took me longer than the rest of the cast
#Deadlock Megathread - The new Game
digital carbon
digital carbon
Good thing about this challenge, I had fun with a lot more characters than I thought
Like paradox or grey talon
tacit wagon
wtf is valve doing pushing an update at nearly 1am their time lmao
valid warren
wtf is valve doing pushing an update at nearly 1am their time lmao
yoshi yosh
marble matrix
overrated slop
have you seen wraith king arcana second style
^^ LOL dude trying to compare expensive stuff vs low grind event skins 😭😭
mods slap his buttcheeks 
tiny tundra
Hopefully Calico isn't as overpowered as they were in hero labs
digital carbon
You think calico is broken? Look at Sinclair new ult
valid warren
Israel and Palestine in deadlock offtopic
everyone banned
digital carbon
Oh man
I just had a power outage mid game
well, after the first 5 minutes of the game
was doing well
end up coming back, game was at 13min, team was behind over 20k
one teammate even flammed me for coming back
but we still managed to win somehow
tacit wagon
oh boy, big overhaul
https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1422450/view/530965072572320687
down to 3 lanes like dota
creeps don't need to be last hit, but soul orbs are adjusted to be faster, have shorter lifetimes, and have different deny ratios
looks like park (purple) got merged into green, at least for audio purposes
new abams modeL???
fancy man
oh wait the shaders hadn't fully compiled yet the book has an effect on it too
will post image when shaders compiled
lyric locust
deadlock is back
tacit wagon
better image
tacit wagon
deadlock is back
1 less lane, 1 step closer to dota
lyric locust
they copied a bunch of dota stuff lol
tacit wagon
icefrog realized deadlock was bad and dota was better 
bad 30fps video of new model & effects since I don't have nitro
valid warren
- Increased tick rate from 60hz to 64hz to improve the precision of certain game calculations.
major
lyric locust
this is basically what i did in tc2 a few days ago
thick ravenBOT
lyric locust
66 -> 64
digital carbon
can anyone try optiscaler in it now that it has dlss?
thick ravenBOT
hardy nymph
Is there an actual advantage to having it be a terminating decimal
rather than repeating?
lyric locust
Is there an actual advantage to having it be a terminating decimal
yes
marble matrix
down to 3 lanes like dota
welp there goes innovation
marble matrix
can anyone try optiscaler in it now that it has dlss?
probably a bad idea because of the ac
and what would it be good for anyway?
the only use case i can think is replacing dlss with a version of fsr newer than the game's
like 3.1
but that's widely considered a regression compared to 2.1
digital carbon
the only use case i can think is replacing dlss with a version of fsr newer than...
fsr 2.1 or xess
woven pond
I'm okay with fake frames. I'm not okay with how they are marketed as genuine performance improvements
tacit wagon
bad 30fps video of new model & effects since I don't have nitro
with the power of webm here's this video showing off the new abams in higher quality and 60fps
looking at some old clips the biggest differences I see is that the back straps are now just 2 going up to the piece with the sigil instead of an X of 4 straps going over the shoulders
the back of the coat is a lot more detailed (that fold on the back is new)
the book had barely any VFX on it before, just this weird eye when you used the life steal, and the pages under your feet when you use the ability is new
I don't have any clips of ulting but I don't think the cracks were glowing purple before and I don't remember the animation for starting the jump
digital carbon
FAKE FRAMES!!!!!!!!!!!!
not even after framegen, just the upscalers
valid warren
tiny tundra
what a game lol
whole star
i wish this was canon
rancid escarp
2x yo abrams is kinda hot god damn it
tacit wagon
we've all been talking about how deadlock is tf2 2 but I don't think we ever considered the fact that it takes place in the same universe
even though I think tf2 would canonically take place after it
digital carbon
If it takes place in the same universe of tf2 I will shit a chicken
that would be so stupid and hilarious, I love it
tiny tundra
amazing game
valid warren
wow they show average ranks now
whole star
its ok he's new at valve, every valve employee is trained not to communicate with their fans, hopoo just found out the consequences of doing so
coral parrot
this is so cringe, omg
lyric locust
neato
marble matrix
its ok he's new at valve, every valve employee is trained not to communicate wit...
