#Feedback Requests

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vale vapor
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the only things not saved is stuff like drum library, guitar tones, bass tones, individual channel processing etc

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cause i switch those out alot per song

tribal orbit
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Oh I usually find a tone that works best and that’s the one I use for the whole album for cohesion

vale vapor
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oh for albums yeah

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but i dont work on albums unless its for my band

tribal orbit
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Fair

vale vapor
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for my band i have chains for each channel and group saved

tribal orbit
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I really ought to expand on ideas that my band never used

vale vapor
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"<ALBUM TITLE> VOX CHAIN"

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or whatever

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guitar tone, cab, mastering chain

tribal orbit
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Like this one

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Super lazy

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But we never used it so I might do it solo

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That’s from last February

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Maybe I’ll work on it this week

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Re-record it and write lyrics

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And if they still don’t like it, release it solo

storm furnace
storm furnace
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The kick might be too far forward

versed remnant
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A little more work has been done to this @vale vapor @tribal orbit

wraith hare
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is that a midi guitar

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gotta find my old stuff

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i remember sending a bunch of my tracks to other discord server long ago

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god i'm cringing from my old messages from 2022

haughty kayak
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I will until one of the mods says otherwise

formal hedge
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Everybody starts somewhere NotLikeThis

formal hedge
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You should cut highs on the kick

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Not entirely but a lil notch down

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Remove the paper sound

versed remnant
dapper wraith
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https://www.thomann.nl/marshall_mg50gfx.htm
thinking of gettin a marshal mg50gfx. any opinions/tips?

is this a good amp? my price max is 300 euro

vale vapor
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What do you want it for

dapper wraith
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to play guitar, i currently have a fender frontman 20g. amazing distortion for a fender amp. but i want something better, like this has a built in reverb, delay, more channels and an added channel footswitch. all things the other didnt have.

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i'd like to play alround, all kinds of genres

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but mainly metal and rock

dapper wraith
vale vapor
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Well if you're just wanting to practice, go for it

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If you're trying to play live at shows, or record, id go with something else

dapper wraith
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yeah just practice :P

dapper wraith
haughty kayak
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I got a smaller Marshall for same purpose, doesnt take any space at all too

dapper wraith
haughty kayak
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It works for me just as perfect for practice

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15W

wraith hare
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i have 30w joyo (dc-30) and i really like it

balmy igloo
storm furnace
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3 has an ambient drone really far back in the mix

normal hemlock
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not entirely sold on the drone, personally

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with a riff like that i expect pure energy and brutality, as least for as long as that riff is played

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is the drone there for the first couple bars?

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it sounds like it is but i could be tripping

storm furnace
normal hemlock
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right

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okay

storm furnace
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its a constant F# drone

normal hemlock
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way i see it, at least in the intro, let the riff ride and once it slows down that's when it comes in

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the drone, that is

storm furnace
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maybe have it in the space where its more open like the part 2:04

normal hemlock
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exactly

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the ambience hits hardest in open passages

daring juniper
daring juniper
normal hemlock
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also your guitar tone is immaculate

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just wanted to say that

daring juniper
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ambience is nice in moderation

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yea the tone is crispy and tasty

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I love it

normal hemlock
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when i think of utilizing ambience in a song that's meant to go hard, i always think of turning hate into rage by boundaries

storm furnace
daring juniper
normal hemlock
daring juniper
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the ending is kinda creepy with it

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or Cellar Door

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the ambience in that

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picks up at the end

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which makes it creepier

storm furnace
normal hemlock
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you have this breakdown right, and during it the ambience fades in, it's more open, but then it immediately cuts out once the energy picks back up and it's more about being brutal again

storm furnace
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its quad tracked with a doubler turned on so its basically 8 tracks

daring juniper
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dope

normal hemlock
normal hemlock
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usually it's like, 16 bars before a sudden breakdown but here it's only 10

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so it completely caught me off guard

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im loving this production btw

storm furnace
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2 of the instances panned left and right are tweaked zack householder (the 3rd guitarist of whitechapel) presets and the other and the other 2 are a different preset from him but also tweaked slightly

normal hemlock
storm furnace
normal hemlock
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hey whatever you wanna go for

storm furnace
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and default preset for odeholm drums

normal hemlock
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unfortunately im not as in tune with production stuffs so i dont really know the difference

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i just know that it sounds good

storm furnace
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bass tone hasnt changed at all which is just darkglass ultra

cerulean storm
floral spear
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Otherwise I feel like the effect it could have is lost and it just becomes noise

storm furnace
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im kinda using it to cover up some interference caused by me being to close to the electronics on my desk

scarlet brook
wraith hare
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i remember making a track that was ~20 minutes long

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actually i still have it

balmy forum
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Does anyone have stems I can mix?

burnt musk
tender oak
daring juniper
prisma forum
wraith hare
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is that ezdrummer "metal!"

runic adder
fathom jewel
wraith hare
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no i think it's the "metal!"

