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nop he just admitted he cheats
??? I'm just saying it's not ai but it is cheats
no they get banned for doing that
mines undetected
not possible
it is possible
ur gonna get banned soon so make use of the time you have left
u got reported
because I admitted
I can still make new accounts yk
yeah
what is the point of cheating
but like what's the point you don't get bette rby using cheats
what's the point of living ?
That does not answer my question
yh
answer mine and I'll answer yours
i dont think u can reach 2700 with cheating, they're probably riyal
bro he asked first
yes you can
you live to live, as simple as that
you cheat to cheat, as simple as that
but when you cheat you create havoc and problems for the others
frfr
it is always so frustrating to lose to cheaters
yh bc u don't know if they're actually cracked or not
but if they get banned you get your elo back
yeah but still bro
stalemate
that’s one thing but the problem is that mfs like you cheat to start with
I put my own time in chess and studied for years only for a random 12 years old to totally wreck me with sf
so fun
ikr
yeh
it’s a wonderful feeling-
_n o _
blocked
what elo are you
was at around 2300 until my rapid literally started deteriorating after i began playing 15+10
mine improved when i played 15 plus 10
at my range rapid is literally impossible to play
so many cheaters
and if you cheat smart the algorithm can’t possibly detect you
the engine I use is 2300 elo
im stupid so 
🤓
:(
so? it is still an engine
dude snitch on himself 💀
read their other messages
he did that a couple hrs ago
i seen them already

he gonna get banned for sure so lets just ignore him
or block him. he wastin people's time
maybe he'll leave the server on his own
i want to have a conversation lol
if nobody speaks to him
yeah but you can win against it
if you're like 2300 elo or higher
72.0114° S, 2.5350° E
huh
quit doxing me
its ok man i'm in QLD too
you read my messages from before lil bro
no i simply looked at your cc account
crazy
lots to see on there
Who's cheating
me
L
waiting to get banned rn
whats his cc acc
Bro cc is mid a car is better
lol
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At least you're admitting it
ty ig lol
But cheating is noob
I agree I have a lack of skill
idk
You get locked out
why
and a lack of braincells 
What you should do instead of cheating is increasing your skill
what's the bet i get banned for fair play bc I get over 90 percent accuracy in most of my games
You don't get banned unfairly unless you name is Alireza Firouzja
this is my second cc acc

Why don't you try to get it back
I do too and Im not banned
bc i was tilted on that acc and i figured i would start fresh
idk man ig someone reported me
respect the action though
anyone wanna get boosted before I get banned
ah yes and get closed for abuse
…
absolutely brilliant
Unless the chance of something happening is 0%
UwU
bro don't make it worse
gtg
I like how I’m one of the few meme overlords in this server
hope i don't c u later eso lol
what did I do
Playing chess
with an engine
Does being rammed in the back rank by a big black rook make you smile more?
yes UwU
dreamybullxxx is my favorite YouTuber
that one was even less funny
Idk what you saying this guy posts the funniest memes I've ever seen
crazy
"eating one battery"
"Eating five batteries"
hilarious
Funniest captions I've ever seen
comedy gold.
Blud called the meme unfunny then comedy gold 🤨
Being sarcastic
Although I wasn't being sarcastic
These memes are truly the of all time
truly
🤨
hi
sir this is a chess server we simply can't abide by your request
it's feel like you need to not actually sneezing
I'd probably do the hiccups tho
finishing a sneeze is super satisfying tho so thats true
A(s)sa(u)lt rifle
a salt rifle
a pepper rifle
I thought it was something else before i saw it tho
bro it's 23 degrees in OCTOBER
i wonder how cold it's gonna be in january
country ?
Me when philippines
🇹🇲 guess the flag
me when typhoons
🇹🇲
🇹🇲
idk
its the flag of universal green card
bro what
isn't that romania
it's a nice flag fr i like the colors blue and green
🇱🇮

okay dude
that's not the chad flag
The Blue is slightly different
bro what
lithuania?
