention of MH

[strange arrow]

dang xD

Tofu fault!

[lunar ridge]

[final lily]

so no clubbing baby seals? sad...

[strange arrow]

but being the seal slasher is fine.....

[uncut bough]

You cant even dare to strike at a spotted seal

Otherwise you will be condemned forever by odin

[lunar ridge]

The moment the thought even crosses your mind you've already been locked up for eco terrorism

[final lily]

shit, PETA is at my door, gtg

[lunar ridge]

Seals: Immune to frost and blunt
Frostner enjoyers:

[strange arrow]

s.o.l.

[lunar ridge]

"noooooo why is my weapon not OP at every stage of the game! Noooooo!"

[strange arrow]

Frost giant in the Deep North that just left you as a footprint:

[lunar ridge]

I will love Frost Giants and Mammoths

Rideable Mammoths

[loud valve]

Maybe we'll get giant seals that're pets for the frost giants

[lunar ridge]

Or rideable polar bears. I'll take what they give us

[strange arrow]

flying unicorns

[lunar ridge]

I mean, technically you can ride a gjall....

close enough?

[strange arrow]

rn yeh

[loud valve]

Fight yagluth with a gjall

[strange arrow]

sadly impossible

[lunar ridge]

That would be the longest fight in the game

both are very fire resistant right?

[plush umbra]

gjall are actually neutral to fire

[lunar ridge]

nope, just regular resist, still would take ages lol

[plush umbra]

oh nevermind

i was looking at the weakpoint info 😅

[strange arrow]

if mobs attacked bosses at all

[paper marsh]

Both also do blunt damage tho (and Yag does lightning as well) so it wouldn't be too bad

[plush umbra]

(though yagluth's laser probably would hit the weakpoint the few times he uses it)

[strange arrow]

tame Gjall tho, now we're talking

saddle up xD

[loud valve]

Tick bombs

[lunar ridge]

I've seen folks bumrush Yag with an army of 2star wolves, it was spectacular

[paper marsh]

People do the same with Lox

Fake vikings, not fighting their own battles

[lunar ridge]

Only the realest of viking tank meteors to the chin

[regal spoke]

Have tanked a meatball

[loud valve]

Only melee the queen

[strange arrow]

also when you enter a game that describes itself as a brutal survival game, and yr first job is to kill seemingly innocent deer, the tone is kinda set right there

[lunar ridge]

Deer are quite possibly the only thing in the game truly minding their own damn business

And fish, I guess

[strange arrow]

we have to decide whether it's hellheim, Valheim, or some sort of animal crossing xD

[amber flicker]

Besides tar, are there anything useable in plains / mistlands before modor is killed?

[azure yacht]

Usable how? And mistlands has black marble

And some other pieces

[strange arrow]

you can take a stonecutter to Mistlands and deconstruct stuff

[amber flicker]

Like before unlocking dragon tear

[lunar ridge]

You can tame loxes, but can't ride them yet

[strange arrow]

i think the cooking upgrade is available that way

the mortar and pestle

[lunar ridge]

P sure you need black metal for that, and can only process black metal with blast furnace which needs tear

if im not mistaken

nope nvm no black metal, good to go

[strange arrow]

just marble

corewood and finewood

[lunar ridge]

Sucks all the bread items are locked behind tear but it is what it is

[paper marsh]

Barley for fire resist

[lunar ridge]

Moder is also just depressingly easy to kill imo so it's hardly a lock

[strange arrow]

it's nice not to have to worry about getting if you can't take on the boss just now

[paper marsh]

Moder is pretty easy on regular difficulty

[strange arrow]

i was assuming they were waiting on a group or something

[lunar ridge]

Hardest part about Moder is hauling those dragon eggs around

[strange arrow]

if it's just a case of sweating the fight, go 4 it!

admittedly died once on my last encounter with her

ouchy spray hurts

[paper marsh]

I’ll say Moder is the first boss I’ve been scared of on Very Hard

Well and I guess bonemass, but that’s for different reasons

[strange arrow]

was a terrain moment, got stuck and wallop xD

[paper marsh]

Yea her barrage is crazy

I opted for fenris legs and root chest to be fast enough to outrun it every time

And eikthyr power

[frigid gust]

Doesn't help that you're making very hard into very very hard by not using bows 😛

[paper marsh]

Eh spear does hella damage to her

Also I gifted a friend a draugr fang to help me take her down yet he ended up dying with ranged approach and I survived in melee

[plain bane]

I hate spear but it was absolutely disgusting damage against Moder.

[paper marsh]

Only thing better than spear is prob flesh rippers

[plain bane]

She's tall enough that it's actually hard to miss with the spear. Hitbox stars align just right.

[strange arrow]

real vikings spear the dragon like bosses

[paper marsh]

Granted I did have better armor and was running triple health, so I was able to tank one hit from any of her attacks, whereas he’d instadie to half her attacks

[frail roost]

Just have to embrace the way of the dodge roll

[paper marsh]

Ngl looking at stats and figuring out the logistics of what food and armor I need to tank a hit is really fun

[plain bane]

Got annoyed trying to poison arrow her to death so I waited for her to land and skewered her in frustration; noticed the hp bar went down more in one landing than the past 5 minutes of pincushioning her with the draugr fang.

[frail roost]

Were you also using poison arrows?

[plain bane]

Yep

Like yeah she's weak to fire but fire arrows also do negligible damage at best.

[frail roost]

Yeah she's got a ton of HP. I've only been able to fight her once legit cuz every time she bugs out on terrain

Fire arrows are trash against her.

Fire arrows just fall off in general after BF

[paper marsh]

Obsidian is best against her. Think fire and poison are second best but which one to pick prob depends on your bow skill

Poison sucks with high bow skill

[strange arrow]

breaking a nail is a legit dragon meltdown moment xD

[frail roost]

3 years and it still isn't fixed 😭😭

[plain bane]

We don't have a fire melee weapon beyond the torch so sadly that wasn't an option either. Aerating her torso with the wolf spear or clocking her in the face with the flesh rippers really is the pro strat

[frail roost]

1000% were getting a fire melee in Ashlands at least

[plain bane]

Poison is obsidian plus a DoT.

[lunar ridge]

"what about Dyrnwyn"

[strange arrow]

the land of Ash and sapped skills

[frail roost]

Enemies are pretty easy in Valheim if you have experience in Soulsborne games, I'm looking forward to the new building pieces in Ashlands the most

[strange arrow]

oh boy yes

[lunar ridge]

Enemies in most games are pretty easy if you've played soulsbourne games lol

[strange arrow]

builders finally get to eat

[frail roost]

True, but Valheim is basically the same mechanics with a fraction of the AI

[plain bane]

Never played a souls game but as much as people compare valheim to it I may yet.

[paper marsh]

Well, technically yes, but stats wise no. Obsidian has about twice the pierce damage of poison

[frail roost]

Mistlands was actually kinda tricky for the first month it was out with the double shot Gjalls and relentless seekers

That was super fun

[lunar ridge]

Not that I would ever do it again, partly because I'm older and my hands don't work the way they used to, but mostly because it sucked, I completed a DS1 no hit run

[plain bane]

Poison has the same amount of poison damage as obsidian has in pierce, plus half of obsidian's pierce. Moder is neutral to both damage types so it comes out on top.

