#Game is a mere 2% from all time mixed reviews on steam

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foggy knot
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-Players across all ranks are vocally concerned about balance and recent design choices
-At higher levels, many feel the meta is too rigid and overly defined and slowly filling up with characters who have minimal counter play or too many "Fun buttons"
-The world change screen shake and red color have been widely criticized as unpleasant. This one particularly. Whoever made this choice makes me wonder how whoever made this choice has their role of importance among the other good devs. They have no taste.

There are too many issues to list in full and listing more would make this post seem blind negativity. Even if I do believe that is what omeda deserves lately.

Current direction seems aimed at casual players who already have better alternatives in such a space. especially if the game continues drifting away from being a true MOBA.

Is omeda not concerned about being this close to mixed reviews status? Quite hard to come back from IMO.

slow hamlet
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Before the game ended, at least Overprime tried to be a moba with feedback from users

Ttk and snowballs faster than overprime

After 20 minutes, the overall score is over 35

Now pred is not a moba

winged zinc
tame frost
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I personally wish we had an option to turn off the red hue on the screen when shaper is killed. I hate it.

pallid siren
torn current
# pallid siren It’s really funny how we’ve come full circle. A pretty large contributor to Over...

when we said "We want over prime skins" we meant we liked the fidelity and the artistic direction.. Not the game play 😂

I know the game is nowhere near as absurd as over primes pacing, however... They still to this day had a much stronger item system overall, a strong active item system / "Crest" system, better map aesthetics (pit layout / design was pretty good though)

Their art was miles ahead of ours. Their original designs (kpop girls aside) was much stronger / more creative

We get mourn and akeron who look like Smite 2 Fidelity (if that)...

Our recent original humans look good, although Renna's face and her animations look kinda meh

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Being 2 % away from overall mixed reviews is kinda scary, especially paired with the fact that this seems to be the first large content patch that didn't boost the numbers even temporarily. Makes me feel like people are fed up in some way

lament geyser
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balance is awfully shameful.

Serath is banned most of the games and OS writes in their path notes that Serath needed a buff to keep up with something fictional.

There are so many heroes that out outright imbalanced, all we got is .0125% less here and there but still augments stay mostly untouched.

Pretty much every role picks 6% ult damage, and more damage vs heroes below 40% health.

no variety because Pred is soulless loveless team death match with tours and no idea what it's identity is.

Aside from Ace saying this is a moba, there are no indications that the rest of OS understood that as well.

Most annoying heroes have plenty of escape and insane damage and every map change opens up more paths for those heroes to escape ez pz.

The future looks grim because the current situation is mediocre at best and we already had a great basis, but ruined it because there is no vision behind the development anymore.

winged zinc
winged zinc
torn current
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the worst part is, she isn't even particularly strong in low level play, so if you wanted to make the argument she stuffs gold and below lobbies, i'd raise you a khaimera who needed a buff due to his performance in high level lobbies

long rapids
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Omeda will realize this all too late

dusty ingot
royal sapphire
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At least Overprime sexy designs worked over the characters and tried to give them things that fit them, as that cool Gadget skin, the cute winter Shinbi skin or nurse Muriel skin which was a bit weird but really cool and original

mighty pewter
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That Gadget skin was goated!

winged zinc
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I got an email saying a developer has responded to my changed review in which i changed it to thumbs down with many reasons as to why.

The response was

" hello the game has changed drastically since you last reviewed it please give it another chance."

Edited date of review Sept 10th GruxSleep

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scenic vine
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There's been an employee mass responding to negative reviews, but it honestly feels like a bot, or at best boilerplate responses

echo prawn
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I mean, when we have a team member actively in the reddit going "Yeah, give our game a shot! We've done so much" As the community is currently mixed on so many things - Just feels like someone who isn't caught up with the times or aware of the happenings.

Screenshot_3964.png
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They can respond to things like that and try to goad people into picking the game back up - but they literally can't respond to most posts of actual substance.

I'm honestly surprised TB even responded to the post about the pre-made assets while he was supposedly "Taking a month long break from socials".

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It took us a year to finally get a hero concepts channel and now I don't even know where it is anymore. I can't see it when I check the channels list.

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I (and others) suggested that a YEAR ago. A discord channel. A year ago. It took us a year to get a discord channel.

