Falling In Reverse - Popular Monster (Album)

[gilded estuary]

It's fucking hilarious

[hollow gale]

that yes

[mint bloom]

Ik lol you said the word political I had to make fun of politicians for a second lol

His insta videos get me crying lmao

[hollow gale]

ah nvm u just missed it, gotcha, no worries tho, prolly is for the best rn

[mint bloom]

Im slow

That’s why I like FIR

[bright cedar]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Q6v7kumORrg

probably the best thing ronnie's ever posted lol

he's a jerk but i mean he's a genius at getting attention

[hushed obsidian]

Imagine commenting that and then Ronnie just responds to your comment while wearing hair curlers and one of his birds

[bright cedar]

fr lol

the bird is 100% the best part

[mint bloom]

He’s my favorite jerk

[bright cedar]

same lol

[mint bloom]

Idgaf about what he did in his past, he makes good music and loves fucking with the internets softies

[bright cedar]

fr

[mint bloom]

Imagine being 40 and this is your way of getting attention lmao

People think its anything else than pathological are delusional

I mean I get it if your still a kid and think that behavior is funny. My 3 year old nephew also laughs at times when he downright misbehaves

[pulsar yacht]

Some songs are bangers some are absolute dogshit. Sounds right

[velvet heart]

I mean he’s not wrong in this case

Would literally just be giving him free money

[pallid kernel]

so far we have 3 nick faces and 7 skunks. my money is on skunks winning

[mint bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/dies-from-cringe-meme-cringe-imagine-gif-23477312

Cool FIR released now we skip over this and wait for Lorna release

I am now going back to 2011 Ronnie

[smoky harbor]

you see this level of ronnie radke dickriding is so obviously ragebait that i cant even refute it because fair play

not sure if a domestic abuser with a history of transphobia among many other things is someone to joke about dickriding tho

[mint bloom]

I know...truth hurts

Currently in the hospital because of the truth

😭🙏

Now unfollowing post bc I have no reason to be here because release was last night

[spark scarab]

as an album this is pretty bad

some of the singles are good but like why are they here

no fear is the only new song worth going back to imo

[gilded estuary]

Damn, to me that was the worst song on here

[spark scarab]

thats fair

i vibe with rap sometimes so its a decent rap song

trigger warning was garbage

prequel sounded like a bad NF song but with ronny's voice

bad guy was catchy enough but mid

[whole wagon]

So I have thoughts

Prequel and no fear are bangers

Bad guy is BAD

like my ears are cursed

I tried to like it, but it’s BAD

and trigger warning feels like a blatant copy of shinedown

It’s like they looked at shinedown, stole the lyrical content, the drum beat, the producing, and just added heavier guitars

Like it sounds like this song just with heavier guitars: https://open.spotify.com/track/0Uc85S7KrkxNIGS9YYXhUJ?si=sZvz0AsbR8OKtiAchjDJxA&context=spotify%3Aalbum%3A7tWcsQLHpvXnUPN1jsSaGw

Like trigger warning feels like blatant plagiarism

Specifically the chorus

[final valve]

whatever u say bud. I love My Apocalypse 2

[craggy arrow]

This album is so good

[shy umbra]

The end of prequel goes hard

I’ll dedicate my life to one of those things

[real frigate]

prequal goes so fucking hard

that ending

need more of that

[hardy imp]

my only problem that it gets formulatic

i hope in the next singles/album it'll have a different approach

[real frigate]

ditch the song structure entirely

rap for half of it metal breakdown for the other half

mix the rap side like prequal and add ronald levels of heaviness to it

[lone pebble]

The music video is amazing I don’t know why he make a music video like a movie but I love it

[twin pasture]

Look man

I liked it it was alright

Wasn't amazing

Wasn't a dumpster fire

And I think ronnie's funny

don't like him as a person but

Yeah

that's my take

[spark scarab]

This might be a hot take but all my life might be my favorite song from it rn

Used to love popular monster but don't listen to it a ton anymore

[shy umbra]

The beginning is ehhhhhhhh

The singing is so good tho

[real frigate]

i like the rap but i also really like nf

so im just gonna like this song lmao

[hardy imp]

remember when nik reacted to nf?

