Feedback Requests

[blissful cliff]

I use Reaper lol

[tribal orbit]

damb

JST Max is a great plugin

[blissful cliff]

Woah that actually sounds a lot better XDDD

[tribal orbit]

It needed to be a bit brighter, a bit more saturated, and needed some added width

[blissful cliff]

Gotcha

[tribal orbit]

My chain goes EQ1 -> Saturator -> EQ2 -> Limiter -> Saturator2/Compressor -> JST Max

[blissful cliff]

Nice

I'm really not familiar with mastering stuff at all, I've only recently got halfway decent at mixing

[tribal orbit]

For being halfway decent, you're decent lmao

Def pick up the mastering side of things. Doesn't take too long tbh

Learning plugins take long tho

[blissful cliff]

I'll definitely give it a shot

Do you know any good free plugins?

[tribal orbit]

For mastering?

I do not

[blissful cliff]

Yeah

[tribal orbit]

Ableton has a ton of built in shit

So I usually just use that

Buuut

I use JST Heat and Maximizer for the final touches

[blissful cliff]

Alrighty

[tribal orbit]

Max is 49 bucks rn

[blissful cliff]

I saw that

[tribal orbit]

And they allow for discount codes to stack on deals

[blissful cliff]

I just don't have that kind of spending money rn lol

[blissful cliff]

That's cool

I'll def keep my eye on it though

[tribal orbit]

Def do

Idk much about the tools built in to reaper

[blissful cliff]

I'll do some research for sure

[tribal orbit]

but I'm sure if you search "How to master metal/punk/rock/etc. in reaper" on youtube, you'll find something

[blissful cliff]

I mean that's how I learned mixing XD

Dude EQs and Compressors are so confusing

[tribal orbit]

I just use glue compressors

regular compressors go over my head even now. I understand teh gist of them, but teh glue compressors in Ableton make my brain work more

[blissful cliff]

I've been using a compressor on each of my guitar tracks and on bass, and then a glue compressor on the whole mix

[tribal orbit]

Ah

Yeah, I only use glue

[blissful cliff]

I've found it makes the guitars sound brighter

[tribal orbit]

Never felt that tbh

But also, most of my tones are bright

[blissful cliff]

fair enough

I've been learning a lot about tones too

[tribal orbit]

Less gain = more gain

yknwo

[blissful cliff]

my tone used to sound pretty muddy and awful

[blissful cliff]

yeah that was always so weird to me

especially the lower you tune the less gain the better it generally sounds

[tribal orbit]

so real

[blissful cliff]

Anyways thanks for your help bro!

I appreciate it a lot

[tribal orbit]

Np

Not like I have anything going on today lmao

[blissful cliff]

I found some good tutorial stuff using stock reaper plugins so ima see what I can do with that

[tribal orbit]

awesome

[tribal orbit]

Thoughts?

@blissful cliff if you have a moment

[blissful cliff]

That's super awesome. I really like the riff, it's simple but quintessentially metalcore

[tribal orbit]

Good old 5-7-8

The synth to your liking?

[blissful cliff]

Yeah it sounds pretty good

It will be way better once vocals are added

[kind blaze]

I tested new drums and this is what came out of it

I like the 2nd half

[wicked berry]

it sounds cool

nice drums

[tribal orbit]

Trying to make a rock track instead of metal is hard

[kind blaze]

Thanks☺️

[wicked berry]

yw!

[kind blaze]

Me trying not to blast beat 240bmp in Rihanna song

[tribal orbit]

Lmao

The drums def need to be reworked on mine

[wicked berry]

what did you use for drums?

i like the ride alot

[tribal orbit]

Ugritone

They’re going out of business, so I bought their whole site for liek 80

[kind blaze]

Nice deal

Drums sounds great

[tribal orbit]

Takes a bit to mix in

Saturation, EQ, compression, etc

Buuuut

They’re cool

Just remember to remove the one shots

[kind blaze]

Damn I love how the ride and bass drum sounds together in fast riffs

Gives me some Rev vibe I think

[wicked berry]

Coolll

I love ugritones "kvlt drums" and "trve cabs"

For the names

Awesome

[tribal orbit]

Tbh k think kvlt drums are probably the worst of the sample sets they have

Total/Tight Studio and the Punk & Grind are the best

[wicked berry]

lmao wow

thats actually trve kvlt

having shitty drum samples is trve kvlt

[young shore]

Tell me what you think, I made it for fun, I would have made a full version if my laptop didnt freeze and melt every 0.000001 seconds

[young shore]

My face was on stank mode as I was making this

[wicked berry]

Heavy

Really good

Interesting tone

The synth reminds me of miw

[young shore]

thank uu

[wicked berry]

Ofc!!