If you consistently land hits anyway. Lack of DoT uptime would probably be a bit wasteful.

[frail roost]

I've beaten ER and NG+ ER as a lvl 1 Wretch. Kinda hard for Valheim to compare to that

[paper marsh]

Yea but poison doesn’t stack, so if you’re shooting fast you lose damage

If you have like 0-20 bow skill poison is fine. But if you have high bow skill it’s not great

[strange arrow]

even with a wisplight we were constantly running up into terrain walls and swimming for our lives all day long xD

[frail roost]

But the building in Valheim is literally the best I've ever seen and still is too this day

[plain bane]

Suppose if I was using root armor I'd bother

[paper marsh]

I wish I experienced the pre nerf mistlands

[strange arrow]

but if you found that fun xD

[paper marsh]

It feels so peaceful now

[lunar ridge]

DS1 on release with blightown lag.... never again. thankfully the remaster fixed that.

[frail roost]

Dude when you heard the sound of a Gjall it was actually terrifying

[lunar ridge]

Yeah day 1 mistlands was pretty fun in a shit-your-pants way

[frail roost]

Now I can rock a fire mead and just wait for him to shoot me to find him

[strange arrow]

still get 6 seekers around the dungeons some of them

[lunar ridge]

here's to hoping Ashlands is overcooked the same way

[plain bane]

I do remember hearing the squawky siren noise followed by a very panicky new zealand accent saying 'might needa bitta help out heyuh'

[strange arrow]

if any starred are in with that it's hard to even get to the dungeon xD

[frail roost]

My biggest gripe was giving the seekers the fuling / grey dwarf dancey dance

I liked that the seekers were relentless and there isn't really a game mode setting to change that

[plain bane]

Given we did not have fire mead at the time...

[strange arrow]

yeh but we don't get the stam for relentless, even with all the buffs

[lunar ridge]

Minding my own damn business catching hares and then bam! outta nowhere 4 whole ass seekers

[frail roost]

Unless you replace the very veins in your blood with tasty meads

[strange arrow]

all about that tasty mead game huh

[frail roost]

I can't stand not having stamina in Valheim lol

[strange arrow]

i hear ya

[lunar ridge]

I want a beer helmet but instead of beer its tasty mead

[frail roost]

3 Stam food, then Mistlands 2 Stam 1 Eitr food

[plain bane]

Ugh. I want mead now. Nearest meadery is like 40 minutes away. Also it's 9pm...

[frail roost]

Don't need HP food if you don't get hit thinking

[lunar ridge]

My Dad is a beekeeper hobbiest and makes his own mead

[plain bane]

lucky

[lunar ridge]

Not really, it's pretty shite lol... but hey it's mead!

[strange arrow]

even doing it as a hobby is a massive service and should be commended

[lunar ridge]

He's about as scottish a man as you could manage to find

Keeps his bees, plays bagpipe, drinks mead and spends whatever else time he's got fishing

[loud valve]

But valheim is about vikings and vikings attacked Scotland

[strange arrow]

and everywhere else

[lunar ridge]

vikings attacked just about everyone, historically lol

[loud valve]

Yea, but Scotland tanked for England for a bit

[lunar ridge]

That's true, hinterlands weren't a fun time for them

[paper marsh]

Gjall was the first mistlands creature I encountered. While sailing in and landing on mistlands

[strange arrow]

i saw one dropping ticks before i heard the blast, but they do like to creep up on you and do it behind you

[frail roost]

In an effort to figure out how to beat pre-nerf Mistlands I tried an ooze bomb and never looked back since. Them things will carry you through the entire biome

And actually give your boar farm a reason to exist

Throw it at your feet and never worry about a tick again, and it's great for soldiers

[plain bane]

They said hi to Canada and left. Seems to be the exception.

[paper marsh]

I hate ooze bombs so much. Think I used them once

[loud valve]

They're great

But won't save you from a gjall's fireballs

[paper marsh]

They’re just too cheesy to me

Same for bows and atgeir

[loud valve]

So, what do you use to fight gjall?

[paper marsh]

Spear

Might make a crossbow but so far I’m just dabbling in mistlands pre-yag

[loud valve]

Finding a thrown spear in mistlands sounds like a nightmare

[paper marsh]

well the idea is to get right under them. Easy throw right up, spear drops back down on you, and gjall can’t shoot you. Very efficient

[loud valve]

Can you harpoon a gjall?

[paper marsh]

Yes

You can harpoon them and make a lil cage for them to use as a tick farm

I wanna try and use axes against Gjall. Although I doubt the damage is worth getting on their back for, considering they don’t have a weak point there

I’ve been wanting to do a skoll and hati build for a while but just could never justify the lack of parrying. However I’m thinking if a hybrid magic build to get shield could be good for dual knife gameplay

[frigid gust]

Why can't you parry with the knives? I mean, maybe not on hard mode, but they should be able to parry in general, they get a decent bonus.

[halcyon thistle]

the speed of attacks normally is enough to stagger if you do consistent damage, dodge rolling and hitting as soon as possible... of course that would require a lot of stamina but it makes up for not blocking

[paper marsh]

Because I’m on Very Hard

Can hardly parry with a shield

[frigid gust]

Oh right. I was thinking you might be talking about talking about another world to experiment with it in

[rain flare]

Shield and knife is dope - can confirm

[frigid gust]

Skol and Hati are a dual-wielded knife set, can't use a shield with them

[midnight olive]

skol and hati would probs be better just dodging

i use them and the lightning polearm with just the fenris armor for the speed boost

[rain flare]

Magic shield boooooooooi! 🤩🤩🤩

You need pretty high block skill and it does NOT work on higher starred seekers, but it’s good

[fallow ermine]

Hello! Any news about the Ashlands?

[lunar sapphire]

Not atm but in due time traveller

https://tenor.com/view/cat-patience-cat-cute-pets-gif-5544229

[flint helm]

got my valheim today heeh

[lunar sapphire]

Welcome to the Viking group

[primal lance]

Congrats

[drowsy magnet]

Make sure to tell someone you just got Valheim. They won't see you for quite some time

Report of missing person: Krug. Hasn't been spotted outside his room for a week.

[opal prairie]

Morning gjall.

[opal prairie]

One of us, one of us.
Now go away and play the game without spoilers and only come back when you are really stuck and need some dire help.
Or not, play how you like.
I enjoyed the experience that I knew nothing before I started playing the game.

[flint helm]

still kinda lost, don't know what to do, thou i don't want to be spoil so i didn't watch any valheim video in YouTube, i just kill random boars haha

[latent wraith]

Listen to the bird, pick up everything, pay attention and don't rush. Just running around killing random things is an excellent way to start. :>

The goal of the game is to gather materials, craft equipment and food and then defeat the boss of each biome, progressing through the biomes. It is however very easy to get distracted along the way. :>

[flint helm]

dang there's other biomes

[opal prairie]

Yes, a couple and there is a progression to them so you need to tackle them in a certain order.

