Counter-Strike Megathread - Trade Up // Market Down

[elfin berry]

iirc Germany loosened up so ig its legacy

[gusty cave]

ahahahahhahahah

Valve fucked up their SDL build again

I guess then enabled wayland during compilation and now the game doesn't start on linux wayland

Forcing SDL_VIDEO_DRIVER=x11 fixes the issue

and per usual the issue propagates itself to dota linux too

Why does Valve keep fucking up their SDL builds. I mean I get you are updating your SDL3 libraries but seriously atleast test your changes in a fresh install before shipping them right?

[timber geyser]

testing? whats that?

[ocean turret]

fr

[glacial sky]

doesn't add value or innovation

[timber geyser]

true

why would you hire QA testers when all they would do is test things?

waste of time and money

not like you’re constantly doing things that need testing

[ocean turret]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/666008714393944064.webp?size=48&name=funkeHmm&quality=lossless

so true fiend

I should hire you work at my company: fiendtech

[wicked rock]

that's because linux sucks

lolololo

[solar gate]

i thought you were fardtech

[ocean turret]

actually with linux

we test to make sure things don't work

[wicked rock]

what things you test smh

[ocean turret]

nuclear power plant equipment

[glacial sky]

Nucular

[ocean turret]

nuutular

[gusty cave]

cs2 183424 box2 54u IPv6 1332339 0t0 UDP *:27015

cs2 dedicated servers now have ipv6 support 😳

[ocean turret]

hot

[elfin berry]

all five people who exclusively connect via ipv6 can rejoice

[gusty cave]

This is more useful for people with the lack of access to a public ipv4

basically anybody can host internet accessible dedicated servers if this works

ahahahahah

it doesn't work

the console doesn't parse ipv6 addresses properly

team Net Connection on socket 'client' to 0.0.9.97:4900, connection #1970268692 UDP [email protected]:490

lmao

[ocean turret]

use quotes

or

put the ip config in a text file

[gusty cave]

nope still the same bug

[ocean turret]

instead of using it in a console

the file?

[gusty cave]

for some reason it parses 2401 as 0.0.9.97 and the second hex 4900 as the port number

[gusty cave]

how would i do this tho

[ocean turret]

like

you have a server.cfg or something

[gusty cave]

no this problem is client sided tho

[gusty cave]

this is on the cs2 client when i try to connect

[ocean turret]

oh owend

user

erm

dns

get a domain

[gusty cave]

i already have one

actually good idea

lemme create one just with a AAAA record

[ocean turret]

lonelypotato.potato

swag

[gusty cave]

potat.cc

anw ill need to rush to class brb

[ocean turret]

potat.cc

brb

[gusty cave]

good luck figuring out the subdomains

[ocean turret]

potato.fardfard

[gusty cave]

[NetSteamConn] Opened Steam Net Connection on socket 'client' to 0.0.0.0:27015, connection #2155181875 UDP [email protected]:27015

Yup it doesn't work

it specifically seeks out a ipv4 record

an ipv6 only subdomain doesn't get the ipv6 address

so probably the server support ipv6 and just not the client 🤔

idk

[mild locust]

*so probably the

server support ipv6 and

just not the client 🤔*

- lonely potat

[gusty cave]

hello haikubot

Error: Failed to determine download location for universe 1

CS2 is so advanced it downloads the universe 😳

[gusty cave]

i can't get rcon to work on cs2 ds 😞

[shrewd depot]

cs2 on nintendo ds!?

[minor thistle]

nintendo dedicated server

[knotty vapor]

WAIT WTF

THIS IS MONUMENTAL

[knotty vapor]

nvm

i was extremely surprised

valve has 0 ipv6 support and starting in csgo would be weird

[lilac glen]

anyone else have problems where cs2 just

switches audio devices

and removes the one you use from the list

and its not like my headphones are disconnected my music is still playing through them and like literally everything else but cs2

[versed pecan]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-tongue-orange-cat-cat-lick-cat-licking-lick-nose-gif-7243339832655805073

[lilac glen]

so swag

[wicked rock]

Localization Files Update!!!!

[knotty vapor]

i played unranked/non-prime yesterday

it’s literally silver 0

[lilac glen]

Yeah

If you wanna play never solo queue til you get a rank 🙅‍♂️🙅‍♂️

[knotty vapor]

nah i was playing on a 4 stack but one guy didn't have prime

i never solo queue

[hot granite]

https://vxtwitter.com/BowserViri/status/1709484931465023671

this is so gay

[solar gate]

CleanCS2+

[frigid dagger]

like, i understand but nothing that he changed really changes something to visibility, theres some maps that needs changes to it like overpass and the bombsite B of nuke

[solar gate]

should improve visibility by using developer test materials

nothing more visible than a graylevel

[frigid dagger]

everyone knows that competitive maps needs to be only squares brushes with flat colors and without lighting

[gusty cave]

mat_fullbright should be the competitive standard

[elfin berry]

Every comp map must be CP_Orange

[gusty cave]

iirc a old build of csgo had this really cool cp map

ahh yes cp_rooftop

remember playing on that map with bots so so long ago

was so much fun due to its layout

[versed pecan]

ty

[frigid dagger]

wayland gaming is dead

[minor thistle]

year of the linux desktop

[elfin berry]

im not online enough to tell the difference between the two

what's the deal with x11 and Wayland?

[pastel frigate]

wayland is newer

[versed pecan]

i am creating sdl 4.0 and codenaming it demoman

[gusty cave]

1.1gb update and the patch notes contain nothing

nice

[elfin berry]

update full of fard

[versed pecan]

they removed twerk

[rustic sierra]

NOOO why

[hot granite]

can u still jerk off

[versed pecan]

depends

[supple summit]

for real?

how do you know?

[rustic sierra]

he threw it back

[versed pecan]

i removed it

[supple summit]

I'm actually sad about this

[lilac glen]

WHY THO

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/831369737186967602.webp?size=48&name=cryaboutit~1&quality=lossless

[timber geyser]

i'm cancelling valve

never buying a game of theirs ever again

[versed pecan]

like they would release a game in any foreseeable future

right, fiend, the valve employee

[supple summit]

We were doing 10 to 0 and then the other team came back 10 to 10. Everyone was absolutely tilted to oblivion and I was able bring them back for 3 rounds by responding to a very rude question in buy-time by turning around and twerking

everyone busted out laughing and we closed 13-10

in conclusion: removing twerking effectively lowered the game's skill ceiling

[versed pecan]

i find it funny that they decided to add overtime as a solution to "endgame" being ruled out by one round

sad that you cant go beyond 15-15, that is

[supple summit]

they should have put a vote after the first overtime to see if the match should continue or be a tie

[versed pecan]

good one actually

but uh

[supple summit]

if it's unanimous on both teams, it continues

[versed pecan]

if its higher play lobby then a tie results in an elo loss

so

[mild locust]

*if its higher play

lobby then a tie results

in an elo loss*

- lowrule

[supple summit]

no, not in the new system

[versed pecan]

i think thats how it should be.

or uh

individual performance-based

if tied

[supple summit]

this actually surprised me: They went from a system based on a mix of individual performance and team performance to one where it's simply win or lose

like, you can AFK the entire match and you will win/lose the same amount of elo as if you carried

interested to see how this is gonna play out. So far most matches have been surprisingly balanced

[versed pecan]

they got some mechanisms present that detect inactive players and such behavior

[supple summit]

the weird thing is that from what I can see, Glicko-2 doesn't even take into account teammates, although it does take into account multiple enemies

so like: did they modify glicko-2 to make teammates a thing, or do teammate ratings actually dont influence your rating change for win/lose?