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because of the snare and kick

versed remnant
remote nacelle
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lol

normal hemlock
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just seems like nu metalcore

normal hemlock
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yes i know what thrown is

vale vapor
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LOL

blissful cliff
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not wrong lmao

versed remnant
fathom jewel
vale vapor
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is this serious 😭

vale vapor
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and profile photo on spotify

fathom jewel
vale vapor
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😭😭😭

tender oak
hollow sorrel
storm furnace
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new song. gonna humanize drums later but i might be done besides for some cool reversed audio stuff like the stuff in the way of all flesh i want to do. this one, like most of my stuff is pretty gojira inspired

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the intro is very prisoner 666 ish

tepid adder
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what kinda vocals you thinking?

storm furnace
tepid adder
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ohh ok

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listening to it I heard randy blythe style work very well lol

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i could see those too though tbh

remote nacelle
storm furnace
# tepid adder ohh ok

i got a big question. rn i dont have a vocalist. i think the song stands on its own without vocals as of rn. i have a more deathcore focused demo already out, and i have a concept album planned with the songs in it once i get a vocalist. they sound pretty different so they wouldnt really fit together in the same album. should i release the more groove focused 6 string drop C songs in their own EP first and then revisit the songs from the demo and add vocals to them and make a few more in the demo style and release that as a full album

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so far the drop C stuff is sounding kinda like gojira mixed with job for a cowboy doom EP

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the deathcore focused stuff sounds more like fit for an autopsy mixed with whitechapel

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theyre close enough to be under the same solo project/band but not enought to be on the same album i think

autumn ravine
tepid adder
tepid adder
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last night I was thinking about my band that consists of me and only me as of right now but I had a thought which was

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wait a minute what if I randomly made a deathcore album I totally could

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buttt

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My music I like to write is more like... idk how to explain it but like j-rock inspired melodic metalcore-lite with in flames, a7x, and galneryus sounding leads

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I like doing vocals a lot and playing dumb ass breakdowns however it wouldn't fit with my music lmao

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so anyways I was considering doing a deathcore album or ep just for fun

vale vapor
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bad for you

autumn ravine
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im better at lows that i am inhales

vale vapor
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everything you can do an inhale you can do with an exhale

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inhale is not a valid scream technique

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if you wanna do it once or twice in studio for a short moment, go ahead

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do not try to use it as a main technique

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your vocal chords arent meant to phonate backwards

autumn ravine
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how does that one donny from esophogus do it then

vale vapor
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idk what that is

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but i guarantee you he's gonna hurt his voice if he hasnt already

normal hemlock
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yeah it'll catch up

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same with the vocalist from the browning

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he says it's fine but it's 100% going to catch up to him lol

vale vapor
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yep

autumn ravine
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i wanna try do the mcereey clicks

normal hemlock
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plus, with inhales, you get significantly less dynamic range

vale vapor
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it doesnt even sound good, it sounds really hollow lol

vale vapor
tepid adder
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Idek how to inhale lmao

normal hemlock
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exactly

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was gonna say that

vale vapor
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it just sounds bad all around

normal hemlock
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inhale vocals are fun for like

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idk

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doing a robot voice

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lol

tepid adder
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I just like yelling at people

vale vapor
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yeah lol

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LOL

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good

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keep exhaling

normal hemlock
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it SOMETIMES has actual impact by creating gross sounds

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only problem is you'll never be able to hear them live LOL

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usually because inhales are very quiet

tepid adder
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Lmao

normal hemlock
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if you project with inhales that's where the real problems start

vale vapor
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Yep

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Literally will shred you up

normal hemlock
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idek how people do it lol

tepid adder
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Idek if I scream right but it sounds decent and it doesn't hurt so i guess that's good?

vale vapor
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That's a good starting point yeah

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@inland zinc

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Obligatory ubrscreamer ping

inland zinc
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Hello

tepid adder
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Yayy

inland zinc
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But it's pretty easy to accidentally do small stuff that will hurt you eventually, without knowing

vale vapor
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And that you aren't losing your voice

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Yeah

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If you can scream for a while and you don't lose your singing or speaking voice, that's the right direction

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Even without pain

tepid adder
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I do something get like slightly uncomfortable if I do like 10 songs but like

normal hemlock
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what's so weird for me

tepid adder
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If I just take a sip of water then bam

inland zinc
tepid adder
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I'm fine

normal hemlock
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my vox dont hurt me, but sometimes they do despite not changing techinque

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not in like

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a sharp pain kind of way

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i know the proper techniques, im just unsure what the problem is

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maybe hydration? because i know that plays a big part

tepid adder
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Funnoly enough the way I learned was by doing brees

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I found out I could bree like a year ago

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While joking around

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And then I just sorta switched the bree to an ahhh sound

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And yeah I just went from there lol

normal hemlock
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my brees used to sound like shit lol

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they're far better now

formal hedge
vale vapor
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wait did you count in your drummer vocally LOL

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There's a few things going on here, if youre asking if these can be used as the main drums in a song, def not

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it sounds like you only recorded it with one mic?