[spark scarab]

ok prequel is growing on me

its still very formulaic

[gilded estuary]

Ronald McDonald

[twin pasture]

Ahhhhh

It took me a minute

The McDonalds clown and Tom MacDonald

Double Entendre

[shy umbra]

Listen to CHXEU

[twin pasture]

on it chief

[timid mesa]

prequel is alright, it’s an NF song and NF is good, BAD GUY is just bad, the lyrics are lethally awful, same with NO FEAR it’s just him complaining, idk why he turned into $uicideboy$ at the end of the song tho

ronnie needs to stop “conquering genres” cuz ts ain’t it

With the exception of Watch The World Burn, which i think is still the best song on the album

[real frigate]

i quite enjoy trigger warning for the chorus

prequel is if NF got a bit more angry and added guitars/breakdown at the end

although the ending is less of a breakdown and more of a atmospheric guitar shit

the ending is super sick

want more of that in modern metal

[whole wagon]

Honestly in my opinion, bad guy is the only really egregiously bad song on here

The singles are fucking amazing

But the other ones just feel rushed

I love no fear and prequel, but bad guy is beyond shit, and trigger warning is just a copy of every single shinedown song ever released

[real frigate]

agreed

bad guy is fucking terrible

no fears ending is pretty fucking stupid

but i find it funny

[real frigate]

the whole trigger warning thing is prob why i like the song

i love shinedown

own a record of theirs

but its a bit different in style

same structure

[whole wagon]

Me too honestly. But it just feels like blatant copying to me. Like Ronnie claims he’s original in everything he does, but at the same time just steals shinedowns work

Just rubs me the wrong way

[whole wagon]

Honestly the transition between all my life and Ronald kills me everytime

[mint bloom]

It's great right?

[mint bloom]

I agreed, I think it could have been more, but it's the lyrics that kind of kill it for me

[whole wagon]

Honestly more upset he played bad guy live but not no fear

He also didn’t play trigger warning

[real frigate]

trigger warning is one of the best songs on the record

i just like the piano instead of the breakdown

its fresh

[chilly forge]

I don’t know if this is just me but does prequel sound like nf hope to anyone else

[velvet heart]

I called it an nf ripoff yes

And i already dislike nf so this was even worse

[twin pasture]

yeah it's dogwater

coming from a guy who doesn't despise ronnie

[whole wagon]

Honestly bad guy is growing on me

It’s one of those songs that’s infinitely better live than on record

Like on the record it sounds better after you listen to it live

[craggy arrow]

Great album

[whole wagon]

Agreed

[real frigate]

I love nf so I love prequel

It goes so hard

[whole wagon]

Idk NF at all, but I love prequel

[fierce zealot]

Does anyone want a ticket to the show in SLC tomorrow/aug 25? My ride had to cancel and I can’t get there any other way😔😔

[fierce zealot]

Willing to give it for free cuz resale is off and at this point i just want it not to get wasted lol

[velvet heart]

Guy from fortnite

[low cosmos]

This is a stinker of an album

Bad guy is the worst shit I’ve ever heard istg

Genuinely horrific

😭

The best part of the album is when it’s over. Silence hits hard ngl

[swift shoal]

Trans holocaust is crazy

Ight ima sum up my thoughts on each of the new tracks as I listen to them

So prequel has a decent instrumental but Is let down by Ronnies inability to rap at the start and pretty cringe lyrics and delivery 4/10

Bad guy has extremely basic and boring songwriting and sorta just repeats the same melody over and over again, vocals are good in the chorus but pretty awful everywhere else, lyrics give me similar vibes to this gif:

https://tenor.com/view/funny-emo-wolf-werewolf-transform-gif-27196401

Just the most pg rated fake edgy shit ever

4/10 song as well

No fear started off pretty good with some nice flows and half decent lyrics with a pretty sick beat / production and a decent hook as well

Then he had to ruin it by turning into an ai rendition of a suicideboys song and auto tuning his vocals over it 💀

This one gets a 6/10

[mint bloom]

Bruh...I hope for you Ronnie doesnt read this. He will sue you

You are pro cancelling and against free speech for talking about this album like this

[swift shoal]

Nah bro all I’m doing is exercising my free speech innit

Trigger warning 100% has the best vocals and production of all the songs so far, songwriting is a bit basic but it works and keeps things reasonably interesting. Lyrics are a tad cringe but at this point I’ve come to expect that. I would give it a 7/10

[mint bloom]

I dont know. Ronnie is pro free speech but sueing Fantano

[swift shoal]

Ronnie is a dumbass

[mint bloom]

Yes I know

[swift shoal]

I like fantano but he has pretty bad taste in metal

His pop and rap reviews are solid tho

But anyway I can’t remember 100% what the rest of the songs on the album are like but from what I can remember I think it’s maybe a 5 or 6/10 overall

