#Esocatalyst - Showcase & Discussion

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zenith kernel
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Esocatayst consists of my random ideas, may add a proper progression and campaign later. Sortta inspired by NH, not as much as of recently. Featuring The Lycor Legions and their fleets.

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these are a couple units I have made for the mod and I have more planned. Yet again these are just my ideas. If you have any suggestions for units feel free to give me them

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Preview of a unit I have cooking up now. Might take a while

zenith kernel
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Second preview. I know it doesnt look like much but it'll be better I promise

subtle tulip
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soviet anthem intensifies

zenith kernel
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Later

subtle tulip
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:<

zenith kernel
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I'll add twilight then illitch. Cuz I have't actually sprited illitch yet😏

subtle tulip
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ok

south rose
zenith kernel
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The modified turret you gave to me for free👀

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When the full unit is done I will send a screenshot of it ingame in all its glory

south rose
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okay

round acorn
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like erekir spooder

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so its a flying big face with a funy shield and funny artillery

zenith kernel
round acorn
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yay

zenith kernel
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I have completed the unit. Now I need to sprite the cell, shield and code everything

zenith kernel
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Twilight is complete.

south rose
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gud

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dang

zenith kernel
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I need to finish code then I'll show you its missile bombardment

subtle tulip
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👍

zenith kernel
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Who wants to be bombarded

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There is a slight visual issue with the missile shoot effect not showing above the unit but I assume if I set a low alltitude field that will fix

zenith kernel
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It is fixed

subtle tulip
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also in your missile's flares

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invert color1 and color2

zenith kernel
subtle tulip
zenith kernel
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Missile code definitely not taken from EL disfigure missile code

subtle tulip
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ye i might need to fix that rnsqsh

zenith kernel
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Lol

subtle tulip
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it fixed now :3

zenith kernel
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I have completed twilight other than the shield I need to add

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Cool detail. It applies shock and leting to units

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Actually no. It only applies melting

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I forgot I changed shock and not added another field

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Oh yea. The shield I have to add

subtle tulip
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onoice

zenith kernel
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I just don't know how to add a shield that has a certain shape.

subtle tulip
zenith kernel
subtle tulip
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*ye

zenith kernel
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Helps? I have defo done something wrong

subtle tulip
zenith kernel
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It doesnt show up on the unit. I have the sprite and everythng

subtle tulip
zenith kernel
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It has the thingy tho lol

subtle tulip
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go check in mindustry source the suffix of tecta's shield

zenith kernel
subtle tulip
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hm

zenith kernel
subtle tulip
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you sure you don't have typo

zenith kernel
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Very much

subtle tulip
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hm

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is your sprite white?

zenith kernel
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I made it draw the thing and uhh?

zenith kernel
subtle tulip
zenith kernel
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This us the sprite

subtle tulip
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or make the radius higher and make the shield be offset on the y axis backwards

round acorn
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hm

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lookin good

zenith kernel
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But the sprite isnt there on the unit. I still attempts to draw one

subtle tulip
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h m

zenith kernel
subtle tulip
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well if nothing else works make it a part with -shield for suffix and layer 125

zenith kernel
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Brother I have been sat on that the entire time

subtle tulip
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u h

subtle tulip
zenith kernel
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I'll try that

round acorn
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needs to be bigger and closer

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thats it

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i think

subtle tulip
round acorn
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wait why is there a shield in the middle too LOL

subtle tulip
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holdon i had a mod with a shield arc in a unit

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lemme find it

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github ain't loading lmao

zenith kernel
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Which one was it?

subtle tulip
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you need to set the region

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you put your mod name as defined in your mod.hjson

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and then your region name

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with a - beetween

zenith kernel
subtle tulip
zenith kernel
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Yes

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Yet it still doesnt work

subtle tulip
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bruh

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well just do the patchup solution i proposed

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you can even customize the color if you do it like that :3

zenith kernel
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Bruh

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I'll keep trying. I will scour the mod browser to find something

subtle tulip
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might also be a problem with capital letters...

zenith kernel
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Turn out I can't find anything

zenith kernel
subtle tulip
zenith kernel
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Am I not meant to have caps?

subtle tulip
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i think puters don't like caps just don't take my word for it

zenith kernel
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I'll try no caps

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Ahould I change the mod.hjson to no caps aswell

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mmmm. Tasty

subtle tulip
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so caps were indeed the problem

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just i suggest increasing the shield radius, moving it backwards a few tiles, and disabling the draw thing

zenith kernel
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I didn't even need to change the hjson. only the unit mcode

subtle tulip
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lmao 💀

zenith kernel
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Finally. Twilight is complete

round acorn
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yay

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the guns being above the shield makes it kinda weird

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but very cool

subtle tulip
subtle tulip
round acorn
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yeah

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thats what i meant

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words confuse me

subtle tulip
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it looks a bit weird maybe

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but it's fine

subtle tulip
zenith kernel
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Okay

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I'll merge them later and fix them

subtle tulip
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ok

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just my internet's bad

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so it takes 45748678576856787 years to submit any shit

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FUCK I FORGOR THE COLORS CAUSE I WAS FOCUSED ON MY INTERNET

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DAMMIT

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also it triple submited

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what the fuck

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i hate this shit

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i wanna go back home 😭

subtle tulip
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nevermind my internet is too crappy

zenith kernel
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Safe to say the fleet expands

subtle tulip
zenith kernel
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Yes

subtle tulip
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do the trails work well?

zenith kernel
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I edited the X and Y coords to be better becuase they were both a bit off but yes they do work well