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the china sounds good tho i like the china

formal hedge
vale vapor
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Go with midi drums

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you aren't gonna be able to record your kit

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that requires a big budget

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At least for metal and rock

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every drum individually needs to be mic'd

formal hedge
vale vapor
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no 😭

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you need to multi mic your kit

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there's no way around it

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multi mic your kit or use midi drums

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you can get midi drums sounding perfectly fine

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that is 100% the way to go when you have no budget or mics

formal hedge
vale vapor
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you might be screwed then lol

formal hedge
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Not even kidding

vale vapor
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yeah youre screwed 😭

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you can't single mic drums

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unless you're writing indie music

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or music that doesn't require separate drum channels

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like black metal or smth

vale vapor
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There is no way to multi mic drums without spending some money on a good set of mics, and LOTS of re-recording and knowing what you're doing

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new drum heads, good sounding shells, etc

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if he's that inflexible and unwilling to use midi until you guys have a budget, you may be better off without him anyway

formal hedge
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Should I lie to him and say that the midi drums are his recording? I don't wanna do that but I may have to

formal hedge
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Worth noting the "one mic" here is an andriod phone

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It sounds slightly off and I'm not sure why

balmy forum
balmy forum
balmy forum
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Direct input

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You know? When you plug your guitar directly into your interface

formal hedge
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Well kind of

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The amp I use, works like a DI

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Just grabs guitar signal

balmy forum
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So are you using a plug in for distortion

formal hedge
balmy forum
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Oh

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Cool, maybe tweak the tone a little

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Or go off a preset

formal hedge
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Preset

runic adder
formal hedge
runic adder
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for one the differing bpms of the intro sample into the song gives it weirdness

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kick could come up a little and could do with some more top end

balmy forum
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Might be their style tho

runic adder
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the guitar sounds fine imo, could use a little scoop

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it's muddy, just needs some clarity is all

runic adder
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yeah

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sounds like some mud in the mid/lowmid area, and lacking a little bite up top

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I'd try a scoop at around 400-500hz and a little boost at 2k-3k

balmy forum
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Fair

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I can almost hear distortion in the overheads

runic adder
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isnt that a synth layer?

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couldve sworn its a synth

balmy forum
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I don’t think so

autumn ravine
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im thinking of doing a shaddow song but idk whast one

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im thing from ruin we rise

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ik the lyrics ik the song layout

balmy forum
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There is a synth layer but I think it’s does have some distortion

autumn ravine
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but idk the rap bit

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its not like edited tho theres no layers no nothing

remote nacelle
formal hedge
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After I saved it

remote nacelle
balmy forum
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Oh god I understand it now @vale vapor thank you haha

formal hedge
balmy forum
runic adder
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well you beat me to it

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lol

remote nacelle
formal hedge
balmy forum
balmy forum
remote nacelle
balmy forum
runic adder
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but yeah should be fine

remote nacelle
formal hedge
remote nacelle
formal hedge
remote nacelle
balmy forum
remote nacelle
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sick

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thanks

runic adder
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pluh

remote nacelle
formal hedge
remote nacelle
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lol

vale vapor
vale vapor
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you need to be double tracking your guitar dude

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that and multirouting the kit

balmy forum
balmy forum
vale vapor
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thats pretty sick ngl

balmy forum
remote nacelle
balmy forum
remote nacelle
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actually sounds sick tho i love that funk groove in the verse and pre breakdown

balmy forum
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It’s very circle with me inspired

remote nacelle
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clealy haha

balmy forum
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HOW DO I LOOK YELLOW MAN

remote nacelle
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HOW DO I LOOK YELOW MAN

balmy forum
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HAHAHA

remote nacelle
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LOL

sullen vector
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hello people, just wondering if yall think this mix sounds ok, and if anybody has any thoughts on anything else about these two things im workin on, any advice is appreciated fr 🙏

balmy forum
balmy forum
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turning the room down

tribal orbit
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trying something with this mix. Guitars are just placeholders (waiting on my new guitarist)

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Since we're going with a more nu metal style, it felt appropriate to do some weird mid focused screams

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def gonna re-record teh screams at some point to fix the timing

versed remnant
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The second one is the one i was talking about in dms, the orher is another song i wanna revisit @tribal orbit

tribal orbit
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very of mice and men

vale vapor
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The mix is good, snare could use some more processing?

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the drums in general sound kinda raw

sullen vector
vale vapor
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oh 😭

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i much prefer it at regular speed

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it sounds more human

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and it sets a more realistic standard

sullen vector
sullen vector
vale vapor
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gotcha

balmy forum
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@vale vapor how is this mix? i glued the guitar and drums together for the first time and i dont know if it works well

vale vapor
balmy forum
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Yeah it’s the lead

vale vapor
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i would change it, its too close

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its like note for note lol

vale vapor
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guitars are kinda dark

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drums im assuming are not multirouted still

balmy forum
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Yeah they are

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I’m just not good at mixing lol

vale vapor
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oh lol

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if you want, before next saturday you can send me the stems, and when we call i can go over exactly how i'd mix it and why

balmy forum
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Oh sick that sounds good

balmy forum
balmy forum
vale vapor
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I tend to stay away from clipping on drums

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especially drum bus

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it destroys the transients

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it can work sometimes for a snare but you need to compensate by giving it more transient after the clip

balmy forum
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Oh ok

vale vapor
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(by clipping in this instance i mean a distortion/hard clip/soft clip plugin like decap)

balmy forum
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I’ll fix that now

vale vapor
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whats that

balmy forum
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rbass?

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a popular audio plugin by Waves that enhances bass by generating subtle, higher-frequency harmonics, creating the perception of deeper, richer low-end even on small speakers that can't reproduce deep bass frequencies physically, making tracks fuller and clearer

vale vapor
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lol the ai overview

balmy forum
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lol

vale vapor
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the ai overview does not understand this plugin

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LOL

balmy forum
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LOL

vale vapor
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idrk the plugin well enough to say

balmy forum
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i think its just an eq pretty much

vale vapor
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that is not what an eq does

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looks like a saturator to me

balmy forum
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ok i just checked, my kick was clipping

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my OH are fine

balmy forum
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also i had it at the wrong sample rate before do that's probably a reason it sounds like crap

balmy forum
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@vale vapor made some tweaks, here is what i did

tender oak
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Rbass is a bass centric compressor / saturator from waves. It's fucking goated imho. I've used it in a few mixes of mine and it simply makes bass present and buttery.

