Feedback Requests

[formal hedge]

Are you using any transient shaping or no

[finite finch]

I think its cause of the triggers i added

I'll revise it out

[finite finch]

@formal hedge older mix

I think this ones brtter

Than the new mix

Kinda

Cuz I like my guitar tone here

[tepid adder]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1364664375654350849/1484273814450999397/PXL_20260319_192826569.mp42.mp4?ex=69bef2b5&is=69bda135&hm=a1a5c6528d726710ad9a8dfbc3698260a7823141486976019bf0d35a13afbefe&

no'one watch this

just @sturdy marsh

https://tenor.com/view/guitar-hero-playing-the-guitar-basist-lead-guitarist-guitarist-gif-12100289

this is me bro

[vale vapor]

huh

[finite finch]

@formal hedge i mastered the old mix

[formal hedge]

it's really loud

[finite finch]

thats might be cuz i didnt add limiter ig

what should do when it clips?, low volume with limiter?

[formal hedge]

I feel like it's a bit weird sounding you guys know why @vale vapor @balmy forum

[wraith hare]

snare is too loud

[balmy forum]

snare too loud and reverby, kick doesnt have enough click, guitars dont have enough high end, and there is not bass

[vale vapor]

snare is way louder than everything else

Kick is just a tiny thud

everything is just super quiet overall

You need to look at some mixing tutorials from the ground up

it sounds like you're missing a lot of the fundamentals of mixing

you need to practice balancing your instruments better

[versed remnant]

mix test slurp

[wraith hare]

lol i misread the track's name as changocovermixtest

[finite finch]

opinions?

@vale vapor

@formal hedge

[vale vapor]

drums sound significantly better than your usual

there's something clipping or distorting i think

the bass has a bit too much sub as well

[balmy forum]

that snare is sick hahaha

nice job at knocking off the plot in you

https://open.spotify.com/track/2ciYYljvXw3vJdWi6hkEfS?si=1feabe99deaa4d4c

[finite finch]

What is it?

I was thinking it is the bass

[finite finch]

Wdym lol

Oh

I see the ref

[finite finch]

@vale vapor

[finite finch]

@vale vaporhow do u usually mix metal vocals?

[runic adder]

He made a demo video a bit ago hold on

this

[finite finch]

I see now

Thanks

[runic adder]

np o7

[vale vapor]

EQ
Compression (moderate)
Compression (heavy)
Compression (smooth)
Dynamic EQ + De Ess
Verb and delay send

Sometimes i swap the smooth compressor with the last EQ

Sometimes i only use 2 compressors

[halcyon holly]

sometimes i do limiting

pro-l transparent, full lookahead, fastest attack and release

essentially a clipper with no distortion

make that makes sense

[vale vapor]

Same often times i'll put a transparent limiter on the vocal bus

[finite finch]

i tried

[vale vapor]

the guitar has like no low end, and the vocals are pretty hard to understand

are you using an ir on the guitars? it sounds like they have no ir

[finite finch]

Yes

[vale vapor]

Try a different IR

[finite finch]

K

[finite finch]

Abt the low end i think it haves

[vale vapor]

What?

[finite finch]

The guitar has lowend i think

[finite finch]

So uh my vocal chain is

[vale vapor]

It doesn't

At least, it's not audible in the file you sent

[finite finch]

Well ima fix that up soon

[finite finch]

Compression, distortion, eq iirc, de-esser

And abit of reverb

Except for the first scream it has ton reverb intentionally

Kind of

Also yeah im not proud on the guitar tone dw

[vale vapor]

EQ if you remember? LOL

You should def be EQing it

[inland zinc]

You should make the vocals louder in the mix instead of adding distortion probably

[finite finch]

Yes i did eq i forgot

[inland zinc]

Okay good LOL

[finite finch]

Are u the vocalist to unbroken reign?

[inland zinc]

I'm the harsh vocalist, yes

[finite finch]

These vocals go hard bro

[inland zinc]

Thanks!

Xenon is our singer

[finite finch]

Pretty good

[finite finch]

I'll try that then

Might have to check out the tutorial

From xenon

[vale vapor]

just make sure there isn't clipping on any tracks

[finite finch]

Is it clipping rn?

[vale vapor]

I can't tell, just make sure nothing is clipping in your daw

[finite finch]

Should i use this tutorial for help?

On vocals

[vale vapor]

Sure, though every vocal is different, and the EQ will need to be different for every voice type

[inland zinc]

Facts

[finite finch]

Yes i know that

[vale vapor]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBnClPJwqHM

[inland zinc]

Frightbox is goated

[vale vapor]

Facts

[finite finch]

Do i check out this one too?

[vale vapor]

Yes

[finite finch]

@vale vaporbetter?

[vale vapor]

balance is good, guitar still just sounds weird to me

[finite finch]

do u have good quality irs? maybe ones i have arent just that good for this mix

[vale vapor]

@finite finch

.

.

[finite finch]

bet

vocals saying: its just a matter of resistance, all the pain has been done, when i try to come back, its gone for long

dont judge me i wrote those randomly

[wicked berry]

guitars are alot better imo

with whatever ir you used differently

[finite finch]

I used mesa cab

That one

[wicked berry]

sick

[finite finch]

I should make vocals louder

Almost cant understand them

[vale vapor]

sounds a bit better, what's the amp you're using?

[finite finch]

Thallamp

[vale vapor]

It sounds like you have the mids turned up all the way

[finite finch]

Thats cuz of the ir

[vale vapor]

that IR doesn't sound like that on my amp

[finite finch]

Mids are not bringed up at all

In the eq

Just like 3db

Or 4

[balmy forum]

less reverb, come up more, less high mids

[balmy forum]

oh damn thats who you are

[mint acorn]

Is this remix ass ?

[shut igloo]

@wicked berry @runic adder @versed remnant @tribal orbit

made a track after solid 3 months i think

let alone in metal genre

what do yall think of the riffs and mix

[versed remnant]

I fuck with the riffs

Your rythym feels a tad muddy

Maybe cut some some low and boost a bit of the high end like 8k+ to brighten it a tad

The mix is pretty good

I’ll take another listen later in my studio so i can hesr things better

The riffing is sick though

[shut igloo]

Aight lemme try

Snare sounds good tho right?

