Why do you keep nerfing weak heroes? Yin still doesn't stand a chance in a duel fight against most heroes for the same reason - her ultimate has no damage, unlike all other characters. What can you do against 1 button with 1500-3600 damage without being able to dodge? What? What should your actions be? Give Yin equivalent damage to the R button. You even gave a freaking damage to a dumb Mourne, just press the button at any time and take away 20-30% of the hp of the whole team. You increase the damage of the dumb Kira, which can take away more than 100% hp with just one button. You increase damage to blunt Kallari that deal more than 50% hp damage to the area automatically. But you never give damage to Yin, who, because of your stupid ideas and selfishness, never has a chance against the rest. You keep nerfing her, you think that 10% deceleration is enough for an unconditional victory against such DPS from other heroes. You even introduce new items and Ult damage enhancement features into the game that don't do Yin any good. Thereby further increasing the imbalance and inability to resist. At the same time, Yin must take a lot of risks, because she must spend her only buggy ability to move in order to join the battle without being able to get out of it. At the same time, she must become very vulnerable just to start a fight. At the same time, half of the characters can easily keep her in root control and stun and keep her at a safe distance with impunity without worrying about retaliation.
#Make a normal Ultimate for Yin! It's impossible to play!
fair wasp
Your game designer is dumb and still can't count numbers on a calculator. Why don't you want to balance the characters? What is your problem? Why are you nerfing weak heroes and increasing their gap from the rest? Name at least one reason to ruin the game in this way. Name at least one reason why you keep spoiling the game and showing such incompetence. Yin should have the equivalent damage for an R ultimate ability. It's not a desire, it's a necessity. She has nothing to match melee heroes and no equivalent damage to match ranged heroes. Just because a selfish developer has no desire to give her equal damage compared to other characters.
Your developer has the intelligence to lie to people. That "Yin has the advantage in a duel! Even if she makes mistakes, she will still win!" Every time on every stream and demo, I see the exact opposite situation. How does Yin have an advantage? At the expense of what? Due to a 10% slowdown? against 50-100% damage from 1 button? Even with an advantage of 2 purchased items, with an advantage of 2-3 levels, she does not have the same DPS to fight on equal terms with the rest of the heroes.
Even if you hit 10 attacks perfectly, hit the reflection of the ability perfectly, taking into account the increased aiming requirements, Yin still loses. There's only one reason, because the other characters have an R button. This button does something different from you. Your R button doesn't give you ANYTHING. Where do you get this information from? Your developer has the intelligence to delete negative posts about how his poorly done work is being challenged. It's high time you realized that if a post is written, then there is a problem and often for a long time. The error report is written so that you can fix them, not to kill time writing. The same goes for bugs that you don't fix. But your developer doesn't have the intelligence to look at his mistakes and do the simple thing he gets paid for. He doesn't even have the intelligence to pick up a calculator to calculate DPS and the chances of opposing other heroes. I'm a developer, I came up with a dumb idea, so that's how it should be, if players can't survive with my dumb idea and can't do anything against 1,500-3k instant damage without buttons, then they can't play. This is your attitude towards the game and the players.
Instead of balancing the heroes, with each patch you continue to strengthen the strong heroes and continue to nerf the weak ones. What is it for?
This game is getting more and more nauseating with every patch. What do you do when Khaimera presses 1 R button that does more than 50% damage to your hp? What do you do when Feng mao Kallari Countess just presses all the buttons without thinking +w auto-guided with AOE deals you more than 100% hp damage without the need for aiming, with no skill? What will you do when ranged heroes can catch you at the root with impunity as much as they want? What will you do against the Grux Cranch Riktor that can keep you stunned forever? nothing! And each duel ends the same way for Yin - the opponent presses the R button and automatically wins. Yin presses the R button and NOTHING happens! There's only one reason, because they have an R button. This button does something. Your R button doesn't give you ANYTHING.
