#Tantros-test updates and development

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upbeat aurora
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in the image above this is the planet I have been messing with, even making glaciers

rotund cove
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cool planet

upbeat aurora
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Tantros-test updates and development

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doing minor sprite fixes/balancing. Should the hydroxide reactor make heat?

upbeat aurora
upbeat aurora
regal junco
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port to java death 👍

minor orchid
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port to mlog

viscid belfry
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twcash is moving to java

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lets goooooo

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he has reached true enlightment

ebon rapids
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unreal

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another joins the java cult

short night
upbeat aurora
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so far the port to java is not winning

short night
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port to java

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or we will bean you

upbeat aurora
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then vote /:

short night
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you must port to java

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or you will be beaned

upbeat aurora
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theres a vote here

short night
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its time to prepare the java beaner

regal junco
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java is winning

upbeat aurora
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FYI this will take a VERY long time to do

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ima start preparing then

short night
regal junco
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spore biomechs has been porting since early 2024

upbeat aurora
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I regret doing the port to java choice now

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also why would people vote for 1

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most people have issues with the js code

upbeat aurora
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more balance changes

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the reaction heater will make a little bit more hydrogen and crafttime slightly increased

viscid belfry
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Billions must ascend to java

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Peak of enlightenment

upbeat aurora
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in turn I will make a new craft effect

upbeat aurora
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heating is an issue in tantros rn

upbeat aurora
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screw it ima do it anyways

short night
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peakest of enlightment

viscid belfry
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Ascend to c++

upbeat aurora
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hell nah java aint happening

viscid belfry
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Ascend to post-enlightmenr

short night
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you must

viscid belfry
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Traitor

upbeat aurora
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jesus I just tried something and failed miserably

viscid belfry
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You must be executed by firing squad

short night
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its time to bean this man

upbeat aurora
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look I was working on porting the factories over and it took 30 minutes to do a build

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then there was a bug

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the effects did not work

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and tantros did not work

short night
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if yes mission succesful

upbeat aurora
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they were broken and just making stuff on their own

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idk how to java at all

short night
upbeat aurora
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I already deleted the whole repository 🧱

viscid belfry
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No that's bad

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You must keep the repo up

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So we could dig up the 🐛

upbeat aurora
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there is no more js in this mod

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the planets current looks is subject to change

tough wind
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glowning water ranaimiddle

upbeat aurora
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tantros is a water planet so I reduced glacier count

rotund cove
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i imagine a sector where there's an island in the middle of the map and you have to build around it

upbeat aurora
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technically thats what the walls are

scenic basin
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wait that means theres loads of land

upbeat aurora
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not on the surface

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just looks like lots of trenches underwater

green remnant
tough wind
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I'm taking about that

upbeat aurora
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also glacier count drastically reduced

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im also going to work on the research

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along with new core unit sprites+t2 core aong with it's unit

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the core: cuesta will also be moved to the t3 core

upbeat aurora
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force barriers added

viscid belfry
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nooooo the vote is gone 👿

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did yuo abandoned the coffee port

regal junco
short night
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we must java beaner him

viscid belfry
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we must exile him to the java realm

upbeat aurora
ebon rapids
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get the pitchforks!!

upbeat aurora
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If anything I’ll start a new mod for me to specifically use Java

ebon rapids
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the torches!!

upbeat aurora
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Not a preexisting one

viscid belfry
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I will get the fork

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we must banish him to the java realm

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forced java learning

upbeat aurora
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I hope you know that I have been trying to learn Java

viscid belfry
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real

ebon rapids
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(yeah we're clearly joking lmao)

viscid belfry
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yes

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im always been joking

upbeat aurora
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I do know but I’m stroke remember

viscid belfry
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yuo have a stroke!?

upbeat aurora
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No

viscid belfry
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real

upbeat aurora
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Apparently that’s what I’m called in #serpulo-balancing now

upbeat aurora
short night
viscid belfry
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mkae your own engrish

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🧌

upbeat aurora
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more balancing tweaks

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ram drill and rotary drill consumption has been lowered and has better ratios

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hydrogen speciffic ratios are important due to a hazardous power source being the main current source

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rotary drill ratios

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coming up soon will be a better way to get nitrogen

viscid belfry
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when can we get

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water molecules

upbeat aurora
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you are surrounded by them

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they are everywhere

scenic basin
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but how do we get them

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i need water

scenic basin
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dang

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i cant even count how much water

upbeat aurora
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after many bugfixes the 4 campaign maps of tantros are fully playable

scenic basin
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yay

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wait what orbit is tantros 2 in

