Earthshaker actually negates Greystone's Q damage?

[rocky plaza]

Yeah it seems to make it do less damage. Weird.

[young scaffold]

Funny one

[random sage]

Something seems wrong in that video but its not doing less damage from the passive as the passive seems to be working as intended its doing about the same but for some reason he isnt getting any damage from the power

also the damage numbers arent adding together thats another bug

[random sage]

Someone needs to check if the item is giving power, that could be the bug, just like stamina tonic doesn't give any stats rn

[open garnet]

So, since no one decided to actually damage test against the enemies in the Training area that show health bars, i did.

4 greatswords + 2 items that equal the 35 power from earthshaker

4 greatswords + earthshaker

as you can see, earthshaker does more damage because of the passive (and yes, i calculated grey passive, ignore the lower HP in the first picture, i just took a sec to screenshot)

So what you guys saw was just a visual number stacking bug

Please do proper testing

Tested again with lots of HP and DR to make sure the passive was even less present, this is earthshaker again

this is the power equivalent

testing was conducted 3 times across 3 different sessions, always produced the same outcome

What's more concerning is that the damage increase is only 0.2622% increased, which should actually be 12%

tested multiple times, earthshaker only produced a 0.198-0.228% increase vs prime and fang

Which, is strange, because it should either be a 12% increase, or 0%

both times i tracked the passive, passive provided equal power boost to both Earthshaker and non-earthshaker

Anyone have a single idea where the Variance is coming from?

Tested again adding the HP to match the Hp granted from earthshaker, same thing

Well

Decided to test other abilities, against the steel

the E does 162 damage with Full stacks of Earthshaker, and 162 without any <- Ignore this

Turns out that empowered basics do not benefit from earthshaker

So there's that

Upon testing the jump, it went from 154 to 163

Which is only an increase of 5.84%

now i'm just lost

[random sage]

I'll go in tonight and figure out what the variance is. But the original clips showed earthshaker passive working but the power not

[open garnet]

we are having bigger issues

The rounding for damage is RNG

[random sage]

I have a feeling I know what it is

But I want to test it first (will be doing in depth testing for a few options on what it is) but will report back results and exactly how to replicate it later

[open garnet]

So, on the topic of bigger issues, the steel in the training has an assumed DR value of 53.15% to physical, form his base prots, that is fine.

Pre Mitigation:

• Auto damage = 143
• Leap damage = 326
  Post mitigation
• Auto damage = 67 (should be 66.9955, or 67)
• Slam damage = 154 (Should be 152.731, 153 if we round up)

Earthshaker Damage is supposed to be an increase of 12%, so you should expect the 154 to turn into 172.48, however instead, it results in the slam hitting for 163

Which means the damage calculation for earthshaker is not (Ability damage * Damage taken) Earthshaker Damage

nor is it (Ability damage * Earthshaker Damage) Damage taken

It is, for some fucked reason (Ability damage (Earthshaker damage * Damage taken)) Damage taken

because Earthsaker is reduced twice

as it is cut from 12% down to around 6% ish

so it's not ever 12% increased damage

unless you full shred an enemy

it is 1 + (12 x Damage reduction)

This is misleading, because in reality, this really just means your power is increased by 12% for an ability.

we can test this by

Greystone assault the gates at max lvl is: 290 + 90% bonus power, which is 321 power when using earthshaker (35 x .9, Similar to the 326 from earlier, but that's because crest gave me a tiny bit)

So, 321 x 0.4685 (Aka 53.15% DR), is 150.3885

Slam hits for around 152, that's fine, we can assume there's some rounding going on somewhere

But now, at max stacks of earthshaker, where slam should be hitting for 152 x 1.12 (170.24)

Slam instead hits for 161

So now, if instead of increasing ability damage, we increase bonus power, we get

290 + (31 x 1.12), which results in 324.72
Reducing that final number by damage reduction, and rounding down everywhere we can, we get 152

which is not even the 161 from earthshaker

So it is not increasing bonus physical power

Instead, if we apply the DR to earthshaker

12 x 0.4685, we get 5.622, and if we then apply that as a final ability damage multiplier to the original slam damage from earlier, we get 158.23, which is the closest we've gotten to the 161 slam damage

i've honestly lost track now

We realistically have 0 clue how or what earthshaker really does

Besides assuming Earthshaker % is reduced by DR before applying, and that there's some funny rounding

[open garnet]

as i stated ^

Or maybe i'm just lost and forgot how to math