#Battlepass Changes

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cedar oracle
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I think players that have purchased the pass should keep access to it, and players that actively played a few matches while that pass was active get the ability to purchase it. I do think just making it available to absolutely everyone regardless of whether they were around sort of undermines the time/effort players put in to purchase and complete these passes, that part does feel a bit scummy

teal granite
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Absolutely

karmic mural
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If u don’t think that u full of crap fr fr

teal granite
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It’s also borderline illegal to sell people things under false pretenses

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You can’t put “limited time” on something if it’s available forever

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Destiny 2 was sued over the same thing

cedar oracle
# teal granite You can’t put “limited time” on something if it’s available forever

That is also very true. These were sold under the pretense that they were available during a limited time, and would not be coming back. The fact that they were sold under these terms also incentivized players to finish these passes before they were gone. It doesn't make sense to me at all out of respect for the players to make them available to players that didn't play at all during those times, and it also certainly doesn't look good on them because of false promises as you said

teal granite
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Exactly

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You get it

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I might not have bought the last battle pass if I knew I could just buy it later

cedar oracle
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It's a huge step forward though and I'm pleasantly surprised that Omeda is making passes permanent so players can complete at their own pace. Just think they should consider their approach more to not just step all over their dedicated playerbase that invested time into these

karmic mural
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Seems like it’s to make more content available instead of making more content IMO

teal granite
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Why would they make more content when they can resell what they already made

karmic mural
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“Made”

teal granite
karmic mural
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Some skins are lit tho

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^^^

teal granite
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At a glance it seems like a great idea, but it seriously undermines the time and effort of the people who actually participated in those events when they were actually going on

nimble mango
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Just don’t label em as LTD anymore and let people keep access to the passes they purchase until they finish em

teal granite
nimble mango
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Listen, if they didn’t learn from the first time they did it with the Kira skin 2 years ago. Thats between them and god

teal granite
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If they wanted to do this for all FUTURE battlepasses, sure, but this is stupid

teal granite
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This is literally the 3rd time they’ve done this

merry shale
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I am having a deja vu

teal granite
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Sell us something “exclusive” and then backtracking

nimble mango
merry shale
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Didn't the same thing happen with the early access skins

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Or they attempted it

teal granite
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There was so much backlash they had to compromise

merry shale
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Constant FOMO to make people to buy, then acting generous to boost their bottom line

teal granite
karmic mural
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With the change with the battle pass they have no reason they can’t just say hey 👋 give us $10 and everything from that battle pass is instantly yours… sure it took hrs of gameplays and I had to be there but nah not anymore here u go

merry shale
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Again and again

teal granite
nimble mango
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Jk

teal granite
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At least in LOL I can flex my Hextech Alistar skin (one of the rarest in the game)

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(Because there are still actual exclusives worth collecting in that game)

nimble mango
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Flexing it all the way to 0-16

karmic mural
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That’s how they make big 💰

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Exclusive

teal granite
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The feeling you get when you load into a game and everyone is complimenting you on your skin bc it’s rare and they never see it is an awesome feeling. I just wish I could get that same feeling in Pred

nimble mango
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I personally do not care that they’ve gone this route. Cosmetics are neat, but once the round starts I don’t even notice them.

teal granite
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Just to be clear I have zero problems with removing the time limits on battlepasses, but when you go back and let people buy battlepasses that they missed it undermines everyone who took the time to participate in the event while it was going on

merry shale
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If they release a skin that's low poly, with snapping vertices like PS1/indie graphics, that'd be cool

red pine
# teal granite Like I said I’m sure most new and casual players will love this, but people who’...