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the same as the built in one?

upbeat aurora
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No it’s a bit different

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Bit closer to the sun

upbeat aurora
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first tantros attack map test and it is more spagghetti than ever

native sapphire
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I have an idea for t3-t5 factories. Instead of assemblers and things like that. What if you build the entire unit as a box and when you supply the box some liquid after its done building a unit will pop out

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And then you have to repeat the entire process

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Because I've seen some of the later game units and it's possible that you could make it quality over quantity; unlike serpulo, which is the opposite

viscid belfry
upbeat aurora
viscid belfry
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show

upbeat aurora
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I’m not on pc but

upbeat aurora
viscid belfry
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seashell

upbeat aurora
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A lot of it doesn’t work bc the person is problably a little too good at imitating crux building

viscid belfry
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why is there alphaaaaaaaa

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unreal

upbeat aurora
viscid belfry
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rea

native sapphire
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Uh oh, I spilt a bunch of brine

scenic basin
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oopsies

native sapphire
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Yeah, I gotta stop doing that

scenic basin
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molus

native sapphire
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Ooohhhh

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Tons of molus

vivid lava
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this block is the bane of my existience
3x3 with 3 tiles for heat output, and 4 required for I/O, 7 spots in total

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is there a larger reaction heater

upbeat aurora
upbeat aurora
vivid lava
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ight

upbeat aurora
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planning on more heat blocks in the future btw

vivid lava
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just treating them like a normal factory I came up with this
it's physically impossible to compact without spacee inbetween and harvest all products unless im missing some sorter tech

vivid lava
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tried sorters last time and they still take a space to the side

upbeat aurora
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heres a scheme I use

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there should be a sorter at the end /:

low monolithBOT
upbeat aurora
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here

vivid lava
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wil give it a shot, thanks

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gallium ammo range seems to beb roken

upbeat aurora
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idk what was wrong but reinstall

vivid lava
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aight

native sapphire
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Can you buff t0-t1 units? Other than the green land unit they are all pretty weak

upbeat aurora
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they are cheap for a reason

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I did make an oopsie with zoarcid though

native sapphire
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Yeah

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I guess

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But you should at least nerf the range of the green land unit

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I just did a playthrough of the new map I was making and they completely cheesed it

upbeat aurora
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green lad is experimental

native sapphire
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Yeah

vivid lava
vivid lava
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ah oki

vivid lava
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Subduction zone... autocaptures?

upbeat aurora
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Im working on "tanttros-test 2.0"

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which is mainly gonna be QOL things and 5 more campaign maps

vivid lava
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oh ok

native sapphire
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5 more?

upbeat aurora
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yes

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I already have 3

vivid lava
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I really like the changes made to subduction zone :D

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feels a lot less empty

north goblet
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it shouldn't affect my main saves if I downloaded the mod right?

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I wanna try this for a bit

north goblet
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i like how the build speed is quite fast for turrets

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but holy shit are the t1 units very stronk

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I got wiped on first try

upbeat aurora
north goblet
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not really

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I just got surprised with how strong the early guardian and the t1 units strength

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I really should've really used the conveyor as a makeshift wall

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also, having lead so far on the starting area is bad

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its aight

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but ig its just me who wants to just mindlessly mine nearby so I don't have to drag back to core to deposit

upbeat aurora
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you can mine and it goes into the core

north goblet
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it goes there?

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huh...

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I didn't realize

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anyways, how do I make the cargo unit heal?

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also, is the t1 supposed to not be able to attack a core?

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they target other buildings just fine

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but they ignore my core

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only the guardian destroyed the core

upbeat aurora
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air units get distracted by other buildings

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targetFlags in 2.0 will fix this issue

viscid belfry
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watahel 20k

upbeat aurora
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dont mind that

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monarch is very WIP

north goblet
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Ill keep playing the mod till I can can form a good understanding of it

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unit mining speed is okay

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build speed is actually not that bad

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but ig its just early game buildings so I don't have much info bout that

short night
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funny anuke messup

viscid belfry
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nukea

upbeat aurora
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WIP steward

viscid belfry
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can I eat it

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green thing tasty

upbeat aurora
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damage increased to show weapons btw

formal tangle
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posting to sub to the thread

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as usual this looks rather balanced lol

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really like the triple fire

native sapphire
scenic basin
rotund cove
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it think that's just air

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a crater

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nothing

native sapphire
rotund cove
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i know that because i made an issue on github about the holes, and the dev said it was intentional

native sapphire
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It's not a bad addition really