[shut igloo]

Prolly cuz it's an 8 string

[versed remnant]

On my phone speakers mostly but i’ll give more feedback when i get i to my studio tonight

[shut igloo]

Alrightyy

[versed remnant]

Yeah when i’m doing super low tunings i’ve been bosting the 8k hella and not cutting but dratically turning down my like 200- frequencies and sidechaining to my bass since i usually mirror my guitar riff with the bass so the bass takes care of the low area more and it feels less muddy

Usually only when i do 8 string tunings tho

However my seven string is also nsturally pretty dark

I do 8 string tunings on it and and 7 string tunings on my dinky bc i love how it sounds with the split coil 4th position

Drop G# periphery my beloved

[shut igloo]

Split coil sounds heavenly

[versed remnant]

My dinky is super bright tho so i don’t need tk do this

[versed remnant]

YESSS

[shut igloo]

I got this cort kx 508ms

The coil switch and middle pickup position

Sounds out of this world

With a clean tone

Holy shit itbfelt nice playing guitar after a long time

I think I picked up guitar after a solid month or so

[finite finch]

redid vocals

and added new ones

[shut igloo]

@versed remnant check it out

[shut igloo]

bro this is such a bop holfok

holyfok

[finite finch]

thanks !,

[runic adder]

pluh

a ping

[shut igloo]

listen to this disposal

[shut igloo]

mb gng

[runic adder]

nah idm

been a minute since someone pinged me here

[shut igloo]

aight aight

[shut igloo]

been a while since i last posted here too

[vale vapor]

mix is very weird to say the least

everything sounds quiet and kinda weird

muffled overall

[vale vapor]

cymbals way too loud, kick and snare could come up a bunch

guitars are kinda muddy with the bass

[mint acorn]

There was basically zero mixing done I just kinda threw it together so far

[vale vapor]

ah, not sure how i feel about it lol

[shut igloo]

@vale vapor check this one out

[balmy igloo]

900 hours in windows movie maker

[finite finch]

accidentally made argent metal

@formal hedge thoughts?

[formal hedge]

Beginning synth is weird w/o context

Drums sound dubstep-ish

Guitar sounds weird but it's programmed so it makes sense

[finite finch]

Is the guitar tone good?

[formal hedge]

Not terrible

What are you using

[finite finch]

Thallamp

[formal hedge]

Honestly I would recommend trying something else

Thall Amp is weird sounding most times

[finite finch]

Most amps are very cpu intensove tho

Intensive*

[formal hedge]

Neural Amp Modeler isn't, neither is standalone amps with no pedals like LePou bundle

Some of the LePou amps can sound kinda iffy though

[finite finch]

One instance of nam is 60% my cpu iirc

[formal hedge]

DAW?

[finite finch]

Im cooked, fl studio

[runic adder]

Vro 🥀

[formal hedge]

Yeah you're fucked on FL

[runic adder]

Use reaper

It’s infinitely lighter than like most other daws

[finite finch]

Yes but i dont get how to use reaper at all

[formal hedge]

I was like him once too, I even bought it

[formal hedge]

There are tutorials on YouTube

https://youtu.be/_shjd4GBILo

Also recommend stuff from Reaper Mania

[cerulean storm]

Some updated songs for the album I'm working on. Haven't done the vocals yet, but I'm gonna try to records some soon. Also, I make everything in my bedroom, so pardon if the quality is a bit meh.

[vale vapor]

https://tenor.com/view/dancing-parrot-animal-dance-dancing-cute-gif-1183407541907959992

[cerulean storm]

Reaper is great, man. It's very simple once you learn the basics.

[formal hedge]

I initially didn't like NAM because there were rumors that it was AI but the tones are insane

[finite finch]

How much did it take u guys to learn it

[formal hedge]

No time at all compared to FL

Like a week

Where as FL took me a year

[cerulean storm]

Idk, I don't really think you ever stop learning.

[vale vapor]

https://tenor.com/view/gumball-caveman-stupid-mango-gif-17657901353026407470

It is "ai"

It's machine learning

Not the same thing as generative ai

Also not the same thing as an LLM

[formal hedge]

OK that makes sense

[vale vapor]

NAM uses machine learning to "learn" the distortion characteristics of an amp

Then applies that to a preset you can load

[formal hedge]

The fact that tone3000 just says "uses AI" makes it very unclear

[vale vapor]

There weren't any rumors that NAM is ai, because it "is"

[cerulean storm]

What is NAM?

[vale vapor]

It's actually so not unclear if you understand how ai works 💔

[vale vapor]

Neural Amp Modeler

[formal hedge]

Really good guitar plug in

[vale vapor]

Free machine learning amp vst

[cerulean storm]

I see

[vale vapor]

Makes 1:1 clones of real life amps that users capture of their own amps

[cerulean storm]

I use Gojira X

[vale vapor]

Its got nothin on NDSP amps

[formal hedge]

5150 amp head plus a good IR is amazing

[formal hedge]

https://tenor.com/view/edp-i-mean-its-all-right-gif-26702511

[vale vapor]

You gotta formulate your own opinions 💔

You're just parroting literally eveything i told you

[cerulean storm]

I like it. Fits my music

[formal hedge]

Fair enough

[vale vapor]

Def an interesting take, i wouldn't think an amp fits any genre more than another

[cerulean storm]

What

[vale vapor]

Amps are not tied to a specific style of music for the most part, you can use any amp in any music

It's totally up to you

[balmy forum]

i made one if you want it

[cerulean storm]

I know, it just fits my sound.

[formal hedge]

NAM capture or that thing you made?

[balmy forum]

i dont recomend ndsp

[balmy forum]

nah standalone plugin

[formal hedge]

Got it

[vale vapor]

Well that's what I'm saying, i dont think any amps fit a specific sound

[formal hedge]

How's working on that going BTW

[balmy forum]

horribly, im just waiting for my gf to finish the UI design but i can figure out how to impliment it into the plugin

it also just started crashing now

so

[cerulean storm]

Btw I sent some songs earlier that I'd like to get some feedback on. I'm always left unsatisfied with my mixes.

[balmy forum]

nope. ew

[cerulean storm]

Why

[balmy forum]

its just

bad

[cerulean storm]

Well, I like it

[balmy forum]

unless you use a different cab it just sounds bad

[cerulean storm]

You got any other ones that's better?

[formal hedge]

XENON sent some really good ones in this channel

Lemme find the message real quick

[vale vapor]

Please ignore these two, they just parrot whatever opinions i tell them

Use whatever you want!