As someone who has played since day one I still think this is a good change. You still have to purchase the pass and play the game to get the rewards. People have been asking for this since when the first passes were introduced and I don't think they were ever marketed as exclusive skins. Yes they gave dates when the pass was ending but never said anything about the skins not being available at a later date

teal granite
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Selling people things on false pretenses should be ILLEGAL

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Like I said if they wanted to do this w all future battle passes I would have no problem at all, but the way they went about it is slimy and insulting

manic token
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I agree with the middle ground if u purchase it u keep it that's how it works in ricals

teal granite
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But letting me go buy a battlepass that came out 2 years ago is stupid af and an insult to everyone who played it when it was out in the first place

daring forge
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people will complain about any thing about this game lol

karmic mural
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It’s a good thing

teal granite
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Sorry, I’m against scummy business practices

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I know most predecessor players are gluttons for punishment though and will do backflips to cope w the abuse

merry shale
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I'm not a fan of the constant min-maxing of wallets

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Things seem to flip flop so often between "EXCLUSIVE ITEM" and then "here's the thing that was exclusive, now you can buy it again!"

nimble mango
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Great changes Omeda. Keep it up

teal granite
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At what point do we stop falling for it

nimble mango
flat halo
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So you have never played hell divers?

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Its litterally the best system and always gives you something to progress towards of your choosing

flat halo
dusk cargo
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remove „exclusive“ skins completely and let everyone buy everything.

exclusive items are mostly for some people but the majority cant get them. its just not a healthy thing to have imo.

spring forge
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Here are my 3 big reasons why a non-expiring battle pass system with the option to purchase older passes is an amazing idea:

  • Player Freedom & Flexibility
    Players can progress at their own pace without feeling pressured by artificial deadlines.
    This removes the "fear of missing out" (FOMO) that often frustrates players and instead builds a healthier, more enjoyable relationship with the game.

  • Long-Term Monetization & Engagement
    Older or new players can always buy and work on past battle passes, meaning the content continues generating revenue long after its initial release.
    This model encourages players to stay invested for the long haul since they can always return and grind for rewards they want, instead of dropping the game when they miss out.

  • Greater Player Satisfaction & Retention
    Players feel rewarded for their time instead of punished by missing limited windows.
    Giving access to past passes shows respect for player loyalty and reduces frustration, which builds goodwill toward the game and developer.

  • TLDR : Overall, it’s a win-win: players get more value and flexibility, while developers gain stronger long-term engagement and recurring sales.

slim fossil
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Financial decision. Majority of the cattle are becoming immune to the fomo approach. Opening this up allows room for more sales long term, as we are hoping the game grows in population well beyond what it is now. This allows the overwhelming new majority to make missed purchases. It's a win for everyone except disgruntled leprechauns.

tepid inlet
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The thing that Halo Infinite (the precursor of the non limited Battle passes idea) did was allowing access to the free rewards of the Battle pass only when the battle pass was active

After the battle pass time ended, you had access to it only if you already bought the premium version, and you have also access to buy any premium battles pass at any moment, but the only way to access the free rewards for free was by playing the game in the moment the battle pass was released.

This way free users that doesn't want to pay no matter what, have a reason to play when the battle pass is released, and anyone that want to pay can pay at any moment

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Additionally to this they also had limited time events that brought mini battle passes like the winter even, these mini battle passes where 100% free (if I remember correctly) but the only moment to get these rewards where during the event period (which overlapped with normal battle-passes and you had to chose towards which battle pass redirect the XP progres), this is how they had a bit of healthy FOMO to maintain people interested in playing the game while at the same time being user friendly with the players base not forcing them to play the game when they say just to get the main rewards

tepid inlet
# teal granite Putting “limited time” on something and then selling it again a few months later...

To be fair this is exactly the same that happens with winter skins, summer skins, Halloween skins, etc. They never say that they are exclusive, like with the battlepass, they are just limited time.

I get your point, but if we act like that with anything they do, we would never get improvements in the game, and every bad decision Omeda takes would need to be permanent because they said X at first and now are trying to improve that by doing a different thing of what they said

The same could be applied with the price of the skins, right now a lot of prices are absurd, and if Omeda finally takes the step of putting prices that makes sense we could go with the "oh but you said that these skins were more expensive, you have to maintain the expensive random prices because is what you said at first"

And acting like that the only thing we get is a worse game that never improves where all the non-userfriendly practices have to stay in the game because is what they decided originally

gaunt crater
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As long as they don't touch the Season/Split Emblems & Titels im ok. If a player today joined and would be able to get Season One Title i would be furious.

