is it smart to downgrade by rm2 tablet for getting access to splitscreen or can i still use toltec? | reMarkable | Page 1

torpid iron Oct 20, 2025, 8:51 PM

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I am using 3.23 (i left the beta though). split screen is a HUGE game changer for me

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im also new

weary lion Oct 20, 2025, 8:53 PM

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if you can get down to 3.22, you can use xovi and rmhacks (the xovi port)

torpid iron Oct 20, 2025, 8:53 PM

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can i do that safely? what is the liklihood of bricking the tablet do u think? like high risk or relatively low

weary lion Oct 20, 2025, 8:53 PM

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do not try to use toltec above 3.3

torpid iron Oct 20, 2025, 8:53 PM

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ik thats a hard to answer question

soft onyx Oct 20, 2025, 8:54 PM

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https://remarkable.guide/faqs.html#can-i-downgrade-to-a-different-os-version

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Another thing to note is that the official cloud doesn't support 3.3.2 anymore

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So it will not work

weary lion Oct 20, 2025, 8:55 PM

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did you upgrade from 3.22? I'd recommend running this tool I wrote to see what version's installed on your backup root partition: https://github.com/rmitchellscott/rm-version-switcher

3.22 isn't in codexctl yet, so what we have to do to get you back to 3.22 will depend on what you're working with on-device

torpid iron Oct 20, 2025, 8:55 PM

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soft onyx Another thing to note is that the official cloud doesn't support 3.3.2 anymore

official cloud? wdym

weary lion Oct 20, 2025, 8:55 PM

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the remarkable cloud, with sync, etc

torpid iron Oct 20, 2025, 8:55 PM

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weary lion did you upgrade from 3.22? I'd recommend running this tool I wrote to see what v...

yeah

torpid iron Oct 20, 2025, 8:57 PM

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weary lion did you upgrade from 3.22? I'd recommend running this tool I wrote to see what v...

do i wget this on the rm2 bash or locally on my laptop (i think its like in the bash sshd into rm2 but im kinda stupid lol)

weary lion Oct 20, 2025, 8:58 PM

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on the rm2

torpid iron Oct 20, 2025, 8:58 PM

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tyty

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for some reason it shows that libatomic.so.1 DNE so, i probably accidentally did this while messing around trying to forcefully install some stuff by manually creating a lot of the files and directories

weary lion Oct 20, 2025, 9:01 PM

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During the wget?

torpid iron Oct 20, 2025, 9:02 PM

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yeah

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ah rats

weary lion Oct 20, 2025, 9:04 PM

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you can download the arm7 version on your computer and scp it over, no problem

torpid iron Oct 20, 2025, 9:05 PM

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im ngl man im not 100% sure what this means

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imma cry

weary lion Oct 20, 2025, 9:06 PM

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download this on your computer: https://github.com/rmitchellscott/rm-version-switcher/releases/download/v0.3.2/rm-version-switcher-armv7.tar.gz

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you on windows?

torpid iron Oct 20, 2025, 9:06 PM

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nope on mac

weary lion Oct 20, 2025, 9:06 PM

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even better!

torpid iron Oct 20, 2025, 9:07 PM

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okok yayyy ok so ive used scp once or twice but i dont remember what it actually is like what does it technically do

weary lion Oct 20, 2025, 9:07 PM

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once you've got that downloaded, you can extract it. scp just copies files via ssh

torpid iron Oct 20, 2025, 9:07 PM

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or like this there somewhere i can read more about it should i just man scp

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ohhhhh okok cool!

weary lion Oct 20, 2025, 9:08 PM

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how are you sshing into the rm2? usb?

torpid iron Oct 20, 2025, 9:09 PM

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yes I am using usb

weary lion Oct 20, 2025, 9:12 PM

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word. Once you've got that extracted, you should be able to do
mv ~/Downloads/rm-version-switcher-armv7 ~/Downloads/rm-version-switcher
then
chmod +x ~/Downloads/rm-version-switcher
then
scp ~/Downloads/rm-version-switcher [email protected]:~/

