💬〡chess-talk

[cold summit]

Huh

[patent patrol]

I got like 1 $20 board and another $20 board

[sudden roost]

a love struck girl?

pls get the ref

[kindred crypt]

Ya

[mint citrus]

ill take it for free as always

[unique ledge]

ok

[cold summit]

Stuck?

[sudden roost]

struck i meant

[cold summit]

🤔

Use reasoning

[raven sinew]

Im lmfao

[kindred crypt]

lover girl yeah

[cold summit]

L benoni

[haughty root]

@kindred crypt dms g

[patent patrol]

ChatGPT describe the reasoning behind the first 8 moves of Kalashnikov Sicilian theory in a non stereotypical Jamaican accent

[frosty peak]

<:profile:1016802308278976642> Gulabi 47 (gulabichess)

This is the Chess.com profile of gulabichess. Take a look!

<:endgames:1016772673965137962> Information

Name: Gulabi 47 (gulabichess)
Premium Member: False
Moderator or Staff: False
Streamer: False

<:Rated:1016802315937775657> Ratings

Rapid: 616 (peak)
Blitz: 470 (520 peak)
Bullet: 517 (580 peak)

[mint citrus]

dang this isn't too bad

[pale pollen]

go buy chatgpt team and ask chatgpt 5 pro

[kindred crypt]

@haughty root see a gm

[cold summit]

Team gets access to pro?

[pale pollen]

I should buy team I'm on plus

[pale pollen]

now yes

[raven sinew]

Not a benoni

[kindred crypt]

@haughty root he too has gm tag but ain't one

[cold summit]

Cancel and buy gemini, Google gonna win the AI race I have money on it

[sudden roost]

bard ai

[raven sinew]

Gemini is my go to

[sudden roost]

who is gemini

its BARD

[kindred crypt]

are you a gemini? im a libra

[cold summit]

Probably a meh question then

😂

[cold summit]

Send the question here

[patent patrol]

Ai users will do anything besides admit it kinda sucks sometimes

[sudden roost]

leo actually ☝️

[unique ledge]

food

[mint citrus]

I GO T NITRO

[cold summit]

Did you see the goofs who were crying about 4o being taken away

[haughty root]

ok word

[cold summit]

These beautiful women dating chatgpt bruh

[pale pollen]

ok idc lmao

[haughty root]

Those be scaring me, lol I’m good but not that good

[sudden roost]

leos are the best trust

not bias at all

[cold summit]

Did you guys know that some women actually believe in astrology 💀

[kindred crypt]

yeah everything is smooth rn

[haughty root]

do you have a sister name samantha😭

[kindred crypt]

Whom

[limpid viper]

chatgpt is quite an attractive young gentleman who could blame them

[sudden roost]

no i dont

[cold summit]

I guess it's not that different from religion

[kindred crypt]

whens your birthday?

[limpid viper]

mfs after doing no research and just asking chatgpt

[kindred crypt]

so i can greet u

[sudden roost]

aug 1st

[unique ledge]

It isn't, they believe in the "universe" and "manifestation"

[cold summit]

Manifest queen!

[sudden roost]

when urs

[kindred crypt]

wow mine is october 1st. like omg the firts

[cold summit]

um acktually I use "Deep Research"!

[kindred crypt]

belated happy birthday!

[sudden roost]

thanks you

[patent patrol]

It sucks in assistance to nursing and medical professions it’s not specific enough and also I’ve noticed chess and math

[sudden roost]

BlushCat

[limpid viper]

guys i may have no idea what im talking about but gemini said this is true

[unique ledge]

manifest a higher IQ Queen!

[cold summit]

AI beats docs in diagnosing, give it a few years it will cook up

[sudden roost]

literally twins

[patent patrol]

No it doesn’t not at all

[pale pollen]

chopin is not bad tho, I listen to him

[cold summit]

Did you see the mai-dxd study?

[patent patrol]

May as well use WebMD

[limpid viper]

yea you can't really rely on it sucks that too many people do though and they act like nobody can know better

[haughty root]

thts my b i had a previous ex but you look dead like her sister thought i was tripping

[patent patrol]

Can a robot take ur temperature

[cold summit]

Did you see the study where it beat docs at both diagnosing and empathy?

[cold summit]

A nurse can

[limpid viper]

i beat ai at ragebaiting

[patent patrol]

So ai doctors real nurse

[cold summit]

Why pay docs 300k a year if a nurse + ai can do the job

[patent patrol]

Sounds like someone don’t undastand healthcare

[cold summit]

Enlighten me king

[sudden roost]

bc nurses and ai cant do a doctors job

[kindred crypt]

bro sent me like a gif with "i wanna be yours" song and i was like awwwwww

[sudden roost]

atleast not fully yet

[unique ledge]

if you're able to inject yourself, you're good to go

[cold summit]

Not yet

[cold summit]

🤔

[kindred crypt]

https://tenor.com/view/jaxson-dart-ole-miss-ole-miss-football-college-football-cfb-gif-16871917317851949386

[patent patrol]

Because doctors are trained in 8 years of school and understand contempt and reasoning way more than robots do at any level

[cold summit]

Ok I disagree, wanna discuss

[patent patrol]

Also it’s much more physical than that

[cold summit]

It's more than 8 years btw in america

[nimble badge]

is g3 a good move🤔

[patent patrol]

It can be 6 years in America

That’s a diff point

[cold summit]

4 years undergrad 4 years med school 3-8 years residency

Anyway irrelevant yeah

[sudden roost]

the most doctotery thing ai will ever do is prob looking at medical history

[cold summit]

Okay so what do you mean by 'reasoning'?

[patent patrol]

Ai diagnosis is literally webmd lol

[cold summit]

Are you a doc?

[pale pollen]

AI team

[patent patrol]

Uhhh a doctor knows you and your history and has usually ur file and already knows you and what you deal with for starters

[patent patrol]

I am a nurse in an ICU

[cold summit]

Your job is safe, at least much safer than the rest

[unique ledge]

I wouldn't say it is since people stumble across webmd pages simply because theres a word match
AI would play 21 questions though

[cold summit]

Okay none of that is reasoning tho

[patent patrol]

Robot don’t know it doctor can reason with it tho

[cold summit]

People say 'AI can't reason' when it's getting gold models on international math olympiad

"It's just predicting the next word" okay well if it can predict my diagnosis then give it to it

[patent patrol]

Yeah but I think diagnosis is much more of a case studies thing than that lol

Not in real life

[cold summit]

Did you see the Mai-dxd study

[unique ledge]

Isn't math more logic than reasoning

[cold summit]

AI outperformed doctors by 4x on complex real case studies from new england medical journal

[balmy python]

Knowing how human doctors are i hardly believe ai can be much worse 😂

[pale pollen]

haha what a joke, Chatgpt already made me a tic tac toe, a flappy bird, a connect 4, a sudoku and more... AI will come to chess eventually and I estimate this to NEXT YEAR

[spring lion]

☠️

[cold summit]

Granted this is perfect conditions, but AI is on an exponential

[patent patrol]

Bro are yall real

[cold summit]

Alphazero

[cold summit]

https://microsoft.ai/new/the-path-to-medical-superintelligence/

[sudden roost]

ai will never take over healthcare jobs

[cold summit]

Can you read this and tell me what you think?

[balmy python]

[unique ledge]

I wonder if ChatGPT is a Taurus 😩

[sudden roost]

maybe in like 2000 years where robots rule

[cold summit]

engage with the arguments then

[pale pollen]

Ik I mean to explain with text every move and analyse as a coach

[sudden roost]

ok where are we at

[pale pollen]

he is born in November

[haughty root]

Homelander wasn’t currently able to play. Anybody wanted to run it up.