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It probably helps they dont have a low altitude field

subtle tulip
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oki

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ye cause it allows the trail to be beetween 100 and 110 wich gives them bloom

zenith kernel
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Hopefully the mod browser will update and everyone can mess around with twilight and the new trail effects

subtle tulip
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Oki

zenith kernel
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Hmm. That issue with obliterates arms may be fixable now we found out they don't need caps for regions, it probably applies to parts and weapon parts but I can't be bothered now and obliterate is fine how it is now

subtle tulip
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ok

south rose
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this mod is Json????

zenith kernel
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Yes

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Through and through

subtle tulip
zenith kernel
zenith kernel
subtle tulip
zenith kernel
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Depend on what?

subtle tulip
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on wether you consider advanced effects easier in json or java

zenith kernel
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Fair enough

round acorn
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because i aint believing those are tier one's through 5 lol

zenith kernel
round acorn
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oh

zenith kernel
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Lol

round acorn
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so how does making units work

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im curious

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dis cool

zenith kernel
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So basically. There is no current way to make units because I never planned for that and this mod is just more of a 'I think its cool so I'll add it mod'. I could add unit factories and spawners but I never planned for it and all the units are horrendously balanced for vanilla campaigns

round acorn
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ohh i see

zenith kernel
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yeah. I could add that stuff in the future. I just have no plans currrently

south rose
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@zenith kernel

round acorn
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maybe could make for a fun extra 5 maps on the serpulo campaign

south rose
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i actually sprite it for fun

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-# u can take it

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if u want

zenith kernel
south rose
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otherwise no

zenith kernel
south rose
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idk

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(it look bad ig somehow)

zenith kernel
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I will modify it. it may just be the flat decal line

south rose
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ok

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i mean

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The reason I'm being so generous is that you're following the ancient style

zenith kernel
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Generosity for the ancients

south rose
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ancienter

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free spri---

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im gonna resprite it so uh

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-# just take it

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for Ancient,for Lord Yuria

zenith kernel
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Hmm. Interesting

south rose
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(im trying to sprite ancientish unit again)

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im gonna chek ur sprite 💀

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no learn it again,can i?

zenith kernel
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Yeah sure. My sprites are not exactlly ancient

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they are more of a spin on ancient

south rose
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thx

zenith kernel
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np

south rose
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-# [ignore the "Ru" bc follow his ancient style too]

zenith kernel
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Trying to do something with the center decal but it looks a bit wierd

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I'll try multiple versions

south rose
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what

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lmao

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and ...this is not ancient weapon style

zenith kernel
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I'm trying to make the center decal look better than a straight line but I made it look like a zebra

south rose
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lol

round acorn
south rose
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idk

round acorn
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leave the rest as they are

zenith kernel
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tried something different

round acorn
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cooler for sure

south rose
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pls change the shading,make it look ancientish

zenith kernel
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I like my high contrast but I can change it

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If I have to change the decal then i have to change these decals aswellhognar

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Unless i double decal?

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Synthwave decals

subtle tulip
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u h

zenith kernel
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Gradient decal?

subtle tulip
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no

zenith kernel
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You cannot tell me that doesnt look at least a bit cool

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I mean come on is this not cool

subtle tulip
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it's cool but doesn't fit in mindoostry

zenith kernel
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Are you telling me I can't slap that on a unit with the same gradiented decals and it wouldn't look somewhat cool

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I'mma add a poll for a decal vote.

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Pls vote

zenith kernel
# zenith kernel

@subtle tulip @round acorn @south rose Sorry for ping but you are the only ones here I can ping to vote.

south rose
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okay

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im watching u but

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my wifi fucking bad

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but voted.

zenith kernel
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Okay. Thank you. You can go back to whatever you were doing.👍

tardy hinge
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u can try to make the heat sprite as the gradient

zenith kernel
tardy hinge
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u can give me the heat sprite

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ill do a lil smth to it

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or just download gimp

zenith kernel
tardy hinge
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sure

zenith kernel
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bro wtf is gimp

subtle tulip
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it supports transparency

zenith kernel
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The only gimp I know is when I call someone a gimp for being stupid

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I'll download it

zenith kernel
zenith kernel
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So am i just meant to fuck around and find out?

tardy hinge
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or just google the stuff

zenith kernel
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I have unlocked opening the heat sprite

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So how do I make it transparent?

subtle tulip
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use gradient tool

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with replace mode (or erase mode i don't rember exactly)

zenith kernel
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I am so confused

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Like this?

tardy hinge
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i tried improving your logo

zenith kernel
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Oh jesus is that sick

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Will it work as the logo in the mod browser?

zenith kernel
subtle tulip
zenith kernel
subtle tulip
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yes

zenith kernel
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Okay

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How do I save it as a png? It forces me to save it as .xcf

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Should I just save it then change the file extension to .png?

subtle tulip
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export to png button

zenith kernel
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ah

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I'll deal with code later

tardy hinge
zenith kernel
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New icon works

subtle tulip
zenith kernel
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I need to sprite illitch's body, cell, and other weapons lol

subtle tulip
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💀

zenith kernel
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I also decided to start spriting a tank for some reason?

subtle tulip
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hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

zenith kernel
subtle tulip
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ye looks gug

zenith kernel
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Tank that was meant to be a quick sprite ended up taking a while. Heres retain

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Obvious inspiration from my good friend locusunitlocus

zenith kernel
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Updates with the main weapon

frail fossil
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doesn't matter if it's not mindustry style because this mod is not vanilla mindustry, you can do whatever you want as long as it looks cool

zenith kernel
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There right there is a man that thinks smart

subtle tulip
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o k

zenith kernel
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Also. I'm trying to learn to animate tank barrels

subtle tulip
zenith kernel
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Yes I am

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and It works perfectly

zenith kernel
subtle tulip
zenith kernel
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Okay

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I have made every barrel a seperate weapon because i am too dumb to work out alternating barrels sprites in one weapon. They side ones just have a firstshotdelay and the middle one is its own seperate explosive shot