This is Romania 🇷🇴
no
it's the opposite
nope
lichenstein?
on discord they have no difference
I'm clean
hard to know what country by the "li"
or starts with "LI"
no but now i know what to do now lol
cheat code activated
Tf is incognito
ay don't laugh at my boy you took him out of his natural habitat the water pressure changes when he got pulled out really fast did this to him
Private version of chrome
??
atleast in terms of websites… your ISP can still get information
k
OH F***
that part is true, even colleges can track what you search.. a buddy learned that the hard way lol.
NAHH
your internet service provider can still see it
life already fks me what is the fbi gonna do, make rock bottom turn negative? 
Mobile data
This is why computer science should be mandatory at school
Imo
ok sure bro but how are you gonna get 200 gbs of mobile data
Yup. Befriend any tech interning with IT support and they'll let you know right away what data goes thru
it's more like addresses nothing personal, but they can see
and your isp can still see (atleast your carrier)
Who tf needs 200 gbs of data
I agree with that
you're right, we need 2,000
The max a person should need is 100GB/month
most poeple stay at home nowadays, probably social media takes like 1-2gb per day?
if you're outside the house
It depends on usage
im netflixing and huluing all day so ima need the entire network thank u very much
fair
just upgrade to a WiFi 6/6e router
congestion on those routers are very limited
IIRC it can support 25 devices at one time without a drop in speed
the power that it must draw tho. that's overkill for a home
i don't know much about routers tbh. i just wish netgear wasn't so @ss
oh you live in the states
That’s capitalism for ya
our provider is spectrum and has completely taken over SoCal. so when a city like 30minutes away goes down.. we go down as well LOL.
anyone know where to download free ram
that really sucks
im jealous you guys there have decent providers. you even have the BBC to listen in on decent radio 24/7
no idea either tbh. i have spotify on for my drives
💀💀
whats chess
aint no way
the age of consent is 18!!!!!!!!!
japan gets a pass since they birth rate low but
You know what chess is. If you wanna play just say yes or no or I will go rp mode
18!!!
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sorry ive never heard of chess before
Y'all know about it that's why you're here. Don't mess around or I will go RP mode
what
Roleplay mode.
please enlighten me
i think sirius wants it
what no
Lmfao
ur a wizard
wizards arent supposed to exist
probably the one that wins the game in a few turns
I am currently Head of Auror Office and Head of the Department of Magical Law Enforcement
g3
e
2.18
yessir
I also work under the Minister of Magic who also has The order of Merlin first class and is the head of Wizengamot
Does anyone else wants more RP or should I stop
I can do an hour long conversation in RP mode if anyone wants
oh okay g's better
reputation points from gta v 👀👀
anyone rated 1200 - 1400 here?
where do you guys live? full address
do u want to play?
umm, do you want to help me test a bot?
what kind of bot is it
A bot I made based off of Leela
I'm here to smoke cigars and kick asses. And I'm out of cigars.
What's your elo and what TC?
3+0 and im 1000
I got my first brilliant

why g3?
@grim edge can u game review this ?
Donr
Dms
that's my record rn
For best game played
do you wanna help me test a bot?
I have two different bots that should be >500
yes
Ig
okay what time control, and dm me
feels nice to win with a mate , instead of ladder mating or ff everygame
love winning by ff
goofy ahh game bro
https://www.chess.com/game/81900514018
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I fricking knew that he will go for the rook fork they always do
rg8
then why did you move your bishop
rb8
but a knight sac seems hella unnecessary
you mean g?
because if he takes any rook he looses a rook and a knight
why behind king
coz discovered attack after rook takes knight
rb8 threatens mate
@hearty glacier what's your elo?
600-700
and then u can stack the rooks on 2nd rank
that guy was 650
simply play re7 🤷♂️ still losing but semi saves for a bit
hmm
yeah idk but any sac is very unnecessary rn
rg8 doesnt look like any imminent threat so idk
bruh i really want to put some effort into studying (been stuck at 600-700 for a while) but no time 😦
i only like know 1-2 openings for each color (only a few lines) and just play with instinct
sup
no
hmmm i play e4 , london , caro , alekhine
Italian, caro or e5 and KID for everything else
guys which good laptop should i buy to run smooth Minecraft wo no lags
if u want to play games pc is better
just play chess
but i heard we have to keep upgrading its part like every 2 months
@hearty glacier do you want to help me test out a bot?
sure
so i can play for a whole year wo upgrading?