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You can chose a frequency and it does some magic with mix compression / saturation / eq at that frequency. I think it might use upward compression too which I know is present in rvox. There's deeper breakdowns online.

vale vapor
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I get a similar effect by putting an LA2A after my bass amp

tender oak
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Oh yeah for sure. The la2a is a peak compressor for mostly anything you're looking for silk on

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I call it Mr. Smooth. Just makes shit sound nice.

vale vapor
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Exactly

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no more lumpy bass performances

vale vapor
runic adder
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helps get rid of the lumpy performance lol

vale vapor
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i never actually use a sub layered with my bass

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i think it kinda sounds weird, especially if the bass wavers in tune you can get some weird beating fx

runic adder
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i don't do that either

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i just split the bass "grit" and "sub" and on the sub channel pump it into pro-l and crank it up by like 19 db lmfao

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gets rid of the inconsistencies better than a standard compressor imo

vale vapor
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oh lol

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i just use parallax 9 times out of 10

balmy forum
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its really good

runic adder
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Fun fact, apparently, ndsp darkglass will hi-pass the bass until 80?

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When I don’t use it all of the sub information is much more defined, though that might just be from removing the extra low end boot

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Sometimes if I pop darkglass into parallax on the grit channel it makes the grit sound more slippery in a cool way

balmy igloo
runic adder
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really don't hear freddy fazbear but this is cool

balmy igloo
mighty terrace
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I know the playing needs a tidy up. This is like Invent Animate from wish but in drop A#

mighty terrace
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I was choosing tunings of like what do I choozd

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It was Drop A or A# I still got stock strings on this so it doesn’t hold lower than G# well

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(Maybe I’m just an idiot idk)

tepid adder
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@tough creek @hollow tulip @mossy ore here's one of my fully finished songs from Ashes of Sakura called Spiral Complex (it's about silly straws btw)

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When I say finished I mean like

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I've written all of the parts

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Not produced obviously LMAO

tough creek
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i wish my shit sounded that good, but alas im currently stuck with an orange amp

tepid adder
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LOL thank you

hollow tulip
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So far I like it, stoked to hear the fully produced thing

hollow tulip
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Kinda reminds me of Ascendancy/In Waves era Trivium with a mix of J-rock chords

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And yeah I like the clean guitars very much

tepid adder
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Oh interesting, where did the Trivium vibes come through? I wasn't directly inspired by Trivium which is why I'm asking lol

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I love trivium btw

hollow tulip
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i had this cool idea for a riff so i made a short fl studio project to immortalize it before i forget (it's played by virtual instruments bc i can't play)
very abrb inspired if you couldn't tell by the filename and riff

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also tried to replicate the slight dirty edge of 2000s metalcore/deathcore mixing

tough creek
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I might be shit at guitar but that technique is one of my favs whenever i play any song

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Especially in some old school rock like Led Zeppelin

hollow tulip
tepid adder
wicked berry
tribal orbit
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I fear... I may have cooked (my first non metal piece in a hot minute lmao)

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it's also like not mxied at all

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just midi instruments slapped onto the notes

balmy igloo
tepid adder
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Wait that's sick as hell

tribal orbit
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lmao tyty. Got challenged to write a MH battle theme for lunagaron. I think it works, but I rarely ever write orchestral stuff

tribal orbit
round saffron
round saffron
eager sphinx
round saffron
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Honestly Cookin

eager sphinx
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:D

round saffron
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KFC ASS TONE

versed remnant
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i need advice on the current state of my mix por favor

versed remnant
halcyon holly
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Perfect drums by naughtyseal are the exact drums used on that album btw

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just fyi

versed remnant
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one second

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this is

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good information

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to have

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This is pre post production and vocals

kind trail
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Did a little throwback cover from one of the best metal albums of 2016 (arguably of the modern era)

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Gotta do the misc production work, some guitar editing, and throw on vocals

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but yeah

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@runic adder wdyt?

kind trail
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I'll probably do 91367 too

runic adder
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some parts i think the guitars might be a bit loud? but i think its solid otherwise

versed remnant
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Hey i was listening to that

balmy forum
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the guitars are way to loud

versed remnant
vale vapor
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With different compressors

balmy igloo
runic adder
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Also why’s only half the vocals there 😭

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Do you record highs and lows separately?

versed remnant
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i was trying to track them and i killed my throat a little bit

runic adder
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Real

versed remnant
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so i need to learn how to do them properly first

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i'm only good at lows </3

runic adder
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You’ll get it in time

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I’m not much of a vocal coach I couldn’t help ya there but it’ll happen, trust

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Now I want to another infant annihilator cover…

versed remnant
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Do cuntcrusher twin

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Wait no flayed and consumed

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Thats my favorite on that album u should cover that

runic adder
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I was lowk thinking decapitation fornication or soil the stillborn

finite coral
runic adder
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There’s no instrumental for Ov Sacrament and Sincest so that’s off the table, my favorite one unfortunately

runic adder
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Idk smthing about it reminded me of like blue stahli or celldweller

finite coral
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guitar feels lacking idk what to do with it ive changed the amp like 20 times

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the ir is in triple digits

runic adder
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Guitar sounds fine lowk

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You could scoop it a little more maybe?