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It's hard to take the game seriously when these are the official emails I'm getting.

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These are going to my spam btw. My email thinks these are spam because of how they are headed and worded.

scenic vine
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"Added DLSS 4 to boost performance"

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By using AI generated data for the frames instead of actually optimizing

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And by using a feature only available to the most recent GPUs, only by Nvidia

echo prawn
scenic vine
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That's what DLSS is

echo prawn
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Oh god there's still so much to learn...

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I've been cramming shit into my brain for the last month now and I still feel lost.

winged zinc
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cant really blame them for using DLSS everyone is using it. its frame generation I take more issue with well frame gen when FPS without it is giga low I had that issue with MH Wilds and while I could get playable FPS if I turned it on you could really tell when it was struggling cause it would basically create extreme motionblurr around everything .

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DLSS Im a big fan of cause it adds FPS with very little difference in visuals

echo prawn
winged zinc
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what did they say? they now support DLSS?

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thats fine

echo prawn
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"We added DLSS 4 to boost performance are currently working on FSR implementation"

winged zinc
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theres nothing wrong with that

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it does help boost performance at very little visual hit

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its very good

echo prawn
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No, just feels weird to take credit for it when it's probably not all that hard to put in. I'm imagining more is going into the FSR than went into the DLSS from the sounds of how it was described.

winged zinc
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I use it whenever its available in the games I play because its basically always worth using and its hardly noticeable

echo prawn
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I would, but my PC isn't for gaming. I gotta upgrade here soon but I've been putting money elsewhere.

winged zinc
echo prawn
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I'm pretty sure they use a lot of the translation software that is recommended to other companies. iirc They mentioned something along those lines when we got the translations added to the game.

torn current
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To be fair guys, dlss was very requested

winged zinc
royal sapphire
# echo prawn

And the worst part of that Email is that precisely the 1.8 (although a really cool update and that had a lot of work put on it) was made in a big part not hearing the player base

People have been asking for a new map or big map changes, and at least they had done the part of the big map changes, but in a way no one asked for, people are saying all the time that the map is too small, that the rotation are too fast, that the back to lane is too inmediate, that rotations are too easy, and they do changes to double down on those thing people complained about, people complain about TTK and bloated kits and they reduce the TTK and release more bloated characters, people complain about gonner skins, they release more and worse, people complain about skin prices, they continue with the same arbitrary prices for the skins, people complain about the HUD of the game they improve the UI of the store (again).

Now at least they are reverting the fast recall change, but the thing is that if they heard the community that thing of reducing the recall to 6 seconds is something that shouldn't even have crossed their minds

royal sapphire
long rapids
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I bet people would’ve played legacy a lot more if it was available now

echo prawn
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The ONLY reason we're getting the reversion on the timers is because DATA showed it.

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There's been vocal player feedback about so many different features for a while now. If the data for the goon skins was as poor as the community outcry about it - they would also drop it. But since they sell well - they stay in the game despite the amount of backlash it gets every single time.

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The only time Omeda will do anything, is if the data speaks to them.
The vocal part of the playerbase doesn't matter. They shrug off that vocal part as being the minority - and the data mostly helps them maintain that.

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The only reason this reversion is happening - is because the numbers on the data backed up the numbers they were seeing across forums.

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Otherwise this would still be on the board - and it mostly is. The only change being reverted is the backing timers. Not the extra launch pads or the bonus fountain regen - despite both of those also contributing heavily to how fast players can get back.

half island
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if thats really the case the game is doomed. going only about data kills all innovation and creativity which is desperately needed to make a game shine and stick out from the competition. in the end they will only end up being a cheap knock off. because data showed that this and that element worked for the competitors doesnt mean it will work for your game. if only epic didnt decide to drop the ball on paragon for milking fortnite....at least the devs back then tried new things and built their own formular. imo omeda shouldve listened to their players way earlier. most of them came from paragon and almost everyone i played with quit because predecessor strayed further away from where paragon left. they didnt expect predecessor to become paragon but to built upon the elements that made paragon great. and i cant tell a single element omeda built upon. the only thing they did in all those years is to increase vertical movement. like skylar and phase hover. thats some cool stuff. the rest tho is mainly copying from the competition - in a game mainly built from assets that doesnt look good. even worse with all the funding pred got back then players expected more - or at least myself and the players i played with.

scenic vine
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Gotta love how it's "the data"

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Which is the same thing Epic did way back when

long rapids
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Lmao man epic and their data. They treated it like an otherworldly deity that only speaks to me

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“The data is telling me to nerf twinblast and remake the whole game AGAIN”

winged zinc
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I JUST want a good 3rd person MOBA man idk how its so hard....

