#💬〡chess-talk
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yes
Then by that logic we should sac the king
we cant thats the point of chess
Why
otherwise its mate
It's easier to mate with bishops
This debate is quite pointless
exceptions aside, like the king, I'm pretty sure piece values were mainly decided based on the amount of squares they can control
How about we leave it to the engines for judging>
exactly
That's a fair representation
True
king worth 0
bro thats what i said
Stockfish doesn't have a brain bro
Nuh uh
you argued with me there
I didn't
no i said this
I don't argue, I only talk, bro 😞
And get very amd when ur mad
Yum
and strategic roles, coordination, pawn structures, and endgame effectiveness
Is that creme brulee
What's amd
😋 Big back mode has activated
People make mistakes
And it doesn't help if you SHAME on them
What mistake have I done
@chrome latch what's worth more, a pawn that's about to promote or a bishop
All of those can help determine the relative value of a piece in a given position yeah. But I'm referring to the numeric values they're given as a rule of thumb
What, I haven't done any wdym bro 😭
Your claim in the debate on rooks and bishops
Ohhhh
Bishops are better
It is @uneven turret
Look you cant help a man who isnt ready to help himself
I already said bro, bishops are better
...
Its the same thing with rook vs bishops
Okay
I win
I'm not gonna argue
Yea at this point just accept her opinion
If you think that you be you
It's only your chess skills that are going to diminish
Nah I don't think that I just wanted to see how far y'all would try to proof me wrong
Well I figured since this server normally isn't serious about anything
Are u serious?
well a more reasonable comparison is knight vs bishop
Now I look rude, that was supposed to be a bad joke instead
What's the truth, what's serious I wonder
But they react with "get better"
Lowk I’m slowly getting so white washed I started liking mac and cheese bro😭
Wdym white washed 😭
yo you give free chess coaching@safe folio?
Being like a white person
U are 2000 tho
2200
Ohh :0 but what does that have to do with eating mac and cheese
can a white person be white washed
Bro just took the opportunity to flex
i mean is it free but
I used to dislike burger and mac N cheese now I eat it and actually enjoy it 😭 😭 😭
At this point I question who's the coach
Only for under 1700
Ohhhh
Fr
Are you titled
why so ggenerous?
"We're the couches of our own ignorance"
Heck no
there a spelling mistake
Idk
No, I actually meant it
Okay
how much free time you have
._.
Only on sunday
oh
Ye
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
your parents allow?
Ye
I used to live at a place where there would be a furry festival every year
To war? 😨
Hell nah, I'm cooked
Yooo twin, Les change places, there's 0 here
tf
Oldest trick in the book
I don’t live there anymore I moved to dc
Ta hell is a g00 chair 😭
Ohhhh I see
u dont wanna know
Godamn, y'all are too dirty minded or am I actually just too innocent, holy 😭
HUH 😭
i dont either tbh 💀
LMAO 😭
ENGINEERING FLASH
I have some MORE gifs if you'd like to see them
Jumpscare
What's this, I fell like in school now
Better send DMS to not get snitched 😭
Nerd stuff
nah look up what that means
I fear doing, you said that I don't want to know
Just lost a game even after I trash talked to the opponent.
Peak 🔥🔥
how old r u?
16
Be my cute little furry and teach me some tips by playing against me.
oh shi nvm then dont it means nothing lol
Im 1 year older
Connor is different
WHAT💀 💀 💀
no?
Ohhh yeee I remember u saying in the GC:p
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Never knew Connor called furries cute and to play against them, and little ones
Ssehc
chess
Chess
They are cute though.
yall are soo young oml
A game of chess? where you can teach me few tips on my weaknesses?
Pfft okay unc
I am 24 btw, soon to be 25.
off topic get him
Wellll, I'm not going to play more chess today, but I'll tomorrow, if u tell me ur elo I may be able to send u some tips based on it 🙂
aunt* get it right
350+
Noooo protect the buddyy
i forgot to reply mb
Dont make me send something you cant unsee 0-0
Is it weird if every time I do an en passant against someone I just scream at them “EN PASSANT!!!”
what elo do yall think is the funnest??
You scream your attacks like a true protagonist.
then you can probably get away with wayward queen attack
How do y’all prepare for an otb tournament
i dont
What's your elo?
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i always say enpassant out loud when i capture
i think 600s -700s have the most interesting games lol yea
depends on which rating you're looking at
30mins rapid?
nrn i just woke up 😭
just woke up?? whats ur time zone?
gmt +8
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dayumm im cst
Ohhh, I've been there :p, this rating level games are decided by blunders, and blunders happens due to board vision lack, yk, you can fix that by doing some things, the first one is chess puzzles, try doing like 3 of them before a chess game or on ur free time :3. The 2°- is to actually play alot, this means practice, your brain has to get used to the big chess board :), and the third one, my favorite one there's a black app lichess,they got puzzles for "hanging pieces" this means the web will show u positions in which there are hanging pieces on the board, and u should find and play then, this will help a lot too!
i think my 15yo brain is too dumb to know what this is
Do you sleep in the morning?
my favorite word to say in a chess tourney , is checkmate, with a forcefull full tone..
