Abyssus master-post

[scarlet oracle]

I know, that's why I'm going to rebalance them.

[scarlet oracle]

The Renounce has had its damage halved and range multiplied by 0.75.

I found that the Exhume and Dissipate didn't need any changes.

[scarlet oracle]

The Mantle is here. It fires fragging cluster grenades. It looks like the Titan because it's basically just a Titan - lore-wise, the Sharded knows almost nothing about Abyssus, and thus, tends to re-use what it can, albeit made of different materials.

[obsidian spade]

so the enemy faction has somewhat different tech?

[scarlet oracle]

If I can find time to make it, yes.

[obsidian spade]

cool

[scarlet oracle]

Turret concepts will get more unique as you encounter more enemy bases and learn to play around the weaknesses of their turrets.

[karmic lark]

How do you make that recoil movement on the back of the turret

?

[obsidian spade]

its parts. the base game does this

[scarlet oracle]

The Befall is here. It fires piercing javelin rounds that speed up over time.

It may be small, but it sure did take a while to make. Almost my whole day, in fact.

[obsidian spade]

cool

[scarlet oracle]

The Excurse is here. It's similar to the Disperse, firing burst flak at aerial targets. It also has a slight homing capability.

[obsidian spade]

cool stuff

[scarlet oracle]

Thanks!

I'm particularly proud of the sprite on this one, as well as the animations - several pixel-perfect diagonals are present between parts, which took tons of tweaking to get right, but it looks good now!

[obsidian spade]

i love it when the parts come together seamlessly

[ionic crescent]

i have 1 question: how do i launch this fire mod 🔥 🔥

(it crashes)

[manic merlin]

play it on BE

[ionic crescent]

i did tried

and it crashes cuz of shaders

[scarlet oracle]

I don’t use shaders in my mod. Do you have MEEPofFaith/black-hole-renderer enabled?

It’s no longer a dependency for my mod, as that causes crashes on BE.

[ionic crescent]

oh it is black hole renderer crash

[scarlet oracle]

Glad it’s working now! There aren’t any campaign sectors right now, but feel free to play around in sandbox.

[random forge]

black hole renderer not black pencil hole renderer 💀

[split musk]

Wait, you can already download this mod? I haven't found any from GitHub or mod browser

[ionic crescent]

i can give link: https://github.com/overdramaticpanromantic/abyssus

[split musk]

It just says no releases published

[scarlet oracle]

Download it as a .zip. No releases are published because the mod isn't released.

Go to the repository > code > download as zip.

[split musk]

Ok thank you 🥰

Never thought of that 🤦

[ionic crescent]

wait abyssus does not need any black hole library...

[scarlet oracle]

Not anymore. I had to remove the dependency because of crashes.

[manic merlin]

it needed black hole library in the past?

[scarlet oracle]

Yeah.

[scarlet oracle]

The Engulf is here! It engulfs enemies in a stream of flames, using either Methane or Oxygen as its fluid of choice. Both have the same stats, so it's best to use what you have more of - or what you like the look of more.

[manic merlin]

i like the way methane looks

[scarlet oracle]

Thanks!

[surreal narwhal]

Abysussus

[stray hollow]

Sussus amogus

oh god what have i become

[obsidian spade]

self-reflection moment

[manic merlin]

when the abyss is sus

[scarlet oracle]

[scarlet oracle]

I’m running out of turret ideas. If anyone has any, toss them my way!

[fickle nebula]

Dude, I've had a lot of ideas about this for a while now, and I'd like to help with your mod, it's good

[scarlet oracle]

It’s a solo project, but ideas are welcome, as previously stated. I’m glad you like it thus far!

It’s nearly content complete. I only need to make a few more turrets, and then only the campaign remains.

[fickle nebula]

First, a 3x3 or 4x4 turret that fires a short-range laser similar to the parallax style that deals medium damage, even with a melting effect only on land units

second idea is a 3x3 medium-range turret that fires several medium-damage plasma balls spread out as if it were a shotgun that can be both anti-air and anti-ground

[obsidian spade]

try to play on the bullet sharding away during flight, like afflict

[scarlet oracle]

I might be able to do that! Could call it the Entrap and have it use a bunch of power.

[fickle nebula]

cool

[scarlet oracle]

Ooh, yeah! I forgot about how you can do spawnBullet stuff. Might make an upgrade to the Befall that does similar things - Biskonium-tier, perhaps?