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Its beautiful

subtle tulip
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you gotta give the weapon a recoils:3

zenith kernel
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Btw do you know what type of bullet the locus weapons have? I wanna add that to the side weapons

subtle tulip
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and then make each barrel a part and give those parts recoilIndex going from 0 to 2

subtle tulip
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o k

zenith kernel
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My current setup works fine anyway

zenith kernel
tardy hinge
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i think

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it can be point bullet type too

zenith kernel
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Its hard to tell tbh

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But railbullet types pierce automatically

subtle tulip
zenith kernel
subtle tulip
zenith kernel
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Okay

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Do you know any specific or do I just have to slap numbers on it until it looks the same as locus?

subtle tulip
zenith kernel
subtle tulip
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the first shot in a series of 3 will have for recoilIndex 0

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second one 1

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third one 2

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and then it loops back down to 0

zenith kernel
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So with that I can have all the weapons be merged into one?

subtle tulip
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yes

zenith kernel
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how does that work with shots?

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weapons: [
{
name: retain-weapon
mirror: false
alternate: false
top: true
rotate: true
rotateSpeed: 1.2
x: 0
y: 0
reload: 40
layerOffset: 1
parts: [
{
type: RegionPart
suffix: -sidemg1
moveY: -3
moveX: 0
progress: recoil
mirror: false
under: true
}
]
shoot: {
type: ShootBarrel
barrels: [
-3.25, +4, 0,
]
firstShotDelay: 0
shots: 1
shotDelay: 0
}
inaccuracy: 0
recoil: 0.1
shootSound: bolt
shootEffect: none
bullet: {
type: LaserBulletType
pierceCap: 1
length: 160
width: 3
colors: [D7BDFF, D7BDFF, D7BDFF]
damage: 38
homing: false
}
}

This is code for one weapon. I copied that with different values for the others. How do I add the recoil index then merge them properrly

subtle tulip
zenith kernel
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So do you put recoilindex into 3 seperate shot values?

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but they are in the same weapon instead

subtle tulip
subtle tulip
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you put recoilIndex the same as the number of your barrel

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your shootBarrel code is wrong btw

zenith kernel
subtle tulip
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you defined 1 barrel

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with an x of -3.25

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y of 4

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and rotation of 0

zenith kernel
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Thats correct no?

subtle tulip
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you only set 1 of your 3 barrels

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barrels don't mirror yk

zenith kernel
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Thats because thats one weapon

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I haven't began the merge yet

subtle tulip
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owait that's just 1 weapon

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ok

zenith kernel
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I'm asking how to properrly merge them lol

subtle tulip
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just merge now and we'll talk later

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just set shots to 3 and add the barrels to your barrels array

zenith kernel
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shoot: {
type: ShootBarrel
barrels: [
-3.25, +4, 0,
0, +5, 0,
+3.25, +4, 0,
]
firstShotDelay: 0
shots: 3
shotDelay: 0
}

subtle tulip
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wait no

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you gotta add a shotDelay too

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if you want separate recoils

zenith kernel
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So a shotdelay of a random value. 20 will work?

subtle tulip
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ye

zenith kernel
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Okay

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shoot: {
type: ShootBarrel
barrels: [
-3.25, +4, 0,
0, +5, 0,
+3.25, +4, 0,
]
firstShotDelay: 0
shots: 3
shotDelay: 20
}

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Do I add seperate bullet codes now?

subtle tulip
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no you just need 1 bullet code

zenith kernel
subtle tulip
zenith kernel
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Bruh. That is how I did it before. but one of the barrels had a different range than the others so one would turn a different way chasing another unit

subtle tulip
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💀 then reduce its range

zenith kernel
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Even though lifetime defines a normal bullets range and length defines a lasers range and both are not interchangable 💀

round acorn
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i like red purple lazers

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it'll be cool

zenith kernel
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Welp. The gradient has won the vote 2 hours before it ends with a staggering 4 votes compared to red and purple with both 1 vote

round acorn
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yas

round acorn
zenith kernel
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Its cool tho

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I'll just set all their ranges to the same

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so there is no turning issues

round acorn
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ik, but when you think about it, it dosent work, they all look the same

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i mean, you could make every canon fire a lazer, and on top of that a small bullet that follows the lazer path

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that'd be cool

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i have a mod that does that leme show it how it looks later

zenith kernel
zenith kernel
round acorn
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yeah nvm its good then

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maybe place the lazers below the artillery

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as sort of holding rails

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that could be cool

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(im not solving anything btw, just saying some stuff i think could be pretty nice imo)

zenith kernel
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I'll save that idea for a later unit

round acorn
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mhm

zenith kernel
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Maybe a hovertank/hovercraft wth the guns placed on the front and it rotates quickly instead of having a turret?

round acorn
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now, is the cannon an artillery? like, does it pass through blocks?

round acorn
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a flying hetser

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(or a better core unit)

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(whatever you wanna call)

zenith kernel
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God I really need to make illitch now

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I've been delaying with the tank and the vote

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Illitch will probably be a figurehead of my fleets. Big and beefy but accompanied with support

zenith kernel
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Got bored. Made a hovercraft. I promise I'll make Illitch next.

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Actual full impede. I WILL make Illitch next just give me while it'll be big

zenith kernel
# zenith kernel
poll_question_text

What decals should I use for illitch?

victor_answer_votes

6

total_votes

8

victor_answer_id

2

victor_answer_text

Gradient/Synthwave(Middle)

zenith kernel
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I have begun construction of Illitch. Here is its size compared to the current widest unit(Twilight)

south rose
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💀

zenith kernel
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Beeg

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The starting shade outline. (Yes this is my unit construcion process so what)

frail fossil
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hey whatever works man

zenith kernel
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Slow progess. Lightone shapes and decal streaks[For the gradient decals later] have been added, there may be changes in connections and seperations later (The green line is drawn to show the mirror plane it is not automatic😢 )

subtle tulip
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o k i n i c e

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maybe try using jamuu's unit spriting guide?