Currently 2610
Bullet
unfortunate
The dude decided to write a lecture
2600 lc bullet is actually tough tho
I wanna help them the much as I can XD
Wow new puzzle system is hard to climb. Getting 2-3 rating per solve, and losing 12-13 per incorrect
Nah on ICC
fide online arena ahh
Better than fide online 😂
Maybe the lectures will help them
does it need you to pay 🙏
Completely free
Hopefully, yeeeh :p I'll be happy if so
dang it aint fide arena then
If i played chess it would help
Well except for puzzles and stuff but who needs those @radiant swan
God why did I wake up at 5 am
You tell me, you have free will
hi all
Oh god is here
😭 I have an exam I'm few hrs gimme ur blessings god
Its not that easy😭
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It's easy bro
anyone wanna play me im bored
awesome
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nice
Been enjoying the London system recently, a nice change of pace to actually know an opening as someone who is pretty rubbish at chess lol
I was thinking about London
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let me see mine
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I like it, I'm still making mistakes in the move order sometimes and I need to learn variations but i feel like I usually get quite a strong position from it
rare to see someone with 2k rapid have higher blitz and bullet than the rapid
-15C

@barren wolf please connect ur account
You don’t need a specific turn order there you can start however you want
How do I do that
can we all agree that the Caro-kann is overrated
Yeah
only 1 way to tell if you are right
how well do you do against it
There is a lot that goes into an opening
It's not just moves and then you win
I am losing interest in chess
you gotta make moves to win tho
but I think the caro is still doing very well up to like 2k
then quit fr
🥀
I don't want to
I think it’s good but I do well against it
please connect ur account
Shut up bot
french better 🥱 winawer clears every opening
It's not that one dimensional, it's way deeper than that
bro had enough
<@&745328830649991179>
at that level most white players still often don't know how to not blunder all their center pawns lol
if you're losing interest then you have no reason to continue
it’s sometimes 2d on the phone 3d on a chess board
which is kind of crazy to me because it's so common that at some point surely you learn it out of frustration
Join ICC
you shouldn't forcr yourself
Why R U pinging server mods for no reason?
@iron bison I will put this simply. Your either in or your out there isn’t a between
That's true But what I gain my interest back
i have the opposite problem
then get it back bruh
too interested in chess
I lost against a 400 elo player it hurt my ego 💔
hey guys, how do i get permission in the vc?
😭
I randomly gained a addiction to chess when I saw Gotham chess sac the rook
what’s ur elo
You still have your ego, you have a long way to go
why do you have 2 rating tags on your profile
because I’m just that good
i feel like for me it comes and goes but like past month maybe holy shit its just always on my brain
1187 on lichess
oh shit your cooked pal
No way just accept it
Thank U Hopefully I will get back soon🙏
I know🥀
I have quit playing videogames to focus on chess
A lot of other things
Just studying more of it recently
Lichess best
now do /profile
study 16 hours a day and you’ll become great like Bobby Fischer don’t worry
Unfortunately I have school otherwise I would
then drop out
💀hell nah
ngl maybe hot take but how is chess different to a video game lol, maybe its the reputation but other than that it can be equally bad
I know but as someone as bad as I am, I'm just trying to follow openings as closely as possible rn lol
I ain't gonna make living playing a board game💔
continue playing when you're regaining your interest for chess you shouldn't make yourself play
why r u losing interest anyways 🙏
lowkey just take a break and come back to it later you’ll feel more refreshed but play worse
ts so tuff
I am worse than you
not sure about playing worse
I take a break from a week and I play like shit
I think the peak is from when I first made the account lol I never remember being above 400 in anything lol
yeah that makes sense lol
It's different cuz a videogame has graphics, visual,stories
On the other hand
A board game is just a board game which requires a lot of strategies
Both are very different when it comes to affecting our attention and dopamine receptors
Chess has consumed me, I spend 8+hours a day on chess everyday
just play clash
7 years ago when I first started I think I put new to chess and it started me at 800 (i was not 800)
least no life chess enthusiast
We all gotta start somewhere, I've been a 300-400 player for like 3 years but that's because I haven't really made an effort to improve until now
i guess video games are easier to get into if you put it this way, but I feel like my dopamine receptors are equally fried
I am trying to be the goat
especially when i play bullet
And I'm still at 400
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I am losing interest cuz I am suffering from an extreme burnout and losing streak I am going to take a break tho thanks for the advice
I started at 100 and climbed up to 1300. Unfortunately my main got banned so I made a new account
when u gonna reach 2k?
if I don't limit myself I will do that lol
i have 0 self control to stop when I need to
Lowk why chess so fun
Not gonna tell U cuz U unfriended me🙄
The addiction/dedication is real😂
True I feel the same!