Best song for me is either watch the world burn or all my life

Worst song would be bad guy

[twin pasture]

Jesus Christ I made a huge mistake posting this album in here lol

Getting thread locked speedrun any %

[mint bloom]

Yes, shouldnt promote this

[twin pasture]

my bad lmao

I just wanted to see the duality of how some people actually like this and other actually despise it

[mint bloom]

The very few people actually liking this restored a bit of faith in humanity

[twin pasture]

I mean it's alright lmao

[mint bloom]

People have bad taste, but not THAT bad

[pallid patio]

I am really waiting for this

Followed it for only reason

[twin pasture]

I mean the duality

not the album lol

it's dogwater

[mint bloom]

Lmao

[pallid patio]

Duality?

Like I push my fingers into my eyes?

[mint bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/eye-rub-itchy-gif-17231527

[twin pasture]

yes

[pallid patio]

Nais

[twin pasture]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[pallid patio]

Now push em in

[mint bloom]

Lmao

[pallid patio]

Puncture those eyeballs

Cry blood

[mint bloom]

Its basically me when my eye itchy

[twin pasture]

Anyway back to

whatever

whatever it was before we

pushed fingers into out eyes

[twin pasture]

the singles are the only good part of this thing

Look say what you will the singles were good

the non singles suck ass

look if Ronnie just shuts the fuck up and makes metalcore

falling in reverse would NOWHERE be as hated as they are

[mint bloom]

Also change lyrics

I mean...in a way this album is authentic

Its truly a reflection of the artist, hence its pretty shit

[twin pasture]

that's what I meant when I said make metalcore

[swift shoal]

Bruh all I did was give my review of it

[twin pasture]

Like even if they did generic usual core things

They are talented musicians they can pull it off

[twin pasture]

I never said anything about you lol

[swift shoal]

Oh I thought you were referring to all the stuff I had wrote lol

[twin pasture]

no lmao

[swift shoal]

Lyrics are sometimes decent but most of the time cringe

[twin pasture]

I meant it in the context of how fucking hated Ronnie is and how if this thread gets heated enough

its gonna get locked down like in the case for Thy art is murder and Immortal Disfigurement

[swift shoal]

I do like the overall sound/vibe of the album though, that and how catchy certain parts are are its strong points

[twin pasture]

That's the only good parts

the singles were good is all I'm saying

I think FIR should stick to metalcore lmao

[swift shoal]

Nah ronnies vocals have some good moments

[twin pasture]

he's really fucking talented as a vocalist

have to give credit where it's due

he's a good musician just a shit songwriter and human being

[swift shoal]

I’m yet to see anything that makes me personally think he’s a bad person

[twin pasture]

Look fantano was wrong in saying that Ronald was bad , yeah the lyrics were awful and Tech's verse was just shit

[swift shoal]

He’s just kinda cringe and whiny sometimes

[twin pasture]

but like the instrumental was fucking good

and saying that the riff is a Slipknot ripoff is just a huge reach

[swift shoal]

Ronald is a goofy song but it’s fun tbh

[twin pasture]

yes exactly

[swift shoal]

Fun ≠ good

For fantano anyway

[twin pasture]

yeah precisely

[swift shoal]

But his takes on metal are always pretty bad

[twin pasture]

Makes me laugh honestly

the way he shit talks his haters on ig

I mean used to

[twin pasture]

Anything less than 8 for loathe is just wrong straight up wrong

not even subjectively

and not only for mainstream stuff , he gave my fave black metal band diabolic immanence a 6 when it's a 8 at worst

I get music is objective but the last good take fantano had was knocked loose being a 9

[swift shoal]

Haven’t heard them before tbh

[mint bloom]

I dont agree with Fantano plenty of times, but he nonetheless substantiates his opinions quite well

[twin pasture]

yeah true

[swift shoal]

I think a 9 is too high for that album lmao

[twin pasture]

I feel like fantano doesn't have a background in some of the genres he reviews

[mint bloom]

So I think hes quite a good reviewer

[twin pasture]

He's a good reviewer

[mint bloom]

Evemln certain albums I like and he dislikes I can follow his position perfectly fine

[twin pasture]

he just doesn't get the stuff

[mint bloom]

Therefore its funny when he goes full in

Like on Sleep Token and FIR

[twin pasture]

yeah you can't hate him for his opinions all I'm saying is he has a different background and taste

[swift shoal]

He seems to know more about rap and pop

[twin pasture]

I think his mgk reviews made me laugh my butt off

[swift shoal]

