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#Lorna Shore - Prison Of Flesh (new single on Thursday)
hollow musk
I pray its good
sweet gazelle
Please let it be more Oblivion than Unbreakable
verbal jewel
Apparently this is the one that has the breakdown that Will was hyping up on his most recent chat with Nik
light salmon
Oh boy i can't wait for the same lorna breakdown as every song since will joined the band
paper torrent
I don’t even need to listen to it. I already know that this will be Abysmal Dogshit
hollow musk
If its unbreakable ill just turn it off
Im tired of pain remains Lorna
Go back to the peak era which is Immortal and Flesh Coffin
Mix the sounds together man... thats all I ask for
hollow musk
Oh shit. ||This actually feels black metaly at first||
Is it unbreakable?
Or is it Into Peakblivion?
short hare
More like peakblivion
GODDAMN
||ending breakdown is actually different then the pain remains one||
wintry stratus
this song makes me want to get some fucked up but cool looking tattoo
i got goosebumps, so i approve of this massively, holy fuck
hollow musk
Fucking shit I cant hear it yet
wintry stratus
All I'm going to say is, if you can somehow move to at least Singapore, you can listen to it
winter adder
Keeping my expectations low but it's nice to finally see some positive feedback
wintry stratus
^ this upload was 7 hours old when I wrote this comment https://discordapp.com/channels/384935929791512577/1404584168410845346/1405242033320366162
Hopefully it will go public worldwide before the video itself...?
sweet gazelle
I'm just gonna bank on midnight local for streaming
short hare
I'm just gonna bank on midnight local for streaming
yeah
graceful geyser
alr alr better than unbreakable lmao
wintry stratus
alr alr better than unbreakable lmao
((not a high bar tbf))
graceful geyser
not one of their bests, idc about them going heavier or whatever, we back to strong tho
feels like an extended into the earth maybe?
winter adder
alr alr better than unbreakable lmao
Yeah, it's better but I'm not sure if it's good
The first half is pretty forgettable
timid blaze
yeah
yeah
no
i dont like this lol
but i dont hate it either
the symphonics and drums are mixed so fucking loud that i can barely hear the guitar, man
the breakdown is pretty cool i guess, sounds like something id hear off immortal but i dont care enough about breakdowns to enjoy the rest of the song as is
well, the first breakdown, that 2nd breakdown is monstrous
too bad it's the only part of the song id care to listen to
i feel like id enjoy this far more if this song was 3 or 4 minutes
it'd actually be sick if they had a song where they drop the symphonics and just do brutal, evil sounding shit like that outro for its run time
surreal ledge
it is kinda hard to hear guitar
I like this chorus riff
I was jus hoping this album would be a lil different than the last but oh well
Will still sounds great tho
it's pretty relentless tho
this is actually a good solo tho
this is the second time where the song doesn't feel as long as it is to me for some reason
timid blaze
truth be told, on a second listen, im enjoying this more than i initially did
surreal ledge
wow kicks go crazy here at the end
surreal ledge
goddamn this is heavy
okay now that is a good breakdown
whether or not it sounds like regular Lorna now that is still a good ass breakdown
honestly I think I like this the best of the 3. oblivion is really good tho (for what it is)
timid blaze
yeah i think i like this more than oblivion
this breakdown man
i keep running it back
it's so lethal
surreal ledge
austins kicks hurt
this shit jus makes me laugh it's so ridiculous
there's a difference between jus making random stupid sounds and then actually making heavy shit
this is heavy shit
(for a breakdown I mean)
surreal ledge
death portrait is still one of Lorna's best songs
you can @ me too I don't give a shit
that chorus is INSANELY catchy for a deathcore song. the guitar is so fucking good and the ending breakdown is RELENTLESS
winter adder
Well ok this one is def better than the last one, tho still not at all interesting for me
I can't even form a complete opinion on this, I don't really feel anything with this one
"Ok that happened"
How do I even rate this
Slightly above mid
Like 6/10 maybe?
The guitar mixing problem is really apparent, as mentioned above
Nothing stands out in particular apart from that
Oh yeah and it feels kinda indecisive with experimentation attempts
7 minutes are kinda unwarranted here
sweet gazelle
Good song, works well with Oblivion
verbal jewel
Hot take, but bear with me. I wonder how many of the issues that people have with a lot of Lorna’s output are less because of Lorna themselves and more Josh Schroeder. For him, heavier = more midi notes. And the production and mixing issues remind me a bit of Signs of the Swarm - another band that’s (imo) suffered at his hand
light salmon
Never thought I'd see the day where the breakdown of a lorna song was more interesting than the rest of it
Also the intro sounds incredibly similar to the intro of Dante by Northlane
Probably not gonna return to this much
verbal jewel
Also the intro sounds incredibly similar to the intro of Dante by Northlane
I don’t particularly see the similarity. Could you elaborate?
