Team Fortress 2 Megathread - winter is the most chill time of year

[spare obsidian]

true...

[left sand]

Please use more positive language

Please use more positive language

[kind falcon]

Please use more positive language

[spare obsidian]

damn pendatic behavior

[kind falcon]

Please use more positive language

[spare obsidian]

blocked

/j

[kind falcon]

oh its you

erm..

hi

[spare obsidian]

what?

🤨

[grim parcel]

with the phlog animation cancel funni

[orchid sorrel]

with the hot hand

[potent wolf]

[radiant merlin]

just found an old onedrive

i made this back in 2016

wtf

this was peak me

my old nickname was conrad, before i discovered ow

[kind falcon]

o.. oo w

[left sand]

anyone excited?

[crisp cedar]

no

but if its good ill be happy

might hop on for a few hours again

[orchid sorrel]

little bit

[formal dew]

I will enjoy poring over any technical changes or upgrades

[crisp cedar]

ill enjoy anything as long as they make the game fun again

[orchid sorrel]

https://tenor.com/view/how-do-we-tell-him-mr-krabs-spongebob-meme-spongebob-meme-gif-24063814

[wild grove]

excited to see what community fixes they'll add, I am prolly not gonna see the one by gamebanana tf2 modder newguy111 where it fixes weapon model issues.

[formal dew]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/337790132126089222/1121096698819793057/ao9r5MM.png

big if true

[wild grove]

It is.

but peeps do not know what the changes are gonna be.

[cursive peak]

What'd they update about it? Did they finally fix the A->E connector door glitch?

[wild grove]

sadly no one knows, all I know was that the changes to it was enough for it to be reuploaded to the workshop for revenue purposes.

[orchid sorrel]

mvm_steel

[cursive peak]

It's probably my favorite map in the game.

[zealous pond]

For what?

SMRPG remake, sure.

[wild grove]

talking about the summer update, idk why I would be super stoked cause VALVe could fumble the bag with everything except maybe the community fixes.

[next nymph]

pikmin 4

[paper sluice]

SMRPG remake is a dream come true,

But

It does look too modernized imo
Loses a bit of its original style

[orchid sorrel]

me, lets go

[spare obsidian]

i mean the og one was built with the Final Fantasy VI gameplay aspect (1994)

the remake, i'm not sure if was built using any of the PSP or PlayStation games's game play mechanic

[paper sluice]

Oh no I meant like

The visual style

[spare obsidian]

ah well, the visual style really tries to be has the original, i mean it looks good its just goofy lol

also i'm wondering ||how squarenix is gonna handle Culex boss lol||

[jagged pawn]

put sephiroth in smrpg

[zealous pond]

A bit, but I have to give them credit for sticking close to the original style.

[paper sluice]

Model wise yeah

Everything else so so

[radiant merlin]

link?

[wild grove]

it's prolly privated by now.

[slender nexus]

privated because it had the super mario rpg remake inside it

[wild grove]

this stuff gets leaked all the time though, like last year's frosty and rumford being leaked 1 week before the update came out.

[orchid sorrel]

wutville to

[wild grove]

wutville is such an ass map that it's good.

I remembered when it leaked tho.

It was a big deal cause no smissmas maps were ever added in a case update since 2014.

[paper sluice]

https://gamebanana.com/requests/50257

[cursive peak]

A much more fun mod would be to plant a bomb in that user's brain that goes off whenever they think of slurs.

[kind falcon]

https://gamebanana.com/sounds/68582

[craggy ridge]

LDKZDJNAIDJADAOKWOADAODKADOADA

help

💀 💀 💀

[kind falcon]

sad jellyfish

[summer steeple]

I kinda agree but also i like how it looks

there was almost no way they'd use old designs, as much as i miss bowser made out of balls

like mario looks a bit weird because its his modern design but like... gremlin-ized

but its still funny

just to see this little gremlin mario running

[formal dew]

staten island mario

[summer steeple]

also why is this in the tf2 channel lol

[slender nexus]

r/lostredditors moment

[summer steeple]

the music they played in the trailer made me a bit sad cause the boss theme felt a bit weak with the actual instruments

but all the sound effects seemed impeccably redone

like nearly identical

the thing that really made me realize "oh they really care" is when they showed a clip of one of geno's special moves

and it sounded exactly like i remembered it

[paper sluice]

https://tenor.com/view/leon-chokes-choking-ada-wong-gif-26380793

[summer steeple]

gonna move this discussion to #gaming-news🎮

[zealous pond]

It seemed good to me other than the omission of the record scratches.

[kind falcon]

lebron jame spotted on surf pvp

[craggy ridge]

All my strafes are W strafes because I don't take Ls 💪

[kind falcon]

anyway

lebron is a halfsideways enjoyer

[slender nexus]

lebrone jam

[kind falcon]

jam to jam to

[slender nexus]

come on and slam

and welcome to the jam

[kind falcon]

hi kikostar

[slender nexus]

[spare obsidian]

@orchid sorrel hey does the shadows map really has infinite respawn time LOLOLO?

[kind falcon]

nugget

[orchid sorrel]

its like cod zombies, so you respawn between each "wave"

there are also little vending machines around the map that will power you up in exchange for cash

the one in the barn will double ur max hp

[spare obsidian]

i was trying to find if anything happens if the respawn time goes to 0 lol

[spare obsidian]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5m7V9zWlYdM @radiant merlin welp another fix its incoming

[radiant merlin]

nah i don't have enough knowlegde about animations

for the mvm robots i just commented some broken lines and implemented a sigsegv idea

[mystic turtle]

Let's just hope this doesn't accidentally patch Spycrab

(which should work if you don't patch the disguise kit anims)

Silly autocorrect

[paper sluice]

It would not
Spy crab happens cuz the crouch anims for the disguise kit are actually just an older version of the knife anims from beta

https://gamebanana.com/mods/451635

[jagged pawn]

lmfao at the small health and ammo packs

truly a map

[summer steeple]

seems a bit big

[cursive peak]

I would've expected it to be a payload cart replacement.

[radiant merlin]

summer map leaked

it's [REDACTED]

[spare obsidian]

it's xmasless-wutville: smallvillage

[radiant merlin]

it's sharkbay

[wild grove]

played on that map a bit, not offended by it but it is pretty boring in my opinion.

[craggy ridge]

if you want a more realistic version there's a very interesting game called

https://tenor.com/view/iron-lung-beans-ocean-horror-gif-26116253

[wild grove]

why is the ocean made of beans?