[obsidian spade]

maybe turret name: Inject, uses power + optionally a material, fires a single lance forwards that deploys smaller bullets/lasers during flight?

remind me what kinds of capsule items do you have?

because i thought of a turret that turns them into homing missiles which explode with arcs upon hit/crash

or fire a laser forwards

[fickle nebula]

a good idea to complement the my second idea, the plasma balls can fragment into smaller energy projectiles on impact and this turret would consume a lot of energy per shot with an average rate of fire

[obsidian spade]

sorry not capsule, ion battery

eats ion batteries, shoots little missiles that explode into either electric arcs or a laser beam forwards

[scarlet oracle]

Maybe Inoculate instead?

[scarlet oracle]

Only shield canisters right now, alongside ion batteries. Maybe I could make a discharge arcthrower?

Perhaps called the Expulse.

[noble terrace]

after download the zip, extract it and put it on Mindustry Folder?

[scarlet oracle]

Yeah.

[noble terrace]

alright gotta try it.,

[scarlet oracle]

If that doesn't work, try just pasting it without extracting.

[noble terrace]

it works, let me enjoying the mod in sandbox

[scarlet oracle]

D:

[obsidian spade]

feel free to rename it however

its just the idea of shooting ion batteries turned into explosives/missiles

[fickle nebula]

I just saw the mod on github that is working on new turrets

[scarlet oracle]

Yep! New turret coming in a bit.

[fickle nebula]

I love mods that add lots of cool and interesting turrets

[scarlet oracle]

The Inoculate is here! It fires piercing lances that frag off into homing bullets.

[fickle nebula]

Very cool, it looks like an end game turret, I really liked this one

[scarlet oracle]

Thank you! Funnily enough, it's only a lategame turret - I've still got Bismuth, Biskonium, Boron, and Bintubite-tier turrets to make. Hopefully those are more flashy!

[fickle nebula]

Well, you can follow my previous ideas if you want, but you can change some things like the heat ray I mentioned before, it can be an end game turret with high damage to focus on enemies
only large ones with more health, and plasma shotgun turrets could be a good option for the mid or early game where it can use a lot of energy or some gas to function, I think there was a lack of more options for liquid and energy turrets

If you need it I have 2 more ideas for endgame turrets

[scarlet oracle]

Yes please! Chances are, I might go back and make a few more turrets, even after I'm already done with the four aforementioned turrets.

[obsidian spade]

maybe long-range artillery shells that frag into those fuse lasers?

[scarlet oracle]

I do like that idea, but it might end up too similar to the Mantle. I'll try regardless!

[obsidian spade]

oh okay

i was just generally thinking about making use of those things that fuse produces when shooting

[fickle nebula]

1 a beam of radiation that projects a conical or wide beam that damages all enemies within the beam area, whether it would be very good against swarms, it can consume power or heat or ion batteries or something like that. 2 a medium-range cannon that fires a sequence of 3 fast, high-damage projectiles that when colliding with an enemy releases some fuse-like beams, this can use methane and ammunition or something like that. These two can be 4x4 or 5x5

[fickle nebula]

I forgot to mention that the radiation beam is transparent and you can use an ion solution if you want

[surreal narwhal]

This is one of the more polished mods out there. Good job and keep it up

[manic merlin]

👆

[scarlet oracle]

Thank you!

[fickle nebula]

I agree a lot, this mod is well made with interesting mechanics and well polished

I really want to play this mod's campaign, it looks like it's going to be interesting and even challenging

[scarlet oracle]

I hope I can make it so! I have a lot of ideas for the campaign planned out, but upon re-reviewing some old concepts, many of them don't align with the mod's current vision. If anyone has any sector ideas, let me know!

[surreal narwhal]

ssus

[scarlet oracle]

The Expulse is here! It fires recursive cluster bombs at nearby foes.

[fickle nebula]

cool, I even liked it, what will be the next turret

[scarlet oracle]

I'm not sure yet.

[fickle nebula]

I think I'm missing some 3x3 turrets or a 5x5 one if you want, or even another 4x4, you can use the ideas we gave there and you can change my ideas into something you think is best, the mod is yours, do whatever you want with it

[scarlet oracle]

The remaining three turrets will all be 5x5.

[fickle nebula]

All these ideas I gave here could be very powerful 5x5, what I thought and said here is that they would be 5x5 but I didn't know if I wanted to have 5x5 turrets in the mod

but still for me I think it would be cool to have an extra 3x3 turret

[scarlet oracle]

I don't want the early game to have content bloat.

