💬〡general-off-topic

[sleek lotus]

o yea i can't send gifs yet

[daring sail]

wait wat

[hollow marsh]

Hello

This server is peaceful atleast better than other servers

[zealous tendon]

psylocke or luna snow

[tardy bobcat]

Did y'all see the new tame Impala song

[sleek lotus]

hiii

:3

[ancient thunder]

hi french ppl, my dad brought an souvenir from paris..oui ouiii baguette

[bright wind]

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[cursive dock]

Morning coffee>>>>>>>>

[ruby barn]

I just defeated magnus!!

In bullet

[burnt parrot]

guy's wat do u think who like my comment

[primal fern]

cool what is your username?

[sleek lotus]

dayum

[cursive dock]

Perfect for summer frfr

[sleek lotus]

Ohh it's iced?

[cursive dock]

Yeah

[sleek lotus]

wow

i love iced covfefe

Driving in my car right after a beet

[fossil epoch]

Who's gonna tell him

[heady python]

true

[grim edge]

my playlist rn because of what happened yesterday
https://youtu.be/vYW-SVNTEIw?si=P5tAuBLRJjTK0v8P

and this
https://youtu.be/JBpp6Scv5LM?si=a3MGCwBm6LGdWgHd

[olive cradle]

Vegeta

[grim edge]

also this https://youtu.be/93F29FCAQtA?si=La2Y9DstEZDtr7RI

AHHHHH

https://tenor.com/view/haechan-127hivemind-alpha-wolf-nct-nct-haechan-gif-26541424

[signal turtle]

Anyone here play

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[sharp echo]

were gender wars made to colonize the other gender

[fossil sapphire]

looking for someone to start a chess discord server with, dm me

[wispy ruin]

play me😔

[hardy cloud]

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[unreal path]

go for a run or smt 😭

[peak fog]

Slaughterhouse is such a banger of a level

Also the song is fire

[signal turtle]

The song is not fire

[peak fog]

:/

[signal turtle]

Beat slh rn

[peak fog]

Bro I'm at 85% at my first insane

Hell nah

[grim edge]

Aaaaah haaaa

[grim edge]

im just trolling

[unreal path]

just go for a run thats how ill try to get out of listining to some shit music 😭

[grim edge]

im currently listening to https://youtu.be/NmEyGiaqm7k?si=1asvjyRdCu44MuIA

https://tenor.com/view/bae-nmixx-alpha-wolf-revoloowij-gif-9813493927338843997

[near walrus]

what happened

[grim edge]

im just trolling dont mind it

[near walrus]

oh i see

[unreal path]

ok?

[grim edge]

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[latent matrix]

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[dusk valley]

Btw anyone who wants to play coded among us

Dm me privatelg if yall want to

[latent matrix]

what is coded among us

[dusk valley]

Among us with new roles

[latent matrix]

It's just among us

I dmed you

[dusk valley]

Anyone up for among us

[mossy compass]

Hell na

This is for chess

The discord

[mortal lion]

hi

[quaint marsh]

🐧

[quaint marsh]

That's a puzzle , how many penguins you see??

[sullen light]

Hello chat

[sullen light]

1

[quaint marsh]

Wrong!!

What if i dm you word "penguin" instead of crab?

Crabs are tasty but expensive

[latent matrix]

Ye, you prefer baby penguins or already adult penguins meat?

[upbeat viper]

@novel moat

[grim edge]

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[hoary drift]

Hai

[feral pendant]

Sup

Sup

Sup

[plucky viper]

oh yeah metamorphosis kafka and ovid, most of virgil's works, tacitus counts as well surely @halcyon kraken

i'm sending it here bc can't have another tiem out

[halcyon kraken]

I'm thinking of getting into kafka

Been wanting to be a bug all my life

🥀

[plucky viper]

eh

kafka is cool

[halcyon kraken]

I've heard sm abt thay book, all that's left if for me to read it

[plucky viper]

don't get me wrong, but there are better books to read

[halcyon kraken]

Fairz

[plucky viper]

also metamorphosis is really underwhelming if you've heard so much about it the first time you read it

it's a book you really gotta read multiple times to appreciate

[halcyon kraken]

I like books like that gng

[plucky viper]

have you read old man and the sea

[halcyon kraken]

Not yet no

[plucky viper]

honestly it rivals kafka

might even say it's a bit better

[halcyon kraken]

Well ig I'm adding it to the reading list

[plucky viper]

the way it holds such a simple plotline so elegantly for 100 pages

[plucky viper]

you should defo add camus to that list as well

[halcyon kraken]

Book advice in a chess.com server

2025 is a wonder

[plucky viper]

i'm sorry i have class

not as in school but as in

classy

[halcyon kraken]

Yea , this is on online server you're not allowed to have culture

[plucky viper]

exactly

[halcyon kraken]

Wheres the AI brainrot memes

[plucky viper]

flowers for algernon is also a great read

[halcyon kraken]

Jokes aside thanks for the recs gang

[plucky viper]

no worries man, happy to share my passion for great literature

and hey if you're really up for the challenge, try ulysses, but don't be surprised if you give up after 10 pages the first time around

postmodernistic literature is weird

[halcyon kraken]

I'll try to get to 11🙏

[feral pendant]

Sup

Sup

Sup

[marble snow]

Ur actually crazy for not using general

[golden lily]

How many countries my grandma knos in africa in January 2025 VS August 2025

[pulsar delta]

I have it’s decent

[golden lily]

also yes the seas are colored but i dont care enough to color them

[plucky viper]

decent? gang it's literally part of the american canon

[pulsar delta]

Uhhh yeah all of Hemingway is

[plucky viper]

definitely not all of hemingway

he has written some pieces of thrash as well

[pulsar delta]

Have u read hills like white elephants

[marble snow]

Ive read it in 7th grade

[plucky viper]

why am i listening to bastman, the frenchman will surrender before our battle is fought, like any true frenchman

[pulsar delta]

That’s a good Hemingway book that goes forlorn

[marble snow]

„I had no intentions of being in your office 20 minutes ago” ahh

[plucky viper]

not yet

[pulsar delta]

My ap lit teacher made us read it without knowing the contdxt

[plucky viper]

i'll get to it, gotta get through ulysses first

[pulsar delta]

And I genuinely couldn’t guess

[plucky viper]

which i'm not looking forward to

[pulsar delta]

Why read books u don’t like

[plucky viper]

i am looking forward to it but i'd rather read it if i have a few weeks of actual vacation

it's not a book you can easily read

[pulsar delta]

Ik Ulysses was stupid

[plucky viper]

postmodern literature, as you know, is very weird and especially james joyce

[plucky viper]

since i've been so busy with school i'm mostly reading thinner classics

[pulsar delta]

I also fail to see how Homer is postmodern

[plucky viper]

homer is not postmodern

anything but postmodern

[pulsar delta]

Yea ancient

[plucky viper]

ye

[pulsar delta]

Idk what postmodern book ur talking ab then

[plucky viper]

to the lighthouse and ulysses

[pulsar delta]

Uhhh I haven’t read much but I like Dostoyevsky I like Vonnegut I like Camus I like Sartre I’ve read a lot of great American classics as well

[plucky viper]

you would love the book germinal if you like dostoyevsky

it's french naturalism instead of russian realism but it's still quite similar as far as literary movements go

also freule julie

[plucky viper]

check out kierkegaard as well, it seems you're quite interested in existentialism

[pulsar delta]

Talking forever and lots of hard to memorize names?

