Top 1000 and top 500 games and it is just a coinflip on who has the worst bots. I would rather wait 30 minutes for a decent game rather than 10 for this bs.
Fix matchmaking asap noone wants to play these games. Diamond 1 and Paragon and we get plat players on the mix, WHY???? This is attrocious.
#Ranked is a bot roullette
potent night
ionic fractal
Top 1000 and top 500 games and it is just a coinflip on who has the worst bots. ...
Its designed so that you need to be at least 40% percent better than your oponent so you can carry your down bad matches but if youre not, you need to play way wayyyy more so that close matches and good team mate matches lift you up over time if you lose your momentum skipping ranks early along with the extra 5 6rp you get when the algo checks where u can get stuck , it feels bad
potent night
How being top 500 is stuck? 🤣 We are supposed to be having "quality" games. And we don't. Like why even bother with ranked at this mess as it is?
austere spruce
How being top 500 is stuck? 🤣 We are supposed to be having "quality" games. And...
Get more people to play the game.
pseudo warren
Or the matchmaker should have lower tolerances at high level
I see too often people are like mid-plat but end up in diamond+ lobbies
I believe folks would rather wait an extra few minutes than "end up with a bot on their team"
The lower skilled players get clearly outclassed and it becomes a burden
Making it a coinflip kinda kills the purpose of reaching a high rank
full shadow
Top 1000 and top 500 games and it is just a coinflip on who has the worst bots. ...
In my opinion, matchmaking is fine. You’re feeling the current state of the game - lanes are very decisive atm.
Lanes are decided early and rarely change once set. The amount of time where both players are competitive with each other is shorter than it’s ever been.
You either win the lane, and dominate, lose gracefully and achieve very little, or lose hard and get farmed. The fun grey area where the lane is competitive has shrunk along with the TTK, and it leads to situations that feel like your teammates are bots.
They aren’t bots, they just lost lane that game. It’s just easier than ever to bully and maintain an advantage right now, sadly.
obtuse ether
TTK is shorter in dota when you lose lane, how come it’s not a problem there ?
viral totem
You get plat player in your games because of the internal mmr
full shadow
TTK is shorter in dota when you lose lane, how come it’s not a problem there ?
No idea, I’ve never played Dota. I’ve played a lot of Pred though, and Paragon before that. I’m not looking to rehash the TTK argument, just pointing out that IMO, the laning phase is more cutthroat than ever.
Players aren’t suddenly bad, it’s just easier to snowball than ever
obtuse ether
No idea, I’ve never played Dota. I’ve played a lot of Pred though, and Paragon b...
It’s pretty easy to snowball in dota even league as well, the time to kill isn’t that much faster here just carries build defensive items there which I don’t see in pred I think that’s why people die so fast.
viral totem
No idea, I’ve never played Dota. I’ve played a lot of Pred though, and Paragon b...
Because most players don’t understand how laning phase works, especially mid laners.
I see it every time when I’m playing jng
It takes two minutes to clear first side, and my mid is already at enemy tower, resulting to getting tanked only to complain that he’s getting aped
full shadow
It’s pretty easy to snowball in dota even league as well, the time to kill isn’t...
I can’t speak for other mobas, but it’s gotten significantly easier in Pred over the last couple of updates. It is what it is, but it leads to situations where folks think their team is trash, when really they just had one bad fight early and never recovered. Next game the same teammate will go 10/2/5 against the same enemy, simply because they had a better first engagement.
3 months ago one bad fight or gank wouldn’t push you out of your lane in the same way it does now
full shadow
Because most players don’t understand how laning phase works, especially mid lan...
Sure most players might not get it, but their first mistake is fatal all the same. Anyway, we’re talking about top 500 players here. OP suggests it’s a coin flip on who has the most bots, I’m saying it’s just the nature of the game now 🤷
viral totem
Sure most players might not get it, but their first mistake is fatal all the sam...
Kinda yeah
obtuse ether
Sure most players might not get it, but their first mistake is fatal all the sam...
You can recover if you actually try tho, the problem is most people don’t even try.
shy fox
You get plat player in your games because of the internal mmr
So is that a bad thing for you ?
What counts the mmr or beeing plat
viral totem
So is that a bad thing for you ?
What counts the mmr or beeing plat
Well plat and gold players are basically the same. Chances of winning the game are still 50/50.
So from what higher level players have told me, is that it don’t matter how high the rank is.
What matters is if you’re good enough to carry the game.
In short, matchmaking is not perfect, it’s not great but also not terrible.
It’s acceptable.
potent night
You get plat player in your games because of the internal mmr
Nope we get plats because of the low player base.
viral totem
Nope we get plats because of the low player base.
I used to think the same thing for quite a long time.
I was asking myself why am I getting in game with diamonds when I’m plat, or why with plats when I’m diamond.
Internal mmr plays a role.
It sucks that colours ain’t the same, but it doesn’t make a huge difference if you’re around dia 3 and getting plat 1 players in your team or enemy team.