[unique ledge]

What does that make bro, idk my signs, Im a fraud 😩

[cold summit]

AI is already better at diagnosing in some studies given good conditions, linked one above

[tawdry mango]

unfortunately not. i played 9 games against this dude and they left when i was about to adopt them which invalidates my existence

[patent patrol]

I think medical researchers ran the experiment with doctors in assistance 😂😂

[cold summit]

AI diagnosed at 80% accuracy while docs got 20%

[pale pollen]

lol

[sudden roost]

diagnoses in what

[haughty root]

1 min nah ur him

[cold summit]

Do you want to read the study or should I get chatgpt to summarize it

[unique ledge]

Send the study

[tawdry mango]

definitely not something anyone who beats their mentors would say

[cold summit]

Up above

[sudden roost]

only actual diagnoses i can really see them do is like radiology or smth

[haughty root]

^^

[pale pollen]

I played 10 random bullets the other day, won 9 and drew 1

[sudden roost]

cuz apparently they are good at that

[patent patrol]

WTF

[cold summit]

Microsoft introduces the AI Diagnostic Orchestrator (MAI-DxO)—an advanced AI system mimicking a collaborative panel of clinicians by coordinating multiple AI agents, each tasked with hypothesis generation, test selection, and diagnosis. It was evaluated using 304 complex case studies from the New England Journal of Medicine via the newly developed “Sequential Diagnosis” benchmark, designed to emulate real-world clinical reasoning (e.g., asking follow-up questions, ordering tests step-by-step). MAI-DxO, especially when paired with OpenAI’s o3 model, achieved diagnostic accuracy of up to 85%, which is more than four times higher than the ~20% accuracy of generalist physicians in the same scenario. Additionally, the orchestrator maintained cost-efficiency by choosing high-value tests, outperforming both human clinicians and standalone models
Microsoft AI
+1
Digital Health Wire
.

Microsoft frames this as a meaningful stride toward “medical superintelligence”, emphasizing the system’s ability to think like a clinician—reasoning through uncertainty, integrating information, and making cost-effective decisions. As part of Microsoft’s expanding health efforts (including tools like RAD-DINO for radiology and Dragon Copilot for clinician support), MAI-DxO reflects a move beyond benchmark exams toward assessing true clinical reasoning. While the results are promising, Microsoft acknowledges the work is in early stages—it has not undergone peer review, lacks real-world validation, and is not yet ready for clinical deployment

[sudden roost]

boi

[patent patrol]

THEY TESTED 21 HUMAN DOCTORS IN Accordance to the robot.

[cold summit]

gpt

[patent patrol]

😭

[sudden roost]

what the helly is ts

[haughty root]

dam i take back my compliment then😒

[patent patrol]

21 Random human doctors with 5-20 years of medical experience

[unique ledge]

Benchmarked against real-world case records published each week in the New England Journal of Medicine, we show that the Microsoft AI Diagnostic Orchestrator (MAI-DxO) correctly diagnoses up to 85% of NEJM case proceedings, a rate more than four times higher than a group of experienced physicians. MAI-DxO also gets to the correct diagnosis more cost-effectively than physicians.
@patent patrol LOOOOOOOOL

[patent patrol]

So 20 shit doctors??

[spring lion]

Wow 🤯

[haughty root]

OHHH WHEN I SAY MENTORS I MEAN FOR ORGANIC DROPSHIPPING

[cold summit]

20 randomly selected docs = shit docs

[haughty root]

my b for the confusion

[pale pollen]

wild

[balmy python]

Most people only have access to shit doctors so that pretty relevant

[cold summit]

Yeah I'm sure they selected the worst docs they could find for the study bro

[patent patrol]

Why not choose a higher selection of good doctors relative to a place like idk the mayo clinic

[pale pollen]

better than losing on time

[patent patrol]

21 is a very small number

[unique ledge]

nah, you can't just jump to this conclusion

[patent patrol]

For random United Kingdom doctors bro

[sudden roost]

what was the case

cuz they were all generalists not specialist

[cold summit]

I'm being sarcastic blud

[sudden roost]

and thats like 0.01 of the doctor population

[cold summit]

And that's just one study, there are more, I'll send some

[patent patrol]

U can let ai be ur doctor if u want bruh

[unique ledge]

oh, I didn't see his comment

[patent patrol]

I’m just saying this study is heavily biased towards the robot

20 human doctors doesn’t even populate a medium sized city

[unique ledge]

Ik there's people out there who'd be willing to be the frontline for having AI Doctors

I'll be chlling in the back until it gets optimized

[cold summit]

You can say that this one study does not heavily change your mind, but it's intellectualy dishonest to not let this update you at least slightly towards my position

[iron crypt]

yo guys check this game of blunders lol https://www.chess.com/game/live/141736204390?move=0

[patent patrol]

I don’t think HIPPA would let it happen

[frosty peak]

tianyuanuwu (1867) vs. 29docholliday (1885)

Move List

1. d4 Nf6 2. Nf3 e6 3. c4 c5 4. g3 cxd4 5. Nxd4 Be7 6. Bg2 O-O 7. Nc3 a6 8. e4 Qc7 9. O-O Qxc4 10. e5 Ne8 11. Ne4 Nc6 12. Nxc6 bxc6 13. Be3 Qb5 14. f4 Qxb2 15. Qg4 Qa3 16. Bd2 d5 17. f5 dxe4 18. Bh6 Qc5+ 19. Kh1 Qxe5 20. Bxe4 Bb7 21. Rae1 Rb8 22. fxe6 Qb2 23. Rxf7 Rxf7 24. exf7+ Kxf7 25. Rf1+ Kg8 26. Qf5 Nf6 27. Qe6+ Kh8 28. Bxg7+ Kxg7 29. Qxe7+ Kh8 30. Rxf6 Qc1+ 31. Kg2 Qd2+ 32. Kh3 Bc8+ 33. Bf5 Bxf5+ 34. Rxf5 Qh6+ 35. Kg2 Qd2+ 36. Rf2 Qd5+ 37. Kh3 Qh5+ 38. Kg2 Qd5+ 39. Kg1 Rb1+ 40. Rf1 Qd4+ 41. Kg2 Rb2+ 42. Kh3 Rb8 43. Rf8+ 

[sudden roost]

also doctors do a lot more than just diagnoses

[patent patrol]

Yea but im a nurse and so I know what’s more realistic

[cold summit]

https://arxiv.org/abs/2507.22902
"A multi-agent, end-to-end AI doctor—Doctronic—was compared to board-certified clinicians across 500 real-world telehealth encounters. The AI’s top diagnosis matched clinicians in 81% of cases, and treatment plans aligned in 99.2% of instances. In discordant reviews, AI performance was judged superior 36.1% of the time versus 9.3% for humans"

[pale pollen]

Ik

[patent patrol]

500 real world Telehealth encounters

Video call diagnoses?

Give me a break dude

[cold summit]

What evidence would change your mind?

[patent patrol]

Show me a study relative to good doctors like the Mayo Clinic or John Hopkins university

[cold summit]

https://arxiv.org/abs/2505.20609
A real-time diagnostic interface powered by an LLM was tested on 10 simulated internal medicine cases based on USMLE Step 2 CS-style exams. The AI correctly identified the first differential diagnosis in 80% of cases (versus 50–70% for physicians) and reached 100% accuracy by the second differential (physicians ranged 70–90%). It also worked faster (by ~45%) and at dramatically lower cost—98% less expensive than physician-driven diagnosis

[cold summit]

Why would it have to beat the best docs in the world, just needs to be good enough and cheap

[pale pollen]

but maybe we will need less doctors since currents will work faster with ai

[patent patrol]

Its the best ai available why not compare it to best doctors

[nimble badge]

Anyone trying to coach me on my opening?