[feral pendant]

1v1 anyone?

[pulsar delta]

Kierkegaard is dtupid I am interested in existentialism

[plucky viper]

not like that

but yes

[pulsar delta]

Rambling is Dostoevsky premium

[plucky viper]

emile zola was quite an interesting figure tho

only french man i respect

well no albert camus but he was algerian

[pulsar delta]

They have good artists and writers and beautiful language

Camus was a French author

[plucky viper]

born in algeria

iirc

[pulsar delta]

Yeah but his books are supported by the language french

[plucky viper]

what language do you think people speak in algeria

[feral pendant]

Bruh

[pulsar delta]

Arabic

[plucky viper]

also french

[pulsar delta]

I mean to say it more as the importance of his work is highlighted in the monotone work of the stranger specifically as his most popular the first page is famously untranslated to correction but also in short stories like L’Hote which is about a hotel and L’Hote means “the visitor” and “the guest” (two ppl talking)

[golden lily]

what do yall think

[plucky viper]

yeah i mean the stranger might be his most popular but ngl i found the plague to be a bit better

[pulsar delta]

It was okay

[plucky viper]

however nothing will be as iconic as that first sentence of the stranger

[pulsar delta]

The stranger seems fuller in terms of raw natural illusion

Like the sun on the beach being too bright

Why does that matter just shoot the dude you don’t care about anything who cares if the sun is too bright

The plague was good but I found the first 50 or so pages to be making visits like normal

[feral pendant]

About?

[pulsar delta]

Which bores me a bit

[plucky viper]

yeah i get what you mean

[pulsar delta]

I know in literature how it’s supposed to build up but damn

[plucky viper]

it's a slower start defo

[plucky viper]

yeah you should NEVER read moby dick

you wouldn't enjoy it one bit

[pulsar delta]

I liked moby dick

[plucky viper]

so you didn't think moby dick was too slow of a burn but the plague is?

[pulsar delta]

I read it young but the difference is in his chase for the whale just like The Old Man and the Sea is powered by the natural function of human willingness and desire more than a doctor taking notes

[plucky viper]

fair enough

well yeah that's very fair actually

[pulsar delta]

I’ve read a decent bit and ones like Grapes of Wrath kinda do it a lot

It’s not necessarily bad but when there’s no drive I get bored reading

[plucky viper]

though i really liked camus' exploration of humanity and the absurd more in the plague

but eh everyone likes different thigns

[pulsar delta]

Yeah

I guess I liked the intrinsic nature of the stranger a lot more

Very intrinsic guy

[feral pendant]

Hmm yall seems to know about books

Seems very smart

[pulsar delta]

I genuinely enjoy reading them

[plucky viper]

gang i studied literature and linguistics what did you expect

[feral pendant]

At Uni?

[plucky viper]

ye

[feral pendant]

Bruh ok then tell me smthing to hop on
Im a beginner though

[pulsar delta]

Breakfast of champions by Vonnegut and ESPECIALLY curious incident of a dog in nighttime (written by autistic man, books mc is autistic) are books id recommend to any man

[plucky viper]

well what kind of books have you read before and liked

[plucky viper]

flowers for algernon as well!

[feral pendant]

Lets just say ive never liked a book that i read

[pulsar delta]

Try animal farm by George Orwell

[feral pendant]

Bruh

[pulsar delta]

What

[feral pendant]

Ok ok

[pulsar delta]

It’s a great shorter book that’s very visual and has a lot of underlying themes

It’s probably the most I’ve been able to visualize a book while reading ever

[plucky viper]

i had that with old man and the sea

[feral pendant]

Dude DM me all your suggestions

Finna start reading cuh

[pulsar delta]

Imagining that must have felt like og sky block before cell phones existed

[plucky viper]

bro i'm not gonna lie, you should find out what books you like on your own, don't read classics because they're classics

[feral pendant]

Aaah ive read i have no mouth and i must scream
Kinda liked it but it was un polished it seems

[pulsar delta]

Idk just above all search up great classic literature and find one that genuinely interests you

[feral pendant]

Ye tried harry potter not bad either

[plucky viper]

harry potter is NOT a classic

[pulsar delta]

Ehhhh

[plucky viper]

if you question me further i will go on rant

[feral pendant]

Just joking

[pulsar delta]

Book about magic

Name a more classic book about magic

[plucky viper]

lord of the rings

gothic novels in general

[pulsar delta]

Equal

Harry Potter might even do better sales wise

[plucky viper]

0/10 ragebait

[plucky viper]

quality of writing matters more than sales

[pulsar delta]

But compared to gothic stuff like necromancer harry potter is definitely la magica clasico

[feral pendant]

It was more fantasy ngl

[pulsar delta]

Quality of writing furthers sales

I would’ve said Willy wonka next

[plucky viper]

have you heard about colleen hoover?

[pulsar delta]

Yep but what I said isn’t wrong

There can be bad stuff with lots of sales and good stuff with no sales that’s called relativism

Harry Potter is the relative magic book

[feral pendant]

Actually you can if it’s direct at a different viewership

[pulsar delta]

But it’s still relativism because of how both parties try to go about it

What’s his name James Patterson everyone knew that dude didn’t write his own books

[plucky viper]

1. harry potter is not in any literary canon, except maybe children's/ young adult.
2. classics are quality books, harry potter is not a quality book, quite shit actually.

[feral pendant]

So dr. Sues might be a better writer than both of them under your logic of sales

[plucky viper]

batter you're a smart guy but you're making my brain hurt with this take

[fleet scroll]

I remember liking eragon

[pulsar delta]

Fantasy and New York Times best book sellers seem to further my opinion well

I think it’s engrained in culture but classic may be the wrong word

[feral pendant]

What i was gonna say was the younger the audience the less you need to highlight
You just need a hook and youll get sales ex dr.sues uses rhymes

Bruh i cant explain it English aint my first language

Dude your still typing

[fleet scroll]

I’ve been reading my entire life and I’ve only just recently spent the time to find what my favorite genre is

[plucky viper]

you have now triggered the rant on why harry potter was never good, first of all, the worldbuilding sucks balls and more in comparison to lord of the rings, the only part of that world which was planned from the beginning was hogwarts, all the other stuff was made up at a later date, which is not inherently a bad thing but it is a bad thing when it is so obvious. The characters are written very lazily, they have barely any complexity or emotional depth, don't get me started on the lack of emotional arc. The only real reason it lived on is because jk rowling is such a shit writer everything became open to interpretation and people started making headcannons and fanfics, that's a sign your book is shit. Furthermore, it promotes harmful stereotypes and jk didn't even try to hide it, she is so blatant with her antisemetic views when portraying jews as goblins it ain't even funny anymore. and if all that wasn't bad enough, there is little to no real diversity in the story, i'm not saying every story needs diversity but if you're gonna write an asian character into the story couldn't you at least make her name something different than CHO GOD DAMN CHANG

[pulsar delta]

I don’t think it’s well written I just don’t think u could name a more canon book for wizardry and magic

[feral pendant]

Sad lil boi

[plucky viper]

bro the witch hammer

tbh

[pulsar delta]

More relevant than Harry Potter?

