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[balmy tundra]

Bruiser Kritmeira (khaimera)

[tropic vortex]

I'm going to try this right now

Been replacing aug with bonesaw then mut

It feels weak though

[heady lichen]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/358610462658527243/1063391946065846292/Khaimera_Jungle.jpg

For easier viewing.

[balmy tundra]

thannnk youu ima steal that

[heady lichen]

Of course 😄

I'm gonna do this for all your posts.

[verbal kiln]

I'm not convinced that ADC items is the play on Khai. He doesn't scale like an assassin. But at least someone found a use for Tectonic mallet 😂

[balmy tundra]

pacifier is for mobility reasons. and well. dust devil is a good item when looking at the passive.

thats the only reasoning for the 2 adc items. also if needing a 2nd cleanse in reeeeaally heavy cc comps liberation is bis no matter what who says.

[bright swift]

what kinda crusty ass build is dis

I put my trust in you Mr

time to try

[balmy tundra]

its the corgi goes uuga buuga build

[bright swift]

its unga bunga Corgi

that jus sounds racist what you said lmao

[main pivot]

Liberator - Second Cleanse and let's you survive multiple ults.

Resolution - 35% Crit creates a huge power spike by third or second T3.

Ashbringrer - CDR and AP

Sky Splitter - Percentage damage incredibly good on Khaimera.

Basilisk - Feeds off of Sky Splitter allowing you to burst down even tanks in matter of seconds.

Mutilator - Percentage damage that stays consistent.

[balmy tundra]

oh well what uuga buuga is then?

[balmy tundra]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1022481547124805703/1063465848334979122/Nayttokuva_20230112_033911.png

this is the average game with the build

[main pivot]

It's ok

[balmy tundra]

what kinda games you get if you have more kills thats allready alot in most of my games and if someone gets +20kills they are stalling on purpose. and not using their advantage.

[main pivot]

Try Draconum it offers attack speed and improved healing

I usually get 30

Basilisk + Sky Splitter on Khaimera is currently broken

I was gonna get a screenshot of some of my games but I haven't uploaded them yet

This is with the old build but it should give you an idea.

https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/5106550631937232269/D288FE9B0305ACA195A0E3E65A897D5AF27C57DA/?imw=5000&imh=5000&ima=fit&impolicy=Letterbox&imcolor=%23000000&letterbox=false

[balmy tundra]

if that fits your playstyle sure why not. 6 deaths just talks more of a got hit by 1 cc and instantly melted kind of situation with that amount of kills. i personally prefer this and have been having good results so 🤷‍♂️

[main pivot]

The six death from this match was because I decided 1v5 was a good idea I eventually Penta.

Plus this is old build

Now I use Liberator and can outbox a steel

[balmy tundra]

ehhh

thats a liberator i see right there

and if you can 1v5 grux khaimera fey and riktor back to back the enemy team was just straight out dogshit

[verbal kiln]

Pub stomping doesn't mean it is a good idea.

[main pivot]

@balmy tundra with lib you get a high defense shield with a cleanse and Khaimera has another cleanse making it two and you can get a third cleanse with Ashbringrer with cdr.

[balmy tundra]

wow

[main pivot]

I play Khaimera way too much

[balmy tundra]

i will just delete all the fucking builds in here and only share them on the private server if this is the kinda conversation that will be had in these.

[bright swift]

ye I jus went sleepin valley's build and was 12-0, I fucked em

[main pivot]

Your build is ok

Especially since you got high attack speed without relying on q.

But his Q grants 420% Attack Speed, so you are better off building passives.

Because if you build attack speed you are making his Q ability worthless.

So it's better to focus Damage, Durability or Ability Haste

[balmy tundra]

well if you bothered to try the build

you would know that you hit 400 attack speed with q

so it doesnt make it worthless

augmentation gives bonus true damage on hit (+30% base physical power)

dust devil gives power and movement speed

tectonic gives power based of bonus movementspeed

there is a reason for every item

on this build

[verbal kiln]

I mean, you need to be ready to support your build and be open to criticism. You're opting for ADC Khai, which is pretty universally known as just a pubstomping tactic. It doesn't hold up in higher level play, which is fine. It's fun as shit to do occasionally. You just have to be willing to accept that's what it is.

[balmy tundra]

where is this a adc build?

that is my question

[main pivot]

Khaimera is by default an ADC.