[craggy ridge]

britain

[kind falcon]

thats where heinz gets all the beans

[wild grove]

There is one fun thing to note though, going into the water in the map ends up getting you killed by sharks.

like the gators in merc park

[jagged pawn]

Bigot League United vs Reliable Estrogen Distribution

[wild grove]

Burger League United vs Reliable Enchilada Distribution

[jagged pawn]

no that's not gay

[orchid sorrel]

Bisexual League United

[potent wolf]

Team Fortress 2 Megathread - gay edition

[hoary geyser]

creative name

[potent wolf]

thank you

[orchid sorrel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/885921140420263957/1122026504130396160/image.png

a little bit of trolling

[kind falcon]

bobma

[spare obsidian]

i think i'm goinbg to do a experiment with mscom's tf-patches repo, perhaps i can cook something to send has a patch?

[radiant merlin]

"You might be thinking that it's summer right now but you're wrong, it's still spring. And it will stay spring"

that's their excuse to not release the summer update yet

[cursive peak]

Summer updates are traditionally more July or August than June.

[small siren]

*Summer updates are

traditionally more July

or August than June.*

- steamworks

[spare obsidian]

hey @orchid sorrel what are the most tipical issues that you see when you force mvm to be on the BLUE/ROBOT Team?

[crisp cedar]

settle the fuck down theres like 70 days of summer left

[radiant merlin]

https://tenor.com/view/joke-that-was-a-joke-lads-tf2-team-fortress2-the-heavy-is-dead-gif-20870826

[orchid sorrel]

Mostly just ammo/overheal related stuff

And spy bot disguises

[potent wolf]

NOOO ITS ALL OVER TF2 IS DEAD GUYYYS

[orchid sorrel]

And the fact that robot models dont support like half the cosmetics

[spare obsidian]

noted, alright imma be cooking for some patches

[radiant merlin]

fix clientside ragdolls for func brush please

and this thing

https://github.com/ValveSoftware/Source-1-Games/issues/4866

[spare obsidian]

i think i'm going to do it by volumes

vol1 is gonna be fixes that are trivial to implement

(for example: shells lacks of sounds the fix is literally easy that idk why wasn't adressed so easy)

vol2 is going to gameui redesign, i literally over the years have done redisigns of the UI in the tf2 style

btw vol1 renames the executable to tf2

here's the reason: AMD/NVidia to this day still has some compatibility patches on their drivers that are a look up table base on the executable name, those patches are fine, if we're still on 2007, this doesn't make any sense for newer GPUs

this is why portal 2 in some amd cards haves some weird glitches

its a trivial fix that i wonder why wasn't done lol

[summer steeple]

i thought portal 2 had its own exe name

it does

[spare obsidian]

yeah that executable name is on the Nvidia/AMD compatibility look up table

renaming the executable to anything but that

fixes the issues with project textures under amd for example

[small siren]

*fixes the issues

with project textures under

amd for example*

- Brodspy

[summer steeple]

i mean that seems like its not an exe problem

because no other game uses portal2.exe

like thats amds fault not valves in this case

i get the point you're trying to make but i feel like portal 2 is a bad example

[spare obsidian]

yeah, that's the well know example since that's the one that ficool suggest me since a friend couldn't play portal 2 before the Vulkan update

[left sand]

yeah thats what hes saying

hes saying because the exe is named portal2, amd doesn't know its source

[summer steeple]

then why would changing tf2's exe from hl2.exe to tf2.exe make any difference?

[left sand]

i guess because some source patches are for older versions of the engine

but tbh

even csgo got performance problems

when they swapped exe names

[summer steeple]

i still just don't see how this is an exe naming issue and not an amd or nvidia issue

[left sand]

so id say its not worth it

[limpid panther]

performance problem'd

[summer steeple]

if they're the ones who do patches based off of exe names then them not being up to date is kind of their problem

[left sand]

workarounds are a thing

[left sand]

not for the customer

your job is to provide a good experience to the customer

fault/blame doesnt exist

[summer steeple]

also don't these companies still update their compatability lists?

[left sand]

there are hundreds of driver bugs

[summer steeple]

so if it gets added, wouldn't they just add tf2 to their list

[left sand]

which companies work around

[left sand]

yeah but the idea is now theyd be forced to make a separate, updated compatibility profile for the game

that happened to CSGO

it got worse performance at first

then better

[summer steeple]

i guess yeah if it forces them to get off their asses and do that then sure

they could also update the pre-existing ones but i guess they need a push to do that

[left sand]

idk

its like a launch thing

where since hl2.exe is used for so much

they cant really

[summer steeple]

yeah true, altho i don't think they have that excuse for portal 2

also, I just got this very vivid image in my head of gaben just calling like the CEO of nvidia on the phone and just saying "Hi this is Gabe Newell, we're updating the executible name of Team Fortress 2 from hl2.exe to tf2.exe, hopefully it will have been worth the wait"

i felt the need to share that

[cursive peak]

Personal or business phone?

[summer steeple]

business

[cursive peak]

I'm more amused by it happening via personal phone and in the middle of the night.

Or maybe it's more like a red direct line phone. Gaben picks up the phone, the one at Nvidia starts going off. The CEO runs over, horribly nervous about what The Gabe could be wanting. Gabe drops the line and hangs up.

[echo dock]

is heavy a power bottom?

[formal dew]

gabe surveying his fiefdom like immortan joe

[cursive peak]

Heavy's a bottom, at least. "Get behind me, Doctor!"

[slender nexus]

true

[left sand]

follow me doctor

[formal dew]

we go together doctor

[orchid sorrel]

Heavys a switch

[cursive peak]

Heavy is not a gaming console.

[spare obsidian]

uhh seems like shells are supposed to emit a sound when landed

[orchid sorrel]

@sacred totem might be able to answer more

Hes working on a vscript reverse

[sacred totem]

everything

if a player disconnects while on blue then rejoins the game will crash, blu team has infinite ammo so you need to make your own ammo draining mechanics, players cannot pick up packs (including money) when on blue so you need to check if players are within radius of a pack in a think function and quickly switch them to red and back to pick them up (this won't work correctly for money)

[orchid sorrel]

Yeah a lot of the jank is ironed out by potato’s rafmod plugin

[sacred totem]

iirc blu players can't interact with the upgrade station but that might be wrong

players have annoying loud footsteps that you can only get rid of by setting them to miniboss, which will also play the giant explosion sound and make miniguns/rocket launchers sound like giant variants

blu players can ready up and start the countdown timer, but if everyone is ready the timer won't kick down to 10s