[latent wraith]

You'll quickly notice if you've gone somewhere you're not ready for yet. :p

[rain flare]

Do as the pegster says 🥳

Take your time, enjoy the game.
Discover things for yourself along the way 🥳

[uncut bough]

Fishing with longboat is so finnicky, it takes such a long time to steer the ship while rowing

Sometimes it just refuses to steer, at all

[rain flare]

Yeah longboat is not a fishing boat

[rain flare]

I prefer a karve.
You want to fish just of the shore anyway, so big boat is not worth it

[uncut bough]

I aint rowing to the ocean/ swamp with a karve

[rain flare]

Easy fishing strat:
Drop your line just of the side of your boat - no more than 3-4 meters - then when they catch you real the bad boi in 🤩

[uncut bough]

One has the serpent, and the other is leeches

[uncut bough]

How did u think i caught those pufferfish,

[rain flare]

Build a portal in the area and drop the boat

[uncut bough]

I shorten the line to just 2, sometimes 1 meter

[rain flare]

Ocean obviously doesn’t work 🙈

[uncut bough]

And when it bites it is straight up profit

[rain flare]

But swamp is still manageable in karve 🥰

[uncut bough]

It works, for a while, until pufferfish started getting wise

[rain flare]

Damnit! 😅

[uncut bough]

And also the constant wrong fish biting the bait, making me switch bait, only for that other fish bites the bait, so i switch again

Prolly i will just stockpile a bit of fish and then i stop fishing

[exotic cradle]

You guys fish?

[rain flare]

It’s always an exercise in patience

[rain flare]

Of course.

Do you do the raft strat?

Or just wait for one to jump out at you? 😂

[exotic cradle]

Nope I just built planks next to shore and wait

[rain flare]

LoL 🤣

[exotic cradle]

Lol all you want I got the ||fishing hat|| that way

[uncut bough]

I fish, for higher tier fish

I dont think i can build planks at ocean

[rain flare]

I’m not dissing it’s effectiveness I just don’t think I like it very much 😂

[exotic cradle]

But it's fun! You just spamclick

[rain flare]

You have to find a rock in the ocean somewhere and wait

[exotic cradle]

Depends on which fish, I just found almost all of them near a shore

[rain flare]

Click click click click click! 🤩

[rain flare]

Nice!

Still like fishing in my boat

Especially with Hildir’s gear - feels so cathartic 🥰

Not sure that is the right word 😂

[exotic cradle]

I don't think I've ever fished anything since the revamp

[plush umbra]

What's with all the flowers D:

[latent wraith]

Fishing is so relaxing. :>

[lunar sapphire]

That doesn't answer what's with all the flowers

[latent wraith]

Sure it does. Fishing is relaxing, so you become calm enough for flowers to start growing on you.

[lunar sapphire]

https://tenor.com/view/castle-in-the-sky-castle-in-the-sky-gif-5203634

[exotic cradle]

Ales probably fishes a lot then

[opal prairie]

A developer went kinda nuts.

[plush umbra]

swedish long dark cold winters tend to make you pretty nuts

he probably saw the first sign of spring coming and something just broke loose for him

[rain flare]

Says the lady who has 3 pairs of flowers 😂

[exotic cradle]

2

[rain flare]

I see you’ve pruned them recently 😉

[exotic cradle]

Yeah, i'm moody

[rain flare]

But I like the change of colours
Is bright and perky 🤩🥳

Now if only we could grow flowers in Valheim for decoration…

And no I know that we have onion flowers etc.
I want more flowers 😂

[exotic cradle]

Yeah, would be cute

[lunar sapphire]

Anyone got ideas for a chicken platform? one which allows it to eat?

been playing around with some options, no success yet 😛

[opal prairie]

Roof piece with shutters at the bottom so the food gets funneled to a specific spot, right in front of the chicken.

[lunar sapphire]

definitely an option, trying one more thing before that

[opal prairie]

Idea comes from this at around 5-6 minutes into the video you can see what I mean.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=klQg1f41U3c

[lunar sapphire]

Been looking at that exact video 😄

[opal prairie]

I've tried a few chicken farms and this one is the one I like best, pretty straight forward and tweaking around the small space you actually need is quite easy.

[pure plume]

Swamp is funny. Getting there first time was a nightmare. Cutting my way to sunken crypt was a nightmare. Looting the crypt, calm and relaxing, half the mobs are stuck somewhere so I don't need to worry about them

[rain flare]

Noice! 🥳

[rain flare]

Looting crypts can also be a nightmare - 2 star draugr sniping you as you break through a pile of gunk

Fun times 😅😓😭

[lunar sapphire]

Nope, rewatched the main parts of the video over and over

no comprendo - no worky

[opal prairie]

What about this one, I've tried this one as well, wasn't to my liking as much but is more straight forward: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXURY1Cy_og

[lyric olive]

Any advice before me and my friend begin the plains biome

I got him the full set for the mountain cave set and he loves the movement speed so I am willing to admit I was wrong about it

[lyric olive]

😢

[opal prairie]

Eat the best food that you can.
If you hear buzzing do a dodge roll and then look for the squito.
Giggling spells trouble be wary.

[lyric olive]

What do the big brown creature do? I saw it when we pasted by. Is it dangerous or passive?

Thanks

[timber sky]

hi.

[rain flare]

It is NOT passive

Just blind as a bat.
Their aggro radius is smaller than other mobs.

But keep in mind it’s smaller, not non existent

[opal prairie]

Dangerous but slow, they have loads of health and pack a punch but they are slow, you can tame them if you want throw cloudberries near them and keep them in your sight but don't spook them.

You can easily kite them around a piece of rock, just find something that hinders them from coming straight to you, plink with bow till they get close, move again around the rock, rinse and repeat.
You can also handle them melee but that requires you to learn their attack pattern and when to move or dodge roll accordingly.

[opal prairie]

Hello, we haven't forgotten about you.

[haughty tinsel]

how do you get a wolf head ? i've killed many of non-star wolfs and no one of them drop a trophy

[opal prairie]

Keep on doing that.
Has about 10% drop rate.

[rain flare]

How do people struggle to get wolf heads? 😂

Stupid game drops one every 2-3 wolves for me 😭😭😭

I don’t want so many wolf heads!!! 🤣

[opal prairie]

Obliterate them!

[frigid gust]

Hang them all on the wall

[torpid mango]

I keep getting these stupid deathsquito trophy

[vocal rivet]

RNG

[timber sky]

Yet

[exotic cradle]

That's very 2006

[half dragon]

I had 2 corpse piles in a single room... and for some reason game decided it's exclusively going to spawn only archers. That was very annoying until it spawned 2x 2 stars and a 1 star archer 💀

[opal prairie]

It went from annoying to fuck get away.