The only one thats delivered so far for me is fault imagine the smaller indy dev with very few people is the one that made a game that felt the best as janky as it could be at times it had the strategic feel and gameplay elements . It was also hard and you always had things you cpuld get better at.

Both overprime and pred aren't delivering that. Preds EA felt like it could turn into that but it never did it went the opposite dirrection......

steep stone
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Pred has literally been just potential for nearly 3 years now. I’ve mostly stepped away from the game, only coming back every few patches to play a match only to remind myself why I left. I’m a console pleb, so games like Deadlock and Supervive aren’t in my means at the moment. Pred is the one with the most potential on console, but I feel Omeda squander that potential every chance they get. Shame. Back to Wild Rift.

royal sapphire
slow hamlet
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When Deadlock enters Open Beta, this game is completely baked

winged zinc
dusty ingot
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isnt it funny an invite only closed test game has a bigger playerbase than a 3 yr old "moba" called predecessor

torn current
dusty ingot
scenic vine
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And in case "it's Valve", you also have Artifact that was a massive flop

mighty pewter
astral hill
winged zinc
spare sparrow
pallid siren
winged zinc
echo prawn
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Lmao.

Omeda. You literally have people in your own discord server, helping others get into your competition.
If that isn't a sign you are losing the goodwill and faith of your main playerbase - I don't know what will be.

Please start taking things a little bit more seriously.
We shouldn't be talking about how lit your competition is.

spare sparrow
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Why can’t we like more then one game 😭

echo prawn
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I haven't played Deadlock, so I can't say I'd spend anything on that.

But I know for sure I'm not spending any on Omeda right now. Nothing I want and not happy with the state of the game.

winged zinc
# echo prawn I haven't played Deadlock, so I can't say I'd spend anything on that. But I kno...

Dead locks fun so far I feel like little timmy though atm theres definitely a learning curve. Theres also some very unique mechanics like no healthpots and having to rely on like a healing minion and defending it to keep yourself up. playing kinda peekaboo poking farm phase utilizing cover. Backing to base you dont back to base you travel back with a speed boost that has a long cooldown but you can travel without the boost too so theres punishment for using it wrong or to often. Death timers get extremely long if you mess up later in a match you really feel that impact of your mess up. having a set ammount of dashes per hero to utilize. Headshots actually do matter even on the "towers" which I found interesting but everyone shoots so I guess it makes sense. kits are very unique and not bloated . damage numbers so far feel fair but im fighting bots figuring things out so who knows what its like against the vets LOL. its also 6 v 6 which is 2 person a lane? there might be a jungler role IDK yet again bots LOL.

dusty ingot
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i need an invite too, someone

long rapids
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I’d also love an invite if anyone could send one 😁

winged zinc
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Not home till monday

sonic void
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Just go to Deathlock discord and there's a dedicated channel for the key requests.

mighty pewter
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I aint trying to be that guy but anyone who wants an invite can dm me

winged zinc
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Now that I've played player matches

Im just gonna say it

Pred has very steep competition ..........

Especially if they keep going with thier current game dirrection

bronze nebula
# winged zinc Dead locks fun so far I feel like little timmy though atm theres definitely a l...

still suffers from the same moba problems...except its steam and youd think theyd do better..but they prioritize adding new characters instead of fixing the core problems from release almost a year ago now.
toxic chat, rage quit on start "didnt get my char", horrible matchmaking balance, maybe like 1/5 games you get equal matched characters/skilled players. the list goes on, and its all over reddit and discord.

its free so who cares right? except...youd expect better from the same devs who made team fortress...or...then again?

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go into steam community, tons of people give keys out, just becareful if someone from the same key-tree gets banned for being truly horrible human being, everyone within a few degrees does too, ie. if the person invited you gets banned, everyone they invited gets thier keys revoked.