[spare obsidian]

gotta fix those things then lol

[sacred totem]

the HUD also only shows red players/bots so you can't see the rest of the team score unless you switch players back to red when they're doing +showscores

whatever you want to do with blu players it's probably not worth it

everything is hardcoded to players on red bots on blu

[spare obsidian]

i see

[sacred totem]

raf/sig got around it by faking pretty much everything by only transmitting specific netprops/datamaps to the client and not the server alongside all the detours and whatnot, which is squarely in sourcemod/rafmod extension territory

[spare obsidian]

i would look for all this in vol2 of the fixes

[summer steeple]

you will need to rewrite a lot of mvm code for that

its ridiculous just how hardcoded it is

[spare obsidian]

i've had patience and big head lol

rn i'm re-enabling the shell sounds

[sacred totem]

also if you put bots on red they will spam the death sound constantly

[small siren]

*also if you put

bots on red they will spam the

death sound constantly*

- braindawg

[sacred totem]

that one you can get around with a custom level_sounds file though

[spare obsidian]

yeah i think i would have a long road

my test map is the example map

[radiant merlin]

https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/440/view/3651904437107699009

valve using this low res image when they could pay like 20 $ to a good sfm artist to make them a nice one💀

[summer steeple]

jesus how old is this image at this point

that lighting hasn't been around for a long time

[spare obsidian]

its actually from tf2 trailer 2 lol

look at the floor that's clearny not fro mthe final

[summer steeple]

i haven't played 2fort in so long i was noticed the floor but was like "i could be wrong and its just like that"

[spare obsidian]

yeah the give away its the shading

[kind falcon]

gineers face

[left sand]

thhr communityy huh ummsge hss to br low rrrs

[kind falcon]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/408207400395472906/1063979806997360750/caption.gif

[radiant merlin]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-catdriving-gif-22785638

me going to the houses of those mfs that are stuck in 2007

[kind falcon]

you dont like emos?

[slender nexus]

drunk mastercoms

[kind falcon]

proof?

[orchid sorrel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/437863876587945985/1122373020288286740/2023-06-24_23-49-08.mp4

someone made a new debuff in potato

embed fail...

https://streamable.com/p5ocy1

[radiant merlin]

lol

i wonder if an antiheal debuff weapon would be good for tf2

[smoky notch]

no

[orchid sorrel]

at best maybe on like, some gimmicky robot

but in the hands of an actual player prob not

https://streamable.com/ptbvfe

💀

[spare obsidian]

#ifdef CLIENT_DLL
    // Brass
    // For manual ejection of brass
    virtual void ManualBrassEject( void ) {}
#endif

something i learned from porting HL2 to alien swarm

i can manually trigger a shell ejection

i could use this to force the minigun to eject brass

or when reloading a revolver

[tight oak]

I’m just gonna say it. The TF2 mercs are sexier than the overwatch heroes.

[crisp cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/brave-why-controversial-yet-so-brave-gif-16881791

https://tenor.com/view/conbrosations-eddie-hot-takes-salt-bae-gif-26059723

[high current]

Isn’t that technically any weapon cuz of crit heals👀

[next nymph]

or just dealing damage i suppose

[high current]

Does fall damage reset crit heals? I’ve checked before but I don’t recall the outcome.

[spare obsidian]

hmmm i wonder why client_precache.txt can't be use to precache particles

🤔

i mean i can add that funtionality

[kind falcon]

cat

[kind falcon]

me when i hear fortnite_teammate_down.mp3

[slender nexus]

me when I change my kill sound to tf_fart_reverb.mp3

[kind falcon]

me when i change my hitsound to ghetto smosh sfx

[spare obsidian]

_ _

that wasn't so hard

[kind falcon]

nice video

[spare obsidian]

fr too, idk how many bullets does the minigun needs to eject

[next nymph]

ten thousand rounds per minute

[spare obsidian]

ironically i did that but it crashed the game so hard lol

[small siren]

*~~ironically i

did that but it crashed the game

so hard lol~~*

- Brodspy

[spare obsidian]

alright i think i found a better compromise, for the Minigun the fade time its twice fast

[kind falcon]

for every shot draw 1000 tracers

[slender nexus]

im already tracer

[kind falcon]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/981687107020030026/1120969861884035092/caption.gif

[spare obsidian]

the shorstop now ejects 4 bullets when reloading

[craggy ridge]

https://vxtwitter.com/Heckingtonss/status/1672939925153492993 WHAT

[kind falcon]

is what hes saying

[spare obsidian]

@radiant merlin hey

do you know what's the name for the stock sniper smg?

[crisp cedar]

...smg?

[potent wolf]

tf_weapon_smg?

@spare obsidian

[spare obsidian]

forgot to mention the model lol

my bad

seems like smgs and pistols has attachment for brass ejection

but for odd reasons valve never added them

[radiant merlin]

so apparently the only entity that has clientside collision with ragdolls is prop_door_rotating

[spare obsidian]

yeah lol

[radiant merlin]

why

[spare obsidian]

console optimizations?

remenber that source was heavy optimized for consoles

when the orangebox was out

same goes with the TF2 Assets lol

[spare obsidian]

does the spy revolver's spin barreL can only hold 6 bullets right?

trying to ensure consistency

[radiant merlin]

all revolvers in tf2 only have 6 bullets

[spare obsidian]

Welp then i did it right

[summer steeple]

i feel like hardcoding a value is probably a bad idea

hm i was going to suggest grabbing the clip size but then mvm upgrades would mess with that

i wonder if you can get the base clip size of a weapon without the mvm item attribute

but i think they use the same one...

oh actually it might be a different attribute

so if you want i guess you could grab the default clip size for the weapon, apply the "clip size bonus" and "clip size penalty" attributes to get the clip size of the weapon

man there's lots of weird attributes i've never seen before

radial buff for fists?

a zoom fov penalty?

[potent wolf]

It's commented out too

[summer steeple]

that... doesn't surprise me

[potent wolf]

// Disabled this for now, because we have no attributes using it

[summer steeple]

are there any miniguns with different spinup times?

community description

custom texture lo

oh man set bonuses

thats an old one

i don't think i started playing until after they got removed

[potent wolf]

weapon_gatling_gun??

[summer steeple]

uhhh that might be brass beast

ye iti s

[potent wolf]

I am blind

[summer steeple]

gesture speed increase 🤔

huh?

[potent wolf]

I think that's the kunai attribute

[summer steeple]

oh maybe

i was just very confused because usually this stuff is super verbose

electrical... airblast?

[summer steeple]

ah

press and hold

this seems familiar?

interesting

[potent wolf]

high five has it?

[summer steeple]

huh

[potent wolf]

oh, a lot of taunts have it

[summer steeple]

I know high five has some animations for a high-five failing but idk if thats possible to trigger

[potent wolf]

tf_highfive_debug is a real convar

[summer steeple]

now thats just mean

the one everyone knows, of course

zombie

loose cannon?