sharp anchor
teal granite
teal granite
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Being there and participating should be our reward for supporting the game through it all

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The game wouldn’t have made it this far if not for the dedicated player base that carried it through early access

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I don’t see why Devs keep punishing them

nimble mango
teal granite
nimble mango
teal granite
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Ultimately it’s about money. They stand to make more by selling previous battle passes to new players. Simple as

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They clearly don’t care about the community since they just kicked one of the most positive content creators playing their game out of the guild

tepid inlet
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Blocking 4 whole battle passes to a new player, which all the effort time and work that creating that content has meant for Omeda its a bit to much. Basically they are throwing all that work to the bin just so people that were there when they BP was released can maintain it as exclusive

teal granite
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Ok so they should have made that clear from the beginning instead of backtracking in a scummy way

karmic mural
teal granite
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Don’t have time limits on things if you’re not going to honor them

tepid inlet
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The point of the BP has never been getting exclusive content the point of the BP is getting a lot of content for a bit of money using the play time as the currency, the FOMO is something negative that companies use and that doesn't benefit consumers

teal granite
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They’re selling FOMO and then gaslighting us into saying we shouldn’t have felt that way in the first place

tepid inlet
teal granite
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“Well technically we never used the word exclusive” but it is still heavily implied by the limited time nature of the event

teal granite
tepid inlet
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The limited time thing doesn't mean exclusive, we are going to get winter and halloween skins soon

teal granite
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Same situation as the Kira skin

tepid inlet
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Which were time limited

teal granite
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Seasonal events are totally different and it makes sense that they would be reoccurring every year

tepid inlet
teal granite
tepid inlet
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Same

teal granite
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Are you sure that’s actually from S1 and not later?

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There’s no indication of what time that was taken

tepid inlet
teal granite
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I have no problem w removing the time limits on battlepasses and I do think that’s a great idea

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I don’t even have a problem with letting people go back and finish the ones they already bought if they didn’t get a chance to

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But I do have an issue with letting people go back and buy things they weren’t around for because it cheapens and undermines the experience of the people who actually bothered to participate

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Not only that but like I also said, many people bought those battle passes and “limited time” bundles because they were under the impression that if they didn’t they’d miss out on the content

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If they knew they could just buy them at any later date, they might not have bought them at that time

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Whether they deliberately misled us or if it was just a lack of clarity doesn’t really matter. It still happened.

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I just don’t think I should be able to put the game down for 6 months and come back to get the content that I didn’t bother to show up for

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It undermines everyone who actually did play during the event and basically removes all incentive for playing during those time windows

tepid inlet
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I understand your point and how you feel, but there isn't anything to complain here, Omeda didn't broke their word or anything like that this time

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They just did what people was asking for and removed the FOMO element that only benefited them and not the consumer

teal granite
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I absolutely feel like it was a violation of trust, but I definitely understand that I’m in the minority

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Like I said at the start of the post I knew going into this that my opinion would be unpopular

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But I still felt the need to voice my feelings bc I know others feel the same

tepid inlet
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This is not if you are the majority or the minority, but that the thing you think they promised or the violation of trust they committed is not founded as they never promised or labeled the BP as exclusives, its you in your head who created cretain scenario because you wantd things to be that way, not because Omeda said it themselves

teal granite
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I understand they they never explicitly stated that things would be exclusive, but the implication of “limited time” events is very clear to most people

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And the reason they word it that way is to take advantage of FOMO

tepid inlet
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I'm someone that I don't care about exclusives or having something others doesn't have, but the others times something like this happened I talked in favor of the people because it was Omeda breaking their word, but this time is not that case

teal granite
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you don’t have to have quid pro quo to make an implication

tepid inlet
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The same as with the event skins as I explained above

teal granite
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I feel like the vagueness was deliberate

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And in some cases they just shorten or lengthen the duration of the BP with no notice at all

tepid inlet
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It wasn't deliberate vagueness, the battle passes where time limited and they had to say it

cedar oracle
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I’m glad they are making this change