[near furnace]

👀

[half dragon]

had fun trying to retrieve my gear. first shot from a 2 star staggered me and rest the other archers helped me to the afterlife

[near furnace]

you probably should chill a bit 😅

[exotic cradle]

Hope not, otherwise you wouldn't be here

[near furnace]

hope your not 10 🤔

[timber sky]

😂

Trolling, bored rn, don't worry im over 18

[near furnace]

--> #rules-and-info

about trolling, rollplaying etc etc

[timber sky]

Who reads rules these days

[lean hull]

Someone's gonna report you my b

[exotic cradle]

..what are you doing

[timber sky]

im a real badman

[lean hull]

Better delete this message before it's too late

[torpid mango]

I don't think discord even cares about reports tbh

[near furnace]

they do

[lean hull]

Nope they do

[torpid mango]

Then it's some kind of miracle that my friend isn't banned yet

[lean hull]

One of my friends got baited and banned
Twice for the same stupid thing

[near furnace]

it's very easy to get the account removed

[timber sky]

My main account (this one) was banned cuz i got 1 hater sending false reports with his alt accounts, glad that discord moderators did something about that

Prob random 12yo mans doing this to everyone for no reason

[torpid mango]

I did the same on a guy that said he was 11 because tbh I hated him and nothing

[timber sky]

discord checked reports on me, there was like 20+ reports in 30 minutes

same hour

[torpid mango]

I did 20 in 5 min 💀

[timber sky]

cool

[torpid mango]

Anyways I never had a case of them checking reports so idk

I guess they sometimes do

[timber sky]

i got every report lmao

literally for nothing, kinda funny that ppl doing this frl, gotta be pathetic human being

[exotic cradle]

Yikes on bikes

[timber sky]

valheim 1x1 when

[opal prairie]

I missed some drama it seems.

[exotic cradle]

No drama, one person being dramatic

[timber sky]

there's no drama in here

[lyric olive]

Do they have stars?

[amber flicker]

you dont get axe skill from using battleaxe?

[uncut bough]

what happened, why are there so many deleted messages

[paper marsh]

You do

[exotic cradle]

What?

[paper marsh]

A bit slower tho bc battle axe has a slower attack speed

[uncut bough]

you do

[uncut bough]

idk i am asking, how do i know

did someone get banned here?

[opal prairie]

Lox never have stars.

[opal prairie]

Drama queen or king?

[uncut bough]

bruh somehow a bat was at my base, i was having no bat raids before

i was taming my boar, and then suddenly the boar all went alert, i was confused because it shouldn't fear me, and then a bat came and killed 1 boar

[vapid jackal]

Did the server get hacked again?

[torpid mango]

Bat raids are the most annoying raid ever and I hope every single bat in valheim dies

[uncut bough]

true

[vapid jackal]

Lfg has vanished

[uncut bough]

they are like, discounted mosquito, but they come in pack and kill ur livestock

[opal prairie]

Did you have a bat raid a while ago? They can be sneaky like that and when you leave render distance and come back later they might reappear.

[uncut bough]

i mean if there is mosquito raid ( devs, don't get any idea from this), then it will still kill

[uncut bough]

it was like 20 in game days ago, back then i was keeping 0 star boar

[opal prairie]

#1024264966712340510 still there.

[toxic rose]

I see some posts 2 day ago, so looks good

[uncut bough]

and the boar fully de-aggroed too, this time i changed it with 1 star boar already

[opal prairie]

Had a raid since then?

[uncut bough]

nope

[vapid jackal]

Maybe I need to get more roles again

[uncut bough]

no wonder when i return to house i found a lot of meat and leather on the floor

[opal prairie]

it will be a left over bat from that raid probably, having trouble pathfinding and solved it.

[uncut bough]

well at least it didn't kill all the boars, i still possess these 1 star boar

[opal prairie]

Maybe pressed the little arrow in front of the channel so it collapsed?

[vapid jackal]

No

I guess the hack reset roles

[uncut bough]

in any cases, they are annoying as hell

maybe i will start building a new base nearby

[devout jolt]

Scroll up the channel list, then click on Channel & Roles under the logo. It's some ridiculous Discord feature it hides channels that weren't hidden before

[opal prairie]

Indubitably!

[uncut bough]

i hope when i bring the wolf over to my side, it will guard against the bats

now i have a problem of either going up the mountain i found nearby my mainbase , near Meadows

and get the 2 star wolf , or i can sail the 1 star wolf in another area

[opal prairie]

Up to a point, if they can get a bit in it kills the bat but the bat frequently can swoop in do some damage to the wolf and keep on doing that till the wolf is dead.
Best defense against bats is having a pair of backup wolves / boars, hidden in a pit with a floor over.
If you don't want to do that build a closed shack that has the boars / wolves in.

[lyric olive]

When combating the lox can I use my sword and shield

[uncut bough]

you can do basically anything, only that it might not be effective

[lyric olive]

I'm asking if I'm going to die doing it.

[uncut bough]

you can parry it, but if you miss the parry time, it turns you to pink mist

[lyric olive]

I have the serpent shield and silver sword

[uncut bough]

blocking is, idk, questionable at least, it does reduce dmg but the dmg you take still hurts

i thought serpent shield can't parry, because it is a tower shield

[lyric olive]

I'm not going to try and parry

[uncut bough]

well then prepare to lose a tons of health

its stats is same with silver shield

[opal prairie]

You can, dangerous though, you'll need to learn the attack pattern.

[snow talon]

if you walk around him it will keep turning, so you can regen some stam

[opal prairie]

This is true, they are slow, use that to your advantage.

[olive creek]

Im looking to start a new playthrough with some friends and we are looking for some QOL mods using thunderstore. Any suggestions?

[paper marsh]

You should ask in #mods-discussion . Most ppl here prob don’t use mobs

That said I hear backpack mods and separate slots for armor are popular

[rain flare]

The number of people who say this…
If you don’t read the rules and you get shot / banned that is your own fault 🙄😓

[timber sky]

rate my discord profile 0-10

[teal python]

I rate it: Neck.

[timber sky]

necker?

[teal python]

Like the lizard thing

[olive creek]

Thank you, I didnt see that channel all the way at the bottom

[timber sky]

true

btw are you frl 51yo?

[teal python]

I will be 52 in October

[grizzled wing]

I see a lot of the older generation playing valheim, must be something about it

[timber sky]

Damn, kinda crazy to see older gen in discord

[exotic cradle]

Not like yall invented stuff like discord

[teal python]

I’ve been playing computer games since I was a kid and see no reason to stop.

[timber sky]

i mean, there's better things in life than just computer games

[exotic cradle]

Yup, discord is just an alternative to TS and vent

[sudden wedge]

seems like a lie

[exotic cradle]

So you think people just play games in here?

[timber sky]

No.

[exotic cradle]

I'm being your gf for the day, it's what you asked for

[timber sky]

Oh

[teal python]

Obviously there is more to my life than computer games, but it remains my favorite hobby.

[exotic cradle]

I can and I will

Anyway, Valheim chat, not offtopic

[paper marsh]

Don't get in a relationship if you're not ready for it

[timber sky]

i was born ready for everything

[paper marsh]

Even... Commitment?