[plucky viper]

infinitely more so

[pulsar delta]

Never heard of it

[feral pendant]

Ye i dont know that soo it proves the other guys point

[plucky viper]

gang just bc you don't know something doesn't mean it wasn't very important at some point in history

[feral pendant]

True

[pulsar delta]

Yea but I think u could contribute more of it towards Macbeth than the witch hammer

Or the wizard of oz

[plucky viper]

magic doesn't have to be 'look at me casting a spell' most gothic novels embrace some type of magic, well at least a supernatural power

it's kinda a prerequesite

[pulsar delta]

I’m talking about cultural relevancy doe

[plucky viper]

wait i didn't spell that right

i think

[plucky viper]

are you trying to say frankenstein hasn't had more cultural relevancy than harry potter?

[fleet scroll]

Journey to the West has the most cultural influence

[pulsar delta]

Yea but that’s science not magic

[plucky viper]

bro h.p. don't look up his cat's name lovecraft has had more relevancy

[plucky viper]

it's about the supernatural, same thing as harry potter

[pulsar delta]

The holy Bibble

[plucky viper]

well yeah that depends on if you're atheist or not

[pulsar delta]

Chaaaat why tf is the donkey talking to the man ab an Angel on the road

I’m just nitpicking

No I think out of all magic relevancy u gotta look more towards fantasy and not gothic

[fleet scroll]

Most popular work of fiction ever sold

[pulsar delta]

Depends on how u read it

[fleet scroll]

Hm?

[pulsar delta]

Cuz if you believe it then it’s real to you

Thinkkk about it

[plucky viper]

harry potter is more closely related to horror than fantasy if you're looking at specific genre requirements

[fleet scroll]

I’d rather not believe in the angry sky person that commands multiple genocides and hates women and gay people

[pulsar delta]

Boyyy and lovecraft and Frankenstein are more magic relatd

[pulsar delta]

Ehhh he only commands genocides the rest he accepts as his own creation

[plucky viper]

boy it's about the supernatural, magic is too niche

[fleet scroll]

[plucky viper]

and again, lotr would be much higher on the list

[pulsar delta]

Ok then rank them in terms of most horrifying greatest to least if ur point is HP is a horror book

[pulsar delta]

Can’t sugarcoat it he killed first born animals of villages in Egypt. Wtf did the animals do they can’t sin and plus all they did was be born first

[fleet scroll]

Read numbers 31

[plucky viper]

my point isn't that harry potter is a horror book, my point is that harry potter shouldn't be considered a classic on account of it sucking

[pulsar delta]

I asked my rly Christian ex that as a Christian because I was genuinely curious and we got in an argument

[pulsar delta]

I assume it’s the war on sodom

[fleet scroll]

Tells moses to kill all the women and boys, and “keep every girl that has not known man by sleeping with him for yourselves”

[fleet scroll]

The genocide of the midianites

[pulsar delta]

Well think about it from a historical standpoint

[plucky viper]

the bible do be kinda funny tho

[pulsar delta]

I don’t agree with genocide of gays but you have to view it as such

[plucky viper]

the amount of misstranslations is crazy

[fleet scroll]

Their morality is shit and their book shouldn’t be used as a guide for morality

[pulsar delta]

Also u have to understand

[plucky viper]

you shouldn't need eternal punishment hanging over your head like the sword of damokles to be a good person in the first place

[pulsar delta]

Moses wrote most of the Old Testament and the Old Testament is generally disregarded as purely laughable at some parts in the Bible

[fleet scroll]

There’s no evidence moses even existed

[pulsar delta]

If u disobey ur parents you should be cast into the middle of town and thrown rocks at

[pulsar delta]

Who wrote the Old Testament then

Paupers?

[fleet scroll]

We don’t know who wrote any of it

All of the authors are anonymous

[pulsar delta]

I’m sure u don’t know much cuz that’s not true

[plucky viper]

how tf did moses spend 40 years in that desert

it ain't that big

[fleet scroll]

Ok. Which books have known authors, and how can you demonstrate authorship?

[pulsar delta]

There wasn’t shit else to do bro

[plucky viper]

oh he's almost at the same point alexandrian scholar's were at discussing Homeros

[pulsar delta]

The Torah was written by moses and changed over time by different translations

[plucky viper]

could've gone and made some more commandments

[pulsar delta]

Where am I wrong here

[pulsar delta]

There was way more than ten bro

[plucky viper]

yeah bro so like why are there only 10 now

[fleet scroll]

There isn’t any evidence that moses existed

[pulsar delta]

Cuz the Old Testament is irrelevant

[pulsar delta]

There isn’t any evidence dinosaurs existed and weren’t just big birds and animals instead of reptiles

[plucky viper]

both are the word of god, can't disregard half of it

[fleet scroll]

We have fossils…

[pulsar delta]

We have Moses

[plucky viper]

bro is succesfully ragebaiting me so well

[fleet scroll]

Yeah he is just ragebaiting

[pulsar delta]

Uhhhh are u christian

[fleet scroll]

I don’t think it’s possible for a human being to actually be that stupid, so I just have to assume it’s for the memes

[plucky viper]

not anymore, i don't want my life to be dictated by some insecure virgin rapist

[pulsar delta]

I just think ur ignorant towards what im trying to convey to u cuz ur a dumb annoying atheist

[plucky viper]

no no batter is quite smart

[pulsar delta]

What tha hell Bible did u read

[plucky viper]

same shit you did

[fleet scroll]

Didn’t he forcibly impregnate mary

[plucky viper]

alright let me edit my message

[pulsar delta]

Ion even go to church

[fleet scroll]

[fleet scroll]

The road to atheism is littered with bibles read cover to cover

[pulsar delta]

How would that work

[fleet scroll]

Idk, I think it’s all fiction

[plucky viper]

bro has such a huge stick in his ass i'm pretty sure it's not possible he's had sex

[fleet scroll]

I don’t have to justify it. It’s just a story

[pulsar delta]

I doubt u have

But I agree it’s not all nonfiction

[fleet scroll]

There is virtually zero non-fiction

Other than “hey this place existed”

[pulsar delta]

There’s a lot of nonfiction especially in the New Testament again you just don’t understand that cuz ur ignorant

The Old Testament is where u have the fables

Like what Jonah being in a whales stomach for days

[fleet scroll]

Skull emoji

[pulsar delta]

I’m literally correct

[fleet scroll]

Who was at the tomb when it opened?

[pulsar delta]

Roman soldiers

They reported it did u read the Bible or are u just being ignorant again

[fleet scroll]

That’s not the answer in any of the gospels

[plucky viper]

like what, jesus waking up from his 3 day heaven bender just to do an irish goodbye?

[fleet scroll]

He was just committing life insurance fraud

[plucky viper]

bro knows so much about literature yet doesn't know what an unreliable narrator is

[pulsar delta]

3 day heaven bender just to do an Irish goodbye

IM SPEAKING WITH PPL WHO DONT KNOW MARY MAGDELINE

ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[plucky viper]

can't use the bible to verify the bible, that's just circular reasoning

[plucky viper]

gang ofc i know her, i watched the da vinci code

[fleet scroll]

But if you take away circular reasoning, they don’t have anything left :(

[pulsar delta]

What else u want me to use gang mary Magdalene was like one of the only real close associates of Jesus Christ

[plucky viper]

is there any historical record besides the bible

[pulsar delta]

Alr said I don’t think all of the Bible is nonfiction but a lot of is even irrelevant to what is taught now to a point where u can read it and understand the underlying concepts

It’s very self referential

[pulsar delta]

Of Christianity?

[fleet scroll]

Yes

[pulsar delta]

Pretty sure it’s one of the most historically recorded ever

Of any history

[plucky viper]

nah bro, mary magdalene, jesus, all that jazz

[fleet scroll]

So did the romans have records of this stuff?