late hill
wintry stratus
The clip makes the entire thing even better
I personally like the "sensory overload" sound that Lorna has, and they turned it up to 11 with the breakdown at the end
It just blows up my ear and I'm all for it
glacial osprey
similar to welcome back, I like it
gilded gyro
Holy peak
short hare
Song is apparently about dementia
light salmon
Is that why it's so forgettable
winter adder
Is that why it's so forgettable
Which song?
graceful geyser
yea Id say like 8/10 but we solid
dark sun
https://youtu.be/nDyHbelR2NU?si=5v4DE0g48VoJrksP holy peak music video
winter adder
We are back into the right direction
I can kinda agree with direction but what did you like so much about this that's worth a 9 in your opinion?
sweet gazelle
Listened again. Still think it's fine, doesnt touch Oblivion but at least not as bad as Unbreakable.
timid blaze
legitimately my only complaint is the guitar mix
but it doesnt completely take it away from me? im unsure why
sweet gazelle
My main issue is that barely anything is memorable. With SOI or Whitechapel I have so many riffs and rhythms that flood my mind when I think of these albums but these singles? Oblivion chorus comes to mind everything else is just....eh, it's there, couldnt tell you anything specific but I'm sure Will does some vocal olympic type stuff near the end while Austin blasts I guess
timid blaze
i actually really enjoy the chorus of this song a lot
hollow musk
I can kinda agree with direction but what did you like so much about this that's...
The way the sound it
Its like doing the best of immortal and mixing a bit of pain remains into it
Very good blend
But nothing better than immortal
surreal ledge
My main issue is that barely anything is memorable. With SOI or Whitechapel I ha...
I'd say the lead guitar bit during the chorus is pretty memorable
but yea I get that
Whitechapel does deathcore a lil differently too
most Lorna now is symphonic and like speed
soi mixes it up a lot with like from ruin we rise and generally has slower chunky songs
the newest slow chunky song I can think from Lorna is soulless existence
and that's it
you'd have to go back to like the Maleficium EP and life of fear for a different sound
I actually think Maleficium is a great EP and Godmaker is extremely underappreciated
it's also very creepy
I love tom, and even tho his vocals aren't my favorite in Lorna, he was the last of actually different music with Lorna
I say this as an extreme Immortal enjoyer and a pretty big fan of pain remains too
which is why SOI has more to the table when it comes to difference in songs
I do wish Lorna would have slower small groove based moments, because they were absolutely SHINE but
people still meat ride them slightly when it doesn't really sound that unremarkable
they have some absolutely peak deathcore songs but they are not the best
Suicide Silence, Whitechapel, Chelsea Grin, and Shadow Of Intent are all more unique and expressive forms of deathcore if you ask me (again I'm still a big fan of Lorna saying this)
holy rant sorry
sweet gazelle
holy rant sorry
Nah, I get the sentiment, gotta get it out of your system
And for the record, I mostly agree
inland maple
Loved how "Prison of Flesh" refers to "Flesh Coffin."
light yacht
Good track, album is shaping up nicely. I think at this point it's impossible for Adam to write a solo I don't dig
Also I really do find it funny that the guys just refuse to change wardrobe for the music videos
quaint bear
hollow hatch
nice for them to slow it down and make a little more radio friendly song 
wintry stratus
I just hope the rest of the album will be at least this good so I can expand the vinyl collection 🙏
wet pollen
Loved how "Prison of Flesh" refers to "Flesh Coffin."
And oblivion referred to Eternally Oblivion (off Psalms) right? Or is that just coincidence
glacial osprey
subdrop in last breakdown sounds insane
sick orbit
I wanna like the new stuff but it’s just pain remains copy paste I end up skipping through the chorus cause all of them are basically the exact same and just listen to the breakdowns
proper dirge
timid blaze
you're so based for breakdown of sanity
exotic stratus
Chat is this song better than the last 2?