His reviews are much more solid when it comes to those genres

[twin pasture]

precisely

also Lingua Ignota is boring change my mind

(he gave them a 10)

[mint bloom]

I think he has a good grasp of metal in the context of the entire musical landscape and its history actually

Hes just not a big metal fan

[swift shoal]

Yeah

[twin pasture]

not questioning that one bit honestly

[mint bloom]

So he is slightly critical when it comes to the stuff that 'metal normies' enjoy

[twin pasture]

he's more of a hardcore guy tbf

[mint bloom]

Yes

[twin pasture]

like he rates hardcore stuff pretty high as compared to metal

[swift shoal]

It’s the same way that because I’m not a fan of djent I wouldn’t give any meshugga albums higher than like a 6/10

[mint bloom]

Unlike Finn McKenty Fantano comes with good faith I think

[twin pasture]

THIS^

[twin pasture]

Precisely

[mint bloom]

Yes

[swift shoal]

Even tho objectively something like catch 33 is a 9/10

[twin pasture]

don't get me started on him lmaooo

that guy despises modern metalcore

[swift shoal]

Finn mostly talks shit about metal for comedy value

[swift shoal]

At least he appreciates some of the talent behind it

[twin pasture]

invent animate slander was ragebait

[swift shoal]

Yeah

I think there was some truth in it though

Imo they are very overhyped

[twin pasture]

it's good music my guy

[swift shoal]

I’m just not into it 🤷‍♂️

[twin pasture]

it just takes a few listens

yeah to each their own

coming back to fantano

He gave stranger fruit by zeal and ardor an 8

[swift shoal]

Bruh I listened to heavener like 5 times trying to get into it lol

[twin pasture]

Black metal fused with African folk music gets an 8

[twin pasture]

what do you normally listen to

You said you don't like djent so that explains it

[swift shoal]

Yeah really technical djent I’m just not a fan of

[twin pasture]

Gotcha

[swift shoal]

I can Ofc appreciate the talent and whatnot behind the music but it’s not something I personally enjoy

[twin pasture]

Heavener? I hardly know her

[swift shoal]

Wha

[twin pasture]

Like I appreciate lamb of god but never been a huge fan of them

[swift shoal]

How do you spell it then

Wait I did spell it right

What do you mean

[spark scarab]

Heavener deluxe songs were fantastic, never got into the main songs tho

[mint bloom]

I agreed with Finns overall view on Heavener in the sense its nothing new, but its so well executed that I really enjoy them

[gilded estuary]

stink

[swift shoal]

I wish Finn still uploaded 💔

I understand why he quit tho

[gilded estuary]

if the lawsuit was titled Kanye's Reform, Fantano would give it a 10

[twin pasture]

To pimp a lawsuit

[mint bloom]

Cause a lawsuit is still better than more music from Ronnie

Stay strong Fantano

❤️

[gilded estuary]

I believe in mr fanta

mr fanta got this shit in the bag

https://tenor.com/view/fanta-orange-fanta-soda-gif-5818976908685957632

[mint bloom]

For sure

Lol

Judge will listen to review and the album and say Fantano was pretty nice considering

[gilded estuary]

"Fantano gave a Juice WRLD album a 5, lock his ass up"

[timid mesa]

agreed tbh, just make good metalcore instead of whatever this shit is

[twin pasture]

yes

[snow lichen]

Album is aight, most songs are good, just it's got weird transitions but that's all tbh

Some of you really need to learn to seperate the artist from the art and check your blood pressure

[mint bloom]

Like Ronnie?

[gilded estuary]

album was rather mid

6 was what I originally gave it

[swift shoal]

Bruh if you wanna hear good metalcore go listen to architects or something, encourage bands to have their own unique sound (even if you don’t like it) or everything will end up sounding the same 🙏

If there’s anything the metal scene needs it’s more diversity imo

[gilded estuary]

and this was the overall ranking

[gilded estuary]

^ this on god

ronnie is a manchild and if you let that sway you from listening to an album or avoiding the band all together, you have bigger things to worry about in life

it's not like a situation where it's NSBM or some Lost Prophets type shit... it's just a manbaby who make cringe shit online, nothing more, nothing less

[swift shoal]

Respectable

[mint bloom]

Its just the big ego + very mid music + douchebaggery thats off putting

[timid mesa]

i agree to a certain degree but fir can totally pull off great metalcore with experimental elements, i just think that a they put this genre bending to a point where it has no cohesion, not to mention that his rapping is just not that good.. band has hella potential if they play to their strengths instead of this tbh