[plucky viper]

which comes in very handy when you gotta use the book to verify the book

[pulsar delta]

Yes

[fleet scroll]

Oh neat. Like what?

[pulsar delta]

Even in Muslim teachings they consider Jesus Christ a scholar and believe he will come back to earth for the rapture

A lot happens when u give up ignorance i promise but tactius and josephus for Roman scholars mentioning Jesus

[fleet scroll]

Why do I care if one cult believes in parts of another cult

[plucky viper]

actually they did keep records

but many have been lost to time

[pulsar delta]

Probably because it’s two entirely different civilizations

Are u an idiot

[plucky viper]

both are abrahamic religions bro

they basically believe the same shit

[pulsar delta]

That’s not what I said

[plucky viper]

doesn't make it less true

[pulsar delta]

And that’s not what abrahamic religions believe in it’s the Old Testament

Jews are abrahamic and don’t believe in the New Testament

[plucky viper]

which is also not my point?

[fleet scroll]

Wasn’t tacitus born after all the events of the bible

[plucky viper]

yes

[fleet scroll]

Josephus was also not a contemporary

[pulsar delta]

Bruh they’re early Roman scholars

Do u not understand history or do u just search everything up

[plucky viper]

early roman scholars?

that's not early by any means

[pulsar delta]

Well I mean

[fleet scroll]

Neither of them were alive when jesus was supposed to be around

[pulsar delta]

Compared right to the death of Jesus Christ???

[fleet scroll]

So i don’t really care what they said

[pulsar delta]

Ya I can’t help u ur an idiot

But im willing to debate it with u

[plucky viper]

gang it's fine you don't have to continue ragebaiting

[fleet scroll]

I think he’s stuck

[pulsar delta]

This makes most human history inaccurate

Is my point

[fleet scroll]

A huge portion of human history IS inaccurate

[plucky viper]

i'm not willing to debate someone who thinks circular reasoning is a valid argument

[pulsar delta]

Bro

[plucky viper]

yes and no

[pulsar delta]

Let me get on my computer

[plucky viper]

bro it's 2 am, i have exams in 11 days i don't have more time for ts today imma go to bed

[pulsar delta]

Look bud historical documentation from thousands of years ago from multiple civilizations and independent sources is enough in most common history to believe that the "circular reasoning" argument is silly

i can self referentiate the bible cause yall cant prove it didnt happen either

[plucky viper]

which is another fallacy, WOW

[pulsar delta]

This is an argument of faith used by Christians but the way yall are slowly not understanding and purposely ignoring stuff makes me thik that you dont see it how i do

[plucky viper]

i wish you good luck boring endgame grinder

[fleet scroll]

There’s a teapot in space between the earth and the sun too small to be seen by telescopes. It exists because you can’t prove it doesn’t

[pulsar delta]

well theres more proof than u the discord user has to show me

[pulsar delta]

Really

[fleet scroll]

Yep

[pulsar delta]

Who made the teapot

[fleet scroll]

Russell

[plucky viper]

blud you're the only one using logical fallacies over here

[pulsar delta]

How did he know what tea was

[plucky viper]

is bro making the tomas of aquinas argument

that's just sad

[pulsar delta]

Bruh yall are using dumb reasoning

what do you want to talk about

[fleet scroll]

“My apologetics aren’t working so I have to call it dumb”

[plucky viper]

at least we're not using fallacies

[pulsar delta]

these are answers to ur apolegetics

[plucky viper]

that's you and only you bucko

[fleet scroll]

Evidence that moses existed

Do you have any?

[pulsar delta]

historic scholars and articles

[plucky viper]

besides the bible, or any other dogmatic documents

[plucky viper]

which ones

[fleet scroll]

I’m happy to read some

[pulsar delta]

well i cant say the main one

which makes it a little hard but ill GOOGLE some of the other ones

[fleet scroll]

The bible is the claim, not the evidence

[plucky viper]

because that would be circular reasoning

[pulsar delta]

just so i can be on yalls level and make yall happy

wb muslim ppl believing in jesus

u said it was because they were abrahamic but u clearly didnt know what u were talking about

[fleet scroll]

They also believe the moon was split in half. Not interested

[pulsar delta]

settle that one over while i google

[plucky viper]

they believe in essentialy the same god christians do

[pulsar delta]

not jesus

God had been around for years before Jesus by then

[fleet scroll]

I wonder if jesus was a furry

[pulsar delta]

prolly

[fleet scroll]

What would his fursona be?

[plucky viper]

you just know he liked it dirty

[pulsar delta]

probably a lamb

? okay now thats just like ignorant to the top level

[plucky viper]

or a fish

[pulsar delta]

that shows ur not interested in reasoning just being weird

[plucky viper]

that's just like a joke

[pulsar delta]

OK i cant help what you think of when u hear the word furries i guess

but i can help u understand other stuff

[plucky viper]

how you look whenever you use circular reasoning, and then try to justify said circular reasoning

[plucky viper]

go on boy, find us proof moses existed

[pulsar delta]

Explain how regionally different Asians would've known Christ

[fleet scroll]

Missionaries and genocide

[plucky viper]

silk road, word travels fast

[pulsar delta]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historicity_of_Jesus bang i can google like yall now

[fleet scroll]

We’re looking for evidence of moses, not jesus

[plucky viper]

we didn't ask for jesus, we asked for moses

[pulsar delta]

argument debunked except not really because it will still be vague and up to interpretation like most religion

[plucky viper]

yeah almost as if you're not supposed to be able to prove it because that kinda defeats the point of faith

[golden lily]

who is smarter then my grandma

[pulsar delta]

Well the first thing i thought is who wouldve written the torah instead of Moses

[plucky viper]

wow who knew

[pulsar delta]

yea durr but i dont have to act ignorant about whats in it

[plucky viper]

wait until bro finds out homer might've not written the odyssey and illiad

[fleet scroll]

Literally anyone

[pulsar delta]

Then wouldnt they just be who moses was

[fleet scroll]

HAHAHAHAHA

[plucky viper]

if moses only serves the function of being the one who wrote it, yes, someone else having written it does not equate to them doing the same shi moses did

[fleet scroll]

S+ tier ragebait

[plucky viper]

you can't honestly believe bro wandered around a relatively small desert for like 40 years, split a sea in half and talked to a burning bush

if i would say i did that

you'd call me crazy

[pulsar delta]

well idk who wouldve freed israelites from slavery but im sure he didnt hit a rock twice and water flowed out

i would leave that kind of stuff to maybe delirium

[fleet scroll]

They were never enslaved by egyptians

[plucky viper]

so he is fallable, so he is an unreliable narrator

damn, crazy

so not only is it very likely he didn't exist in the first place but if he did he wouldn't be reliable

[pulsar delta]

Yea and u believed in the talking snake?

I think that theres more to it than fables

[plucky viper]

no but i'm not taking the position of pro christian here

[fleet scroll]

It’s more realistic than making a blind person able to see by putting mud on his eyes

[pulsar delta]

I think its lined with fables in extent of mostly the old testament which is what Moses wrote and is innacurate and older and hwat u guys are talking about

[plucky viper]

gang the new testament ain't much better

[pulsar delta]

Do you believe in miraclessssss

[fleet scroll]

Absolutely not

[pulsar delta]

where you from

[fleet scroll]

Miracles magically stopped happening around the same time cameras were invented

[pulsar delta]

its a song jesus performed miracles idk if he actually did thats part of faith

[fleet scroll]

“Let me believe a bunch of unsubstantiated garbage because people told me to”

[pulsar delta]

how am i supposed to tell it to you most of those stories are innacurate and he also rid people of demons which was just disease

[pulsar delta]

Well i can believe in the gospel and interpret the bible how i want no?

