#Spirit of Amir / Countess / Jungler

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untold crater
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Is Spirit of Amir really a must-have as a first item for a Countess jungler?

Is it even mandatory for countess junglers at all at any time?

I understand that it provides 12% increased damage to monsters, but does that actually make a meaningful difference? Or does it just end up being excessive damage that doesn’t really change clear speed in practice?

glacial cedar
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Secret count tech shhh

untold crater
near cedar
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Isn't tank countess supposed to be dead or am I missing out on something?

untold crater
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I've seen a few play her tanky but I prefer to play her as an assassin instead of a half cooked Feng Mao. Also that build does not really answer my question. But see again Spirit of Amir is included.

near cedar
glacial cedar
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Another build here

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Highest dmg taken and mitagated

buoyant terrace
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Yes you will want Amir most of the time and also the minor augment farmer (brining your bonus monster dmg to +18%)

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Without Amir and Farmer other (physical dmg) junglers will out clear you by a significant speed bc of manta scythe / overlord / malady / their higher basic attk dmg and cleave

hearty osprey
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If you're playing countess jng you can get amir first. Its not a must but it gives stats that boost your clearing speed and has increased damage for monsters. This also counts for fengs seedlings etc. A really decent early game item.
You should however not go with farmer as your minor aug, because farming speed wont help you as the game progresses. Countess is an assassin, a very bursty one like Feng Mao for example. These type of heroes are there to take down the enemy backline. Minor augments should always be ultimatum and executioner, or voracity executioner depending on your build, and the enemies your facing.
Executioner always as minor augment. Why wouldn't you take the extra bonus damage against targets that have less than 40% hp left?

hearty osprey
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That is incredibly fast considering that most junglers finish at 2.50.
If you need farmer in jng, then you actually need to work on how to farm your camps correctly

buoyant terrace
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i full clear 2:37 without farmer starting red side and could probably do faster if i risked kiting better

hearty osprey
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You are not clearing 2.37 without farmer and kiting

buoyant terrace
buoyant terrace
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i am kiting, i mean i could shave off a second or two if i kited even more riskily

hearty osprey
hearty osprey
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That’s what vs ai is good for

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2.37 is very unlikely. Boris with farmer I’d believe it

buoyant terrace
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bc i do, and it works on the jungle camps

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that could be the diff in clear speed

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ive got the vid let me see if i can upload it here

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2:36 finish full clear, no farmer augment

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idk why the quality is so bad lmao its fine on my pc

hearty osprey
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Well I’ll be damned

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That makes her the fastest jungler out there
No I go with blood well

untold crater
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so is spirit of amir really needed as first item then?