Human Resources Dept. - Development

[paper thistle]

just use gl_FragColor

can i see the shader file?

hhhh

[timber timber]

ah yes mindustry genshin impact i can't wait

[paper thistle]

the syntax error is weird

somehow it trips on in???

[oblique canopy]

it literally worked two days ago

then I switched to BE and it stopped working

then I switched back and it didn't work anymore

yes it's all in the main thread

is lowp tripping it

[paper thistle]

no because GL_ES is only on android

wait, maybe

try overriding preprocess() and remove lowp from fragColor

[oblique canopy]

yeah hol on

turned off my pc already

going out in a bit

prolly back in like 4 hours

[sly relic]

haunted pc

[warm inlet]

haunted pc that chooses to specifically fuck with the graphics

[lofty thistle]

uwu pwease merge

[warm inlet]

sk moment

[plucky shuttle]

John Operator (extremely op)

[drowsy imp]

https://github.com/Goobrr/HumanResourcesDepartment/pull/2 ahh yes

[warm inlet]

mindustry indonesia

[drowsy imp]

real

[oblique canopy]

some translations are a bit off

I'll propose changes later then merge

[drowsy imp]

yes kinda

[drowsy imp]

anyway, the translations are get into the context or not, i think probably are in

[oblique canopy]

did that, it fixed the error

[paper thistle]

anuke-dm worthy

[oblique canopy]

only problem left is that it doesnt seem to recognize the version directive

even though it is the first statement and isnt repeated

[paper thistle]

i wonder if this is an encoding issue?

did you make sure all your files are utf-8 with no bom

[oblique canopy]

huh

yeah

utf 8 no bom

at least that's what intellij says

[paper thistle]

wtf

[oblique canopy]

opened in notepad++ too and nothing strange

[paper thistle]

this is what's shown when you Log.info() the returned code in preprocess()?

[oblique canopy]

yeah

this is how i hijacked it to fix the vec4 error

can you try building and running the mod on your device?

maybe its just my pc

[paper thistle]

i love jitpack

[warm inlet]

yhitpakc

[oblique canopy]

aeugh

Commenting out the shader and ship loading for now

gonna work on something else

[warm inlet]

mfw shaders

[paper thistle]

it's not

[oblique canopy]

argargargargarg

[sweet meadow]

that's bad

[oblique canopy]

they should invent medicine that cures gl errors

[amber gull]

mayhaps this so called medicine is bugfixing

[oblique canopy]

stole the ac6 briefing sound effect lol

[warm inlet]

okay wow

holy shit

[oblique canopy]

50 line draw code

lots of curves

[warm inlet]

wait what does curve do

[oblique canopy]

basically turns a value to 0-1 as it progresses between the given range

very useful for this kind of stuff

[glossy apex]

yo ok wtf chill out man 😭

high value productions

[warm inlet]

ooh i just understood how it works
this actually looks pretty useful

[wet rain]

what's that music

[oblique canopy]

what music

[wet rain]

main menu

[wet rain]

mindustry 2 music leaked

[warm inlet]

also did you override the campaign button behavior here

[spring fern]

the point where mods start to look better than the game

[paper thistle]

wtf man that's so hot 😭

[oblique canopy]

yeah

with great effort

i wonder if meep's pr was accepted

[oblique canopy]

im cooking fr

[warm inlet]

cooking and forging the pan to his favor

[sly relic]

good stuff

[sly relic]

50 lines only?!

[sweet meadow]

this is fire

[glossy apex]

Came for Minako, stayed for the UI

[sweet meadow]

same

[amber gull]

nobody stays for the men 😔

[warm inlet]

as it turns out, knowing almost every part of how ui works lets one do absolutely wild shit

[plucky shuttle]

interp dialog go brr

[oblique canopy]

there's nothing ui related to that screen

it's all in draw

[warm inlet]

damn

[oblique canopy]

https://github.com/Goobrr/HumanResourcesDepartment/blob/master/src/hrd/content/cutscenes/StartCutscene.java#L45-L96

check the code if you want

i think this is far far worse than ui code

[warm inlet]

looks comprehensible enough considering the other bullshit i used to do with draw code

[oblique canopy]

might use this same draw abuse to make a gacha pull animation tbh

[lofty thistle]

dowit

i once made a mock up gacha pull animation similar to that of genshin

as shader practive

[plucky shuttle]

It's called a gacha game because it has g a c h u i n i t s g r a s p

[lofty thistle]

#1229453013450493962 message

we need this for HRD

Memorial Lobby Live2D for Operators

[oblique canopy]

I put in the PU menu renderer for the menu lmao

[warm inlet]

kekw

[oblique canopy]

tutorial sequence progress going well

I'll be adding in world processor commands to work with my cutscene & messaging system

Though im not sure if I still remember how

in other news I'll be completely reworking ground zero because I can and I'm bored