[plucky viper]

you can believe it, but you shouldn't state it as being a fact

[fleet scroll]

What’s your methodology for determining what’s true vs what’s a fable?

[plucky viper]

only to use the bible to prove your point

[pulsar delta]

I never stated it as fact really you guys are just being ignorant

im using the bible to make points about christianity

[pulsar delta]

whats yours

[plucky viper]

bro thinks he's socrates, we have no use for your bullshittery and with this last message i bid ye gentlemen goodnight

[pulsar delta]

logic heh.

[fleet scroll]

I am not claiming anything in the bible is true. I don’t need one

[fleet scroll]

If you’re done, I’m also leaving. Adios

[pulsar delta]

reddit asf

[fleet scroll]

You should google what an argument from ignorance is btw

[pulsar delta]

I believe in things I can make educated opinions about

So can u i dont have to agree with urs u dont have to agree with mine

im just talking to you about mine and yall are being reddit armchair doctors

[plucky viper]

if it has supernatural bs, it's probably a fable, if it doesn't and it's well documented like hm for example, pompei, it may just be true

[fleet scroll]

My beliefs aren’t being used to strip civil rights in the US

[pulsar delta]

Im not a republican tho

I dont agree with that stuff

Lol

[plucky viper]

if i were to ask you if you believe in god, would you answer my question with the question 'what do you mean believe'

because you're sounding like jordan peterson rn

[pulsar delta]

Ughhhh prometheus was cast into the bowels of earth to have his liver pecked at by a raven tho

theres no other way i could possibly interpret what happened there

[plucky viper]

he wasn't cast into the bowels, he was in the caucasus mountains

[pulsar delta]

I believe in God because of intelligent design

[fleet scroll]

More ragebait

[pulsar delta]

?

How should childbirth be mathematically possible

[fleet scroll]

What have you looked at that isn’t designed to be able to detect design?

[plucky viper]

his design was so intelligent he made sure to let us know taking it up the bum is okay as he put our g-spots there

[pulsar delta]

without intellegent design how do ur eyes work with just cellular reproduction

[pulsar delta]

u can do whatever man i think thats just biology tho

[pulsar delta]

rephrase too needlessly complicated

looked at that isn’t designed to be able to detect design?

[pulsar delta]

i asked u just to rephrase it plz

i promise i can understand what ur talking about u just said that particular sentence in a stupid ass way

[fleet scroll]

Ok. How do you know things were designed?

[pulsar delta]

i have them

[fleet scroll]

Inb4 “irreducible complexity, like the human eye”

[plucky viper]

i hope that when i die, god does exist, so i could at least be in hell knowing i didn't bow down to the guy who invented a god complex

[pulsar delta]

next question

[fleet scroll]

Something existing is not evidence it was designed

[pulsar delta]

thats not what a god complex is

[pulsar delta]

why not

[plucky viper]

i believe it is tho, that should be valid enough

[pulsar delta]

how else did it get there what function does it serve thats things i think about when i think about things

[pulsar delta]

hasnt stopped u before

[fleet scroll]

Let me put it this way. We go outside and look at a tree. You say “this is designed”
I say “no it isn’t”

How do we resolve this?

[pulsar delta]

seed

[fleet scroll]

?

[plucky viper]

okay but if everything is designed, who designed god

[pulsar delta]

who put seeds on earth to make trees

[fleet scroll]

Your mom

[plucky viper]

so that means i'm god?

[pulsar delta]

we have no proof we exist except for the fact me and you are conscious and can speak to each other

[fleet scroll]

There’s no evidence anyone put seeds on earth, unless you’re talking about who planted the tree

Which is usually another tree

[pulsar delta]

how the first tree get there

seeds?

[plucky viper]

that's not true, you should really read something else besides existentialsm

[pulsar delta]

if so what produced seeds

[fleet scroll]

A slightly different plant before it

[pulsar delta]

i mean its another athiest reasoning u should probably know

[pulsar delta]

howd that plant get there

[fleet scroll]

The plant before it

[pulsar delta]

what plant how can u prove to me those plants existed

what was the first plant to make seeds

[fleet scroll]

Pause: my answer to this question doesn’t make a difference

[pulsar delta]

im just using ur logic

answer plz or ur wrong immediately

how did the first plant get there with no seeds

[plucky viper]

if his design is so intelligent, why do we have tailbones but no tail, why are our backs so criminally badly designed, why do we have wisdom teeth that need to be removed because our mouths have become smaller, why is there a tendon in our hand we never use, why are all of these things disappearing in people

if adam and eve existed, why isn't everyone a clone of one another

[pulsar delta]

evolution

[fleet scroll]

Mitotic reproduction

[plucky viper]

why should you be able to move the goalposts this much in favour of your argument on the sole basis of getting to pick and choose what parts of the bible you believe

why should you be able to self referentiate the bible as some sort of cosmic proof but deem it to be untrustworthy the next second

[pulsar delta]

cuz i can use reasoning to determine things instead of believing whats in front of me a bit

evolution seems pretty naturalistic

idk what else to tell u

[fleet scroll]

Quick question: if you ask a question and the answer is “I don’t know,” is that evidence that your beliefs are true?

[pulsar delta]

to u it is

[fleet scroll]

Nope!

[pulsar delta]

to me it depends on the question

[fleet scroll]

It shouldn’t depend on the question

The answer is always no

[pulsar delta]

how can you prove that to me

[fleet scroll]

This is basic logic

[pulsar delta]

lol cannonball right

[fleet scroll]

Here ya go kiddo

An argument from ignorance, also known as argumentum ad ignorantiam or appeal to ignorance, is a logical fallacy where a proposition is claimed to be true because it has not been proven false, or false because it has not been proven true. It essentially argues that a lack of evidence against a claim is evidence for the claim, or that the lack of evidence for a claim is evidence against it

[pulsar delta]

i mean u can google stuff but im not believing u prob didnt even read that

how would you prove to me that the answer is always no and not i dont know

answer me and ill ask u the same question again

[fleet scroll]

The answer to this is always no

[pulsar delta]

how can u prove it to me

[fleet scroll]

Buddy have you not learned basic logic

[pulsar delta]

sure so prove it to me

[fleet scroll]

Positive assertions need to be demonstrated independently

[pulsar delta]

prove it

[fleet scroll]

😂

Alright, the rage bait is getting boring

[pulsar delta]

u can go in circles doing an i dont know contest with anyone

u couldnt prove that to me if u tried cuz i could just act ignorant about it all day and not let you

[fleet scroll]

The problem is, you’re claiming that you know things were created, and that you know specifically who created it

[pulsar delta]

i never claimed that i claimed i believe in it

[fleet scroll]

Why tf would you believe that without evidence instead of saying “i don’t know”

[pulsar delta]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligent_design

[fleet scroll]

Buddy your own link calls it pseudoscientific

[pulsar delta]

its about the existence of god

what am i supposed to be arguing with u about here

i could die tomorrow and see black for all i know doesnt change what i believe in

[fleet scroll]