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ohwaityourdoingNHstylenvm

zenith kernel
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This is how I make my units and you will not question it because it is a different style

subtle tulip
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o k

zenith kernel
zenith kernel
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God I just realized how much the shape of illitch looks like a moth

round acorn
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moth?

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MOTH?

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its a FLYING WALL!!

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where did you get moth from

zenith kernel
round acorn
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i mean

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you could say it looks like anything with wings

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like a butterfly

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i eamnt by like

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its stiff

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it dosent have moving wings

zenith kernel
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I was saying its just kinda shaped like a moth. I didn't say it is gonna be a moth

round acorn
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i see

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but i still stand by the idea of a flying wall

zenith kernel
zenith kernel
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Final details and completed gradient decals. Cells will be made tomorrow and then weapons can be made and the final stage is coding

subtle tulip
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also i made mistake there's only one l in ilitch

untold meadow
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his ass is NOT new horizon

subtle tulip
zenith kernel
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guh

zenith kernel
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ILITCH IS COMPLETE!!

subtle tulip
# zenith kernel ILITCH IS COMPLETE!!

Un vent de Sibérie souffle sur la Bohème
Les femmes sont en colère aux portes des moulins
Des bords de la Volga au delta du Niémen
Le temps s'est écoulé il a passé pour rien
Puisqu'aucun dieu du ciel ne s'intéresse à nous
Lénine relève-toi, ils sont devenus fous
Toi Vladimir Illitch, t'as raison tu rigoles
Toi qui a voyagé dans un wagon plombé
Quand tu vois le Saint-Père ton cousin de Pologne
Bénir tous ses fidèles dans son auto blindée
Toi Vladimir Illitch, est-ce qu'au moins tu frissonnes
En voyant les tiroirs de la bureaucratie
Remplis de tous ces noms de gens qu'on emprisonne
Ou qu'on envoie mourir aux confins du pays
Toi Vladimir Illitch, au soleil d'outre-tombe
Combien d'années faut-il pour gagner quatre sous
Quand on connaît le prix qu'on met dans une bombe
Lénine relève-toi ils sont devenus fous
Où sont passés les chemins de l'espoir
Dans quelle nuit, au fond de quel brouillard
Rien n'a changé, les damnés de la Terre
N'ont pas trouvé la sortie de l'Enfer
Toi qui avait rêvé l'égalité des Hommes
Tu dois tomber de haut dans ton éternité
Devant tous ces vieillards en superbe uniformes
Et ces maisons du peuple, dans des quartiers privés
Ô, toi Vladimir Illitch, si tu es le prophète
Viens nous parler encore en plein cœur de Moscou
Et répands la nouvelle à travers la planète
Amis du genre humain, ils sont devenus fous

subtle tulip
zenith kernel
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I now need to code it!hognar

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and sprite and code a missile!hognar

subtle tulip
zenith kernel
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The missile is meant to be hurled in a random direction from this thing. So it needs to be small enough

subtle tulip
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o k

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(i might take ilitch sprite and upgrade it in piskel later)

zenith kernel
subtle tulip
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(note i'll do it later)

subtle tulip
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meow :3

tardy hinge
subtle tulip
tardy hinge
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challenge?

subtle tulip
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hmmm

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imma just start with the main body sprite

tardy hinge
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may the better spriter win

subtle tulip
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do we keep the gradient decal?

subtle tulip
tardy hinge
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yeah why not

subtle tulip
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lmao it's literally so wide i can't fit it all 💀

tardy hinge
subtle tulip
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imma not keep the gradient decal

tardy hinge
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layout complete

zenith kernel
subtle tulip
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also i only do 1 side and then flip it

zenith kernel
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Crazy how two people are revamping my spritehognar

tardy hinge
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-# i feel like this is a waste of time for me

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-# i need to fix copious amounts of errors in my mod

subtle tulip
tardy hinge
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also how will the sickle and hammer function ingame

zenith kernel
subtle tulip
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starting the shading

tardy hinge
subtle tulip
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why not

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i tried giving it a more interesting an threatening shape mostly

tardy hinge
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give the sprite

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ill make it a lil more smoother

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and cruiser like

subtle tulip
zenith kernel
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Oh my god. It is no longer a competition. It is a collab for a unit resprite

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I have never seen this is the history of mindustry modding

subtle tulip
subtle tulip
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also i sprite my units one half at a time

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i wanted to make it feel tentacular

tardy hinge
zenith kernel
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Heres you two collabing on a resprite and I'm coding the weapons

subtle tulip
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lmao

tardy hinge
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whar

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i think discord does this silly stuff with sprites

subtle tulip
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ye so i did modifications to it based on what i saw in yours

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now imma add the decal (also i am changing the decal colors because they fucking suck)

tardy hinge
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no dont

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i have smth crazier planned

subtle tulip
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o k a y

zenith kernel
subtle tulip
tardy hinge
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do the decals normaly

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ill add the gradients

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and smth special

subtle tulip
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o k a y

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but what about the image size changing???

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this is my take on decals for it

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midtoning time

zenith kernel
zenith kernel
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Cheers

subtle tulip
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nic

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smoothening time @tardy hinge

tardy hinge
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keep it a lil rugged

subtle tulip
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duidglenis

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guidelines

tardy hinge
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45 deg rule right

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yeh i do that too

subtle tulip
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yep

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gonna take break

zenith kernel
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I scaled Cy's guy down. I'll still add more and give it weapons but welcome stryke into the fleet

south rose
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ugh

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cy4nide0165 and mindustridiot_06647 and hungrycloud4913 collabing and uh

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can i have a seat? @zenith kernel

zenith kernel
south rose
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:0

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i have augh

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can we make it kind of "U" shape battleship?

zenith kernel
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Yeah. I can woek on it and make it more U shaped.