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It's just... nothing

upbeat aurora
north goblet
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its a bit op kinda

upbeat aurora
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oh I am guessing you just started using them

upbeat aurora
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you will learn just how janky they are

viscid belfry
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supply depot

upbeat aurora
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honestly the cargo drone is so janky Im looking for some sort of replacement

north goblet
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yeah, they're kinda janky

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they honestly have no other purpose early game aside from ammo delivery for defense

native sapphire
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Lol, i even have a video showing how janky they are

native sapphire
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Plans to add a soundtrack?

upbeat aurora
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Prob not

upbeat aurora
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idea for t3-5's in tantros

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proccessors and such will be added in due time

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however they could be intertwined with unit production such as small procs being a component in t3 production

viscid belfry
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processor?!?!

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logic proc abuse time 🤑

upbeat aurora
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doubt you could use logic procs for anything above telling units to go to a factory you want

upbeat aurora
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both logic canvas's and displays will be in tantros

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there will also be memory banks and ect and those too will be needed for unit production

north goblet
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logic controlled unit prods can be very good to srsly teach ppl how to use procs

upbeat aurora
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thats why they will be included

north goblet
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though, introductory sector for logic learning has to be implemented

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forcefully

upbeat aurora
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though cargo units will have to be late game stuff to prevent certain abuses for now

north goblet
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big text in bold and unskippable too

upbeat aurora
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imagine a mod where you have to use proccessor to get units to pick up stuff and move it to the core just bc you dont have conveyors

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would be funny

north goblet
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that's pretty neat

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fck conveyors lmao

upbeat aurora
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who need conveyors when you have

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ik it has the wrong description

north goblet
vivid lava
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I swear I max drones in every sector lmfao

upbeat aurora
north goblet
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so op

vivid lava
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I think I might not be using them right

upbeat aurora
vivid lava
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cause the rate falls off with distance

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I keep using them with meta far away so they're never fast enough

upbeat aurora
north goblet
upbeat aurora
north goblet
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oh...

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shame...

upbeat aurora
north goblet
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for example cargo 1 and cargo 2

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u set cargo 1 pass to hi

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and dock to hi

upbeat aurora
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red cargo station blue cargo station ect

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?

north goblet
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yes, but more flexible

upbeat aurora
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sadly that would result in bllock bloat which I have been avoiding

north goblet
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only drones with 'hi' in their pass, will only go to docks with 'hi'

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damn shame....

upbeat aurora
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it is

north goblet
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color coded?

upbeat aurora
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I wish I could just make it like a sorter

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anyways

north goblet
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oh! how about ah sort of radar terminal controlled by logic

upbeat aurora
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this is hjson and sadly I cant implement everything I want

north goblet
upbeat aurora
viscid belfry
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make invisible unit that can only be detected by the logic radar

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forced logic usage

north goblet
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oh thats nice

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I approve

upbeat aurora
viscid belfry
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yuo must reach enlightment

north goblet
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well atleast make cargo controllable with logic

upbeat aurora
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Im still doing it

viscid belfry
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I mean

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ascend yuore mod to lava

upbeat aurora
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no

viscid belfry
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evil

upbeat aurora
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whats evil is

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just use blocks.java

viscid belfry
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sorting it is more funny

upbeat aurora
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theres such a thing such as //environment //crafters //units

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its not that hard

viscid belfry
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unitfactory and assembler still have to be stored as seperate file

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🧌

upbeat aurora
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are you sure?

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ok now Im gonna work on the unit assemblers for tantros

upbeat aurora
minor trout
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you should assembly drone your assembler NOW

short night
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that has water related keywords

native sapphire
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Also, why is this here

upbeat aurora
upbeat aurora
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2.0 fixes it

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proper drone sprites

native sapphire
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Ok

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I can't wait for 2.0

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What turret ideas do you have?

native sapphire
viscid belfry
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Wtahale logic proc required real

north goblet
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idk, the shape reminds me of a crawler

upbeat aurora
viscid belfry
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Floating crawl

upbeat aurora
viscid belfry
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Make a unit that require a core

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🧌

upbeat aurora
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catalyst makes the different unit trees for the assemblers

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however for certain units two catalysts will be required

north goblet
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proper sea mines?

viscid belfry
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I will put 1000 catalyst instead

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Yuo cannt stop me

viscid belfry
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The

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Invisible unit real

native sapphire
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I've got another map underway

viscid belfry
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Replace building and it's nearby blocks with the selected block

north goblet
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a shipyard is what's it's gonna be called

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for higher tier subs

viscid belfry
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Drugs

north goblet
north goblet
upbeat aurora
north goblet
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guh...