[fickle nebula]

ok but what I thought would be a 3x3 more mid game turret not much for the beginning of the game, what I thought would be more of a variation of sizes of mid and end game turrets,but the mod is yours, do it your way with whatever you want

[scarlet oracle]

I personally want to make turrets get bigger as you go further into the game. It also gives me more room for details on the sprites, as well as more moving parts.

[fickle nebula]

Well, do you already know what to do or do you still need ideas?

[scarlet oracle]

One or two wouldn't hurt.

[manic merlin]

shotgun turret

[fickle nebula]

this is a literaly a shotgun,I think this one would be cooler to be 3x3 or 4x4

but I think it would be cooler to suggest more end game 5x5 turrets

[scarlet oracle]

Ooh! Yeah.

[scarlet oracle]

I didn't quite get that vibe from it. I thought you wanted it to be similar to the Dilapidate's lefthand weapon.

[fickle nebula]

Explaining it another way, it would be a turret that would be a shotgun with well-dispersed mini plasma balls, it would be a good anti-air and anti-swarm

[scarlet oracle]

I'm sick today. Probably won't be able to make anything.

[manic merlin]

get well soon

[scarlet oracle]

Thanks!

[fickle nebula]

I would say the same

[fickle nebula]

When I went to download this mod because I deleted my mods folder, I saw that there will be new things maybe today, I didn't expect that

[scarlet oracle]

Not today, tomorrow - I made the sprites today, but I'm sick and don't feel like implementing it until tomorrow.

[scarlet oracle]

The Adumbrate is here! It fires homing shotgun rounds. It also has a halo.

[surreal narwhal]

ssus

[spark venture]

cool but isn't it too many?

[surreal narwhal]

ngl I would like to see some knockback too

[scarlet oracle]

The damage is fine, if that's what you mean. I liked the look of having lots of bullets.

[scarlet oracle]

I think I'll add that, yeah.

[fickle nebula]

I like it

[scarlet oracle]

Done.

[surreal narwhal]

looking great

how does it do with 10 of them?

[scarlet oracle]

As in ten turrets?

[surreal narwhal]

yes

[scarlet oracle]

It ends up knocking it back about ten times as much. I forgot to record it. Oops.

[fickle nebula]

I think this mod is still missing an energy turret but I really liked the turrets in this mod

[fickle nebula]

my favorite is this

[scarlet oracle]

Most of these turrets primarily use energy. Other ones use energy and items, such as the Adumbrate, which discharges Ion Batteries and recycles their casing. I will not be adding any pure-energy turrets because they remove logistical challenges and are too easy to spam.

[fickle nebula]

What else I think would be cool would be one that uses energy and gas or liquid maybe

or energy and heat if you want,but I liked that you used ion batteries in this turret, we were already asking for that,I think ion batteries can be very useful in this mod

[scarlet oracle]

There likely won't be any heat turrets. This is mostly because the only method of heating is via Oxygen in a 7x7 building, and that's intentional.

[manic merlin]

there's a lot of bullets and it looks nice

[surreal narwhal]

ssus

[thin sapphire]

I love it

Awesome job

[scarlet oracle]

Thank you!

[thin sapphire]

You're welcome 🙂

[scarlet oracle]

There might not be a new turret today. I'm still sick, and also suffering from burnout. Can't think of any new turret shapes nor projectile ideas.

[thin sapphire]

It's alright, i can dump some ideas in the channel if you want
Can't do anything about being sick tho. I can wish you to get better soon tho, and advise you to rest and relax.

If the ideas don't come, don't squeeze yourself too hard, they'll come eventually.

[scarlet oracle]

Thank you! Yeah, ideas would be appreciated. 😄

[thin sapphire]

I'll warn you, idk everything there already is in the mod, because i didn't get the chance to see all the videos, so some stuff might be repeated. But I'll try to be original.

Weird turret that, instead of shooting projectiles instantly, actually behaves like a "platform" which summons a bunch of orbs. The orbs are not moving at the beggining, but then they quickly accelerate and home towards the enemy.

Another one would be a sort of "box" that unfolds, to reveal a missile/grenade launcher. It throws projectiles that travel quickly, not homing, and upon impact leave a puddle of igniting liquid, essentially behaving as some sort of napalm bomber.