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Any weapon ideas?

south rose
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nope:(

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u just finish it today uh

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i found some cool shape for another unit with this

zenith kernel
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I'll add some random weapons then

south rose
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okay

zenith kernel
south rose
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ye u should

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but the name uh

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idk

zenith kernel
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Let me check my list of unit concepts for weapon ideas and unit names

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'Remian. A large unit that when defeated creates 2 weaker hologram clones and calls some smaller reinforcements to attack enemies.' Alright so the idea for the hologram this time around: chop some extra bits off and remove one or two smaller weapons so they don't get confusing. Another ship 'focus' has this idea but I still don't know how to implement it with json

south rose
south rose
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or just use it?

zenith kernel
# south rose whats kind of hologram?

Well the concept for focus holograms is they are blue because the decal is blue, meaning all grey is replaced with a blue colour to mimic an energy hologram

zenith kernel
south rose
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pls resprite it

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look very bad

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wah

zenith kernel
south rose
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dang

zenith kernel
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This is the basic premise

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Yes I had to recolour every weapon and save them with -hologram at the end then change weapon code to have -hologram at the end

zenith kernel
south rose
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hm

south rose
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can u show some gameplay?

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not important question

zenith kernel
south rose
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oh fine

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dont take it seriously

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i just lazy to install mod(lazy to play mindustry too)

zenith kernel
south rose
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oh

zenith kernel
subtle tulip
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maybe you're missing a -heat part sprite

zenith kernel
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Btw a little illitch weapon preview. The rotating missile launcher

subtle tulip
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dam 💀

zenith kernel
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Using the power of my recently discovered barrels field I can make the missiles be shot rotating around the weapon in a perfect octagon

subtle tulip
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👍

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imma keep working on my sprite rework

south rose
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whys look better than my fucking sprite

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mine look blurry af

zenith kernel
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Maybe discord issues

pulsar copper
subtle tulip
south rose
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@zenith kernel

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hows the progress

zenith kernel
subtle tulip
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@zenith kernel make ilitch have a weapon wich fires a rocket that's like the russian R36 missile (better known under its nato designation: "Satan".)

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Or maybe the RS28

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also known as

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"satan 2"

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because they needed to give it a fucking sequel

zenith kernel
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More work that will be procrastinated upon👍

subtle tulip
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yay

zenith kernel
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Got bored. Made epithelial and phagocyte. I'm a bit burnt out on the mod and coding so I'll end up making small sprites and doing all the code later

zenith kernel
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Got bored again. Basing names off cells so here we have B-cell and T-cell, both use parts taken from an NH weapon and glued on

zenith kernel
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Whats funny? The name or the glued on parts

subtle tulip
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the parts

zenith kernel
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Peak part reuse

subtle tulip
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agree

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d

zenith kernel
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Just a couple missile weapons inspired by some other NH weapons

south rose
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💀

zenith kernel
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I like missiles. I like having missiles on display. They look cool

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I'll try making more random weapons for big units instead of having dedicated weapons for each unit

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but smaller units will have dedicated weapons

subtle tulip
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whenIlitch?

zenith kernel
#

Jokes aside I have every single weapon needed I just need to spend the hours coding it. I might remake the body sprite once I'm done with that but yet again thats when I can be bothered

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That remind me how much fixing I need to do to units

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Obliterate needs to have its opening attack be a seperate weapon and animation and be animated with shot delay and over complicated effects and thats after I add the original missile weapons I was gonna add to begin with. That one tank I made need to have its tracks fixed because I just don't understand how tank tread code works. I need to work on other actual units and code some units I've already done. I have some items and liquids I made that need coding and then it would be nice to have factories for everything.

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mmmmm. Brainstoring and literaly telling everyone here all the stuff I need to do but haven't done

south rose
zenith kernel
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I'm makin a poll for the people to decide what I do bsfore all this work piles up on me.

south rose
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go play No Man's Sky

zenith kernel
# zenith kernel
poll_question_text

What work do I do cuz I want your opinion.

victor_answer_votes

8

total_votes

8

victor_answer_id

4

victor_answer_text

Play No Man's Sky for the whole day

subtle tulip
#

meow

south rose
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Moew~

subtle tulip
zenith kernel
south rose
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someone named Paracetamol

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mine is uh

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panhelicoptertranElysiagender

zenith kernel
#

Got a bit bored. Took a nucleoid and added to it and it is now a salvaged nucleoid for my faction. Welcome Nucleoizoros(I couldn't be bothered adding every weapon so it just has the missile silo to fill that big blank space

south rose
subtle tulip
zenith kernel
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Instead of coding ilitch I'm gonna make him bigger to be nucleoid scaled

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And I'll try making him actually NH styled, just give me a couple days

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Accidentally made a new gradient with swapping decals colours around

zenith kernel
#

Woohoo, NH style on the way

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Just give me like maybe a week at max to resprite the unit and rescale all the weapons and/or add different or more weapons

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I'm gonna replace the 360 shooting missile barrage for two side barrages that alternate

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This'll be all my progress for today. I'll continue working on it for days to come

zenith kernel
subtle tulip
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nic

zenith kernel
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Nevermind a new design is in order. Bigger to be cooler and more nucleoid scaled. I literraly rotated nucleoid 90 degrees and based the canvas size off of that to scale the new design

tardy hinge
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seriously

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bro u gotta stop making this thing bigger

zenith kernel
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I wanted it nucleoid scaled and then found out it wasn't. This should be the final size and/or design