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I think it’s fine tho

reef dawn
runic adder
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Guitars could come down, they’re louder than the drums

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Snare needs more compression

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Riffs and song are cool though

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At that breakdown at 1:40 the kick sounds a little off sync with the guitar trem part, try putting the kicks in triplets instead of straight?

balmy igloo
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Return tracks for Delay and Reverb. Little bit of Autotune as well

runic adder
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Hm, interesting

vale vapor
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Always send your delays and verbs to a send

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Verb bus and a delay bus

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Every time

runic adder
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Yeah idk why I put the limiter at the start, putting it at the end seems a lot more reasonable lol

runic adder
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So mostly similar approaches

balmy igloo
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I guess yeah. Don't know much about deathcore but we're all on the same journey.

vale vapor
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I limit sometimes

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sometimes i just put a compressor on the entire vocal bus

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Acting as a limiter

runic adder
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Might start recording them on separate tracks

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Since I typically go main, sub, and dub

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But usually a comp isn’t enough alone to balance it

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Unless I’m doing it wrong

vale vapor
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You should def be using multiple compressors

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I work with some very versatile vocalists who do all types of screams on one track

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And usually multiple compressors always balances it perfectly

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Reacomp on aggressive vocal preset with auto makeup gain turned on and limit output checked

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JST gain reduction for slamming it and a little saturation

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Then EQ

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Then usually a 1176 or LA2A (3 to 6db gr)

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Then de ess

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Then another compressor on the entire vocal bus to smooth all the tracks together

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Sometimes a brickwall limiter

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Just realimit on default settings

runic adder
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I see

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I typically put the vocals straight into a 76 and then two saturators

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Well typically into one but the second one I did recently and I like the sound

vale vapor
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Honestly i dont saturate my vocals much

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Most saturation i do is just the natural saturation that JST Gr adds

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If i want a saturated vocal it won't be a main take and I'll literally just send it through a guitar amp

versed remnant
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can make you one

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and we can do it together

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i can do instrumentals for you

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however

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i'd need a few weeks to learn the parts

runic adder
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i mean yeah if you want to im down

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though programming in all the pinch harmonics and slide noises is gonna be a bitch, im warning ya

versed remnant
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Is fair

versed remnant
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Like actually learn the oarts

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I played my cover of three bastards

runic adder
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i mean hey if you can pull off the sweeps then go for it

versed remnant
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Granted not in one take at all

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I was definitely recording bar by bar

runic adder
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sounded like midi guitar lowk, mb

versed remnant
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Bc i can NOT cleanly transition

versed remnant
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I’m not THAT good at my instrument

runic adder
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fair

versed remnant
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Just good enough to play it in parts

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LMAO

runic adder
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i mean most of Ov Sacrament is lowk not difficult

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the riffs arent bad, it's just those crazy sweeps that are the killer

versed remnant
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Yeahh

wicked berry
tender oak
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We sharing screaming vocal chains? Feeling cute, might mix later?
I do EQ > DeEss (cleaning up signal at beginning) > JST Gain Reduction Deluxe > Rvox > Magma Stress Box (3 combo compression with their own little touches on the sound, all gain staged as to not overblow the sound) > Second EQ to SLIGHTLY boost some high end lost in compression for clarity > Magma Lil Tube for light tube saturation > Tape Saturation > L2 limiter. I also have an 1176 on a bus parallel compressing everything together. Shit sounds nice. I use a similar chain for cleans but swap out the magma for an LA2A. I like the LA2A smoothness on cleans.

wicked berry
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my normal one is kinda similar to that

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but i was lazy today and used a mantra preset i made

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it holds up pretty well

vale vapor
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Also send main vox to verb and delay bus

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Also, pretty much every time i EQ a vocal, I'm using a dynamic EQ

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The voice is so incredibly dynamic, a static EQ doesn't always help when trying to tame it

tender oak
vale vapor
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TDR nova all the way

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some here swear by ZL EQ but it doesn't fit my workflow

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Tdr is soooo smooth

tender oak
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I will absolutely check that out

runic adder
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since we sharing specifics, on my last mix I went:
gate (headphones dont have the best Isolation and you can hear the click in some takes 😔
slam tf out of it with a 76
brickwall limitar (no clue why I put it up front lowk)
decapitator for saturation and some high/low cuts
devil-loc for more saturation
EQ
then verb and delay

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absolutely nuked any kind of dynamic range on these vocals

vale vapor
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LOL

tender oak
balmy forum
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Should you put limiters on vocals??

