net_graph 4

[tawny ivy]

I've been told this is exploitable. That you can detect a player nearby when they are hiding. Is this real or some superstition?

[lucid kestrel]

technically, the more players , the more the green part of the graph becomes larger, but given that there are other factors like the amount of inputs they are doing, it is not feasible to read and monitor the graph

in practice the game does a good job of only networking to you the players that you can see or will see in a few seconds

it also does not network to you invisible spies, for example

if there is a 6 man push around the corner, unless you are aproaching the corner, the graph will not react

it's not based on distance, it's based on the geometry of the map and what parts of the map you are seeing or are almost being able to see

[tawny ivy]

Thank you

I asked why a server had net_graph 4 graph blocked and to see the exploit in action and they just beat around the bush

[lucid kestrel]

here is what I was describing:

this is a very exagerated example, where you can in fact get information before you would be able to visually

but normally there is too much noise and teammates entering and leaving to be able to tell anything

[minor snow]

yes it does

only potentially visible entities are networked

[exotic wind]

If invis spies weren't networked, bots wouldn't be able to target them

[untold ether]

also there are other exploits without external software that can reveal invisible spies