I think if you are below 2500 its mostly boring
No time for that cuh Barely have time to train for chess🥀
No i mean what kind of person i really am
I am really feeling the morphy quote "the ability to play chess is the sign of a gentleman, the ability to play chess well is the sign of a wasted life"
Bro I wanna lock in and get good but idk how
Or maybe join a club asw
I read that on Pinterest
u didn't connect
Turn on classical music throw Ur phone across the window and lock in !
why is morphy talking
YouTube alone can get you to 2000 online
THEN HOOK ME UP
Depends
HOW
Chess-network
honestly the last time I was coached was when I was 1300 chess.com blitz lol
Could someone explain how white taking the rook would result to a stalemate??
how is this a brilliant
What?
but i went from 1.3k to 2k with youtube
you can say that when you are more than 200 points away from 2k 😂
just kidding we are all bad
It doesn't depend most players came during the pandemic, so they don't know the actual useful YouTube channels, they know Gotham
Could someone please explain how white taking blacks rook would result to a stalemate?
have you seen magnus play
does anyone know the point of sacrificing the bishop? or is purely just for positional advantage?
oh thanks
how
I was watching chess content on YouTube back in 2016💀, don't get me Started on twitch, the most views at that time was 100-200
how were the chess streams back in year 0
Because either your king or your rook blocks the g7 square which is the only chance of escape for blacks king
your in front of a bunch of people on stage
Botez
Could we dm?
what’s the baddest piece in chess
I think you mean what's the worst piece in chess
no like the most crackable and sexiest
Nah vro
knight because thats the best one to put up your ass
no that's bad grammar
baddest is not correct, it's actually worst
The worst piece is definitely the c1/c8 bishop
it’s called slang bro like bad equal like hot n shit
yeah, crack a knight
hey, somebody wanna join me at just chatting 2 and play and have fun ?
DORYETUOSENBCAKOHN ACCEPTED A FRIEND REQUEST
Tower Defense Simulator
hard to argue against good statements impossible to argue against dumb statements
who
Time to pack it up
rarest sight ever
emma?
yes this was an exceptional case
yuh
suprsing
what happened 💀
exceptional by dor is next level
can't tell you
he lost
I didn't lose to anyone
imma ask emma how she did it vro
friends with doryetuosenbcakohn 🥶🥶🥶
is it that hard to add dor
also I friended someone from this server yestesrday too
My worst rating range of all time is definitely the time when I was 2100-2300, that was excruciating
So like the king could go back and forth on the g8 and h8 and capture the pawns?
she won't know
I asked her something in dm and she hasn't answered yet
msh
idk
tbh pixel we've played enough games and are in so many servers if you sent me a request I'd probably accept
so mean
what about me? 👉🏻👈🏻
No, the g8 square is blocked by the pawn on h7, which itself can not be captured, this leaves 1 move for the black king, which is the g7 square, but your rook or king are blocking that square, so if the black rook sacrifices itself and gets captured whilst the g7 square is defended by one of your pieces, then it will be a stalemate
haven't interacted with you enough
Are we not already friends? If not its not really a feature that does anything for me to care
smh
nah we're not discord friends yet 💀
oh
friending people allows you to add each other to group chats
and also if you turn off dms they can still dm you
okay ill add then
getting added by dor is tough 🙏

top 10 achievemnts of all time
no shit
it cannot be that bad lol
I wonder if emma for whatever reason hasn't seen my dm or if she's intentionally not replying
friend system doesnt matter too much imo
the others guys are players checkers I’m playing chess so why don’t we head back to your castle and finish on that chest
AY. YO.
it's a good way to stay connected if one of the friends decides to leave all public servers
why wouldn’t the bishop take
cheap bullet premove trick gng, clearly you haven't played enough
real
I only play rapid
Hm so would this sequence i made in my head be wrong? White king f6, then black king g8, white pawn h8, black king h8, white pawn g7, black king h7, white pawn g8, black king g8, THEN stalemate?
Holy essay
that's on you
If we played chess backwards starting with both kings being checkmated, would Magnus still win
bullet is where all the fun is at vro
bad ending Qd8 Qxc8 Qxc8
No, as long as the pawn is on h7 then the black king will never be able to get to g8,
When chess is dictated by RNG of a coin toss and whoever gets white wins 💔 🥀
RIP JFK
bishops are basically like snipers
dopamine junkie 🤝
unfortunately true
Im new to ts so my fault for not understanding
Wait one sec
Hm
Hii good morning
So happy lol im in a rapid tournament and I englund'd a higher rated player
I don't fully know what sequence you mean 💔 you can always use the computer analysis
his b2 pawn was really weak but he knew the line til the knight fork thing
Where is that please
tbh I like playing black more
Ok so i might have been right?