[formal hedge]

#1095992147968262144 message

[vale vapor]

I always talk about NAM and LePou so they have picked it up and that's all they talk about 🙃

[cerulean storm]

I see

[vale vapor]

I will always vouch for those over NDSP amps but you can use whatever you want

No reason to switch if you aren't having issues

[formal hedge]

I dislike most of the Lepou amps, but a few of them are decent (particularly LeXtac)

[cerulean storm]

Yeah, there's probably many better alternatives out there. I just don't have the budget for a bunch of plugins right now.

[vale vapor]

Oh, leppu and nam are free

[cerulean storm]

Oh really

[vale vapor]

I only use free plugins for guitar and bass tones

Yes

[cerulean storm]

Yeah I have a free bass plugin too

[vale vapor]

Yeah so do i 😭💔

SoftAmp PSA and BOD paired are amazing

With some compression and EQ it can sound incredible

The Growler is alright but more on the rocky side

[cerulean storm]

I have BOD, and some other thing I don't remember the name of😭

[formal hedge]

I dislike LeGion which is like your favorite right

[cerulean storm]

The Growler it is

[vale vapor]

It's alright but its more rocky, it can sound good if you pair it with another and split the frequencies

[formal hedge]

It's good from my experience if you turn off growl mode

[cerulean storm]

Yeah

[formal hedge]

Just hot mode is enough distortion

I use BASS TR from audio assault paired with EQ and MMS S-Drive

[cerulean storm]

Is everything well balanced here?

[balmy forum]

bitch wha

[formal hedge]

Exact chain would be
gate - s-drive - amp - subtractive dynamic eq

(I use pro-q 4 but any eq is fine)

[cerulean storm]

I wish I had that😭

[vale vapor]

You don't need pro q

Just use TDR nova or Fruity Parametric II

parametric 2 is genuinely so good

On par with pro Q

[balmy forum]

over priced asf, how did you even get it?

[formal hedge]

🏴‍☠️

Lmao

[balmy forum]

guitars are ducking alot

[formal hedge]

Isn't parametic II static?

[cerulean storm]

What could be the reason for that?

[balmy forum]

masterbus compression?

[vale vapor]

Pushing too hard into a limiter/bus compressor

[balmy forum]

or have you side chained the guitars

[cerulean storm]

No

[formal hedge]

Guitars in the clean section are a bit weird

Turn down chorus if it's on

[balmy forum]

have you used a limiter or comp on your master?

[cerulean storm]

Yeah. -3

[balmy forum]

then ease off the treshhold, see if that fixes it

[cerulean storm]

I actually have a limiter on pretty much everything cause the mixes always get so quiet otherwise

[vale vapor]

Turn up everything until it's loud, but not clipping

Use less limiters, more slight compression

[formal hedge]

Cymbals are really quiet on my end

[vale vapor]

For busses, use light compressors

[formal hedge]

Kick is also weird sounding

Guitar tone is slightly off

Not bad but a lil off

[cerulean storm]

How do you mean?

Lead or rhythm?

[formal hedge]

It's really high end heavy if that makes sense

Just do a high shelf on eq

[cerulean storm]

I've been trying to get the leads less "harsh" but if I cut away those frequencies they become very obscured

[formal hedge]

Saturation maybe? It removes transients

[vale vapor]

Do NOT saturate your guitar tone

Horrible advice

The amp is enough distortion

[cerulean storm]

I don't even know what that means😭

[vale vapor]

I would try a light EQ cut on the high end

But only the offending frequencies

[finite finch]

@vale vapor

Thoughts?

I feel like the guitar tone needs more mids i scooped it too much

[formal hedge]

I rarely scoop mids on guitar

It makes it thin in a full mix

[cerulean storm]

Same

[cerulean storm]

Idk if this is any better @formal hedge @vale vapor

[versed remnant]

back on my djent shit

I need to bring back those rythyms guitars holy shit

hopefully this is a tad better

[versed remnant]

working on some tone for quadtracking

[vale vapor]

still lots of ducking, especially on the cymbals

sounds like everything is being slammed into a limiter or compressor

drums are small sounding and narrow

overheads are also too loud

[vale vapor]

personal advice: don't quad track the same parts

it just sounds mushy, washy, and bad

even perfectly aligned guitars just sound really watery and lack punch and impact

if you want a thick wall of guitar, just do regular 100% Left and 100% Right guitar, with a GOOD tone

quad guitars also have a lot of phase problems

Just double track each part like normal

[wraith hare]

Facts

[balmy forum]

snare sounds very mid scooped

kick is very bassy and sounds like a ice cream tub

[inland anchor]

Some wewowewo stuff

[cerulean storm]

Idk how to fix this. Seems like I'm getting nothing right

I use limiters to make my plugins louder since as soon as I try to just turn up the volume they start clipping. Idk how to do it other than using limiters

[vale vapor]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0ZvecY-DNo

Now frightbox likes to go a little overboard with dynamics, personally i like to push mine a little harder than him, but it's up to personal taste

[cerulean storm]

What exactly is a drum submix?

This is my drums

[vale vapor]

A submix is a bus, or in reaper, a folder track

So it'd be the parent folder of all your drums

That looks to be "drums master"

Channel 44

[cerulean storm]

Oh, yeah I understand

[vale vapor]

I assume all your drums audio is going through that channel

[cerulean storm]

Yes

[cerulean storm]

So the loudness of the mix should be created in the master track?

Not the individual tracks?

[vale vapor]

Pretty much

Your tracks should be loud, but not clipping

[cerulean storm]

Yeah, it's just that almost as soon as I turn the tracks up just a little bit they start clipping

Idk how to prevent them from doing that without limiters

[vale vapor]

What do you mean by a little bit

[cerulean storm]

Like maybe +2-3db

[vale vapor]

Oh😭 twin that's the problem

You don't ever need to boost them above 0

[cerulean storm]

OOOOOOOOH

[vale vapor]

0 is not a low volume, 0 is whats called "unity" aka LOUD

The faders go down to negative infinity

0 is not quiet

[cerulean storm]

DAMIT 😭

How did I not know

Me stupid

[vale vapor]

You should learn more basics of daws and audio LOL

[cerulean storm]

Yeah

I just have no one that could teach me so I had to try on my own

[vale vapor]

You should watch frightbox's videos, he's the best honestly

Good for beginners

[cerulean storm]

But should I still have a limiter on my master track? I've had one set to -3db since idk how long on every song

I don't have that Ozone plugin he has

[runic adder]

Limiter on the master is typically during the mastering process but yes

Honestly in the mixing phase you should have your tracks be p quiet actually

[cerulean storm]

Hm, interesting

[runic adder]

I typically set my loudest element, usually kick or snare, to -10db and mix around there

Loudness comes from mastering

[cerulean storm]

I see

Wish someone told me that a year ago😭 💀

[runic adder]

Damn

[cerulean storm]

Do you mean -10db on your drum master track or something else?