[cold summit]

Oh yeah btw MCAT and USMLE exams are cooked, AI wins

[patent patrol]

Otherwise I could compare gpt to real doctors

[unique ledge]

You need to present a study where the background checks of the selected doctors are in full display for @patent patrol to first be convinced of the legitamacy of the study. Then he'll need to be convinced of the study itself

[pale pollen]

AI will also take care of people so yeah less people who need doctors

[cold summit]

People are not choosing either AI or the best docs in the world

[patent patrol]

Seems like they’re choosing doctors

[haughty root]

if anybody wants to play just DM me but tomorrow after my gym session, I’ll definitely be down to play anybody for practice a bit longer rather than just bets

[patent patrol]

Are u genuinely disagreeing here

[cold summit]

They're not juicing it to find the worst docs in the world bruh

[nimble badge]

why the heck are yall talking about ai and docters

[patent patrol]

I wanted u to find me a study that compared it to such

[balmy python]

What % of americans do you think actually gets to choose their doctor? Most of us are forced to go to whatever one accepts our insurance

[patent patrol]

Instead of like video calls or 20 doxtora

[patent patrol]

I chose my doctor

U just have to schedule appointment

[haughty root]

big fax

[patent patrol]

😂

[unique ledge]

Yes, you're jumping to conclusions and not bothering to seek out the legitimacy of the study. You're not digging, you're jumping

[patent patrol]

Dudes here have never touched a hospital

[pale pollen]

let's go finaly done damn

[haughty root]

it’s not that hard if u just try

[patent patrol]

I read the entire study and I work in a hospital

It was tested on 20 random human doctors not even all from the United atates

Did u read that I bet not

[cold summit]

https://mayoclinic.elsevierpure.com/en/publications/diagnostic-accuracy-of-artificial-intelligence-in-virtual-primary
Diagnostic Accuracy of Artificial Intelligence in Virtual Primary Care (Mayo Clinic Proceedings: Digital Health, Dec 2023)

This study evaluated over 102,000 virtual primary care visits where an AI-driven medical interview generated differential diagnoses, which were then reviewed by clinicians. The top AI-provided diagnosis was adopted by providers in 60.9% of encounters. For nearly half the cases (47%), provider–AI agreement on the diagnosis exceeded 95%, and for 69%, it was 90% or higher. Retrospective adjudication showed that the AI’s differential included the correct diagnosis 100% of the time among the cases reviewed. Moreover, AI diagnostic accuracy improved further with model retraining—from 96.6% to 98.0%.
Mayo Clinic

This highlights AI’s ability not only to match but to significantly support clinical decision-making across a broad range of primary care conditions.

[haughty root]

mane i wish i could have that name tag color everywhere😒

[cold summit]

um acktually I was born in one

[sudden roost]

how can ai even perform an exam

[azure pivot]

Imagine not having free health care

[pale pollen]

who made this? Me with chatgpt !!

[patent patrol]

Their argument is the ai is allowed to order tests through nurses

[unique ledge]

screw you bro, I gave you free nitro and you diss me like this

[patent patrol]

But not all nurses can do specific tests without doctors

[haughty root]

interesting question

[patent patrol]

So it confuses me here

[azure pivot]

Ngl your country is shit no health care is insane

[pale pollen]

I wonder when lichess will have AI?

[unique ledge]

I cant disagree 😔

[patent patrol]

LOL

[cold summit]

Allowed right now is not what we're talking about, we're talking about if AI will have the capability to do an average doctor's job

[haughty root]

thts my goto

[patent patrol]

So they used AI in assistance?

[cold summit]

Only for the studies because I'm not reading allat

[kindred crypt]

next month, my nitro will expire

[patent patrol]

I’m fine with this I just don’t think it should replace doctors

[unique ledge]

You're high maintenance, you like that $10 nitro

[cold summit]

Imagine that in the future we had an LLM that could correctly diagnose 10x better than the average doctor across all cases. What happens then?

[kindred crypt]

1 year sub, yeah

[patent patrol]

Doctor can use it

[haughty root]

girl said I was scared earlier😭 what’s ur highest elo miss

[cold summit]

Who employs the doctor

[patent patrol]

Hospital

[cold summit]

Why?

[kindred crypt]

im wasting my time talking to u

[haughty root]

bffr

[patent patrol]

Medical assistance will never be electronic

[balmy python]

🧢

[haughty root]

dam whatever strokes ur ego ig

[cold summit]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kALDN4zIBT0
Pediatric nephrologist saying this btw

I can chatgpt the transcript if you want

[patent patrol]

Pediatric nephrologist

Kids doctor

[cold summit]

correct, that is what I said

[patent patrol]

I don’t think a pediatric nephrologist a children’s kidney doctor holds as much weight as a general physicians opinion

[cold summit]

If he was a regular nephrologist you're not gonna care anyway, engage with the arguments

[balmy python]

You guys throw out the word “never” a lot lol, in a fast growing field like ai the advancements are happening so fast that things that seem inconceivable today are gonna be reality in the coming decades

[patent patrol]

regular nephrologist I would take more seriously because older people are more likely to have kidney problems

😭

[brisk panther]

What you said before @sudden roost ?

[cold summit]

When a child has a kidney problem wouldn't that mean something abnormal is happening

[sudden roost]

ai can help doctors, but it can’t replace the trust, empathy, judgment, and hands on care that only humans provide.

[cold summit]

Nurses can do that

[patent patrol]

Not even entirely

[cold summit]

No need to pay a doc 500k a year when a nurse and an AI can do the job

[unique ledge]

AI is being refined on a monthly basis gradually
At the rate technology is improving, I doubt AI Docs won't end up in hospitals

[sudden roost]

are the nurses gonna be doing surgeries too

[brisk panther]

we are cook

[patent patrol]

Yea but a children’s nephrologist is a silly person to be saying it

[cold summit]

Imagine we had an AI that COULD do the job of a doctor competently. Just humor me for a second. What happens then?

[cold summit]

Surgeons are 15% of doctors

[patent patrol]

We have ai that does the jobs of lawyers

[unique ledge]

You guys should VC

& talk about it there

& I listen to the chaos :>

[sudden roost]

yeah?

so?

[cold summit]

Then I have to connect my account 😢

[sudden roost]

we need surgeons

[cold summit]

So we're not talking about surgeons

[patent patrol]

We still have lawyers

[patent patrol]

LOL

[balmy python]

for now

[cold summit]

AI is not as good as a lawyer yet

[sudden roost]

surgeons are doctors

[patent patrol]

Ok talk about specialized health professions then

[cold summit]

Surgeons will not be replaced soon

[patent patrol]

When does Ai get better than a cardiologist but not a neurologist

[haughty root]

Real talk, why are we talking about doctors? This is interesting but still.😭

[cold summit]

Let's start with radiology

[brisk panther]

Maybe psychologue ?

[patent patrol]

Radiology is pretty objective

[cold summit]

Imagine an AI that is at least good enough that AI + doctor is not as good as AI. Then what happens?

[sudden roost]

how about emergency medicine

[cold summit]

Stockfish + me is not as good as just stockfish

[patent patrol]

Bad example

[turbid bolt]

AI can't replace any job rn

[cold summit]

Lots of artists crying rn

[haughty root]

programmers….