In order, that will

rename the file to drop the -armv7 suffix
set it to be executable
copy it over ssh to the rm2 over the usb connection

Then back on the rm2, you can run ./rm-version-switcher --show-only to print what versions are installed where

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~/ is just a shell shortcut for "my home directory", works on macos and linux (like the remarkable's os)

torpid iron Oct 20, 2025, 9:15 PM

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This is what it shows

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also ty so much for your help with this so far you're a godsend. my cs knowledge is like not great i do a lot of python and bash and latex and whatnot but i mostly just kinda learned by doing things/ not having any training so ive got lottttts of gaps in my basic cs knowledge so tysm

weary lion Oct 20, 2025, 9:17 PM

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okay, so here's my plan:

we swap to boot from 3.17.0.62
make sure unenrolled from the beta
run the software update to 3.22
disable software updates
install xovi
install rmhacks

Upgrading while booted into 3.17 will overwrite 3.23.
Nothing we're doing is very risky at all, but it doesn't hurt to grab a backup of any docs that are critical before we go any further.

torpid iron Oct 20, 2025, 9:17 PM

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okok

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i have rmapi should i backup using that?

weary lion Oct 20, 2025, 9:19 PM

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easy-mode backup will be (from your mac):
mkdir ~/rm-backup
scp -r [email protected]:~/.local/share/remarkable/xochitl ~/rm-backup/

this will create a directory/folder in your home directory on the mac
copy the entire folder of your docs from the remarkable to this new folder
Nothing deleted from the rM.

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scp is probably faster

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since it's local over usb not pulling from the cloud

torpid iron Oct 20, 2025, 9:19 PM

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okok perfect

weary lion Oct 20, 2025, 9:20 PM

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slight change to the commands, I just added ~/ to make them absolute so it won't matter what dir your shell's in when you run them

torpid iron Oct 20, 2025, 9:22 PM

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its still backing up, taking a sec, i think its like 3.5GB but almost done

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okay i changed it to 3.17.0.62 🥳

weary lion Oct 20, 2025, 9:30 PM

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noice

torpid iron Oct 20, 2025, 9:33 PM

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im not sure if the syncing is working 100% yet but should i just wait on that? (as i type this out they started working) and also is it okay if i message again if i am having trouble w/ installing xovi and/ or rmhacks or should i open a new ticket in support?

weary lion Oct 20, 2025, 9:33 PM

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I'm with ya for at least another hour and a half

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this thread is fine.

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@warped lotus wrote some decent guides for the xovi / rmhacks bits: https://xovi.bearblog.dev/install-xovi/

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I can def help with xovi, I haven't installed rmhacks myself

naive summit Oct 20, 2025, 9:40 PM

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If you have rmhacks questions here I might be able to help too.

torpid iron Oct 20, 2025, 9:40 PM

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I have some old files left over in ~/ of rm2 that may make installing xovi annoying should i remove them/ which ones should i remove

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i remember most of them had incomplete installations

weary lion Oct 20, 2025, 9:41 PM

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what's in bootstrap?

torpid iron Oct 20, 2025, 9:42 PM

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It was from when i was trying to force install toltec i think

weary lion Oct 20, 2025, 9:42 PM

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ah, doesn't hurt to remove it then

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also doesn't hurt to leave it I don't think

torpid iron Oct 20, 2025, 9:42 PM

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what about the other xovi things?

weary lion Oct 20, 2025, 9:43 PM

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are those old xovi things or new?

torpid iron Oct 20, 2025, 9:43 PM

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old

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from failed installs

weary lion Oct 20, 2025, 9:43 PM

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ah, I'd delete em all then and start fresh. So probably remove install-xovi-for-rm, xovi, xovi-tripletap

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you can remove the version switcher if you want, or keep it around, your call

torpid iron Oct 20, 2025, 9:45 PM

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okie dokies! btw I keep having failed checksums when simply trying to wget curl