[timber sky]

everything means everything

[hollow stratus]

i have a sick burn and it's taking every cell in my body to not light it back to lurking

[timber sky]

ngl i like life topics, we should move to #general

[paper marsh]

Do you guys think Odin dropped other vikings into the world of Valheim before us, and they just failed miserably?

[snow talon]

who says im not failing?

[teal python]

Yes. They left notes on rune stones.

I built a hut on top of Astrid’s rune stone once.

[timber sky]

i might use dev cmds to get my stuff back, but man i don't want to open Valheim

[paper marsh]

How can they fail if they get ressurected every time they die? Or is that a special thing for us because Odin likes us better

[teal python]

Maybe they moved on to different worlds.

That’s what I sometimes do.

[paper marsh]

Maybe they were successful and thus moved on. But when a new problem arises a new viking gets sent in

[teal python]

If I lose all my stuff and can’t get it back, I pack up my queen bees and move to a new world.

[paper marsh]

I've never tried moving to a new world

[teal python]

You can play on multiple worlds with the same viking.

[final lily]

I think Odin frowns on that kind of thing, tbh

[half dragon]

^ I usually make a 2nd world for gathering resources such as wood and stone. Don't want to ruin the looks of my main world with cutting down everything that doesn't move

[opal prairie]

I'll turn 40 in June.

[opal prairie]

Same here.

I go for a bike ride everyday, 12 km in about 28 minutes.

[teal python]

I explained to my nephew that growing up doesn’t mean you have to stop playing games. It just means you have a job so you can afford more of them, but have less time to actually play them.

[opal prairie]

Yes, you can see remnants of the things they build and did.

[opal prairie]

Apt description and when you then throw kids in the mix, pfffff.

[teal python]

They built all those huts where I find my bee friends.

I don’t have children, just a nephew who visits sometimes, and an aunt who lives with me and I help her with stuff. She’s the reason I never play multiplayer. She interrupts me too frequently for me to play anything I can’t pause.

I’ll be in the middle of a boss fight and she’ll need help with something.

[vocal rivet]

As per the in-game lore, eventually they lose the will to be ressurected and die for good.

Also, wow, I missed some fun earlier.

[light moat]

They go hollow 🥲

[opal prairie]

Should we get Bleach?

[vocal rivet]

The anime?

[opal prairie]

There are some knowledgeable people in there if it is about hollows.

[half dragon]

longboatful of iron scrap coming home

but somehow I doubt that's going to be my last voyage to that swamp...

[azure yacht]

John Bleach (an important character)

[lusty crescent]

Howard Bleach

(Not as important)

[frigid gust]

Hype Ochlorite

[half dragon]

think it's time for me to go clean up some spooky scary skeleton dungeons for more cores... I'm not melting 540 iron scrap with just 2 lol...

[half flax]

Son and I are about to embark on the same journey in our game.

[half dragon]

It's definitely one of the most memorable parts of the game for me. Was on my first world and still is on this one.

the danger is great, but so is the loot

[paper marsh]

I’d go as far as to at that swamp is the most dangerous biome, but also has the best loot

[half flax]

I love portals, but something about taking a ship to gather coming back to main island and loading carts to drag 1/2 way across to home base…😂

[opal prairie]

It is a big step up from black forest.

[half flax]

All in your prep work

[paper marsh]

It’s also just that swamp gives some nice end game items (current endgame at least) too. Like root chest piece destroys plains and mistlands. Huntsman bow destroys fuling villages. Ooze bombs cheese the hell out of everything

[half dragon]

the swamp I found is enormous. Had to leave almost full stack behind, filled a longship with iron and still carried a stack of iron in my hands... yet the swamp seems to be going and going for even longer. no end in sight

[regal spoke]

Swamp feels rough coming from black forest. But biome 6 is an easy choice for hardest biome imo

[fair cairn]

biome 6? mistlands? why cant you just say mistlands like a normal person?

[frigid gust]

Biome 6 is the hardest, but people often use a mix of biome 3 and 4 gear to manage it...

Sometimes the numerical order can give some scale 😛

[paper marsh]

Biome 6 is second hardest for me. My number 1 death cause is ranged enemies coming out of nowhere all the time (cough cough draugr). Biome 6 doesn’t have much ranged danger

[exotic cradle]

Biome 3 is worst.

[frigid gust]

I like them all.

[half dragon]

The only good thing about the swamp is that if you keep killing all the skllies and draugr, you're left with only leeches in the water and basically nothing to attack you. But going to new areas is like a whole ass invasion event... except you're the one invading

[opal prairie]

I like them all but I find swamp to be the worst and I like the mistlands.

[rain flare]

You lose the will to resurrect.
It’s part of the lore

[frigid gust]

If we go by my "deaths to enemies in a biome", the Mistlands is the hardest for sure. The swamps aren't hard if you are methodical and walk instead of run, they also have a neat atmosphere, especially if you build a base there

[half flax]

Meadows and Black Forest are easy. Swamp is not bad if you tread carefully. Plains Deathsquitos are not fun.

[exotic cradle]

The actual only good thing about the biome 3 is cute wraith trophies.

[rain flare]

Agreed!!!
Mistlands = 10/10
Swamp = 2/10

[half dragon]

fire geysers are REALLY great in the swamp as well. But it would be nice if I could find even one...

[regal spoke]

On normal difficulty I personally don't have much trouble in swamp. Especially after root chest

[opal prairie]

Unless you have the root harnkesk then they become quite easy.

[half flax]

Yes

[half dragon]

in my previous world I found a swamp with about 10 geysers and they were relatively close to each other, so I made a running track between them, leveled the ground to water level so I can just run between them and grab a lot of coal and cores

[frigid gust]

I don't build heavy armor until the Mountains, just because the wolf set is so much faster to get than the fenris set, and it looks awesome.

[rain flare]

Having difficulty and wanting to live there are two different things

[half flax]

Have to mix and match items to biomes to make them easier.

[opal prairie]

Sweet!

[rain flare]

I can live happily in every biome in Valheim.
Except swamp.
Swamp SUCKS!!! 😂

[opal prairie]

Its all those leeches.

[frigid gust]

My swamp bases always have that "chill out inside on a rainy day" vibe to them. I like it. The worst part is that the only things you can grow there are turnips, so there's no use building a farm or anything.

[regal spoke]

Wolf set is my favorite. Looks great. Just can't bring myself to rock gear that, hinders movement speed.

[half dragon]

I think swamp was made to suck, it's all part of the design 😂

[half flax]

Geysers are cool. Excavate around them for easy use

[frigid gust]

Yeah, mostly just for boss fights

[regal spoke]

Absolutely get that

[rain flare]

It succeeded.