[oblique canopy]

power died and I haven't saved

thank god for intellij autosave

killed my mood smh

[warm inlet]

lmao

[oblique canopy]

I'm not a big fan of the government

[amber gull]

guh

[warm inlet]

where the fuck did that come from

though yes, not a big fan 🙏

[sweet meadow]

why

[copper vine]

it's the government

[glossy apex]

they cut power

[twilit flame]

oh hello big brother fan

[sly relic]

hello i am the government

[twilit flame]

hello big brother

[oblique canopy]

https://tenor.com/view/glowie-ben-shapiro-fed-youll-never-take-me-alive-youll-never-take-me-alove-glowie-gif-24568408

[drowsy imp]

Arrival

[amber gull]

departure

[oblique canopy]

with this latest update there's gonna be a 1/700 chance for this song to play instead of the menu theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94fv-5vXCwg

[glossy apex]

absolutely cursed easter egg

[warm inlet]

how do you replace menu musico

[oblique canopy]

remaking the starting tutorial right now and debugging it is really tedious

I gotta use logic

[sly relic]

text marker for debug :trolled:

[oblique canopy]

it's more like the cycle

I gotta go through the whole tutorial to find anything wrong with it

[sly relic]

oh god balancing

[warm inlet]

check every single possible detail that could be overlooked trollar

[sly relic]

hire playtesters :rnsqsh:

[warm inlet]

anyways got myself 4 storage mediums

see ya

[sly relic]

sorry?

[drowsy imp]

force replace mindustry.gen.Musics

Musics.menu = (music)

[warm inlet]

ok did not know it was actually as simple as that

[drowsy imp]

i use that method for my mod

with while case system

[oblique canopy]

[drowsy imp]

:hognar:

[warm inlet]

hognar

[oblique canopy]

huurgggg

using the vanilla objective system is hard

very janky

im not good enough with it

[twilit flame]

use world logic 🦅

[oblique canopy]

yeah, i did that

it's janky

[paper thistle]

anything relating to world procs and logic system in general is janky

do not use them

[oblique canopy]

😔

[amber gull]

:(

[oblique canopy]

how am i gonna revamp the tutorial then

[paper thistle]

😄

on second thought yeah maybe use them

[oblique canopy]

my biggest problem is that objectives arent sequential

for some fucking reason

maybe im using it wrong

[oblique canopy]

yeah it FUCKING ISNT

[paper thistle]

sequential?

[oblique canopy]

if you placed the blocks before you get the objective

it will immediately complete

and skip it altogether

[paper thistle]

immediately complete after its predecessing objective is completed, right?

[oblique canopy]

no it just finishes instantly

[paper thistle]

wh

[oblique canopy]

actually yeah

[paper thistle]

yeah they

[oblique canopy]

it finishes instantly

its not

its static

[paper thistle]

i thought i fucking made them a dag

[oblique canopy]

gathering items is more like "do you have x amount of item in your core" instead of "get x amount of items"

[paper thistle]

m

yeah

you can just

make custom objective that does that though

[oblique canopy]

might as well just hardcode the whole tutorial

[paper thistle]

lmao

[oblique canopy]

and store it in java

[paper thistle]

programmatic objectives, yeah

should be possible

[oblique canopy]

this causes problems when the player is an overachiever

and you're doing something sequential like dialogue-based tutorial

because

1. it skips lines entirely
2. it says multiple lines at the same time
3. it stalls for some goddamn reason

integration with logic is also janky because of this

multiple processors could trigger at the same time, etc. etc.

[warm inlet]

logic moment

[oblique canopy]

the objective system is flawed why did i bother

[warm inlet]

lmao

[wet rain]

not buffed 🥰

[oblique canopy]

auughh

[red elm]

When mobile version

[oblique canopy]

womp womp

[oblique canopy]

get out

[warm inlet]

lmao

[oblique canopy]

homebrew game squence system is done

now i just gotta use it

there's also state saving but I'm not sure about how effective it is at the moment

[drowsy imp]

ah yes arc hash 7e559036ec was gone, would i use 7e559036ecb57f3bd75a384b9ee3c73ceb240368 as arc hash?

[drowsy imp]

ah yes HRSoundControl doesn't do silence() and get fade was inherited from vanilla via reflect (this broke testing utils)....

i cant move bruh

[oblique canopy]

Vanilla silence() behavior is retained

doesn't work first-try when I added my changes so I just didn't do it

maybe later

I just needed music autoplay to not happen when a cutscene is playing

idrc for fade out

[drowsy imp]

yes

alright i use Vars.control.sound.stop() as heirloom of my mod

[oblique canopy]

.stop doesn't work in the menu since it just plays the menu music again the next second

[drowsy imp]

only i put in dialog.update(runnable)

[bitter sparrow]

how the hell did i know nothing about this

this is crazy

[plucky shuttle]

real

[oblique canopy]

I don't advertise it's really quite shrimple

[plucky shuttle]

anime

[oblique canopy]

neat debug ui

[oblique canopy]

RAAAGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHH I LOVE STATE MACHINES!!