A dumb game designer thinks that a 10% harmless slowdown should compensate for 50-100% hp damage on the same button. A dumb game designer believes that a 10% slowdown that no one is afraid of compensates for a stun of 1 to 5 seconds. The dumb game designer believes that a 10% slowdown compensates for the unique skills and tactical advantages of each character. Considering that even ordinary abilities do much more than that. This ability is damage-free, it depends very much on the actions of the enemy and is easily controlled by any hero. Don't shoot at the sphere and it won't be of any use. It's that simple. Especially melee heroes.
Any hero can move freely inside the sphere, and every player is willing to take advantage of this burden. The sphere doesn't stop half of the projectiles and projectile abilities at all. Some "stopped" projectiles are not reflected back. And the developers still aren't doing anything about it. Such a narrowly focused capability should be an alternative. For example, like Steel, but even he has exactly the same ability with exactly the same effect and application that does some damage and slows down more OMG. Even Aurora has exactly the same ability to put up a wall with exactly the same effect and application, it can at least block the enemy's movement, even this is more useful than the Yin sphere. Redesign the Ult so that it gives something unique and helps to deal damage as universally and independently as Ults do for all other characters, to give some chance to stand up to others.
It would be enough if you at least added damage as a minimum, like the Gadget sphere or the circular Ult Kira. ~500+(20%Physical Power) damage when touching the sphere and 1000 inside for the duration of the action. Considering that you can't do anything for 1 second during casting, it will at least give you some chance against some melee heroes. In this case, all players will at least stop burdening the game and move through the sphere with impunity. This will at least compensate for the DPS a bit. Considering that absolutely every other hero has a universal ultimate ability that works against any other hero of equal effectiveness. Finally come to your senses and give Yin a normal ultimate ability!
nimble tree
Congrats or sorry. No one is reading this unformatted wall of text
Tell me you don’t know how to play Yin without telling me
fair wasp
If developers delete posts, it means they are reading them. They just don't want to do anything.
ionic gate
yins ult has a use. dont use it expecting it to stop people moving. use it to zone adc's from being able to join the fight, or to get value some other way
mourn similarly has a non damaging ult, he needs an augment to do maybe 100 damage as dot which is healed passively. zinx ult also doesnt do damage. neither does phase. revenants is also utility rather than outright damage. crunch just get another ability and a passive, not anything majorly impactful for an active. wraith ALSO doesnt do damage
the screenshots are also pretty useless. those are high damaging ults that have counterplay, and in every screen shot you are full squishy items, and your team are behind, presumably to the person with the high damaging ult
low oracle
mourn similarly has a non damaging ult, he needs an augment to do maybe 100 dama...
If I play mage mourn I can do about 800 with contagion
I have played yin maby twice it's like while your ult catches all projectiles you can use your reflect and send them all back at once
ionic gate
mage mourn is very rare though
and yeah yin ult can do damage, if you use it right
lament swift
If developers delete posts, it means they are reading them. They just don't want...
they aren't the ones deleting posts tho
fair wasp
yins ult has a use. dont use it expecting it to stop people moving. use it to zo...
You write such stupid things, just like a developer. And of course you don't read the posts. Do I have to explain the mistakes to you because you don't even see the basic things in your words? Do you really want this?
fair wasp
Every random person tries to respond to my message with some kind of thoughtless post by Captain Obvious and doesn't even see what they're writing.
fair wasp
yeah we disagree with you
Should I make a video for you where Mourn destroys 30% of hp?
ionic gate
without primal and with a normal support build, go for it
fair wasp
without primal and with a normal support build, go for it
Of course. I have to chew on your every word for you, because you're not playing against experienced players.
ionic gate
i dont think experience in a game will make a support mourn ult magically do 29% more of your health as damage
but go for it
fair wasp
i dont think experience in a game will make a support mourn ult magically do 29%...
