misc. delete

[modern pagoda]

theres always been movement penatly

[subtle raft]

Movement penalty has been made more intense for ranged heros

[fresh skiff]

Morigesh needs her slow to be nerfed, right now when Morigesh hits you with her Q it feels practically like a root, and she can walk away like nothing, and she doesn't even have to aim well as she can use the E, go through the enemy, use the Q on her feets and walk away with her movement speed while the enemy is "rooted" in place

Nerf that making it again a normal slow and she will loose a lot of power in the offlane

[wheat sinew]

They should nerf all ranged heroes in the offlane aspect

This is one solution, it should be unplayable

[thick shell]

And how would such a nerf look like?

[elfin obsidian]

it has to do with minion wave pulling, maybe if a brawler character is in his minion wave the oponent cant pull minions to his side and his attacks only apply to the oponent if the carry kills the melee minions

That wouldnt “nerf” carrys in offlane but it would make it more dynamic and fair

[empty girder]

Make the offlane poisonous and have a dynamic nerf on various ranged heroes that don’t have the offlane tag. Boom.

Better yet, apply a status to all lanes that gives an edge to the correct role.

[empty girder]

See above.

[thick shell]

I could see this if it was for the first 10min and only from T1 to T1.

[empty girder]

That would work.

[tame pewter]

Minion wave pulling?

😭

[elfin obsidian]

they shoot you and minions walk towards them and they keep shooting you to keep pulling the minion wave towards their side

[elfin obsidian]

Thats instant death and not a solution, anyone should be able to play a carry pick in offlane but without all the advantages of minion wave pulling

[tame pewter]

I know

I was just being silly because it doesn’t work the best yet

[modern pagoda]

They also break freeze by doing this

[empty girder]

I didn’t say the floor was lava lmao

[elfin obsidian]

I mean, if they have a specific nerf AND the lane itself is a nerf too, lets say, any brawler would just delete them without a fighting chance and no option to build items, thats just death

Gotta make the game dynamic and fair where it has to be

[ebon prawn]

Make it so that the cannon minion throws a rooting net if responding to a ranged attack

Only in the offlane

[empty girder]

My guy, you’re acting like the word “nerf” means -1000 hp. There’s a millions ways to nerf and not make a hero obsolete. Also, dynamic nerf I’m talking about would be how the “poisonous”aspect of the lane affects the hero. It’s not necessarily a double debuff.