[frigid gust]

You can excavate directly under them. You can't extinguish them. I dig a death pit for the surtlings they can't climb out of, it becomes just a bowl of coal and cores 😛

[ember panther]

I've never made a dedicated swamp base, always just built outside of it

[half dragon]

Same... I never build there. Too many archers bulli your base

[ember panther]

Not enough stone around either

[half dragon]

and doesn't look too great... a lot of rain too

[frigid gust]

I generally make at least one, my first one. Set up a forge and some basics so I can smelt iron and make a longboat instead of hauling the first load back in a karve. But sometimes it's just in a nice location and I can make it more substantial... best place in the game for tree houses ever since they got rid of the old Mistlands 😛

[half dragon]

basically UK

without the not looking great part...

But I've been thinking, would it be viable to build up in the trees a safe heaven? Or a depressing miserable safe place

[regal spoke]

If I build in the swamp it's always a tree house

[opal prairie]

Give it a stay indoors because it's raining outside vibe.

[frigid gust]

I made a tree house in my latest playthrough. Two floors, like 12 comfort, hearth and everything, fully upgraded crafting so I could make all my iron gear there. It was pretty nice, right by Bonemass.

[paper marsh]

I like the wolf cape

[teal python]

I just find a swamp next to a less awful biome and build next to it.

[regal spoke]

Wolf over lox cape for sure

[half dragon]

the best part of sleeping in the swamp is that you can put a portal on top of crypts, go somewhere nice and sleep there instead 😂

[paper marsh]

Hmmm after bonemass I prefer speed over armor in all the boss fights. Those bosses hit H A R D, b it most their attacks can be easily outrun with a bit of movement speed

[half dragon]

I found out that not even abomination can damage stuff on top of crypts

[regal spoke]

Current seed is bf next to swamp. So our tree house is right on the edge

[paper marsh]

My current base is no portals and so far from meadows and it’s been rough to get meadows items. Luckily I’m finally progressing out of needing meadows stuff

[regal spoke]

A really decent lean to can be made on top of crypts.

[half dragon]

no need for meadows stuff? no boar meat, no deer meat/leather? no berries/flowers for mead?

[frigid gust]

Swamp tree house (could have put it up higher, but...) https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3094162718

[paper marsh]

I still need the workbench upgrades with flint and deer hide but I got those. Mistlands resources will soon take over healing meads (except those might still need daisies? Not sure). Mistlands and plains and mountain food can get me through without sausages, I’ll set up some nice farms

[light moat]

You can get flint and deer hide from the plains, yeah?

[paper marsh]

No?

[half dragon]

but... but muh sausages. premium sausages, totally not smelly or sus

[paper marsh]

Oh I guess yea

[light moat]

Try destroying those villages, they drop a lot of mats

[paper marsh]

But I don’t like wrecking villages, they look nice and can’t be rebuilt

[light moat]

Fair enough 😂

[paper marsh]

I have a village right next to my base

[half dragon]

I don't like the villages. I always find them and remove them from the map ruining my view

well mostly for the black metal but...

[light moat]

Sometime the Fulings destroy them (partially) for me

[paper marsh]

Anyways consumable items are the real concern. Like daisies berries and boat meat

[frigid gust]

One of my favorite bases was built on an old Fuling village, I have my throne on top of the stair pedestal they had in the middle of the village

[light moat]

Dandelions are also in the villages, not entirely sure they regrow, but I don’t see why they wouldn’t

[paper marsh]

I don’t think destroying villages gives black metal. Just the inhabitants

[frigid gust]

It might be in the chests? I can't remember for sure

[half dragon]

I know. removing the village is just part of my eviction process

I found really nice spot to build my main base (in my first save)... but there was a village. no trace of that village left there.

in fact the whole area ended up looking unrecognizable

[ember panther]

I enjoy demolishing their villages, especially the towers, with a sledgehammer

[half dragon]

it is satisfying to start that chain reaction. Even more fun to do it to those stone towers to get some stone

pickaxe is sufficient for those

[lyric olive]

Hey lads, easiest way to get wolf pelt? 🐺

[ember panther]

The giant stone spires are good base foundation tho

[hidden ibex]

murder

[ember panther]

Kill wolves?

[half dragon]

tame them, and then murderize

[lyric olive]

Okay guess I need to be specific for the edgy people, does taming get more than finding them

[hidden ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-doom-guy-isabelle-rip-and-tear-video-game-gif-16716710

aw no gifs

[frigid gust]

I chose to be the goblin king: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3046360386

[hidden ibex]

if you get 2 star wolfs and tame with other 2 or 1 stars it's certainly better

[half dragon]

obviously you're going to get more of them on the long term, but getting that wolf farm is a lot of pain and probably takes longer than just hunting them the normal way, if you only want them for gear and nothing else

[ember panther]

Ehhh, in the long run I guess. Taming just takes so long. No shortage of wild wolves you can snipe

[paper marsh]

No but it’s safer. They have the same drop rate and can be bred

[half flax]

If normal difficulty is to hard you could tweak it

[half dragon]

I'd make a wolf farm for wolf meat though. I'm planning to make a massive food storage with stacks of all kinds of food there that I'll probably never eat but looks great in the chest

[half dragon]

now just need to tame goblins and start a goblin kingdom

[ember panther]

Tamed wolves are pretty dang strong too. I like bringing my lil buddy on adventures but it makes me sad when they die 😢

Usually poison gets them

[half dragon]

poison is a lot of pain in the ass. which is why I'm so glad I got my hands on root mask

[light moat]

Yep, there black metal in the chests as well.

[half dragon]

it made fighting oozers and blobs so much more manageable

[grave wagon]

It takes a little bit of time but it's not terrible. Dig a hole, lure the wolf into the hole, profit.

[frigid gust]

Fun fact: poison is also attenuated by your total amount of armor. It's kinda weird like that.

[teal python]

I enjoy hunting more than taming

[regal spoke]

Another obscure fact i was not aware of

[frigid gust]

I keep a small batch of two-star boars in case I ever need leather scraps in a pinch, but I generally agree. No choice with chickens, though 😛

[half dragon]

oh right... haven't got chickens yet. you do get feathers from them right? so no need to hunt for seaguls and crows

[paper marsh]

I never fully understood how poison resist works

Seems like it both reduces the damage and duration of poison

[half dragon]

oh hens are great. I went to wiki to check what they eat and you can just throw all the extra seeds at them? nice

[paper marsh]

I wonder if they’ll eat… ancient seeds

[ember panther]

Yep, those beech seeds finally become useful

I don't think they eat ancient seeds, or bukeperries, unfortunately...

[light moat]

Only ancient chickens will eat ancient seeds ||kidding||

[ember panther]

Ooo ancient chickens. Ashlands tamable hell hens?

[half dragon]

beech seeds are useful though... just make a relatively flat area and plant them as close to each other as possible, then cut down a few and watch the dominoes fall

quick and easy wood for building projects

[frigid gust]

Sooooo many feathers...

[ember panther]

I've never needed more beeches

Birch n pine give reg wood too

[frigid gust]

Chickens eat dandelions, beech seeds, barley, and any vegetable seeds. I don't remember if they eat flax or not.

Beech is good for a general wood farm, or for making living fences

[ember panther]

Pre sure they eat pinecones too

[half dragon]

living fence?

[ember panther]

A fence that is alive

[frigid gust]

Not according to the wiki. They will eat birch seeds as well, though.