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im using `wget -O curl --no-check-certificate https://ghproxy.net/https://github.com/moparisthebest/static-curl/releases/download/v8.11.0/curl-$curl_arch && echo "$curl_sha256sum curl" | sha256sum -c && chmod +x curl`

weary lion Oct 20, 2025, 9:47 PM

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you ran this first right?
curl_arch=armv7 && curl_sha256sum=779a1bd9f486fd5ff1da25d5e5bb99c58bc79ded22344f2b7ff366cf645a6630

torpid iron Oct 20, 2025, 9:48 PM

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yep!

weary lion Oct 20, 2025, 9:48 PM

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hmm

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I just ran those on my mac to test and the sha matched

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if you run those 2 commands on your mac, do they twerk?

torpid iron Oct 20, 2025, 9:50 PM

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let me restart maybe its just a fluke

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like on my mac mac or sshd into rm2

weary lion Oct 20, 2025, 9:52 PM

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you can try on your mac, should work just fine

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could always copy curl over via scp

torpid iron Oct 20, 2025, 9:53 PM

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weary lion if you run those 2 commands on your mac, do they twerk?

seems to work

weary lion Oct 20, 2025, 9:53 PM

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hm, sha256sum doesn't like that

torpid iron Oct 20, 2025, 9:53 PM

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ahh

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😭

naive summit Oct 20, 2025, 9:54 PM

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Worked for me on rM1.

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(Same architecture as rM2.)

weary lion Oct 20, 2025, 9:54 PM

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torpid iron ahh

what exactly did you run?

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torpid iron Oct 20, 2025, 9:56 PM

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weary lion what exactly did you run?

curl_arch=armv7 && curl_sha256sum=779a1bd9f486fd5ff1da25d5e5bb99c58bc79ded22344f2b7ff366cf645a6630

weary lion Oct 20, 2025, 9:57 PM

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ah, you don't want the second guy

torpid iron Oct 20, 2025, 9:57 PM

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sorry didnt mean to paste second

weary lion Oct 20, 2025, 9:57 PM

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oh ok

torpid iron Oct 20, 2025, 9:57 PM

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wget -O curl --no-check-certificate https://ghproxy.net/https://github.com/moparisthebest/static-curl/releases/download/v8.11.0/curl-$curl_arch && echo "$curl_sha256sum curl" | sha256sum -c && chmod +x curl

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this is what i meant to paste lol

weary lion Oct 20, 2025, 9:58 PM

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[on the rm2] if you just chmod -x curl then do curl --version what happens?

torpid iron Oct 20, 2025, 9:58 PM

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torpid iron Oct 20, 2025, 9:58 PM

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weary lion [on the rm2] if you just `chmod -x curl` then do `curl --version` what happens?

let me check rq

naive summit Oct 20, 2025, 9:59 PM

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(./curl? Or did you do a thing with the path?)

weary lion Oct 20, 2025, 9:59 PM

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oh yeah probably ./curl --version

torpid iron Oct 20, 2025, 10:00 PM

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weary lion Oct 20, 2025, 10:00 PM

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meh seems fine

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I'd just proceed with the xovi install

torpid iron Oct 20, 2025, 10:02 PM

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oh yay!

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okay im rebuilding the hastable after installing qt-resource-rebuilder

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when i rebuild the hashtable it just keeps getting hung

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I did:
cp extensions/qt-resource-rebuilder.so /home/root/xovi/extensions.d/qt-resource-rebuilder.so

then:
xovi/rebuild_hashtable

weary lion Oct 20, 2025, 10:18 PM

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how long does it hang for? it legit takes a few minutes to complete

torpid iron Oct 20, 2025, 10:21 PM

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its been doing it for 6-10+ min i think it might be bc /dev/root is pretty full? but idk with what and where

weary lion Oct 20, 2025, 10:23 PM

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sadly, that's very normal for the rm2

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but, xovi doesn't really touch / so that shouldn't be a problem

torpid iron Oct 20, 2025, 10:24 PM

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so should i just try to have it run again and wait 10-20min?

weary lion Oct 20, 2025, 10:25 PM

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I don't think it should take more than 5 min

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maybe reboot and have another go at xovi/rebuild_hashtable?

torpid iron Oct 20, 2025, 10:29 PM

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trying that now but its not looking positive lol

weary lion Oct 20, 2025, 10:30 PM

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what logs do you get from rebuild_hashtable when it first starts?