[young shore]

It Was actually inspired by mick gordon soundtracks lol

[wicked berry]

Ohhhhhhhh makes sense

Totally

Sick

[tribal orbit]

They just require too much mixing to be worth it imo

also the snare samples

[kind blaze]

little terrible Everlong cover made when i testing how mic recording clasic guitar

[fringe geode]

It's a relatively similar process. Just depends on the style of rock your going for.

[fringe geode]

@sacred estuary This is the Karnivool esc song I was talking about.

@tribal orbit @wicked berry Wot chu think. When I initially shared the track here forever ago, I used GGD for the drums, I remixed it using EzDrummer 3.

[wicked berry]

massive snare holy

the mix is great

[sacred estuary]

will listen in a bit. chatting w my partner and if i keep bouncing between chats i'll have to start it over she goes to work soonish tho

[fringe geode]

Ah okay LMK when you take a listen :3

[wicked berry]

i love the whole kit tbh

nice kick, hi hats, snare

cymbals are great

very good mix

also good bass

guitar tone fits the mix

[fringe geode]

Took forever to get it that way, The drum bus is doing a lot of the heavy lifting

[wicked berry]

yea i would think so

[fringe geode]

But some work was done to the snare too.

[wicked berry]

i would fall asleep to it lmao

nice and calm

[fringe geode]

It all Neural. But different plugins for each part.

The High Gain is the Mark IIC+ (My favorite)
The crunch is Rabea Amp 2. Which is ch. 1 of the 50w Kraken.
The clean is also Rabea, Amp 1. Which is a Fender Twin.
The bass is Parallax

[wicked berry]

ahh niceee

[fringe geode]

Yeeee. I don't mind paying for my source tones like good drums or amp sims or even IRs. But I mix using essentially freeware.

[wicked berry]

yea

do you use fabfilter for anything

[fringe geode]

Nope

[wicked berry]

nice

[fringe geode]

I use TDR Nova as my EQ.

Cuz it has an option where it can double as a multiband compressor if I need it.

And if I REALLY need to be surgical, or need more bands on my EQ, Reaper's built in one is fantasitc.

[wicked berry]

true true

[fringe geode]

Took me a long to figure out how to mix. I still don't know wtf Im doing ngl XD

[sacred estuary]

okay she just headed off, listening now

this reminds me so much of something.. definitely a local band from way back

loving the heck outta this

like, actually a fantastic track

right up my alley

[fringe geode]

I'm glad you're liking it :3

[sacred estuary]

one of my favorite styles of music

def post more stuff and lemme know when/if ya do

do you have a vocalist?

[fringe geode]

Nope

I'm using SynthV for vocals

[sacred estuary]

what that

[fringe geode]

Think Vocaloid mixed with IRs for voices.

It's a voicebank

[sacred estuary]

ah okay

lemme know when ya add em in. i'm keen to see how it all comes together

good vocalist is hard to find. everyone thinks they can do it but the vast majority are real bad lol

[fringe geode]

I will :3

Whenever I update the mix significantly I usually post it.

[sacred estuary]

awesome. i would say the bass could go up a lil bit, but that might just be my earbuds

[fringe geode]

Earbuds usually lack bass.

[sacred estuary]

most of mine historically have had too much

[fringe geode]

Or it's the opposite in some cases lol.

[sacred estuary]

i had a band in the late 00s/early 10s. kind of.. hard rock with a similar vibe like.. but way less creative lol

[fringe geode]

But I have sensitive hearing (albiet damaged as I have slight tinnitus due to playing loud amps for many years) so earbuds and me don't mix.

