V1.12.6 Patch Notes Discussion

[humble steeple]

Hey Champions!

Here you can chat about all the changes coming up in the next update - V1.12.6!

Check out the full patch notes below if you haven't seen them already:
https://playp.red/47L1xmd

[cerulean marlin]

The Fey not getting the on-theme Sylvanis skin line is wack, but a new skin is still a skin so half a point.

[glad grail]

Crazy to nerf Maco even more. His mana sustain was already nerfed into the ground and he's probably the worst support after this patch.

Nice changes to Narbash and Zinx. They will put them in line with Muriel.

Also good to have Renna's original ultimate radius back. It feels really weird to play her right now.

[unique crater]

Regarding the other Hero changes, while there isn’t anything we’re planning to revert just yet (other than making some adjustments to some of the Camera changes that have received negative feedback, and further tweaks to some of the new Augments), as always we'll continue to monitor player feedback as we move forward and adjust any areas needed.

As with any large shift to gameplay, we appreciate the drive from everyone to push for what they enjoy. Please continue to voice yourselves as it helps us deliver a better experience, be that Heroes, Balance, or any other aspect of the game!

^ This shouldn't be only in the crunch section specifically

Please consider making the new shinbi ult (or the old one) an augment so the old playstyle can be retained for the people who preferred that style of gameplay.

(though I'm not sure how effective it'll be with the nerfs to her entire kit for the sake of balancing the new ult :/ it would be good to at least have)

Not being able to ult with the stacks you've accumulated already in a 1 on 1 fight limits her gameplay.

[glad grail]

Why is Muriel's ult not fixed yet. Her ult's damage reduction is 60% right now and not 40% like stated in last patch (V1.12.4)

[sharp nimbus]

Thank you for the changes, i loved the new crunch ult, hope theres a way to get it back in the future, and thanks for addressing rumble rampage ! 👍

[faint gulch]

When is this patch out?

[faint gulch]

SPARROW UNTOUCHED RIP

Sparrow avoids nerfs Sparrow mains avoid putting the fries in the bag

Sparrow invisibility augment works on the devs

[thorny oriole]

2.5% scaling nerf to neon's q lmao
142.5% scaling instead of 150 when 66% of the massive radius ability with a massive aoe pulse is true damage isn't doing anything to her viability lmao
Please just remove the true damage on at least the pulse

[faint gulch]

Okay good now just the entire rest of the game pls

Btw balance pass or balance patch? If this is a balance pass do we have to pay for it like the battle pass?

[native spire]

Make original Shinbi ult her default, and then if they want make the new ult an augment

The original play style and character design should be retained, and then if they want to add additional things that moves the original design of the character, add it as an augment

That shouldn't even be a question, the default ultimate version should be the original one

[faint gulch]

The new ult barely works because the ttk is so short you die before you can get all your stacks most of the time

[native spire]

Nah, the new ult is boosted, if you use it in a teamfight.

You enter in a teamfight press all the buttons barely scratch 3-4 enemies them press R and have a max stack ultimate in 4 enemies with 0 effort

It's just brain-dead

In 1vs1, which is what the character design was about, the enemy can just decide to walk back and deny your ultimate, which also feels bad

If they wanted to add to the ultimate they could have done something like a proposed here #1472913236734120102 message

Or literally anything else that makes sense with what Shinbi as a character is supposed to offer

[gusty oasis]

Windsurge of WUKONG should also have verticality like sevarog dash.. and you should give him a bit more speed attack because he is so slow right now, every other hero is faster than him at landing basic attacks

[unique crater]

Oh I agree with you 100% I'm just not sure if they have this set in their heads that this is her new identity gameplay wise.

[faint gulch]

Grux too strong this patch didn't nerf him enough.