Or i was definitely wrong
too hard to play a dubious opening as white
You can go into your game and click on the little magnifying glass (top right for mobile, I'm not sure where it is on computer)
nah its just my white rep sucks
like I don't actually understand how to play anything
Oh it isnt my game tho
i think it makes sense initially your black repertoire can be quite narrow if you specialise on a few things
but with white you kind of have to learn the main reponses from black
Are you on computer or mobile
Mobile
yeah I can see why you like black more from our games
i hit 78 wins against titled players , so happy
I don't know if this really makes sense but I feel more able to take risks with black
🔥
Ah ok, then when you open the app, on the bottom right there is 3 lines, go into that and you'll see a whole bunch of different options. Look for "analysis", go into it and select custom position, then you can clear the board and input whatever position you want
and ive only recently found out about this feature to search games by title I think it's pretty neat
yeah
chessbase search is even more in depth though its pretty awesome to use that when teaching and looking for positions
i wish i could study more but i got no time. i started playing almost 3 years ago and i got obssed
out of like 60 games
Oh ok tysm!
i played like 1300 games in the last 7 days
that's very nice progress :)
lmao wtf i have it bad but i dont know if it was ever this bad lol
that s really cool, i haven t beat a gm yet, 3 ims only
granted, it was bullet but still
you can feel it if you're playing a GM
like they might be lower rated because they are old and slow
but your positional just sucks perpetually
they don't just hand those out i guess 😂
yeah, i usually face them in bullet cause my rating is higher there
but even at 2200-2300 fms and above play differently that non titled players
i mean like 200 games in one day ive tried before
they are way more agressive
i guess when i was 2200-2300 i could tell titled players have better technique
like some things you just don't pick up if you don't study the game
my first win against a titled player was against a WCM that was like 1200
on new years 2 years ago
at like 11 55
i was gassed
hi guys hru all amazing people?
Bro im an actual idiot 😭 Rxf6 would be an immediate stalemate
Ty for opening my eyes
Where can I learn techniques?? I've been asking this for the longest 🥲
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1. d4 Nf6 2. Bf4 c5 3. dxc5 e6 4. Bd6 Bxd6 5. Qxd6 Na6 6. Nc3 Qa5 7. Nf3 Ne4 8. Qd4 Nxc3 9. bxc3 Qxc5 10. Qxg7 Rf8 11. e3 f6 12. Bd3 Qxc3+ 13. Ke2 Nc5 14. Bxh7 b6 15. Bg6+ Kd8 16. Qxf8+ Kc7 17. Bd3 Nxd3 18. cxd3 Qc2+ 19. Nd2 Ba6 20. Rhd1 Qxd3+ 21. Kf3 Qe2+ 22. Kg3 Rxf8 23. Rac1+ Kb7 24. Ne4 Rg8+ 25. Kh3 Qg4#
maybe I had one earlier on lichess
I do remember the first time I held my own against a CM going 2-3 in a match though that was exciting
it s always something special beating someone reallly good
What does cm stand for?
candidate master
https://www.chess.com/game/live/130171745215?move=0 this is my best win i belive. i was 2000 at that time but 2300 now
































































1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. c3 g6 4. d4 cxd4 5. cxd4 d5 6. exd5 Qxd5 7. Nc3 Qd8 8. d5 Nb8 9. Bc4 Bg7 10. O-O Nf6 11. Bb3 O-O 12. Re1 Bg4 13. Bg5 Bxf3 14. Qxf3 Qb6 15. Rxe7 Na6 16. Rae1 Nc5 17. d6 Nxb3 18. axb3 Qxd6 19. h4 Nh5 20. Ne4 Qb4 21. Bd2 Qxe7 22. g4 Nf6 23. Bg5 Qb4 24. Bd2 Qb6 25. Nc3 Rac8 26. Rd1 Rfd8 27. Re1 Rxd2 28. g5 Nh5 29. Ne4 Rdd8 30. Nc3 Re8 31. Rf1 Rcd8 32. Nd5 Qc6 33. Ne3 Qxf3 34. Rc1 Nf4 35. Kf1 Qh3+ 36. Ke1 Qh1#
this is my new highest rated bullet win lol
Elo can go up to 3k?? 😭
Is that person even real??
well theres 3400 rated people
hikaru is like 3449
I've become numb to playing titled players, I play them almost everyday, heck they sometimes beg for rematches, how the tables have turned 
wow awesome
Wtf??