[sacred estuary]

same lol. we used to practice in a tiny metal storage unit lol

very loud

[fringe geode]

Ouch

[sacred estuary]

yeaaa

i shoulda worn earplugs but the only good ones back then that didn't actually block sound were hundreds of dollars

[fringe geode]

Yeah I used to blast them old Rectos back in the day. Shoulda worn ear pro but ehh

I describe it as a "sonic condom"

[sacred estuary]

lmao yeah pretty much

altho i wouldn't recommend googling that

the only ones we could afford were the yellow foamy ones, and those are not great if you actually want to hear what you're playing

i also went to a tonnn of loud shows

so that didn't help the whole hearing thing

but ye. i gotta get some sleep lol

really great track, i look forward to hearing more. if you've posted any others in here, link me to em, i'll give em a peep

have a good night!

[fringe geode]

Good night bro!

[runic adder]

ok which one do y'all like more - the first one with Granophyre + Bogren downtuned IRs or this one with just nameless x

[fringe geode]

Personally I like the Nameless X because it's just massive and untamed. THAT SAID, mix wise I think Grano + Bogren downtuned IRs might be the way. It gives the bass some room to breathe.

That said there's this low mid push in Nameless X that fills it out nicely that the Granophyre lacks.

Try combining both sounds together.

Just note your gonna wanna EQ them separately first before you bring them into a bus for further processing. Joey Sturgis goes into this process more if you wanna delve deeper into it.

[runic adder]

they're fully processed already

same relative process for both - EQ and saturation

and yeah, the balancing on the nameless version is a little off

[fringe geode]

No I meant like. If you're gonna combine the sounds of the Grano and the Nameless, you'll have to EQ separately before you continue doing your usual thing. Each amp with their IRs have their own nasty resonant frequencies y'know?

[runic adder]

ooooh yeah

definitely

[fringe geode]

I don't combine amps often, but it's the process I go through when I combine the Mesa Mark with the SLO.

I'm not good at modern metal like thall or anything. That'll take me years to learn how to mix for that, but usually the same process applies.

[fringe geode]

But yeah I'd recommend combining the almost buzzsaw nature of the Grano with that almost untamed mid push of the Nameless. You'd probably get something super unique out of it.

[runic adder]

hows thiss

[fringe geode]

It's a good start. The Nameless cab tames the Granos buzz saw nature a little bit while giving it a bit of a mid bump.

There are certain cabs in Neural's collection that are really stupidly good. Nameless' cab is one of them.

[tribal orbit]

I took a quick listen last night, forgot to reply. It’s good, I think. I’ll have to reposted for a better response, but I can’t remember anything sticking out as “bad”

[tribal orbit]

Upon relisten, the only complaint I have is the drums are a tad too roomy

[fringe geode]

Ahh. Thanks for the feedback! I like roomy drums ^^;

EzDrummer 3 doesn't have the best room (which is something I'll admit GGD excels at, their rooms are immaculate), so I compensated a little with reverb.

[tribal orbit]

Fair, I usually like my drums pretty dry, so that's a personal thing

[spare sundial]

Been a hot minute, but I'm back making metal

[wicked berry]

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1EQOj6GK-SfiRHx3OHE1WgkD0dYR6mGeu/view?usp=sharing

i kind of suck at mixing

but this is something i put together

i need advice

[fringe geode]

Not a bad first attempt.

Lower the guitars about a dB, raise the drums and the bass about the same and add some compression on them drums.

[wicked berry]

Ay thanks

[kind blaze]

intro

[runic adder]

how different do these sound from each other

L uses the nameless head, R uses the granophyre head, everything else is the same

am considering just using one or the other though

full mix for context

[blissful cliff]

Phonk Metal

[blissful cliff]

That Bass tone wtf
just about made me shit my pants, good work dude

[untold knot]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IoMVZm9c6NU posted this in #1095996414481416274 a bit back, figured i might aswell share it here :)

It's a vocal cover i did of Nik's Come To Brazil as a first project, let me know what you think :)

[kind blaze]

Posted this guitar solo improvisation a couple days ago and would love to know what people think 🙂 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBsbrRhp6g4&ab_channel=Elwood

[spare sundial]

Thanks so much man!

For me personally, the secret of the Djinnbass 2 plugin is to use just the DI bass with a little bit of grit

I believe it's through the Archetype Nolly cab but I have to double check

[fringe geode]

Nameless is more low mid forward....kinda has this ooaaa sound. It also has a very sparkly high end to it that the Grano doesn't have.

Grano on the other hand is more upper mid forward (its so aggressive), tight er, and has a certain grindy characteristic to it. It high end isn't as sparkly but I think that's fine.