Also thought of an EMP slingshot/railgun. Not a regular railgun like foreshadow, but one that accelerates a projectile with magnets and catapults it towards the enemy, creating a huge paralyzing area and electroshocks. Main difference with the foreshadow is the shift from a focus on "single unit heavy damage" to "huge area, mid damage, big debuffs"

Other one i thought about is a sort of liquid/gas splasher, but not like tsunami. It doesnt eject a jet stream, but an aerol cloud that travels quickly and in an angle, like the diffuse. The liquid cloud corrodes, slows down, and damages enemies over a long span. Excellent against armies crouded with small units as the gas cloud pierces the large ones to hit the small ones behind.

Will think of more later on, busy rn

These aren't the best, just some quick brainstorming to be polished

[scarlet oracle]

A lot of those things seem difficult to implement in JSON, but I'll try!

[surreal narwhal]

Nuh

These are relatively simple

[stray hollow]

^

[scarlet oracle]

I guess for the poison cloud, repeatedly spawning fragBullets that deal AoE damage, but the rest do seem difficult - it might be a skill issue, though.

For example, I don't know how to get a regular BasicBulletType to produce a puddle of liquid. Come to think of it, I could also use a fragBullet for that, but I'm still sick and don't really want to think too hard about that, lol.

[scarlet oracle]

The Enfilade is here. It fires piercing explosive rounds at nearby foes. It also has a neat halo.

Here's a close-up of the halo.

[manic merlin]

question
do they explode when they pierce

[surreal narwhal]

dont use fragBullets use intervalBullets that do AOE damage

the main bullet is not targetable/collidable and is invisible

[scarlet oracle]

That's what I meant.

[scarlet oracle]

Yep!

[scarlet oracle]

I can't seem to say things correctly, oftentimes.

[obsidian spade]

spectre counterpart, i like it

[scarlet oracle]

Thank you!

[scarlet oracle]

Today, I might make the final turret. I might also not make any new turrets - I'm not sure if Bintubite needs to be more gamebreaking.

[scarlet oracle]

I have decided not to make a Bintubite-tier turret. Development will halt for some time as I recover mentally from working nonstop on this for months.

After that, I will likely be back in school. Thus, development time will be limited, and likely delegated to mapmaking.

I am personally opposed to releasing it. Releasing an unfinished, unpolished mod could tarnish its reputation, even once it is polished and finished.

[stray hollow]

I agree, releasing an unfinished mod is not a good idea, especially not a campaign mod.

[noble terrace]

na'uh, we'll wait until it is finished

[stray hollow]

Nuh uh

What do you mean "nuh uh"?!

[noble terrace]

= Nope

or = No

[stray hollow]

I am aware, I was quoting a meme

[noble terrace]

Abyssus looks like i beating a New Horizon but in Medium Threat

[scarlet oracle]

A hint at what's to come.

[surreal narwhal]

uhh why not merge some of those?

this works yk

[scarlet oracle]

I know that you can do it in a more compact manner, but I both like how this looks and understand it more easily in this format.

[surreal narwhal]

ye thats fine. I was just saying you could merge the build count things

thats a lot

[surreal narwhal]

I also absolutely love the springs lmao

Im not the only one

[scarlet oracle]

The Demarked sector is here. It's the tutorial, and thus, very easy. There is also zero enemy presence - it serves solely as an introductory map, allowing the player to acclimate to Abyssus's environment, as well as build a large factory to get the hang of stackable designs.

[manic merlin]

wait
so its physically impossible to mess up?
neat

[karmic lark]

Hey just asking what program do you use for making sfx?

[scarlet oracle]

I get free sounds from https://freesound.org.

[scarlet oracle]

Yep. Later sectors won't be so forgiving - they may take ten, or even twenty tries to complete.

[karmic lark]

Nice thanks but do you know any sound editor

[noble terrace]

"or even twenty tries" Guud lord man 💀

[scarlet oracle]

I don't know of any good ones, because I haven't used any.

[brave garden]

ffmpeg and hexedit(real)

convert into wav

hexedit

since wav is just raw samples

you can just edit the samples

[scarlet oracle]

The Namesake sector is here. It's the player's first glimpse of the enemy - small scouting parties are being sent to investigate the player's presence. It also unlocks Magnesium.

[manic merlin]

Question. Will the player unlock the first turret at Demaker on Namesake?