@hearty glacier dm me the time control
bruh been using same pc for 5 years
time control?
1+0, 3+0, 10+0, etc.
wow discriminating against 5+0
🙄
I've had mine for 10
does anyone ever take a break from chess and then they’re suddenly bad?
are you just saying that or is that a way to hurt somebody else
:3c
usually people play better after taking a break
yeah that’s what happened to me
i won like 9 games in a row
I do not care regardless. If the words I say impact someone else greatly, they should grow thicker skin ngl
i don’t know what to say so i’m just gonna be moving on
why is magnus cosplaying 600s bro😭
aww thank you
I had a break for a while and gained 200 elo in 4 days, breaks are pretty good
oh wait that wasn’t a compliment
literally me
200 elo is wild

it could probably take me a few weeks to conjure up that luck
if only i could gain 200 bullet rating
let's play
unrated
yeah ik
actually i don’t have time i gotta study for a history test
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Tbf I did tilt like 160+ elo prior but I did take a break as my play deteriorated greatly (but I got heaps of sleep which helps
@tulip lichen i’m pissed but now nobody will think i’m cheating
that’s how i truly feel. under all those ggs im lowkey pissed
but i’m not gonna do nothing
Nobody thinks you're cheating if you have a winstreak ngl
depends on how long it is
It more depends on the quality of games
"and at that moment his villian arc started"
lil bruh think he slick with a 9 win streak
nah i am slick 😎
call me amigos 
you got it amigo(s)
bro did your ops play the damiano
how did bro get a 9 win streak
bro's him of the 600s
okay but thing is my friend kinda coached me
so i’m pretty good
whether it be slow or fast
anyone wanna play blitz I'm rated 400
said the sub 1k
i really wanted to save my rook so i risked checkmate
i was not gonna die slowly and in pieces
anyone wanna play blitz I'm rated 400
glitch
you know that right
what's your bench pr @grim edge
I got a bot for you 🗿
what's your OTB rating btw
400
bro ISN'T otb rated..
I mean tbf I got a 3000 rated bot, and a 400 rated bot
how tf 😭
he's 400 he aint playing over the board
what's your profile
wait like lowkey he's 400 💀
just find it somehow
right click his pfp apps chess.com profile
wait you can do that
yes
tf
i was playing a joke game and somehow got a brilliant
yea that's what happens
💀
boosted
man what the hell
clearly
I'm boosted
sep 23
ya I'm boosted
no I'm just boosted by a friend
you CAN'T do that....
jokes

that's rating manipulation...
crazy
bro blundered his carrier
Help moderatorz
And his account
fr
umm.
Yus
750 rated magnus carlsen
Hi
ooh they got banned
im higer
Why
K
It shouldn't happen again tho
what’s up boy
who u
no idea
He is cis boy
yes
I am just orthodox male
A
bravo 👏

oh hi
naw bro aint magnus carlsen he's carlos magnussen
you couldn’t recognize the profile?
im tired af
how tall are you
artificially
artificially
maybe his friends real
gotta keep grinding until i get the record for the lowest possible elo
10
bro lives in north korea
😱

Ok
he artificially manipulated his rating with his friend
he didn't get that rating naturally
Like me
yo what
i dont know how there are people under 2k rating in 2023
fr
lock me out for 9 dubaloons
I don’t know how there are people under 3000 elo in 2025
































































1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bb5 [Nf6] 4. O-O Nxe4 5. Re1 Nd6 6. Nxe5 Nxe5 7. Rxe5+ Be7 8. Bf1 O-O 9. d4 Bf6 10. Re1 Nf5 11. c3 d5 12. Nd2 c6 13. Nf3 Nd6 14. h3 h6 15. Bd3 Be6 16. Bf4 b5 17. b3 a5 18. Ne5 Bxe5 19. dxe5 Nf5 20. Qg4 Ne7 21. Qg3 Ng6 22. Bxg6 fxg6 23. Bxh6 Bf5 24. e6 Qf6 25. Bg5 Qxe6 26. Rxe6 Bxe6 27. Qd6 Bf5 28. Qxc6 Rad8 29. Bxd8
2 brilliant move guyss
"says the 200"
istg the cockiest people are always cheaters
that’s nothing, I got one best move
one of my games
fr
how?