[mint bloom]

I rather listen to mid music from a decent person

Than mid from a D-bag

[gilded estuary]

good portion of it will always be like that for bands. As long as they arent directly stating an ideology that people should follow like in NSBM, then it shouldn't be a big deal

I love signs of the swarm and CJ is a piece of shit, and I still listen to the album he was on cause it slaps

same with Immortal from Lorna... CJ is a fuckwit and that album is still considered my favorite Lorna album

[mint bloom]

Its not feasible if the main man opens his digital piehole this much

At least Michael Jackson did his stuff in private

[swift shoal]

I prefer a band experiments and fails as opposed to just doing the same thing as everyone else in fear of failing

[mint bloom]

Until court case came out

[gilded estuary]

it shouldn't have to matter what they do outside their music, cause music is unniversal to give emotions about. Not to avoid based on one single person. If that was the case, then 40% of music in current modern metal must be avoided

[swift shoal]

Are you really comparing being a pedo to making edgy jokes on twitter ☠️

[gilded estuary]

^ this

💀

[mint bloom]

You can listen to it, but the whole seperate the artist from the artist

[gilded estuary]

separate the art from the artist only doesnt apply to certain things

[mint bloom]

Nah not really but Ronnie is looking for negative press

[gilded estuary]

NSBM, and Lost Prophets type shit are really what Separate the art entails to

[mint bloom]

He makes sure it is known is an asshole so its part of the package

[swift shoal]

It’s just marketing strategies

[mint bloom]

I think he should be judged on that

[gilded estuary]

he's done this for the longest time

and you know what, it works out for him

[swift shoal]

Gets more attention = more people listen to his music = more money

[mint bloom]

Just like black metal ia judged for aesthetics and appearence

[gilded estuary]

cause people hate-listen to it, and spread it online meaning people will be likely to check it out

which gives him money

[mint bloom]

Yes so that means your argument is not working out

[swift shoal]

Yeah, it’s genius honestly

[snow lichen]

Exactly except i do the opposite tbh, i just listen to the music and avoid things said on twitter, cause let's be real, if you're already in twitter, the problems are already there

[mint bloom]

Even Ronnie doesnt want the artist to be seperated from the art

[swift shoal]

Yeah obvs

[mint bloom]

So his music should be judged even according to his own strategy in part by who he is or what he says

And based on that, its very bad

The music itself is already not great

[gilded estuary]

I just laugh at what ronnie does

because it's literal rage-bait

[swift shoal]

90% of his lyrics are him talking about the controversies he’s envolved in, so it’s basically impossible to seperate him and his music

[gilded estuary]

he says he does no wrong and makes good music, i can judge if he makes good music or not

[mint bloom]

Yes

[gilded estuary]

anyone can

it's opinion based

[snow lichen]

Then don't listen to it, why even be in this thread? Just to make yourself angry?

[gilded estuary]

people will sit here and tell me this is a god tier album and that's their opinion

[mint bloom]

Of course its opinion based

[mint bloom]

From what do you infer im angry?

[swift shoal]

And it works lol

[mint bloom]

Im not suing anyone

[gilded estuary]

people said that A7X's recent album is the best shit they put out.... and I think it's some of the worst they've ever made.

[swift shoal]

Me vs fantano

[gilded estuary]

I agreed with fantano in that review on god

[swift shoal]

Acc I like self titled more

[gilded estuary]

and I never agree with him on any metal review

[snow lichen]

The amount of messages you said in not even a minute

[mint bloom]

Yeah it was terrible imo

[mint bloom]

And from that you infer Im angry?

[swift shoal]

Did you read the messages ☠️

[mint bloom]

Nice

[gilded estuary]

if I wanted something more prog based that's actually good, i'd go listen to BTBAM

[swift shoal]

Y’all normies just don’t understand how advanced libad is smh my head

[mint bloom]

Yes I think A7X ambition for their album didnt match their abilities tbh

They wanted to do something very experimental but they just dont have it

They definitely can write some good prog adjacent stuff tho

[swift shoal]

Self titled is a great example of that

[mint bloom]

Or The Stage

[swift shoal]

City of evil also had some prog influence

[mint bloom]

Yes

[swift shoal]

The stage was very progressive

[mint bloom]

Was it? I mean compared to some earlier stuff Id say so

[gilded estuary]

i've stated clear as day that "They put more effort in their dogshit NFT's than the entirety of the recent album"

and that's sad

[swift shoal]