I'd like a challenge while I'm playing Grux

Bots

[native spire]

I don't think they should change from one day to another what the identity of an already stabilised hero is

If there is a hero that no one likes, no one plays and that never finding his own identity and place in the game, sure why not try, but for a hero that already have a solid identity as is the case of Shinbi, the idea of changing her identity should never have even crossed their minds

[wintry viper]

Maco could near permanently boost his movement speed by throwing his little rock at his feet by buying a couple of mana regen items. A Maco player could travel all over the map, pressure any lane they desire, and retreat before getting close to killed. Nobody can catch him. Good nerfs.

[faint gulch]

When does Grux's funeral this patch release?

[elder quail]

you might know this by now but they said they're gonna make it an augment for those that liked the rework since they feel he has the space for another augment

hopefully it's by integrating combo or the dash into his base kit and not one of those just outright being trashed

[sharp nimbus]

I didnt ! Thanks 4 the heads up !!

[gusty oasis]

About Wukong clones, i think they should teleport instantly where wukong is hitting. So u nerfed the attackspeed but like this we can still have burst damage thanks of this idea

[real ocean]

Please bring back the old Muriel ability bindings.
I mean the button layout:
R1 – Alacrity
L1 – Serenity
L2 – Consecrated Ground
(on PS5)
Thanks #1475880541097296063 message

[serene imp]

Yall make hero’s really good and enjoyable to play then next patch comes around and yall nerf them like crazy 😭 I thought yall were making it so we play off of their individual strengths and weaknesses last patch, everyone I enjoyed playing with, damage has been reduced tremendously, how is that in anyway a balance to the game. Just curious about the logic behind patch updates 🤔🤦🏾‍♀️

[thorny oriole]

This is NOT a crazy nerf btw

And there were some serious balance outliers that they have slowly been bringing to a normal level of balance

Neon still op tho

[sharp nimbus]

Who do you use

Oh nvm that was ages ago

keep nerfing grux into the shadow realm tho 🐤🤟🏼

[serene imp]

Well okay, from what I read it seemed like it, I guess I won’t really know until it gets here and I play with the hero’s that were nerfed

[serene imp]

Aurora, Morigesh, kalari, terra, yin, shinbi… in regards to the ones that are getting nerfs

[sharp nimbus]

Theyre not really nerfs, its balancing, especially aurora since shes dumb strong rn

[thorny oriole]

All strong characters that needed nerfs
Yin is arguable, but i feel she's always been a sleeper pick

[serene imp]

she went from being strong to weak to strong now she’s going to be nerfed again, where’s the balance😭😭 she’s not that op all the adcs can kill her, especially Skylar

[sharp nimbus]

Thats how the game works tho adc eats tank, bruiser eats adc, also she’s gone from roided to strong to roided again, she’s always remained baseline strong unless you build into your matchups weird

[thorny oriole]

She's the best teamfight character in the game lowkey

[desert pollen]

No patch of the deck / cards glitch?

where you start the game and show assassin special card everywhere , need to switch to finally make other cards appear , glitching when you manage to get the reqs to get the special card , preventing you from getting it unless you rejoin the game and at same times remove the build equipped ( custom or basic ones)

It happens in both regular and ARAM gamemode

[sharp nimbus]

For now, just selecting any other crest right or left gets rid of it both full assasin visual glitch and crest visual evolving glitch

[thin aurora]

why no murdock nerfs

[desert pollen]

Left and right allows me to pick a crest , but when I get kills / support ( based on crest ) cant pick special cards most time without joining again

[hasty flax]

Such a good wraith skin

[shut summit]

When is this patch live?

