#Wooden Training Sabre

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jade lake
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Hi! Need your wisdom again as i am not sure!
Got order for medival training-wooden-sabre.
Blade:
Was thinking about cutting thin (~3mm) wooden slats(?strips?).
Then gluing them together for strength.
Handle:
I will carve 2 elements from oak;
•Guard
•Hilt

Then guard will slide on a hilt and lock then blade from softer lighter wood (larch?) Go inside a hilt and lock.

Then soft material that have no slack will be slid on the blade (to not hurt new recriuts to much)

Will work? What do you think?

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heady charm
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is this meant for sparring or just solo drills?

jade lake
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I decided to make laminate with each layer having reversed grain.
Then carve channel in middle of a blade to insert a rope all around "hitting" surface.
Then with shower curtain material (to reduce air resistance) with wool under, sew all around to make rope not fall off a channel

heady charm
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i'd need a picture of that to see what you mean about the rope and the shower curtain material

jade lake
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Rope all around a blade, to hit people with something softer than wood

heady charm
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ok so you're wrapping the rope around the blade like a pell?

jade lake
heady charm
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are the people wearing hand protection or are they using bare hands?

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because even with what you described I would be against it, especially with no hard gloves

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I think that if it's for just solo drills or slow pair drilling it would work, but anything other than that would be about the same as a synthetic sword, and should be treated accordingly

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you also need a solution for the tip to keep thrusts safe

jade lake
heady charm
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well yeah, you have a bunch of foam there

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but if you're just wrapping wood with what looks like 1/2" rope and a couple layers of cloth, you are definitely going to be breaking a finger or two if you get hit on the hand

jade lake
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Do you have any suggestion for better suppression?

heady charm
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maybe if you use a high density foam instead of rope you might have more compression

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and have the blade be pretty thick so you don't have as much force concentrated on an edge

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maybe eva foam or something

jade lake
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Will look into it and test, thanks 🙂

heady charm
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put a layer of eva foam, then wrap on top with rope

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something like that might work better

sweet crescent
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Will you have a heavy pommel to balance out the rope?

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Seconding Sleep with EVA rather than rope. Rope barely compresses at all, it's not going to afford much if anything in the way of pain reduction 😄

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If you go wood-eva-rope it might be too thick. Maybe a bamboo/fibreglass core?

heady charm
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^essentially how cosplay/nerf weapons are made

sweet crescent
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Basically yeah!

jade lake
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I went with layers of pipe foam and fabric cover around the blade, will balance blade Balance with Lead inserts in the Handle

sweet crescent
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I've whacked plenty of people with a bamboo staff and it's lasted 20 years - it is admittedly quick thick, though 😄

jade lake
sweet crescent
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That's true, the shield part will murder the edge instantly. Have you ever tried wrapping a wooden blade in fibreglass?

jade lake
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Never, sound expensive tho :p

edgy isle
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how is training with wooden sabres helpful, doesn't the weight difference cause muscle memory issues compared to real sabres

sweet crescent
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Hence the balance question, you have to get it bob on otherwise you're all over the boat

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Lot of metal Dao/Jian are shite for balance, too.

heady charm
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Or doing dumb stuff like murder stroke on the edge of a piece of metal