[spare sundial]

Expanded on it and changed the guitar tone. Fortin Nameless Suite is the goat

[kind blaze]

My first ever cover of song with not clean vocals

[blissful cliff]

Metalcore/punk track with goofy ahh breakdown

[kind trail]

Wdyt of mix and production?

Guitar tuned down to A# for this one so I'm mainly concerned about the low end on this one

[lost dew]

https://youtu.be/YMSk3YLMWis?si=TMMpHG4vBbgI4Y98

[versed remnant]

New drum vst and song idea

[wicked berry]

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1LMMRaX1wbXVPn3udjM96VWobwcuGtDJv/view?usp=sharing some darko inspired shit

[wicked berry]

Nice I like

Heavy riff

Giving me slipknot vibes

[kindred scaffold]

Ough that's fucking sick

[wicked berry]

ayyyyyy thanks lol

[versed remnant]

ILL TAKE IT THAT KINDA WHAT I THOUGHT

its almost done

I pretty much just have vocals to do now

its a deathcore song now

with

two breakdowns

a 21 second fry scream for the first breakdown callout

which reads My Iq Is Six

A beautiful piano part right before the second breakdown

And

a cool buildup

it totalled to 8 minutes

ykw I can't say its deathcore

idk what it is

theres lots of deathcore elements

mostly the drums

but

like

weird melodys that feel more metalcore

but also the breakdown feels like some shit Netherwalker would do without brick vocals and is 80 bpm

like

idk what this shit is

[wicked berry]

oh sick id love to hear it

[versed remnant]

lemme render it rq

I still have mostly no vocals

so

keep that in mind

Oh wonderful I can't send it in the server

its too big

[wicked berry]

Lol

I normally use google drive

And send a link

[versed remnant]

What do we think of this (pre vocals still, just need feedback on the current mix)

[tribal orbit]

The mix is narrow overall, but nothings sticking out as like an "ow, my ear". I think the guitar needs to be a bit brighter imo, maybe a little less gain?

@versed remnant

and the lead tone is too similar to the rhythm, so they clash at 2:30 ish?

[versed remnant]

Noted and noted, thank you for the feedback ur the best

How can I make the mix wider?

[tribal orbit]

Are you ahrd panning the guitars left and right?

[versed remnant]

Yeah I have a left and right track for lead, I also for the most part don't have a rythym going until the second half of the song, that middle space is entirely drums and bass

[versed remnant]

I think I fixed a lot of it it sounds a bit more full

I also added rythym guitar

and I did some vocals to it but only for the breakdown and build up to the breakdown

@tribal orbit

[versed remnant]

Chat what do we think

[wicked berry]

what drum vst??

i like the song

[wicked berry]

is it krimh?

[versed remnant]

Yesyes

[wicked berry]

i thought i knew those toms

[versed remnant]

I might actually buy the paid version I love the way it sounds

So much

[wicked berry]

how much is it i dont remember?

[versed remnant]

I’ve been looking for a nice free vst with nice punchy kick and nice sounding symbols i’ve been using easydrummer or some shit I totally forgot the name of the other one but

[versed remnant]

No clue I saw the free version and didn’t look any further

[wicked berry]

same lmao

[versed remnant]

It sounds so good for no reason dude its insane

[wicked berry]

i know its my favorite free drum library

[versed remnant]

Fax bro im so glad i found it

[wicked berry]

Same lol it helped me learn so much before getting a better library

[tribal orbit]

Still narrow

are you recording two takes for the rhythm and then panning them? Cuz it still seems mono

[wicked berry]

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1g63nUEINW66vidVnD73639k-LSLJ5aZ2/view?usp=sharing

[versed remnant]

The rythym is a monotrack I have lead dualtracked

[open canyon]

gang is this shi fire or nah

[open canyon]

brother HAHHAHA

thats crazy good tho

[wicked berry]

thanks lmao

[wicked berry]

yes it is

[open canyon]

yay

[kind blaze]

i love it

[kind blaze]

suno ai?