[thorny oriole]

tuesday

[faint gulch]

When is the game fixed tho

[thorny oriole]

https://klipy.com/gifs/correlation-no

[thin aurora]

and no substantial boris nerfs aswell 💀

[glad grail]

Void Helmet item change here is marked as buff, but it's a nerf (Health decreased from 450 to 400.).
Also Devotion item is missing.
#📨│social-feed message

[thin aurora]

aurora nerf is not gonna do anything
until they remove this augment that should never been a thing! removing and adding numbers is not gonna do it
all this new augments + the ones that got into the kits for free need to be removed and reverted
the game is way to unbalanced with this

• on the main map is just a tdm fest

[native spire]

Ahora needs to loose the AOE damage of her passive, she has too much going on her ability kit

Remove that and move part of that power to her basic attack passive

Also agree with the part of adding the arguments to the basic kit, for a little QoL improvement is ok, adding new whole abilities and effects is too much

[signal moon]

man why wouldnt you animate feys wings on the skin? at least in some way. why give her this oompa loompa hair...

also again body type changes on feys breasts, butt and legs...just for this reason alone you wont see any money from me. wtf is it with the body changes on skins all the time. also aurora new face aswell

[ocean depot]

guys who is buffed and nerfed

[thin aurora]

and kallari still perma ban because this nerf did not do shit

[atomic estuary]

They killed the shimbi with the "balancing" method. Congratulations. You can delete it now.

[sharp nimbus]

She was super busted, now you have to actually play to get kills, no need to be toxic about it, she’s still super strong with tons of mobility

[native spire]

As the last patches seems to have missed the promised more strategic more moba like direction that Omeda said in their 2025 and Beyond blog they wanted to follow:

Here are some broad insights of what I think that could be done to different heroes to try to reach the promised more strategic moba like game

• Steel: Less bruiser and more guardian support (give augment to transform Steel from a support to a bruiser if Omeda really want him as bruiser).
• Crunch: Revert his ultimate change, less CC but more resistant.
• Phase: Less weird shit with the blink but more savior capabilities with the link, or any other additional feature for her.
• Zinx: Less damage more support.
• Maco: Less damage and CC, make him more support like in Overprime.
• Eden: Make the mele ultimate to not make him invulnerable.
• Terra: Less bruiser and more support/defender, like in Paragon. Make the tower disabling an augment recover her anti CC ultimate.
• Shinbi: Revert ultimate change, go back to hard/skilled but rewarding hero to play, instead of free team killing ultimate
• Yurei: Remove some extra mechanics from her kit, or make the hitboxes of the Kunais and dashed way smaller to make her harder to play and less consistent to use.
• Argus: Reduce his wave clear, (for example making his Photon disruptor a single target ability) to give him a weakness.
• Serath: Remove the CC of her augment and give her other interesting augment
• Feng Mao: Remove the CC of his augment and give him other interesting augment.
• Twinblast: Revert the last rework to his passive and make him again about double shots based on attack speed, instead of the fixed triple.
• Revenant: Remove the CC from his mark, give him something else.
• Dekker: Reduce the damage increase the support capabilities.
• Gideon: Remove the CC of his passive, replace it with anything else, like magical armor steal for example.
• Kallari: Revert her last rework, make her more about the invisibility and movement with her, less about spamming some buttons and unleashing burst of damage: in terms of LoL less Talon and more Shaco.
• Belica: Slow down a bit her CC to make it reactable for the opponent, remove the silence from her ultimate.

Plus, make all the characters ultimates to be put on CD if they are stunned while casting the ultimate, like for Aurora, Feng Mao, etc.

As always, this is just some random though made in a moment, the point it's not to do exactly what I said there, but to show an EXAMPLE of what a more strategic and moba like direction could look like

[thin aurora]

nerf terra more

its stupid being that tanky and doing that damage

and somehow you all forget to nerf murdock dont know why

[sharp nimbus]

terra and steel are proving to be a little bit too good damage wise with very little need to mind their build, they just build piles of armor and can absolutely destroy you (offlane) nevermind what they do to squishies they need a substantial nerf, too much damage for how durable they are, and steel gets his stun back online way too fast becomes too easy to run way with both shield bash and unstopable dash, make it so he doesnt get it as quick on higher levels or else he can use his stun every time you catch up to him, way too safe ! Cheers