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spaghetti

upbeat aurora
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so making t3's will require much more resources to make (which is from sccratch but with 5x the cost)

viscid belfry
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Resource eater

north goblet
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siligone💀

upbeat aurora
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nitrigone

native sapphire
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It's going to be a pain making that in maps

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Like I'd almost want to just make t2s instead

upbeat aurora
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until you see the new turrets...

viscid belfry
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Make an end game map so you can unleash your racism

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Spam t5 🧌

north goblet
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bruh those turrets are no joke

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t1 especially is quite good

native sapphire
viscid belfry
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Unchese

native sapphire
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Actually

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If you make the maps right its kinda hard to cheese

upbeat aurora
native sapphire
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Is that a sniper?

upbeat aurora
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le chain shotgun

native sapphire
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Ohno

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Is it from france?

upbeat aurora
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no but it has 4 barrels (th picture doesnt have them)

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full turret

viscid belfry
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Most map on serp doesn't expect the player to cheese it

upbeat aurora
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the tantrosturrets are actually hard to cheese

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ignoring banshee

viscid belfry
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Banshee?1!1?1

upbeat aurora
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target ground is false???

viscid belfry
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Wacky ahh

native sapphire
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I think the banshee needs homing

viscid belfry
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Turn the bullet into scathe missile

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🧌

upbeat aurora
upbeat aurora
formal tangle
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wondering if tantros terrain features brine pools

upbeat aurora
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they have for a while

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its a way to get hydroxide

formal tangle
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awesome

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I really gotta make a big playthrough of your mod when it reaches a more stable state

upbeat aurora
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2.0 is about to come out finish the endgame and such

formal tangle
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nice

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I'll be sure to give it a shot then

native sapphire
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I'd wait for 2.0 though because it's adding a couple maps

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4-5

upbeat aurora
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more than a couple

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if he keeps pushing them out maybe 8

native sapphire
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Muhahahahhahahahaa

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I'm going to delay the release date indefinitely

upbeat aurora
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I aint gonna lie these are great maps

formal tangle
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i imagine you don't cover all the sectors of tantros with handmade sectors yet

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do you use numbered autogen sectors for the rest ?

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or just lock it off ?

upbeat aurora
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locked until I finish the generator

formal tangle
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sounds reasonable

native sapphire
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I literally handmade every map

upbeat aurora
native sapphire
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I might make a couple of those too

upbeat aurora
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you dont need to

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Im making a generator

native sapphire
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How many sectors does tantros have in total

upbeat aurora
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lets find out!

native sapphire
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I would love for tantros to become a fully functional campaign

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With a bunch of optional sectors too

formal tangle
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I feel like that's the endgoal

native sapphire
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Yeah

upbeat aurora
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theres about 100-110 sectors

native sapphire
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That's more than I thought

upbeat aurora
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your not handmaking every sector

native sapphire
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No?

upbeat aurora
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your not handmaking every numbered sector

native sapphire
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Ok

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Fine

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It's really good practice anyways

upbeat aurora
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I wish it was possible to make custom terrain generators in hjson

native sapphire
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Just generate serpulo sectors and replace the tiles

upbeat aurora
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again. not handmaking every numbered sector

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there will be a generator

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progress...

formal tangle
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but the hexagon shape looks awful

upbeat aurora
formal tangle
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yup, same problem here

native sapphire
upbeat aurora
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no

native sapphire
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Not that i am going to

formal tangle
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I halved phobos' size so I could handmake every sector

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when I seen I couldn't do it in hjson

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for tantros having perma locked sectors as deeper oceans would be fitting

upbeat aurora
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nah

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theres gonna be genned sectors... not in 2.0

formal tangle
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well good luck on that mate, it's tough work

upbeat aurora
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yep

native sapphire
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I do wish I could do more for the mod than just make maps

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Is there any other way I could help?

upbeat aurora
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your doing fine. Everything else I pretty much have

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bugtesting is required

native sapphire
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K

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BTW, I'd hate to admit, but I haven't even beat basalt crags in the campaign

upbeat aurora
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/:

upbeat aurora
formal tangle
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traffic when I need to go to work:

north goblet
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with big enough areas for ppl to mess with

short night
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:clueless:

formal tangle
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planets not even asteroids

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the asteroid clusters you can't even do in hjson

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actually no it's doable but you'd need 50 different hjson files

native sapphire
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What are your thoughts on using fog of war on select campaign levels

upbeat aurora
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no

formal tangle
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mindustry fog of war being tile based looks awful