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I thought it was just a mastering thing

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I’m stupid I know lol

tender oak
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Nawh, not stupid at all. There's cases where it can be beneficial. I find that having a limiter/maximizer on my vocals at the end of the chain specifically helps them sit more up front and clear in the mix. Not everyone does. I use the waves L2 maximizer. Basically just have it at the end lightly touching the vocals by a few db. The idea is to make them slightly louder without crushing the tone and clarity you got with your processing chain so they sit more clear without you actually having to turn them up in the mix themselves. It's like a balanced boost if done right. Also very useful at the end of your mastering chain. Again just hugging the song by a few db to get that pump and loudness without crushing or distorting anything. Limiters can be used effectively all over a mix honestly.

balmy forum
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Oh cool

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Thanks I had no idea

naive owl
balmy forum
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put up some acoustic paneling recently and put a lamp on my pc, very nice

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It looks fancy but it’s kinda just an interface, monitors and an old tv

finite coral
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kick

finite coral
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sounds neat

cerulean storm
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Something new I started working on

burnt musk
finite coral
cerulean storm
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I'm always open to what anyone has to say🙂

versed remnant
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@tribal orbit

balmy igloo
balmy igloo
fringe geode
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I messed with the mix a little bit.

lost dew
balmy forum
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Sounds really good

fringe geode
# balmy forum You have been mixing this song for so long!

Lol. I wouldn't say that. I like coming back to projects when I learn new things as a way to try out what I've learned.

And thats the point of the ones marked Break the Glass. They're meant to be one offs I can do just to test out a quick riff for songwriting purposes, or to test new mixing skills I've learned that I can eventually come back to when I've learned more. Sometimes both.

balmy forum
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Ahhhhh good idea

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Also I figured out how to separate route my drums, thanks for the help with that btw

fringe geode
balmy forum
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This is what I ended up with

fringe geode
fringe geode
balmy forum
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Ty

fringe geode
fringe geode
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This is the one that became its own song.

balmy forum
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Oo I like so far

fringe geode
# balmy forum Oo I like so far

I'm still not entirely happy with it but at some point you just kinda have to move on and work on new songs that you'll learn more from.

tender oak
fringe geode
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It eventually gave me the idea in my Endless Possibilities cover to combine Parallax's low end with the mids and highs of Darkglass.

summer marsh
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Wondering if this sounds very ultrakill esc, and maybe some adjustments. (im trying to strictly use soundfonts) And Yes the pitching needs to be fixed

vale vapor
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kick is a little oversaturated for my taste but the mix is fire

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snare sounds awesome

fringe geode
# vale vapor this is fire

Thanks! Most of the tweaks were just adjusting levels. I did almost no changes to the processing minus tweaking da bass just a wee bit but that's it

hollow sorrel
fringe geode
runic adder
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Sounds sick

balmy forum
hollow sorrel
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I did the guitar and bass. Also wrote a couple lines of lyrics

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@balmy forum also did some art for the 87angst band

balmy forum
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what do you think of this?

hollow sorrel
hollow sorrel
hollow sorrel
# balmy forum

Ok wow this is awesome. Not usually a fan of happier sounding riffs but everything on this is super tight. The mix is good too 🙂

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Groovy drums too

balmy forum
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Thanks!

hollow sorrel
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You are very welcome! 🙂

lost dew
kind blaze
hollow sorrel
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@balmy forum

balmy forum
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ill listen in a sec

balmy forum
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snare could use a bit more mid

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and drums could come up a bit

hollow sorrel
balmy forum
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oh ok

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what drums do you use

hollow sorrel
kind trail
hollow sorrel
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This is awesome

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What tuning?

balmy forum
kind trail
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Yeah I know, it's a fucking weird tuning

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It's basically Drop D1 mixed with a Gmin7b9 chord as the tuning

hollow sorrel
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I love weird tunings

kind trail
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The Gmin7b9 is great for Jazz stuff

hollow sorrel
kind trail
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Where as the stupidly low Drop D is great for riffing and djent

hollow sorrel
kind trail
kind trail
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Add a low A below the D, and a high D (or Eb) above the Ab

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All the range I'd ever need

kind trail
hollow sorrel
kind trail
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I would, personally, lower the bass a bit and let the guitars shine more, but also I'm pretty sure that might just be the sound of the genre too

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So maybe nott

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But consider using a multiband compressor on the bass so the low end rumble doesn't flub all over the fucking place

hollow sorrel
kind trail
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I see

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well I mean, in that case do whatever

hollow sorrel
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I do think it's a little floppier on The Ground Floor though so I will bring it up with him

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Gundesvermin has less flub

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However Gundesvermin was higher

kind trail
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Cool cool

hollow sorrel
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B-1 instead of G#-1

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It also partially has to do with me using a 200 gauge on a 34" bass since I don't have anything longer

kind trail
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Oh my goodness it just occurred to me, you're not tuning to normal G#, it's the low 5-string bass G#

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On the Guitar

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I thought it was weird for a second

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Ok yeah

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That explains alot

hollow sorrel
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G#0

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Bass full octave down. No pitch shifting on my end

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My buddy shifted his 8 down from F# to that low G# for his parts

kind trail
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Just the way God intended 🙌

hollow sorrel
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I'm not really a fan of same octave bass for my own music so I always go octave down when I can

kind trail
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Same

hollow sorrel
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I thought B-1 was my limit until he wanted me down in G# 🤣

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Overtones are wild things

kind trail
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I use Umansky Bass so I'm stuck with a low C0 as my limit

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Unless I do pitch shift shenanigans

hollow sorrel
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I just play my own instruments. I used the same bass setup for Gundesvermin and The Ground Floor but the guitars were different on my end

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These two for both

kind trail
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I'm gonna be honest, you should consider getting a 37" for the bass