who would've known valve silence is deliberate and not unintentional
i fucking hate valve
i would like to apologize for my previous comment
tiny tundra
I'd assume most companies would tell their employees not to talk about private development in public
merry idol
usually backed by NDAs, but I doubt "we're working on cool stuff" is specific enough to be an NDA problem
rustic quest
should've said they were working on boring stuff
whole star
who would've known valve silence is deliberate and not unintentional
i feel like you didnt interpret what i said as a joke
woven pond
I wonder if developers talking about the work that is already done is a good idea
Like more details on why something is the way it is, rather than talking about something that is upcoming
marble matrix
i feel like you didnt interpret what i said as a joke
i feel like you didnt interpret what i said as a joke
merry idol
I wonder if developers talking about the work that is already done is a good ide...
i think its cool to explain things because its interesting. But inevitably you get armchair designers arguing about it
noble shell
its ok he's new at valve, every valve employee is trained not to communicate wit...
He's geeking so hard lmao
ornate moss
Some streamer accidentally leaked the WIP heros from a preview build lol
marble matrix
gooners won
don't let bro find out about 'marvel rivals'
don't let bro see my avatar
whole star
bro relapsed
ornate moss
gooners won
Famous artist uglycoal
digital carbon
Honestly I liked what I saw
Excited to see more polised visuals
And what abilities the new heroes have
digital carbon
maybe
if it does, neat
If not, there's always the half life game that will be announced any day now
right?
RIGHT?!
marble matrix
by the end of the year
and then we'll get spammed with WE GOT HALF LIFE 3 BEFORE GTA 6 AHHHH
tiny tundra
looks cool
digital carbon
Yeah the new patch is great
everything is broken
in a good crazy way
like grey talon with under 30k being able to delete 2k health with one shot
whole star
tacit wagon
rip in peace grandma grey talon
whole star
they colonized him
tacit wagon
isn't the point that he's supposed to be native american or did they change the lore
valid warren
colonized ✅
tacit wagon
wouldn't this be the exact opposite of colonized or am i just too tired
tiny tundra
what
I just got put in an archon game as a ritualist
I live in NA I thought my matchmaking wasn't supposed to be that awful
valid warren
game
marble matrix
what game
marble matrix
rip in peace grandma grey talon
rest in peace in peace?
or the verb rip literally?
marble matrix
im happy they turned neon prime into deadlock it's a better concept
digital carbon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQpXTwxu7tY
Goes to show that valve was right
whole star
valve fans on their way to recreate something valve scrapped for being shit
thick ravenBOT
digital carbon
valve fans on their way to recreate something valve scrapped for being shit
monday amirite?
I wonder if such project would happen if neon prime was just a discarded project from a company like ubisoft that happened to leak online
lyric locust
i think it has an indie charm to it
whole star
valve fans on their way to recreate something valve scrapped for being shit
not implying what they made is bad
i love it when the community does shit like this
i eat it up
valid warren
ooh you looooove eating
valid warren
holey moley.. the deadelocker
— kali id 21 rip -> Viper
— gunslinger id 38 rip
— yakuza id 39 rip
— tokamak id 47 rip
— wrecker id 48 rip
— rutger id 49 rip
— thumper id 51 rip
— slork (fathom) id 53 — labs, rip
— cadence id 54 rip
— bomber id 56 rip
— shieldguy id 57 — Doorman?
— vandal id 59 — Frank/Victor?
— trapper id 61 rip
— operative (Raven) id 62 — labs rip?
deadlock turns marvel rivals
marble matrix
there was a character codenamed yakuza?
leaden anchor
the new menu is beyond sick
coral parrot
deadlock turns marvel rivals
they do be wanting to make people get over Ivy
actually, if they really did they just needed to make one of them jobless
whole star
wait til u find out why they called viper like that
whole star
btw in case you needed more proof icefrog works on deadlock
marble matrix
wait can we fetch his steam profile from that as well?
whole star
i dont speculate on icefrogs name 🤫
merry idol
icefrog is robin walker
valid warren
wait can we fetch his steam profile from that as well?