im 2.5k
because i’m an animal at chess
connect ur account or no one will believe you
1400-1599 rated xd?
If I had a pistol loaded with 3 bullets and had osama bin laden, you, zitler, jeffrey Dahmer in the same room I would shoot you three times
Facts though
Real
u fear me
haha
most people here are kids and i dont want them to see my account
seng game link
then u are not 2.5k lmao
Edited as html
i am actually and its not as hard as you think
https: //www.chess.com/analysis/game/pgn/5HFDW3tUeJ?tab=analysis it gives different results depending on depth and also I broke the link so albert doesn’t flood chat
man
i won sith an brilliant sac
i just lost 3 games in a row this week
only 1 inaccuracy brought that down
suuuuuuuuuuuuiiiiiiiiii
yap yap yap
no matter how many brilliants you get anything that’s bad will bring your score down
oh and best moves too
and 1 mistake!
Yappity yapping yap
ITS FR LMFAO
its jist that people here can get info about your account such as name etc
Dm me ur account then buddy
Same moves played alot of time?
avoided 3fold but yeah basically
Expected
@stable mirage how
and ofc you could push it another few hundred moves if you used 50 move better
Cuz if he takes then takes and mate/stalemate
not including different setups later in the game
Real
wow a 2.5k with a "why is there this in 2023" mindset
I do not believe you
@stable mirage pretty sure you broke the world record for most moves without taking a piece
send game link
fr
nah other people have done similar things
just threw a game up a rook into a rook vs rook endgame where I dirty flagged my opponent
same as the other one #💬〡general-off-topic message
feels so good to be garbage but still dirty flag
I think more specifically flagging a dead draw
flagging in a dead lost or dead drawn position
@severe oxide how do i block a guy 20cm taller than me in basketball?
bro girls on the beach only cover two parts and get mad at us when we only look at them😔
Oh
Understood
fr if they covered everything else we would look there
don’t go for the block stand strong with both hands in the air and use ur body to make the shot difficult
he just puts ball above his head and i can't reach it
what does seeing ur account do
we look at the covered parts out of kindness for them
foul him
don’t aim for the ball, just two hands straight up in air in his face
ofc
he could shoot free throws
just injure him
if ur gonna get a foul make sure they get injured
ya
i have a basketball game today 🥶🙏
he wasn't very smart
playing in a men’s league so will be interesting
he wasn't reaching over my head for rebounds so I got it from him several times
coach asked me to take out a guy in football last time and i only got a yellow card so thats something
idk how u gonna injure someone in basketball tho
nobody ever takes me out because im that shit
Cap, aren't you the one who was like 4'11
take out their legs on a fast break
5'7
Wtf 💀
i met someone taller then me recently
That's actually tall for an Asian girl
girl 💀
yeah
Nuh uh
No pfp assumptions
(that wasn’t my father)
Female pfp = male
Male pfp = female
Any other pfp = male
No pfp = female
i just broke my puzzle rush streak finallly lmfao
he kept panicking but none of could reach the ball if he just puts it above his head
he kept missing shots and catching rebounds because none of us could reach it before he does
im only 5'7, how am i supposed to deal with a 6'3 guy?
Rodman and the kiddie toucher 🥶🙏
Get physical use ur body
basically the only way
learn muay thai
all of your limbs will be not legal to carry without a license
I am going to tell you this very secret technique alr
Dont tell anyone
Kick the ball
Can you guys suggest openings for me as a 600 elo in rapid?