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and it serves little purpose apart from large attack sectors

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scouting also isn't very productive given current settings

native sapphire
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We need depth charge shooters

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We need them to fight the submarines

formal tangle
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depth charge only make sense if you're floating on the water

native sapphire
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But they work undersea like mines

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And can be placed anywhere too

formal tangle
native sapphire
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Yeah

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Depth charges are fired by boats

formal tangle
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depth charges are set to explode at a certain timing generally, so if you fire those underwater you're gonna blow yourself up

native sapphire
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To hit submarines below

formal tangle
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sea mines, there's tons of variant but because it explodes on proximity with the target it'd make more sense

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than depth charges

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if you're already in the depths and use the latter you're cooking yourself

native sapphire
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Mutual destruction

formal tangle
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😭

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"front towards enemy" type of shit

native sapphire
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Yeah

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It's like setting of a claymore infront of the enemy only to realize its going to ricochet back at you

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But I'd do it anyways

scenic basin
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why only asteroid gen tho

viscid belfry
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drug generator

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🤑

native sapphire
native sapphire
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Umm.... ok

scenic basin
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makes sense

north goblet
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hella sus at first ngl

upbeat aurora
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@native sapphire why do you keep making maps like that lmao

upbeat aurora
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its not ike that now thankfully

north goblet
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very sus

north goblet
upbeat aurora
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the fact these are accidental lmao

viscid belfry
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"accident"

native sapphire
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No seriously they were

native sapphire
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I don't even see it. Get your minds under control

viscid belfry
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It looks like something sussy

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That's how

native sapphire
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Huh

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You know that these are going into the mod anyways

upbeat aurora
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Going in less sussy

native sapphire
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Sussy imposter map baka L Rizz got fanum taxed map

upbeat aurora
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Get out

formal tangle
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also that's not what I meant

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it's not ground gen it's planet's bodies in space

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like the asteroid cluster in space near erekir @ebon rapids

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sure you can the ground gen

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you can not do the cluster in hjson

native sapphire
earnest garden
formal tangle
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tantros terrain is pretty

upbeat aurora
ebon rapids
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trantos is so real

viscid belfry
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trans tro

rotund cove
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TanTos

native sapphire
north goblet
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tantros mixtech when?

native sapphire
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That would be so funny

viscid belfry
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mixmixtech

upbeat aurora
native sapphire
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...ok

scenic basin
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yes

rotund cove
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ah yes a mass driver

native sapphire
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Must be in stealth mode

quasi pike
viscid belfry
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Biomass driver

native sapphire
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intended feature

viscid belfry
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Biological mass drier real

formal tangle
native sapphire
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Lol

viscid belfry
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Moss drier

native sapphire
viscid belfry
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Can I eat them

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Bugs tastes good

native sapphire
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Bro, these moluses would digest you

scenic basin
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molus sandwich

scenic basin
native sapphire
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Probably moli

native sapphire
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Where's the tantros April fools update

upbeat aurora
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there isnt one

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rn 2.0 is in heavy devolopment

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should be done soon hopefully

native sapphire
upbeat aurora
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have a new core pike instead

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and cuesta

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and core escarpment

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WIP

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(this was an old sprite btw

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this is better

native sapphire
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Ooh, I like the core design

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When will we get tantros neoplasm

upbeat aurora
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no

native sapphire
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🥲

upbeat aurora
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yes... core pike has thrusters again

native sapphire
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Looks sharp

upbeat aurora
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there will be new core units btw

native sapphire
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Will they have guns/other implements?

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Or stay the same

upbeat aurora
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no

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just less janky and more polished

native sapphire
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Ok

upbeat aurora
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there will also be more better item/liquid sprites

native sapphire
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Is top right gallium?

north goblet
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u should add an amogus somewhere in the map

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or a pineapple

native sapphire
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I can do that for you

upbeat aurora
north goblet
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lezgooo

native sapphire
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I make a bunch of the maps so I can do that for you

upbeat aurora
native sapphire
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Yeah

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Lol

north goblet
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aight, ive been procrastinating playing the map again cuz im grinding gs

north goblet
upbeat aurora
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dont grind yet

north goblet
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Im so close bruh

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wave 31, 2 cores left

upbeat aurora
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2.0 for tantros is coming soon so wait on playing the mod

native sapphire
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Will it change the earlier maps?

upbeat aurora
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maybe?

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look the only plan I have is to squash bugs and put polish on rust

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and implement more content and maps

native sapphire
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That's pretty much the definition of a video game update

north goblet
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that's fair

upbeat aurora
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no I have no plan

north goblet
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lol

upbeat aurora
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there was never any plan for tantros

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I make and keep making

native sapphire
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That is very ominous

north goblet
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hmmm, have u watched pacific rim?