u already have his profile
who nose how old deadlock is
maybe deadlock is the reason dota looks like it does today
leaden anchor
btw in case you needed more proof icefrog works on deadlock
;-;
who are these cute people who think he doesn't
digital carbon
X
Portal 3 confirmed
Remains to be seen if this will tank your framerate like dr. strange in rivals
valid warren
You can counterspell Doorman's ult
making bro ineffective
ornate moss
Huh these portals aren't that well implemented
coral parrot
Huh these portals aren't that well implemented
whats the issue you are trying to show?
ornate moss
Clip planes are fucked
valid warren
Clip planes are fucked
why shouldnt they be
marble matrix
that's why they aren't that well implemented
marble matrix
does source2 have 1-frame thread lag?
valid warren
cant believe we got pike & rengar & lee sin combo as a hero.
valid warren
drifters fun. and too strong in mid to late game
leaden anchor
Victor seems to be tons of fun
A wraith king and necrophos blend
seems could be really fun to itemize with
tiny tundra
I just got placed in an archon match as a rit 2 lol
tiny tundra
oh they redid ranks
wintry falcon
yeah lol, i went from seeker 1 to arcanist 5
whole star
the latest deadlock tournament is sponsored by trolli
they replaced the mid boss model and certain ingame advetisement boards to be trolli themed
tiny tundra
interesting
leaden anchor
Even post multiple nerfs
deadlocks amalgamation of Wraith King, Necrophos and Huskar is still broken
and insanely fun to play
whole star
lyric locust
Deadlock Megathread - The new Game
wintry falcon
valid warren
are those new icons theyve drawn
valid warren
love em
wintry falcon
same, so used to them whenever i take them off i to try harder to see what characters they are lol
velvet flint
whole star
https://tenor.com/view/sh-quiet-india-indian-tiktok-gif-16906342 niterux trollingt
tiny tundra
elfin umbra
probably a shot in the dark but does anybody know how to reach the deadlock discord mod team if you are not in the deadlock discord
whole star
why do you need to talk to them
elfin umbra
removed from that server over a year ago for responding poorly to dozens of ppl harassing me at once for Pronouns In Bio reasons and was told by the mods before that happened that they would help with people being transphobic but all of them unadded me since then
like chat moving at 20mph but every other message in chat is about me type harassment
whole star
sorry to hear about those things, why not try joining the deadlock discord
elfin umbra
tried but not rly sure where to post and never got a response
wintry falcon
no idea, i just got a friend to give me the invite since i got them into the game
got no answer from forums
elfin umbra
erm
been 7 minutes now and there's 68k people online
restart game time
is matchmaking like down right now?
elfin umbra
is matchmaking like down right now?
yes
tacit wagon
i can’t forward on mobile (still using pre-react native discord client ) but yoshi just put out a ping saying the queue times should be fixed @elfin umbra
elfin umbra
just had a steamroll street brawl that lasted 20 minutes because the enemy team kept coming to our spawn and killing us instead of fighting the walker :)
coral parrot
yes
I thought your friend said they fucked their brother in the meantime while the game wasn't working
tacit wagon
deadlock is going great
tacit wagon
ok idk if any mobas have this but deadlock like... needs some way to tell you what has changed in your build
like half my builds a lot of the items are just missing or a completely different tier and type (infuser moment)
instead of just telling you "oh yeah your build is outdated lmao"
like
my builds are from fucking 2024
tiny tundra
to be fair if you're making your own builds you're probably supposed to follow changes to items
a built in system to help with that would be nice though
not like I have tried making my own build yet though lol
tacit wagon
to be fair if you're making your own builds you're probably supposed to follow c...