[rich ice]

I tried feeding pinecones to mine. They looked at me like I was crazy, then pushed me through a portal while I was distracted.

[frigid gust]

Trees planted as close together as you can manage and trolls can't walk through them, and won't break them down since they don't see them as obstacles like they do your built structures. It can also block other enemies, and slow down their pathing.

[half dragon]

oh like that

I kind of prefer unliving and unmoving fence, AKA terrainforming

lower the ground there, raise it a bit here ect. ect.

[fallen zephyr]

Build your chicken coop over an area that grows dandelions; never worry about chicken food again.

[frigid gust]

They won't eat them just as they grow, though... you have to pick them. But I've got gobs of food for them anyway, I kinda like farming and I cut down lots of trees 😛

[fallen zephyr]

(That was general advice, just using the reply as context).

[lunar ridge]

Wish the AI was smart enough to eat the dandelions without having to pick them up tbh, would be cool.

[fallen zephyr]

No, no... but pluck them, chuck them and reap the harvest!

[frigid gust]

Wolves in the Meadows/Black Forest are the only self-feeding tames you can really have

[fallen zephyr]

It's a shame that game progression allows you to outgrow animal farms.

Except chickens

Where's the wild chickens?!

[frigid gust]

Those will probably happen the same way eventually, honey chicken won't be enough for the final Ashlands progression 😛

[silver pagoda]

guys i just got the game

i rlly wanna find a person to play it with, anybodi interested? :3

[vocal rivet]

So it doesn't?

[frigid gust]

Congrats! You should leave here and go explore without spoilers 😉 You can find groups in #1024264966712340510 , but it's also completely playable solo.

[silver pagoda]

i know that it is, its just i get bored rlly fast playing games alone and i wanted to find some company. Thanks for help

[frigid gust]

Ok. Just to set expectations, Valheim is designed for co-op play with people you know and trust. There is little to no hacking/exploit prevention in it, so choose who you play with carefully.

[fallen zephyr]

I played with @frigid gust once, and they stole my wallet and used my credit card to donate $1,000 to some animal charity. 🙄 (Edit: That story suffers from a terminological inexactitude).

[lunar ridge]

"spawn sledgecheat" "hey where's your base again?"

[ember panther]

"How do you make the obliterater?"

[fallen zephyr]

"Why is your character not wearing pants?"

[frigid gust]

Because I like my in-game character to match my personal style, thank you very much

[fallen zephyr]

Skirt? Knickerbockers? Kilt?

[frigid gust]

I work from home. None of the above 😛

[fallen zephyr]

I work from home too! "The commute is moot!"✊

[frigid gust]

Gives me time to play bus driver to all the kids... just too far to walk to school, just too close to have bus service

[paper marsh]

have thou considered: Bicycles?

[frigid gust]

Yeah. Once there's a lower chance of it snowing that'll be their ride 😉 One kid also has a broken wrist so can't really ride right now

[paper marsh]

I miss biking to school. Felt so much better than driving

[fallen zephyr]

You drove to school?

[paper marsh]

I do now

[fallen zephyr]

High school was over for me by the time I was old enough to drive

[frigid gust]

This does seem more appropriate for #general , come to think of it...

[paper marsh]

I miss portalling to my base. sailing and run takes a while

[fallen zephyr]

The line blurs more every time I visit this server 😛

[half dragon]

Anyone got a trick for making nice looking slopes with da hoe?

[grizzled wing]

Try the alternate placement mode

[paper marsh]

trying to stand at the middle of a slopey arrow when hoeing, to hope it connects nicely. But no perfect way

Hoe always tries to level ground to where you're standing

[half dragon]

alternate placement mode works with hoe too?

[lyric olive]

Hold shift and it will make it based on the spot you point on and not where you're standing

[ember panther]

Hold shift, work your way down, pickaxe stubborn lumpy spots and flatten from a higher point

[paper marsh]

Hmm I didn’t even know that

[half dragon]

I'll try that. been flattening from down to up

seems to be working better

I mean the alternate mode. but will have to do more testing to decide whether to continue down to up, or up to down

[ember panther]

I find going down works much better, then balancing it out in a flatter area

[frigid gust]

Shift flattens the area to where you're aiming, otherwise it tries to flatten it to the level you're standing at. But there's no real good slope tool overall.

[grizzled wing]

It takes the altitude you're standing on and the altitude you're aiming at and tries to average them

[half dragon]

hmm... would be nice if they could add a slope option. Rather than trying to flatten the area, even out shapes so there's as little bumps as possible

[grizzled wing]

Alt function on the hoe does it

It's a little messy, but it's better than the other options

[half dragon]

not exactly... it's working better but not as good as it could

to make really nice slopes would need a completely different method

[ember forum]

I get some small updates for the game. They are like 29.2KB, do any one of you know what they are ?

Ah found it https://steamcommunity.com/app/892970/discussions/0/3112542578507166899/

[pure blaze]

do I get it correctly that the whole fishing business is not worth messing with due to its being half-baked at this point?

[paper marsh]

Not super important no. Fish can be pretty good for Plains food, and a bit for Mistlands food too, but you might be able to also just grab stranded fish on land instead of going fishing

[pure blaze]

that's what made me make this post. I was just trying to hunt some stranded fish during a storm but I fail to figure out the pattern of the stranding mechanics. At this point I can't find any fish, but sometimes my harvest is rather generous.

[ember panther]

I want to fish but whenever I attempt to, there aren't any fish

[teal python]

I enjoy fishing for the fun of it

[ember panther]

Much like real life

[paper marsh]

I got weirdly lucky with my base location. There's constantly fish stranding on the shore because wave mechanics here are very large

[teal python]

I walk along the coast and look for places where fish are swimming and mark the places

When I want to fish I go to those places

[paper marsh]

Stranding is kinda random. Although there are people who make little structures or just place boats in the ocean for fish to strand on. Could look some up if you really care but fish are by no means needed to progress. Just a decent option for health food in plains and I think stamina food in mistilands

[loud valve]

One of the best food is fishing exclusive, but the effort for it isn't quite worth the bonus imo

[topaz agate]

when will the ashes be thrown out for the test

[paper marsh]

within the next 3.5 months

that's all we know

[light moat]

It’s getting close though my friend, March is almost over 🙂 it’ll be here soon enough

[frigid gust]

There's a PTB with some very significant changes out right now, including a Unity upgrade and a lot of other fixes. Busy working through some minor issues with it, but it's the groundwork for enabling proper Ashlands support. It's definitely in progress, it just takes time to make sure everything is right.

[lunar ridge]

I'd much rather take an extended wait and let IG cook.