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or read

native sapphire
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No

north goblet
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u see in pacific rim, humanity is in a fight with kaijus, alien creatures that came from the vast outer space and used the ocean as their gateway

native sapphire
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Ok, I see now

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Are you suggesting tantros should do the same?

north goblet
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sort of, like in the early stage of campaign, there's still light right? and the further u go the less light appears cuz of the depth of the ocean

upbeat aurora
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no all animals are native to tantros

north goblet
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there's animals in tantros?

upbeat aurora
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cuesta has thrusters too now

upbeat aurora
north goblet
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oh right those exist

native sapphire
north goblet
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yeah, its basically just fog of war

upbeat aurora
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no FOW in tantros

north goblet
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I don't care what other people says, I like fow

upbeat aurora
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its main focus is wave survival and FOW kina sucks

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for wave survival

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its good for RTS but not here

north goblet
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fow for me just adds an extra challenge

native sapphire
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It's not fow, the whole map is darker

north goblet
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pushing back enemies while pushing ur defenses forward is very nice

upbeat aurora
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oh right molus do not emit light so it would be harder to find nests

north goblet
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I came from starcraft, and other rts games, that's why I enjoy fows

native sapphire
north goblet
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u can add recon drones

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well.... i don't think it has any more uses other than finding molus

native sapphire
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Maybe the drones are very tanky and without weapons. What they do is provide cover for units that can attack

upbeat aurora
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maybe a zoarcid is a scout drone

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anyways thats it for the leaks for 2.0 for now

native sapphire
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Hmmm

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I haven't gotten to play much but to compensate for no weapons and stuff whatsoever I think the core unit should have way higher mining speed

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And storage capacity

upbeat aurora
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thats already been done

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2.0 just has yet to come

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also drills will be much more balanced

upbeat aurora
loud badge
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Ah

upbeat aurora
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It will also have new sprites and every core will now have new sprites

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Correction core unit

upbeat aurora
native sapphire
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For some reason I just want to explode that

upbeat aurora
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new core units that are not stolen from auresus's free sprite collection

upbeat aurora
native sapphire
upbeat aurora
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FYI some of the shit is from a test mod which I use to add stuff before adding SOME of that stuff is not part of the mod

native sapphire
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I'm guessing the wind turbine is?

upbeat aurora
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it is not ingame

native sapphire
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But there are some things I saw in the units tab

upbeat aurora
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no theres no extra units rn

native sapphire
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Hmmmm

upbeat aurora
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other than the core units

native sapphire
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Have you been working on t3 units?

upbeat aurora
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yees

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mainly sprite stuffs

native sapphire
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Out of all things in 2.0 I'm anticipating the t3s the most

upbeat aurora
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not t4's ?

native sapphire
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No

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T3s are going to be so cool

upbeat aurora
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damn guess ill remove the t4s then

native sapphire
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Yeah

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Just add a bunch of t3 units

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Lol

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I am just thinking about all the attack maps I'll make with t3 factories

upbeat aurora
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there will ony be 5 t3 units

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the pico tree is just gonna be bombers

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also massive bundles update soon

native sapphire
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Huh, I thought that the Pico was just going to be a single tier unit for some reason

native sapphire
upbeat aurora
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certain classes will require previous catalysts

native sapphire
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Interesting

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How expensive are catalysts

upbeat aurora
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not very

native sapphire
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But you need them to upgrade the assemblers right?

upbeat aurora
native sapphire
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Shouldn't they be more expensive?

upbeat aurora
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no

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why would I make them like that for a constructor thats already expensive

native sapphire
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I was just wondering

north goblet
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can't wait to start designing schematics for this lmao

upbeat aurora
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should there be a large heat sink?

north goblet
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what does it do?

upbeat aurora
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/:

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directs heat

north goblet
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oh just a different name

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honestly just fix the jank heat system

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3x3 heat redirector for me is already good enough

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though something sort of a heat bridge would be good

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erekir heat system is very janky af

upbeat aurora
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its 2 by 2

upbeat aurora
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heat isnt jank at all btw

north goblet
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heat is distributed to the heat surface instead of being focused on to a building on top of it

upbeat aurora
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what?

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no thats purposeful not jank

north goblet
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its jank to me who designs inhumane schematics that no one will use

minor orchid
upbeat aurora
minor orchid
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yes really

upbeat aurora
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Would you like for me to get the old core?