I’m not interested in pseudoscience. This is useless to me

[pulsar delta]

ok well if u wanna listen to my argument instead of pretending u know what ur talking ab and using google thats a good scientific backing for an evidence of a God

that me personally a Christian would believe moreso towards in the existence of creationism and supernatural design rather than Christianity itself

It's really good stuff and the way biologists and scientists have discovered evolution they still fully havent figured it out lol

[fleet scroll]

Why believe this without evidence

[pulsar delta]

the evidence is intelligent design

[fleet scroll]

That’s the claim

Not the evidence

[pulsar delta]

uhhh

no you being able to look at your screen and process what im saying is the evidence

[fleet scroll]

There are no peer reviewed papers indicating that intelligent design is plausible

It is not scientific

[pulsar delta]

explain how cells evolved to understand this and other stuff like urinary systems

[pulsar delta]

ur body is 75% water bro and electric and maintains heat and homeostasis

lilke

if u cant understand it i just cant explain it to you

[fleet scroll]

I don’t answer fallacious requests

[pulsar delta]

cells do not know science

cells do not know how to create a urinary system from scratch because they arent conscious enough

[pulsar delta]

you couldnt ever do it and i know u couldnt

but im saying this is the claim

u dont have to be so staunch about everything man

[fleet scroll]

I’m not a biologist

[pulsar delta]

biologists havent done it

[fleet scroll]

So if biologists are able to perfectly create them in a lab, does that now mean intelligent design is false, or are you going to shift to something else we don’t know about

[pulsar delta]

create what

imagine hypothetically these hypothetical scientists created hypothetical eyeballs

they would probably use the same mirrors and cones system ur cells divised by just knowing about it somehow thousands of years ago

[fleet scroll]

Buddy I’m asking if you’re going to shift the goalposts

[pulsar delta]

im just answering ur question

[fleet scroll]

Here let me make this really easy for you

[pulsar delta]

how do your cells understand how to maintain electricity and water within the same vessel intertwined with blood a filtering system and a pure conscious brain without any intelligent design

[fleet scroll]

You: “Biologists can’t do X, so intelligent design makes the most sense to me”

Me: “If biologists are able to do X in the future, does that make intelligent design less reasonable to you?”

[pulsar delta]

thats what i dont understand cells arent that smart

[pulsar delta]

ur fading away from my argument and yours tho

[fleet scroll]

Why do you keep using the same fallacy over and over

[pulsar delta]

i alr answered ur question with the hypothetical

[pulsar delta]

cuz how are u GONNA PROVE ME WRONG BRO

im telling u what i believe in ?????

im asking you

[fleet scroll]

Me not being able to prove you wrong doesn’t make your beliefs true

[pulsar delta]

sure

but im telling u my claim and ur being annoying about it

so might as well outreason u for it

imagine hypothetically these hypothetical scientists created hypothetical eyeballs
they would probably use the same mirrors and cones system ur cells divised by just knowing about it somehow thousands of years ago

now my question is

[fleet scroll]

I’m asking how you know your beliefs are true, and you either make arguments from ignorance or from incredulity

[pulsar delta]

how do your cells understand how to maintain electricity and water within the same vessel intertwined with blood a filtering system and a pure conscious brain without any intelligent design

[pulsar delta]

im telling you i believe in God bro

[fleet scroll]

Can you rephrase this to not use an argument from incredulity

[pulsar delta]

how do your cells understand how eyeballs work before they are developed

by your cells

[fleet scroll]

Dunno

[pulsar delta]

ya exactly no one does

[fleet scroll]

I’m not claiming I do

[pulsar delta]

either theres alterior reasoning or everyone is just stupid

i choose to believe in alterior reasoning until i see that everyone is just stupid

[fleet scroll]

Why is the answer “we don’t know” insufficient

[pulsar delta]

it supports intelligent design

[fleet scroll]

It… doesn’t

[pulsar delta]

begs the question How did this come to fruition?

[fleet scroll]

We don’t know

[pulsar delta]

With cells?

How are the cells so smart to know all that

[fleet scroll]

We don’t know

[pulsar delta]

ya

[fleet scroll]

So it stays as that

[pulsar delta]

sooooo that supports my foundation of believing in god

[fleet scroll]

“We don’t know, so let me throw in magic as the most likely explanation”

[pulsar delta]

idk what the problem is here anymore

well im waiting for scientists to explain it to me and they cant and google cant explain it to you either

i just think its wayyy too complicated to be naturally occuring

like childbirth

millions of things have to go right for childbirth to happen and it does every day

[fleet scroll]

If everything can eventually be explained, will you stop believing in your god?

[pulsar delta]

Wont happen

If it did

hmmmmm idk id definitely be dead by then but if somehow they found out the million year question then i'd maybe rebuke intelligent design but i would still wonder how i was alive then

cuz they couldnt be able to prove it to me<-- (how i am made of electricity and water and blood and flesh and bones and consciousness and how my cells were smart enough to create that of themselves)

[fleet scroll]

😭

Ok. Enjoy your brainrot. Peace

[pulsar delta]

glad to be open and talk with u im sorry that u have to be so sheltered ab stuff

im a very emotional person but i hate when i try to talk intelligently and its just a dude spitting equal fallacies about RELIGION an openly debatable topic as if we both couldnt be equally wrong

the ability to not be an open person to ideas in life and rather argue towards ur insolence confuses me that is what i will leave from all this

if we both have different arguments that cant be explained towards one logical way then the only thing we can argue about is the foundation of our reasoning

my foundation of reasoning comes from life and the pursuits around the sheer complexity of it (as a healthcare professional) and urs comes from whatever google tells u i guess

[peak plank]

Burn the witch

[teal jungle]

People have been substituting God in places where there is a lack of scientific explanation for millennia

Back then it was claiming Gods existence to try to reason why seasons, stars, human life, ect exists

We now have scientific explanations for those previously unexplained phenomena but for some people the goalposts just shift to the next things we don't understand scientifically

[pulsar delta]

If it’s near impossible for cells to naturally do on their own then it makes u think if anything has to interact with the cell for it to behave this way (evolution) and if it does where does that other thing come from (origin of life)

It’s something u just can’t find out

[digital phoenix]

🦅

[teal jungle]

What do you mean by "do in their own" and what do you mean by "other thing"

This doesn't read coherently to me

[pulsar delta]

Did u read the argument? The foundation of the argument ur replying to is in the pseudoscientific concept of intelligent design as proof of God

[plucky viper]

WHY ARE PEOPLE STILL DEBATING HIM

[teal jungle]

I didn't read the whole argument no

[pulsar delta]

It’s not bad to have conversation

[plucky viper]

stfu

[teal jungle]

Is the fact that there are phenomena unexplained by science not apart of your reasoning

[pulsar delta]

I’m friends with an Arabic scholar he doesn’t listen to music because it distracts them from memorizing the quran I don’t agree with it but it interests me all day

[teal jungle]

Religion is definitely interesting

[pulsar delta]

I think human design is too intelligent to be devised by cellular organisms that don’t understand stuff like electricity as a function of neurons and cardiovascular systems and water filtering and digestion

[plucky viper]

you're the discord equivalent of colin robinson

[pulsar delta]

Cuz I talk to ppl I don’t agree with ab things in a calm manner?