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I mean it is meant to be a flagship after all. You can't have flagship without big, cool, and leading

low schooner
#

Okay but how about don't delete old unit? Just leave it in mod, for example it can be hidden in game and called "ilitch (old)" or something like that

zenith kernel
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Interesting

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Oh for F- Its still not even anywhere closehognar I would have been better off doubling the size of the first redesign

low schooner
#

0_0
...

zenith kernel
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I will keep old ilitch btw

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Just rename it lol

low schooner
zenith kernel
#

All I had to do was times the unit by 1.5 to make it nucleoid scaled with the first redesignhognar You ahve got to be joking

tardy hinge
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@zenith kernel making smth

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makes nucleoid look small

zenith kernel
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ooo

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(MY POOR LAPTOP)

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Bruh I wish I could remove all those skull reactions, it makes the mod look bad because of them and I'm putting all this work in for it

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Actually I'm pinning that. Word of my wishes will spread nowhere

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Maybe not. Forgot I can't do that😭

subtle tulip
zenith kernel
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Oh damn. I forgot about that

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The original ilitch name and concept

subtle tulip
zenith kernel
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You brought the memories back

subtle tulip
#

if you wanna make a unit line i have a few name proposals:
T1: syndicate
T2: coagulate
T3: consulate
T4: soviet
T5: commune
T6: unite
T7: ilitch

zenith kernel
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Oh damn. Will be emoji pinned and considered

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Extracting weapon placements

subtle tulip
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yay

zenith kernel
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That origianlly massive turret is tiny now. So I think how about I make a double sided middle turret using two of them as barrels sort of like nucleoids big railgun, the big difference is they might be able to move freely as barrels and shoot long lasers sort of like the smaller pester dude with the black hole in the center

subtle tulip
#

o k

zenith kernel
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Renamed ilitch-full to ilitch-(old)

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I'll also scrap the idea of point defense cuz It will just be a pain to add lol

subtle tulip
#

oki

zenith kernel
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Weapon locations added, more structure and random bits here and there.

zenith kernel
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All the work for today. Heres the current instead of one half

south rose
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nic

zenith kernel
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I haven't got much progress done so far today because I'm not very well versed in proper NH style and I've been playing ultrakill

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I really spent most of my time editing a few small parts and making engines. Might work on it a bit more.

zenith kernel
#

Just realised how much bigger the hammer and sickle need to be now

shy peak
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how big is that thing?

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size

south rose
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where are you from

zenith kernel
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Its just barely bigger than a nucleoid

shy peak
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crazy

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and its only a part of the unit?

zenith kernel
#

Well in that photo is one half of the unit and the hammer + sickle, The unit is symmetrical but I am making one half because I can just mirror copy it when its complete

zenith kernel
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I got an idea to give ilitch big ass cannons so uh. yea

subtle tulip
#

o k

zenith kernel
#

Ilitch-rampage, Three placed on each side with an extremely slow reload time and an extremely high damage output, I might be able to create impact frames for the weapons and what they shoot but idk

zenith kernel
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I shall make them shoot stars that rotate and look cool👍 , I'll have a big delay on them all so the possible impact frames would look better spaced out

tardy hinge
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also can u make a nucleoid styled rocket silo

subtle tulip
zenith kernel
zenith kernel
subtle tulip
zenith kernel
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I might be able to save the idea for another unit in the future

zenith kernel
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I should work on ilitch instead of making weapons and changing small code

subtle tulip
#

quite ppossibly

zenith kernel
#

I'm just lost on how to do the rest of it, I'm good at making big shapes for the main bit but all the darktone and extra darktone sections mixed in with scattered lightone pieces is confusing for me

subtle tulip
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idk

zenith kernel
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Imma make the missile silo instead, the one that'll be mirrored on the new version

subtle tulip
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oki

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so ilitch will be a sort of final boss?

zenith kernel
#

I call them flagships because I don't really plan a proper campaign and so far the mod is just my ideas and things you lot suggested that I added for fun. I guess you could call it a final boss

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I have another unit that is final boss material:

Samsara. A giant unit that will die, then come back with a different colour and will be smaller yet only a little bit less powerful over and over until it is finally defeated in a large dense explosion that will most likely wipe out whatever had killed it and all other surrounding enemies.

subtle tulip
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oki

zenith kernel
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The price I must pay for making a big unit in NH style when I am not very good at NH style is it taking a week at least

subtle tulip
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lmao

zenith kernel
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@tardy hinge Made nucleoid style silo, also how is that really big unit you were making coming along?

tardy hinge
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kinda bad it got too big

zenith kernel
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I just dunno how to fill this bit to make in true NH

zenith kernel
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Fair enough but I'm still stuck on it, I'll have to work on it slowly

zenith kernel
#

@subtle tulip @south rose @tardy hinge IT IS FINALLY COMPLETE!!!

subtle tulip
zenith kernel
#

IT IS BEAUTIFUL!

subtle tulip
#

SOVIET ANTHEM INTENSIFIES

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the least flat of all your nh style sprites so far good job!!!!

zenith kernel
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Thanks you! iT only took about 5 days I think

subtle tulip
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goog job :3

zenith kernel
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however I still have lots of weapon work and coding work to do so that shall be worked on further

subtle tulip
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okiii (i can help code if you need)

zenith kernel
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I will ask you when I need help, do not stress yourself on coding, I know how you've been lately and I don't want to make you're life harder

subtle tulip
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:3 nah i'll help coding isn't stressful so long as it's not trying to fix a no reason error

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well

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i already ment if you need help

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💀

zenith kernel
subtle tulip
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i am dum

zenith kernel
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I'm doing the first weapon tests of ilitch with what I have now

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v This boi gonna be hella strong v

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It appears my laptop has had some problems with such a large canvas

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Made a release to let anyone know ilitch is still a heavy WIP

subtle tulip
#

o k i

tame tide
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:v

zenith kernel
#

@versed magnet How do I make a bullet frag bullet that shoots a certain direction?