[versed pecan]

to prevent boosting ig

but you cant queue in a group where the elo difference is high (?)

[supple summit]

yea, that's the thing. You DO need to take teammate ratings into account to find a enemy team with a similar skill level. So I think the second option is more likely

[gusty cave]

Omg they finally fixed fractional crosshair outlines

[versed pecan]

anyway,

@quasi sphinx thoughts?

[quasi sphinx]

owned ct

[lilac glen]

how does that even happen

like if it fits on the model during its ref anim (a-pose) then like it should fit it everywhere else
how are the anims or IK or whatever not applying properly

[rustic sierra]

https://youtu.be/wdlbiaL13aI

[gusty cave]

Neveg is my favorite weapon for demonstrating a high level players urge to try and peek everything.
Its very fun to watch people one by one try to peak me as I lazer Long doors or A Ramp.

[timber geyser]

thats a constant in so many games

people are just like

so filled with bloodlust they peek

[gusty cave]

They be like "Those tracers lead me straight to the enemy head so If I just peak and one tap 🤔 🤔 🤔 🤔

Also keep in mind that CS is a mind game. Breaking your opponent mentally is often way more viable than outplaying them with raw aim skill.

[versed pecan]

that’s why you spam question marks in all chat

works in dota, too

[gusty cave]

:>

When the enemy od blink into base solo and me as a shadow shaman hex > Stun > Team jumps on him > wasted aegis > He respawns > Hex > wasted life.

?

[versed pecan]

people just start fuming when you tell em that you make (low income) a year

trolling 101

[solar gate]

Also keep in mind that CS is a physical game. Breaking your opponent's arms is often way more viable than outplaying them with raw aim skill.

[lilac glen]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRQR97_fPfc

[rustic sierra]

https://youtu.be/yyqfPD86a9U

@versed pecan

[versed pecan]

wow this is Competitive Office.

[lilac glen]

YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH'

[versed pecan]

alert: major ba

g

[lilac glen]

SILVER 1‼️ ‼️ ‼️ ‼️ ‼️

[versed pecan]

must get silver 1 on all maps

thats how you wi nthe game..

[lilac glen]

not happening.

we outta unranked tho 😤

[supple summit]

I was able to reproduce the jump problem by finding a slope that is only sometimes jumpable and sometimes not

so it's not just a clientside thing with cl_showpos being wrong

setpos 1590.968750 -1100.68 -351.970245;setang 0 0 0 this place on nuke is only jumpable sometimes. Run straight forwards until you bump the wall and then jump

my current theory is that since they want to subtick movement inputs, they need to calculate how much you moved for the remaining fraction of the tick you pressed jump on separately before letting the physics engine do the rest on a tick by tick basis.

I really don't know how they will ever be able to solve this, if that's the case

because it would be a question of the ticks landing at different points in the trajectory, even though the trajectory is the same. So since the game only works on discrete time intervals, you can't really make the "discrete apex" a consistent number

wait, I can test this by doing something really really boring

is there any command that prints your position every tick?

[supple summit]

can't even find a way to print the uninterpolated position of the player

cl_showpos and getpos both use the interpolated position

[knotty vapor]

i hate csgo fans

[hot granite]

they should cs go get some bitches

[frigid dagger]

theres no one that is analyzing the code of cs2 to understand what is going on instead of testing random things without knowing how works and making conclusions from that?

i cant say much about bcs i dont really understand deeply but if it is as bad as they claim... valve... idk

[minor thistle]

that would require cs players to use their brains for once

[hot granite]

i think its bad

but they all blame it on subtick and 64tick

because theyre brainless idiots who love talking about things they dont know anything about

[frigid dagger]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Yomqk0C6kE i saw this some time ago and, idk if is good or bad but seems to work so far for valve but now everything doesnt seems to have proper play testing

doesnt seems to make sense comparing cs2 to tf2 but is just release update with game broken and after this multiple small updates to try fixes something

[hot granite]

https://vxtwitter.com/CounterStrike/status/1711546259075674255

[frigid dagger]

oh damn

who is bob that cs players wants so much? is some kinda of agent?

[frigid dagger]

but wheres the people who knows how these things works? or just people who knows reverse engineering and wants to find out things?

[timber geyser]

they're basically all saying that its bullshit but no one listens to them

[frigid dagger]

yes but

saying that is bullshit for people that dont understand and believe that is a conspiracy just dont changes or helps things

show codes, show the game modified, something

creates documentations

is kinda extreme for these cs players but someone needs to speak bcs this is so bruh

could be also valve but

wheres shounic cs2 version?

[timber geyser]

too busy giving misinformation and bad solutions

[lilac glen]

https://www.vxtiktok.com/t/ZT8rHAg99/

[frigid dagger]

damn the subtick sucks, 128 ticks would be better!!!

[mild locust]

*damn the subtick sucks,

128

ticks would be better!!!*

- _jakez

[lilac glen]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1157404065895030919.webp?size=48&name=huhh&quality=lossless

[gusty cave]

🤔

[frigid dagger]

is just joke funny haha cs players

[gusty cave]

very funny

[frigid dagger]

thanks

[supple summit]

networking is complicated

every time I tried to explain how it works as a rebutle to someone saying some shit the response was basically "I don't care, it should just work"

[frigid dagger]

i know

[supple summit]

so that's why most people just say "bullshit" instead of trying to explain. Too much effort for too little reward

"simple lie vs complicated truth" type situation

[frigid dagger]

yeah

but i mean mostly like someone big and influent

kliksphilip?

idk much in the cs space that is talk about tech stuff

or someone that is not into the game but understands, i cant think of anyone but live overflow is in my mind

[ocean turret]

https://help.steampowered.com/en/faqs/view/73EF-08A3-0935-6369

LOLOLOLOL

hahahaha

[ocean turret]

what can you do ¯_(ツ)_/¯

some people are just stupid

[supple summit]

he isn't gonna touch that hornest nest, he already said so

[frigid dagger]

fair enough

[supple summit]