Please don't litter the topic with idiotic messages like "cranch ult doesn't do damage, it just activates an ability that does damage" or "Zinx ult doesn't do damage, it just resurrects a player who reapplies all abilities that do damage." Don't clog up the chat if you have nothing better to do, it's better to play a game ruined by the developers and see for yourself.
ionic gate
im not wrong tho
fair wasp
im not wrong tho
Are you a developer or what? I wrote the text so that the developer could see it. And not to get advice from an inexperienced player and teach you. Because of this spam, responsible people spend time reading spam messages instead of going and solving the problem.
ionic gate
youre worried about how easy it is to read from what I wrote?
fair wasp
youre worried about how easy it is to read from what I wrote?
I don't understand what you're trying to prove. Do something useful.
dusty forge
Yin is one of the strongest adcs in the game. Shes weak early(thank god) but a mega carry late game. And shehes a direct counter to all projectile based heros. And to people who dont use her shield augment. Wtf is wromg with you. Its easily her best augment.
fair wasp
Yin is one of the strongest adcs in the game. Shes weak early(thank god) but a m...
Please write even more stupid unreasonable things, this is so lacking.
They keep saying that Yin, without Ult and without the ability to defeat any hero in a duel, is said to be the strongest. They keep saying that Yin melee hero is the strongest adc. 🤦
west eagle
Yin is not weak #1
#2 the ult is strong if used correctly you are creating what is basically steels wall and a pretty big size circle if your team plays around the circle in a teamfight the enemy ADC cant shoot any of you while you as yin are able to beat the living snot out of people as well as if they do shoot into your ult you can reflect that damage back at them........
shell quarry
yin players are not serious
fair wasp
Yin is not weak #1
#2 the ult is strong if used correctly you are creating what ...
More dumb advices "Use your ult to slow down 10% when any hero presses the ult button against you with 50-100% hp damage".
west eagle
More dumb advices "Use your ult to slow down 10% when any hero presses the ult b...
she has a team ultimate you have to play with your team to make use of it for running if your running from someone with range you could drop it and run away and the shots they fire into it will be stopped. 🙂
fair wasp
she has a team ultimate you have to play with your team to make use of it for ru...
Are you trying to write clever things to prove what? Can you read the post before responding to it?
I've already written several posts about how easy it is to control this Ult. I've repeated several times why this Ult is useless. Read what is written in this post to write about what is here.
It's really an unexplained phenomenon. Why are players and developers so eager to spoil the game and gameplay for certain characters instead of making a balance in the game? It's so easy to make a balance, but everyone strives for an imbalance. How is this better? At least one reason.
fair wasp
https://i.imgur.com/du1Vvqy.png
Why are you constantly littering my posts? Does it give you pleasure? Every time I send a message to the developers, you constantly engage in dialogue and give out Captain Obvious's advice, without even reading what is written in the post.
nimble tree
I've already written several posts about how easy it is to control this Ult. I'v...
If you think the ult is useless this whole post screams skill issue
tough scarab
jade hatch
What I'm gathering from this is that you want Yins ult to be another damaging ability?
jaunty shadow
Op is a fake yin enjoyer
stuck osprey
Skill issue 💯%
fair wasp
Yes Yin need normal ult with normal dmg like it have everyone hero and I've described the reasons dozens of times
fair wasp
And I repeat it 101 times. You will lose every duel. In every team fight, there's a duel anyway, you're fighting with someone who's doing damage to you anyway. Every fight ends the same way, for a single dumb reason - each character presses the ult button with an inadequately huge damage and advantage and deals you 30, 50, 100, or more% hp, you press the ult button and it doesn't give you anything. To be able to withstand such damage, you need damage. It's so obvious. You need an ability that deals damage. Because a useless 10% slow does not compensate for 1000-3600 damage. It does not compensate for the stun. It does not compensate for the healing vamp ot something. It doesn't compensate NOTHING. Because this is the most useless ult that could be given. There's only one reason - the opponent has dps, and you don't have it. And the developer has no desire to understand this.
That's why this game is so disgusting, everyone presses just one button and something happens, but you press that button and nothing happens. It's not balanced.
dusty forge
And I repeat it 101 times. You will lose every duel. In every team fight, there'...