light salmon
That's where I'm at with this lol
dark sun
idk song wise if this is my favorite, but music video wise abso fucking lutely
wintry stratus
Unbreakable is a radio positive festival anthem at best lol
pseudo lodge
Each day I’m more and more convinced that everyone who complains about the mix just have shitty speakers
pseudo lodge
define poorly
also Josh Schroeder actually knows how to not drown out the bass in a metal mix which actually kinda makes him my fav producer
winter adder
define poorly
Poorly as in I can't clearly hear and tell it apart from the other instruments regardless of gear and EQ settings being used to listen to the song
pseudo lodge
guitar has the entire upper midrange-treble area to show itself in, and it always has been in almost every mix from basically every band except maybe some super staticy old ones
timid blaze
define poorly
as in, they're way too quiet compared to most other parts
the drums are significantly louder
keep in mind, i do legitimately love this song
but it's a major complaint i have with it (and a complaint i tend to have with lorna in general)
pseudo lodge
If I was listening to the song on phone speakers, guitars and vocals would be the only audible part of the song left (and any song in general)
drowned out foundational bass has always been a complaint of mine in almost every metal mix ever, even some mixes that a lot of people think are good mixes "I can hear the guitar so clearly" when the guitar's lower fundamentals in the upper bass region were muddying out the actual sub, house shaking bass so tiny phone/computer speakers can sound slightly more deeper, like m8 it's not always about the damn guitars and vocals
pseudo lodge
until I heard Shadow of Intent's Primordial/Reclaimer, then Lorna's Flesh Coffin/Immortal, then solidifying more sub bass love in Pain Remains/Everblack. Also aside from the bass guitar, literally the breakdowns of Sleeping Dreamer, Into the Earth, Apotheosis and Wrath can earthquake my whole fucking house, and now the same with Prison/Peakblivion
verbal jewel
I disagree pretty strongly about the mix, but the production also comes into the argument. The “more is better” approach to the synths and orchestra nearly eliminate any forward progress regarding guitar clarity. The loudness of the drums and the relative high-pitched nature of the kick triggers interfere with the bass upper and guitar lower. Finally, the human phenomenon of being attracted to the highest frequencies makes the orchestra sound louder than it actually is. For example, the strings and horns in Unbreakable are perceived as almost as loud as Will’s vocals. And all of this is in addition to my gripes with how Schroeder (imo) took a big backwards step with the SOTS sound on ATLOE and apparently this new album.
winter adder
I disagree pretty strongly about the mix, but the production also comes into the...
I imagine Josh was not involved with IWONTLETYOUDIE cuz DAMN
pseudo lodge
Amongst the Low and Empty was also another mix I really liked with the super clear bass and house rumbling breakdowns, but until now I didn't realize Schroeder was part of the mix of that, which now makes sense
timid blaze
i really cannot get behind the new sots singles
which sucks
because musically they're great but the mix turns me away
winter adder
because musically they're great but the mix turns me away
True
The mix on the last 4 singles is pretty flat, unclear and muddy
pseudo lodge
cap
timid blaze
you know it's possible to like something while acknowledging its flaws right lol
verbal jewel
I guess I’d call the mixes artificial. It takes a sound that’s already heavily enhanced/changed with things like triggers, quantization, etc and makes it even less humanely relatable. To me, Schroeder’s mixes reach a point where it makes no difference whether things are played by actual people or just computer generated.
pseudo lodge
like I think prison could use slightly more subbass
verbal jewel
And yes, this take is informed by the multiple sound sources test - headphones, speakers, and full on sound systems
winter adder
cap
Compare IWONTLETYOUDIE and HELLMUSTFEARME back to back. There's a huge step down in terms of impact, volume and clarity. The latter overlaps vocals and instruments significantly while being a flat line the whole way through in terms of frequency and tonal variety
verbal jewel
Compare IWONTLETYOUDIE and HELLMUSTFEARME back to back. There's a huge step down...
Nope. Schroeder produced IWONTLETYOUDIE too. Not disagreeing with the mix take, just letting you know about prod credits
winter adder
Nope. Schroeder produced IWONTLETYOUDIE too. Not disagreeing with the mix take, ...
That's very interesting btw
So he IS able to make a great mix
verbal jewel
At least according to Spotify credits, which are sourced from Century Media…
winter adder
So he IS able to make a great mix
Not gonna lie, I'm even more disappointed now
pseudo lodge
just listened to all the sots singles back to back, all so fucking solid. Imo that also goes for the mixes as well, except Clouded Retinas. (Edit: relistened on the sound system and also now agree that IWONTLETYOUDIE’s mix is the best one out of them holy shit)
The bass guitar on Clouded Retinas is much more drowned out than everything else for some reason. Apparently it's the completely opposite case live where the bass actually pounds on that song, or so I heard idk, doesn’t stop me from having it on repeat tho. Imo Josh did the best mixing in ATLAE and IWONTLETYOUDIE, where EVERYTHING is crystal clear, more balanced, and fucking pounds at the same time
Lorna's new Everblack album so far is my most favorite from him, how Moke's bass and also Austin's blast beats are both equally clear without trying as much to fight each other, especially in the choruses.
In Pain Remains, the drums and synths were so fucking punishing, but kinda at the cost of the bass, oppositely so in AIRTN where the bass and synths were much more clear but the drums didn’t have nearly as much oomph. In Immortal he actually did better than the EP but not as heavy drums as PR. Pretty damn glad he and Andrew started working together.
in none of these cases have I ever found the guitar or the vocals too muddied, which is basically almost impossible to find for any metal mix except boomer old school ones.
muted girder
Lorna shore one of my top fav 😁❤️🔥🤟🏻