[potent wolf]

yeah

at least i think?

[summer steeple]

i only guessed that because right underneath it was "grenade no explode on impact"

this stuff is super confusing because a lot of it is all over the place

[potent wolf]

It's listed in the loose cannon attributes

[summer steeple]

i assume because of stuff they add in dev and then add to the game later

different implementation times etc

i just noticed an id number they skip over too

[potent wolf]

KeyValues

[summer steeple]

bruh imagine weapons that would stop you from crouching or jumping

[radiant merlin]

valorant's new agent

[summer steeple]

i don't play bad games sorry

[spare obsidian]

this is mostly for MVM gaints

some of these are mostly for MVM bots

[summer steeple]

ah that makes sense

some of them are actually marked as "MVM" but most aren't

[spare obsidian]

i find baffling how the HHH bot doesn't have its own killfeed

it only shows has if nothing killed a player

[spare obsidian]

god lord who thinked that was a good idea to use special charaters in localization files that allows certain parts of a string have a different color

💀

[summer steeple]

whats the problem with that?

I mean i guess its not as much control as being able to put direct hex color into the files but to me it seems like a great way to separate actual text from control characters

hm it is kind of hardcoded based on where the string is

so theres that

[kind falcon]

minigun

[summer steeple]

thats only when revving

i highly doubt that they give you an attribute just while you're revving to stop jumping

[spare obsidian]

idk if anybody cares but the hud chat now behaves like in L4D2

the console now outputs the color of the string that currently is using

[formal dew]

in live or a change you can implement

[spare obsidian]

a change i implemented lol

on live doesn't have this

i wish it have that

also i funny bug of the chat i fixed is that makes the mouse appear where you put the chat filter tinny windows

[kind falcon]

heavy is just like huntsman sniper

god i love the slowed condition

[radiant merlin]

so i just found that the creator of ctf frosty is an ow2 env artist

[spare obsidian]

wow

how does a little tf2 mapper ends in a AAA studio?

lol

[small siren]

*how does a little

tf2 mapper ends in

a AAA studio?*

- Brodspy

[summer steeple]

because its experience?

and also because its quite possible that tf2 mapping is their hobby and they had other work experience outside of that

[formal dew]

tf2 mapping aint a career

mapping is

[summer steeple]

plus i think getting your map into a game is a big plus on your resume

[cursive peak]

Hobbyist to professional is a legit trajectory.

Icefrog was just a Warcraft III modder.

[summer steeple]

honestly i think a lot of companies would prefer real-world experience to a degree

[cursive peak]

Lots of tales of guys who dicked around with coding during high school and went right into professional programming without any sort of degree.

[orchid sorrel]

They would rather you have both

The “entry level” bachelors and 4 years of experience job opening

[cursive peak]

I still like this tweet I saw from a guy who created some library. He was commenting about the years of experience requirement with said library and how even he didn't have that many years with it.

On some job posting.

It was like 5 years when he only created it 3 years ago or something like that.

[summer steeple]

both sure, but if they had to pick one i'm sure they'd pick experience over a degree

[jagged pawn]

are we allowed to discuss sharkbay here

[left sand]

yeah

[radiant merlin]

😭

[spare obsidian]

the what?

[radiant merlin]

i have that "you won't scam me" phrase since i got scammed

[summer steeple]

what is this weird angled footage

did this dude take footage of their monitor

like with a webcam

[radiant merlin]

wtf happened

[summer steeple]

sharkbay

[left sand]

steam is down rn

[spare obsidian]

steam died

[radiant merlin]

kinda weird

all other maps work fine

oh nvm

[summer steeple]

sharkbay killed steam

[spare obsidian]

[potent wolf]

Guys i cant use steam help plsss

[left sand]

good

[potent wolf]

😭

[summer steeple]

bruh i am bad at mapping

there was a place where you could see both spawn doors and defend them

so i was like "let me add another one on the other side"

and you can see it from the same spot

[cursive peak]

I once saw a KotH map with spawn to spawn sightlines.

[summer steeple]

dear god

[cursive peak]

It was the best entry in that particular map competition.

[summer steeple]

huh

[cursive peak]

https://www.mlptf2mods.com/mods/maps_king_of_the_hill/koth_ponyville

There it is. I disagree with the 3rd place spot. Should have been first.

First and second more aesthetically on point, but they played like shit.

[small siren]

*First and second more

aesthetically on point,

but they played like shit.*

- steamworks

[grim parcel]

just use mastercomfig 🙄

[potent wolf]

ewww no use fiendhook

[slender nexus]

use talonbox

[potent wolf]

@kind falcon

[summer steeple]

i am remembering why i stopped working on this map

everytime I open it up i go "this is terrible but i really desperately do not want to remake an entire portion of the map from scratch for the 40th time"

even tho basically no one complained about the parts i think are terrible

[jagged pawn]

basically the listing for sharkbay very briefly was approved by valve and then they quickly removed that. seems to suggest it's getting added

didn't know if we could discuss here since it's TECHNICALLY a leak, though not in the same way as other banned leaks

[grim parcel]

the one thing that could defeat fiendhook

[jagged pawn]

there's also the fact that steel got uploaded to the workshop finally. not sure what that means. some people are speculating that it's getting added to in-game competitive but I don't see why this suggests that

[spare obsidian]

i want to work my volume of fixes slowly, since i'm using all of my knowledge i gathered since 2013 lol

and i don't want to rush anything

[radiant merlin]

are these type of building legal in the us?

no columns 💀

[hoary geyser]

why wouldn't it be legal?

[radiant merlin]

the regulation of my country as a seismic one, requires every building to be 1. confined system or 2. frame system

otherwise it's illegal

and confined systems cannot exceed 5 stories

[cursive peak]

That building looks pretty similar to an old factory or warehouse type deal in the US.

[summer steeple]

i think building regulations are mostly done by the state

[cursive peak]

And earthquake rules are usually only in states that experience significant ones with any frequency.

[summer steeple]

ye

[cursive peak]

Can't wait for the New Madrid fault to go off again.

[radiant merlin]

also the roofs are placed incorrectly

it can't drain rain

[cursive peak]

Looks like they're angled enough for rain to just run off.