I just started linking to https://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Source_Multiplayer_Networking everywhere I can

but that doesn't help as much when it comes to CS2 due to subtick

[frigid dagger]

im just waiting to get more stable and better vulkan backend to play but maybe theres isnt much to do with my current pc

also i need to buy a earphone xd

[supple summit]

no, it's just a question of no really wanting to understand the game and just wanting to either play the game or express frustration when they are not enjoying it

[frigid dagger]

tbh you cant expect to everyone understand, would be good if some pro players understand but even then idk, ig is just easier throwing blame on words you dont understand

[hot granite]

to those who didnt open:

As technology advances, we have made the difficult decision to discontinue support for older hardware, including DirectX 9 and 32-bit operating systems. Similarly, we will no longer support macOS. Combined, these represented less than one percent of active CS:GO players.
Moving forward, Counter-Strike 2 will exclusively support 64-bit Windows and Linux.

seems no mac support was intentional

[gusty cave]

🤔

"Support"

Message shows up when booting up the csgo_legacy branch

[gusty cave]

They are the servers

[gusty cave]

@versed pecan top fragging in mg tier game

probably mg tier

[knotty vapor]

lmao no mac support

[ocean turret]

can you use like

proton/wine on a mac?

[knotty vapor]

used to

but they dropped steam play on it years ago

cause apple lmao

[glacial sky]

Prime refunds for Mac players until December 1

[rustic sierra]

very localized

[hot granite]

lmao why didnt thy just ctrl f cs:go and replace it with cs2 or counter strike 2

[rustic sierra]

I just realized

what are they gonna do for these economy items

lol

also why is IDF missing now

Legacy Version of CS:GO is now an option

for windows and mac

and only if you have 32 bit Windows

I think it prompts you, like as a launch option

if you have mac or 32 bit windows

I think Linux is forced to using CS2

because there is no support for 32 bit linux i think in csgo

[frigid dagger]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YvCcmmt00sk

well, works replacing the launch to csgo.sh but kinda bruh that they forget to add the option

i just add on the launch options ./csgo.sh %command%

[lilac glen]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aD9I3YD3Wys

most interesting thing said here is how bullets in csgo shoot the frame after they're inputted vs cs2 which shoots the previous frame

but its just generally interesting

(actual data btw)

[hot granite]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QgxW-MQ2MP0

[lilac glen]

isnt that how it always was in csgo

like the delayed visual

one thing im curious about is why the hitbox arms just rotate

doesnt change anything but it sfunniy

@supple summit

we made it guys.

[hot granite]

i got really fucking confused i thought that was the netflix logo

[lilac glen]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1150596391962411089.webp?size=48&name=skFUNNYBUSINESS&quality=lossless

lmao

[wicked rock]

ah yes Netflix

[lilac glen]

this skin actually looks kinda nice even though its 0.74 worn

its like moss growing off of it

[rustic sierra]

probably bad quaternion logic

[wicked rock]

if skins follow real world logic be like

[supple summit]

@quasi sphinx nice video

[supple summit]

if anyone knows, please let me know

[supple summit]

https://www.reddit.com/r/GlobalOffensive/comments/174s58s/michael_jackson_peek/

[quasi sphinx]

your own player doesn't get interpolated

[supple summit]

how do I get that though?

I want to graph the tick by tick position from jumps with the normal jump input and with the "un-subticked" jump input to test my theory

but cl_showpos is smooth as butter even at host_timescale 0.001, same for getpos

[quasi sphinx]

oh you mean you want the serverside position?

maybe you can use vscript

[supple summit]

wait, how is it smooth if it's not interpolated

I guess it's also predicted, but turning it off with cl_predict 0 doesn't make it not smooth

[quasi sphinx]

yeah because of prediction

but cl_predict 0 doesn't work, don't think it ever did

you can probably disable weapon prediction and that's it

[supple summit]

hm

[supple summit]

ugh. I didn't wanna have to learn that just to get a position each tick 😭

[supple summit]

well, if that doesn't work, maybe I can just spectate a bot and somehow disable/break interpolation in the spectator view

then I just bot_mimic and jump

[versed pecan]

mastercoms, the videogame economist

[quasi sphinx]

@supple summit look at this comment lol https://old.reddit.com/r/GlobalOffensive/comments/172nm6q/cs2_hitboxes_while_moving_and_jumping/k3y6s7f/

what the fuck is this guy saying lol

[knotty vapor]

@quasi sphinx what was the bug that you show was fixed in the second part of your video

the extreme pitch one

[timber geyser]

it was shit like this ^

[versed pecan]

those were fixed in the recent update according to patch notes

[supple summit]

this guy is unhinged

What was the deleted post?

[quasi sphinx]

i think it's one of the 5 trillion tweets from csgo pros complaining about the moving hitbox thing and it looks like op deleted it when they found out it wasnt an issue

i shouldve tested if twerking still works before i uninstalled cs2

[supple summit]

lets compile all of the non-issues that people post and make a crowbcat style video

actually, make it non-issues, things that are the same, and general unhinged rants

[supple summit]

true. I quickly tried in a match and according to my friends it still works

[versed pecan]

this way you become a successful YouTuber and we later reformat you to be a shounic-like creator.

or “marblr”

he’s pretty good too

[quasi sphinx]

crowbcat should be killed and eaten

[supple summit]

no thanks, being successful on the internet does terrible things to you, it seems

[versed pecan]

oh ok then ill be the one to upload it

[supple summit]

lets be the reverse crowbcat, that calls out communities for actually good reasons instead of calling out companies for bullshit reasons

[versed pecan]

i want to get involved in controversies

[supple summit]

bonus points for dubbing text posts with the tiktok tts voice for the extra sass

[quasi sphinx]

if i had a mic and an environment where i can actually use it i've thought of making like very short and concise explanation vids for tf2 networking stuff like peeker's advantage, dying after taking cover, how it's silly to assume that kill confirmation is when your shot lands, etc

[supple summit]

what was the biggest controversy you have been involved on?

[versed pecan]

i cheated in a video game

[quasi sphinx]

because these seem very easy to explain with a visualisation and accompanying explanation but like it seems nobody has actually done that

everyone just writes fanfiction for why you get shot around corners

[mild locust]

*everyone just writes

fanfiction for why you get

shot around corners*

- crawl space

[quasi sphinx]

even though it's so easy to understand

[versed pecan]

or just have two point of views

if lazy.

[quasi sphinx]

there's a really good explanation vid for peeker's advantage but ppl still seem to disregard it

[supple summit]

I tried learning 3blue1brown's visualisation library so I could do pretty timeline videos explaining networking and latency concepts but gave up. I guess I was just not determined enough

[supple summit]

link it

[quasi sphinx]

goddamnit i cant find it i thought i shared it here

[versed pecan]

kenaj let’s make a vid where we explain peekers advantage/disadvantage.