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I’d say the new one is better

short night
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rewrite to java

upbeat aurora
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No

short night
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evil vote remover

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democracy hater

upbeat aurora
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I removed vote due to finding the solution

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Hmm

short night
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betrayer

upbeat aurora
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I tried Java Java did not work

short night
upbeat aurora
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Maybe I’ll port to Java when I properly finish the mod

short night
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all json is parsed by java anyway

upbeat aurora
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But otherwise not right now

short night
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so there is nothing json can do java cant

minor orchid
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i read that as "so there is nothing java can do json cant"

upbeat aurora
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description and name temp

formal tangle
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max active units +50 🤝

upbeat aurora
formal tangle
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I support this

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unit caps are way too low rn

native sapphire
upbeat aurora
formal tangle
green remnant
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just: useUnitCap: false

upbeat aurora
upbeat aurora
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doesnt work for the cargo things

green remnant
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wha

formal tangle
ebon rapids
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just wait for the update to release

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i want to suggest a feature

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uh

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different water compositions in different areas

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saltwater or something like that may be a lot less desaturated because seeing the same dark blue is kinda boring (opinion)

upbeat aurora
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hjson can only do so much

upbeat aurora
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drones going in an order from how they are built is not smart and annoying

upbeat aurora
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kinda does

formal tangle
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oh with the tiny notch it's way better

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it's unfort the text conceals it

native sapphire
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Are there flying crawlers in tantros yet?

formal tangle
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nothing flies in tantros, it floats and swims smh

upbeat aurora
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poda was reworked due to being too much of a menace to society

formal tangle
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cause instant reactor implosion ?

upbeat aurora
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no it just repairs damaged structures (and units?)

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in this case the cull is now targetable by enemies

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but do not worry cull will be able to fight back

native sapphire
upbeat aurora
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missiles

native sapphire
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yes please

upbeat aurora
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theres already missiles

native sapphire
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more

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You should make a Sam turret that fires in bursts

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I like the idea of having a single turret, maybe like a 5x5 having two mounted Sam turrets that use whatever ammo plus cyanogen

still prism
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Torpedo

upbeat aurora
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just gonna say missille

upbeat aurora
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I should make mous and cisne faster

native sapphire
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The sfx though

native sapphire
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Twice as fast

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Also, is that overdrive?

upbeat aurora
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ye

native sapphire
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Nice

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How much boost?

upbeat aurora
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10%🧱

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just kidding

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all the items leak

native sapphire
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Interesting

native sapphire
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Considering that it still only uses power

upbeat aurora
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and soon to be cyanogen

native sapphire
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Ohno

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That's to be expected though

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Are you going to add those units to the molus map I made?

upbeat aurora
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thats going to be a wilflife map so yes

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wildlife maps will consit of 2-5 waves of massive "migrations"

native sapphire
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Hmmm

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This gives me map ideas

native sapphire
upbeat aurora
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no

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wildlife will consist of lower unit variety and in turn will be more powerful

native sapphire
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Ok

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I still have a map in mind though

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I'll probably work on it tomorrow though

upbeat aurora
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Should frogs be added as a hidden unit

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Also

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Considering this is no longer a test there will be a proper name

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Coming in 2.0

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I seriously have to stop adding content and fix what I already have

native sapphire
north goblet
upbeat aurora
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yes

upbeat aurora
north goblet
upbeat aurora
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ok

native sapphire
upbeat aurora
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yes

native sapphire
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Nice

upbeat aurora
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hives too which

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makes the gerblings

native sapphire
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Gerblings?

upbeat aurora
native sapphire
native sapphire
native sapphire
upbeat aurora
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also more sounds will be added for the other animals

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those will make a squeak sound

native sapphire
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How do you make the sounds anyways

upbeat aurora
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audio editor

native sapphire
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Hmm

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I should make a bunch of amogus in the new map

upbeat aurora
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just not in veiw

native sapphire
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Don't worry "Only 1% of people can find the hidden amogus"

formal tangle
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bruh

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I hate it

native sapphire
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The amogus?

north goblet
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remove the top part of that amogi

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and extend back pack 1 tile down

native sapphire
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Yessir

upbeat aurora
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due to severe inbalance with the small fusion reactor it will be much more expensive to maintain

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and there will be more blocks required to properly have a power output

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in short pyridines will be made from SFR's and generators will be needed to use the pyridines

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wont just me the sequencing reactors either they will have a proper t2

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will not output nitrogen

formal tangle
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inbalance as in, it's too much power for what it is ?

