#Change Ranked To Allow For Larger Spread With Inviting Friends

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unborn scarab
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**Issue: **
You can only play ranked with friends who are close to your ranked. This would be fine except for the fact that the auto matchmaking seems to allow for larger rank gap than with friends.

I understand this may be due to the fact that the matchmaking is not based on rank. However it is not a positive QoL feeling to know you could not bring your friend to a ranked game but then get a random match in your group who shows your friends rank. This feels unfair and counter intuitive that you can still play with those of a lower rank but cannot have it be your lower ranked friends.

Solution:
Allow for friends to play together with a much larger rank spread or tighten matchmaking so you don't get ranks that you couldn't invite.

scarlet steppe
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The worst is you cant que with lower ranked friends but then you get that friend in your game anyways cuz yall qued at the same time. makes 0 sense. i cant que with my friend but can have him on my team. But the REAL issue is the internal MMR, everyone starting at gold, so you have bronze players playing against platinum players makes absolutely no sense. the MMR nneds a full overhaul, they have ppl complaining abiout ranked dailey, and 98% of this stems from the interal MMR.

bleak fable
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Most MOBA's has such a restriction for premade groups who want to play ranked.

Its a anti-boosting system so that high ranks aren't full of people who got carried to that Rank by their friends.

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Match quality for everyone is more important then people who want to boost their Friends to ranks where they don't belong in.

unborn scarab
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I can see paragon or plat or diamonds not being allowed to invite bronze.

But why restrict gold from bronze and then let the auto match making invite bronze?

I just wanna play with people who aren't trolls, use call outs, and don't make matches feel like I'm playing with bots. So until a better LFG system is implemented I'm stuck with friends and their friends and it's annoying to join a group or invite someone without knowing you can't do ranked until in the group. Then have the person leave and still get an auto match with a bot of the same level who plays poorly and seems to not be using any form of communication. When you knew you could've had someone who you could at least talk with and try to strategize a win.

gloomy temple
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solution is u go play normals

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tell ur friends to get better

unborn scarab
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Really not have an in game looking for group feature, not preventing new or low ranked from getting in with gold, improving queuing and providing ways of discussing role selections, adding this style of ranked to the labs to test out, an indicator in your friends list for who is or isn't in range of your group, literally any other changes.

Your saying instead of any improvements your only suggestion is don't play with your friends in rank even though you get matched with that rank and tell people you meet online to get good and hope you can figure out when you both are in range to play together.

bleak fable
# unborn scarab Really not have an in game looking for group feature, not preventing new or low ...

If you get matched with lower ranks, their MMR is probably high enough that they catch up to your rank soon.
So they deserve an higher rank.
(Unless you play on the 3 bottom ranks)

If your friends are good enough to catch up, then you would be able to play ranked soon with them.
If they ain't good enough, then help them to become better players... Or simply accept that boosting players to a Rank where they don't belong in is a bad thing.
Players who boost others and smurfs are two of the main reasons why people talk about "elo hell" around mid tiers in most MOBA's

gloomy temple
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wich once again is a problem from omeda

rare idol
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Stacking in ranked is already a major problem as it allows for players with high internal MMR to play at lower mmrs to climb which can cause issues with players matchmaking experience. But the idea of stacking in ranked is a poor one anyways and should have its own queue which has been said before as 5 stacking and solo/duo queue show off different skills that players should have

gloomy temple
scarlet steppe
gloomy temple
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if u can accomodate players with firends

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100% u can accomodate for role que lol

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u allow a fill for those that dont care.

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or pick 2 roles

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donezo

round dome
bleak fable
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You sound like a salty guy who doesn't want to accept how things works.
You has not even arguments for your wild claims

round dome
# bleak fable You sound like a salty guy who doesn't want to accept how things works. You has...

Lol no it’s literally quite the opposite. Anyone who says pred has a good ranking system and distribution clearly has no idea about a good ranking system. I’m not salty I have quite a high rank and I’m sorry to say I’m one of the people who uses a different account to play with friends and if you play through all ranks you can clearly see that there are some terrible people in diamond and paragon and that there people with the same skills in gold and plat, I mean all you have to do to get to diamond and paragon is get a new acc, play with a full squad so you get a very high hidden mmr and then once you can play ranked the hidden mmr literally will do the rest because it already put you too high no matter your actual skill. That’s not a theory it’s a fact I even tested. Also I have seen people in paragon with a 50% win rate and 300h but also people with a 60% winrate and 500h in plat. How do you explain that with not a complete random ranking system and hidden mmr? Another proof for you (who probably are one of the boosted the way you def that ranking system) is when you play casual. In casual you have all ranks so it could be that a paragon gets laned with an enemy gold or silver or whatever, both visible and hidden mmr here. In NO actual good ranking system should the gold or silver win against a paragon or diamond. But in pred that literally happens ALL THE TIME independent of the jungle or other teammates.
Enough proof that pred has a terrible ranking system and this hidden mmr just boosts people who Smurf or have a high winrate in the beginning, or do you need more?

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I get that a lot of people defend that system because they reached a „rank“ they would never have reached in any game, but that doesn’t change the fact that it’s a terrible ranking distribution system lol

bleak fable