Muay thai is overrated
italian and e5 🙏
e4 e5
London
oh ok sure bro
italian hits diff fr 🔥 🔥 🔥
broo
fools mate opening tho 💯 💯
giuoco piano >>>
@wicked oak Do not listen to him boy
Ok I'll play Italian
watch youtube vidoes on how to play it
Ok thank you
OMFG IM SO CLOSE TO 800
(in bullet) YESTERDAY I WAS 600
Phallu’s mate is better
i don’t look i stare.
fr
ew bullet
my gym is full of gym girls
bros gonna be in a gym creep tiktok
I enjoy being humiliated let me record me
too much ass flying around here
fr
i go to a single sex school
💀
all boys?
Unlucky lil man
bro they be wearing shit that shows too much and get mad at us when we look at their limbs
going to an all boys school as gay person might be the method
rip
and i’m not even interested in them it’s like looking at museum artifacts
bro going to a boys school is what makes you gay 😭 😭
fr
yeah bro i.ve experienced that shit
at least sometimes we get 2 change rooms for our class in PE
they be gay as shit
they're homiesexual🔥🔥🔥
some people at my school are quite gay
the boys changed room goes crazy at my school
we started a fight club for a bit
I am slightly worried
Why do you have that in your galley is my question
our teacher can hear every n word we shout in the change room and he doesn't care
real
Hi
Playing gay chicken in the boys change room goes crazy 🥶🥶🥶🥶🙏🙏🙏
useful things
Why is this bad?
i left the change room today and i heard one of my classmates yell, "im gonna rpe you"
Black is winning
Yeah lmao today this senior came in for no reason at all while we were changing next thing we knew was that the vape kid was knocked out
Shit goes hard
how does white defend f2
because you can't defend f2
there are always numerous r word threats that happen in the change rooms
i LOVE vaping in the change rooms
my class has the most muslims out of all the classes in the year
Why is this bad?
there are 0 muslims at my school
Yo kurie 900 soon?
Yea
this shi slap
Nice
Btw this is stalemate
What's wrong with having muslims though
nothing
@nimble niche
nothing if they don't make terrorist jokes all day
K good
So they can make terrorist jokes if they are non Muslims, sounds racist ngl
Wait
this patient salt slaps bro
Who is good at chess here?
there is 1 arab kid who’s locker is next to mine and he threatens to bomb me quite a bit
No u just can't make terrorist jokes
i was joking, i was saying that they do make terrorist jokes
@pastel phoenix what online elo is the minimum to be considered good
nothing
just like how i often make jokes about eating cats for dinner
Dogs*
600
Stfu troll
2600
Yea that’s average
600 is lower than average
Oh
whenever i see a dog or cat while walking to somewhere with my friends, i always say "oh look, dinner"
Get to 800
800 is average, around there
2800 fide
Nah bro blundered💀
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Rapid: 1707 (1757 peak)
Blitz: 1289 (1559 peak)
Bullet: 1171 (1620 peak)
I am so close to 600 and i would be good soon
Are my stats good
If it moves it's for the dinner table 🗿
1200 is okay I guess
If it exists it's for dinner table
tree branches
good is a subject term. Too a 300 a 1000 is good. to a 2000 a 1000 is dogshit but to a 2500 2000 is dogshit and to a 3000 2500 is dogshit
Can't wait to be considered to good player
I mainly play rapid I don't play blitz anymore
i haven't played rapid in so long
Well move with their will not some external factor like wind
I know that that's why I asked for her perspective of the word good
so much of the rapid leaderboard gets banned
E4
ez top 1000
D4 is better u gotta slam that d up the file don't u think
c5
Resigns
Aborts
close enough to top 1000
What's that background
What is yo rating 2.4k??