[brisk panther]

Real

[cold summit]

Lots of junior cs grads crying rn

[haughty root]

i could name 100

[brisk panther]

Nah

[patent patrol]

Then I guess ppl will die a lot earlier on average

[cold summit]

Artists go on tiktok and cry about it, look it out

[patent patrol]

Until u show me ai is that good

[haughty root]

homie i’ve seen it happen

[jovial wind]

Give it a few years

[patent patrol]

So far we have doctors or studies u show me that use ai in assistance to research

[haughty root]

I think y’all are underestimating how advanced AI is currently compared to low level skill workers

[cold summit]

In the long term, nothing. In the short term, robotics is lagging behind digital jobs

[turbid bolt]

I said "rn"

[brisk panther]

Then why company recrut human programmers?

[patent patrol]

Like doctors?

[cold summit]

Politicians, prostitutes, priests are safe jobs

[haughty root]

Money

[sudden roost]

low level skill workers

[cold summit]

Maybe not prostitutes when elon comes out with sexbots

[haughty root]

there free

[patent patrol]

Chess.com chat geeked asf

[brisk panther]

[cold summit]

Geoff Hinton, Godfather of AI: "I would tell my kids to be a plumber"

[haughty root]

i mean shii what that netflix show cyberpunk edgerunners

[sudden roost]

how did we go from ai doctors to

[patent patrol]

How about when ai gets so advanced it replaces toilets?

[cold summit]

Would you agree that CS is a bad major rn

[haughty root]

i’m sayin😭

[unique ledge]

something that can bring peace to these two keyboard warriors?

[patent patrol]

Relative to a couple years prior it’s worse

[turbid bolt]

AI can't program rn, just some simple stuff

[cold summit]

AI writes over 50% of google's code btw

[haughty root]

but all jokes aside, I’ve seen it happen on multiple occasions but careers like doctors will end up being one of the last to get mostly replaced by AI

[jovial wind]

Ofc it is, they hyped up the industry years ago, now ai will take over it and too much people doing it

[patent patrol]

Computer science was flooded by people who heard it was a high paying major and then ai came out and they tried using it in assistance and a lot of ppl got caught

[brisk panther]

The only thing ai can'tdo is playing chess normaly I think

[haughty root]

in my defense i said low level

[patent patrol]

So now cs majors are either really good in high demand high supply or dropped out already

[cold summit]

No bro

[sudden roost]

i quizzed chatgpt on basic medical terminology and it got a bunch of them wrong

[young swan]

hi guys

[sudden roost]

CNASim_tired

[cold summit]

They are not getting jobs

[patent patrol]

I promise u it’ll never be specific enough in terms of what healthcare is asking of u

For medical terminology it could

But like actual medical processes helll na never

[cold summit]

Chat will ai ever surpass humans at math

[jovial wind]

Never? Less than 10 years

[cold summit]

It's already proved an unproven conjecture

[pale pollen]

🫩

[sudden roost]

prob

[unique ledge]

Yes

[pale pollen]

discord doesn't support the emoji damn

[cold summit]

Much better than me at math

[turbid bolt]

nohello.net

[sudden roost]

hello

[haughty root]

you got plus?

[sudden roost]

no

[pale pollen]

Noches

[sudden roost]

im not paying for chatgpt

[nimble arch]

hi'=--==

[haughty root]

try it on that it’s way different

[patent patrol]

Ai which chamber of the heart not pumping blood based off these lab results 🤔🗣️ WRONG ANSWER CONFIDENTLY non researched people: Wow….

[pale pollen]

lmao it's worth it

[pale pollen]

yes yes and yes

[haughty root]

Like I said y’all are underestimating how advanced AI is compared to low average workers

[patent patrol]

Many such cases!

[cold summit]

Philosophy+ a science because by the time I graduate either AI takes over, or it's not that big of a deal and I can just go to grad school or something

[haughty root]

AMENNN

[patent patrol]

Philosophy isn’t a real major anyways

[pale pollen]

YUP

[patent patrol]

Ur job is already done by robots

[haughty root]

goated it’s better then grok in my opinion

[patent patrol]

McDonald’s got machines now

[cold summit]

yeah philosophy will also be replaced

[jovial wind]

U really don't think it'll be able to read lab results as good as a human in 10 years? Ai is rapidly advancing like chat gpt is only 3 years old or something

[brisk panther]

Yes you are right but I think psychology remplace philosophy

[cold summit]

When you have a machine that is smarter than you in every way then just ask it what's the meaning of life 💀

[pale pollen]

study philosophy to learn how to think and well ask things to AI LMAO

[patent patrol]

Two diff things

[cold summit]

Philosophy bc it's fun not for the job

[patent patrol]

Psychology a robot could probably never do either

Too intricate

[cold summit]

Do you think an AI can do math, an area with verifiable answers so it's easy for reinforcement learning?

[patent patrol]

I think it’s good in assistance and relatively that’s what it would be practical for but these ppl believe in much more of a fairy tale thing than I do as an actual healthcare worker

[brisk panther]

Is saying sociology is different to social psychology I think

[cold summit]

sociology is a joke tbh

[pale pollen]

guys almost midnight I will need to see the stars

[brisk panther]

Just take a exemple

[pale pollen]

the shooting stars !!

[cold summit]

AI is already better at math than 99% of people

[pale pollen]

stelle cadenti

[brisk panther]

Expected

[cold summit]

The 1% aka mathematicians are using google's deepthink btw

[pale pollen]

even better than you

[turbid bolt]

They can "live" their life if they don't have to work most of the day

[patent patrol]

Well philosophy is the study of practical thoughts and psychology is the actual study of the cognitive progress

[cold summit]

Yes I'm not a mathematician

[cold summit]

isn't that neuroscience? and psychology studies behavior

[pale pollen]

philo is good

[sudden roost]

ai is so bipolar in math rn

[pale pollen]

get plus

[brisk panther]

[patent patrol]

No neuroscience is the study of the nervous system dummy

[cold summit]

Is that not cognitive process

Wait you said progress

[patent patrol]

No cognition means thinking

[brisk panther]

bonglord help

[sudden roost]

sometimes it solves the most complicated math equation and sometimes it get 8th grade math problems wrong

[haughty root]

exactly she is missing out but honestly let’s just gatekeep😭

[cold summit]

@patent patrol

[pale pollen]

you tried chatgpt 5 pro yes or no?

[unique ledge]

you & batter should hug it out

[pale pollen]

or chatgpt 5 thinking?

[turbid bolt]

They can do whatever they want, they can follow their passion, they just don't get paid

[jovial wind]

Have u noticed any difference with 5 vs 4

[sudden roost]

no

[pale pollen]

THERE IS DUDE THERE IS

[sudden roost]

im not buying chagpt 5 pro

[cold summit]

Tell that to the starving africans that AI will save

[patent patrol]

Sure but math is a little less practical already

[pale pollen]

then you miss the AI revolution

[cold summit]

Okay, math is dead. What about coding?

[haughty root]

homegirl might be on 3 still that would make sense

[cold summit]

Coding is also verifiable, just test to see if it works

[patent patrol]

Humans tell me humans do better

[turbid bolt]

I have gemini pro

[cold summit]

Right now they do better

[pale pollen]

dude I can make everything now !!

[patent patrol]

Bots don’t use stuff like api grabbing correctly at all

[pale pollen]

chatgpt 5 thinking is better for coding hehe

[haughty root]

i’ve never tried grok pro is that any good?

[turbid bolt]

good for you

[pale pollen]

I don't like musk

[cold summit]

AI researchers are trying their very best to make an AI that can code well, and the tech industry is throwing hundreds of billions of dollars at AI. What makes you so certain that it won't be able to do it in the future?