[scarlet oracle]

Namesake. The first sector's called Demarked, not Demaker.

[manic merlin]

i can't spell I see.

[scarlet oracle]

real

[scarlet oracle]

The Forked sector is here. It allows the player to construct the Dissipate, as well as it having two separate spawns. You can't get away with one line of defense, though - both spawns are placed in such a way to where having one defense is quite difficult.

[manic merlin]

I only see one spawn on the preview.

[scarlet oracle]

There's one on the left and one on the right.

Is it different in-game? I'd hope not - my aim isn't for it to have two separate potential spawns, I want it to always have both.

[obsidian spade]

how do you do that potential spawns thing anyway

[thin sapphire]

It's cool, but doesnt look noisy at all

Is it on purpose?

Like, its cloudy smooth and the biome borders are very fixed

[scarlet oracle]

It looks noisier ingame - the editor portrait is compressed, for some reason.

Presumably so that all map icons are the same size.

[thin sapphire]

Oh, alr

Weird

[thin sapphire]

That makes sense

[dapper yarrow]

🍴

[ionic crescent]

🍽️

[rustic holly]

Seeing the factories size, what size would the late game maps be?, and what size is that map currently? And do u pretend to make space a struggle(as in preserve and organize or u suffer) or no, just a few questions i had seeing the factories size(8x8 is no joke)

[noble terrace]

new horizon mentioned || or probably Exo ||

[rustic holly]

The bigger blocks are literally 9x9

[scarlet oracle]

The current maps range from 200x200 to 260x260. Late-game maps could be as large as 600x600 - things get more space-efficient as you go on.

[rustic holly]

Makes sense

Considering that, it means efficient schems are essential

[scarlet oracle]

Yep, as is intentional - some early-game schematics come prepackaged with the mod to give new players an idea of what a good schematic looks like.

[rustic holly]

Nice, any idea for ehich month its gonna release or what you eant finished before releasing?

Since it appears the tech tree is finished

And the fact that this mods focuses on the factory side of mindustry a lot makes me really excited for it

[scarlet oracle]

No idea for when the campaign will be finished. Could be as short as two months, could be as long as a year.

[scarlet oracle]

Thank you!

[rustic holly]

Np, good luck!

[scarlet oracle]

I won't be able to develop the mod today.

The bleeding edge builds crash on startup right now. Thus, I am unable to launch the game.

[ionic crescent]

ok, i though only i have crashing, 25115 wont crash

[scarlet oracle]

I know, but 25116 does, and downgrading is problematic on MacOS.

[ionic crescent]

🆗

[surreal narwhal]

Ssus

[brave garden]

missing nullchecks yipee

(yes it was all because of the missing nullchecks)

[scarlet oracle]

pain

[brave garden]

now millions must wait for anuke to fix

and then update by hand

[brave garden]

the new BE is building

IT HAS BEEN DONE

[scarlet oracle]

hooray

[obsidian spade]

i forgot how you get BE

[brave garden]

https://github.com/Anuken/MindustryBuilds/releases

[surreal narwhal]

ssus

[obsidian spade]

oh, separate repo. neat

[scarlet oracle]

As it turns out, I still cannot play. This time, the game crashes when I try to save a map.

Undoing an hour of progress.

[rustic holly]

Pain.

[scarlet oracle]

Unexpected IRL stuff has came up. Nothing will be done tomorrow, even if this is fixed.

[scarlet oracle]

Specifically, someone has been abusing me for years and I am done with their shit.

[obsidian spade]

best of luck

[scarlet oracle]

Thank you.

[rustic holly]

Hope everything went well!

[scarlet oracle]

Things are still yet to go in the first place.

I forgot to clarify.

[rustic holly]

Hope everything goes well then, and good luck!

[scarlet oracle]

Thank you.

[rustic holly]

How did it go? No need for personal details of course.

[scarlet oracle]

It hasn't, yet. Yesterday was a rough ETA.

Please stop asking for details. This is a difficult part of my life, and I don't need people I've never met asking me about it.

[stray hollow]

I probably wouldn't even have mentioned anything about this here in the first place

[rustic holly]

I didnt mean for it to go off like that, im sorry.

[surreal narwhal]

ssus

[scarlet oracle]

Can you please stop? I don't like hearing that every day and I'm going through a difficult period of my life right now.

And I'm sorry if it comes off as rude. It's hard for me to word things properly right now.