[drowsy imp]

custom operator constuctor

[glossy apex]

what happens if I input stupid values

-6 stars

worst companion ever

[oblique canopy]

I think it would loop infinitely when you open the operator ui

I didn't take into account others' stupidity so there are no checks on anything

[glossy apex]

Can't wait to make bug reports because of my stupidity

[oblique canopy]

"works on my device won't fix"

[glossy apex]

[wet rain]

can you add custom gimmicks to custom operators?

[warm inlet]

may i add checks myself

[amber gull]

so real

[oblique canopy]

should i use the vanilla objective system or do my own?

since the GameSequence thing is practically already its own executor

wheee... more UI.

very thick diff

boy do i love scope creep

actually its just me not realizing how fucking big my plans are

im so cooked

[lofty thistle]

i recommend your own, then you can assign it Operators and stuff

or extend the vanilla objective

[oblique canopy]

ehhhhhh

vanilla objective system doesnt seem to be built for on-the-fly editing

[lofty thistle]

i guess it is up to how hard of a time you'll have with making the UI work with it seamlessly

[oblique canopy]

the UI is the least of my concerns

more about if it's bloating the mod tbh

I'm reinventing so many wheels

[lofty thistle]

you're trying to turn factorio into blue archive or something
some bloat is warranted

[oblique canopy]

but in all fairness the vanilla cutscene + objective system is ass

[oblique canopy]

You're right

PU 2 incoming...

[lofty thistle]

the current vanilla objective system itself is almost one-use(disposable) anyways

its only used in the first 15 minutes into the game or something

[oblique canopy]

It's also very disconnected from the already limited world procs

[lofty thistle]

so i don't see it as a big loss if you abandon it

[oblique canopy]

you can't suddenly add a new objective, it's all initialized on world load

[lofty thistle]

such is the pain of making a tutorial

tutorials need to be very niche and hard coded

[oblique canopy]

this is one of those branching questions in exams lmao

the task is "Make a new tutorial"

and it leads to a whole overhaul

[lofty thistle]

so yeah, ditch the vanilla tutorial, go wild

you won't lose much anyways, that's what i'm saying

[oblique canopy]

Yeah

I expect that i'll be using this system more often in the future

it's basically the sector scripted events we had

world procs just don't cut it

[lofty thistle]

oooooh

[oblique canopy]

objective backend done

UI time

[oblique canopy]

Good music & great visuals
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bEwIW8Ldelk

[oblique canopy]

me when im in a reinventing the wheel competition and my opponent is myself

[warm inlet]

love me some good debug ui

[oblique canopy]

Still working on it

should I push what I have right now so you guys could check it out?

[amber gull]

i say finish it first but das juz mi

[oblique canopy]

[oblique canopy]

Should I keep the enemy faction as crux or should I develop some lore for it

[plucky shuttle]

Non-descript company 2

[oblique canopy]

End

[oblique canopy]

Ooh yeah that'd be a great way to introduce more operators

you'd find operators from different groups/companies in story sectors across serpulo

[amber gull]

would be neat

class em into companies

limbus companies

fabria 2

[oblique canopy]

death

[amber gull]

:(

[plucky shuttle]

employee yoinkage

Sentient spore pile operator when

[oblique canopy]

Adding that to the list

[glossy apex]

have some of them sabotage you bc they're sent in by enemy companies

remake a whole a game

:)

[oblique canopy]

Might make it be like armored core where every company has beef with each other but the people working in it is pretty chill

[glossy apex]

oh that'd be cool

higher ups beef

[round oracle]

No way fifth feature :O

Awsomesause

Would it be fun to have some of the operators look like ocs in this server

[oblique canopy]

i do plan on adding some cameo operators

unit chans are out of the question

[round oracle]

Lul

[copper vine]

slightly less lethal company

[plucky shuttle]

life company

[glossy apex]

mild injury company

[plucky shuttle]

fatal organization

[glossy apex]

longer than usual sick leave incorporated

[oblique canopy]

brain not braining

no work done today

need something else to do that arent drawing operators or coding

[wet rain]

actions ain't building

[pine kiln]

Github isn't gittin

[plucky shuttle]

gitn'thub

[drowsy imp]

jitpack isn't packed properly

[warm inlet]

version uncontrol

[amber gull]

this calls for a helldivers

[oblique canopy]

I played helldivers a lot today

hopefully more tutorial progress soon

[wet rain]

braindustry methods

[warm inlet]

well

like

it has protected members

you are just asking for it by that point

[sly relic]

other method: send pr to mindustry to no longer make them protected

[warm inlet]

ok 👍

not like anything relies on those, right?

right?