1000 point gap is crazy
Yea online ratings higher than irl elo
GMs are always still special though
Man theres levels to this game fr
Too many levels frfr
Lol I got timed out
its true
the differencee between 2300 and 2700 is bigger than 1000-2300
Kinda, I've only played a handful of them , but IMs and below it's not all that
For sending gifs
Cm is from what to what?
I know cause of how much i know I don’t know

otb 2200-2300 fide
whys everyone in chat good 🙏
I’m not
yeah exactly, you feel it when you're playing a GM
bro
they just have that feel for where the pieces are supposed to go
yall getting 3000 wins and my best is a 2700
gang im cooked
the overall score is gonna be ignored, but great win
i technically didnt get adopted he stopped at 9 wins at the end
eh could be worse
Yeah like there is only 1500+ GMs in the world
could be lke covid when i got 50k in a year
this is why I dont play rated tourneys
nice
Like 2700 aint something to be proud of 
2700 is still like top 4k on the website tho
đeication
Aint that good or no
my highest rated blitz win is a 2800 Blitzstream
the 3000 guy that i beat was like number 34 in the world when i won
that s good
Man i got so much to learn about chess
Future me in a year am I 1000 elo yet?
the average person on chess.com is 600. that should tell you everything
I have played agadmator before and beat him,also chess network, Eric Rosen and king crusher
top 10 things that never happened
yeah i know him i see him floating around the top rankings a lot
Lichess buddy
does agad play a lot on lichess?
my statement still stands
Yeah, he is2400
You said the banned word in here, traitor
My highest rated wins were a few cheaters that I was able to abuse in bullet rated
there are people that are 3300+, me being 2300 i am top 10k almost. there are fking level to this shit
New gen
remember when you farmed spammer
any tips to get good
Quick question
first step is love the game
i do
Second step is hate the game
They play lichess tournaments occasionally
lol yeah idrc ab elo but like bro
I hear alot of chess players say they hate their elo
conpared to them it aint that good 😔
you like falling in reverse?
when i hit flow state on chess
i am never satisfied
it's like speaking a language fluently
i listen to it yeah
then does the rating even matter
nice did u go to their tour?
Man this is gonna be a long journey for me 😭
when i get complacent with my rating i drop 100+ points in 1 night
if i am harsh on myself i peak
100 points loss is how many losses in a row?
to be fair when you're in a flow state the rating is probably also going up
like 14-15
Damn
MOD
sup yall
yeah.. xd
yo how come im supressed?
but i guess a loss doesnt really piss me off that much
i dont only play for rating, but rating is nice when its high 
Im suprised they still rememebr me
If u were to start over from square 1, how would u get to where u are today?
Once I hit 2900 I will be the greatest of all time in my country
Your not an idiot if you realised it lmao, even if it took a bit
U gonna get there trust
Which country
yeah if I think I'm playing "good" chess (for my level) then I'm more likely to look at my losses seriously instead of just being annoyed
are you still in that chess cheating server
no
my highest rated win was a 2700 but i hate it because he misclicked and blundered his queen and then played the best move for 40 moves in a row and had a higher accuracy than i did (despite blundering a queen) and almost ran me out of time (despite blundering a queen)
hard to say, i started playing at 20 without ever touching a chessboard before, i think i am just naturaly gifted and perseverent
And how old are you now?
I'm curious, how many messages did you have this year
22
I always play vs people around my rating so I don't have high wins 💀
yeah
Someone give me that cheater bingo picture
impressive!
i started when i was 13
Like go to square 1, whats the fastest way u think u would get to 2300 again
i mean i have like 25k games so that might be something, this is the only thing i play
Holy 😭
I have like 180 games 🥺
This is why you are still 400 elo
prob study in an organised manner,i did a lot of binge watching and learned e4 without ever playing that. i am a d4 player
i have 16k on chesscom and 40k on lichess
On white right?
that s crazy
I'm 1306 vro, I just don't play online, I prefer grinding up my OTB
yeah
I went up 109 elo when my OTB elo updated
i mean it's over like almost 8 years so our amt of games/ year are approximately the same 😂
What opening do u think i should stick to for both white and black?
Proof? How do you castle OTB without touching the rook or the king, i tried to castle otb but when i moved my king, my rook just sits still
you can t really do that and be good. you have to learn real openings and then go into variaations. i recomand the queen s gambit for white and for black i play the sicilian and indian game
enough
not as bad as other people thankfully
You push the rook with the king for fancy effect
Oh my god vro
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And there is no sound effect when i got mated otb
the only openings you can play as both black/white are setup openings but for improvement I think you should play different
I only have 35k, pixel out here nearly doubling my messages
Hm how would i go about learning variations fast?
