How to offlane melee against ranged hero?

[pseudo creek]

It seems that every time I try to play offlane, I face off with Kira. I usually play Sev and Steel when I go offlane melee but I can't do anything. She can just run after me and hit basics and I can't do anything about it. Im stuck staying back and watching her farm until the minions are right at might tower. And even then, its not always worth it.

I know the obvious answer is to have your teammates rotate but thats not always easy. Whats the best strategy when playing offlane melee against a ranged pick?

[candid saddle]

Tainted guard and razorback - play safe and then level 6 let the feeding commence.

Carry offlane does not work unless they get a massive lead on you.

Sev will punish a carry in the offlane if played correctly

[robust oar]

i had the same problem for a while, but was usually against murdoc. very important to not make mistakes in first 3 levels when you get all your abilities, so dont die then.

if they start shooting you with basics, let them do it but try to evade as much as possible, and if hit - your minions will attack them, and do quite a bit of damage. and focus on their ranged minions first.

if they keep autoing you get second ability that has mobility. just hit your basics and you will win always after that.

also very important always freeze the lane as much as possible.

Carry wil never work 1v1, only if their jungler is living in offlane

[summer spade]

Alright I’m a adc offlane main so I can tell you exactly what counters

The BIGGEST COUNTER to an adc offlane is purely freezing the lane

Obviously yeah building tainted guard first is gonna help, but when it comes down to those first 3 waves of minions of the game, stay back and let them push the wave, and only walk up to get your cs

Obviously don’t let them hard shove and stack a wave to get the lane reset, like I said the biggest counter is freezing the lane, because as an off meta pick, an adc offlane will be a huge target to a jungler

Any good person will know that and know that can not walk up past the river without knowing where the jungler is, if they don’t, it’s free kills

As far as boxing, you have to be smart, you really should only see drong, murd, and Kira off, any other carry is a throw

They have peel in their kits, and so you have to bait out the peel in the kits before you can make a full engagement if you’d like, keep track of their timers on abilities and such like Kira’s dash, drong ult and silence, murd shotgun, etc

I have my ways to work around a good freezing offlaner but I’ll leave it at that

Oh and no, your level 6 spike doesn’t mean jack shit to us

[robust oar]

how can you come up to pick a cs as a melee, when they're gonna attack you with basics to pull your minnion aggro and mess up the pathing on minions and you mess up last hitting. IT never works, cus they outfarm you always form distance like that and shove the wave. it works if you dont mess up first levels and then thats that good bye, ofc always freeze but only after the fighting

[summer spade]

Well half the time, offlaners are tanky so you can afford to take one auto to come up and cs when a minion is red

But if they aggro you, then just know that their wave is shoving against you now so they fucked up

Unless you match the wave push

[robust oar]

yes but we know that you will get 3-4 autos by the time you come and retreat. of course it happens that they miss some cs this way, but not always. honestly i havent seen as much adc in offlane recently. and after they nerf murdoc i think we dont see adcs in offlane almost never.