[runic adder]

Sometimes, sometimes not

Sometimes I’ll set the drum bus to -10, sometimes it’ll be the individual drums I mess with

More often than not though I mess with the individual drum tracks

[cerulean storm]

How should I set a compressor on the master track?

I guess the stock plugin in Reaper is fine?

[vale vapor]

-3 is too low

The ceiling at -3?

Ceiling usually should be at -0.1

[vale vapor]

Always

[vale vapor]

I personally have all my faders default set to -8

I think -10 is a bit excessive but its personal preference

[runic adder]

maybe

the limiter on the mmaster is gonna bring it up anyway lol

i'd rathe the headroom so I can blow the mix out with a classic deathcore 808

[cerulean storm]

Too low? What should it be on then? My ceiling is on -0.1

[runic adder]

i typically set it to -0.2 lol

[cerulean storm]

Really

Doesn't it get really quiet?

[runic adder]

no

[cerulean storm]

What other plugins do you use in the master?

[runic adder]

limiter is at -0.2 on basically all my mixes

unless I deliberately try to go loud as fuck

[runic adder]

saturation (very light, as in 5% mix or smth like that), mb compression (sometimes), clipper, limiter, vanity eq so I can see the curves of the song

[cerulean storm]

Okay. I'm sorry but I don't know what a saturation, mb compression or vanity is😭 🙏

[cerulean storm]

Don't know if Reaper has something like that

[runic adder]

reaper has like everything

there's an expansion pack for reaper plugins somewhere, i might be able to find it

anyway though

[cerulean storm]

I think I might already have it

[runic adder]

saturation is a very common plugin/technique, adding harmonics on certain frequencies (quite literally saturating it with more harmonics, @halcyon holly could explain it better than I)
mb compression is short for multiband compression, essentially the love child of an eq and a compressor. You compress certain frequencies instead of the entire mix
vanity eq is just my name for it, I slap an eq with a spectrum analyzer (something like pro-q3 or reaper's stock EQ) and literally don't touch it at all. I call it vanity because all I do is look at it to gauge the mix

[cerulean storm]

Oh, I see. Thank you!

Does Reaper have something i can do mb compression with or is there something free I can use?

[fathom jewel]

reaXcomp

[vale vapor]

Might get flak for this but i do -0.01

Screw intersanple peaking

[vale vapor]

TDR nova, reaXcomp

Tdr nova is amazing, its an EQ + MB comp

TDR nova and ReaComp are easily my most used plugins

You can get a pretty great mix using only those two plugins

If i had to choose 2 plugins to keep and lose everything else, it'd be those two

[cerulean storm]

Thanks!

Any specific frequensies that are typically good to focus on for mb comp?

[vale vapor]

Literally any frequency that is awkward/causing issues

On rhythm guitar i almost always have a dynamic shelf at 150hz and below, which helps palm mutes not sound as boomy and muddy

Multiband comp aka dynamic EQ is just for taming frequencies that keep coming up, but aren't always present

so it listens for the offending frequency and turns it down whenever it goes above a certain set threshold

Just don't overdo it

You generally don't need to cut or boost a whole ton

Just slight sound shaping

[cerulean storm]

Maybe this sounds better @vale vapor @runic adder

[runic adder]

Idk where the original is so I can’t A/B it but this sounds good

[cerulean storm]

Thanks! Finally I'm doing something right

[versed remnant]

DREAM THEATER COVER

okay last audio file didnt work so hopefully this one does

Okay i NEED my drums to rout to a bus

Bc wtf is is going on

I need to knock the low end a bit

And turn them down overall

And to turn up that snare

That shit is NOT hitting

idk ab the snare tho

drums SHOULD be a tad better

im so bad at snare processing

@tribal orbit @vale vapor could either of you maybe slide some advice about snare processing

Like an exact chain

I’m so bad at it

It doesn’t hit

And it sounds so blocky

I feel like

I’m also just realizing i think i forgot to turn off the cab in my amp sim

For the heavy guitars

So i think i’m double cabbing

So i’ll change that when i go back downstairs

[vale vapor]

Are you using a raw snare sample

Or a processed one

[versed remnant]

Some processing but not a lot but all i even have going on is eq cutting some frequencies that were pissing me off

And some comp and gating

[vale vapor]

Literally all you need (usually!!) Is corrective EQ, cut out frequencies below 180 with a lowcut, compress a fair amount, possibly eq a little more, and that's pretty much it

Make sure you are USING ROOM MICS because room mics are the MOST important part of the snare

[vale vapor]

How much are you cutting those annoyings freqs? You could be cutting too much

[versed remnant]

Like 3~ db a piece

Give or take

They’re all in the like 200-600 range

Right above the body

I feel like thats probably whats making it sound boxy

[versed remnant]

I do have rooms going

I think i’ll try and turn up the room a bit more too

I feel like thats probably taking a lot of thr chsrscter and why its not hitting as hard as i want it to

[halcyon holly]

Great close mic tone, maybe lacking a bit of body. Sounds like you've removed far too much in the midrange of the snare. Also add back some upper mids and lower treble. What is missing here though is room mics

I always like to use the analogy: what is a snare sound without a room mic? it's a piece of wood (stick) hitting another piece of wood (shell), and thats exactly what this sounds like. Your snare sounds like a piece of wood hitting another piece of wood

The solution is really easy. Room mics, overhead mics and reverb.

Overhead mics capture the close reaction in the room from the snare, the room mics capture the ambience and room's reaction to the snare, and the reverb is an effect layer

[vale vapor]

Yep

Spot on as usual ross

[versed remnant]

HOPEFULLY i got it this time

[halcyon holly]

you are seriously, seriously underestimating your room mics' volume and seriously overestimating how loud your snare / kick should be in the mix

[versed remnant]

Room mics up close mics down

Is what i understand from that

I do also wanna say i mix using a shitty $100 keyboard as my speaker and a like $20 pair of headphones that sound like shit

[runic adder]

keyboard = speaker?

[balmy forum]

@vale vapor https://youtu.be/JgO4cfPzn64?si=yXcWKFNyH-T4SDIh what do you think of this mix

i want to make somthing like it but i dont know how to get that sound

[versed remnant]

It has the option to have audio inputs be played through the speakers

And i can’t afford monitors

My bank acc is still -$50

[runic adder]

i see

[versed remnant]

Yeah..!