Hey man hru
Who is this
Hmm alr
I got my peak rating in all
Make the sound effects in your head
try lotus chess, its an app for openings and it s like 2 dollars a month
teepock
2 dollars huh
I joined 4 days ago
2 years i was only 2000 lichess bullet
Not bad
Ok
i use it a lot nowdays but it only teaches the opening not the middlegame ideas
the developers are both like 1900, i dont expect much from them
So just spam lotus and ill be good?
they did alright for the price
nah pm me i send you chessable course pgns for free 😂
you have to develop an obsession to be good
I think im obsessed
Lotus is good, chessbook I also like
not necessarily
puzzles dont really matter as a rating
usually yes
you should play rapid and focus on not making blunders
You just started today you said?
Me?
Me? No
obsession can mean faster improvement
Nvm then
I see
Yea
Is that you on pfp?
So what do you suggest i do to absorb variations of openings fast
No 😭
Mhm
Da baby
just don't learn theory
Whats that
Variations take time to absorb, cause variations can have variations within them
Holy
you'll have an easier time playing and improving without learning opening Theory
best feeling when u completly lost xD
Bro this game 😭
(personally speaking)
Please confirm coach @naive jackal
But how do i now know what to do exactly for my openings, like whats the best opening to play in a particular game?
Hollon w name
anyone tried coaching in circle chess?
Yess
experiment with different opening choices and choose the easiest opening for you
Ok so there isn’t a “best” per say. There are openings which are less optimal but even up till high gm level lots of openings are used
So never londons (pls say yes)
Hm ok
london is playable
Not sure, I haven’t played within d4 games
Hate that shit
JOBAVA London is
I’m an e4 player atm so most of my knowledge is there rn
hate it or not its playable
But generally boring
PYRAMID LONDON IS TRASH
Clash royale is more complex than chess
not funny
Fairs
I'm not trying to be funny
to many, yes.
I personally do not perfer it but I understand the appeal
I barely fight the London at my elo so I haven’t had to really study it
jobava london is good the pyramid version sucks
King pawn right?
Yea
Yup king pawn, as black I respond e5 to king pawn and play nf6 vs d4
The bridge method is so op rn
Perfect another point, how do i go about studying openings effectively
bro thinks it's clash royale
new clash royale update kinda clapped
Essentially it’s a mix of understanding the early tactical ideas which could happen in the opening and also the positional ideas both are trying to achieve along with pawn structures, each opening will require time spent within it to understand the variations you prefer properly
even more p2w lol
at least we get a hero
U should respect everyone opinion
hopefully i get hero mini pekka 😔
For studying openings don’t get too absorbed thinking only 1 move is correct, for engines sure maybe they prefer certain variants over others but at human level you should try to understand why the other moves can be chosen too
As ur saying i should do one opening and learn as many possible variations there is to my particular one or did i get it mixed up a bit
Not like we can just know oh they made mistake now we win, we still got to convert the advantage
































































1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nf6 3. Nxe5 Nxe4 4. Qe2 Nf6 5. Nc6+ Qe7 6. Nxe7 Bxe7 7. d4 Nd5 8. Bg5 h6 9. Bxe7 Nxe7 10. Nc3 O-O 11. Qxe7 Nc6 12. Qe4 d6 13. d5 Na5 14. b4 f5 15. Qd3 Re8+ 16. Be2 Rxe2+ 17. Qxe2 f4 18. bxa5 f3 19. Qe8+ Kh7 20. Qe4+ Bf5 21. Qxf5+ g6 22. Qxf3 Re8+ 23. Ne4 Rxe4+ 24. Qxe4 c6 25. dxc6 b6 26. c7 b5 27. Qe7+ Kg8 28. c8=Q#
True
Halo
honestly Ive never lost a game to one
Yea, but don’t go too deep into variations, there comes a point you’re learning variations you won’t play for a long while
So maybe like 2 or 3
Understand the ideas from the variations
*colle
Like why is this variation making the game different?
*stonewall
I see
just learn one and screw around
Im taking as much info as i possibly can rn this is interesting 😭
Will try
dont learn sicillian unless you want to suffer 🗣️ 🔥
Najdorf 🥺
Cell, for example my fav opening is the Italian, within that I prefer the pianissimo, and within that slow positional opening lots of moves can happen in different orders, so memorizing moves isn’t as good as understanding both players ideas during the opening imo
I did a manual check and from all the servers I'm in right now I have 62087 messages sent since jan 1st 2025
i learned it I suffered but I gained some elo too

bleh theory
irl you have to choose a bus to hop onto( that s choosing the opening), then you have to choose a specific number bus( that s a variation) then those specific bussed have a route, the stops are variations inside variations
CB sentencing me to learn it as a 1300
🥀
So like you can predict what they may do right?
I'm gonna actually try and learn it after my classical games are over
You can, but also to know if they don’t do it what they’re losing position wise
Love that explanation actually
Sometimes by knowing what they should’ve done and didn’t you can start guessing moves that are prob better for you now
should we tell him about transpotions ?
