Eden Ult Suggestion

[crisp condor]

Many have commented about various nerfs that Eden requires to bring her in line with other heroes. I strongly support these, as Eden is currently breaking the game in my opinion. While I hope the announced nerfs will help, I think there is an additional nerf that will be necessary regardless of the announced changes.

Eden should not get her ult until level 6. It really does not make sense to me why one character should be able to get her ult well before any other character can. I've always assumed that we can't get our ults until level 6 to slow the game down and to prevent early ramping. Eden having her ult at level 1 is a fundamental violation of this principle, and it allows an already overtuned character to begin dominating much earlier. It seems like a simple fix would be to prevent her from getting her ult until level 6. I appreciate the nerfs that have been announced, but this seems like a necessary change the the kit in order to keep it in line with other heroes.

[noble crown]

dont think thats the main problem

and serath has that too

[crisp condor]

To be clear, I don't think this is currently the main problem with Eden, and I think other parts of her kit (e.g. too many dash abilities) are overall bigger issues, but I do think it is a problem that needs some addressing. Good point about Serath, but at least with her it requires a takedown. Eden doesn't even need that.

Also, Serath is forced to take tower hits if she wants to dive for escaping heroes. Even if you manage to escape under tower, Eden's squishiness doesn't really prevent her from getting you under tower in the early game, because she can simply use her ranged ult after chasing you, allowing her to kill you without taking on much risk at all.

[noble crown]

serath is not forced to take tower hits

or not too many

i think if we change the mellee ult to be faster so she isnt invon 40 seconds shes almost fine

she only has 1 dash that is devensive

thats ok i think

if she dosent have a mellee targeted dash her kit dosent work imo

just numbers and mellee ult are the problem

[errant harness]

The real problem of Eden is the invulnerability of his ultimate, plus the augment that gives her CD back after the ultimate

The augment will be balanced to make that after using the melé ult she doesn't get the ranged jump, which will help to lessen how oppressive was ultimate her

But she will continue being able to ult doing massive damage, while being invulnerable and while recovering the CD of her melé abilities to continue doing another burst wave of damage, which will continue feeling unfair in 1vs1