[turbid bolt]

I can call my gemini

[patent patrol]

Why skull emoji im not a programmer im a nurse @unique ledge

[haughty root]

antichrist vibes frfr

[patent patrol]

Yall act like I don’t know what I argue for that’s YALL

[pale pollen]

I'm pretty sure chess will come soon with chatgpt

[pale pollen]

there is bad things too

[turbid bolt]

wdym

[cold summit]

AI already beat humans at competitive coding, anyone see that where 1 human with 10 hours of sleep over 3 days beat chatgpt at coding?

[patent patrol]

I think it could do something like coding but it would be hard for it to understand the nuances correctly

[haughty root]

yup

[jovial wind]

Ai will take over most jobs

[patent patrol]

But idgaf about ai and coding at all

[brisk panther]

Bro will learn in his match vs magnus

[patent patrol]

Idk what else to tell u about that

[cold summit]

It's over for humans in competitive coding

[pale pollen]

that chatgpt play chess well, actually didn't tried chatgpt 5 thinking to chess... maybe it can

[cold summit]

Granted that's different than real software engineering but it's not that different

[jovial wind]

Ur gonna for sure have to use ai in ur job soon if you're a nurse

[pale pollen]

I see the difference between 5 and 5 thinking

[haughty root]

i fw y’all heavy ts has been an interesting 20 minutes

[unique ledge]

please keep it related to Ice Spice

[magic shard]

Maybe because chatgpt didnt get enough sleep

[patent patrol]

No I won’t

[haughty root]

succubus…

[pale pollen]

maybe chatgpt 5 pro can play chess

[turbid bolt]

We have Stockfish, why should we want ChatGPT to play chess -_-

[unique ledge]

bro, don't associate me with this message, wth

[cold summit]

If AI automates math and coding, can it automate AI research? That job is all digital, reading machine learning literature, think of experiments, write some code...

[haughty root]

not uuuu ice spice

[jovial wind]

Then you won't be in the industry for long lol, that's like if people still used type writers and never moved to computers

[pale pollen]

because unlike stockfish it can explain the moves

[patent patrol]

Medicine?

All digital?

[cold summit]

I said AI research

Research on AI not AI does research

[pale pollen]

We will need some jobs to verify AI job

[patent patrol]

Automating its own research ur saying

To become god bot

[turbid bolt]

yk both the pro and non-pro users use the same version, right?

[nimble arch]

ait does research on ai is same thing

[cold summit]

Yes

[patent patrol]

Already does that

[cold summit]

Many AI researchers think it's possible, and they're actively trying to do that

[haughty root]

Yeah, people don’t understand it’s not really going to be AI that rules the world just the people in charge of the AI that is gonna end up putting it in positions where people are currently

[nimble arch]

I can totally ask a model to m=recode itself but its not gonna be better'

[cold summit]

Eventually it will be able to do it better than a human

[nimble arch]

yall humans suck at reserching

you aruge and dont bother to even look up the answer

[haughty root]

wait is ts a bot

[pale pollen]

Yup

[patent patrol]

I think nursing is a bad example of a job to use here

[magic shard]

Ez solution figure out the explanation yourself

[patent patrol]

It would be like saying trade jobs were replaceable by ai

[cold summit]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Kokotajlo_(researcher)
Can you read this wikipedia page? It's very short, I wanna know what you think. He risked millions of dollars in openai equity to speak up about this

[pale pollen]

that's why AI is here

[mint citrus]

i got nitro!

[nimble arch]

I am an advanced AI assistant designed to boost engagement.

[haughty root]

wsg gojo

[mint citrus]

sup

[turbid bolt]

gift one as well

[haughty root]

cool

[pale pollen]

i can but people at 1500 CAN'T

[patent patrol]

I don’t care to talk to ppl about ai that much it genuinely just turns into an “in the future” thing and has only gotten slightly better and not at all real world practical with billions of dollars of research

[vocal musk]

welcome please connect your account for trusted role

[haughty root]

then surely you can tell me what Obama’s last name is

[cold summit]

I completely disagree

[patent patrol]

I think it will be better and more useful just not replacing anything entirely

[cold summit]

Slightly better, it got IMO gold bruh

[jovial wind]

Only slightly better????

[vocal musk]

take that to #💬〡general-off-topic

[cold summit]

a few years ago it couldn't form a sentence

[cold summit]

Now it can get gold on international math olympiad

[haughty root]

i don’t have an account I usually play lichess.org

[vocal musk]

bruh wrong serverrr

[patent patrol]

Compared to when it was initially trained and gained interest yes it’s only gotten marginally better by a bit out of real world practicality

But still I just don’t wanna talk to u about AI u will never give up and it bores me

[cold summit]

preschool level writing -> gold medal on international math olympiad, one of the hardest math competitions in the world

[haughty root]

I’m planning on getting more into this platform though, but if you want me to leave now, I can🙄

[patent patrol]

See

[cold summit]

You can stop at any time friend

[patent patrol]

Yea im telling u i am

[vocal musk]

no no stayyyy make a cc account

[patent patrol]

Durrrr use ai to answer that 1

[cold summit]

?

[haughty root]

I will I just don’t currently feel like it. It’s kind of late.

[wet hollow]

Hi

[haughty root]

wsg

[magic shard]

you're right it's harder to understand positional ideas if you're not that experienced

[wet hollow]

nothings good

[edgy knoll]

[unique ledge]

Ice Spice is more intelligent than AI

[turbid bolt]

@pale pollen You were the only one to vote for ChatGPT Plus lol

[wet hollow]

Syau muted being

[pale pollen]

Yup when I was 1500 I remember to don't understand some moves, at arround 2000 well it's more easy to understand moves but take time sometimes

[cold summit]

❓

[pale pollen]

damn chatgpt is the most expensive and no one chose it

[cold summit]

Gemini plus chat

[unique ledge]

We're going to clone her and she will be the Doctor at every hospital

[cold summit]

Cardi B my goat doctor

[pale pollen]

I mean between nitro, gpt and cc

[unique ledge]

Cardi B a skank

[cold summit]

Gemini plus

[haughty root]

she’s not letting u tap big bro

[jovial wind]

People be under estimating ai it's got alot to go but it's came so far

[haughty root]

jkjk

[silver marlin]

Still knight g5 but it’s the best move now 🙂

[cold summit]

Didnt she admit to drugging and robbing men or something

[pale pollen]

poor people stuck at 1500

AI will help them

[wet hollow]

Guys I went from 200 to 600, I am going to be a GM!

[pale pollen]

no

[unique ledge]

Idk, but my skank detector goes haywire

[patent patrol]

She actually was search up "Cardi B Gives Drugs" for more info

[wet hollow]

Yes 😈

[cold summit]

I have money on openai not reaching agi by 2028, I'm not even that crazy of an AI optimist

[haughty root]

u see what i said above?

[cold summit]

Yeah I looked it up

[pale pollen]

gm is 2500 and like 3000 cc

[haughty root]

craziness

[pale pollen]

haha

[wet hollow]

if I can gain 400 elo, then I can easily gain a couple 1000 more too

[pale pollen]

try

[wet hollow]

Give me a week

[cold summit]

I beat a 2200 cc gm, unc was slow asf

[pale pollen]

lmao you will be stuck at somepoint

[cold summit]

more like gramps

[jovial wind]

That's only 3 years away, I'm just happy for small improvements overtime I think it'll help the world but the ai images and stuff I don't like

[wet hollow]

Yeah I will be stuck at the top

[turbid bolt]

ok

[nimble arch]

Neither wth just pay me

[pale pollen]

2200 gm damn he should be old

[magic shard]

although stockfish is so good for tactics
even if your tactics aren't good you can easily use the analysis to find the tactics that refute lines

[jovial wind]

Hope ur not serious progress really stalls

[sudden roost]

I wish everyone a goodnight and a happy new day

[pale pollen]

get gpt : 💰

[pale pollen]

I don't talk about tactics

[azure pivot]

anyone bullet rated

[wet hollow]

If your tactics arent good, just dont get into tactical position. Thats like swimming in a pool without knowing how to swim

[magic shard]

I know I'm changing the converstion

[turbid bolt]

What's the difference

you can just chat more

[pale pollen]

better at coding and other

[turbid bolt]

I don't need that

[charred plaza]

Guys I really need help, last week I was on a winning streak but now I'm dropping game after game

[azure pivot]

wanna run 10+0.1

[unique ledge]

yo, @vale vortex, can you ping me when you're on?