[sly relic]

you dont break anything by unprotecting

🧌

[warm inlet]

what about privating

[sly relic]

private what

[warm inlet]

everything that uses protected

[wet rain]

reflect cannot access

[sly relic]

using reflect is kinda hacky ngl

anyway yeah if you don't have any other options braindustry'ing is acceptable

[warm inlet]

skill issue

[sly relic]

the skill issuer:

[wet rain]

the false hope of mixins

[sly relic]

b- b- but mixins dont work in mobile!!! 😭

[warm inlet]

by god
mixins fall in the category of code injection not full code replacement

though that might be depending on what you do

[sly relic]

mixins is a cool concept ngl i wish they worked on mobile

ios is a lost cause

[sly relic]

...as long as you're sure your userbase does not use another mod that replaces it

[warm inlet]

doesnt ios translate to swift

[sly relic]

really?

[warm inlet]

pretty sure it does

[warm inlet]

me about to replace SoundControl with another that can handle character-specific and cutscene music:

[wet rain]

inject into vanilla soundcontrol

[warm inlet]

mfw the #play(@Nullable Music) method:

[oblique canopy]

dude like actually can you unfollow this forum

I can't find a way to remove people from threads myself so I'm going to just ask

[warm inlet]

*forums

but fr tho not having control over your own forums/threads be some bullshit

[glossy apex]

the state of my phobos forum 💀

I'll just remake one when I hit the release

like tw did with aquarion

[oblique canopy]

my ass is not working

been doing comms

[glossy apex]

that's fine

get your supporters content starved to lower their standards

it's a strategy fr

[timber timber]

get that bag goober

[drowsy imp]

ohno (trying to add images via addregion)

[oblique canopy]

riight

it doesn't use the current active modname lmao

I'll fix it later today

[warm inlet]

guh

[drowsy imp]

hahaha, only use addregion from other modname sprites into "this modname sprite"

[drowsy imp]

ah yes 404: no logo found (because cdn of logo has been gone)

[oblique canopy]

lmao

[drowsy imp]

ah yes finaly

[warm inlet]

uh oh

[oblique canopy]

i really wouldn't recommend adding your own operators right now

it uses a number based Id system and depending on the load order it might break everything

[warm inlet]

oh dear

[drowsy imp]

hmm i think the id order from 0 and increases into 1, 2, etc... not the unique one

[oblique canopy]

Yeah

and depending on which mods are loaded and the load order it might offset every other operator's ids

Including HRD's

[drowsy imp]

ah yes, thats true... it will be overlapped, i need to rethink to make it not being overlapped...

[oblique canopy]

development hiatus next week prolly

will be moving 🙏

[timber timber]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[amber gull]

i expect the drippiest looking room by next year goob

[lofty thistle]

do you have plans to change this?

[oblique canopy]

i might just use strings for it

[plucky shuttle]

do whatever world save/load does to make adding more mods not screw up the blocks in the world

[drowsy imp]

also generate seq for listing...

[oblique canopy]

i set up my pc in the new house but power draw too high

tripped the breaker

[warm inlet]

lmao

[glossy apex]

ain't no way

💀

[oblique canopy]

called power company for more power

should be able to get back to work next week

[drowsy imp]

I kept business level 1 power plan for getting 4400VA

[oblique canopy]

still at 2200 here

[drowsy imp]

auch i forgor, i have 2300va

[sly relic]

HRD irl

[oblique canopy]

I got like four acs a fridge and a washing machine running

[sly relic]

you should revolve your entire mod around irl companies

[oblique canopy]

my computer draws 500va alone

[oblique canopy]

i don't think I can do that

licensing and shit

[sly relic]

keep encountering more companies

[oblique canopy]

I don't think I want to make one of the operators a fucking Lockheed Martin engineer lmao

[sly relic]

no just make sharded industries look and feel like a real company

[oblique canopy]

nay

imma do my own thing

[sly relic]

agile

[drowsy imp]

(should not try to make thecompany parody)

Trademark problematics

[oblique canopy]

End will be there

trust

[oblique canopy]

might as well use this pc-less time to make some ost with my laptop

most of my samples and project files are there

havent moved them over lmao

[warm inlet]

guh

tfw you forget to move something over from one device to another:

gotta love the HRD forum outcompeting literally every other forum

[oblique canopy]

huuurgggg still a long way to the end of the roadmap

[paper thistle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UAYNqeFXsU&list=PL6N1UyX9iZquXo_d-p5nSj3waaDY79ngh&index=113

i fw these drums

underrated af

[oblique canopy]

I could throw my kitchen appliances down the stairs and you'd start clapping

[glossy apex]

drums more like broken pc fan

[paper thistle]

damn 😔

[warm inlet]

lmfao

[oblique canopy]

I need operator suggestions rq so I can get things done even if I can't code atm

no unit chans

[plucky shuttle]

explosives expert
makes things explode™️

[warm inlet]

what operators have you made rn

[oblique canopy]

just Minako and Rhyo

Minako gives production buffs

Rhyo gives turret buffs

[amber gull]

mf that rolls a dice whether or not factories produce double items or not

[warm inlet]

the chaos operator

you pick 6 options (3 positive, 3 negative) to put on a dice
they roll the dice

[drowsy imp]

should I suggest these operator abbilities they needed to:

• unit buffer
• enemy debuffer

[warm inlet]

also @oblique canopy will operators have units to represent them in the world or not

[oblique canopy]

some will

But most dont

Minako gets her own core ship when she reaches level 20

[amber gull]

5 stars only probably?