Wrong
errant coyote
Yin is an jungle adc that is the perfect counter to any other ranged adc and mages due to her reflect and Ultimate. Her weakness are melee heroes, was always like that. If you add a damaging Ult she wouldn't have any weaknesses. People only play her in Offlane if she's balance wise overtuned. Usually she hard looses every Offlane matchup. Her Ult can change Teamfights to your favor but won't do shit 1v1 as carries/mages just run away and melee heroes stand in it and fuck you up.
low oracle
Yin is an jungle adc that is the perfect counter to any other ranged adc and mag...
Or use place abilitys in her ult like argus stone or feys growth cant block that but any ranged ability gets trapped and then she can reflect it back including ults
errant coyote
Or use place abilitys in her ult like argus stone or feys growth cant block that...
yes its one of the best teamfight ults in the game if used right
shes also highly matchup dependant. Her perfect pick would be an enemy team like: murdock dekker duo, gideon mid, any adc offlane bc they can't play melee and eden jungle
ionic gate
And I repeat it 101 times. You will lose every duel. In every team fight, there'...
it does damage if you use it right
again, not all ults do damage at all, hers does
and what ult is doing 3600 damage????
errant coyote
it does damage if you use it right
again, not all ults do damage at all, hers do...
wukongs ult
jaunty shadow
And I repeat it 101 times. You will lose every duel. In every team fight, there'...
If only there was some way to reflect all that dmg they deal
visual snow
And I repeat it 101 times. You will lose every duel. In every team fight, there'...
Yin just doesn’t have CC dude. Play around that. She’s very strong otherwise but there are heroes that are threats to her as it should be, no??
low oracle
If only there was some way to reflect all that dmg they deal
I know right I've only played her twice and I even know to wait for some projectiles to build up and then reflect them back
dusty forge
Yin is an jungle adc that is the perfect counter to any other ranged adc and mag...
Only weak early game. Shes a hyper carry. And she can carry pretty hard if you play for late game.
steady goblet
Yin is strong as fuck, the ultimate can block enemy damage and then you can reflect it to one shot the enemy ADC, it does damage and it block damage, the ultimate is incredibly good and Yin one of the strongest characters in the game if played correctly
fair wasp
Yin is strong as fuck, the ultimate can block enemy damage and then you can refl...
How do you think Yin should play against 2 button heroes who enought press only 2 buttons, is this an unconditional victory against her? Just because the Predator game got the worst developers from the all gamedev, who want to be the worst and they don't want to make the simplest balance in the game.
tough scarab
You want me to play 20 games pf yin and prove you that yin's winrate is fine?
fair wasp
You want me to play 20 games pf yin and prove you that yin's winrate is fine?
I want you go away if you can't read and just write pointless things instead of doing something useful this post not for you mr smart game king
tough scarab
Ok, i'll have fun playing her while you stay here complaining about her ult/kit being weak 👍
fair wasp
Ok, i'll have fun playing her while you stay here complaining about her ult/kit ...
Don't forget to duel with junglers who have the R button.
lament swift
How do you think Yin should play against 2 button heroes who enought press only ...
You have a 68% win rate on yin and are asking for buffs ?
tough scarab
I am very confused
fair wasp
You have a 68% win rate on yin and are asking for buffs ?
Are we discussing me or the character in this post?
fair wasp
You have a 68% win rate on yin and are asking for buffs ?
Or do you not know how to make a 100% win rate in a broken game by any hero and this is a surprise for you?
lament swift
Are we discussing me or the character in this post?
Everyone else disagrees with you so I was looking at you personally. Obviously she struggles against some heroes because every hero struggles against some heroes. Her ultimate is very strong and she is very strong. You know she is because you play her and win most of the time. She does not need a damaging ult and it’s okay for her to not be good into every hero!!!
tough scarab
Why did you make this post for the character you got a very good WR with in the first place?
Basic gameknowledge about lvl 6 powerspikes and different Hero scalings has nothing to do with just Yin
fair wasp
Everyone else disagrees with you so I was looking at you personally. Obviously s...