[quasi sphinx]

if i googled "csgo peeker's advantage" i'll just get 5000000 shitty videos

[quasi sphinx]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3JaCcsmjYM8

clickbait title but it's actually the only good video about it

idk how well it can be understood by most ppl though but i thought it works well

the main thing ppl should understand for peeker's advantage really is that it's completely based on the victim's latency

ppl like to focus on the peeker being able to see the victim first in real world time, but that's completely cancelled out by the fact that their shot will take time to reach the server

like they think it's one-way somehow

like i said, ppl love writing netcode fanfic for some reason

u dont even need to be an expert so you aren't writing netcode fanfic, you just need to understand that the laws of physics apply to videogame networking

you literally just need to accept the reality that data has travel time and you'll instantly be more knowledgeable about networking than csgo players

[timber geyser]

idk how it is so hard for people to understand that as soon as data hits the server, the ping of the player that sent that data is irrelevant

[quasi sphinx]

That's where theoretical loses to reality.

[timber geyser]

also its really funny how people can be so confident of things while also not taking the time to see all of the squiggly red lines on their screen where they misspelled the main thing they're talking about

[quasi sphinx]

i really don't know how people are able to write paragraph upon paragraph of confident nonsense

[timber geyser]

"csgo doesn't have a lan mode" explain how I can use a server on a computer that is connected to my computer via an ethernet cable

checkmate athiests

i think really what it is, is just that people HATE being wrong more than anything

they want to believe they're right so much that they will confidently spew what they think just because someone challenged their viewpoint

[versed pecan]

that’s why these debates will exist forever

[timber geyser]

yeah...

[quasi sphinx]

idk how ppl can't just think for more than 2 seconds before spewing these

take your argument to the extreme,

like if a player has 5 seconds of latency, how aren't they able to just kill everyone because everyone else has 5 seconds of reaction time

literally just think for more than 2 seconds lol

[supple summit]

what a great video?

[supple summit]

I think the main thing that is missing for someone who is reasonably versed in the basics is the detail that lag compensation doesn't "fix" time, only position

[supple summit]

I meant that to be an exclamation point

[timber geyser]

i just want to go back to this last comment because its so mindnumbingly stupid because in their example they just completely forget that the peeker's ping affects when their shot hits the server too

[supple summit]

if you know that and you work out the interaction in your head, you come to the right conclusions. But if you think lag compensation reverses time, then of doesn't work out correctly

[supple summit]

this guy needs to do an update for cs2 lol

[ocean turret]

hi counterstroke

[supple summit]

my current understanding is that it would be the same, except that if the packets from both of them arrive and get processed for the same tick on the server, then the one whose +attack has the lower subtick timestamp wins

is that correct?

[versed pecan]

yeah

you’d have to lower the tick rate so it’s more understandable.

Moving beyond tick rate:

[ocean turret]

manifesting that rn

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/925784073975250965.webp?size=48&name=Pray&quality=lossless

[quasi sphinx]

no it's based on entity order

in reverse

[versed pecan]

so having a slower drive would be beneficial

[quasi sphinx]

new meta

[quasi sphinx]

but yeah it doesn't get ordered by the timestamp or whatever

the timestamp is just used to tell where to interpolate between the 2 ticks

i guess the most you can abuse it is backtracking by up to like 15 ms behind lol

[versed pecan]

red camo

[quasi sphinx]

checked out his more recent uploads

[versed pecan]

gamer

[versed pecan]

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!IMPORTANT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
According to my sources,
they brought back twerk.

[quasi sphinx]

https://www.reddit.com/r/GlobalOffensive/comments/1758gol/i_made_a_michael_jackson_cfg_so_you_can_michael/

it seems like this is caused by moving with an analog stick or keyboard lmao

didnt know that that many ppl played csgo with an analog keyboard wtf

first person https://i.gyazo.com/36603a1d4efdc5abf5d2780a92b4e124.mp4

looks so funny

[hot granite]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/383927930641842186/1161598197886623804/dBvz5CTf.mp4?ex=6538e19f&is=65266c9f&hm=927fb43501652153433e5a968d8c706765df9d658cf1231e12714262bf590901&

its so funny

[versed pecan]

michael jakson ...

[quasi sphinx]

why do ppl play csgo with analog keyboards anyway that sounds fucked up

it means you don't move at max accel immediately

[versed pecan]

no need to press shift

[versed pecan]

you never move at max accel immediately

[quasi sphinx]

you do

you dont move at max velocity immediately thats what accel is for owned with facts and semantics

[versed pecan]

when is that

[quasi sphinx]

also nvm i remembered that like

the silent move speed is faster than the actual walk speed when using shift

which seems a little silly

[solar gate]

Assuming equal input latency, that just means you start moving slightly faster (since most keyboards' actuation points are at or near bottoming out)

most of the time its functionally the same, but any situation where you would have to tap a direction to go slightly that way or slowly that speed (or in cs, pressing shift) you can just use analog movement more comfortably and quickly

[versed pecan]

jarkins point about actuation points is great

theres very little pro players using small actuation points for whatever reason

this majors winner' zywoo uses one of those

barrel camo

(they wont see this one coming)

[versed pecan]

god i love this shit so much thank you wget

[gusty cave]

legit wallhack exploit

splitscreen_mode 2

and then use fsr on any mode to stretch screen

[gusty cave]

@versed pecan

[quasi sphinx]

they should add an ability that highlights enemies so that wallhacks are no longer useful

[supple summit]

they already did that

its a grenade

[lilac glen]

frame blending 🤮

what is this clip even of

[hot granite]

look at the guy walking

in front of him

his legs

[lilac glen]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1150661992626004090.gif?size=48&name=hitthat&quality=lossless

[rustic sierra]

https://fxtwitter.com/counterstrike/status/1712166452244205881

[hot granite]

ohne is like cs gorgc except if he was never funny

[supple summit]

I tested it and its true, its reverse entity order

I was finding it hard to believe that they didn't use the new system to solve this exact problem

now I wonder if this is even something that happens often.

[timber geyser]

well

[elfin berry]

cis

[timber geyser]

cisgender 2

[glacial sky]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/887419552110108722/1160884917811544084/pussy_2.mp4?ex=65364954&is=6523d454&hm=1816fa2894521ee3e9411467cd495284d586c926d87b760d8521e6d4e02dc50b&

[lilac glen]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yamj7benEpw

new cs2 tech dropped

[lilac glen]

https://www.reddit.com/r/GlobalOffensive/comments/1758gol/comment/k4e10zn/?context=3

https://vxtwitter.com/hobshytv/status/1712117974906335515

[timber geyser]

this is one of my fav vids ever

[knotty vapor]

how do i see enemies in cs2 pov demos

since theres no gotv demos

for now

r_drawothermodels is gone

and i cant find any other walls command

mat_wireframe does nothing

[wicked rock]

https://vxtwitter.com/FNATICCS2/status/1712098164843348203?t=9RtPHH87VLQb-Zan7cnwaA&s=19

[ocean turret]

I love this edit

[wicked rock]

bro I spit my drink lmfao oh god

[tender heart]

@wicked rock has leveled up! (57 ➜ 58)

@wicked rock has earned the Rank 5 role!