i’m not looking deeply at the patch notes for a game i’m not playing
i did try to do that for a bit (didn’t update my builds though), but without actually playing it’s a bit hard to know how everything changes
they’re mostly my own custom builds, a few are edits on pre-existing builds but it looks like those were also outdated now
tbh if they even gave like dates for the patches that changed the item for me to look it up myself (although with how they do patches now they can do patch names) i would accept that as like… it’s not an ideal solution but it’s workable
there is also the issue of character changes but that’s a bit different
for example i found out last night just how much they seem to have nerfed the duration scaling on seven’s weapon buff, it used to be that i could imbue other abilities with cooldown or duration and still get essentially perma uptime (although it looks like they made it so that the imbue is now only for the tier 1 of that item? i think that’s an interesting and understandable change tbh)
although overall it is nice how little the game has changed in some regards that after like a day of playing the 4v4 mode i was basically back in the swing of things, minus game sense and economy stuff from the main gamemode
like the biggest ability changes from the characters i play are like… a few ability upgrades and keybinds, like changing the speed up bind from left click to W
surprisingly even got some supportive teammates understanding that i’m just coming back to the game once i mention it, although it seems like my casual MMR is a bit boosted from the last time i played, last night i got queued with a mcginnis who also was coming back from a long break, but the rest of the server seemed to be much more experienced/up to date, i think one of the players said they were “purple 4” and i forgot to check ranks so idk how high that is
i probably should look at premade builds but i’m always hesitant to do that because i don’t really fully know what i’m getting until i try it
and i hate like… metaslave shit so i’m even more hesitant to look at the most popular builds
tacit wagon
I mean i'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt that its uh, low on their priority list rn
like the game technically isn't out yet still
wide blade
this game sucks ass
tacit wagon
I guess my skill rating didn't decay over the time that I wasn't playing
apparently I was like archon 5???
no wonder i'm getting my shit pushed in
I'm playing like total dogshit while I'm still trying to get back into the game and I'm getting matched with archon players
tacit wagon
this probably isn't that impressive but it was my first time playing rem and it was funny
also apparently the steam recording support they added to deadlock uses the old neon prime assets for the npcs lmao
i remember seeing these in the games files a year or 2 ago
very funny
old walker
tiny tundra
apparently I was like archon 5???
they changed the ranks so everyone got moved up
I'm pretty sure there's rank decay though
tacit wagon
i mean archon 5 after not playing for a year is really high
thick ravenBOT
tacit wagon
i’ve already dropped down to rank 2 in the previous rank i forgot the name of
I actually had a really good and close game last night though
finally getting back into it
that game was like, bad start, big comeback in the middle, and then the enemy team managed to come back from that and beat us while their patron was already on its last phase
wide blade
waiting mastercomfig for deadlock to play the game
coral parrot
waiting mastercomfig for deadlock to play the game
Precompile shaders bro
leaden anchor
keeping fern alive through the nerfs
tiny tundra
waiting mastercomfig for deadlock to play the game
with that low of gpu usage I don't think turning down the graphics is even helping much lol
tacit wagon
I love playing seven so much
late game is so fun
65k souls at the end compared to second highest (in the game) 55k
granted 8.5k was from trophy collector, which might be one of my favorite items now
8.5k souls over 30 minutes as passive income is crazy
sure it requires kills and assists but holy fuck
here's what my breakdown looked like
I'm a little sad that perma uptime on power surge is much harder to get now, but thats like a really reasonable balance change
nearly hitting it without improved duration or superior duration late game, but only being off by a few seconds is good enough for me
wintry falcon
we movin up in the world
tiny tundra
oracle is painful, I don't think you'll want to be here
although I'm sure every rank is painful right now
wintry falcon
i suddenly jumped ranks ??
signal plank
tiny tundra
?
merry idol
https://fixupx.com/imthetroubadour/status/2019840852005359627?s=46&t=G315G40pkc7...
is that the guy that put asmongold in his show and had asmongold be correct about everything
tacit wagon
I managed to take a lot of damage from the mysterious 7th player
wintry falcon
Trooper #1952
tacit wagon
real
I think I've lost the sauce I used to have with infernus :/
my DoT build just can't keep up anymore
its too slow to start and requires too many item slots
although looking at some builds it looks like I still use a lot of the same items so idk what I'm missing
none of these builds seem to really use mystic vuln though? huh
I guess thats a start
tacit wagon
huge update an hour ago
whole star
wide blade
hi
is there a way to view/debug the panorama hud? like the vgui_drawtree in tf2 or inspecting elements in web browser
wide blade
you need to enable the dev mode inspector
you know how?
wide blade
ah ok i openned with -dev and f6 opens the panorama debugger, however it doesnt really works
i mean im on linux and my pc doesnt run at 30 fps deadlock but...