I know people say gear dlesn’t matter but in my situation i fear it may be time for an upgradr

[balmy forum]

lol gear matters to an extent

[versed remnant]

Yeahhh

[balmy forum]

you dont need a $100000000000 SSL

[versed remnant]

I just need speakers that have more than just bass

[balmy forum]

but you def need at least a decent setup

[versed remnant]

And a computer upgradr bc my shit gets freezy

[balmy forum]

im gonna try to make somthing like this

i think im just only gonna use cla mix hub

prevent overprocessing

[vale vapor]

Its whatever

Not my style of music

[balmy forum]

tried to cover it

before you say its distorted as fuck

i know

lol

[finite finch]

so

how do i fix latency issues in reaper

[balmy forum]

buffer siz3

[finite finch]

bet

ill try it out

[fathom jewel]

ah yes, the smashed super clippy drums

im way too familiar with this drum sound, it's honestly a recurring mistake I still kinda make without even realising

it's the bonk sound on the snare after boosting the fundamental on the entire snare bus (including all the mics snare top, snare btm, snr room, snr mono overhead or whatever else), I only boost it on the snr top mic, and brighthen up the snr room track so that it doesn't muddy up the mix, I blend the snr bottom track very subtlely only if absolutely necessary.

when the snare bottom track piles up in the room mic snare wire track, it clips and sounds ugly, the additional clipping or limiting on the drum bus just amplifies that sound

usually all the shells and cymbals go to one room track, but routing them in a way that separates cymbals and shells with nothing bleeding into each other, gives more control to your drum sound and overall mix

spending more time on routing is so worth it, saving it as a project template in both reaper and the outputs within kontakt to use for later helps a lot

[young shore]

Doom type shi i made and never finished

[balmy forum]

its kinda intentional in this

https://open.spotify.com/track/1xB0QoH4jM6H2x5XouQzKo?si=78dc1b7ad92143ac this is my main inspo

[finite finch]

thoughts?

argent metal esque thing

[halcyon holly]

you're using...your keyboard...as a speaker?

Also i'll say it again, for £20 you can get IEMs that compete with like...£200-300 closed back headphones

So at that price range go IEMs, not headphones

[worthy sail]

i switched to reaper and learnt some mix stuff, any tips on changing this rn would be really appreciated. Also how do i actually make well written drums? i feel like mine suck

[livid frigate]

I think that sounds cool as fuck 🤘

[finite finch]

Ty!

[finite coral]

finished this finally

[blissful cliff]

That snare is nasty 🔥

[timber forum]

Looking for criticism, I’m new at this be nice 🤣😭

[finite coral]

drums sound very raw and that sub drop at 46 sec is so loud

[timber forum]

That was kinda the point. Going for an older Deathcore sound. I miss the 09 bass drops that contort the mix lmao. I’ll turn it down

Idk what else to do with the drums . I have like 5 different plug ins attached to it

[finite coral]

new vocal mix

[finite finch]

I think these still happen currently

I mean the sub drops that distort the shit off the mix

[timber forum]

Yeah! Couple newer revival bands are going crazy with them. Especially psycho frame.

[runic adder]

I need to drop a massive 808 lowk

I’ve got a revival song or two cookin up and that’s the piece that was missing

Thanks for reminding me

[timber forum]

Yeah I heard yours in the chats it’s very good. Mines very mid compared lol

@runic adder

[runic adder]

I mean yeah in this case it’s more of a difference in experience

[runic adder]

The guitars are thin and idk if there’s bass there

[timber forum]

I have no idea how to thicken them up, also I thought the bass was too loud. Hmm .. I have no idea what I’m doing there

[runic adder]

I mean a lot of that comes from the base tone itself, if it’s too scooped or too much high end is there it’ll sound thin

[timber forum]

I felt like the bass was being super muddy

[runic adder]

As for the bass thing, I’ll have to relisten when I get home cuz I’m wearing my workout buds rn, but yeah idk if I heard it

[timber forum]

This is why I stopped writing cause I got really discouraged lol, no matter what I did I could never get the right sound

Also don’t have the best plugins. Just bias fx 2 .. use to have the slate digital all access pass which was awesome but it got too pricey for me

[runic adder]

It happens

I think the whole “can’t get the right sound” thing happens to everyone, at least I get stuck there a lot too lol

You don’t need the best plugins

[timber forum]

Fair enough .. I think my biggest issue is learning a EQ lol

I feel like that would fix a good chunk of the sound at least

[runic adder]

You can do a lot with free shit, Reaper’s stock plugins and the free expansion, ffree plugins like analog obsession, you can get super far with all that

Learning eq def will get you far, learn the tools you’ll be using and you can make do with whatever you have

It’s more important to know what you’re doing than having all the high end equipment

[timber forum]

Thanks for the insight. No matter how many videos I watch it’s always “just use this eq from (insert expensive brand)” .. like bruh I just wanna learn how the frequencies work haha

[runic adder]

Yeah nah lol

I get it

But the principles behind most of it is the same

[timber forum]

Thanks dude

[runic adder]

Yah

If I can find specific examples I can point out I will, but for now all I got is vague statements unfortunately

[timber forum]

Understandable, imma gonna keep pushing and not give up this time. I feel I have a little potential and that is enough this time haha

[runic adder]

That’s the spirit

https://analogobsession.com/

I’d recommend these for free gear

[timber forum]

Hell yeah

[vale vapor]

He's on bandlab, that's the main issue

[runic adder]

is it an issue?

i just assumed bandlab is like web browser garageband

[balmy forum]

stop using buster kit

and did you use AI for the vocals?

[runic adder]

so much hate on buster drums 😭

[balmy forum]

i know, imo it just sounds fake and over used

[finite coral]

no

[balmy forum]

programed?

[finite coral]

no just vocal stems

[balmy forum]

huh ok

[finite coral]

no

[formal hedge]

It's a decent mix by Bandlab standard and it's definitly listenable, but if you want to go further I heavily recommend the (technically) free DAW Reaper

Pertty much everyone in the server uses it

[balmy forum]

Pt SoUnDs BeTTer

[formal hedge]

Never heard a reputable source say two DAWs have a "different sound"

[balmy forum]

becuase its not true

[formal hedge]

I don't understand that idea

[finite coral]

well its true for fl studio versions

[formal hedge]

I can make the same song in three diferent daws and you wouldn't know which is which

[finite coral]

sound engine is different

[formal hedge]

Like the variants?