[quasi sphinx]

@supple summit did you do the jump test yet

[supple summit]

no, I didn't find a way to capture the position

besides vscript, possibly

but I got lazy

[versed pecan]

@supple summit

[supple summit]

what is it

[versed pecan]

idk man.. idk..

you seen this?

i mean you probably have..

[supple summit]

yea

[versed pecan]

hamborg

[urban urchin]

talon stop hacking bro

[tender heart]

@urban urchin has earned the wicked role!

[urban urchin]

thanks tatsu

[versed pecan]

why bro

[pastel frigate]

i will ban you from the offical mastercomfig cs2 server if you don't

[wicked rock]

lol

[timber geyser]

NOOOOOOO

i mean to be fair it needed to be fixed

but it will be dearly missed simply for how funny it was

[wicked rock]

lmfao

[elfin berry]

you've been hit by-

[quasi sphinx]

i think i figured out why so many people are complaining about shit that's just caused by high latency

[solar gate]

they should add servers to Anadyr, Russia

[ocean turret]

Do a lot of european CS:GO players hate on the russian ones?

[supple summit]

I guess its like Brazil with the rest of Latin America: You literally cant communicate properly, so you cant play properly with each other. Every map position has a completely different name in the other language

there is also lots of prejudice, but that usually comes out after being frustrated that the teammate didn't understanding your call

[rustic sierra]

https://vxtwitter.com/k0nfig/status/1712549947349020796

[timber geyser]

i have to wonder how the hell their animation system is set up that we keep getting all these weird but funny animations, mostly revolving around the hips

first it was twerking, then MJ, and now this lol

[versed pecan]

legs

[solar gate]

first they came for the twerk, and I did not speak out
then they came for the MJ, and I did not speak out
then they came for the bootyshake, and I did not speak out
and then they came for me

[tender heart]

@solar gate has leveled up! (70 ➜ 71)

[versed pecan]

they shouldnt have added first person legs… worst mistake…

[quasi sphinx]

legs in source games are super desynced

probably tried to fix that

[rustic sierra]

IK tied to game movement

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/763053037332725790/1161920891106644008/1c5bf2231f0cf423bbc88e3cd7633810.mp4?ex=653a0e27&is=65279927&hm=337bf2fde1dc0cbdbe25541f7be1d23dba77b292d9e565bc79610c5de455fe6f&

[ocean turret]

I'm sure russia invading Ukraine doesn't affects European attitudes towards russians

[versed pecan]

nope

just a certain group of european countries.

surely europeans won’t be prejudiced towards russians (that are practically flooding eu cs’ servers)

[ocean turret]

From the few people I talked to Estonia, they always had to most out-of-pocket things to say about Russian people

[versed pecan]

it’s ok estonia latvia n lithuania will be the first countries to be enclaved.

[ocean turret]

🐱

erm

Actually

Russia will loose its georgia colony

than Iran will conquer everything back to the tartastan area

[versed pecan]

huh?

[versed pecan]

what’s that? i don’t know any areas with that name

ur saying there’s russia in america?

like, the state of georgia?

[ocean turret]

average Russian education

[elfin berry]

the Iranians need to keep one eye open for the Golden Horde right behind them

Ghengis Khan Sweep

[versed pecan]

i don’t think education has to do anything with anything

[glacial sky]

what would genghis khan think about cs2

[ocean turret]

Funny enough

the mongolian rulers and people that came eventually became persianized over time

Iran stays winning

[glacial sky]

all societies evolve into iran sooner or later

like crabs

[versed pecan]

he will rush b with his mates

[ocean turret]

so true

[lilac glen]

https://www.vxtiktok.com/t/ZT8rKwV8o/

[versed pecan]

w

[hot granite]

the baltics are so insanely russophobic

its beyond insane

[versed pecan]

hello rayne are you phobic

[hot granite]

why would i be

[versed pecan]

do i invoke any feelings deep inside you

i dont know.

[hot granite]

not in particular

thats normal, not a lot of people do

[quasi sphinx]

change your pfp to a certain blonde-haired character

[versed pecan]

my name is... carl

[hot granite]

i must have stepped on something

[lilac glen]

https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxeVXjuKJSBmkIECpuzn3p7J_oHtaNTD8F

funa animations

[ocean turret]

https://fxtwitter.com/CounterStrike/status/1712875606776729832

looks like an AMD driver thing caused people to actually get vac banned

Friday the 13th moment

[lilac glen]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/980317070208163840.webp?size=48&name=socialcredit&quality=lossless

another day thanking god for not making me an amd user

[ocean turret]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1029676566705348679.webp?size=48&name=brahwtfbrah&quality=lossless

you will be one soon

[knotty vapor]

LMFAO

@versed pecan

[elfin berry]

[versed pecan]

i think someone predicted that already but
[Console] SV: Convar 'splitscreen_mode' is cheat protected, change ignored.

[gusty cave]

yeah it happened last update

oh not the last update

the update before that

The one which claimed to fix smoth criminal

[versed pecan]

sorry i thought i responded. original message: "another proprietary driver l (?)"

[supple summit]

https://fxtwitter.com/ZPostFacto/status/1714015120240894378

[glacial sky]

buy a better computer with a small loan from millionaire parents

Shrimple as that

[elfin berry]

https://tenor.com/view/shrimp-its-as-shrimple-as-that-not-so-shrimple-elden-ring-elden-ring-meme-gif-26027466

[solar gate]

https://tenor.com/view/youve-got-to-be-squidding-me-its-as-shrimple-as-that-shrimple-squid-gif-26786461

[knotty vapor]

i dont get it

[solar gate]

https://tenor.com/view/its-as-shrimple-as-that-shrimple-clam-grass-jump-gif-25956447

[knotty vapor]

can someone explain this

[supple summit]

any1 cs2?

https://discord.com/channels/389089828249010188/958581537408946256

[quasi sphinx]

@supple summit vscript results

[supple summit]

@quasi sphinx vscript results

[elfin berry]

@supple summit @quasi sphinx vscript results

[gusty cave]

🤔

[versed pecan]

calibrated to 1,515, queueing with a friend with 4,000~ elo
if we lose:
i lose nothing, he loses 500pts

[versed pecan]

ok man see you in three hours

[versed pecan]

ui not borken

something is telling me that playing on a controller could result in vacnet being tripped

[quasi sphinx]

@supple summit i think they disabled the subtick bypass

you were too late

[versed pecan]

wget

it is you who is TOO late.