Idk who Colin Robinson is

[digital phoenix]

Who dat

[plucky viper]

because you use logical fallacies the whole time, you move the goalposts at any opportunity yet you present yourself to be the wise one

[teal jungle]

So you don't think that the process evolution, without the interference of a devine being, could every produce something has complex as us, even given any amount of time

[plucky viper]

just watch what we do in the shadows

[pulsar delta]

I alr said either of us can be equally wrong

[pulsar delta]

Read this plz

[plucky viper]

gang i wasn't reading anymore atp

[pulsar delta]

I’m not arguing towards Christianity trying to get yall to convert to it im not that type of person just telling u what i know and understand and believe

[pulsar delta]

Well what caused it to happen

[teal jungle]

What causes evolution to happen?

[plucky viper]

intelligent design, according to batter

[digital phoenix]

So why do some species get discovered only recently did we just not discover it

[pulsar delta]

How do they know how to use mirrors and cones to reflect light through ur eyes so it transfers to your conscious brain

[plucky viper]

well how bout we split the difference and we agree that we're all just in a simulation

[pulsar delta]

Sure but this is 20 million years down the line or something I’m talking about origin of life

[teal jungle]

What do you mean by "they"

[digital phoenix]

Are we splitting the check

[pulsar delta]

Cellular organisms credited to the origin of life

[digital phoenix]

Cos I only ordered fries bro

[plucky viper]

tfym i didn't even order anything

[teal jungle]

To me this reads like you think the opposing position is that cellular organisms consciously created life?

[plucky viper]

i ain't paying for your fries bro

[teal jungle]

That's not what evolution is

[digital phoenix]

Ill just leave the check to one of them

[pulsar delta]

Unless we aren’t real

[plucky viper]

they won't notice us dine 'n dashing anyways, lemme order some truffle fries

[digital phoenix]

Fr

[plucky viper]

should get some caviar while we're here

[pulsar delta]

What causes an action in a barely developed cell to grow eyes and how does it understand the function of sight. U can try to answer but biologists don’t even fully rly understand the basis behind it besides saying it’s attributed to evolution like u are

[digital phoenix]

Good idea we dine like kings today

[pulsar delta]

Which can be true but how did it happen initially if humans are smartest

[plucky viper]

are you perchance a woman, australian or black

[teal jungle]

Evolution happens through mutations in offspring which cause those offspring to become more successful in surviving and breeding than the none-mutated version, eventually leading to the mutated version being more successful and taking over the population?

Where is the cellular organisms consciously deciding characteristics in that?

[pulsar delta]

Offspring

[digital phoenix]

I am not

[plucky viper]

can you pretend to be

[pulsar delta]

Who was the first parent of offspring

[digital phoenix]

Kangaroo

[plucky viper]

great

how would you feel about changing your pfp

[teal jungle]

Are you asking what the first living organism was

[digital phoenix]

Nuh uh it's my lore

[plucky viper]

i'll give you new lore

[pulsar delta]

Asking why it’s there

Let’s see the answer

[teal jungle]

It's a pretty interesting question, the general consensus is that the first life appeared deep in the ocean under very specific chemical conditions

[plucky viper]

your name is chase, you're very tall and very handsome and you always agree with @halcyon kraken

[pulsar delta]

Specific chemical conditions is very broad

Here I will assume u mean like zooplankton

[teal jungle]

Yeah because I'm not familiar with specifics to any level

[plucky viper]

gang it's already 5 am

[pulsar delta]

Well evolution is very specific

[teal jungle]

Yeah

[plucky viper]

yeah otherwise how would you get a gyarados

[pulsar delta]

When I think of something deep in water I think of no use for eyes until it swims up and no use for electricity impulses because ur tiny organisms underwater and it’ll fry u

[teal jungle]

You can like, research yourself what the academic consensus is on the specifics of the first life emerging yourself

[pulsar delta]

I have a lot and im here arguing with ppl about a question no one has ever answered correctly

[teal jungle]

Yeah it would be an incredibly simple single-cellular organism

Iirc eyes didn't evolve until significantly later on

Which started as extremely basic light-dedictors

[wispy depot]

ate thai food for the first time in a while ts was so good 🙏🏻

[teal jungle]

Then other millions of years became adapt to processing more detailed patterns of light

[pulsar delta]

I think it’s just confusing cuz zooplankton are filter feeders and stuff and would have no reason to go upwards

No species has other animals going upwards that much it messes up their atmospheric pressure really badly

[teal jungle]

I'm not taking about zooplankton necessarily

Again, we can look up what the academic consensus on the nature of the life lifeform is

I might do it now it's a pretty interesting subject

[pulsar delta]

just some unknown organism yea I know that is the basis of life on a scientific level but the reasoning for it is less than there scientifically

If not phyto or zooplankton like I said then idrk what other cells would be deep in the ocean

[teal jungle]

What do you mean by "reasoning for it"

The reason for why the lifeform emerged in the first place?

[pulsar delta]

it’s a bit contradictory to how evolution is promoted in organisms

The way it would evolve

Especially fish

[teal jungle]

What about it is contradictory

[pulsar delta]

For one organisms in water feed on the dead life or plant matter around it and it would take a miracle more than God for a zooplankton to wander up the oceans channel even enough to develop eyes as a result

It would die immediately off

[teal jungle]

Who says it was the zooplankton that developed eyes

[pulsar delta]

Well if it’s the first form of life then we had to have developed eyes or there’s more forms of life

[teal jungle]

Yeah it developed eyes at some point in it's evolutionary track

[pulsar delta]

I don’t see a reason for zooplankton to do it or even survive by trying

[teal jungle]

Iirc eyes didn't develop until organisms had progressed well beyond single cellular life

[pulsar delta]

They don’t need more food they don’t have predators they were literally bound to the floor like thousands of other organisms today

[teal jungle]

I think you need to lose this idea of zooplankton directly receiving eyes

Organisms didn't evolve eyes until they were massive

[pulsar delta]

I’m saying zooplankton don’t travel upwards at the bottom of the ocean at all

[teal jungle]

In comparison to zooplankton

[pulsar delta]

At all is hyperbole

[teal jungle]

Sure

[pulsar delta]

Thousands of yards upwards?

[teal jungle]

But it wasn't the Zooplankton that evolved eyes

[pulsar delta]

So u assume they adjusted to pressure first and then light which would make more sense but they would have no reason to care about it

[teal jungle]

Wdym by "care about it"

[pulsar delta]

Swimming upwards

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[teal jungle]

I feel like you are using God to try to explain something that you just have no researched nearly enough to know about, if you have questions about early life and evolution you can explore this topic yourself

[pulsar delta]

Lol I have

[teal jungle]

Instead of thinking "it doesn't make sense to me based on the minimal knowledge that I have prior to researching therefore God did it"

[pulsar delta]

LMFAO

[teal jungle]

But you thought zooplankton evolved eyes

[pulsar delta]

ur hilarious dude I STUDY THE HUMAN BODY!!!!