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or more specifically an interval bullet

versed magnet
zenith kernel
versed magnet
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yeah

zenith kernel
versed magnet
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imma go eep gn

zenith kernel
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Okay gn dude

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Accidentally made something pretty cool, Might use it for another unit later who knows

versed magnet
#

oooooooooo

south rose
#

those wu know💀

subtle tulip
#

I HAVE GOTTEN MINDUSTRIDIOT BACCKKKKK!!!!

zenith kernel
#

I've been adding items and liquids but the bundles aren't working for them. All the items and lieuids do not have names or description in the code because I removed those fields for the bundles to work but it still doesn't

subtle tulip
#

i think you don't need an s

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it's singular

zenith kernel
#

The whonk armadas items section has #items?

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oh wait

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you meant the seperate items names and descriptions

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@subtle tulip Right so I got the items working but the liquids still don't work?

subtle tulip
#

uh

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idk

zenith kernel
#

I know you as the bundles man so I though you could help but I've never seen you put liquids into bundles

low schooner
#

wait... there is no need for a space between "item.name" and "= translation" ?....

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: |

zenith kernel
#

Dam. Is this not the same layout other than the description and the mod name?

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Oh wait hold on

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there are some dots I could not see before

low schooner
low schooner
#

Anyway it's good if the problem is solved now.

zenith kernel
#

Alright I got it working

zenith kernel
#

Now I need to figure out animated item sprites...

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I don't even know if it is possible with hjson

shy peak
#

use frames: (the amount of frames)

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and make item sprite for each frame like
copper1 copper2 copper3

zenith kernel
shy peak
zenith kernel
zenith kernel
# shy peak exactly

Okay. I'll work on that tommorow. Is it alright if I ping you when its done or if I need help?

shy peak
#

its alright, im cool with it

zenith kernel
#

@shy peak Thank you so much, these look so cool ingame now

shy peak
#

no problem, glad it helped!

zenith kernel
zenith kernel
#

Got a bit carried away. Now all the cores I have glow from time to time.

zenith kernel
#

I've also updated the hjson to include more helpersalphahappy

name: "HC-Expanded-Dawn"
displayName: "HC-Expanded-Dawn"
description: "Warning: This is not New Horizons. Please leave a star on Github, It lets me know you enjoy the mod.
Credits to everyone who helped even in the slightest bit ever,
Discord Helpers: mindustridiot_06647 - Unit suggestions and unit FX work, cy4nide0165 - Railhammer unit FX work and suggestion, memories_keeper1111 - A couple spare sprites given because they didn't need them, display_namer - Small coding help for animated items and liquids"
author: "HungryCloud4913"
version: "v1.0.1"
minGameVersion: "136"

south rose
zenith kernel
#

Will do!

zenith kernel
#

I was just putting the @s because it would be more convenient when people can just change their display names at any time

south rose
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yeah

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I think the whole community is the only one named after Elysia

ivory dew
#

add a way to spawn the units

zenith kernel
ivory dew
zenith kernel
#

I'm not sure if it's possible to make an NH jump gate in json

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I might be able to if I slam code together but that would be very complicated

ivory dew
#

maybe make something more original?

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like an dropship spawner

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that will spawn the units

zenith kernel
#

Dropship spawner?

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How would that look?

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Maybe an orbital launch down animation. Dropping a unit from atmosphere

subtle tulip
ivory dew
zenith kernel
ivory dew
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as ammo

subtle tulip
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and then a consumer

ivory dew
zenith kernel
subtle tulip
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for extra stuff

zenith kernel
#

Interesting

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You people are much more original than me

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Benjamin you are going on the credits list with everyone else tommorow

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So I am gonna think on that idea and post everything here

low schooner
zenith kernel
#

@subtle tulip @ivory dew I have ideas for the drop pod concept and just some sneaky ideas for environment blocks:

Drop pod type unit stuff: Seperate pods resources for seperate classes and types. Seperate turrets for each tier. There will be a special turret for misc units that don't have their own set tier system.

Pods are made in large factories and are very expensive, to make up for the fact that there are no real unit production bays.

Flagships have a custom turret that requires much more expensive things and special expensive liquids.

Environment ideas for later: Metallic structures, Crystalline environments

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That pod resource Idea also made me think that it would leave the ability to stockpile unit pods and then use them all when needed

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Thats a cool gameplay aspect

zenith kernel
#

Ah. The problem of balancing. Do I have one pod be really expensive and only use 1 per spawn, have 10 pods be less expensive and use 10 per spawn or, have 100 pods be cheap and use 100 per spawn.

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I'mma make a poll for it actually

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I'm setting it to 24 hours but I'll probabaly collect the votes when I wake up tommorow

zenith kernel
#

I have awoken

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And 1 expensive pod wins by a 9-1 landslide

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Very nice

subtle tulip
#

nice

zenith kernel
#

Now I gotta sprite the pods, the spawners, the production facilities and then code it all

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Also mysteriously my discord has removed every single triangle from servers so idk

subtle tulip
#

is ilitch complete? @zenith kernel

zenith kernel
#

Slow progess because I ilitch is beeg

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and I find cooler things to add or make

subtle tulip
#

oki

zenith kernel
#

I'm cooking up a colour system and icon system idea in my head for the sprites

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So the idea is the middle notches are for the tier E.G.T1, T2, T3 .The top bar is for the travel method E.G.Spider, Mech, Naval. The bottom bar is for its usecase E.G.Offence, Defense, Specialist.

zenith kernel
# zenith kernel
poll_question_text

How do I balance the crafting and storage of unit pods?