No
?
GO LEARN NAJDORF
every single variations
Too much for my level rn orrrrr
After my classical tournament, if I try and learn another opening rn I'll forget everything else
Transpositions, essentially some openings can become other openings with some move order changes
Only early on tho
So like for example (not saying its possible) londons can turn into itallians?
Alapin can become french tarrasch
No cause London is from a d4 start whilst Italian comes from e4 games
then you have specific pawn structures in certain openings and that can decide the games
No like ik it aint possible
this is kinda great
Just like assuming it is
kind of , like how the d4 openings can turn into a benoni
Benoni?
benoni defence, a very anyoing responso for black, starts after d4 and black can force you into it most times
baloney
Hm alr
Like uhh, e4 e6 d4 d5 is French defense, but e4 e6 nc3 c5 turns into Sicilian, so at times changes can go into diff openings
bad boy only learn najdorf variations
everything else is illegal
sicilian dragon is superior , change my mind
So obviously u suggest i take this all slow so i dont burn out
But how could i know all of this efficiently
I'll replace my caro with Najdorf when I've fully learned it
Yup Ofc, that’s why don’t try to cram variations instead just enjoy and learn chess at a pace you find good
you will eventually, try playing for fun but also watch educational content
Oh boy..
@idle wasp what do you do against yugoslav 🙏
But how can i know all u you as fast as possible
allat learning just to get hit with 3. Bc4 4. e5 😂 ✌️
at below 500 rating your biggest concern should be to not blunder pieces
Makes sense
suicide
I'll js learn it vro
vro gives up against yugoslav 🙏
just play hungarian dragon smh smh
from someone who has played e4 for maybe 5% of his games I find the rapport dragon annoying
dont know what that is
i hate it , i prefer open sicilians
you go h5 Bh6 and trades off the bishop
i dont play e4 at all 🙏
dodges yugoslav
I played chess when I was a kid for around 2 years so I lost a lot and saw a lot of variations just from playing without any focus as a kid, now that I’m older and I restarted 6 months ago ish I’m focusing on learning a little bit more each day which adds up over a months time
these theory tryhards 💔
yeah hungarian because rapport is hungarian (controversial)
i never understand anything you say
So in summary just play a shit ton?
search the croatian pen!s and balls openings, best begginer choice
problem of you
I barely play now, but early on yes you should play a lot to see variations firsthand and play through them
you need to remember TWO moves cb and you get an easy position
sorry for not learning theory
you consider this a theory nerd but not some guy who tries to refute yugoslav playing 12 moves down the theory 💔
How would i know how to not mess uo next time, just put it in an engine?
I consider it doing well
@cloud cypress i am not even joking, there is actuallty an opening named like that
Ur kidding
is this invis alt
where are you from
mars
asking bc i see asia
im no longer in asia was in japan
shiet
What type of game am i getting into dawg 
Putting in engine gives answer immediately yes, but first try doing it manually, review the game and try to think where it started going wrong for players then engine after to see if you were right and if you weren’t what you didn’t think of
Based on numerous studies in chess specifically in openings, it is fundamental to learn at least one opening theory once you reach a 1K rating. 78.3% of participants in the study found that understanding one chess opening theory was highly likely to be instrumental in improving their chess skills. @broken flower
i thought yugoslav is just f3
ahh cool
yeah
good guess
have you played shogi before
thats one move vro 😡😡😡😡
its the move that starts it
tried but i suck so i quit basically
Ah I see
ok dude we know you just remember one move
its not invis
and freestyle
i have a frd who moved from japan to UK for work but basically hes a shogi grandmaster, switched to chess now is 2000 fide after 2 years of chess
Last question, what engine can I use
apparently thats quite common with japanese chess players
Reason for not doing engine first imo, with engine you’ll get answer but your brain loses the thought process development by a bit imo
yeah it is the traditional route
how do you know who that is o_O
Rewrite this without using chatgpt
I thought an engine was a think that helps you know what u did wronv
The lichess analysis is good enough imo, you can def try getting a better stockfish or try Leela but honestly they all better than humans anyways so all are strong
a famous fm in our nation akira wakanabe is also a shogi player who later tried chess and became titled
I remember a shogi master defeating a British grandmaster in chess once iirc
It's not ChatGPT’d
Lichess got it
Sounds like an ai would say
do u know shinya kojima
you shouldve gotten good at shogi 🙏
One of the three IMs in Japan yeah
Research on chess openings consistently shows that once players reach a 1000 rating, it becomes essential to study at least one opening system. In fact, 78.3% of participants in the study reported that learning a single opening theory significantly contributed to their improvement in overall chess performance,
Yes, but you have to recall before engines there were super strong players too, they had to manually find answer or read through books or something, just cause we have the immediate answer now doesn’t mean we should neglect the thinking proccess which could lead to the same answer
i played him otb last year
You are using grok
oh the im?