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Though I understand how it feels scummy for players that took advantage of the BP while it was up and running, it is a way to reward players for actively participating for that period of time

tepid inlet
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Everything would need to stay as bad as they were originally conceived because original player could feel bad because before was X and now is Y

cedar oracle
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Yeah this approach is just a net positive regardless of anything

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Allows people to get what they want

teal granite
tepid inlet
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The FOMO in videogames is a disgusting thing that companies use to get profit for themselves at the user's expense

teal granite
merry shale
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And in this case, Omeda double-dips

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First FOMO to get it now while it's live!!1!1exclamationmark!!

tepid inlet
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And the other thing you proposed in the other comment that you would accept it removes the benefial part of the FOMO for the company and only let the negative for them

merry shale
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And then "Oh here's this thing again, you can buy it now too!"

tepid inlet
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So no point on doing that, as it's like shooting themselves in the foot. They limit their time sales but removes all the FOMO aspect of the BP, so they just lose

merry shale
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In a way without FOMO it can make people actually not buy it

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Because you can just get it sometime in the future, no point getting it so early

spring forge
merry shale
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I am aware, but that's what I mean by double-dipping

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First exploiting FOMO, then going all "here guys, we're being good, we're removing the FOMO aspect!"

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I am all for the change

teal granite
merry shale
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But at some point it feels like they're farming good boy points by doing low hanging fruit

teal granite
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The FOMO wouldn’t be a huge problem if it actually was limited time as implied

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But it’s not

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So it is a problem

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Well I guess it won’t be in the future because everything is clear now, but it wasnt before and that’s my point

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And because of the lack of clarity it feels like double dipping

spring forge
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It seems there’s some confusion around the concept of “limited-time” skins. Many players assumed that purchasing these cosmetics meant they would never return, but in reality, “limited-time” typically refers to availability during a certain period, not permanent exclusivity. Unless the developer explicitly states that an item is “exclusive” or “never returning,” it is reasonable to expect that such content could reappear in the future, either in its original form or as a recolor or variant.

The recent battle pass changes are actually a positive step for the community. They allow players greater flexibility and long-term access to content, which benefits both new players and returning ones. For example, other major studios like Riot Games and Epic Games have implemented similar systems where older content is cycled back in different forms. This approach has proven to increase player satisfaction and accessibility while reducing the sense of missing out.

In short, unless developers specifically label something as “exclusive and never returning,” it’s unreasonable to assume permanent rarity. Instead of viewing this as a loss of exclusivity, it can be seen as a community-focused decision that broadens access and keeps the game healthy by appealing to a wider player base.

teal granite
daring forge
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probably the devs will launch limited time events to rewards people in some other ways, who knows

echo marten
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It could be isuitable that if you complete the pass during it's "season" you get like an exra chroma for whatever the premier skin is. That seems like it would be the best of both worlds.

spring forge
sharp anchor
# teal granite V constructive ty

There's only two reason for you to be opposed to this change.

  • You see this as a zero-sum game and by others gaining something it means you're losing something.
  • You're entitled and want exclusive items that other people can't have to make you feel special.
    Honestly I feel very little distinction between these two perspectives.

Regardless either suggests arguing with you is unlikely to change your opinion so doing so would be a waste of time. I do however feel it is important to rebuke your objection, thus my summary of your argument.

karmic mural
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Why only two???? DekkerQuestion

sharp anchor
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It's a cool number.

manic token
crude dove
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(To be clear I have zero problems with removing the time limit on battlepasses or even allowing backbuying for future events, but I do have a problem with putting things that were once labeled as “limited time” or “exclusive” back in the store months later.)

This is so valid

karmic mural
sharp anchor
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Feel free to add your own.

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You know what you're actually right. There is a third option. You fell for FOMO and made an impulse purchase and now if it becomes avaliable to everyone it'll make you feel like a fool for buying it.

karmic mural
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See

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Now it’s 3 NarbashLaughing

sharp anchor
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But that probably applies more to limited time skins than the battlepass which is avaliable for like three months.

tepid inlet