tacit wagon
huh, apparently I already had that set, explains a bit
tiny tundra
what rank are you
tiny tundra
unranked
the default (and only) gamemode is ranked, you can view your rank in your player profile
just wondering where you are if you're able to get this high of kill counts lol
tacit wagon
the true fix to ranked vs unranked stuff truly is to just make the main gamemode technically be ranked
forest violet
wide blade
i've just thought how the hud from dark souls could easily fit in deadlock
whole star
tacit wagon
I wanted really badly to make a rem build that focuses on the helpers doing lane stuff and annoying enemies
and the core of the build was mystic reverb on the helpers
check out this epic end of game damage breakdown
for reference, I picked up spirit burn in the last like 3 minutes of the game
unfortunately, I think this build sucks shit
we still won somehow
whole star
iirc if you use helpers level 1
on a trooper in lane
u just megabuff ur trooper and make it annoying to kill lmao
i think probably best used on healing troopers so you can make the enemy work more to get heals
i kinda miss the old healing trooper though
i feel like lanes are too simple
because of that change
healing items were almost always a must have
but now i feel like
if youre good enough
u can skip lane heals
even if ur bad u just need to get the healing orb by killing the trooper
tacit wagon
I think my disappointment with the helpers in this build is just that the only scaling they have is the hp/s that the creeps get while they're on them
a stat which becomes less and less meaningful as the game goes on, and more characters can one shot or nearly oneshot all of them with a single ability
although with that being said, I can definitely see how having them scale more would be an issue, since the creeps normally only scale by getting spirit resist over time, and +50% hp 35 minutes in
honestly I think you could kind of say that putting the helpers on creeps scales negatively over time, since it adds extra spirit damage to their attacks
and I mean tbf the buffed creeps are basically only helpful for pushing lanes, just because... thats what creeps do
trying to push them to be like also an annoyance to players past early game people who are being way too aggressive (aka: me) is just not really worth it
like I could get a bunch of things that proc with spirit damage on rem, but at that point thos items would probably be better off on my normal build, which has alchemical fire and torment pulse
maybe the build would be better if there was like a spirit version of monster rounds, but the idea of that item seems like a bad idea to me
tacit wagon
oops i gamed hard
really hard
i've also remembered that I have this unfortunate thing where if I do good as infernus basically comes down to if I have a good laning phase
if I lose lane its going to be terrible
lyric locust
if only i played deadlock more
forest violet
mastercomfig for deadlock
woven pond
when will the deadlock SDK launch?
tacit wagon
tacit wagon
lmaooooo
that geist deserved to be hit by an 18 wheeler as a child sitting in the middle of the road
thick ravenBOT
merry idol
when the melee character gets into melee range before you even notice them, and you lose the fight 🤯
(i dont play deadlock thats just what it looked like to me)
wide blade
billy is based on this? honest question
forest violet
X
coral parrot
wide blade
PEAK
wide blade
real question to moba players
how tf do you even read these updates?
the game seems fun and im trying to play but sometimes it just seems a big crushing up numbers machine and it feels like you need to understand what all variables are and how they work and process and being added multiplied whatever
kinda exaggerated but idk...
tacit wagon
personally I only really read the stuff for characters/items I use or wanted to see changed
I skimmed the rest
it is worth noting that a lot of the patch notes here are just shuffling of pre-existing things
like a lot of the ability upgrades got shuffled into the ability's base stats, vice-versa, moved between upgrade tiers, etc.
so its not quite as long of a patch as it sort of seems
it is still quite big but not like... impenetrable
what really helped me is to just go in game and test it, deadlock does this great thing where it will literally tell you how much an item will affect the numbers of things
like "oh this item increases your spirit damage by 16%" and then you can hold tab and it'll tell you "ability 1: 50 -> 58"
wouldn't be surprised if other mobas do that too, but deadlock is what i have recent experience with
merry idol
how tf do you even read these updates?
most moba players listen to a youtube video of their favourite player telling them who's good now
tacit wagon
that also would not surprise me but I specifically ignore the entire community of games
make my own opinions
merry idol
sigma af ngl
forest violet
X
thick ravenBOT
primal violet
digital carbon
ez night
wintry falcon
video gaming
signal plank
primal violet
sigh let's see the replies.