[radiant merlin]

that's a very ineffective way to drain rain

look at the other roofs from the right

[radiant merlin]

and it has no gutters

[radiant merlin]

the mvm scoreboard looked better before

[formal dew]

drip

[orchid sorrel]

youd be surprised by the shit they let go by in the usa

[orchid sorrel]

i also liked the old loot screen

https://external-preview.redd.it/SEH4aARk0UGCxpi0HRsWR-pH8j8zAWNF0Q4Y6ZU2T4I.jpg?auto=webp&v=enabled&s=734bc034409824c2fe35d6732326c23790f0ec56

[spare obsidian]

https://github.com/FriskTheFallenHuman/tf2-patches/commit/66021b3ce9339ed0d20c84d13abfa6a0724d64b1 here it is

[formal dew]

dope

[summer steeple]

I should re-do my old static prop optimization

it had a noticeable performance difference when i tested it but the way i implemented it was so godawful

it required an update to the bsp format

when i could've easily done everything i needed at map load

[zealous pond]

Is Sharkbay good? Is it easy to camp in a safe position and farm kills?

[left sand]

There is an area near the boat which seems perfect for that

[radiant merlin]

also steel is being updated too

[zealous pond]

Watch the only change be better signposting.

[spare obsidian]

hmm

why does tf2 doesn't uses detail props?

[hoary geyser]

idk what that is but it might have something to do with it being from 2007

[spare obsidian]

https://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Detail_props

interesting css only uses detail shapes system

#if defined(DOD_DLL) || defined(CSTRIKE_DLL)
#define USE_DETAIL_SHAPES
#endif

yep

[summer steeple]

tf2 uses plenty of detail props

they're all auto placed tho

go to any map with grass and you'll see detail props

[radiant merlin]

more noticeable in ji maps

[spare obsidian]

i think didn't speciifed correctly

i was saying if it uses what DODs and CS:S uses

detail shapes

[summer steeple]

oh

[spare obsidian]

i need a opinion of mcoms about detail shapes

should i enable or i shouldn't?

[spare obsidian]

https://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Detail_props#Shapes i'm a bit late but here's this

might as well backport func_detail_blocker

[formal dew]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2967994743

[paper sluice]

Csgo

[spare obsidian]

bruh gmod issue tracker is a great resource to backport crap from newer engines

lol

i managed to port almost all ASW Shaders

the pain is now compile them lol

[spare obsidian]

its there any real reason why rain is disabled when its view from monitors?

[summer steeple]

could just be an optimization

[radiant merlin]

if valve adds this then they should get rid of the backpack limit

[spare obsidian]

treesway was added post jungle inferno right?

[formal dew]

i believe it was added in ji

[summer steeple]

yeah

i think valve backported it simply because they wanted to use it for the merc park trees

[spare obsidian]

noted, so i need to add other things from L4D2 like the effects controllers

[summer steeple]

which uh, tends to go for a lot of things that valve backports

[spare obsidian]

does it have the funny bug that was in CSGO?

lol

[summer steeple]

what bug

the env_wind thing?

[spare obsidian]

yeah

[summer steeple]

probably

i'm not sure if many tf2 maps even use env_wind

[formal dew]

It would be cool if old maps got treesway

would it require a new map compile to add it tho

[summer steeple]

nope

[formal dew]

nice

[summer steeple]

its all by the prop!

there's actually a few mods out there that already add treesway to old tree models

https://gamebanana.com/mods/36719

[spare obsidian]

oh yeah i was making this too

i should finish it at somepoint

[summer steeple]

honestly the treesway shader is kinda crappy but i think thats probably intentional

it just wiggles all the vertices on the tree, so the bottom of the tree just like... vibrates

but it is easier to setup than trying to rig a tree or use like vertex colors to paint on weights for how muchyou want it to bend

[formal dew]

cheap and works when you dont look too closely

[summer steeple]

yeah

its great for OOB trees

like the ones on mercpark

[summer steeple]

but ones like say those trees in that mod thumbnail from sawmill

are probably much easier to notice

[spare obsidian]

why not for the palm tree lol?

[formal dew]

presumably the skybox itself has tiny tree models that somehow fuckup with tree sway

[summer steeple]

that would make sense

like the shader doesn't take into account the 3d skybox scale

[formal dew]

ye

[summer steeple]

i wonder if you could somehow fix that in the shader itself

wiggly

bruh i cahnged my OBS settings recently and now my videos don't have thumbnails

weird

[formal dew]

these edibles aint shit-

[spare obsidian]

https://github.com/ShiroDkxtro2/ACROHS-LUX_-Shaders-Project once this is out of beta (that i'm part of) i swear i'm gonna make a vol3 just for changing the engine shaders with these tl;dr thoser are a totall rewritted of the stock shaders it has a made from scrath infected shader on beta lol

they're madded on compilation time and speed lol

[formal dew]

🙏 for tf2 getting the steam deck upgrades other source games got in 2021 and 2022

[summer steeple]

will they fix the core shader to not be hardcoded to one specific spot on the map

[spare obsidian]

yeah, valve shaders according to my friend: are a totall stupidy

they use registers to where they shouldn't

they waste 3 registers to do one thing

[summer steeple]

i read that core shader a few days ago and holy shit

the person who wrote that was just like

miserable

they named a variable "realFuckingNormal"

[spare obsidian]

the fact that VLG on my pc doesn't take a whole fucking week to compile when using Lux shaders

really tell me how tf did my friend optimized it

he also has been updating the VDC shaders wiki

[summer steeple]

is it this dude

who somehow managed to put a gif of the sorse logo behind their page

oh wait i see them its the same username as their github

[spare obsidian]

https://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/LUX

[spare obsidian]

https://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/User:ShiroDkxtro2 nah this one

[summer steeple]

ye i found them

[spare obsidian]

idk what black magic my friend did

but the fact that i can compile shaders

without leaving my pc it really says something

there's differences in colors but those are like from my beta testing

very minor

its almost 1:1 to stock shaders

also funny makeshift Infected shader

[radiant merlin]

you need to divide your model

that's what de_prime creators from csgo did

[cursive peak]

https://twitter.com/RGL_gg/status/1673433518888632322

RGLgg (@RGL_gg)

Ready for some INVITE @TeamFortress HIGHLANDER? Well you better be, because Team Fun is taking on FroggieLand TONIGHT @ 9:30PM ET! Also be sure to join us TOMORROW @ 11PM ET when we enter STAGE 2 of the invite season! HL TONIGHT 9:30PM ET @ https://t.co/1biXOJn0WA

Twitter · Jun 26, 2023, 8:50 PM

[summer steeple]

wouldn't that cause the part of the tree that sways and the part of the tree that doesn't to be separated?

like there'd be a gap at the point where the 2 models connect

because on one model the vertices stay still and on the other they wiggle

[radiant merlin]

idk but de_prime trees are tall so you woulnd't notice

the division only occurs in the materials, not in the model btw

yeah it's weird

[spare obsidian]

hey anybody in here knows if tf2 has ash particle/texture?