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It would get you so much more clarity

hollow sorrel
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For Gundesvermin, I used a Digitech Whammy Ricochet on the +2 octaves momentarily, then a Peper's Dirty Tree, and that went into my Line 6 POD 2.0, Rectified setting, 0 bass, maxed mids, treble not far behind, maxed presence, some compression going on the POD, and one of the stock 4x12s

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For The Ground Floor I used actual miced amps. No pedals, 1988 Ampeg SS-140C, maxed gain, 0 bass, mids almost maxed, treble maxed. Combo EVM 12L miced with a Shure SM57 and then I also had it going into my 1973 Sound City 6x10 which i miced with a cheap kick drum mic. Those when into my 1979 Sunn Alpha Six mixer and then my interface and phone

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Bass for both was my Line 6 Bass POD XT, Sabotage preset, bass boosted, low mids scooped a bit, high mids and treble maxed. Some compression running. I think I used the Stadium cab model (based on a Sunn SPL8028 1x12/1x18) and I had clean DI blended in

hollow sorrel
kind trail
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Damn

hollow sorrel
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My nicest bass is a Warwick Thumb NT5 I paid just over $2,500 for

kind trail
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I'm gonna be honest

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I didn't even know they made basses that long 😂

hollow sorrel
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Lignum does. Kalium does the 40" Quake bass

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I know another company that goes longer but I forgot their name

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They're Australian

granite mist
runic adder
kind trail
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Lmao still haven't gotten strings have you?

runic adder
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Gotta send them another email

hollow sorrel
runic adder
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Fuckers took my money and ran

kind trail
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How long has it been? 3 months?

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Lmao

runic adder
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One

hollow sorrel
kind trail
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Ah

runic adder
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It’s one guy

hollow sorrel
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There used to be two but the other guy left

runic adder
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That’s hilarious

hollow sorrel
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Yeah. Skip Fantry. Just him

kind trail
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Also doesn't he make the string after the order is placed

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So it's not like he stores and ships a stock

runic adder
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Unfortunately there’s nowhere else I can get my heavy gauge bass strings so I just have to suck it ig

hollow sorrel
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He's not a bad dude. He's fucking working his ass off. One man company

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😭

hollow sorrel
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That's what I use

runic adder
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Yeah I’m not paying for international shipping 😭

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God forbid a man wants to play drop G on a standard scale bass

hollow sorrel
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It was only $55 after shipping for mine but that was pre-tariffs

hollow sorrel
kind trail
hollow sorrel
runic adder
hollow sorrel
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Buy them online. Won't find them in most stores

runic adder
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Where online? Their site redirects to other shops

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Oh hey a use for stringsandbeyond for the first time in years

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No 5th string lol

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Gonna have to buy one separately ig

hollow sorrel
fathom jewel
runic adder
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130 on a 35” doesn’t sound that good for G so I gotta suffer w kalium ig

hollow sorrel
runic adder
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Interesting

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Might have to play around with that then

granite mist
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that was probably the last thing i did lol

meager sandal
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Just finished recording this track, any feedback or recommendations?

hollow sorrel
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@runic adder this is how F# sounds on the Warwick. These were a couple isolated raw bass tracks from my band, no post processing

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All fingerstyle

hollow sorrel
runic adder
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is it like if I hit the string too hard itll fly out of tune

hollow sorrel
runic adder
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ah yeah

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I play hard so that's gonna be quite annoying

vale vapor
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Yeah give me thick strings and hard af pick attack

hollow sorrel
# runic adder ah yeah

Downward force makes them stay in tune more than like striking across them with something like a pick. I just tap straight into them partially with my skin and partially with my fingernails

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All fingerstyle

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That's probably the only reason it stays in tune tbh 🤣

runic adder
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fair lol

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yeah atp i need thick strings, even on my guitars I pick hard af

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so on bass there is no way ts is staying in tune 😭

vale vapor
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Hard pick attack works best in a mix

hollow sorrel
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I usually go as light as possible to keep things snappy sounding. That's just me. All personal preference

vale vapor
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Softer stuff can work but hard attack is just easier to work with

hollow sorrel
# hollow sorrel

I mean considering these were fingerstyle I still hit pretty hard. I don't like using a pick for bass. Shattered was probably the one I hit the hardest

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Warwicks also have crazy tight B strings for being 34" for some reason

balmy forum
hollow sorrel
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I'm shocked I can stay in tune with how hard I use my picking hand 😭

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I've adopted the Al Cisneros 3 finger strike for some droning notes

hollow sorrel
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I do some Ryan Martinie and Les Claypool shit sprinkled in. Sometimes flamenco style strums. Ghost note chucks. I did tapping on one song. And I do the Mudvayne striked octave thing a ton

balmy forum
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so complex

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i know

hollow sorrel
# hollow sorrel

I try not to wank off on bass too much but these tracks had some stuff peppered in just to keep things interesting.

balmy forum
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are you Australian?

hollow sorrel
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One technique I haven't been able to fit in a song yet is this thing I do where I strike through the strings with two fingers and then come back up with my fingernail essentially doubling the speed I'm playing. Keeps up with trem picking but this band doesn't have much of that at all

balmy forum
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fucking typing is hard

hollow sorrel
balmy forum
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oh cool

balmy forum
hollow sorrel
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I've been playing since I was 12 so almost 9 years. I'm not amazing but I've picked up some stuff along the way 😭

balmy forum
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i started when i was 10 i belive? but im only 13 so its not that long