[pulsar delta]

I’m saying over the course of evolution zooplankton would stay on the dark ocean floor

[teal jungle]

Yeah I'm not taking about the human body, I'm taking about early life

[pulsar delta]

Bruh I promise you my interest in the biology of these things and life itself is insurmountable and there’s no correct answer only you acting like a reddit armchair atheist about something u can’t prove either

Scientifically it doesn’t even make sense

That’s why it stumps scientists

[teal jungle]

Do you think I'm trying to make the point that you know nothing about biology I was talking extremely specially about early life

[pulsar delta]

There’s nothing I would care more to talk to you about than the processes of human life

It’s so complex and intricate

[teal jungle]

But you didn't seem to know much about what the academic consensus is on early lifeforms, I'm just saying that many of the questions you have about early life which leads you to suppose that God must have been the explanation, could likely be answered through research

[pulsar delta]

I’m saying I know it and I’ve heard everything ur saying before and zooplankton wouldn’t swim up to the surface to develop eyes or even try to get light because they would have no use for that

[teal jungle]

If you research the subject of the very first life and still find it illogical and think that God needs to be used to justify it, then sure

[pulsar delta]

They’ve researched it for thousands of years

Idk how ur the only one who’s figured it out

[teal jungle]

When did I say I have

[pulsar delta]

Apparently im wrong so u have got it figured out

Otherwise why are u arguing like that about something u have yet to disprove

[teal jungle]

No I'm just saying that jumping to the conclusion that God did it seems premature

[pulsar delta]

I agree

Do u have a better idea

I’m not gonna disagree with the fact it’s pseudoscience but ur not gonna sit here and disprove it to me otherwise ur brains ability to see color is pseudoscience

[teal jungle]

If I say "early life was created by the Spaghetti Man because he wanted life to come about to eventually make more spaghetti, and he used spaghetti-magic to conjure up single cellular lifeforms, you would also probably disagree"

[pulsar delta]

Scientists don’t even know how ur body correctly feels pain

[teal jungle]

I'm not trying to disprove it, I'm agnostic not atheist

But it has not yet been proven to me

[pulsar delta]

I’m not arguing for Christianity just a creator

This is an agnostic view of a christian I said that as well

In reality I don’t know what’s right or wrong I hope everyone who’s a good person goes to heaven above anything else Christianity wise

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[teal jungle]

I was just trying to use an example to demonstrate that you can still disagree with something that sounds absurd even if you don't know everything about the subject

I tried to use an example different from God but it didn't quite land that wat

Way*

[pulsar delta]

Yes cuz u said the spaghetti man in serious conversation and my brain immediately just stopped reading it because it was atheism argument towards a specific creator

[teal jungle]

Yeah I wasn't trying to go for a specific creator angle

[pulsar delta]

I agree it’s premature to jump to conclusions but I promise u I’ve done the math and many smart people have done the math and they don’t get it either

[teal jungle]

I was just trying to suggest a non-God cause of life that you would disagree with

But I just accidentally created another God kind of concept

[teal jungle]

About why early life rose up from the deep sea?

[pulsar delta]

Well I think if chemical reactions produced life which makes sense then it could make zooplankton which makes sense but zooplankton would not want to travel otherwise they would die there

[teal jungle]

See this is what I was trying to get at when I was taking about you putting God in the place of concepts you do not and understand and have not researched

You don't understand why life would travel upwards? Sure, neither do I specifically. But have you tried to research and understand the current academic explanation of why life did this? I'm also curious to know so we could try to both find out

(This might read as condescending in some way but I promise I'm not trying to be)

[pulsar delta]

It’s anti evolution anti science

If u show me anti evolution I either see a god or a miracle that can’t happen in this context

[teal jungle]

No there could be a very reasonable explanation that you just haven't researched yet

I'll try find what they say on the subject academically

[pulsar delta]

That’s true but tell me what it is

The issue is u won’t be able to do it past theorizing

Ur knowledgeable on the subject u just are lacking some of the natural concepts of life’s ideas for survival here through points of barometric pressure they would have to periodically evolve over

And zooplankton don’t do that

They eat plants

[teal jungle]

Sure, but I wouldn't put God as an explanation in place of something I don't understand

[pulsar delta]

U don’t have to

[teal jungle]

When there almost certainly are explanations in line with our current proven understanding of the world

[pulsar delta]

I’ve studied the entire human body and I think it’s more than divine

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[pulsar delta]

Then tell me them

I’ll talk to u all day about it

[teal jungle]

When did I say I knew what they were, I'm curious to know though

What do you think I should search for try to find out

[pulsar delta]

Hmmm maybe history lesson 1

Natural occurring presences of early life and how evolution furthered the processes of changing how zooplankton act to float upwards

Is what u should study to try and interest me about the argument at hand

[teal jungle]

Idk if it's weird to go back to this, but do you see in this screenshot how I was saying that you specifically don't know about the subject of early life, and wasn't trying to say you didn't know about life and biology in general

Wait the ss doesn't really show the convo but u remember it

[teal jungle]

Yeah just wondering what to search to get to that point

[pulsar delta]

You’re thinking of it more literal but im thinking of this more emotionally because years worth of my work have gone into studying the human body and biology and histology and chemistry and physiology and and anatomy and I still haven’t figured out why this happens

I understand how ur bones cells work to a doctors level dude

I’ve done the math I just want the answers if anything cuz it’s one of the most knowledgeable topics i can talk to you about

[teal jungle]

Sure but I'm specifically asking if you think the fact that I was pointing out that you don't know much about the first lifeforms, ans not saying you didn't know about biology, is clear in hindsight or not

This is separate from the debate

[pulsar delta]

Yes but the upbringing was to boast my years worth of education in the subject of life and its processes of which u said I didn’t know anything about

It offends me because I’ve looked at it farther than most ppl here can even begin to understand

[teal jungle]

No no no, I wasn't saying you didn't know anything about the processes of life

Where did u get this from

[pulsar delta]

Early human life but those things are so interesting to me that denying my curiosity in stuff like biology is rude to me

[teal jungle]

I was just saying u didn't know, very specifically, about the first lifeforms / lifeforms

[bright wind]

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[pulsar delta]

I’ve been sitting here talking in depth about it to multiple ppl calmly all calling me an idiot for something I have more research on religious and scientific wise

I do know about the first life forms

I don’t believe in its elasticity

Unless it was a prompt of survival brought upon by a different chemical reaction that could create a predator to zooplankton that would cause zooplankton to run away from it you’ve lost me

And the way that those chemical reactions happened would’ve only produced filter feeding single cell organisms as far as I know

[teal jungle]

But zooplankton are not single cellular lifeforms, right?

[pulsar delta]

Im begging and pleading for someone to tell me what’s right about all this it’s life’s unanswered question to me

[pulsar delta]

Yes but we assume zooplankton in this context are unicellular and not somehow shrimps babies already

Because u couldn’t zap that to life

Show me a chemical reaction that does that and I’ll show u what I’ll call god after you do

[teal jungle]

Yeah I'm curious about this as well, it's not easy to find the answer through a Google search as it's too specific

Might be worth trying AI to see what the academic consensus on that question is, I might do it tmmr but for now I'll sleep

[pulsar delta]

Ai will prob take both sides it’s known to do that especially since this is a pseudoscientific theory on both arguments (just unproven no hate) but for sure study it

[ashen snow]

No. Even things like jellyfish and crab larvae and baby fish are plankton

[pulsar delta]

It’s just vague with the science we have now and im sure I could be wrong especially on the creators foundation of it but it’s so contrastingly vague to science and what ive studied as a passionately educated nurse that the answer goes generally unspoken as true

[ashen snow]

Technically even giants like the mola mola are considered plankton

They're at the mercy of the water currents for the most part, that's part of what makes things plankton and not just like, fish

[teal jungle]

Once I swam in the sea and the plankton started biting me

[ashen snow]

happens sometimes lole

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[languid moon]

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[fathom crescent]

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[languid moon]

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[grim edge]

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[toxic smelt]

For the cause of turgor pressure between the vacuole and the entire cell, is it cos of diffusion, osmosis or active transport
cos there is a permeable membrane

its the high water potential to low water potential right?

[frigid egret]

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