[gusty cave]

and another one has appeared

[quasi sphinx]

damn i wonder what that new bypass is

[gusty cave]

put the aliases as a config file and execute via binds

[quasi sphinx]

thanks for letting me know

[gusty cave]

dw it will be patched in no time

[supple summit]

you can still do it by doing "exec"

and even when they fix it completely, it will never be too late, as I can prove or disprove my theory just by testing it with sub-tick

no need to test without

[supple summit]

https://fxtwitter.com/ZPostFacto/status/1714665275755581792

https://fxtwitter.com/ZPostFacto/status/1714421647476961673

[glacial sky]

valve tournaments should instate a mandatory 120 fps cap

[quasi sphinx]

what does this mean

[versed pecan]

24

for the cinematic effect

last major was the first tournament to use 240hz monitors

[versed pecan]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/977892322463326208/1164247912105132137/VID_20231018_200521_213.mp4

[supple summit]

people shouldn't be allowed to spectate when they die

[supple summit]

from what I gather, Mr. Dunn was saying that a loss in performance from "extremely high fps" to "high fps" was low priority considering the other issues he is working on, and that he feels unmotivated to work on them because of the way people convey it saying that 120FPS is unplayable. At the end he also insinuates that unless you have the fps counter turned on, you wouldn't notice a difference between 170 and 500.

he then takes back the last tweet and shares more context about why he was feeling frustrated

[solar gate]

counterpoint: optimizing is some of the most rewarding parts of gamedev

[glacial sky]

then why isn't tf2 optimized

[solar gate]

"render more frames" I cant i EATED them

[glacial sky]

consumed

[elfin berry]

https://tenor.com/view/silly-gif-3040355674486957825

[knotty vapor]

what?

[quasi sphinx]

spectator moment

https://www.reddit.com/r/GlobalOffensive/comments/17av41k/subtick_making_even_your_good_moments_feel_bad/

csgo players literally can't comprehend the fact that ping exists lol

these players are beyond moronic

oh it's just ping, it's just spectator view, well how about this clip, heh :

[mild locust]

*oh it's just ping, it's

just spectator view, well how

about this clip, heh :*

- crawl space

[quasi sphinx]

and it's just a clip where the crosshair obviously swipes across the head

[wicked rock]

basically spect view is busted atm?

[quasi sphinx]

it has always been weird

even in csgo

these people are just extremely nitpicky because they're troglodytes and want to find any excuse for their shit aim

[wicked rock]

ngl my aim is always been a shit and i don't blame the game

[mild locust]

*ngl my aim

is always been a shit and

i don't blame the game*

- Brodspy

[quasi sphinx]

so like

people are saying that the hitboxes are ahead of the playermodel

and ALSO the hitboxes are behind the playermodel

[quasi sphinx]

also ppl say that the spec delay they see is far more than the ~15 ms interp but like

this is what 15 ms interp is

[wicked rock]

lol

[quasi sphinx]

and add ping to that for online play

50 ping is like 4 times that

[wicked rock]

i wonder how it is going for metamod/sourcemod for cs2

[quasi sphinx]

valve hates modding now i guess

[wicked rock]

i mean i've seen some progress over the github

[minor thistle]

is there a dedicated server app yet?

or is it just going to be through the client app now

[wicked rock]

it is throught the client app

all source 2 tools are in a monolith enviroment

[quasi sphinx]

no valve will take it down eventually and put you in jail forever

[wicked rock]

noooooooooooo-

[minor thistle]

good

[wicked rock]

bad

[minor thistle]

modding is evil and you will go to hell for it

[rustic sierra]

well the other thing is all the fucking visuals are desynced from subtick

which desync it even more than just ping

[quasi sphinx]

i think that adds to it but i really doubt it's such a huge deal when csgo had the same delay and ppl didn't really complain about it

like people only found out about the delay anyway by running the game at like 1% timescale

[supple summit]

yea, people are even complaining about tracers not going where the bullets go, BUT THIS IS LITERALLY IN EVERY SOURCE GAME

[quasi sphinx]

the tracers are predicted right

[supple summit]

maybe the tracer particles are slower and brighter so they are more noticeable?

[supple summit]

yes

[quasi sphinx]

idk if the tracers are slower but they are definitely much more prominent than in csgo

tracers are kinda strange in source anyway because it's like

[supple summit]

sorry, I meant to say "people are even complaining"

[quasi sphinx]

a projectile representation of an instant hitscan attack

[supple summit]

yea, but they are like that in every game with hitscan bullets

if they are fast enough, its no issue

but if they are slow, it really messes with my brain

[solar gate]

they should make bullets be a projectile with a hitscan visual

[mild locust]

*they should make bullets

be a projectile with a

hitscan visual*

- JarateKing

[supple summit]

for example: the scout pistol reskin that is a laser blaster

I simply cannot use it

[minor thistle]

did you delete the haiku? 😭

[quasi sphinx]

kinda wish tracers were like

[supple summit]

yea, fuck haiku in the middle of my comment
if I already finished, it would be ok

[quasi sphinx]

instantly a bright line and then it just shrinks towards where it hits

don't tracers in cs only come out like every 4 shots

[timber geyser]

isn't shot accuracy intentionally desynced between client and server

[quasi sphinx]

yes

[timber geyser]

so thats why tracers don't line up

[minor thistle]

yeah

[quasi sphinx]

yes

that's why i asked if it's p[redicted

[quasi sphinx]

it's such a weird choice imo

[minor thistle]

crit prediction in tf2

[minor thistle]

it's to stop cheating iirc

[quasi sphinx]

ik but it's weird

[minor thistle]

why?

[quasi sphinx]

it makes effects and decals and shit look weird

[supple summit]

but how would they prevent cheats that compensate for weapon inacuracy while keeping them synced and also predicted?

[quasi sphinx]

nospread seems really easy to detect with an ac anyway

[mild locust]

*nospread seems really

easy to detect with an

ac anyway*

- crawl space

[quasi sphinx]

because a normal user would use the middle of the spread to aim their shots

[timber geyser]

simply move the decals after it hits and gaslight the user into thinking it was always in the right spot

[supple summit]

I mean, it's a terrible situation. Countless hours of rage induced by seeing a decal literally behind someone's head without getting a hit. But I can't think of a better solution

[supple summit]

better yet: simply don't draw decals if they would land behind an enemy, clientside

[quasi sphinx]

before i implemented clientside hitreg in gmod i did that

[supple summit]

holy shit, you are evil

[quasi sphinx]

forgot how exactly i stopped clientside decals from appearing

but like i made it so the predicted smoke trails from guns get server-corrected

it didn't seem noticeable at all

[timber geyser]

imo so much of source network jank is because of poor handling of prediction because they want instant feedback

like fake crits in tf2 would not be an issue if instead of having a crit sound and a regular sound they had like an intro that then turned into a crit sound

giving the server time to verify if it was in fact a crit, sending that back to the client, and then having it play the correct sound

[supple summit]

there is no way

[quasi sphinx]

idk why the crit sound needs to play immediately anyway

[timber geyser]

it doesn't

like I said its just a bad idea because they wanted instant feedback

which i guess if all of your players in 2007 have ~100 ping sure

[supple summit]

but there are instantaneous actions that absolutely need prediction, which things do you think are currently predicted and could use not being predicted?