[balmy forum]

no not really

[finite coral]

yeah

[formal hedge]

I know they have different plugins and such but not really

[finite coral]

mostly matters for 1 to 1 remakes

[balmy forum]

yeah but thats not gonna effect the export sound or quality

[balmy igloo]

44k vs 48k

[finite coral]

44.1 always

[vale vapor]

Still doesn't make an audible difference

[finite coral]

i didnt say it makes an audible difference

i said theres a difference 🤓

[vale vapor]

😭

This guy

[finite coral]

knows how to draw a perfect circle

[balmy forum]

audible gasp im not the one getting clowned on by xenon

[vale vapor]

Yes; no external vst support, even someone incredibly good at any daw would struggle to properly make a good mix in bandlab

[runic adder]

fair

but from bandlab it's not hard to pivot to cakewalk, so ill give it that

same company and free

[balmy forum]

lol, bandlab is actually not too bad, id say its a step below gb

[vale vapor]

Yeah if you're trying to make metal you aren't gonna have a good time with either

[balmy forum]

true lol

[balmy igloo]

really want to see somebody make metal in openmpt

[halcyon holly]

i actually quite like the drum tone

I mean maybe not the best mix

but the tone is there

[balmy forum]

im still yet to see someone make decent metal in ableton

[halcyon holly]

There's been a few i've met. Problem is the tools in ableton aren't always the best choice for our genre

[vale vapor]

Yeah, i keep saying that

[halcyon holly]

Like you really want a traditional mixer for metal

[balmy forum]

wdym, granulator is a perfect tool for a genre nothing to do with it

[halcyon holly]

I've spent about 5 hours in ableton trying to figure out wtf it's "workflow" actually is

lol

I mean usually within the first 30 mins of a daw you can figure it out, but it's pretty different from everything i've ever used

clearly live / electronic / sound design based

which is fantastic

(and can be fantastic for metal, too)

[formal hedge]

https://www.youtube.com/@BrendonKPadjasek

This guy does

He's in the band structures

[balmy forum]

yeah, its works for everything, i would be using reaper but ive already donated them my liver and im too deep to switch now

[formal hedge]

with vsts as well

[balmy igloo]

yeah drums sound good 👍

[halcyon holly]

Ableton is very verstile yes, it just works in a way that can be different from traditional daws

and it freaks people out

For metal? i wouldn't personally use it

and i mean like - me, personally

not like i don't reccomend it

if it works for you for metal, use it

hell, mick gordon uses fl studio

idk how he does that, mental guy

[balmy forum]

he does?

[balmy igloo]

good ol micky g

[vale vapor]

He uses like everything

I've seen some of his talks and he says he likes to use multiple daws for different reasons

Sometimes daisy chaining them

[timber forum]

Btw guys I’m not using BandLab! I’m using reaper, just use BandLab to share things cause it’s easiest for me.. everyone that said the drum tone was decent THANK YOU. I’m doing my best with what little knowledge I have

[balmy forum]

.

😂

[halcyon holly]

i believe he uses fl mainly

and pro tools for mixing

or atleast thats the last i heard of it

[balmy forum]

ew

[timber forum]

Are there any free IRs I should be getting?

[formal hedge]

This one is great in particular but since XENON doesn't like when we agree on things, many amp Sims include decent IRs within them

@timber forum

[timber forum]

Gotcha thanks

[formal hedge]

ML sound plugins, Neural DSP plugins (although I don't quite recommend them) and even NadIR itself have some

[balmy forum]

xenon gave me this one i love it

[formal hedge]

You can get some at tone3000, the official website for sharing IRs/NAM Profiles

[vale vapor]

LOL

[vale vapor]

Yeah go to tone3000 and get any mesa 4x12

The more downloads, the more popular they are

And that usually means they're better

[balmy forum]

its up to the user really

[vale vapor]

Yeah but some captures kinda suck cause someome did them wrong

More downloads = higher chance that it's a good, well made IR

[balmy forum]

how do you capture anyway

[vale vapor]

download their free program and send it audio through an amp of your choice

Or a cab

And it'll capture it

[timber forum]

You guys are awesome, sorry for so many questions

[balmy forum]

its all good dude, there is no such thing

[formal hedge]

BTW hardware amp sims don't get the light of day much, but this thing is really good https://nuxaudio.com/product/mg100/

[balmy forum]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA that is litterally sitting right next to me

[timber forum]

Imma try my luck tonight with a new IR and re-track the guitars. Taking a lot of considerations from you guys and from fright on yt

[vale vapor]

Frightbox is amazing

[balmy forum]

good luck!

[formal hedge]

What's your thoughts on it?

[balmy forum]

9/10, solid

[formal hedge]

I always thought you could only use presets on it and then I pressed edit

[balmy forum]

its a really good starting point

[timber forum]

Thoughts on amped roots? I know it’s old just checking

[formal hedge]

Really good

[timber forum]

Bettttt

[formal hedge]

Top 3 free amp sims

[timber forum]

What would be your other 2?

[balmy forum]

meh for me, i used it for a few years

[formal hedge]

NAM and Ignite Emissary

[vale vapor]

Best free amp sims are poulin/lepou + anything from NAM

NAM U

[balmy forum]

nalex ninja 1, nam universal orange dark terror model, roots

[vale vapor]

Neural amp modeler universal

Has some great captures

[timber forum]

Never heard of those. Excited to try them

[balmy forum]

ninja + this = the best tone ive had

i also made a free 5150 model that i edited a bit if you want it

[timber forum]

I’m not supposed!

I think I still have ninja installed from a couple years back

[formal hedge]

Never heard of Ninja, you mind sending an example of what it sounds like?

[balmy forum]

le poopoo

[formal hedge]

Oh it's a vst, I assumed we were dealing with HTML again

[balmy forum]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8EDqv3BvV0

[balmy forum]

nope!

[timber forum]

Is this a ir?

[balmy forum]

amp head vst

• fuzz and od pedal

[formal hedge]

IRs are always .wav files

A .vst3 is a plugin

[timber forum]

Don’t know how I didn’t see that lol

[formal hedge]

Probably not great for my style but I'll check it out

[balmy forum]

lol all good

[balmy forum]

html amp plugin lol

[timber forum]

With the tone3000 files, do they only work with nam or anything?

[balmy forum]

nah just any ir loader

nam is just reeeally good

nam UNIVERSAL

NOT nam

be carful hahaha

[timber forum]

lol glad you said that

What’s with the other one? Lol

[balmy forum]

its just more annoying to use

[timber forum]

Ahhh

[balmy forum]

bad ui and not as much customisability

@timber forum this is using the cab and my vst

[balmy forum]

this one

wtf happened to the verse?