[oblique canopy]

maybe if the operator has a gimmick

a drone master type operator would probably have like 5 special units at a time

imagine if the operator straight up dies if their unit gets killed lmao

[amber gull]

this would be so fucking funny

your operator died? too bad, pull for them again

[oblique canopy]

nah you won't be able to pull for them

[glossy apex]

one low star one that super specifially buffs shields and nerfs enemy shields

[sweet meadow]

something that allows me to run into the enemy base armed with 20 polies and win

[amber gull]

mid

[sweet meadow]

true...

but it would be funny as hell

[oblique canopy]

well shit

i could never cook like this again

i just found the menu theme project file

i was actually working on an extended version before i stopped

the one i'm using rn as the menu theme is actually incomplete lmao

[amber gull]

bismillah... he cooked

0:23 had me standing

https://tenor.com/view/this-peaks-memes-gif-16921095133411355177

[brazen iron]

Blue Archive is everywhere

[drowsy imp]

minecraft, terraria, and now mindustry

[brazen iron]

Yes

[paper thistle]

mid

[oblique canopy]

mid

[oblique canopy]

is this what a leitmotif is?

[amber gull]

if you slap it everywhere it will be

[surreal musk]

wow this is amazing. The familiar mindustry motif works great

[oblique canopy]

launch menu/planet menu theme, bit too far off from the vanilla style imo so i'll probably use this for something else.

[oblique canopy]

new menu theme

[paper thistle]

this is so peak

[oblique canopy]

fr

that last part feels like that one gif

https://tenor.com/view/piano-piano-on-fire-man-playing-piano-fire-gif-18619744

[plucky shuttle]

Corporate HQ

[lofty thistle]

Hoshiaほしあ [name meaning: bright starry girl]
A bright cheery type, boosts turrets on offense and bonuses for capturing sectors
When you have her at high level, capturing new sectors will be much easier, and capturing sectors will in return boost other aspects (such as giving one-time performance boost or overdrive rewards)
She cannot do anything for planets with all or most sectors captured though, so useful for early game
Design: Should look cute and clumzy, the "sidekick energizing girl" trope

[warm inlet]

oh no

[lofty thistle]

what

obviously the drawing's just in my artstyle, she's not going be an actual child or something

in fact only 2 years younger than Minako

[warm inlet]

inshallah the message disappeared

[oblique canopy]

40 year old inshallah

[glossy apex]

energizing 40 yo

[lofty thistle]

what

is Minako 40

[glossy apex]

if yes, damn I need to know her skincare routine

[warm inlet]

this is a wowza moment right here

[oblique canopy]

42

(put in stasis for 20 years)

[lofty thistle]

oh

[glossy apex]

stasis cheating smh

[warm inlet]

guh

[lofty thistle]

yeah then i'd picture Hoshia to be 20yo

assuming she wasn't also put on stasis

[glossy apex]

(15 years in statis)

[paper thistle]

(15 years in stasis)

[lofty thistle]

(what)

is stasis an important lore thing

[paper thistle]

no it just means she's 5 years old

[lofty thistle]

why

[oblique canopy]

I unfortunately cannot add any childlike operators

because of in-universe labor laws

🙏 greatest apologies

[warm inlet]

...why does sk have a timeout indicator

what in de hell happened here

[broken cargo]

I don't feel I can say anything without getting timed out too...

[glossy apex]

how can sk be timed out 😭

[lofty thistle]

she isn't childlike any more than Donquihote is tbh

anyways time to come up with more operators

wait how old is Don anyways

[sly relic]

out-of-context glennfolker

[sly relic]

I thought you were not a big fan of the government

[oblique canopy]

shhh

[sly relic]

(30 on 30)

[floral flame]

she said the forbidden word and must be put in eternal damnation (1 hour)

[sturdy oriole]

I wonder what forbidden word they said

[lofty thistle]

labor

[warm inlet]

lmao

[sturdy oriole]

Damn

[red elm]

lol

[sleek dome]

oh shit we're putting advance wars mechanic into mindustry

pls add special abilities that are unique to each commanding officers

and day to day percs

[long palm]

what place is this

[oblique canopy]

https://youtu.be/7jeMp7qdS2U?si=LMf1sDxqYtTD6Iks

[floral flame]

goober domain

[drowsy imp]

domain expansion

[long palm]

Domain? No way bad erekir map made by anook reference

[timber obsidian]

Write banned words

[timber timber]

what about a space furry

[timber obsidian]

human rd

[oblique canopy]

normal furry probably

space furry no

Probably kemono at best

[timber timber]

No Aureus operator? 🥺

[oblique canopy]

no

[timber obsidian]

Be robot operators?