[timber geyser]

but nowadays ping is not terrible in most cases

[supple summit]

yea, I agree. No reason for crit sound being predicted

[timber geyser]

thats the only one i can think of off the top of my head

[supple summit]

I agree. definitely easy to detect due to most situations where you would use no-spread being with a high firerate weapon

but then you could just use semi-automatics and be much less blatant until statistics catch up to you

[quasi sphinx]

#tech🤖 message

yeah i was gonna mention why not use statistics

if you use nospread you're gonna end up getting stupidly high odds

like even if you increased your hit chance from like 50% to 60%

[supple summit]

I think they talked about this approach in that GDC talk about VAC-Net

it's not hard to have extremely unlikely behavior by cheating without even noticing, I agree.

[rustic sierra]

the problem is inconsistency

before, everything ran on the next tick

now, some things run in the subtick, some run on the next tick, etc

the tracers, decals, etc. they sample and interpolate between ticks now

and it looks awful

but they only appear during the next tick

same with animation

[supple summit]

I slowed the game down with host_timescale and indeed it seems like they only appear in the next tick. However, this is also the case for legacy_csgo

but idk what you mean by "sample and interpolate between ticks"

and the sound seems to be even more delayed in csgo_legacy

[supple summit]

every third shot

[quasi sphinx]

huh did they lower the default delay in cs2?

[quasi sphinx]

she means that it uses the mouse and camera position from the moment when u click instead of the mouse and camera at the moment of the next tick

i dont really get how a visual delay is worse than input delay though

[quasi sphinx]

i think it should be instant but also it's clearly strictly better than input delay

the fact that ppl didn't complain about or even notice the same delay in csgo just makes me doubt that it's as much of a big deal as ppl make it out to be

[supple summit]

I see, but isn't this strictly better?

like, yes, the thing is being drawn "late" (as late as in csgo, so not really late), but at least it's being drawn at the right position

[quasi sphinx]

yes, to me at least

can't really understand how it can't be

[supple summit]

but yea, tracers are thiner, faster and less numerous in csgo_legacy

cs2 vs csgo tracer at first frame

I feared that slowing the game down would mess with how they look, so this was captured at 60fps at full speed

cs2 is longer and goes much furter before disappearing from view

[quasi sphinx]

isnt the csgo tracer literally the same as the css tracer

[supple summit]

csgo disappears after ~3 frames, while cs2 lingers for at least 6 frames and goes much much further

[elfin berry]

so kitty

[rustic sierra]

for example the AK spray pattern on decals

it isn't consistent on the decals because they interpolate on the subtick so the spray interpolates between the fixed spread locations per tick

but this is iirc played back on the next tick

but samples from that time before

so basically it's delayed still, but is sampled at the wrong time (earlier then when it's sent back)

this is worse IMO

to make matters worse, it seems like lots of different systems conflict in terms of how they sample time and how they handle subtick

game movement

entity positions

animation

particle effects

decals

tracers

sound

recoil/spray

they all seem to conflict with one another

[timber geyser]

full release btw

not a beta

[versed pecan]

read the thread name pls

[timber geyser]

oh, my mistake

[rustic sierra]

so basically a bunch of systems sample from different times, playback at different times, predict inconsistently

[versed pecan]

oh

[rustic sierra]

it's simply not just ping and server tick delay

[versed pecan]

ok

problem?

[rustic sierra]

im sure even the spectator system is not handling subtick correctly

at most, this could be a 1 to 2 tick difference, maybe even more depending on the command queue buffer size

so that's at most, a 15.6 to 31.2ms difference

[versed pecan]

no its just everyone has backtrack ... impossible to show for everyone correctly ..

[rustic sierra]

which can double someones ping

[rustic sierra]

yes but subtick extends it even further

because it extends more than just network delay and also is tick delay between a command and it getting processed (beyond just the stream)

[quasi sphinx]

how would it handle subtick correctly or incorrectly? shouldn't it just be displaying what the server sees the player is seeing

and wouldn't the extra backtrack time be 1 tick at most

since subtick is interping between 2 ticks, not like 2-3 afaik

[quasi sphinx]

does subtick do anything with automatic fire? i thought the subtick timestamp is sent only for the initial attack command

like does it try to "correct" the fire rate, since attack intervals aren't aligned with the tickrate

[rustic sierra]

probably something like that

i didnt really look into what exactly happens per system in cs, just watched some videos

[timber geyser]

CS2 is major ready
https://vxtwitter.com/csunfortunate/status/1715977948451504467
https://vxtwitter.com/cs2newsupdate/status/1716036191210938483?s=20

[lilac glen]

This is 10x more entertaining than all majors combined

[hot granite]

adding context:
this is a showmatch with no rules

[timber geyser]

context sucks these should be bugs

[ocean turret]

hey guys

since I didn;t have my desktop working for 2 months

I have CS:GO still installed on my system

😳 what should I do with it

[hot granite]

nothing

you can still download csgo

on steam

[ocean turret]

oh word

😳 I have an even older version of that

My desktop went down in june

[minor thistle]

have you heard of steam database

[ocean turret]

😭 no

[hot granite]

if you have really old versions of dota 2, now that id be interested in

[ocean turret]

actually let me check

[hot granite]

like actually seriously old

[ocean turret]

yeah I have dota 2 installed

[minor thistle]

did they delete them?

[hot granite]

no

idk

[minor thistle]

I know they still have old s2 builds with symbols from 2016

[hot granite]

well

its less that theyre not findable

its more that theyre just

unplayable

u just cant play on these

at all

[ocean turret]

oh no

I don't have that lmao

[hot granite]

even privately

[minor thistle]

ah yeah that makes sense

[hot granite]

something about no server.dll or whatever

[minor thistle]

oh?

now that's interesting

s1 or s2

[hot granite]

its s1

[minor thistle]

maybe your copy is corrupt?

[hot granite]

no

[minor thistle]

how did you get it?

[hot granite]

it straight up had no server dll you couldnt host your own server

i downloaded it from some dude on reddit a long time ago

[minor thistle]

ohhh i see

fun

titanfall 1

[hot granite]

the only way u could play back then was just matchmaking from valve

also i think the oldest build u can get from steamdb is from 2015 it seems

this is like

2012 shit i think

[minor thistle]

can you even download pre-steampipe stuff anymore?