Yeah by a7x standards it is

[gilded estuary]

and i'll still live by that shit I said

[mint bloom]

Even I wouldnt be that harsh lmao

[swift shoal]

Yeah I like how the album was kinda rough around the edges here and there but it verges on just laziness

[mint bloom]

I think they just listened to Mr. Bungle once while being drunk and said 'we can do that'

[gilded estuary]

nah, when we get a song like nobody and then we go to a song called (o)rdinary, it becomes apparent they had no idea what they wanted to do at all

and I love prog like that

[mint bloom]

To than showing they couldnt do it

[swift shoal]

Watching interviews of Matt talking abt it idk whether he’s just waffling or actually knows his shit

Cause he seems very passionate about it but idk

[gilded estuary]

honestly, the sound was there. If they actually laid off the drugs and NFT's, they coulda made something unique for them in a good way

instead we got something uniquely shit

[mint bloom]

It sounds like bro bar talk when Matt is talking about it

[mint bloom]

'Bro, you know what would be cool...like experiment with like sounds and stuff and thats like music

[gilded estuary]

"bro.... I have a fucking killer idea!! Space"

"but instead of making music, we make it while on drugs"

[snow lichen]

Personally i really liked it, especially hearing most songs live

[mint bloom]

'Nobody did it before!'

[gilded estuary]

"we would be the first ever stoner rock band in the world!!!"

[swift shoal]

I love Matt ❤️

[snow lichen]

I'd even argue it's my favo a7x album, atleast most played for sure (even after all this time)

[gilded estuary]

honest to god... people shit on Hail To The King... but then praise LIBAD

how does that work???

[swift shoal]

I like both

[snow lichen]

Both are good

[gilded estuary]

HTTK did a great job at introducing more people to modern metal, and it sounded clear and actually good... now granted it's not their best at all but holy fuck

[swift shoal]

I think it’s bc httk is basic whereas libad is experimental

Some people don’t like basic

[gilded estuary]

I get that

[snow lichen]

I have city of evil, nightmare, selftitled, hail to the king and life is but a dream on cd for in my car

[gilded estuary]

but there's more they coulda done experimental wise

[swift shoal]

Not really

Just needed better execution

[gilded estuary]

if anything, that album just made me want to go listen to Colors 2 by BTBAM

cause at least that album had direction, while this didn't really know what it want so it said lets do everything and see what happens

like... they were recording this shit for 2 weeks type beat instead of months to perfect it

[snow lichen]

Well it kinda worked, i mean cosmic is my favo track of them by far

[swift shoal]

What’s your favourite a7x album?

[gilded estuary]

Nightmare or Self Titled

[swift shoal]

Respectable

[gilded estuary]

I only liked 2 songs from that album as a whole. Hearing it for the first time made me rather sad

not that it was different, but it sounded not so good

[real frigate]

What?

Huh?

[swift shoal]

That’s what I’m saying

[mint bloom]

Poorly frased. Lmao I meant its easy to seperate the art from the artist when they dont bring their shitty character out in public

[gilded estuary]

but then this basically means that if it were the case, 40% of modern bands would need to be avoided by that logic

[mint bloom]

You cant seperate church burning and murder from Mayhem

[gilded estuary]

cause most artists are not the best of people

[gilded estuary]

it's so funny cause all of that was from varg... who was not even the vocalist in the band

[mint bloom]

I mean you dont have to be the best but at least be decent in your public persona.

[real frigate]

I don't think using Michael is a good argument

Ever

[gilded estuary]

the thing is for me, Mayhem I could care less about varg and his shit, same with Burzum. But the thing is I think both projects are dogshit... so... that's on me

[mint bloom]

Why? Dude made bangers but was a bad person

[gilded estuary]

like I only care if the vocalist is a minecraft youtuber, or massive neo nazi who preaches nazi ideals in music

[mint bloom]

If theres any argument to be had about art and artist seperation thats the ultimate argument

[gilded estuary]

why would I seperate or not listen to them?