whole star
wanted to complain more about the new patrons
doorman killing streak praise old vs new
drifter killing streak old vs new
victor killing streak old vs new
haze killing streak old vs new
billy killing streak old vs new
mina killing streak old vs new
like see where im going with this, the new patron performances really suck
barely feel as motivating and interesting as before
whole star
drifter killing streak old vs new
like u can feel like the patron has a stake in this and that its personal to them
u can imagine an evil grin as this is said
compared to how flat and monotone the archmother sounds
tacit wagon
honestly I agree
there are a couple of late game lines where she sort of lets down the veneer and they're the best lines she has, but I'm not a big fan of the fact that the archmother and hidden king are starting to be positioned as light & dark sort of like dota's teams
like they are both very very bad evil entities
these are the two lines I was thinking of
but yeah it doesn't have that rasp anymore and it kinda sounds weak
thick ravenBOT
tacit wagon
I kinda just tune the archmother out
the hidden king fairs a bit better and I think is an overall improvement
but the amber hand VA sounds a bit... angrier? I guess
I kinda like that
the hidden king is sinister but doesn't have that anger in some voice lines where I think it fit better with it
the real tragedy is that they're not letting any of the characters say fuck anymore
iirc archmother is the same VA and hidden king is a new VA, so its interesting that there's such a difference between her and the sapphire flame
like the fact that they re-recorded all of the lines is on one hand impressive and on the other hand confusing
tacit wagon
was that confirmed or just speculated?
whole star
confirmed and it literally just sounds like him
tacit wagon
i'm not good at recognizing VAs
tacit wagon
I mean I've seen the unofficial list
whole star
but some voice actors have come forward to say theyre involved
tacit wagon
and I knew that people had mentioned clancy brown i just didn't remember if it was confirmed
whole star
and some just have really iconic voices
tacit wagon
for some reason I thought it was denied
whole star
aiden bowen is lash cuz its literally just johnny cage's voice
thick ravenBOT
whole star
anyways i really like the new patrons
but i hate their new voices
i never realized how much their voices played a part in the game feel
thick ravenBOT
tacit wagon
I really like the hidden king but I agree that both of them do sound a bit more... disconnected
whole star
just bland
the old ones really felt like they were both evil manipulative and were very invested in their success
the new ones just feel like generic
whole star
tbh sapphire flame was always the better one
tacit wagon
like for both of them there's a couple lines where it slips out
whole star
ya
tacit wagon
but the overall direction is weaker imo
whole star
its honestly such a big part of the game that it literally like
makes me want to play less
fortunately theres a mod that brings the old lines back so
what im disappointed in though is that nobody noticed this
tacit wagon
i'm not quite as connected to them since i stopped playing for like a year or so and then came back after they changed them
whole star
the new performances just lack a lot
tacit wagon
I also kinda don't like that the patrons talk about themselves in the third person
it feels more like the patrons themselves aren't talking to you
just some random shmucks
like there's such a power in the way the old patrons said "Summon me"
thats missing now
I just realized, you know what the sapphire flame sounds like
like a disney villain
cruella deville, whats her face from the little mermaid, y'know
the sort of overacting like overbearing drama queen
primal violet
leaden anchor
wanted to complain more about the new patrons
Ig the change in the tone of voice is because its no longer the patrons addressing you.
Its the stewards of the patron who are speaking on their behalf
ornate moss
Watched a mcginnis and viscous go 2-14 each against rem and vyper who they both are very strong against........
tacit wagon
the build in question
tbh we won too early for it to get really good
I only got 2 of my late game items
despite being a tank build I got least healing on my team because I just didn't quite get there yet
comparatively, a game that went longer, which i guess... still isn't great
but it is kinda made up for by not needing a slot dedicated to spirit or bullet resilience
or in a different game where I actually managed to buy boundless spirit
I did get spirit resilience in the game that message was from though so the spirit resist did spike even higher
primal violet
wide blade
tiny tundra
did you de-christianize venator
tacit wagon
listen that bear trap is already "hex-lined", and there's clearly something going on with spirit scaling his resistances
also I'm pretty sure he's catholic
anyway venator does NOT follow all of the teachings of christ
which i guess comes with the territory of being an assassin that works for the vatican
the real answer is that I got inspired and actually made 3 tank venator builds, one for each item category, and this is just the one I've been most interested in and testing recently
the vitality one is built off of my previous build, which I know works well, although I removed a couple of spirit items from that in favor of vitality ones, and the bullet one I haven't tested but its venator so chances are it works fine lol
tiny tundra
somehow I'm in ascendant now lol
to be fair I haven't been playing normal mode much so technically that could be causing my rank to rise, however I still feel like I don't belong here
tiny tundra
I don't believe so
not sure if it stops rank decay though
I meant that if I played normal more my rank might drop
my rank just keeps getting pushed up as they readjust them, even without me playing much
tacit wagon
they're still readjusting ranks? mine hasn't really changed at all
i've just been slowly climbing archon as I win
wide blade
signal plank
wide blade
anyone playing support?
