#Cruch amazing the damage

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fallow pond
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Aument

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Combo crunch

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Tegnocrata

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And executioner

fallow pond
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Perfect, this would be the complete build, it recovers a lot of life when hitting and its strongest ability does almost a thousand damage

fallow pond
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When using the build you have to give normal attacks to boost healing and damage

quasi bay
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I've been using Augmentation or Mutilator (against high HP)> Chalice (second item always) > Tainted Blade or the other augmentation/Mutilator 3rd > Draconum or Absolution for phys or mag armor 4th > finish resolution or build more defense citadel/unbroken will etc

After 4th item if you need more damage build resolution from chalice. The on hit damage goes crazy.

Usually extra forward crunch augment/ultimatum/steadfast augs with judgement crest

fallow pond
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thank you so much

grizzled thicket
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again a straight 1v1 build

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you dont win games in 1v1

vocal onyx
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Especially higher elos

quasi bay
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These higher elo matches players tend to build def early 2nd and 3rd items. They prioritize team fight situations. If you have any good items for that please explain. Draconom or Absolution are popular items for phys power and defense. You could probably throw citadel in there as well

quasi bay
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Gaia greaves provide HP, phys armor, movement speed, tenacity, and empowered basics

fallow pond
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The character defense items I have are Agawar's Aegis, Salvation, and the ones you mentioned.

fallow pond
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So this suits you better?

grizzled thicket
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while ashbringer is OP how many autos do you use in a teamfight as crunch ?

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like 4?

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also augmentation is absolutly busted and a must build on crunch

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id only build mutilatior if im against a lot of meat

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like if the enemy team has 2-3 tanks or frontliners im expected to brawl a lot with over longer times (khai,ramp,gray,sev)

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earthshaker and salvation is fine

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espacialy in that build you have made agais is kinda troll you only have 2 other hp items

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gaia greaves, augmentation, citadel are items i would look into

fallow pond
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But as such, it doesn't say that the enhanced crunch does real damage?

grizzled thicket
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what

fallow pond
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damage that ignores armor

grizzled thicket
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only 1 does but yes

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i dont see why you are saying this

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or is this just a random statement?

fallow pond
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You said that if the enemy brings 2 or 3 tanks it would be a long fight, right?

grizzled thicket
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yes if the enemy has many heroes you expect to brawl for extendet ammounts of time with id argue for mutilator

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if the enemys are only squishies id dont argue for a mutilator on crunch

fallow pond
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So it would only be advisable to put mutilation on crunch against tanks?

grizzled thicket
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in my opinion its best vs tanks against squishies you dont benefit as much from the omnivamp

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or the passives for that matter

vocal onyx
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only if you wanna heal more

fallow pond
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What lifesteal items do crunch use?

grizzled thicket
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only mutilator

fallow pond
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I want to make him capable of winning 1vs2 on the offlane

fallow pond
grizzled thicket
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yes

fallow pond
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Poor crunch

grizzled thicket
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i guess nightfall could work but you generaly want haste

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mutilator is generaly the only lifesteal item for ability based melee heroes that are physical power useres

quasi bay
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Mutilator does a % hp damage. It's not necessarily an armor counter it's an hp counter.

Ashbringer is wasted on crunch his cooldowns aren't long in my opinion.

In offlane you get ahead and when you rotate you will have lv advantage and you can 1v2 if you play it well with knock ups.

fallow pond
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Understanding what they say, it is better for me that all my objects give me life, right?

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life attack and armor

shy wolf
grizzled thicket
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saying this CC Bots like steel and rik always are crunches worst enemies

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Mutilator first helps a lot

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if im against a steel and some other CC heroes i might go absolution or legacy depending on the enemy heroes

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Citadel is also a must vs steel as 3rd or 4th item depending on your build

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against steel you also always wanna use your empowerd Q as much as possible to ignore enemy armor

quasi bay
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Crunch has a lot of outplay potential. You can take cleanse for your warrior crest for team comps that will silence or stun you.

shy wolf
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fallow pond
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This build is good (dinodance)

grizzled thicket
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i dont think you need ashbringer

fallow pond
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It is optional, although at the beginning of the game if it suits you, at the end you can change it for a plasma blade

fallow pond
grizzled thicket
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ik

fallow pond
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?

grizzled thicket
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i know

fallow pond
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then I didn't understand the ❌

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More crunch is cured with that

grizzled thicket
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cause even if it would be possible there are so many different items crunch could use that are so much better and enable him to actualy do his job

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i dont get the obsession of all "lower" elo players with DMG DMG DMG on every melee hero, there is a reason players in the high elos build the way they do

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you need enough dmg to kill enemy squishies

fallow pond
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This is one of the objects that most benefits Crunch.

grizzled thicket
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you reach that without building adc items, (exeption are AA focused heroes) that might build 1 and then more or less only bruser and tank items

grizzled thicket
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can you do it yes

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is it the best thing prob not

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if you want atkspeed on crunch you dont need more then 1 item with it, earthshaker and asolution exist and help him way more

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but i guess experiment for yourself

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ill just say it again you dont win games in lane you do it in min 25 at an obj fight

quasi bay
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Augmentation/Absolution/Salvation/Gaia Greeves are great

grizzled thicket
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based

quasi bay
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You need some defense. You just end up being so squishy as crunch if you don't build them

grizzled thicket
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you win every 1v1 even if you build full bruser so why build more dmg

quasi bay
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If you jungle as crunch augmentation and berserker axe goes crazy.

fallow pond
fallow pond
grizzled thicket
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yeah the problem is that you get insta blown up in teamfights

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i belive you when you say you can do work with that build but belive me if you climb a few ranks youll see 🙂

fallow pond
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If it holds, since I don't stupidly throw myself to my death, I throw myself well and kill the main ones that do damage.

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Crunch is not a tank, he is a fighter who takes little damage and tanks because he heals from damage.