[surreal narwhal]

Aby

[surreal narwhal]

If it makes you feel better every time I say it I’m playing to mod :)

[scarlet oracle]

Good to know.

[surreal narwhal]

Also congrats on 33 👍

[rustic holly]

U can alr get it?

How

[scarlet oracle]

On the GitHub. Download it as a zip, or go ingame > import via GitHub.

[scarlet oracle]

Thanks.

[rustic holly]

Ty

[scarlet oracle]

The Derelict Alloymaking Complex sector is here. It contains several ruined factories that formerly produced Thermic Alloy, of which is locked behind this sector.

[manic merlin]

derelict buildings being used to tell a story? peak

[rustic holly]

Nice, looks really fun to play

[scarlet oracle]

Thanks.

In the near future, the other three sectors will get a ruin revamp.

[scarlet oracle]

Forgot to mention - in that case, it's fine - I didn't know.

[surreal narwhal]

nah you good

didnt mean to stress you out

[scarlet oracle]

The Ambush sector is here. It is the first challenging sector the player will encounter, with all three offensive unit trees attacking at once. Not only that, but you have to defend yourself from three potential angles of attack, while simultaneously managing your low power production capabilities until the sector is captured.

The enemy will not let up. Planning is advised.

[manic merlin]

suffering? YEAH!

[karmic lark]

[noble terrace]

of course, i do love that kind of ||painfull|| strat

[scenic robin]

@scarlet oracle is thee ambush sector supposed to require 2850 tungsten?

none of the sectors beforehand seem to have a second core i can place and the max a core can have is 2400

unless im missing something

got all the research done upto that point

[scarlet oracle]

That's due to the starter base - that's a mistake on my end! Oops.

It's fixed now - update the mod, and you should be good to go.

I apologize for the inconvenience.

[scenic robin]

its alrightt

thanks for taking your time to look into the problem in the first place

[scarlet oracle]

I ended up increasing core capacity. I can't really make the early-game any cheaper than it already is without having balancing problems as a result, hence the increase.

Thanks for playing!

[scarlet oracle]

There might be a new map today, there might not. It depends on how much time I have.

[rustic holly]

Schrondiger's map, also been playing the mod, very promising and fun

[scarlet oracle]

Thanks!

[rustic holly]

Im became severely depressed after leatning the t2 drill ratio

Aside from that ambush is a very fun map

Very balanced

I required two tried to beat it.

[obsidian spade]

I went through the maps and they're fun, a lot of content just explodes out.of nowhere at ambush

[scarlet oracle]

Yeah, that will be dealt with later. I can't lock things behind sectors that don't exist.

The next sector will simply unlock carbide, and the one after that, aeroframe.

[obsidian spade]

also the alloymaking complex starts out with 100 copper, might wanna fix the loadout

[scarlet oracle]

Oh shit! Thank you.

[obsidian spade]

np

[scarlet oracle]

Hard for me to remember those kinds of things.

[obsidian spade]

yeah bugs happen

[scarlet oracle]

Thanks for the heads-up - it's fixed now.

[scarlet oracle]

I think the main problem is that I condensed the progression too much. Lithium, Aeroframe, and Carbide are all unlocked at or around the time you unlock Cobalt progression-wise - I'm not sure which approach to take for fixing that.

Aeroframe is locked behind Lithium, so I can't lock Lithium behind the Pyrovat.

[scarlet oracle]

I could lock Carbide behind Aeroframe and reverse the order of these two, but I don't like the sound of that.

[obsidian spade]

multicrafter might be an issue since i dont think you can lock recipes there

[scarlet oracle]

That is true.

Hence why I am looking for MultiCrafterLib alternatives. It's quite buggy and also limited in functionality.

[rustic holly]

Tru, the content boom on ambush caught me off guard

However considering multicrafter uniqueness and the fact it already fills that gap, alternatives are unlikely, meaning u would have to stick to multi lib, or make your own which is time consuming and hard however can be as flexible as you need it to be.

[obsidian spade]

i might consider doing that when im done with my project/need a break from it

[scarlet oracle]

The problem is that this is a JSON mod, and I am completely clueless regarding Java.

[surreal narwhal]

Don’t succumb to multicrafter

It’s not worth it and it’s buggy

Multicrafter is not unique

[scarlet oracle]

I know, and I don't know of any alternative multi-recipe crafter library mods.

If anybody has made one, or seen one, please tell me.