[kind blaze]

intro

[open canyon]

that basline slapin doe ayo

[kind blaze]

Guitar part added

Not Shure about it but gonna keep it for some time

[open canyon]

expanded on the songgg

whatchall think

lol

(pls gibb feedback)

and idea

s

[kind blaze]

sadly yes

giving it 9000% on this demo guys

[open canyon]

thats so fucking fire ohmy

[open canyon]

tho tbh the background cleans on that one part should prolly be in falsete and a lil more power behind the cleans

the mix is so good tho dammmmn

that snare is fucking explooosivveee

[kind blaze]

here the whole track

[kind blaze]

thank you man

goonna fix it asap

im firing this shit up

[open canyon]

ks evolved bahhhaha

[open canyon]

if you want to i could do the cleans for you jus for fun tee hee

[kind blaze]

:o

instrumental is from jacob lizotte

but i dont have any bucks to buy the copy :(

the licence

[kind blaze]

im down

i dont have a band yet

[open canyon]

jus send me the track w/out the cleans and then the lyrics for it and ill do it as soon as i wake up tmrw lol

i added you btw so jus send me whenever bahah

[kind blaze]

appreciate your feedback a lot man

[open canyon]

wait are you swedish? lmao

[kind blaze]

looool i got viking blood in me but im not

[open canyon]

shi

[kind blaze]

sorry m8, godden abend

lol

[open canyon]

thought i heard a swedish accent lmao

[kind blaze]

:O

FR?

[open canyon]

idk i was prolly jus tweakin lmao

[kind blaze]

this mix happened on coincidence btw lol

[open canyon]

anyways as said jus dm the track n shi like i said and ill lay pipe on the beat lol

ima sleep now so 🙏

[kind blaze]

hell yea

catch ya up soon

cant write you

somehow discord bugging

[kind blaze]

How da fuck he goes so low

[kind blaze]

My best try

[sage plinth]

this is

something

[kind blaze]

Yeah
Still learning

It sounds pretty bad off mix

[spare sundial]

Who needs guitars

[fringe geode]

Did an EzDrummer Mix!

[ruby sparrow]

👽

[wicked berry]

Awesome

[ripe basalt]

what do you guys think about my album cover

[wicked berry]

Looks black metal af

[ripe basalt]

I dont want it to look black metal cuz it is a deathcore album😭

[wicked berry]

What kind of deathcore

Because it can look like deathcore

Like old school deathcore I guess

Don't know how to explain what I mean

But it can go deathcore for sure

[ripe basalt]

something like disemobodied tyrant and infant annihilator

thats what i am aiming for

[wicked berry]

Ooh nice

Looks good to me

Let me know when it drops

[ripe basalt]

It will take a lot of time but i will try to lock in on this project

[wicked berry]

Same here for mine

Mines like disembodied tyrant and worm shepherd

For style

[wicked berry]

I got this guy to help me with mixing and some writing and vocals

[versed remnant]

How do we feel about this?

[brave otter]

Trying to make spooky song but I cant get the mix right

[versed remnant]

I love music tech

[swift slate]

idk about the groovy part of the file name but something i made recently

this is not mixed just in case

[kind blaze]

midwest emo or something

Gonna add some vocals

Lol

[kind blaze]

i need someone to do vocals

[wicked berry]

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Rj3Cv_hrD4wwrVCK-ZTelufxKgunsn_M/view?usp=sharing

i dont even know

some playing is off time but ignore that its a draft

[versed remnant]

what do we think of this riff Idea I had in 7/4, what can I change to make it better?

[wicked berry]

change 7/4 to 4/4 (just kidding, i actually fw the riff)

[versed remnant]

How would I even-

What genre is this riff even

I confused myself

[wicked berry]

i dont know...

[versed remnant]

fucking 7/4

its like

death metal

but like

slam kinda

[wicked berry]

i suck at genres tbh im confused

[versed remnant]

but like

idfk

[wicked berry]

i see whatchu mean

[versed remnant]

all I know is that blast beats

its also just in drop C

its sounds brutal for a drop C riff]

[wicked berry]

it does

[versed remnant]

I think its just death metal right?

I mean like

it kinda sounds how Frantic Disembowlent down like the trem picking

[wicked berry]

sounds like death metal to me

[narrow trail]

Guys, what do you think of this as a vocal demo?

[kind blaze]

Hey guys if you have a band please let me know! i can get you some promotion done on twitch on a small streamer page but the people are very open to listen to ya'lls music!