[oblique canopy]

maybe

but im not adding unit chans

fuck unit chans

i hate unit chans

[timber obsidian]

Krita operstor yupieee

[timber timber]

definatlly not you

[floral flame]

smh

gonna learn the art style in this mod

nevermind shit is too hard

[warm inlet]

brother spent 1 minute and backed out immediately

[long palm]

1 minute is a lot

[warm inlet]

fr

[glossy apex]

he tried

I respect it 🙏

[floral flame]

nah im just straight up ass at pixel art

[glossy apex]

me too when it comes to this game

I just can't

[sturdy oriole]

For me it's mindustry the only pixelart i can withstand to do

At least for now

[glossy apex]

I'm only decent at minecraft like stuff

[sleek dome]

I'm decent at suggesting things related to the topic instead of saying something irrelevant

like what kind of commanders we should make and how they can affect the game

[oblique canopy]

sans undertale

[sly relic]

trait:

• doesn't do anything
• can't be removed

[sleek dome]

ohno I made hooves for feet

[oblique canopy]

those clothes dont look very practical

[sleek dome]

they're place holders

[timber timber]

uh

blubs just drawinga nd posting

[floral flame]

ehm where the fuck is the part where we discuss the mod

[oblique canopy]

I'm busy drawing yuri rn

[floral flame]

who

[sturdy oriole]

Dayum

[timber timber]

Goober has priorities

[oblique canopy]

pc set up and shit already

power's not an issue anymore

still busy sorting out uni and other things so I'll be back next month

[sweet meadow]

william afton
traits:

• murders small units
• converts them to resources

[oblique canopy]

your father
traits:

• disappears upon entering the sector
• reappears when you capture it

[drowsy imp]

Bonus trait:

• gave you free milk (lifetime cooldown)

[oblique canopy]

development is back on

[oblique canopy]

i might add this old sketch as an operator

fill out the furry quota

[floral flame]

😳

[warm inlet]

mfw == for string comparison (intellij will warn you, and you will like it)

[oblique canopy]

intellij can kiss my ass

[warm inlet]

i just comply with it

[floral flame]

how may operators are there rn

[glossy apex]

7 256 123

afaik

[floral flame]

buh

[timber timber]

oh hey i remeber this

[twilit flame]

.intern() ⛈️

[slim void]

Doki doki?

Also plz add undead person as operator

That would be very awesomesause

[warm inlet]

guh

[slim void]

Guh

[oblique canopy]

as in lesbians

[sweet meadow]

BASED!

[floral flame]

alive (optional)

[slim void]

Zombie emoji

[amber gull]

i love lesbians

[paper thistle]

use .equals for strings

otherwise you'd pointer-equals it which never works

[paper thistle]

oh ok

nevermind then

[twilit flame]

clearly he .intern()ed them

[long palm]

Are mindustry players interns

No Pay
Get experience in cooking spaghetti
Get experience in logistics
Work for a massive corporation (sharded)

[sweet meadow]

[manic lion]

War crime enthusiasts

[lofty thistle]

forbidden love

[oblique canopy]

all the sweeter

[timber timber]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-attack-gif-24089703

[floral flame]

i need that thing where you can add custom operator

[oblique canopy]

should i make an antagonist character

or do i keep Crux as just a faction

[sweet meadow]

do

[modest zephyr]

We are playing lobotomy corporation with this one!!!

[drowsy imp]

Make class that extends Operators

[plucky shuttle]

As a joke, turn math operators into an operator

Quadruplets Add, Sub, Mul, and Div

[red elm]

||oh god here shall i summon math teacher....||

[long palm]

the Sin and the Tan operators

[oblique canopy]

Sin Badguy

[timber timber]

make them senator armstrong

[plucky shuttle]

Cooks burning omelets and fires them at your units

[broken cargo]

Magna the Oilborder

[sly relic]

and his evil twin, Saul Goodman

[drowsy imp]

cosine

[red elm]

atan

[drowsy imp]

integral

[warm inlet]

where θ

[red elm]

log10

[pine kiln]

sin cos tan

[warm inlet]

∞ my man

[plucky shuttle]

half tau

[oblique canopy]

enough math brainrot

I'm tired of it

[glossy apex]

skibidi

[long palm]

Sigma (sum)

[iron mortar]

I need the anime women in mindustry

[devout swift]

i love scrolling through a thousand messages

[long palm]

Just dont read them

Ignorance is bliss

[red elm]

Anime Women.