[obsidian spade]

i am probably going to make a better multicrafter

specifically one that you don't need to select recipes for

it just accepts all the items and turns them to what it can

[scarlet oracle]

A sneak peek at what's to come.

[scarlet oracle]

The Upwell sector is here. The player will be forced to face two enemy bases at once, with only one of them producing units.

The top base's defenses are overwhelming, whilst the bottom base is only accessible by mechs and insectoids. To defeat the top base, one must upgrade the core and use the extra unit capacity - a regular attack will not do.

It unlocks Lithium, and by extension, Aeroframe.

[obsidian spade]

cool

[karmic lark]

Coool

[surreal narwhal]

Ssus

[ionic crescent]

cuuul

[dapper yarrow]

GET OUT OF MY HEAD 😭

[split musk]

We need to make every modded planet have sus at the end

[ionic crescent]

why no exogenesus 😭 😭 😭

[surreal narwhal]

Mindsustry

Exogenosus

[scarlet oracle]

Asthosus.

[rustic holly]

Get out of my head...

[dapper yarrow]

amogus is everywhere again 😭

[ionic crescent]

pure recreation of amogus

[thin sapphire]

Suspulo

Sussykir

Tantsus

[manic merlin]

vesperiasus

[scarlet oracle]

The Vaporizer is here. It's a fairly simple block - you can incinerate items and liquids with it. However, it requires 600/s power.

Don't mind the small flame. I can't resize that - it's hard-coded.

The Harrowed Canyon sector is also here. It's a cramped, yet resource-rich canyon, teeming with enemies - you will be assaulted on a scale never seen before.

It unlocks Carbide production, and the powerful military capabilities that come with it.

[spark venture]

Yay, new content

[scarlet oracle]

The mod should be playable again. Sorry for the hold-up.

Notice

I will be hosting a public playtest of the mod's current sectors on <t:1722096000:R>. This time is already localized and does not need to be converted to your timezone.

During this playtest, we will attempt to stress-test the mod, alongside diagnose any balancing concerns I have missed.

If you want to join, perform the following steps:

• Download the Bleeding Edge version of the game from https://github.com/Anuken/MindustryBuilds/releases and ensure it works correctly.
• Go to Mods > Import > GitHub and type overdramaticpanromantic/abyssus. My mod can not be found on the browser yet!
• Repeat the previous step for liplum/MultiCrafterLib and xzxADIxzx/Scheme-Size-Lite
• With the dependencies satisfied, ask me for the CLaJ code on the provided date at the provided time. This code will be publicly posted in the Abyssus server, but if you cannot, or do not want to, join said server, I will provide it in DMs - just ask me first.
• Launch the game by opening the .jar you installed in step one. Go to Play > Join Game > Join via CLaJ Link.
• Paste the CLaJ link I provided in the server/DMs into the text box that pops up. It should allow you to connect.

[scarlet oracle]

I'm not sure what to do with this mod. MultiCrafterLib is inherently limited. There's nothing I can do about it - Lithium is unlockable several sectors before it should be. There's genuinely no way for me to fix it other than either swapping mods entirely or making a ton of new processing facilities. Such an undertaking would mean reworking the entire mod, from the ground up, scrapping every single bit of what I have now, only saving the sprites.

I go back to school in a week. I don't have the time for that. I either need an alternative, or for the MultiCrafterLib devs to get their shit together and fix the mod. The game only checks for if a material has been produced to unlock it, and doesn't acknowledge any other requirements in the research object. This completely breaks everything.

If the mod is reworked, it will take a very long time. And the mod will be unplayable until then.

I'm sorry, y'all.

[surreal narwhal]

may I present a solution?

objectives:[
{
type:SectorComplete
preset: mapname
}
]

or
objectives: [
item,
liquid,
block,
{
type: produce
content: item
}
{
type: onSector
preset: map
}
{
type: onPlanet
planet: planet
}
]

literally every objective you could use

@scarlet oracle hope this helps

[scarlet oracle]

those don't work

the game only checks production

and never anything else for item unlocks

[scarlet oracle]

More specifically, I'm using OnSector.

I have also tried SectorComplete to no avail.

[surreal narwhal]

you cant do that with resources silly

only blocks units and sectors

[scarlet oracle]

Yeah, I know. That's the problem.

Due to MultiCrafterLib not allowing you to lock recipes, I can't force the player to wait until a certain sector.