I wrote and published at least 3 research papers in psychology
ik he also plays shogi
he tweeted that my opening prep is dangerous : ) although i lost like an idiot
Very true
ye
Awesome, have you played the other IMs like Nanjo Ryosuke and Tran Thanh Tu yet?
you only need one opening after getting past 1000 elo
Talking about lichess @grave hamlet
can you send me where this research comes from
nanjo ryosuke was at the same tournament but he quit after losing to a 2000 rated chinese 12 year old lmao
i cant im just not built for it
🥀
ive played nanjo ryosuke twice online
Did you win
lost both lol i wanted to rematch he declined
Yo I defeated him a couple days ago lol
epic
You can look it up on the Trust Me Bro journal of academic research
the chess world is a small place
It’s cause like, I use engine too, but I use it to look at pawn structures, for example I love my Italian, within it there are certain timings to push side pawns and without those timings doing so would lead to diff pawn structure and piece positions according to what engine would think is correct
lmao
i won though so now its a big food chain circle
When you get to about 1000 rating in chess, you kinda need to know at least one opening. A study said like 78% of people thought learning one opening helped them get better at chess.
Can i see?
@broken flower I asked Copilot to rewrite it dumbed down. How does this one sound
but it actually feels so special to me that like
maybe 30% of the time i play online ive seen my opponent before
Btw here's proof
good shit
to be honest, the "like" seems misplaced
but i think this confirms ai thinks humans are dumb
i don't think ai thinks actually
Well, the dumb humans are typically the ones asking ai to write stuff for them
ai isn't capable of thinking at the moment
Crazy
You will see my last name.
yes it is
nah
Depends on how you define thinking.
imo AI rn is just a gigantic filter of generic info
YOU THINK BILLION DOLLAR CORPORATIONS ARE GONNA RELEASE NEWFOUND TECHNOLOGY? THE AI WE'RE USING WAS PROBABLY INVENTED IN THE 80s. GUARANTEE YOU THE SECRET AI TECH THE GOVERNMENT HAS LOCKED UP CAN DEFINITELY THINK ON ITS OWN
ts guy thinks self reacting is tuff
Does vro have any proof this exists other than distrust in corporations
This guy thinks ts means this
nah hes just calling you this shit guy
You're one to talk about distrust. THE CIA ENDED YOU
RIP JFK
i dont i mean what i said
what does jfk even do
You completely disregarded what I said in favour of a more dumbass response vro
did he even do anything
u know what its actually not the same chinese kid
Bay of Pigs.
You can't use dumbass and vro in the same sentence.
but its another chinese kid at the same tournament and he was 1800 performed at 2300
you seem like a knowledgeable person
You just did, and so did I
Don't people learn that in like middle school?
oh.
We got a comedian over here
i'm not american buddy
Where were you born
the only joke here is you buddy 💔
born in south korea, educated in singapore
Okay but where are you a citizen
singapore
D WADE AND LEGOAT
@quasi nova go learn more najdorf before i make you learn grunfeld theory
Learning the sicilian is harder
anyone else doing advent of chess?
dont know what that is
What is that?
its cool but all the top submissions are AI i would guess
he he he haw
Oh, sounds stupid.
i mean you don't need to be fast unless you want the stars
Grunfeld seems easier then Najdorf vro
lmao why
and ruy lopez*
nah the problems are really cool
I'm sorry
anything with indian's is harder to learn than any other opening
im not sure chatgpt is actually good at puzzles like these lol
except for the benoni defense
and svesh 🙏
im pretty sure some people are just insane because they do it a lot
can't think of any other way people are solving those within 1 minute
under 1 minute like you can barely get a chatgpt response
People will simply cheat to solve the puzzles and enter the giveaway.
I'll go do puzzles instead
no vro learn this 🥺🥺🥺
ok like the giveaway is a thing because assios is hosting and he knows magnus but the point is the puzzles imo
if you wanna cheat ok who cares really the chance of winning the board is miniscule anyway
??
Do I have cataract or is the quality ass
you have cataract
Aw shucks 😔
still doesn't make any sense to me. tell it to explain it to a 1 year old
pretty sure you can get really good at these puzzles if you just do them a lot
and theres a small community of people who love these lol
ig so
@chrome latch Why does this post have so many clown emojis? Is there some controversy I don't know about
just zoom in vro
but im sure there are cheaters too
Seeing AI used for normal things is weird, i spent last night with friends just terrorising AI bots
Fk no
Zoom in vro
I zoomed in and it was 2 pixels per maybe
¯_(ツ)_/¯
bruh
i love how for the grand prix its only the schofman
nothing else matters
Don't worry guys I zoomed in
Need a new phone cuh
Or better internet, either either
get a pc cuh
I'm Broke ahh cuh