[broken cargo]

#animdustry-2

[amber gull]

no

[drowsy imp]

don't ever add unit chan to this mod (i dont want it happened or make it happens)

[twilit flame]

i will add them in a separate mod

it will happen

muhahahahahhahahaha

[oblique canopy]

private

https://tenor.com/view/right-now-it’s-just-that-everything-feels-right-sorry-amanai-gojo-sorry-jjk-gif-6689060642723775612

[drowsy imp]

ah yes very propietary (but for good)

[twilit flame]

i will use Reflection

[drowsy imp]

Won't work, only protected field or method

[paper thistle]

so... reflection is domain expansion, and java.security.SecurityManager is domain amplification?

[drowsy imp]

Don't ever use Mixin lol

This isn't fabric bruh

[oblique canopy]

im just gonna

[drowsy imp]

unstatic

[oblique canopy]

not add an api

shit breaks if you modify it and i aint gonna support it

[drowsy imp]

very propietary move

they wont make HRDModLoader

and they will make derivative work of them

[oblique canopy]

it is inevitable

[drowsy imp]

[oblique canopy]

you can pay me 90$ to draw and add a custom operator fr...

[drowsy imp]

so ea

[oblique canopy]

yes

[paper thistle]

satojo goru

[oblique canopy]

first and foremost i am a commission artist

https://tenor.com/view/domain-expansion-gif-12806517172079498581

[drowsy imp]

i hope the business work at glance

[oblique canopy]

yeah im still working on the tutorial sequence

[drowsy imp]

if dexpeirne planned to add animdustry to your mod, if you were losing, close-source it and obfuscate for defence

[sly relic]

git revert:

[drowsy imp]

[oblique canopy]

i cant really stop anyone

but i wont be adding animdustry

[sly relic]

animdustry is when rhythm game

[drowsy imp]

too overhyped

[sly relic]

in a hypothetical scenario

"senpai please go through this really cool rhythm segment plea se"

[drowsy imp]

that's hypocritical scenario of animdustry ads

[twilit flame]

close source it when lawyers

you are using mindustry as a significant component of your mod

mindustry is gplv3

you must gplv3

[drowsy imp]

I made my mod with MIT license bruh

legal notice included on my mod's credits

[twilit flame]

anuke didnt sue you doesnt mean you dont need to use GPLv3

consider reading GPLv3

[drowsy imp]

Read this bruh

[twilit flame]

read GPLv3 bruh

[drowsy imp]

You should learn copyright notice

[twilit flame]

you should learn gplv3

[drowsy imp]

There's something copyrighted materials

Breh

[twilit flame]

your copyright notice means nothing if you dont do the other things the license tells you to do

[drowsy imp]

[drowsy imp]

I don't dare do multiple license

[twilit flame]

here is a simple explanation of gplv3 https://gist.github.com/kn9ts/cbe95340d29fc1aaeaa5dd5c059d2e60

[drowsy imp]

tldr

[sly relic]

a mod doesn't ship the entire mindustry impl

[drowsy imp]

true

[sly relic]

therefore i do not think mods are required to use gplv3

[twilit flame]

they still are dynamically linked against mindustry

[drowsy imp]

static

also they will use different rendering or implementation

[sly relic]

how does this make it required to use gplv3 anyway

[drowsy imp]

describe

[sly relic]

a mod is more of a patch than anything

[drowsy imp]

same as minecraft modding

[twilit flame]

because youre still using it as a significant component

[drowsy imp]

"All Rights Reserved"

[twilit flame]

your mod cant live without mindustry

can it?

[drowsy imp]

just All Rights Reserved

[sly relic]

yes but it does not necessarily include the [code (fragments of logic & impl)] that is [modified]

[sly relic]

this is a bad example since minecraft is proprietary
a more suitable example though gplv2 is linux drivers

also can we move to #general-programming

[twilit flame]

so i could dynamically link with every gpl library in existence from proprietary software youre basically saying?

[sly relic]

also I don't get the "dynamically linked" part

[drowsy imp]

my pleasure

[twilit flame]

not including the libraries in the binary

[paper thistle]

my condolences for goober about the license freak happening in his thread

[oblique canopy]

[floral flame]

killing all of them

[long palm]

Dafuq happened here

[timber timber]

fork

https://tenor.com/view/kotte-animation-running-missing-train-missed-train-gif-11564041042971474781

[mystic sleet]

What do you do in this mod anyway?
Is it a planet mod
QoL mod?

[spring fern]

QoL I guess

[oblique canopy]

I guess anime girls fall under QoL

and gambling

[amber gull]

gamba

[sly relic]

mod that increases player retention
it's the best mod

[red elm]

mod that make you get addicted to mindustry.
It's the best mod ever

[oblique canopy]

goon mod

[sly relic]

i'm sorry what's a goon

[oblique canopy]

henchmen

[floral flame]

ey boss what's the plan
evil

[jade coral]

Agree.