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or so the policy states anyways, after all, "its still in "beta"" whatever that excuse means these days.

winged zinc
bronze nebula
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Uhm. Is it though? Cause it depends on what server you play. Just like ranked is only available in some servers. And nitro doesn't even exist in some no matter how long you wait cause the ui isn't conducive.

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Deadlock has one game mode. No skins. No community marketplace. Etc. they are wasting all the essential opportunities in their first year.

I love their new lobby (much more than most mobas or FPS etc) . That is one thing they did right...almost perfect. Needs polishing.

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People love to use the excuse that "it's in beta" or "it's invite only" as if there hasn't been 3million registered players and over 10million recorded matches. Until they dropped the 6 new characters the stats were progressively in a downward trend. With just a tick up after they changed from 4 to 3 lanes. It's just a ripple right now due to the new characters and returning players. But it gets old quick because you almost always see the same characters being used 90% of the time.

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I liked its premise. No battle pass, no paywalls (yet). It has potential but It's being wasted.

winged zinc
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you need to get the core game down first this is something I stressed to pred in EA

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I dont believe it should ever have gone free to play when it did

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because its main map the litteral foundation everything sits on is bad

bronze nebula
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agreed, but in a place like steam you can literally just pass skins off to the community.

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tbh, i kinda hope pred takes some skin cues from ...overprime was it? cause they had some creative skins

winged zinc
bronze nebula
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NarbashLaughing most of them are just og skins or variant repaints of them though.

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ps you dont need to "@reply" each time, were the only ones commenting here.

winged zinc
bronze nebula
mighty pewter
# bronze nebula still suffers from the same moba problems...except its steam and youd think they...

Absolute nonsense.

Prioritize adding new heroes??
Core problems? Which
ones?
Genuinely curious because they have actively changed the game since May leaks. Matchmaking has even been adjusted a few times and tbh isn’t even in a terrible spot

Also game isn’t even released. It’s in alpha. They have been drastically improving the game over the year and half since its leak. They constantly listen to community feedback. They have added items and made changes specific to feedback.

You don’t have to like deadlock but to say a bunch of stuff that isn’t even accurate is crazy

I’ve never seen anyone rage quit because they didn’t get their hero. This is just conjecture. They system allow you to pick which heroes you want to Que as ??

They also have low prio Que for bad actors. This is something omeda would never do cuz they don’t have the playerbase.

No monetization cuz the game isn’t even finished yet. I’m sorry your idea of early access beta is warped by omedas use of the tag, but why would valve monetize temporary art.

Again this isn’t omeda the “temporary” assets are actually temporary.

spare sparrow
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Dang that hurt me

bronze nebula
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Your post made me laugh.
Thank you so much for contributing your opinion to a conversation that ended hours ago.
Must be nonsense to have over 200 hours of matches and an opinion I guess, I didn't know discord was Reddit now.
despite saying I like it but it's potential is being wasted, since it's a known fact that most games depend on their first year akin to a restaurant.

If you actually wanna see what the community is like 5 minutes in Reddit will show you all the toxicity

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"temporary" "early access"

Warframe has been in beta for 10 years.

Call it whatever you want. It's open to the public.

mighty pewter
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It’s a feedback forum. The conversation is ongoing from OPs post days ago. What are you on about like there is a time window to discuss your comment.

Reddit toxic?! No way you’re kidding. Shocker lol

Temporary and early access are not interchangeable.
Don’t be dense.

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Btw at least the game system is smart enough to allow abandons when someone goes afk. Something people have asked omeda to do/fix for a year now

bronze nebula
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Thank you for your opinion on relevance.
clearly your "constructive" comments about my opinion have a direct correlation to the OPs post.
again call it whatever you want. be pedantic and claim terms like "early access" and "temporary" are mutually exclusive terms... even though early access is a temporary state of play by most definitions.

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and if you looked, its less than 2 min, its not afk, its people quitting at start.
it takes a certain number of quitters before you get a green "Not scored" banner.
youd probably know this if you actually played.
oops.

mighty pewter
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I have 1000hrs of gameplay and what you just said is untrue. Been playing since May last year when it first leaked, so I’m quite familiar with the game and all the changes it’s made since then

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It is a time window inwhich it makes the game safe to abandon on green not a number of people, but still even when people afk later in game this pop up still happens and makes the safe to abandon. Only if you do its a loss rather than not scored