[balmy tundra]

ok can you leave you dont belong here for real

[verbal kiln]

Using ADC items adc building crit.

[main pivot]

He has only two offensive abilities and one of those is his ult

He relies on his basic attack

[verbal kiln]

He scales like a bruiser. The synergy you have is great m totally agree. Using Dust Devil to power up Tectonic Mallet finally makes use of the damn thing, which is an awesome idea.

It's just a niche idea. It would be good to have I'm your back pocket if you end up in the right kind of draft.

Probably an excellent Kallari counter.

[main pivot]

I'll try this build out later though and give my input

I can see it being good

[verbal kiln]

Can I ask why Liberator vs Brutallaxe?

[main pivot]

Me?

Liberator has a cleanse

[verbal kiln]

No, you think Khai is an ADC 😂

So does Brutallaxe

[balmy tundra]

shield based on physical power.

[main pivot]

Really doesn't it have 60% tenacity

[verbal kiln]

Oh okay, that makes sense. Forgot about the shield.

[heady lichen]

https://tenor.com/view/will-smith-what-the-hell-whats-going-on-here-gif-25539027

[bright swift]

3 of the most powerful minds conglomerating in the Predecessor build channel

[balmy tundra]

its legit one of the best crests in the game atm.

[bright swift]

they are discussing Khaimerology

[verbal kiln]

Oh I don't disagree. It's a great item. I was just wondering why one cleanse vs the other. Forgot about the shield.

[main pivot]

@verbal kiln I am still new to the MOBA genre and only got into it because of Paragon but ADC is Attack Damage and I guess Carry which I should probably be calling it Hero instead so that people don't think I mean that he should be in the duo lane

[heady lichen]

As individuals discussing a build, the discussion seemed too serious.

[bright swift]

let em cook bruh

they are discussing optimal strategy

[heady lichen]

Like true pioneers.

[verbal kiln]

He's not an ADC or ADH. He's a bruiser.

[main pivot]

Ok bruiser means?

[balmy tundra]

And i usually make my builds to have a synergy with the character. like khaimeras passive has movement speed most of the items have that too. he has great use for attack speed so that is in there too. survivability in form of what 700 bonus health and topping it off with the mallet.

[verbal kiln]

Dude, I'm just impressed to see someone using Mallet. It seems so bad. I can see the logic here, though. I often forget he gets movement speed after after, what? 15stacks?

[balmy tundra]

yeah 15 stacks and you get 10% movement speed

augmentation is 15%

aand dust devil 15%

(+ the 3 static movement speed)

+5 from tectonic

[verbal kiln]

Good stuff.

[balmy tundra]

and if hit by slow tectonic throws a 10% on top of that

[verbal kiln]

I also don't agree with Demon Edge. I think Draconum, Legacy, or Salvation would be better for the intended purpose. But again, I usually build heavier into the Bruiser angle.

[balmy tundra]

demon edge is the up to debate item in this one for sure. and maybe the easiest to switch for a situational like levi or unbroken

since it offers only + power or + omnivamp

[verbal kiln]

Could also go that route. Not sure Leviathan would be the play there. Unless you are specifically trying to counter Countess. Tainted Guard is usually better, but I guess you don't build a lot of armor in this build.

[balmy tundra]

yeah thats the thing with levi. until shinbi comes out countess is legit the only reason to build levi 😄

and im always up for criticism. but for me personally that was kinda just a hot take. "adc build so its only good for pub stomping" is not criticism

[verbal kiln]

Agreed. You could make an argument for Riktor, as well. Electrocute would proc the 10% reduction, but Unbroken would protect better against the stuns. So probably only want it after Unbroken Will is online.

[bright swift]

dont worry Corgi, I jus did yours too against a harder team, and went 10-1

[balmy tundra]

im fiiiine dont worry

also its really amazing how well leviathan actually works against countess.

completely destroys her burst

[bright swift]

fella like me knows Battlerite shits on dis game

[heady lichen]

Battlerite in its high, shits on every game 😄

[hollow blaze]

The build seems interesting, but definitely not a "bruiser" khai, so certainly mislabeled. I think if you are going for a bursty/all dmg build like this one then something along the lines of what sleeping Valley posted where you build crit starting with reso and skysplitter (I usually also go terminus) is just much more consistent.