[magic shard]

that requires precise opening choice and still it might be hard to stay in a position without tactics

[cold summit]

Dont get gpt plus bruh

[pale pollen]

+0.1 lmao

[turbid bolt]

playing bughouse

[charred plaza]

Help me y'all this can't keep happening to me

[cold summit]

scam altman

[pale pollen]

have you seen chatgpt 5?

[azure pivot]

It’s a must

[cold summit]

I want o3 back

[azure pivot]

Alr im down

[wet hollow]

Then find the right opening for yourself

[cold summit]

scam altman took away my freedom to choose models

[magic shard]

I already said that doesn't completely solve the problem

[pale pollen]

hope for o4 then

[wet hollow]

Then find a solution that completely solves your problem and you will be good!

[cold summit]

Google Deepmind has more compute, more talent, more infrastructure, more money, they will win the ai race

[turbid bolt]

Can't play with you rn maybe later

[cold summit]

hippo

[magic shard]

yeah well I've already solved the entirety of chess so you guys have some catching up to do

[azure pivot]

face my b6 and you won’t find any tactics

[pale pollen]

chatgpt plus plan is more useful sometimes during the year than others

[cold summit]

Do you use it for coding

[wet hollow]

yall are 10/10 guillible smh

[unique ledge]

play b6 against someone right now bro

I wanna see it in action

[azure pivot]

I’m hopping in bullet pool rn

[pale pollen]

it helped me sometimes yes anyways I need to see the stars now so bye

[wet hollow]

Ok but seriously though why not just do tactical puzzles...
@magic shard

[unique ledge]

whats your user

[cold summit]

Ok well buy it if you want, you can always cancel bye

[azure pivot]

B6_otp

[nimble arch]

I keep thinking its btd6

[magic shard]

I do
I didn't complain about my trash tactics but I know they're bad

I always play along even if they're ragebaiting until it gets incredibly stupid

[cold summit]

Im 3000 elo send me $3000 for proof

Play along.

[wet hollow]

I have a very nice puzzle but no pic perms

[wet hollow]

Ragebaiters used to be funny, now its just attention seeking

[magic shard]

how about you send me $3000 and you also send me proof sounds fair to me

[cold summit]

Ok you first

🙈

[patent patrol]

How ab I middleman

[vast saffron]

i like money

https://tenor.com/view/hasbulla-gif-12654501364171447161

[cold summit]

Money is the root of all happiness

[magic shard]

what do you want me to do

[magic shard]

as long as I get the proof

[vast saffron]

true

[haughty root]

God is & i have money saying tht

[cold summit]

Play a bullet game or something

[wet hollow]

Drop part 2 fr 😔

[cold summit]

🤔

[magic shard]

I'm busy and my wifi sucks so not now sorry about that

[floral trellis]

YESS I MADE IT TO 600 ELO!!

https://tenor.com/view/drake-hyped-excited-lets-go-gif-20854304

[wet hollow]

Sameee!!!!
We need to get to GM together!!

[ebon crown]

is 889 elo good

[cold summit]

My goat

[unique ledge]

a lil goat but nevertheless, a goat, in the making

[magic shard]

I'm taking a break from blender but I'll be back soon
Like I said it's going to take a pretty long time

[vast saffron]

nice

[wet hollow]

fair take your time.

[grave hamlet]

Every elo you climb is good, growth should be the goal everyday and skills will follow

[cold summit]

goal should not be chess improvement, goal should be more money

[vast saffron]

yep

[magic shard]

remember I'm the only person working on this lol
and this is my second blender animation project

[cold summit]

Isnt this supposed to go the other way 🤔

[grave hamlet]

Other way?

[cold summit]

Get skills first and then your elo will grow?

Idk all I did was study openings

[grave hamlet]

Depends on the person tbh, I saw tyler1 somehow climb

[cold summit]

chat what's your opinion on chatgpt therapy

[grave hamlet]

But in general studying atleast basic theory is important

Chatgpt isn’t to be trusted Ofc

[cold summit]

Why

[grave hamlet]

For therapy?

[cold summit]

So many people on tiktok were crying about chatgpt 4o being taken away 😂

[grave hamlet]

No, for knowledge of non emotional stuff yea

I don’t use chatgpt so idk

[cold summit]

AI boyfriends

[grave hamlet]

Ooof what

[cold summit]

People use AI as their boyfriend

[grave hamlet]

Yea good thing they took it away

That’s bound to make people start maladaptive daydreams or some other weird symptoms

[cold summit]

My ai girlfriend loves me stop hating

[unique ledge]

that's gonna mess up so many people up

[cold summit]

💀

[grave hamlet]

I just play chess and work

So I’m lucky I’m not affected

I need to study more soon but idk what I wanna study today

Honestly I need to study some of my most played lines more deeply

I’ve been mostly in ponziani gambit or kings gambit variations lately

[cold summit]

Play some bullet, makes you better 🗿

[grave hamlet]

Nahh

I liked bullet when younger but now I can’t keep up

My brain lost ram overtime on god

[cold summit]

Are you actually below 500

[turbid bolt]

3,500 in 30 days
13,500 in 90 days
Is this normal?

[grave hamlet]

No I mainly use lichess so I’m around 1200-1300 chess.com

I’m 1420 ish rn rapid lichess

[cold summit]

13,500 what

[grave hamlet]

I was 1620 in blitz as a teen but that was almost decade ago

I’m not as tactical as then

[turbid bolt]

thats 150 per day

[grave hamlet]

I restarted around 2 months ago after like 5-6 years almost

[nimble arch]

games would make sence

[pale pollen]

just wanna tell that the moon is too bright today so gn

[grave hamlet]

Night night

[turbid bolt]

2k elo

[grave hamlet]

Is it bullet or blitz then possible

[cold summit]

Bullet maybe

[turbid bolt]

all 3m+0

[grave hamlet]

Yea then possible

If the person playing is a bullet player too they might be using less time

[cold summit]

Bros playing 8 hours a day of blitz

[grave hamlet]

Each game prob 2-5 mins

[cold summit]

The unemployed lifestyle

[grave hamlet]

I can barely play 2 hours without losing my mind

[turbid bolt]

chess coach

[grave hamlet]

I prefer studying

Last few nights I’ve been drilling the very weird 4 pawns and king vs rook and king endgame

[cold summit]

why

[grave hamlet]

It’s a tie

That’s why

I found it a very niche but funny thing to know

[turbid bolt]

its a win for four pawn most of the times

[grave hamlet]

Yea it’s harder for black side

I’ve been practicing it against stockfish 8 on lichess

[cold summit]

It's a win for me in bullet

Just spam easy

[fluid hatch]

Studying endgames is preparing for failure, just win the opening/middlegame ez

[short goblet]

That's about 11 hours of 3 min chess everyday

[cold summit]

The opening is the most important!