[sinful forum]

While the recent hacker troll action there were so many notifications. Thought boom, ashlands release, people are going totally crazy. Well, I was obviously wrong 🙂

[paper marsh]

lol

I hope it's not before June. I got a lot of stuff going on until then

[uncut bough]

Devs be watching this and put it at 30th June

[paper marsh]

nice

[uncut bough]

Nice

[paper marsh]

Awesome, even

[uncut bough]

Terrific, i must argue

[paper marsh]

well I'm okay with the PTB being earlier, but just the full update anytime in June sounds good

[uncut bough]

Scrumdiddidly dumptious

[paper marsh]

Perfect

[uncut bough]

Splendid,

I now find myself drinking tea and speaking with bri’ish accent

[regal spoke]

It'll be all the crack

[plush umbra]

Just to confirm. Brenna has a CHANCE to spawn during the surtling event and it's not 100%?

[half dragon]

maxed out root armor good enough to get started in mountains?

[plush umbra]

I know she has her own event

[azure yacht]

Nope

[frigid gust]

It is for me. Wolves and such can hit pretty hard, if you're good at combat and dodging or blocking you should be fine, though.

[halcyon blade]

Just make sure you fight on even ground. If they are even a little bit above or below you your attacks will miss but theirs will still hit.

[half dragon]

oh shit... I just realized already spent almost all 570 iron I brought from that last expedition to the swamp. Well I'm not going to go for iron armor then lol

I only upgraded my weapons, bruh...

and crafted some... but bruh

[rustic schooner]

sad

that's draugr capitalism for you

[frigid gust]

Valheim weapons and such are expensive up front because they don't cost resources to repair like in many other games.

[half dragon]

instead you max them out and barely use at all most them and then proceed to craft next tier of weapons, probably wouldn't have ever had to repair most of the weapons anyway

oh well, at least that battleaxe is ready to hunt some abominations

[paper marsh]

I’d say it’s rarely needed to upgrade your weapons. But it depends on skill and difficulty

Upgrades aren’t that drastic a change to me for the resource investment

[half dragon]

it's needed because maxed weapons are pog

and big number good

[frigid gust]

Biggest benefit is increased durability, but even level 2 is usually enough for that

[mint shadow]

anyone know if there is a way to watch valheim at the GDC (like a stream or video)

[paper marsh]

Maybe just make cheaper or versatile weapons? Spears tend to be pretty cheap, and axes can function for both woodcutting and combat. An atgeir can both parry and attack

[paper marsh]

I find durability is a fairly useless stat if playing with portals

[half dragon]

durability is great for preserving sanity

nothing more annoying than constantly exiting a crypt to repair when you could have kept going

[loud valve]

Durability only matters on pickaxe

[half dragon]

and axe... runs out of durability very quickly even when maxed out when cutting a lot of trees

well not "very" quickly, but still pretty quickly

[loud valve]

I just don't cut that many trees I guess. Elder power also exists

[half dragon]

gotta cut a lot of trees if you're smelting a lot of metal

[loud valve]

You can farm coal quite easily if you play with portals

[errant girder]

if you have access (swamp for instance) you can kill surtlings for coal, if you haven't tried that yet

[ember panther]

I get a tonne if surtling raids since defeating the elder

[half dragon]

well haven't because none of the swamps have those, not the ones I've found

[paper marsh]

I feel my weight becomes a problem before axe durability

[errant girder]

keep looking lots of swamps have them. you can even set up a coal farm by digging a trench around the flame geyser they spawn at. water kills them for you

[half dragon]

not when the wood is going straight to the furnace

[loud valve]

Even if you are burning wood for coal, you can get 100 wood for it quite quickly

[half dragon]

well I needed 1100 just while ago...

[paper marsh]

I suppose so. I’ve never tried setting up smelting stuff by my woodcutting operation, always put it in my base

[loud valve]

I honestly feel like you can get that with like 2 elder power procs at most

[half dragon]

if I had a proper tree farm, for sure. But when there's no proper tree farm and have to constantly move varying distance between those trees, doubt 2 is enough. not when you have to haul it back and forth a lot. Well unless you just don't pick them up until later when it has ran out... do they not start despawning when you've got hundreds of items on the ground?

[loud valve]

They bundle into 1 drop is my experience

[paper marsh]

Wood drops on the ground will respawn (after a while). Logs that lie on the ground unchopped will stay tho

[loud valve]

I'd also just craft a chest nearby to temporarily store them if I'm worried

[loud valve]

I think he meant the wood you can't pick up due to weight/inventory limits

[half dragon]

usually I just stop chopping and haul the wood when out of space. mostly to be extra careful that it doesn't get despawned

not entirely sure how the despawning mechanics work, all I know is that if you leave it there for long enough it will disappear

[loud valve]

Why not just craft a chest in the area so you don't need to leave while collecting?

[paper marsh]

That’s why I just cut down all the trees but don’t break the logs when my inventory is full

[loud valve]

My experience when I do this is large patches of drops pool into 1 stack on the ground

[half dragon]

storing it in the chest usually doesn't make any sense since you'll have to pick it up and haul to where ever you want it to be anyway... unless for some reason in a hurry

[loud valve]

You maximize the time you have elder power on to chop wood

You can also use a cart to store so you can only make 1 trip back to base

You can put a portal near the chest so you can just walk in encumbered

[paper marsh]

Biggest part of wood chopping for me recently had been transporting the wood because I’m doing no portals

A ship can’t hold much

[half dragon]

ngl, very tempted to just make the good old tree farm. Flat ground in a large area with nothing to block them from growing and kilns nearby to burn them. But guess can skip the kiln part if I only found some fire geysers

speeds up the cutting process a lot when they just keep colliding with each other

[loud valve]

You can make a tiered level tree farm and just roll the logs down

[half dragon]

stumps tho

[loud valve]

Minor hassle that you'll get with any other way to get wood

Unless you only pick up branches

[half dragon]

also on a slope axe tends to hit the ground more often and apply penalty

[loud valve]

It doesn't need to be a slope. You have stairs essentially

[half dragon]

oh like that. guess that could work. But I did just remember the perfect area to make a tree farm. found a meadow close to a massive swamp, but it's mostly tiny hills open area. Just need to remove the rocks and flatten it a bit and it's good to go

[frigid gust]

A hill is the best tree farm. Cut at the top, they all roll down and chop themselves 😛

[loud valve]

The only real things that limit you are willingness and creativity

[half dragon]

for me they just keep bumping into random shit and not cut themselves for me. had far more success with relatively flat ground where they get bunched up lying on top of each other

[regal spoke]

I created a terraced tree farm the other day

[frigid gust]

Soon as the tree is cut down I hit it with a secondary axe attack, that usually cuts it into two logs and then they chop themselves half the time. Works for everything except the Yggdrasil trees and oak in my experience

[half dragon]

oh and another idea to try at some point... battleaxe wood chopping. Seemed to cut birch trees just fine.

hits multiple objects without pentalty and wider range

[frigid gust]

I like the crystal axe for that too

[paper marsh]

Or kill greydwarves

[loud valve]

Greydwarf farm so you can farm eyes at the same time

[polar zephyr]

is there a bug in the beta version of valheim?

[ember panther]

Seekers

[polar zephyr]

I've been through 20 frost caves and all are very similiar and I've found 0 cultists

[half dragon]

usually not a problem... every time I do anything in dark forest like forage they come to litter my inventory with their eyes lol