[spare obsidian]

should i go with the stylized effect has like any tf2 rain particle?

or just left this has is? (the texture is from L4D2 rain particle)

actually i can use the concussion nade warpeffect lol

[paper sluice]

?

Oh like

On the screen?

[spare obsidian]

ye

[paper sluice]

Yeah a subtler conc effect would prolly be best

[jagged pawn]

I'm so used to the answer being no but I'm gonna ask just to be safe: will this work in casual

[summer steeple]

doubtful

i think it requires a model recompilation

oh actually its a material shader

so still no

oh they actually have parameters to stop the trunk from swaying

[small siren]

*oh they actually

have parameters to stop

the trunk from swaying*

- treacherousfiend

[jagged pawn]

damn

easily the worst part of casual is how it breaks almost every mod 😭

[summer steeple]

i mean it makes sense why

they can't really easily differentiate between a mod that could cause issues and one that won't

ok for some reason valve just decided to set the start radius to like

0

for the JI trees

i wonder how these are implemented because it definitely does not start to happen between 20% of the radius of the origin (whatever that means) and 200 world units

oh i see, it does work

its just that usually the bottom of the tree is embedded in the ground so it looks a bit weirder

i'm actually kind of surprised at how indepth this shader is

kinda just wish it didn't give this look as if the trees were breathing

[small siren]

*kinda just wish it

didn't give this look as if

the trees were breathing*

- treacherousfiend

[summer steeple]

cause it kinda makes my skin crawl

[cursive peak]

Just wait until you realize they're watching you, too.

[summer steeple]

yooo this tree has square coconuts

[cursive peak]

MC reference.

[orchid sorrel]

https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1CohLgskzZCydEhdF1Y5GmFPh0Bu1fOoz3QTTkMItLNA/edit?pli=1#slide=id.g22aeb548142_0_55

someone in potato made a little guide on mvm pacing and how to keep players entertained while also retaining fairness/difficulty

dunno how many people here are big on mvm, but if anybody wants to give their 2cents feel free

Its still a wip, just keep in mind

[spare obsidian]

ay idk if DrCactus would care

but now tanks gives a kill feed notice

and has a propper name for the death cam

[orchid sorrel]

o cool

yeah that seems like a good change

[cursive peak]

Half hour to Highlander.
https://www.twitch.tv/rglgg

[spare obsidian]

welp here's it

the only issue atm its that the particles moves with the camera

[spare obsidian]

alright

uhh idk

like, the particles follows the player camera

this seems to be also an issue in CSGO too

[spare obsidian]

uhhh

it was easy to add The Horseless Headless Horsemann to the kill feed lol

valve literally have everything set up for it

hey @orchid sorrel @summer steeple should i give the HHH a boss bar like other bosses?

[orchid sorrel]

Nah, i think its fine since he doesnt lock the point

And i think the lack of a bar adds to the tension

[spare obsidian]

welp then i just restore its missing kill feed

since technically everything is inplace for it

just valve forgot about it

[orchid sorrel]

Yeah thats good

[spare obsidian]

i'm scraching my head to where the heck is the og 2015 particle for HHH

[spare obsidian]

here's my man fixed

@orchid sorrel

[orchid sorrel]

he got the pikmin 2 poison back

[spare obsidian]

wanna know what's the issue?

volvo coding moment

they put the particles on spawn

rather than on client think

...literally

all of these years

it wasn't that valve remove it

it was literally a mistake lol

[orchid sorrel]

zamn,,,

[spare obsidian]

better picture of the HHH particles

another fix its to create a propper freezer cam background/target id for halloween NPCs

all of them fallback to RED

[summer steeple]

i think thats a hud thing tho? the team colored hud elements usually have red as their default and not gray

[spare obsidian]

Yeah it is

uhh neat

[summer steeple]

i think some hud elements even have blue default

its kind of a mess tbh

[spare obsidian]

yeah

[kind falcon]

my guy is stinky

[spare obsidian]

why

[kind falcon]

he be stinking

[summer steeple]

holy moly

I just converted all the folders in mycustom to vpks

[small siren]

*I just converted

all the folders in custom

to vpks*

- treacherousfiend

[summer steeple]

tf2 launches so much faster

actually ridiculous

altho i do have a lot of asset packs for mapping

for reference, this is my custom folder now

the only stuff not vpks is asset packs i'm actively working on and my hud

this is all the stuff i converted to VPK

and iirc the way that tf2 handles loose files is that it has to index all of them at launch

and its slow at that

so indexing over 15k files

but with vpk thats already handled

[kind falcon]

vpk your vpks

[summer steeple]

doesn't work 😔

[kind falcon]

we need vpkx then

[slender nexus]

vpkhook

[potent wolf]

terrible game smh

[next nymph]

no, when tf2 loads a file it has to check if that file exists in a folder, for every folder. The main benefit of vpk's is that they have an index

[summer steeple]

oh god so like

everytime a file is referenced it then checks if it exists in custom?

for loose files

[spare obsidian]

tf2 does a lot of filesystem api calls to mount the custom files

so yeah

vpks are technically faster since like jarate say

they're indexed

[summer steeple]

ye i knew why vpks were faster I just didn't know how exactly loose files worked

[glass musk]

so uhh

do y'all think the summer update is dropping tomorrow

[crisp cedar]

it drops whenever it drops

[jagged pawn]

50/50 odds, it either drops or it doesn't

[grim parcel]

robin walker himself told me its coming out friday

[kind falcon]

im robin walker

[grim parcel]

true

[spare obsidian]

https://github.com/FriskTheFallenHuman/tf2-patches/commit/e61b3cd6a4384a682277b7abd677f0a33a36c22f it is live

[paper sluice]

It would be funny if it came out with the summer sale

[spare obsidian]

hmmm

should i, add the old tf_zombie has a separate entity for map makers?