naive summit Oct 20, 2025, 10:31 PM

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I don’t know if this will accomplish anything that the previously linked guide wouldn’t, but just in case, a number of people have had success following: https://github.com/asivery/rm-hacks-qmd/blob/master/INSTALL.MD

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Just in case you hit a wall with the current install attempt. It is a bit less streamlined of a process though, I think.

torpid iron Oct 20, 2025, 10:41 PM

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weary lion what logs do you get from rebuild_hashtable when it first starts?

weary lion Oct 20, 2025, 10:41 PM

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hold up there sonny

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you're still on 3.17

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you gotta pump those numbers up

torpid iron Oct 20, 2025, 10:42 PM

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wait i thought i was supposed to stay is 3.17 do i go up to 3.22?

weary lion Oct 20, 2025, 10:42 PM

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yeah, you need to run a software upgrade to 3.22

torpid iron Oct 20, 2025, 10:43 PM

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ohhh okok ill do that rn

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3.22.0.64?

weary lion Oct 20, 2025, 10:46 PM

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yep!

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now I wanna run something on ssh login that prints the pokemon sprite that matches the codename of the rM release

torpid iron Oct 20, 2025, 10:49 PM

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this seem good?

weary lion Oct 20, 2025, 10:49 PM

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yeah, looking good!

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doesn't hurt to run a xovi/debug before going too much further

torpid iron Oct 21, 2025, 12:20 AM

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am back now, my had to leave for a bit but just a question how long does xovi/debug usually take? because its been taking a longgg time and it also keeps hanging

weary lion Oct 21, 2025, 12:22 AM

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It doesn’t stop

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Control-c to interrupt it, then xovi/start

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Debug is just designed to help you see crashes so you can grab logs. If xovi crashes during the normal xovi/start the tablet will fully reboot

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My bad, I thought the xovi guide thing explained it

torpid iron Oct 21, 2025, 12:31 AM

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ohhhhh!

torpid iron Oct 21, 2025, 2:58 AM

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I forgot to mention but i got eveything up and running so thank you all so much!! idk how to close a ticket or if thats how this works lol

weary lion Oct 21, 2025, 3:15 AM

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Make sure you disable automatic software updates, and go add the remarkable 2 owner role in discord (channels & roles at the top of the sidebar)

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Glad you got it working!

warped lotus Oct 21, 2025, 5:04 AM

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@weary lion what was the issue with sha256?

warped lotus Oct 21, 2025, 8:21 AM

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weary lion My bad, I thought the xovi guide thing explained it

I also thought it did, I edited the FAQ now its there

warped lotus Oct 21, 2025, 8:22 AM

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weary lion <@908034762646634527> wrote some decent guides for the xovi / rmhacks bits: http...

By the way, can you suggest any improvements?

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I think I don't have enough explanations, so I'll do that at some point

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~~Also about sha256, I think I used | when > should be used, but Im not sure~~

warped lotus Oct 21, 2025, 1:12 PM

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warped lotus <@160016423811416064> what was the issue with sha256?

okay

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so turns out I messed a space

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the command i used is:

echo "$curl_sha256sum curl" | sha256sum -c

which works only on 3.20+, and you were on 3.17, in which sha256sum was not updated to support one space

weary lion Oct 21, 2025, 1:13 PM

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ah

warped lotus Oct 21, 2025, 1:13 PM

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correct command is

echo "$curl_sha256sum  curl" | sha256sum -c

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two spaces between the sum and curl

warped lotus Oct 21, 2025, 1:14 PM

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weary lion ah

yea

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i tested it on all rm2 versions, and only 3.20 worked (i dont have 3.22 in my db)

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finally

reMarkable: ~/ echo "$curl_sha256sum  curl" | sha256sum -c
curl: OK
reMarkable: ~/ echo "$curl_sha256sum  curl" | "./256/3.9.4.2018/busybox.nosuid" sha256sum -c
curl: OK

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so yea thank you for finding this

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i dont think i would have found out otherwise because i dont use older versions

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