[mint bloom]

Hes the best selling artist

[gilded estuary]

oh wait yall talking about MJ

[swift shoal]

Ion really care tbh if they make good music I’m probably gonna listen to it

[gilded estuary]

how it is with me but with the two things listed

hard to separate the art from the artist when the beliefs are in the art itself

[swift shoal]

Minecraft YouTuber is very advanced humour

[gilded estuary]

it's short for Lost Prophets

[swift shoal]

True true

[gilded estuary]

that kind of shit I do not ever want to hear

if someone like the vocalist is on par with that, I don't want to hear the music

[swift shoal]

Bruh not that band

[gilded estuary]

you know what I mean when I say that

[swift shoal]

Yeah that’s a very extreme case

[gilded estuary]

im not singling out the entire band

[swift shoal]

No Ofc not

But I wouldn’t wanna listen to a band where the frontman is who he is

[gilded estuary]

same

2 very reasonable cases

[swift shoal]

Yeah

As long as the artist isn’t a genuinely awful person I’ll always give their music a fair chance

[gilded estuary]

they would have to do some of the worst shit in human kind for me not to listen

or are an NSBM band

[desert saffron]

People still discuss this microwave album and the failspiral of Ronny? Wow well okay

[gilded estuary]

it's a pretty wild album ngl

[hushed obsidian]

You know what, I haven't listened to this yet

I'm bored, sooooo

Let's give this a listen

[gilded estuary]

ain't missing much at all

[hushed obsidian]

Dear Diary. Dang, Ronnie ripped off Bring Me the Horizon's Post Human: Survival Horror.

[spark scarab]

Imma be honest, if the singles were new and came out with the album, I would consider this a really good album

[hushed obsidian]

As an album package, I'm convinced that it was an afterthought

[spark scarab]

Yeah it's basically a compilation of singles

[hushed obsidian]

Prequel's actually a pretty good intro

[spark scarab]

The prereleased ones being pretty dang good

[real frigate]

yes

prequal is a good song

[hushed obsidian]

It's good at building into the album

[real frigate]

as an album this isnt great but its a single collection

so whatever

[spark scarab]

My issue with prequel is that it "leads into an album" which is barely even an album

[real frigate]

just like how imminence was

[spark scarab]

Worldbuilding and storytelling in prequel mean nothing when the rest of the album doesn't fit any theme or story

[real frigate]

it seems like it goes into some epic ass song

[spark scarab]

Hey now that album slapped

[hushed obsidian]

I would argue the theme is "Ronald"

[spark scarab]

Why imminence catching a stray

[hushed obsidian]

It's a Ronnie-centric album

[real frigate]

it was fine as an album

all the songs were great

but they all sound the same

lol

[spark scarab]

It had a consistent theme

Didn't all sound the same

Big difference

[real frigate]

yeah man

huge difference

it just felt repetitive when i sat down and listened through

thats why i compared it to this

its just a single collection

which isnt bad its actually better if you are just slapping them into your playlist on shuffle

[spark scarab]

Imo they're on opposite ends of the spectrum if anything

None of the FIR songs fit together

[hushed obsidian]

Popular Monster (the song) is all right. Pretty much Octanecore

[real frigate]

its the song that kinda made octanecore

popular

[hushed obsidian]

Yeah, that's what I thought

[real frigate]

its the doomsday of octane core

lol

i like it but its overplayed

[hushed obsidian]

I actually like All My Life. It's just silly.

[real frigate]

my favorite is probably trigger warning

i just really like the instrumental mainly the piano instead of a breakdown

that was cool

[hushed obsidian]

He needs to stop overusing the word GO! though

Lol

Just going from country metal to Ronald is WILD

Also, I heard Jason Richardson did the instrumental for this?

[real frigate]

yeah

for ronald im pretty sure

[hushed obsidian]

I love gunshot breakdowns

[spark scarab]

all my life is a banger

and i dont know why

because i hate country normally

[hushed obsidian]

Because it's just silly

Gunshot breakdowns are awesome

[spark scarab]

i wish they ended up doing that neon zombie ep instead ngl

[real frigate]

make them popular again

of mice and men was doing it

then they stopped doing it :(

[spark scarab]

wonder what the plan was with drugs, losing my life, and losing my mind

[hushed obsidian]

What is Tech yapping about here I'm still confused

Another GO

A wild Alex Terrible appeared

I love how there's absolutely no chemistry or solid transition between songs, it's absolutely stupid

[real frigate]

no fear into last resort reimagined

lmfao

[hushed obsidian]

Looking forward to hearing something new

[real frigate]

no fear is atleast something slightly different from the rest

[mint bloom]

Great album, Ronnie absolute GOAT

[real frigate]

grat

[hushed obsidian]

I do NOT remember this trap part in Voices In My Head

To be fair, I've barely listened to ANY FIR outside of if I need a good laugh

[real frigate]

voices in my head was very nice when it came out

overplayed for me now though

[mint bloom]

Lyrics are pure poetry

[hushed obsidian]