[timber forum]

That sounds great !

[balmy forum]

and why is it clipping wtf

[formal hedge]

Your drums sound weird and almost EDM-like

I've thought this about several of your mixes

If that's what you're going for you're going for it's fine, but if not you need to take a major step back lol

No offense

[vale vapor]

I get you're well meaning but i think you probably need a little more experience in mixing before you start dishing out advice like that

I don't want to point fingers or be demeaning at all

[formal hedge]

Yeah that could come off a little rude tbh

[vale vapor]

Just genuinely i think you need more experience

For the amount of advice you give out

[balmy forum]

Bro what, no offence but I have no idea what you are talking about

[balmy forum]

do you think i have enoguh

jesus spelling

[timber forum]

Anyone on?

Is this better?

[runic adder]

Much

[fathom jewel]

chris bedan is an ableton user, he's making some bangers on his streams

[timber forum]

Okay newest mix here. Amped roots with new IR I found on tone 3000. No more clipping. Guitars now have dedicated DI tracks with a sub bus. Very minimal eq and compression throughout all tracks. Simplified mix using tips from frightbox. Let me know if it’s better please 🥹

[balmy forum]

turn your guitars up, add more high end, duck low mids

[formal hedge]

I can't hear guitars over bass

[balmy forum]

.

i wouldnt say that

yeah the bass is loud

doesnt mean the guitars are inaudible -_-

[timber forum]

Didn’t have much time before work but turned them up a little and added a little bit of high end, low mids were already ducked but I did a little more. Might be worse now but all I had time for lol

[balmy forum]

would you be willing to send me the stems to this?

it has the potential

[timber forum]

Yeah when I get home later!

Could be the guitar tone itself . I copied someone’s off YouTube cause it sounded good there. But once on here it’s nothing like it. Need to mess around with amp and mic on cab maybe?

[balmy forum]

noooooo dont do that

there is one thing that every one needs to learn

[timber forum]

Okay okay lol

[balmy forum]

you are going to be better if you find who you are and how you write, find your style and it will lead to better songs

trying to copy someone else will only ever get you half way there

[timber forum]

Yeah true. I just need to learn a little more. I did it more for just a base line. I was initially looking for an older Deathcore tone but any videos out now days is just the modern metal sounds

Only reason I used my own cab instead of what they were using

[balmy forum]

who knows, you might write metal for 10 years and find out your style is indie rock

thats what happened to me!

[timber forum]

Yeah lol

On a side note, is this at least better than the first one I sent? I’m just looking for little wins at this point hahaha

[balmy forum]

lol im sorry, i should have done that too

hmm, i beleve that the new tone is a lot better and its a lot better balenced

[timber forum]

Don’t be sorry bro you are helping me lmao

Cool cool, u didn’t virtually everything wrong on the first one. This one seems to have more potential for fine tuning and eq

[vale vapor]

Bud you were a baby 10 years ago

[balmy forum]

you know what i mean lol

[runic adder]

10 years ago i was writing shitty thrash metal lol

[timber forum]

okay.. now better? lol

[balmy forum]

soooooo much bettter

[timber forum]

yay

[balmy forum]

thats a really good mix bro, would recomend turning up your drum room and bass as well c:

[timber forum]

hell yeah dude.. thanks to your help man

do i need to map individual midi drums?

or just turn up room as a whole

[balmy forum]

are you multi routing your drums?

[timber forum]

nope lol

i got overwhelmed

[balmy forum]

ah, big issue

what drum kit do you use?

[timber forum]

ggd invasion

[balmy forum]

yeah definatly need to multi frouft

and i need spelling lessons

jesus

[timber forum]

lmao

[balmy forum]

do this!

[timber forum]

bettttttt

betterr question too.. where does the song go from here lmao

[balmy forum]

wdym?

[timber forum]

now i have tone right, i need to actually have more ideas

well i have intro and breakdown lmao

[balmy forum]

lol, try a chorus

also can i have the stems?

[timber forum]

problem is this type of deathcore dont really do choruses

or maybe i can to be different

how do i send you just the stems

[balmy forum]

reaper right?

[timber forum]

yes

[balmy forum]

do this for the drum midi

[timber forum]

sweet

[balmy forum]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLltl2nvsR8 do this for the others

[timber forum]

trying to figure out how to send

[balmy forum]

google drive or emails works

https://wetransfer.com/ you can also use this

[timber forum]

can you dm me your email?

[vale vapor]

Deathcore has choruses,just not melodic ones

Aka a hook

Its just a repeating part that's catchy

[balmy forum]

hahaha @vale vapor i just got lepou legion

this is so good

[vale vapor]

I'm sayin

Especially with a good IR

[balmy forum]

ive been using your mesa cab

[vale vapor]

Xenon type tone

Needs a tube screamer before the amp tho

[balmy forum]

it has one

[timber forum]

@vale vapor whatcha think of the new tone?

[balmy forum]

xenon would be proud

[timber forum]

able to get a couple more riffs down just for ideas. not where they are going to go probably. love that my guitar sounds halfway decent now lol

[formal hedge]

You play better/write better when you sound better. Something I found out from experience.

[formal hedge]

Also this is sounding pretty good.

[timber forum]

Thanks dude! Agreed!

[balmy forum]

bitch what

you sound likke the slogan to fivverr rn

[vale vapor]

What

[balmy forum]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/AfiP6BAz8VY

[sharp mountain]

lowk wondering how to minimize the amount of distortion i hear towards the end (3:16) with the kicks while preserving the current loudness

[balmy forum]

limiter?

good mix btw

[timber forum]

sounds good dude

[sharp mountain]

hmm, i might try that and compare it with the clipper currently handling loudness

also thank yall for those comments about the mix ^^

[balmy forum]

Do you not have a limiter on the mastering chain?

[sharp mountain]

yeah, but its after the clipper so i dont believe its doing anything

at least, since it doesnt have any peaks to deal with

[balmy forum]

Limiter always last

[sharp mountain]

mhmm, thats how i have it on my chain (i should have specified that earlier)

[balmy forum]

Are you using a master compressor

[sharp mountain]

yeah, at the very start of the chain

3:1, 240 ms attack, 320 ms release, but checking it rn, it isnt really applying any gain reduction

[balmy forum]

add a little

like this

look for 0.5-2db of GR and the limiters attenuation only shaving of the top

(this is the song, ableton cant record audio for some reason)

[sharp mountain]

okay yeah that improves the sound a bit

it does naturally lower the loudness a bit, and adjusting the input gain in my clipper does bring back some distortion, but it is lesser than before

either way thank you sm ^^

[balmy forum]

No problem c:

[timber forum]

This mix get worse or better? Practicing with the limiter and clipper to get it louder. I think it’s way to loud now

[timber forum]

Bring me vibes

[balmy forum]

perfect

[balmy forum]

have you multi routed your drums yet?