[oblique canopy]

each faction/corporation/group is gonna have different design elements

rn I'm leaning into construction/industrial looks for the base operators (rhyo, minako)

but for future operators I can have a little more freedom

[timber timber]

oh

thats pretty neat

i should draw an operator

[sly relic]

lmao it really does override (foo's client btw)

[lofty thistle]

why not

letting other mods add operators is interesting

[oblique canopy]

I don't wanna

because depending on load order

it might break the hrd operators

[lofty thistle]

isn't dependency guaranteed to force the load order

[oblique canopy]

and I don't wanna bother fixing that

[oblique canopy]

I dunno

I'm gonna assume it's not and just not allow it to do that

[lofty thistle]

if mod A specifies dependency: "goober"

mod loading order is forced to be goober -> A

[oblique canopy]

still it'll also break even if hrd gets loaded first

it uses a numerical id system rn

[lofty thistle]

this actually makes hjson mods able to add java mods' modded content

[oblique canopy]

I could make it use strings but idk if I should bother

[lofty thistle]

making something serializable depend on numeral id alone is a bad idea anyways

[oblique canopy]

auurgghh

[lofty thistle]

there is a reason other MappableContentType uses strings

also strings would be useful if you eventually split up the operators and their skills into different Content, like WeaponType and UnitType

and automatic localization

[oblique canopy]

the numerical id system is kinda redundant anyways

it's only used for operator sector saving

which can easily be swapped out for strings

though I could keep the numerical id system for sorting in the roster

[drowsy imp]

try alphabetical sorting

[oblique canopy]

nah, numerical sorting would allow other mods to add operators in base factions

while still maintaining proper sorting in the roster

[warm inlet]

one can go two ways with dependencies or mods that expand upon an existing one

1. normally, through dependencies
2. make your own mod loader

1 works in about every case
2 is for odd/niche cases

[floral flame]

i can try rn

watdahell

[lofty thistle]

what

maxExperience?

what

[floral flame]

idk i havent played this mod

[lofty thistle]

is that the mod.hjson

[floral flame]

wh

no lmao

https://github.com/Goobrr/HumanResourcesDepartment/blob/master/src/hrd/operators/Operators.java

do you need BE for this mod or what because i cant seem to download it by url

[oblique canopy]

its the amount of experience needed to level up from level 1

[lofty thistle]

oh

[oblique canopy]

gets scaled by level

i forgot how the scaling algo works but iirc its just 1.5x everytime it advances

[lofty thistle]

due to the stars i thought that was mod.json and anuke came up with a new mod sorting metric

[oblique canopy]

nah thats just for the amount of stars

purely visual

[lofty thistle]

gacha

mindustry gacha

[warm inlet]

gacha

[lofty thistle]

no way

rock

we need a rock op

boulder

[warm inlet]

rock operator

• does nothing
• rests on top of your current unit

[oblique canopy]

no animdustry

fuck animdustry

[warm inlet]

basically no unit chans then

[oblique canopy]

yeah

ive said that like a thousand times already

[warm inlet]

fair

animdustry already has its fair strike of popularity

[oblique canopy]

animdustry designs are just ass im sorry

i dont like them

[warm inlet]

what would be a good design for a unit chan anyway

[oblique canopy]

one that isnt a unit chan

[warm inlet]

guh.png

[lofty thistle]

so boulder

boulder isn't an unit chan

[iron mortar]

Factory chan when?

[drowsy imp]

animdustry things will not tolerated

[opaque vessel]

tolerate it then

[oblique canopy]

https://tenor.com/view/domain-expansion-gif-12806517172079498581

[timber timber]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-spongebob-domain-expansion-domain-expansion-gif-13190880951270077145

[sweet meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/sukuna-never-cook-again-sukuna-domain-gojo-sukuna-malevolent-shrine-gif-13864519526514614028

[red elm]

Domain expansion
English or spanish

[broken cargo]

delayed expansion: r4 jumpscare

[floral flame]

1984

remind me to secretly execute a random person tmr

[glossy apex]

here's your reminder :3

(it's tmr somewhere in a timezone)

[twilit flame]

too real

[plucky shuttle]

get ready to vanish

[still harness]

Average jammuu message vs. Average human person

[drowsy imp]

Deceased person as hologram

[oblique canopy]

im gonna be real i need help

@paper thistle GLENNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN

SAVE MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

[paper thistle]

yes?

[oblique canopy]

nevermind

[broken cargo]

[drowsy imp]

[red elm]

[long palm]

[spring fern]

[floral flame]

https://tenor.com/view/mean-cat-cat-fu-gif-23644413

[glossy apex]

typical mindus

[paper thistle]

i feel really insulted

[red elm]

[red elm]

To think i fought for serpulo during 2 entire years just to see it turn into this

oh well... downloads *

[oblique canopy]

Tutorial testing is very tedious

I'm going to move on to something else

Though at least the groundwork for scripted sectors are done

[worn gorge]

Will this be limited to one planet ?

[frigid onyx]

E