[spare obsidian]

    // HACK: keep legacy support for the old tf_zombie since a lot of maps relies on them
    if ( FClassnameIs( this, "tf_zombie" ) )
    {
        SetClassname( "tf_skeleton" );
    }

Certified valve™️ moment

[spare obsidian]

@orchid sorrel for when you make a custom mvm mission you're only limited to MVM bots right?

maybe if i don't end lazy i could in the near future, merge some parts of raid into MVM logic, all behind a funny flag in the entity itself

[formal dew]

why does only soldier have a bug where weapon sounds cut off when you switch weapons

[orchid sorrel]

You can also use halloween bosses with some trickery

[spare obsidian]

elaborate, i'm all ears

[orchid sorrel]

I’ll have to check some pop files in a bit, but some old potato missions spawn hhh and mono

[orchid sorrel]

so, i compared a newer mission with horsemann (tresspasser) and some old canteen crasher missions

in the pre rafmod missions, it was done via internal map point templates

so not as universal as I thought

[spare obsidian]

i see

#ifdef STAGING_ONLY
    m_bBonusRound = tf_mvm_bonus.GetBool();
    if ( m_bBonusRound )
    {
        Assert( m_hBonusBoss == NULL );
        m_hBonusBoss = dynamic_cast< CBaseCombatCharacter * >( CreateEntityByName( "eyeball_boss" ) );
        if ( m_hBonusBoss )
        {
            bool bFoundSpawnPoint = false;
            CBaseEntity *spawnPoint = NULL;
            while( ( spawnPoint = gEntList.FindEntityByClassname( spawnPoint, "info_target" ) ) != NULL )
            {
                if ( FStrEq( STRING( spawnPoint->GetEntityName() ), "spawn_boss_startpoint" ) )
                {
                    bFoundSpawnPoint = true;
                    break;
                }
            }

            if ( bFoundSpawnPoint )
            {
                m_hBonusBoss->SetAbsOrigin( spawnPoint->GetAbsOrigin() );
                DispatchSpawn( m_hBonusBoss );
            }
            else
            {
                AssertMsg( 0, "CPopulationManager::StartCurrentWave trying to spawn a bonus boss, but cannot find spawn_boss_startpoint info_target in the map" );
                UTIL_Remove( m_hBonusBoss );
                m_hBonusBoss = NULL;
                m_bBonusRound = false;
            }
        }
    }
#endif

welp

seems like valve was testing halloween bosess on MVM

this is from the mvm pop manager

[orchid sorrel]

[spare obsidian]

yeah this is a long shot

but if i managed to pull it out, it would really be worth it

[kind falcon]

no discussion of cheating/"hacks",

[spare obsidian]

bruh

[orchid sorrel]

[visual egret]

is it possible to see ubers fading on dx8?

[kind falcon]

computer

[radiant merlin]

"dx8 ultra old rendered"

"does it work?"

[kind falcon]

why cant people adapt

[slender nexus]

grandma's laptop from 2007

[kind falcon]

not the answer to my question

[slender nexus]

[left sand]

5 hours

[kind falcon]

What could that possibly mean

:glueless:

[left sand]

nooo why dont you have any glue

[kind falcon]

wait I have to prepare my hundred premium tem fortress account

for easy profit

[left sand]

erm

[kind falcon]

what

[potent wolf]

orange

[kind falcon]

that’s a mandarin

[left sand]

no

tangerin

[kind falcon]

no

mandarin

[left sand]

tanderin

[potent wolf]

theres no difference when they're in my mouth

[left sand]

uhmm q2 looking quite fishy

[kind falcon]

i only invest in real value assets

including counter strike, team fortress 2 and dota items

My linkedin profile pic

Please hire me for macdonald I lost all money on crypto

(I gambled all of it)

[spare obsidian]

time to blacklist you from everything

[kind falcon]

🤐

[left sand]

i love gumball

[kind falcon]

gumbaling

[slender nexus]

https://tenor.com/view/temmie-h-oi-undertale-gif-8153823

[spare obsidian]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7A2CUnk1TQs ah yes

[kind falcon]

not watching the video so i can see this bug

[spare obsidian]

alright sooo @orchid sorrel i had to create a new custom damage for tank since in order to show it on the kill feed

[glass musk]

so next week new update ig

I’m so glad they didn’t drop it now

[formal dew]

Why

[glass musk]

because I’m cleaning my room and waiting for some pc accessories to arrive

[formal dew]

understandable

[spare obsidian]

nice

[next nymph]

@livid oracle what are your thoughts on this weapon suggestion

[hoary geyser]

sorry I only use level 2 and above weapons

[spare obsidian]

https://github.com/FriskTheFallenHuman/tf2-patches/commit/fa7cf49d6718099a3f4926337618d0da888c11c7 another one in the bag

hey @formal dew @summer steeple how usefull would be the game instructor from L4D2 if it was added in TF2?

[formal dew]

is that the pointers to like objectives n stuff

that pop up on the hud

[spare obsidian]

yep

[cursive peak]

TF2 at least used to have such a thing that could be controlled by another person.

[formal dew]

isnt that already in training mode

[summer steeple]

doesn't tf2 already have something like that?

yeah in training mode

[cursive peak]

Did they ever fully axe training mode? I know it was the source of a lot of glitches/exploits.

[formal dew]

it's still in the find a game menu

unchanged since 2011 or whenever

[formal dew]

would it be per map or per like game object regardless of map

[spare obsidian]

like in L4D2 you can create custom objectives with ease

any mod/game can define its own set of lessons

that are auto triggered

[formal dew]

wouldn't hurt

Looking at engine branch features that would be cool in tf2

[spare obsidian]

oh yeah

i was trying to get that in

somehow

i never managed to do it

perhaps that could be something that @left sand could pull off

i'm just a dude that hit keys and expect them to work

[formal dew]

wots this

[spare obsidian]

https://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Soundscripts#Operator stacks @formal dew

[formal dew]

neat

[spare obsidian]

i think vol1 fixes pack its ready

not ground breaking or anything just minor fixes for minor inconveniences

[formal dew]

have yall fixed that thing where stickies dont leave explosion decals unless they detonate by having too many out

[spare obsidian]

elaborate

[formal dew]

If you manually detonate stickies they won't leave explosion marks

[small siren]

*If you manually

detonate stickies they won't

leave explosion markd*

- borealis64

[formal dew]

If one explodes due to having too many it will leave marks

[radiant merlin]

omg

the engi robot has an unused backstab animation

[kind falcon]

engi robot backstabs that sentry of his

[spare obsidian]

i think this could be use for when the spy has the armor penetration upgrade

[radiant merlin]

arm no longer broken

[craggy ridge]

yeah they stopped using it ever since the incident

[kind falcon]

what incident

[craggy ridge]

9/11

[spare obsidian]

hey @radiant merlin @summer steeple @formal dew for code pathes do i need to make a steam workshop submision?