[timber geyser]

i don't think so

i think depotdownloader only goes back to steampipe

[minor thistle]

that would make sense

no reason for valve to keep it around

[hot granite]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=az_zrDANRZc but yea 2011 builds are pretty much unplayable

game looks scuffed as fuck

[minor thistle]

i'm surprised they didn't ship server though

[hot granite]

they didnt until like way later iirc

after the game went out of beta

which was in 2013 or so

theres a boomer community that plays pre-source 2 dota 2 all the time

they have their own matchmaking system and shit

the community is terrible though very cynical people that hate everything

[minor thistle]

lol

[hot granite]

https://streamable.com/483vh1 its still playable today and honestly id like to spend more time in it

the community playing it is very small though

so u will see a lot of familiar faces

people can be either so toxic or whatever

the old game has a charm to it but its so funny to see people claim its better in every single way

when i used to be in their discord all they would talk about is just shittalking recent events in the modern game lol

yeah

its like if people playing pre-meet your match existed or pre-jungle inferno

people that play the version before engineer could move buildings

or pyro could airblast

[ocean turret]

@quasi sphinxj

@supple summit

I know y'all two are like

or at least were

Super deep into "hit box errors" with CS2

has there been any news on them or what

[quasi sphinx]

kenajcrap is the expert

[solar gate]

they removed hitboxes from cs2

[ocean turret]

okay 🫡

[solar gate]

you can no longer shoot people, you can only hug them now

[ocean turret]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1029676566705348679.webp?size=48&name=brahwtfbrah&quality=lossless

hugbox instead of hitbox

[solar gate]

https://tenor.com/view/astralis-magisk-arms-open-gif-11911001

average cs player asking for hugs

[versed pecan]

https://tenor.com/view/wing-shlagussy-shlagussy-gaming-the-lazy-lounge-tll-gif-27123782

[supple summit]

you are such an asshole hahahahah

[supple summit]

the big thing was fixed a while ago. That's it

I see people complaining a lot about this now: https://www.reddit.com/r/GlobalOffensive/comments/17an241/cs2_subtick_is_hilarious_what_you_see_is_what_you/

[quasi sphinx]

didnt even have to click on this link to immediately see what's wrong lol

it's spec

also every non-spec view is like

either they're swiping their mouse really fast or the enemy is moving fast

[hot granite]

subtick is hilarious

[quasi sphinx]

and because of the fact that PING FUCKING EXISTS, that footage is useless

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AhQ4QE-01S4

like to get actual useful footage, you would need to know the exact frame you clicked your mouse like this

it's so dumb

like if i click and then swipe my mouse really fast up into the air

[mild locust]

*like if i click and

then swipe my mouse really fast

up into the air*

- crawl space

[quasi sphinx]

would this mean that the hitboxes are so fucked that i somehow hit someone while aiming upwards

[supple summit]

or they are un-peeking and die after the wall

[quasi sphinx]

it's all so dumb

it's just problems that have always existed in csgo

that they have ALWAYS complained about

but now they're pretending csgo never had any of these issues for some reason

yeah man csgo had some sort of secret magic technology that deleted the existence of ping and valve just removed it from cs2

[gusty cave]

average networking stuff

things like that used to happen in csgo pretty often for me due to often lossy and bad internet

plus im very very sure that is over exaggerated due to spectator camera + lag compensation

but yeah well the community finds the smallest rare occurance of a issue and simply bandwagon towards it and starts pouring hate into it

and half of the times they are non issues

And besides that there is this : https://youtu.be/O52VEqsUB3s

how small brained can he (s1mple) be man

besides that there are other incidents of valve devs talking to the community and receving a decent amount of backlash

[timber geyser]

man i wonder why valve doesn't like talking to their community

[mild locust]

*man i wonder why

valve doesn't like talking to

their community*

- treacherousfiend

[timber geyser]

i simply cannot imagine

[gusty cave]

Yeah considering pro players like s1mple is responding in such rash ways

I mean like I get it you hate the state that the game is in right now

[mild locust]

*I mean like I get

it you hate the state that the

game is in right now*

- lonely potat

[gusty cave]

The devs asked you want that should focus on. Nah simple is like "CANT YOU SEE THE ISSUES"

Yeah man everybody on the community got something to complain about. Netcode issues, lack of good workshop tool issues, performance issues, anticheat issues, community server issues

welp like all hate trains i just guess i will wait for this one to eventually die out

[versed pecan]

no. you have silent aimbot powered by wgetware

[ocean turret]

https://tenor.com/view/milj-milk-skill-issue-spill-issue-spill-gif-25572474

wgetware in action

[pastel frigate]

new fiendhook competitor?

[gusty cave]

@rustic sierra TMI

[quasi sphinx]

what did you mean by this

[gusty cave]

too much information

[quasi sphinx]

i dont believe you

[gusty cave]

skill issue

[hot granite]

https://fixupx.com/dima_wallhacks/status/1716533863994761434?s=20

[gusty cave]

the two man flying contraption

[lilac glen]

Troll physics

[versed pecan]

rikuda da goat

[versed pecan]

https://csstats.gg/spray-patterns

@gusty cave lol.

[gusty cave]

hmm?

[versed pecan]

check the page pls

ty

[quasi sphinx]

csgo should have random spray pattern because it'd look more realistic

[gusty cave]

erm

[versed pecan]

competitive games shouldnt have random spray patterns

see competitive tf2 players rambling about random spread

[mild locust]

*see competitive

tf2 players rambling

about random spread*

- lowrule

[versed pecan]

(i do not give a single damn, you can throw my pipes anywhere)

[pastel frigate]

talon what has inspired your reformation

[quasi sphinx]

talon (deformed)

[versed pecan]

add me on steam pls i need to gift you a cool game.

[quasi sphinx]

i think you will gift a horrible game

[rustic sierra]

https://youtu.be/fiGarzzt9dQ

ai anticheat

also cs2 bot ai

[versed pecan]

Sorry: it's meant to be like that.

[versed pecan]

cs2 is weirdest of them all valve games

[lilac glen]

Dota

[versed pecan]

it’s the only game that was rushed

where did the deadlines come from

[lilac glen]

Idk

Prolly to force themselves to get something out

[ocean turret]

Artifact

[versed pecan]

read my next message

[lilac glen]

https://www.vxtiktok.com/t/ZT8BdDydM/

New squirtle peek

[quasi sphinx]

this video is so bad

[lilac glen]

Nuh uh

[supple summit]

no, this is clearly the César Cielo Peek

[lilac glen]

Who’s that

[supple summit]

look him up

[lilac glen]

RAHHAGGAHG

YOU WILL BE GROUND INTO FIBROUS POWDER

TURNED TO ASHES

[supple summit]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/César_Cielo

[lilac glen]

DIST TO DUST

Thank you 😸

[supple summit]

this keeps up with the theme of peeks named after people

the feats of this dude are astounding

he is basically a fish

[solar gate]

olympic swimmers are something else

you ever just like, compare phelps' proportions to the average person

[frigid dagger]

https://www.pcgamer.com/counter-strike-2-interview/

[gusty cave]

0ms achieved

funnily both of us are on the same network so makes no sense

k mine reached 2