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english is hard

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also does anyone know what sdc and ldc are

finite coral
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i do want to re record a few guitar takes cuz i dont like them

finite coral
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and cant mix for shit

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im not playing anything crazy advanced but i started 6 months ago

finite coral
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if youre ognna splice atleast do multiple takes instead of copy pasting 💀

tribal orbit
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Trying to think what it reminds me of but it's hype

hollow sorrel
finite coral
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sometimes i splice just to make sure its on tempo sometimes i would be a little late for a chug or just re record

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if my guitar is not in my hands and i notice it being off i will cut it and try to fix it that way but if i have it in my hands ill just re record 😭

hollow sorrel
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Tracked vocals last night. How's my buddy's mix? Did my best Jens Kidman impression

cerulean storm
vale vapor
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the whole mix needs more mids imo

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the mix is very harsh in the 3k range

vale vapor
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everything sounds like it's being pushed into a limiter pretty hard

cerulean storm
vale vapor
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Make sure no tracks are clipping

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Then only limit if you absolutely need to

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I would limit a tiny bit in stages

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Have each limiter just barely shave off the peaks

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Don't smash stuff into one limiter all at once

cerulean storm
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Yeah, that's what I've done too. Should probably tweak the drums a bit more though, thanks for the advice🙂

vale vapor
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Np

waxen grotto
#

been listening to a bunch of silent planet lately, and then i made this track. if possible i would like some feedback on it
the guitars are :vst guitar for the main sound, then like 4 synth layers and 1 layer of real guitar panned left and right
drums are also a vst but with electronic drums under it

hollow tulip
# waxen grotto been listening to a bunch of silent planet lately, and then i made this track. i...

pretty nice, guitars sound great and djenty. pretty mick gordon-ish. the slow down at 1:28 goes hard
i suggest doing some automation on the synths/master bus during transitions (like slowly increasing the wet reverb on the master and slowly narrowing the stereo image during the buildup, then brief total silence before returning everything back to normal when the guitars kick in) so that they don't sound too flat
you should also raise the guitar, bass, and cymbals volume slightly as they sound a bit quiet compared to the kick and snare (imo). otherwise pretty nice 👍

fringe geode
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I used a combo of the Soldano SLO-100 and Plini's Friedman BE100 to get the guitar tone.

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I used two guitars as well. The beginning was using a LTD SN-200 and the heavy part was using a modded 02 Strat with Deathbuckers.

vale vapor
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idk about the ai generated art man

loud blaze
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Something im cooking up for my piano focused solo project

vale vapor
vale vapor
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its a bit repetitive in some spots

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and in a few parts i think it's clipping

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Also not too sure about the slamming the keys part near the end lol

wind crater
vale vapor
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the image is ai

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But no, his song is just him strumming the guitar randomly

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I think he should actually sit down and learn to play before he tries to upload to spotify

balmy forum
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ahhh

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makes sense

balmy forum
inland anchor
inland anchor
tender oak
inland anchor
inland anchor
tender oak
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I'd say sleep on it a bit and then keep working on it, definitely got energy to it.

inland anchor
loud blaze
loud blaze
vale vapor
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ah gotcha

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thall is definitely not my area of expertise so lol

inland anchor
reef dawn
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holy shit

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what the archspire

fathom jewel
fathom jewel
vale vapor
inland anchor
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Some older stuff that we never finished cause I couldn't find the second vocalist to do the male parts lol

inland anchor
cerulean storm
#

Made a new guitar cover of one of my favorite songs ever :3

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Haven't used my 6-string in a long time

vale vapor
#

Bevin Baldhead

inland anchor
tender oak
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Fun fact about Devin, he uses Magma plugins from waves like the channel strip and their compressor. For anyone looking for part of his sound. Magma saturation helps a lot.

vale vapor
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I never really got into devin townsend

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Everything I've heard so far has been kinda eh

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Just very not my thing

tender oak
#

I wouldn't call myself a massive fan, but deadhead, Kingdom, and Spirits Will Collide are solid tracks. Particularly Deadhead live at Royal Albert Hall. The recording on youtube is magic, I can only imagine what being there was like. Devin has a very "wall of sound" approach to writing and producing music and it shines in that specific track in that specific performance so fucking well. And his voice tickles my ears, dude's got serious pipes and his toned yell screams are gnarly.

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I highly (highly) reccomend checking out that performance if you havent already. Shit ima go listen to it now. Half way through he rips the crowd for not being able to clap on time hahaha

vale vapor
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i think i pintpointed why im not the biggest fan

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i can appreciate the sound but musically it's very like

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dad rock?

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it's like oldhead music

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super talented guy

tender oak
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Yeah not for everyone, but I'm in my 30s and have a soft spot for tons of dad rock lmaoo

vale vapor
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haha

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i turn 20 this year so i end up on the gen z side of things

tender oak
#

Plus, that voice. I wish I could tone scream like that

vale vapor
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yeah he's got crazy tone on him

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would he fall under prog?

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the long songs and such

tender oak
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I would say definitely in the prog realm

vale vapor
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ah yeah

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the only prog i really listen to is periphery on occasion

tender oak
#

I also like Strapping Young Lad. Way heavier.

vale vapor
#

best tuning of all time

tender oak
#

drop c will forever be goated

vale vapor
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exactly

normal hemlock
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SYL is fire

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peak

inland anchor
inland anchor