[timber forum]

No, I’m still trying to get guitar right first. I shouldn’t have asked how the mix was, more like how are the levels and guitar lol

[runic adder]

Still a mix question, so you’re right

Hold on I’ll listen in a minute

Nvm it’s not letting me listen to it on mobile

[timber forum]

Ah yeah mobile, here try this

Yeah my biggest thing right now is volumes and guitar tone. Once I finish a rough draft of the full song I’ll go back in and start tackling things one by one

[runic adder]

The balance is good yea

Same w guitars

Good job 👍🏽

[timber forum]

Sweeeeet

[finite finch]

another sketch using @balmy forum amp

the song is supposed to sound raw and dry like 2000s metalcore btw

[balmy forum]

yippie

[vale vapor]

guitar tone sounds pretty good, could use more low end. bass and drums really need to be addressed lol

[vale vapor]

kick is too loud and has too much sub, guitar sounds okay for it being midi, has a little too much mids

[finite finch]

Do i change ir im using or i change the amp settings?

[vale vapor]

just turn your mids down

in the amp

[timber forum]

yeah like i said def not messing with that stuff til i have a song im happy with. then work on making it more realistic and mixing

[potent depot]

Hey all. Just made a new demo on my new setup. Would like some feeback

[real harness]

Guys, I wrote a thing, which Im suspiciously proud of. For some reason Im enjoying the mixing of it, which i conducted, a bit too much, especially the heavy ending. I might be delusional, so please tell me of I am.

https://youtu.be/lFg1Rlmgfhw?si=Zh9wGSNvQlo8I6_P

[timber forum]

sounds dope dude!

[timber forum]

whata vibeeeee

[balmy forum]

really good. drums could come up and could use some more processing, they sound quite raw. are you multi routing them?

[potent depot]

Tbh I'm still pretty new to mixing and don't really have that much experience. What I'm doing to the drums is I'm using parallel compression with one raw track and one compressed track and blending them. I'm doing that based off a tutorial I saw on yt. Do you have advice to do it better?

[balmy forum]

what are you using for the drum kit

[potent depot]

Ml drums

[balmy forum]

ah, search up how to multi rout them

[potent depot]

Oh sorry, yes I do multi rout them

When I parallel compress I blend the two busses

[balmy forum]

ok cool. watch some videos on drum mixing

[vale vapor]

Frightbox >>>

@balmy forum resend that frightbox video i always send

[balmy forum]

what/

[vale vapor]

The drum mixing one

I sent it to you a while ago

[balmy forum]

i dont remember lol

[real harness]

Thx, means the world and more to me 💙

[balmy forum]

really weird and cool

i like it

oh jesus i just got to the blast beats

[real harness]

lol

[real harness]

But idk if id call it weird. I think it safely falls under the modern metalcore pop-blend thing

But thx

Weird music is cool music

Usually

Imo

[fathom jewel]

bro listened to everythiing is quiet now by knocked loose once

[versed remnant]

some melodeath mix testing

My drum bus is clipping pretty bad i feel like

[versed remnant]

guitar solo added

I think i shoudl turn up the drums

At least the kick and snare

[halcyon holly]

kick is far too loud

and clicky

Is this drums of destruction?

[versed remnant]

Dude how did you know that

Yeah

[halcyon holly]

magic

nah it's a very easily recognisable drumkit

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turned down the high end on the kick a bunch

[halcyon holly]

You just gotta work on balance, nothing much else to say here. rhythms are low in the mix, leads are high in the mix, snare is too quiet, cymbals are too high in the mix

Rhythms are still getting buried behind leads, kicks and cymbals here

Bring it right back to the fundamentals. Contrast between your song and another person's

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should i boost the mids some more bc i have a like 2db cut on the rythym bus in the mids

brought the cymbals and leads down, rythym up, and turned up the snare

Okay the lead needs to be just a tad louder i think

[hollow tulip]

unfashionably late but touhou mentioned!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[potent depot]

Oh shit the rhythm is pretty similar. Whoops. I didn't even think about that lol

[hollow tulip]

some parts are giving Chimata Tenkyuu's theme. gotta love that ZUNpet 👍 👍

it's looking promising, I don't think I have any qualms for the mixing of the drums, guitars, and bass
but yeah the delay piano part near the end does need some adjustments considering it somewhat overpowers the rest of the instruments

[hollow tulip]

IMO the rhythm guitar and bass' volumes should also be a tad bit higher as to not let it get too buried by the lead guitar and drums

otherwise, nice

recovered from the writer's block here's hoping it doesn't relapse
short wip of fusing metal and artcore (the kind you usually hear in rhythm games)

[sullen vector]

HELL YEAHHHH

[hollow tulip]

https://tenor.com/view/kaguya-boom-explotion-touhou-project-kaguya-boom-gif-27657364

[sullen vector]

zunpet abuse 🤤

piano part is honestly selling the track, but i havent gotten around to fixing it in all this time so thank you for the reminder, fashionably late ftw 🙏

[hollow tulip]

better late than never, np btw

[sullen vector]

ive actually made a ton of stuff using the touhou soundfont but a lot of the time the actual composition doesnt really take inspo from the game so it ends up sounding wack

(im kind of a touhou larper so please forgive me)

[hollow tulip]

if you're ankle deep in the touhou rabbit hole then you shall surely sink deeper

that's what happened to me

[sullen vector]

LOL, itll definitely happen eventually i was introduced by a friend who has most certainly gone off the deep end 😭

[sullen vector]

also this is insanely sick work holy crap

[hollow tulip]

mood
i used to make touhou remixes in the past now my recent projects have kinda moved away from being touhou influenced. though i might return one day

[hollow tulip]

thanku :D

[hollow tulip]

i think you'll see a lot of that shit if you search my name and put "has: sound" in the discord search bar

i'm probably gonna make a remake of this idk

[lost dew]

https://open.spotify.com/album/0Q4aJfQ44o720WiznOIg7c?si=MehZspIcRcGahKsKOGO7CQ

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i messed with the levels a bit more