[radiant merlin]

for some reason this bone doesn't attach

[radiant merlin]

@spare obsidian well you can upload it to the workshop

[summer steeple]

the few code fixes i've done i just emailed to valve

they haven't implemented any of them though

altho tbh i've only emailed them about a code fix like 2 or 3 times and for some reason i just avoid emailing eric

some part of me is like "don't bug him, he's got better shit to do"

but like

its an email

[spare obsidian]

where do you find the eric's email? lol

[summer steeple]

they don't really publicize the actual email adresses now but i think there's an email forwarder on valve's website?

https://www.valvesoftware.com/en/people

oh interesting i didn't realize that the "contact" button was only for some of them

eric included

[spare obsidian]

https://www.valvesoftware.com/en/contact you mean this site?

[summer steeple]

no specifically the "people" page

you can click on a person and it gives a mini bio and sometimes has a link

i... didn't know eric worked for NoA... huh

[spare obsidian]

alright imma pack everything and ensure everything work has intented

fixed the weird particle rain bug now

[summer steeple]

the actual email addresses themselves aren't very hard to find, if they reply to you its direct anyway, but considering they setup this email forwarder its prob best to use it instead of just sharing the actual address

iirc they used to just give out the email address

[spare obsidian]

i see

[next nymph]

what better is there for him than "here's a free bugfix"

[summer steeple]

i mean true

[cursive peak]

It's not hard to figure out Valve email addresses anyway.

[formal dew]

i emailed them once about a severe bug but it was so blatant that it would have gotten fixed anyway

about game brightness not being a whitelisted setting in comp

maybe one other basic video setting

I forgor

[cursive peak]

I tried to add Eric Smith on Steam once.

Also, if you're on HLDS, you've likely got Eric's email address memorized from seeing it so much.

[formal dew]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=762599823

[left sand]

what happened!

[cursive peak]

He declined.

[kind falcon]

i tried to add tyler ninja blevins on epic games once

[spare obsidian]

anbydoy knows how do i disable the nextbot's ai?

asking since i need to take some pictures

[potent wolf]

nb_stop apparently?

haven't tested it myself

[spare obsidian]

first feature nailed

[summer steeple]

at least now it doesn't look like HLDS emails go directly from the email, its all from an hlds email... but it also just basically has the email address in the "from" info

[spare obsidian]

i think i'm going to expand this

to add both old and new rain type that's basically a custom particle

i did this for my mapbase mp port

[cursive peak]

https://vxtwitter.com/4G_b4nny/status/1674924396543373312

[radiant merlin]

now i know how to make bodygroups for the robots

i'll be cooking

[cursive peak]

Meth is not bodygroups.

[grim parcel]

https://tenor.com/view/cook-breaking-bad-hoodie-gif-13536614

[spare obsidian]

i think one change i added over the original l4d2 weather func_precipitation is that the particles would be disable if the user ask to not show them

i may add the ability to set custom particles in vol2

[spare obsidian]

what i'm supposed to look at that video? lol

[spare obsidian]

does this image explains the new feature of chat colore messages from the console?

also i didn't show it properly last time but here's HHH fully restore body flame

[paper sluice]

big mega hot sex

[paper sluice]

jet pack joyride ost - main theme

[spare obsidian]

the funny thing is, in the current version of TF2the particles do works....
...only in one micro frame lol

[radiant merlin]

this texture was NICE

better than what we have now

[spare obsidian]

hey ashe how did you make a steam workshop submission?

[radiant merlin]

the workshop button at the bottom of the main menu

[radiant merlin]

bot hosters cooking something

[paper sluice]

my bad guys.

[cursive peak]

Summer sale. Everyone buys new games and then just boots up TF2 instead of playing their new game.

[grim parcel]

your aws bill is going to be crazy bro

[spare obsidian]

does it acept everything? lol

[radiant merlin]

yes

just upload it as a txt file, not .cpp

oh you need to compress it first

[spare obsidian]

does .patch files work?

btw does this tumbail looks good? @radiant merlin

[formal dew]

What did you port with regards to the weather particles again

[radiant merlin]

tf is a patch file?

[radiant merlin]

clean

[spare obsidian]

basically in L4D1 and towards they added support for func_precipitation where you could use particles

has an extra effect

also i can add multiple images to the workshop?

[spare obsidian]

a .patch file is used on subversion enviroments for easy merge

hey @left sand do you mind being credited on my workshop submissions?

[left sand]

@spare obsidian yes a lot

i do not want to be associated

in fact, i would really appreciate no connection at all to my github project at all

and i would honestly prefer it not be published to begin with

[spare obsidian]

the workshop submission?

@left sand

well in that case i have removed the repo still gonna continue this

back on track, for the next volume i would focus on MVM or at least try to

[spare obsidian]

@formal dew how many typos does the tf2 localization files has? lol

[formal dew]

Idk

I tried twice to remake the pirate localization but failed

[spare obsidian]

why that even exist? lmfao

[formal dew]

iirc it was a training thing for localizers

[spare obsidian]

i see lol

so that's what's so special about?

[orchid sorrel]

i think it was just some funny thing people on the old steam translation server did

[spare obsidian]

that should have been a funny Easter egg for April fools lol

[kind falcon]

what

[slender nexus]

Bot hosters cookin meth

[kind falcon]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/995029320093409350/1089433027622486026/caption-1-1.gif

[spare obsidian]

@formal dew @radiant merlin my submission was release 👏

[formal dew]

nice job

[radiant merlin]

i can't see it

[spare obsidian]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2997356338

[radiant merlin]

did you submitted your tax info?

[spare obsidian]

uhhhh

let me do that rq lol

[radiant merlin]

i think you don't need to do that for valve to see it but

i did it anyways

[spare obsidian]

well since i don't have a credit card i don't need to fill this up lol

[small siren]

*well since i don't have

a credit card i don't need

to fill this up lol*

- Brodspy

[spare obsidian]

who would believe that some goober myself from 2018 can hold so much information up to 2023 lol

[spare obsidian]

do i really need to fill up a bank information for a community fix? lol

[cursive peak]

How else are they supposed to give you your cocaine money?

[spare obsidian]

bruh its just a god damn fix lol

[cursive peak]

You don't want the multibillion dollar company paying you for work?

[spare obsidian]

no.

even if i want there's a lot of legal issues that could come

[formal dew]

tmk you dont need to provide tax info unless you make more than 10,000 usd a year in workshop money

[kind falcon]

why upload then

explode!

[spare obsidian]

"muh why u do this if u don't want buh buh" brainlet mentality

i did it because i want a fair vote on my shit

[kind falcon]

i am a brainlet

[spare obsidian]

i don't upload for free moneyzzzz

besides, i'm not a ideas guy that bothers the poor soul over the github issues

[formal dew]

I just remembered

yknow how modern games have resolution scale as a performance option, source has that too but apparently it doesnt actually benefit perf in tf2

[wild grove]

You don't get money for community fixes, just credit in the patch notes.