2.2k rapid
U only see what u want
Nuh uh
leaderboard is super ez
Are u a girl or boy
nsfw
ew
Pass here I wanna see (for research purposes)
(Asking for a friend)
dm
Pass me the full picture of ur pfp plz
I haven't played rated rapid since July
Ight
Are you washed up?
play me in rapid rated i promise i won’t cheat 🙏🥶
rapid is for nerds
The game : 100 acc 6 brilliants 24 great moves 12 best moves
I shower 3 times a day prob 20 times more than the average 2200 showers in a week
I've played 4 brilliants once
I have played a brilliant move imbecile
What's ur rating
3 of them were really easy to find and the other one wasn't even the best move but just fancy
I do love them fancy moves
owo
owo
uwu
For the last three, i was completely winning regardless of whether or not I played the brilliant
owo
i’m just a different breed
uwu(says with a cute seducing tone)
I question you one the second brilliant you didn't answer
don't question why i keep dropping rating
You just got a bishop for bishop
any 2k wanna 1v1 me I'm a measly 1700
And it was brilliant
username flex
i keep playing in the car/bus
I could request the username stop
and you wouldn’t get it lil man
im assuming your bed doesn't move all the time 🤨
has my account been inactive for 3 years? didn’t think so buddy
I get slammed so hard there's a dent on my bed and me
Hi
Hi
I said the username stop
Oh i miss read it
any 2000 wanna 1v1 me unrated I'm a 1700
what’s ur acc name
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Moderator or Staff: False
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Rapid: 1707 (1757 peak)
Blitz: 1289 (1559 peak)
Bullet: 1171 (1620 peak)
I would later but im in school rn (im 1920)
What's ur acc
made octobor 11th 💀
@severe oxide what's ur user
oooh chess
idc
I don't do puzzles
hiii
dw bro his username is LITERALLY idc
huh?
Don’t fear the man who is high rated, fear the man who played GMs
my friend was showing me interesting twitter videos during maths class today
Don't fear the man, fear the jungle under
g
have you ever won against gms before?
don’t fear the man, fear the sigma
Nah
💀
Name: CM Jesse Zafirakos (icy)
Title: Candidate Master
Premium Member: True
Moderator or Staff: False
Streamer: False
Rapid: 2400 (2411 peak)
Blitz: 2400 (2522 peak)
Bullet: 2568 (2877 peak)
then stfu, nobody cares if you watch open challenges all day
wow
I don’t
idk skill issue tbh
zitler guys 😭
I dropped to 2500 before
I want to get 2850 back
guys I was so close to 800
win more games fr
ikr
now im 784 again 😭
Guys I was so close to 1800
Misses:
Then I got tilted and lose 50 elo and got back to 1700
?
Look at his rating
and
Which one r u
that guy keeps posting every single inaccuracy gms play
smh
show
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Bullet: 1171 (1620 peak)
lmfao
Stfu u 500
chillout bro
noob raging at other noob
????
Icy how old r u
18
💀
why
Jobless lol
Got exams soon
Idgaf
Ur 8
oki 
what is goin on
ATAR?
yes
what subjects
Am 13
legal psych english
“Jobless lol”
username checks out
u going to uni or nah
yes
Yes
Nah my pfp says it all not my username
Next year
for psychology ?
no?
For what then
data science
fun
Dude stfu u know what I'm talking about
bro what
silence child
people at 18 still go to college
Part time jobs I'm not that dumb
i have a job 🙏🥶
@fossil forge is 13
And a day lol
bros dad paid him 5 bucks to mow the lawn and he thinks he's balling
<@&745328830649991179> check @fossil forge deleted messages bro is being annoying
happy birthday bud
Thanks ig
tax the poor
What did I do
I agree
real
evict single mothers from their homes
I wish they made slaves free though
preach
I wish slaves were free
we got a different meaning of that
And that they hadn't freed the slaves from the dungeon
holy cow that’s outta this world
i know right
fr
Smash
holy cow that is*
anyone up for 1v1
Me
hey wait what type of chemistry is that
ty
organic
what time control
i want a head start before it gets worse
who are you asking
you
Anyone remember that dude begging for people to play this Imnotsmurfing34
i'm not the guy that posted the worksheet, and idk what country you live in
yes
the us
i do not live in the us
oh
maths spec goes crazy
yea obviously
someone wanna play
im down for a game
ill send link
🙏
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whyd you abort
i will remember before i forget
it glitched i think
Before i forget that
@frigid parcel https://play.chess.com/RhE5n
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anyone up for a unrated chess game?
@frigid parcel damn gg
gg you were winning
nah really?