Okay, something NEW

[spark scarab]

this is the other thing, why the heck is the album closer a cover??? (albeit very well done imo)

[real frigate]

i liked it

but its not a good closer

lmao

[hushed obsidian]

The trap returns

[mint bloom]

The man really tackles soul searching topics as a true novelist

[hushed obsidian]

He's the bad guy, the loner, the problematic fellow of psychopathy or something

[mint bloom]

Exactly

[hushed obsidian]

https://tenor.com/view/funny-emo-wolf-werewolf-transform-gif-27196401

[mint bloom]

A deep glance into the soul of the anti hero

[hushed obsidian]

Giving these vibes

YES, RONNIE, YOU'RE MELODRAMATIC

Watch the World Burn is kind of like Prequel

The instrumental at the end, I forgot how good it was

Another new one, TRIGGER WARNING

Honestly, decent rock vibes, OH MY GOSH PIANO BREAKDOWN

[spark scarab]

Bruh

How

[hushed obsidian]

Zombified's not bad, but it feels derivative. At least the instrumental's good.

https://tenor.com/view/puss-in-boots-wolf-puss-in-boots-the-last-wish-wolf-puss-in-boots-the-last-wish-pick-it-up-sword-fight-gif-27423366

Now for No Fear

No Fear's the worst one

Now to cut my life into Pizza

Okay

This album

was actually all right

It's by no means the worst album released this year, but it's also far from the best.

My final ranking

Slightly better than Wage War's album/10

Anyways, time to relisten to Opera

[desert saffron]

Cheats

[desert saffron]

It's a menu of microwaved singles and half finished/bad new songs ... Wdym its not bad?
Alright it's not bad okay ... It's dogpoopoo and makes no sense as an album ... They should stick to releasing singles
Also the cut my life into pizzas cover is ass

[hushed obsidian]

It could've been a lot worse. I'm looking at it more from an objectively mixed standpoint.

The second half is definitely where the dip in quality begins.

[desert saffron]

Well i lost every hope for this band after this albumrelease

[hushed obsidian]

As for the Last Resort cover... it's at least a unique take on the song. Plus, I believe it was at least covered out of a respect for Papa Roach. That, and it does tie into the theme of Ronald, the Popular Monster (since he decided to make it all about himself).

Come to think of it, this project really falls apart when it takes itself too seriously.

[desert saffron]

Worst album of this year for me ... Maybe before anberlin(got some nice ones tho)
And only coz i like the singles FIR released over the last YEARS, but i thought it may be time for at least the same amount of new bangers, not whatever this is
Selling yearold Singles again as a "New" album with little to no respectable (for real) new tracks ... yeah no

[pallid patio]

you are listening to it huh @hushed obsidian
good for you

[desert saffron]

Im going hate mode again lol
Gotta go listen to better stuff to calm down

[hushed obsidian]

I think, overall, is it an album I regret listening to? No. Is it an album I'll ever return to or put on loop? Probably not.

Can't deny, though, the production was very clean, even though I would've liked the instrumentals on certain songs to shine through a little more.

[real frigate]

It's just catchy so people listen

Ik my dad likes it

I don't think he has a clue about any of Ronnie's drama

He just likes it when Ronnie says GO followed by breakdown

[gilded estuary]

Octane

Rock and Hard music should just cancel out....

but hey I wont let them take away something

[muted anchor]

Ok I had so much excitement for this album because I loved the singles so much

Then basically the whole album had already been released

And the songs that hadn't been released were just meh

As an album I'd give this a 5 out of 10

[gilded estuary]

agreeable

I'd say 6 but honestly a 5 is probably the better route with it

[velvet heart]

I’d give this like

A 2

and those two points are from 2 singles

[desert saffron]

Doesnt even qualify as an album

[fringe forge]

In my opinion prequel was the best song

[swift shoal]

Yeah I’ve heard stuff released this year which was way worse

[whole wagon]

Honestly this is an amazing album. I’m loving it

Still kinda sad there just wasn’t more tho

Like I’d say for me, the ONLY problem with it is that he released the singles wayyyy before the album

Like every song on this album is banger, but I’ve heard 75% of this album

[velvet heart]

We mustve listened to different albums

[fringe forge]

Probably cause you could have listened to fashionably late or just like you or that astronaut album

Or the drug in me is you

[spark scarab]

I MET A GIRL AND I REALLY THOUGHT SHE LIKED ME

[whole wagon]

I TRULY THOUGHT THAT I HAD MET THE ONE

[fierce zealot]

IT WAS A FAIL, TO NO AVAIL