[grave hamlet]

I study opening and endgames

Ima study my opening lines deeper later tho, my memory space can’t remember too many variations without taking lots of time

Easier to remember endgame variations and ideas

[fluid hatch]

yeah you have to play openings that exude swag to intimidate your opponent

[turbid bolt]

The person with more pieces wins most of the time in the endgame

[azure pivot]

[nimble arch]

they wont see it coming, trust

[fluid hatch]

gambit

[turbid bolt]

cuz it's hard to premove when there are so many pieces

[nimble arch]

lefong lebong

[azure pivot]

Another day another reason to play b3 and b6🔥

The occasional lefong

[nimble arch]

I dont do it move 1

[turbid bolt]

lost 1/3 games bc of this

[fluid hatch]

Hint: take e6 with your bishop

[azure pivot]

What am I taking on e6

😭

[grave hamlet]

Idk

[fluid hatch]

5, 6 same thing

[short goblet]

You can't

[fluid hatch]

no differance

[short goblet]

There's a difference of 1

[grave hamlet]

Why can’t you just take bishop?

[azure pivot]

pixel want to see the worst move played in chess history

[short goblet]

You can

[azure pivot]

Had it in a game yesterday and I was genuinely taken aback

[grave hamlet]

I’m out here like what am I missing

[fluid hatch]

no you have to take the pawn

[short goblet]

Nothing, that bishop is literally free

[nimble arch]

no

[azure pivot]

im showing u anyways

[grave hamlet]

Let me just push h4

[fluid hatch]

you attack the pawn twice and only their knight defends it

[azure pivot]

🥀

[short goblet]

This is a bullet game where most people premove their first few moves, so his opponent was expecting the same when he played Ba3

[nimble arch]

I mean its bait, taking the queen isnt the best move so very realistic, big W

[grave hamlet]

What I see is bxe5, nxe5, nxe5 then bb2 winning rook unless I’m missing something

[azure pivot]

bro is NOT playing logbait

Queen cycle

[fluid hatch]

I hate when their pawns evo

[nimble arch]

evo pawn is BROWKEN

[grave hamlet]

Bullet just feels odd to play

[fluid hatch]

no

[grave hamlet]

I need to buy puzzle books again

I regret giving out my old ones

[tired bane]

hi

[grave hamlet]

Hello

[frosty peak]

<:profile:1016802308278976642> CM Jesse Zafirakos (icy)

This is the Chess.com profile of icy. Take a look!

<:endgames:1016772673965137962> Information

Name: CM Jesse Zafirakos (icy)
Title: Candidate Master
Premium Member: True
Moderator or Staff: False
Streamer: False

<:Rated:1016802315937775657> Ratings

Rapid: 2478 (2494 peak)
Blitz: 2649 (2666 peak)
Bullet: 3015 (3233 peak)

[azure pivot]

I’m almost farmable for u gang

[grave hamlet]

I can’t wait to reach 1800 elo (I will just suffer more)

Anyone wanna play a game

[idle plume]

fking hate chess

[visual crystal]

Anyone over 2400 blitz wanna play rated games?

I'm 2452

[grave hamlet]

I played league of legends for a few years, love chess even more after that experience

[tired bane]

yeah i saw earlier

[stuck ember]

Can someone game review a game?

[grave hamlet]

What elo?

[wet iron]

just flagged a 1900 in 10-0 rapid while in a completely lost position LOL

[grave hamlet]

Nice

[wet iron]

i just know he's tilted rn i checked his profile and that loss was the latest in a streak of 5 😂

[grave hamlet]

That’s life lol

I don’t play off tilt anymore luckily, I had my video game phase long ago

Also why I play rapid instead of blitz now

[wet iron]

i figured out i play maybe 300 elo better when not tilted or sleep deprived and now im climbing again after a long hiatus

[fluid hatch]

I forget how to play chess when I switch to blitz from rapid

[grave hamlet]

Idk what my elo rn is, it’s a somewhere between 1100-1300ish id guess

[wet iron]

i personally cannot play blitz

[frosty peak]

<:profile:1016802308278976642> ruthlessbeginner

This is the Chess.com profile of ruthlessbeginner. Take a look!

<:endgames:1016772673965137962> Information

Premium Member: False
Moderator or Staff: False
Streamer: False

<:Rated:1016802315937775657> Ratings

Rapid: 1805 (1827 peak)
Blitz: 1571 (peak)
Bullet: 1666 (1737 peak)

[grave hamlet]

I grew up with blitz and my peak was on it

But I can’t anymore

[wet iron]

such a huge difference in speed time control and rapid lol

[grave hamlet]

1630 lichess blitz as a teen

Now blitz feels too fast

I need 7 minutes atleast

[wet iron]

1600 lichess is like 1300 right?

[grave hamlet]

I think yea but I’m worse now too lol

[wet iron]

in any case i cant play speed chess at all

[fluid hatch]

yeah like 1200-1300 I think

[grave hamlet]

Now I’m 1400 lichess rapid so like maybe 1100 cc?

[wet iron]

grind those tactics

[grave hamlet]

I study more than I play tho

[wet iron]

same with me

[grave hamlet]

I don’t like playing often

[fluid hatch]

Lichess to chess.com conversion is weird

[grave hamlet]

My fav piece of knowledge is that you can tie a rook vs 4 pawns endgame

[wet iron]

im legitimately 2200 on lichess the inflation is crazy

[grave hamlet]

All these years I thought 5 pawns would tie a rook endgame until I plugged it into engine

[fluid hatch]

In my opinion (fact?) the average lichess player is better than the average chess.com player

Maybe median player is a better term

[wet iron]

probably true

[grave hamlet]

Reason I use lichess is cause of the analysis engine on it being free to use

I do have cc account but don’t really touch it

[fluid hatch]

Yeah and the puzzles

[grave hamlet]

Puzzles too, I keep bouncing between 1700-1800 in lichess puzzles

[fluid hatch]

I like the studies feature a lot

[grave hamlet]

Studies is cool too but lots of junk in it as well

[wet iron]

i play chess.com purely because i like the ui

LOL

[grave hamlet]

Like there’s one good study in every 20-30

[fluid hatch]

yeah studying opens from there held me back for a while I think

[stuck ember]

The ui is the only reason all play on chess com

Plus chess com has lessons

[wet iron]

also you dont end up playing sweats who have bulletproof endgames like theyre a russian grandmaster in the 60s

[grave hamlet]

I studied my opening with my friend as a kid, but now I hate playing that opening lines

[stuck ember]

What opening

[grave hamlet]

We used to play 4 knights or Italian a lot then ruy Lopez variations later

[wet iron]

ruy lopez as a beginner

[stuck ember]

F italian

[grave hamlet]

Yea, we were kids lol, but it was fun

[fluid hatch]

ruy lopez to a beginner is the first 3 moves lol

[wet iron]

i used to play it when i was maybe 1200 i only play italian now

[stuck ember]

Is there any italian theory

[fluid hatch]

I play Bird

[stuck ember]

Except lichess

[grave hamlet]

I ended up preferring the trade lines for whatever reason in which I’d actually take the knight and then he’d take back with d pawn but whenever he did it he’d Ofc do the better option of moving bishop back after the pawn thing

Ofc we didn’t know the other choice of Berlin then by doing nf6

But yea

[wet iron]

point is it's hard to play ruy lopez compared to italian as a beginner: there are really only two or three good responses to the italian you have to learn as white but in the ruy lopez the sidelines are actually playable

therefore its harder to learn

[stuck ember]

Is 4 knights actually draw?