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I mean you shouldn't make it unpleasant to use if anything

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or it'll be like diff gens

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awesome on paper, awful in practice

native sapphire
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I didn't think the small fusion generator was that broken

upbeat aurora
native sapphire
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I though that this was broken because it only needs bauxite to function

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Yeah

upbeat aurora
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its ratios is hella broken

native sapphire
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Definitely

upbeat aurora
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plus ima make it produce heat and consume more bauxite

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and output pyridines

native sapphire
upbeat aurora
native sapphire
native sapphire
upbeat aurora
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not the same thing

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hydroxide reactor is fine

native sapphire
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It's kinda op

upbeat aurora
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allow me to get a videp

native sapphire
upbeat aurora
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pyridine sequencers might take hydrogen to make it where 1 hydrox reactors fuels 1.5 fusion reactors

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and produce less power

native sapphire
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Maybe broken because it can be easy to set up

upbeat aurora
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too easy

native sapphire
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Make it so you have to place it over a vent

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For whatever reason

upbeat aurora
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no

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also there is going to be a sort of flux reactor type thing

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end game stuff

native sapphire
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Do you plan to finish the mod in 2.0?

upbeat aurora
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no

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just a majority of things

native sapphire
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Flesh out the mid game then?

upbeat aurora
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yes

formal tangle
upbeat aurora
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Should plastanium be added?

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Pyridines can be made to plastic and manganese could be a replacement for titanium

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not gonna be 600

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3 inputs 1 output and an entire side dedicated to heat

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Sounds familiar

native sapphire
upbeat aurora
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Dense alloy

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This mod forum has the most discussion out of every single one

upbeat aurora
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Too many items?

native sapphire
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Yes

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It's OP

upbeat aurora
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Hmm

native sapphire
native sapphire
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Well, maybe not in other mods but the name doesn't really have that much originality by itself

upbeat aurora
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Dense alloy is a v4 reference

native sapphire
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I think I remember that

upbeat aurora
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It’s not used too much iirc

native sapphire
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Plantum ingot?

upbeat aurora
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Nah

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Composite material?

upbeat aurora
native sapphire
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Plans on being able to use water?

upbeat aurora
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you ARE in water

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why would you need to pump it?

native sapphire
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Idk, like collect it from the waters around to use?

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Just funnel it into buildings?

upbeat aurora
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why would you?

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just poke a hole

native sapphire
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That's what I mean by funnel

upbeat aurora
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they have those

native sapphire
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I probably just had a dumb moment

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But I wonder how water will be used

upbeat aurora
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cooling for fusion reactor and other heat related things

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hydroxide concentrator

native sapphire
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Ok

formal tangle
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an alloy that would need to be initially liquid as in needing to combine slag + something else would be cool

upbeat aurora
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slag isnt going to be there

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my idea is pyridine+ manganese= dense alloy/composite material

native sapphire
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What about concrete?

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Any plans of adding that?

upbeat aurora
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no

native sapphire
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What about some sort of explosive compound for ammo?

upbeat aurora
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sodium

upbeat aurora
native sapphire
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They will be my allies

upbeat aurora
native sapphire
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Lol

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Are the molus part of the gerblings?

upbeat aurora
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no they are sentient really

native sapphire
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They don't have any smarts?

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There should be flying creatures naturally too

upbeat aurora
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they are smart

native sapphire
upbeat aurora
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they arent just gerb smart

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but they are smart

native sapphire
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Hmmm

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The gerblings should turn them into suicide bombers

loud badge
upbeat aurora
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yes sorry for the wrong word thank you

loud badge
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Sentient means conscious, like a bacteria or a flatworm wouldn't be called sentient
Yeh

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Sapient means human-level-ish

upbeat aurora
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well the molus is a slug

loud badge
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Ohhh wait I thought you meant the green guys

upbeat aurora
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no not those

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the gerb is very sentient and sapient

loud badge
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Ahh

upbeat aurora
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it cant really scream over a face mask

native sapphire
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That's cruel

upbeat aurora
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lets call it a wildlife incident

native sapphire
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The great coverup

upbeat aurora
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the gerb isnt going to be any sort of pushover however

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these will explain

native sapphire
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Will the gerblings have an advantage in strength or numbers

upbeat aurora
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depends on what you use

native sapphire
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Well

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I mean, does it have more of an emphasis in general on one thing

upbeat aurora
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if you use the "infantry" then yes it is in numbers

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when you use tanks and the "submarines" then no

native sapphire
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Ok

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That's what I was wondering because serpulo and erekir have different playstyles

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So I was wondering how tantros and gerble would work

upbeat aurora
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gerb