Another person who likes an unbalanced game.
tough scarab
Yin has counters. As has Khaimera, Eden and other Melee characters Yin is weak against atleast early game
lament swift
Another person who likes an unbalanced game.
I don’t understand what you mean, she currently has the top 5 win rates in ranked rn too. If anything she needs a nerf
tough scarab
And Yin counters most Carrys by being able to completely deny their Attacks and slingshot them back in form of a burst. What's the issue here
steady goblet
I don’t understand what you mean, she currently has the top 5 win rates in ranke...
Yeah, I play Yin and she definitely needs a nerf
fair wasp
I don’t understand what you mean, she currently has the top 5 win rates in ranke...
If you change the subject to personality then. The senior moderator cannot read and does not understand the meaning of written words. The senior moderator changes the topic to one that has nothing to do with the post. Senior moderator argues with the obvious problems of not having gaming experience, especially the same as in the screenshots. Senior moderator SUPPORTS the developers' desire to Keep getting worse the unbalanced aspects of the game. OMG, I'm shocked. Such people are given such positions. This game has no future because people like you work here without the desire to do anything.
Senior moderator saw a big win rate from one player and couldn't even imagine that this player made this win rate by killing newcomers who don't even know half of the characters in the game. I can't imagine your surprise when you find out that I am an experienced player who uses a terribly match searching to play against the weak for only one reason. The reasons are an imbalance. Everyone has just 1 single R button, which will kill your 30 50 100 110% hp or completely change the balance of power in your favor - I repeat 102 times EQUALLY EFFECTIVE against all heroes. You write: every hero struggles against some heroes. I repeat it just for you 103 times. EQUALLY EFFECTIVE against all heroes. Yin does not have such a button.
Experienced players can easily control Yin. It doesn't matter what role adc jungle mid plays. They'll easily make it so that you can't even use it against characters that, in the opinion of a lazy game designer, his yellowed paper says "It works against this because I came up with it instead of looking at it in practice."
And every patch. Stable in every patch. Your developers are constantly enhancing the OP Ult of other heroes, who use 1-2 buttons to kill Yin 30 50 100 110% hp without any problems, and continue to unnerve Yin, increasing this imbalance.
Do you want to do something useful and prove your words? Write a video guide on how to play in a situation where anyone you meet kills you for 1-2 sec with 2 buttons, one of which will cause you damage of 50 or 100% hp, and you have nothing against it. Go ahead!
nimble tree
holy yap
nimble tree
Do you want to do something useful and prove your words? Write a video guide on ...
why dont u make a video guide? since youre the one complaining
shell quarry
low key i agree rework yin ult shit is broken af
fair wasp
why dont u make a video guide? since youre the one complaining
Lol, I've made videos several times before. Since then, things have only gotten worse.
lament swift
Do you want to do something useful and prove your words? Write a video guide on ...
well I won’t be doing that!!! Obviously we don’t agree and that’s okay!!! They have seen your feedback rest assured
fair wasp
why dont u make a video guide? since youre the one complaining
Or do you need a video of a person clicking on 2 buttons from a screenshot? Is it difficult for you?
fair wasp
well I won’t be doing that!!! Obviously we don’t agree and that’s okay!!! They h...
I don't doubt your words
keep spoiling the game
nimble tree
Or do you need a video of a person clicking on 2 buttons from a screenshot? Is i...
make a proper video guide
i want full commentary
explaining what wrong
thanks
lament swift
I don’t think any useful conversation will happen here so I think I close this now 🤞
ionic gate
How do you think Yin should play against 2 button heroes who enought press only ...
primordial blaze (primal fangtooth buff) does a lot of damage
kallari does a lot of damage
tanking prime ALSO does a lot of damage
if you dont like dying so quickly, build more bruiser items
fair wasp
make a proper video guide
Just look for my previous posts in which I wrote "what's wrong" and what mistakes the developers don't want to fix, including since the hero's release.
shell quarry
no way theres more post