victor_answer_votes

10

total_votes

11

victor_answer_id

1

victor_answer_text

1 expensive pod per spawn

zenith kernel
#

I'm rethinking the colour and notches design. anyone got suggestions on how to manage the pods to indicate specific unit types and stuff?

ivory dew
#

when update!??!?!!?!!

subtle tulip
#

huh

zenith kernel
#

No idea

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I still haven't decided on how the pods are gonna work

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Too busy playing ultrakill aswell

subtle tulip
#

o k

zenith kernel
#

I will P-rank P-2 someday. I will P-rank P-2 someday. I will P-rank P-2 someday. I will P-rank P-2 someday. I will P-rank P-2 someday.

subtle tulip
#

o k

zenith kernel
#

I have had a revolution in my brain. I might be able to use multicrafter lib to make the number of factories to make pods greatly decrease

subtle tulip
#

o h g o d

prisma heart
subtle tulip
prisma heart
#

noice

zenith kernel
zenith kernel
#

I need to know. I don't care who answers, is it possible to put quadratics in a shotdelay?

Is it possible to have a delay of 1.1n+1 or -1.1n+6?

zenith kernel
#

Got my answer from #modding-general

zenith kernel
#

A little update on the mod. The pod idea and implementation has been backseated a bit and I'm gonna work on a smaller unit. Polnareff.

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I'm gonna code it and then sprite it

subtle tulip
#

o k

zenith kernel
#

Basic shape down

zenith kernel
#

I have been working away. I'm trying to go for an aureus-ish style and it looks pretty good atm, (The decal colour will be changed later)

subtle tulip
#

noiceeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

zenith kernel
#

Umm. I got a little distracted and made this. Guess which unit this uses in its sprite

#

Right this will be my work for today. I'll continue working on polnareff and do some other work tomorow

zenith kernel
subtle tulip
zenith kernel
subtle tulip
zenith kernel
#

🙂

tardy hinge
#

or near the middle

zenith kernel
#

Indeed. Did I integrate it well?

tardy hinge
#

ye

zenith kernel
low schooner
#

Looks good but maybe less light tone on back of unit?

#

Because it's looks flat

zenith kernel
#

hm. Finished?

versed magnet
zenith kernel
#

Holy heck. Name change?

#

In all seriousness I have done no work today. I was playing minecraft and suffering in school

subtle tulip
#

dangggg

zenith kernel
subtle tulip
#

truly

zenith kernel
#

I changed it from cloud to nimbus. Aren't I clever

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I didn't like all my accounts having essentially the same display names so now most of my accounts have hun-'insert cloud name' as a display name

subtle tulip
#

o oki

tame tide
#

:O

zenith kernel
#

Working on something non lycor. Can you uess what it is?

tardy hinge
#

looks like a knight helmet ngl

zenith kernel
zenith kernel
#

So this is gonna be the decal layout and I'll work on it more tommorow

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Behind the scenes sketch

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I gave it a corny ass name but I'll change the name of the unit when its done

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Don't mind my shit handwriting

zenith kernel
#

OH MY GOD, RAILCANNON REFERENCE!

subtle tulip
mortal flame
zenith kernel
#

I said I'd work on it but I've been playing Titanfall 2 all dayhognar

atomic crater
#

Soo, silent 🐟

subtle tulip
#

ra

zenith kernel
#

I have not been working on anythinghognar I've been playing nothing but Titanfall 2 for 3 days and I'm back in my prime, destroying people and getting 1st or 2nd place. I am now becoming peak.

zenith kernel
#

Not sure if this is related to my mod but uh here. Break the silence

zenith kernel
#

BREAK THE SILENCE!

atomic crater
#

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!

south rose
#

moew

zenith kernel
#

Wooo. Less silence

#

AND GOOFING

atomic crater
#

👁️👄👁️

prisma heart
#

nice work

zenith kernel
#

God this is so horrid. Guess what I'm doing to it.

manic tartan
zenith kernel
# manic tartan What do the .5 units do?

Currently. They just exist in my files. The concept for them is they are cheaper than a full upgrade so they would be used in situations with a tighter budget.

tame tide
#

:O

#

@zenith kernel anything new ?

zenith kernel
#

Not currently. I still need to work on that boat resprite

tame tide
#

:O oke

#

~~my Nucleoid-9 Still not finish ~~

#

Haiz

zenith kernel
subtle tulip
#

nuuuuuuuuuuuu

zenith kernel
#

yuuuuuuuuu

subtle tulip
#

:<

tame tide
#

:O

zenith kernel
#

I need to work on things but don't have the motivation to do it. I've also been playing games and school is a pain in my ass with homework😢

subtle tulip
#

saem

zenith kernel
zenith kernel
#

Okay so this will be my tiny progress because I have school homework to do. Luckily this is my last week of homework because christmas🎄

zenith kernel
tardy hinge
subtle tulip
#

rong channel lmao

tardy hinge
#

oh

subtle tulip
#

yeah

tardy hinge
#

._.

zenith kernel
#

Lol. I liek the cool ores

subtle tulip
#

yea

zenith kernel
#

hmm. How dost thou code an aquaduct?

#

Time to go code diving

subtle tulip
#

oki

zenith kernel
#

Coded it

#

And it works!!!

#

Totally not me making small things to distract myself from bigger stuff I need to make

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Oh noes. I hit da scawwy number💀

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ohnuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

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So far everything works. The only problem is the bridge not having the arrow and the bottom showing up

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New release after a month

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If anyone knows how to fix the bridge situation it would be much appreciated

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hmm looks good

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Fun fact. Serpulo purple boat tree were my first ever units and I'm only respriting them because I didn't like the originals and plan to move them over to expanded dawn

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cool

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No progress today. I homework is too much. Luckily it is my last day at school tomorrow then christmas holidaysalphahappy