Bring Back Old Item Effects as New Items (Old Magnify, Old Prophecy, Etc.)

[nova raptor]

I never understood why reworking everything and not just put new items instead into the game.

[feral adder]

me neither especially with the limited selection of items.

was there a reason to remove Tec Mallet? no well why was it removed then and replaced by the shitty mistwood buckler

[gleaming kestrel]

Tec mallet didnt allow for more moves peed items etc without them giving too much extra power with tec mallet

[sonic wraith]

my guess is new items will conflict with other ones so they have to make room for them

[feral adder]

Simple solution reduce the power scaling and movement speed

They did this with every other item in 6 items there is no reason why this couldn't have been done

[gleaming kestrel]

Then that's just a rework which defeats your point

[feral adder]

No that would be an adjustment to the item not a rework it would still be the same item, the only change would be the scaling and stats

Passive and stat layout would still be the same

Similar to Stonewall they reduced the scaling of it not sure when they removed the stun they need to bring that back as an anti CC item

[gleaming kestrel]

Then it would be useless without just a movespeed only build

[gleaming kestrel]

In the .18 patch
And it was never an anti cc item I thought

[feral adder]

Then it wouldn't be useless because it is a move speed build

[feral adder]

It was technically since once you go to 40% it can save you from being stun chained

Dear lord I hated that shit

Wished Tenacity was a better stat

[gleaming kestrel]

It would make it very bad
Its simpler just to remove it than balance it perfectly every time

[feral adder]

Sounds like a way to make the game boring by not even trying

[limber patio]

65 magic power is wild

[feral adder]

That is on the low side wild would be 80 to 90

It's close to the Magic Power of a support item

And both have no effect no effect on abilities only a select few passives and actives

[limber patio]

i’m an idiot

youre correct

[feral adder]

Orb of Growth is 120

[limber patio]

ive been playing too much support

[feral adder]

World Breaker would be close to 160 or more on heroes like Sevarog

Yeah WB on Sev is like 215 with 3500 Bonus Health which I have gotten before

[feral adder]

Chrono Weave would be a good support item a little attack speed and on hit damage for building Haste would mesh well with Marshall and other support items

Anyways I purposely made sure the numbers where low and revised the numbers so that it isn't broken but a neat niche item that would fit well into the game

[feral adder]

@fossil prawn I need your opinion on this garbage!

[frigid narwhal]

I think tec mallet was removed because it would be broken with Gaia

[fossil prawn]

Uh new items are always good to have 6 new ones coming in next patch! Some of these items you have in the post seem oppa oppa

[feral adder]

Oppa oppa?

[fossil prawn]

It just means strong as hell

😂

[feral adder]

Not very strong I made the Stats and passive rather tame even with prophecy oathkeeper accounted for you cant really push past 240 magic basics and you would be missing out on the benefits of haste if you go any item that boost the damage of abilities such as Wraith and Caustica

[feral adder]

For Example Typhoon | Prophecy > Shard > Chrono > O. Crown > Oathkeeper > Lifebinder that would be 566 Magic Power and a total of 68 Haste so around 170 Magic Basics and 240% Attack Speed

In the case of grim and muriel it would be higher but they would lack % damage but still in fairness that is around 120 more magic basic which would add up to 290 + 10% = 329

Does this change much of what they are currently capable of doing? No it just improve itemization and gives them more attack speed it also opens up options for more APC characters.