If you wanted to actually go a bruiser then you need to cut the movement speed stuff, build liberator instead of pacifier, and build items like Citadel and Draconum

for my Bruiser build its usually
Warriors> Fenix

1. Bonesaw
2. Overlord
3. Citadel
4. Draconum
5. Salvation/Unbroken Will/Raiment (depending on enemy comp and if they were smart enough to build antiheal or not)

[balmy tundra]

well it sure isnt a pure glass cannon build either so what it is then?

[hollow blaze]

I think thats the problem, it doesn't fit well into all in assassin and its certainly not a bruiser. so its kind of a midrange build which isnt that great at either function

I think the movespeed synergy is very cool but hard to see the practicality in a vacuum. Most team fights youre just jumping around you dont need a lot of MS

Im wondering if a build like this wouldn't be more suited for grux

[balmy tundra]

augmentation, tectonic and bonesaw are items that i use alot on grux.

[hollow blaze]

Yeah augmentation is really good on grux, so it seems like a cool combo for him.

[balmy tundra]

but crit is a absolute nono on grux i would never do such thing

[verbal kiln]

Crit is a nono on Khaimera, but here we are. 😂

[hollow blaze]

Why would you think crit is a nono on someone who does 95% of their damage through auto attacks?

[balmy tundra]

well the crit isnt the point in the build at all. just happens to be so that the items with strong passives/actives happen to have crit.

[hollow blaze]

I would probably change demons edge to ashbringer then you could get up to 60% crit actually. And Demons edge is pretty bad on Khai. Its really ment for ranged ADC and kallari. Because when you get to 50% hp the item is completely worthless. 2900 for something that only gives 10 omni and 35% armor pen is awful

And you do need crit because otherwise you don't build the movement speed off of dust devil

[balmy tundra]

slight adjustment. switched demon edge for overlord. goes well into the build

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1007490151104131144/1063533979225030737/image.png

[hollow blaze]

Hm I think if you like overlord in there I would maybe cut dust devil then, 40% crit is just pretty low to be trying to get stacks. You'd have to hit like 13 times before you are on average at max stacks. thats a lot of hits

I would cut dust devil for something like Citadel or Basilisk which builds health to synergize well with bonesaw and overlord and still gives armor pen which you'd now be lacking

[balmy tundra]

3-4 attacks per second = max 4 seconds

[balmy tundra]

legit this is what ive been running. i will be running for time being until shit gets nerfed and so far i havent lost a single game with this build.

ive won against the scary sky splitter khaimera

[heady lichen]

Okay this build slaps.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/358610462658527243/1063558823958282271/Screenshot_41.jpg

[heady lichen]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/358610462658527243/1063565031389806682/Khaimera_Jungle.jpg

[balmy tundra]

also jus building straight out health and attack speed on khaimera is straight out better since his E heal scales with bonus health

[verbal kiln]

Because crit doesn't go on bruisers. We aren't build crit on Rampage or Grux either. Granted, Rampage not a bruiser, but you get my point.

[hollow blaze]

The majority of Grux's damage doesnt come from his auto attack, it comes from his right click

But I do agree on the fact that if you are building khai like a bruiser. you shouldn't build crit because it makes him too squishy. But if you want to build him like an assassin then crit is totally viable on Khai, whereas even a glass cannon grux wouldnt build crit

[main pivot]

https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/2040727177287421073/F4B136EE15B10E079D88850AC68DFAACEA3A3177/?imw=5000&imh=5000&ima=fit&impolicy=Letterbox&imcolor=%23000000&letterbox=false

ok got it.

The one death was because I thought I could win a 1v5 in an enemy tower, only managed to kill two of them before getting taken out.

A little sad I didn't manage a flawless.

they Surrendered though I think they gave up after I let their Khaimera live after gettin a quadra.

[balmy tundra]

I dont see a single item used from this build guide and yet you flood this already flood3d guide. Please make your own guide instead of leeching off mine thank you

[uncut bobcat]

Sidenote:
Some characters's AD scaling is better then Ranged ADC characters.
Sources:
https://predecessor.fandom.com/wiki/Drongo
https://predecessor.fandom.com/wiki/Khaimera

[main pivot]

@balmy tundra I already did and this was because I promised screenshots to you.

[balmy tundra]

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[verbal kiln]

LoL topic has been deleted I guess.