just feeling like it kinda sucks, could and probably is skill issue but just want to know about others
i dont really like playing pick heroes with high dps to carry the team
but even when it goes well for like half of the game, late game i literally cant do anything
even farming alot, could be build and skill and more but idk
tacit wagon
i tend to play more supportive characters (ivy, paige, rem) with support builds, and I don't think it happens all the time but definitely sometimes
at least in my experience a lot of games (not just as support) that end up going well early on will likely end in their team buying lots of counters, and if you don't really have counters for them (for me this happens because I struggle to figure out who I should be countering, especially if they're not an issue yet), that can result in those games where you suddenly are getting curbstomped
imo for support builds you need to be at least somewhat also putting in some items to help yourself and/or your damage out too, although I probably don't do that as much as I should.
but you're probably not going to be getting a lot of kills no matter what as supports.
some examples from my (probably also not amazing) builds include:
ivy: tesla/toxic bullets & slowing bullets midgame
paige: guardian ward near end of lane, plus surge of power on her barrier, which lets you put put ward on yourself and then use barrier to get a pretty good speed buff to get in or get out (plus also trophy collector and arcane surge so more mobility). I just run a lot of spirit on her anyway so her damage gets buffed a bit too, but really late game I might sell something for escalating exposure since it works well with the dragon (i also get extra charge early and sometimes get rapid recharge)
rem: honestly rem is just evil anyway. mystic burst is a nobrainer, plus upgrade to tank buster later. I also grab torment pulse, either suppressor or mystic slow, and depending on my team comp vs theirs either hunter's aura, heroic aura, or alchemical fire
overall I just tend to avoid any 1v1s as support since they almost never end well, which unfortunately means relying on your team... which sometimes is not very possible
honestly i'm kind of just rambling and i don't think this will help very much sorry
wide blade
dont worry 😅
tacit wagon
deadlock very intentionally is trying to avoid railroading their characters into specific roles so quite a lot of the actual "role" is in the build itself, and healers in specific are something they have nerfed so much over the course of the beta
so its really kind of difficult for me to quantify what a good support is
wide blade
i play as support heroes but dont do as much support for my team as i should, i think most of the problems will boil down to solo queue and no communication
i dont really know when to go to a teammate and help or not, and if i go i dont know if we're going forward or not, sometimes they just abandon me and 3 heroes appears to eat me (need to get better at gamesense)
but even in ok games others heroes can easily do more healing than me, like abrams, so what am i even doing
a friend that sometimes i play with decided to go with dps heroes because support and depending on the team sucks and most good players will also not have the need for support so idk
tacit wagon
I mean abrams whole thing is that he has a ton of self healing, so its not super surprising when he outheals people
other heroes it depends
its also a bit of a misleading stat because it includes barrier gained, but removes self-damage
wide blade
the game is also competitive and that leads to feel very meta oriented and i feel pressured to not try any different heroes or different builds for different things
tacit wagon
yeah that definitely is an issue
the way I sort of think about healing in this game is that you probably aren't going to full heal a teammate from low health really quick, but any extra healing can help save them from a bad situation, or keep them in the fight longer, etc.
tacit wagon
just ended a game after getting a 6-man infernus ult
ornate moss
New meta
wide blade
do you guys play with extra competitive option?
i heard it doesnt do nothing
but damn, i just get abysmal matchmaking in the abysmal matchmaking factory
i dont get any game that i can at least call good, and its not even about winning
tiny tundra
yeah matchmaking is pretty bad
I haven't been playing non-street brawl for a bit so I guess I can't say exactly, but it definitely felt like I was getting more bad games than balanced ones for a while
hoping it gets better eventually
ornate moss
Worlds most useful victor (42 minute game btw)
wintry falcon
Worlds most useful victor (42 minute game btw)
what do you mean 28k
what were they even doing
ornate moss
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