[surreal narwhal]

mmm. I could help yk

[scarlet oracle]

That would be appreciated, but I'm not sure how you could help. It's pretty much entirely an issue with the MultiCrafterLib devs not working on it - Jojo is busy, so that's understandable, but Liplum has no excuse from what I can tell.

That being said, even if said help doesn't work out in the end, it's still appreciated.

I'm glad people care enough about this mod to offer it.

[surreal narwhal]

How does your multicrafting work btw?

You input a different item or an extra item to get a item

I done forgor

[scarlet oracle]

MultiCrafterLib's multi-crafters work by having you select a recipe by clicking on the block and selecting one of the UI blocks that pops down. Once you select one, the block's recipe changes to that, and it will output the desired item if the proper inputs are given.

[royal vault]

https://tenor.com/view/fire-writing-gif-2088247993237804628

what did i just see

[scarlet oracle]

I don't think this mod is salvageable in my eyes.

It is inherently flawed - I based it around a system that has already been done to death (i.e. Factorio) and I am paying for it. I don't personally believe there is any recovering from the issues multi-crafters bring up, and I would be better off creating a separate mod and learning some things from this one.

For example, I have learnt a lot about block and unit spriting while working on this mod. While I'm still mediocre at best regarding spriting as a whole, I can definitely make a workable end product visually speaking. I have also learnt a lot about balancing, as the months I spent thinking about it for this mod have sharpened my eye for potential issues that are better to proactively fix, rather than reactively.

I can reuse assets from this mod, namely block sprites. It is unlikely that I'll reuse any unit sprites, but my methodology for making said units will be somewhat similar, still. I already have a plan for said planet - it would be earthlike with some, but not a ton of life, alongside petrochem logistics and needing to move a lot of fluids from point A to point B. It would probably be called Cudera.

Such a replacement mod would be developed more slowly - I would take my time to perfect it, as opposed to the rushed approach I took for Abyssus.

[surreal narwhal]

then why make a poll? Im my eyes you have made your starter mod. Abyssus is a good mod but I do see what you mean

Aquarion has been remade 3 times now

each better and better

might as well be completely different mods

I hope people have the same opinion and support you in allowing you to progress further

[scarlet oracle]

I made a poll to see what people think, regardless of whether or not I will act upon it. I want to know what people think I did well, alongside what people think I should have spent more time improving. That way, I can apply these lessons to my next mod.

Abyssus is indeed my starter mod. I'm happy with how most of it turned out, but the progression is definitely flawed.

[scarlet oracle]

Thank you. It means a ton to me.

[surreal narwhal]

reminder that aquarion looked like this after 1.0

[scarlet oracle]

Some more details, in case anyone finds them appealing:

• Cudera would be earthlike, but with no liquid water. Rather, organisms would need to melt water to use it in their metabolic processes.
• There would be many plastic materials, alongside petrochemical logistics. Lots of fluid transport to deal with.
• It would have RimWorld references, i.e. plasteel and vanometrics.
• Living creatures would need to be harnessed for their products, i.e. certain insects being cultivated for the cerumen they build their hives with.

[obsidian spade]

(maybe sneak in a lack of oxygen? I really like the idea that what cyanobacteria did on earth is quite rare)

(some other gas could exist in the atmosphere that would lighten the limitations a bit, like fluorine or smth)

[scarlet oracle]

I do plan on that, yes. Microorganisms only, with insects being biocultivated by the Sharded.

Cue mass ecosystemic havoc because a research & reconnoisance AI doesn't know anything about balance in an ecosystem.

[stray hollow]

To be honest, if you yourself are already pretty much solid on what you want to do, I also do not see the point in this vote.

I hope that you allow yourself to progress even if this vote turns out to have a different winning option.

Use some of the cool concepts of Abyssus and implement them into a cooler mod that has less of the flaws you experienced.

Making a mod that is flawless is impossible after all but continuing to create and develop a mod that you, yourself are not happy with or can't save is not worth it in my opinion.

[dapper yarrow]

⚰️

[surreal narwhal]

Then rebirth

Farewell ssus you have been fun

[dapper yarrow]

Sus

[split musk]

🫡

[spark venture]

See ya in next mod👋

[karmic lark]

Farewell this has been a great mod

🫡

[scarlet oracle]

Thank you, everyone, for playing.

A thread for Cudera will be made at some point in the near future.

[dapper yarrow]

Cudera1?1!1? Caldera reference?1!1