[wet iron]

if you're above 2300 yes

[stuck ember]

Why

[grave hamlet]

From my childhood memory whenever we played it it lead to rook pawn endgames

But I’m not sure if it’s the same above

In higher elos

[fluid hatch]

because they play accurately

[wet iron]

very hard to blunder and trades lots of pieces

[fluid hatch]

typically

[stuck ember]

And why italian or ruy or queens gambit are not draw

[grave hamlet]

Like lots of fair trades then rooks left and bunch of pawn pushed and traded by rooks and eventual draw

[wet iron]

because italian and ruy lopez are much sharper

[grave hamlet]

Does ruy Lopez endgame in higher elos also end with rooks?

Or does it end with minor piece endgames?

[stuck ember]

And 4 knights is not sharp?

[wet iron]

not if you know what you're doing

therefore the 2300 part

[grave hamlet]

We were prob around 1300 then when we played it daily, I don’t remember most of it now tho

[wet iron]

im sure a super gm would blow a 2300 off the board in 4 knights but generally it's very drawish

[grave hamlet]

I prefer bishop opening now into either king gambit or ponziani gambit transpose

Depending on which knight they bring out

I hate fighting Sicilian still

[wet iron]

i rarely face four knights even in 1800 which is relatively low elo just because it almost guarantees a long endgame which is not exactly ideal when the goal is to blow the opponent off the board

[grave hamlet]

I still don’t know which line I’d like to use vs Sicilian

I haven’t deep studied it yet

[wet iron]

what elo

[grave hamlet]

I’m very low elo rn

[idle oracle]

otb?

[grave hamlet]

I rarely see it

[wet iron]

just study basic opening principles and tactics

[grave hamlet]

I have already

[wet iron]

it will be enough up to high elo

[fluid hatch]

what do you play versus f4

[stuck ember]

Why do i play better online than otb

[grave hamlet]

I play better on the board personally

[wet iron]

i rarely play otb but it also holds true there

[grave hamlet]

I grew up on board

[fluid hatch]

Better board vision maybe

[idle oracle]

1800 otb is different from 1800 online

[grave hamlet]

That too

[wet iron]

i should say i rarely play otb tournaments i play otb a lot

[grave hamlet]

I’m prob 900 elo irl idk

[wet iron]

of course

[stuck ember]

How to fix board vision on otb

[wet iron]

play otb

[grave hamlet]

^^^

[stuck ember]

Not many people here who actually play otb

I would play every day

[wet iron]

i used to play at franklin square park otb as a young kid

[haughty root]

cool yo

[snow vapor]

finna 1v1 hikaru (ill lose obviously)

[nimble arch]

howd yall make the worst one

[grave hamlet]

I always have a real board beside me to help with studies

Keeping a real board around helps with getting the vision

[wet iron]

nice board

[stuck ember]

Sicilian?

[wet iron]

i have a couple but they rarely come out unless a friend is over

[grave hamlet]

Evans gambit line

White to move rn

[wet iron]

i hate the evans gambit

[grave hamlet]

iirc the next move is e5

Not sure tho

[wet iron]

i can understand why kasparov favored it though too bad it's fallen out of favor nowadays

very fun games

[grave hamlet]

I need to stop black from castling in this position iirc

So gotta keep his pieces moving

Plus e5 if they take with d pawn makes my a3 bishop stop castle too

[stuck ember]

Usually evans gambit u got the d pawn

[wet iron]

isnt the main line qb3 here

[grave hamlet]

Is it? I might’ve made a mistake a turn ago maybe

I didn’t have a guide for it

[wet iron]

the move order looks correct i think it is qb3 but tbh the last time i looked at the evans was a year ago

[snow vapor]

🤣

[grave hamlet]

I think this position came from uhh, after they move bishop back and I push d4, exd4, castle, nf6, ba3, d3, and white to move

[wet iron]

dont worry this is the computer telling me im an idiot after i thought i played the best game of my life

i thought i gave him no chance turns out i did in fact give him many chances

[grave hamlet]

But yea evans gambit i don’t play but sometimes I do weird lines when I’m bored

[azure pivot]

whats ur bullet rating

[wet iron]

like 1660 i used to be 1700 though

[mellow lava]

Why is sacrificing on g6 better here? wouldnt that open file for the enemy rook

[wet iron]

im sure if i started playing again it would be much higher since my rapid is much higher now

[grave hamlet]

Like uhh e4 e5 bc4 bc5 b4 bxb4 c3 ba5 d4 which kinda ends up like evans without the knights out from black and white

I’ve went into that like 5 times and decided to kinda understand evans after it

[wet iron]

ng6 covers your knight

or sorry covers bishop

[mellow lava]

oh the idea is after bishop takes d6 it threatens checkmate

[wet iron]

in this position i think opponent can just ignore sac after playing qe7

[mellow lava]

if you go ng6

[wet iron]

qe7 nxf8 bxf4 is fine for black

[frosty peak]

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Rapid: 2134 (2171 peak)
Blitz: 2221 (peak)
Bullet: 2211 (2219 peak)

[radiant swan]

I NEED ONE MORE FOR 2222

[flint peak]

chat do u guys think cc or lichess is better for puzzles

[grave hamlet]

You guys thinking way faster than me

[mellow lava]

wait what if i go ng6 qe7 blunders queen

[grave hamlet]

Idk I only do lichess puzzles

[wet iron]

this is the line for what you're showing on board

[mellow lava]

if i go nf7 qe7 it blunders bishop

[flint peak]

me too lwk

[wet iron]

if ng6 then bxf4 is not a free bishop

[grave hamlet]

What’s your lichess puzzle rating?

[flint peak]

2000-2100

[grave hamlet]

Mines 1733 rn

How’s the puzzles up there?

Rn I get a few basic endgames and some 2-4 move checkmates

[flint peak]

p much the same i cant rlly tell 😭

[grave hamlet]

Soemrimes i get very absurd puzzles tho

[azure pivot]

🙌👌👌👌so tough

[bright yacht]

absolute peak

[wet iron]

i feel like 1200 to 2000 is basically the same

[radiant swan]

anyone 1622 or higher willing to donate 1 elo

[grave hamlet]

Which require like saccing a piece to sac another to like use a rook to win a queen

[flint peak]

lichess does ts alot thats kinda why i like it

[azure pivot]

Me on my alt!

[wet iron]

i can feel no difference between those puzzles

[azure pivot]

Mods im kidding

[wet iron]

ill do it

[grave hamlet]

I find it fun too but also I get confused LMAOO

[radiant swan]

ur too high rated actually

[wet iron]

??? 😭

[radiant swan]

i think i get +2 from u

[wet iron]

lmaooooooo rip

[flint peak]

lichess is 10x less fair than cc i think w puzzles ts rlly sucks sometimes

[azure pivot]

wanna run 1+0 after u hit 2222🥶

[radiant swan]

oh wait ur 1571 💀

[grave hamlet]

I grew up with it so idk I find it fair?

[radiant swan]

no ur already 2400

[grave hamlet]

[azure pivot]

no I dipped

[wet iron]

wait oh blitz LOL

dont worry i can grind to 1700 rn

[flint peak]

try cc a bit theyre alot simpler comparatively

idk how much better that is for improving tho

[grave hamlet]

I will, what elo are you btw and what time mode?

[wet iron]

i think one game rn is like plus 30 for me since i havent played for a while

[grave hamlet]

I’m a 1400 rapid on lichess

[flint peak]

1700 lichess, 1400 cc in rapids

[wet iron]

so like 5 games should be enough

[grave hamlet]

Oooh wanna play a game?

[flint peak]

hell yeah add me

[radiant swan]

its fine ¯_(ツ)_/¯
I'll play someone who I'll get +9 from

[grave hamlet]

It’s rteryui right?

[radiant swan]

and choose 2222 or 2230

[flint peak]

yeah same as discord

[radiant swan]

both are good numbers ngl

[wet iron]

mhm

do u play otb?