[tall aurora]

What's up guys
So, I've been working on a musical direction that fuses electronic music with metal, and this is a new thing I've been working on, and I'm liking the results so far
Let me know what you think about it :3
https://soundcloud.com/wkmusicofficial/midtempoelectro-industrialmetalidk/s-2cDU4aRB2wp?si=136b7eb9c0854962ad0dfae84cbeb287&utm_source=clipboard&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=social_sharing

[fathom jewel]

vocal hooks have been added

[wicked berry]

I'm working on a symphonic deathcore ep and the first single of it will be out soon and I'm only 15 so it might suck a little haha but people I've showed it to seem to like it

The single will have dondoesvocals on it

And it will be mixed by pvthos

Both are on this server with us

[wicked berry]

This is really really cool

Like fr

[wicked berry]

Holy shit so is this

Crazy stuff you all

[tall aurora]

Thanks dude 😄

[versed remnant]

Something I made just now, I'd appreciate any feed back

I know I need to work on the bass accents still

[blissful cliff]

Any thoughts on the mix? This is the first time I've made a track like this, and something feels a bit off

[blissful cliff]

Sounds pretty good if you're going for that old school death metal feel. Once you fix the bass, I'd retrack some of the guitars and try to nail that timing in a couple of those spots

[kind trail]

Revisited an Old Demo and laid down some rudimentary vocals, wdyt?

[kind blaze]

its happening guys

[open canyon]

gang does this dark, o? or nah?

[lavish sundial]

it does, yeah

[blissful cliff]

Deathcore go brrrrrrrr

[kind blaze]

aaaayyyeeeeee

[open canyon]

shi heavy

[nimble cloud]

Want peoples honest opinions on my bands EP we just released. It’s a long time coming and these are old songs that we’ve completely re done to sort of announce our return into making music together. Next EP drops early 2025

https://open.spotify.com/album/5FnyI5f4BiVkcBlDw9gt8p?

[wicked berry]

I like it alot

Also great album cover

[sand steeple]

incelcore moment

[versed remnant]

Started doing a remaster of an old song I made on my first album, thoughts on the current state?

[fathom jewel]

darko with shreddage keyswitch noises

[scenic heath]

New project. I realized transitions between sections sound better than just dropping a new riff

[runic adder]

yah that's usually the case

[open canyon]

perhaps yes

[versed remnant]

Added harmonies, more to the intro, other stuff, an ouitro, just really need to do vocals and my sfx now

https://open.spotify.com/track/2B3dbBi1sgatTf5jXwK2yp?si=a352e1d3d203407f

theres the original for reference

This one I just changed some of the outro/breakdown stuff

[blissful cliff]

Guys, I need critiquing on my vocals mixing.

[wicked berry]

I can't critique I have zero experience but dude it sounds awesome af

Good songwriting too

[versed remnant]

vocals!!

[turbid radish]

the vocals have the best mixing in this mix so gj i say

im getting born of osiris vibes

[blissful cliff]

Well thank you!

That's actually super encouraging considering that's what I've struggled with the most to get sounding good

[lost dew]

https://open.spotify.com/track/1EdyK1aQjp7DU4cGcDv4HG?si=4iqG63ruQ1iVZ3PhCIUU9w

[tribal orbit]

lacks clean vocals (thats the buzzy synth atm), properly written drums, and real bass, but I think it's coming along

[cerulean storm]

Sounds really good!

Something new I'm working on. Happy to hear any feedback! 🙂

[cerulean storm]

Heavy like tungsten!

[kind blaze]

thanks!

[kind blaze]

goofy ahh brake

[cerulean storm]

Not metal this time. From my instrumental side project, this one comes (Ambient atmospheric). Recorded with real instruments (except for the synth).

[kind blaze]

i love it sick ambiance

finaly instrumental part finished i think

[kind blaze]

Wanna know what you guys think

[versed remnant]

What do we think of the instrumental mix for this cover of TV by Billie Eilish?

[tribal orbit]

I don’t like the original song, but it has potential

[versed remnant]

What do you think of the mix on it?

I feel like the guitar tones are a little murky at parts so I wanna work on my tones a bit

[fringe geode]

The Break the Glass series is back with Break the Glass IX!!!

@tribal orbit @wicked berry

[fathom jewel]

do you upload your music anywhere?

on like soundcloud/bandcamp/spotify?

[fringe geode]

No, I should tho. Been thinking about it lately.

Why do you ask?

[fathom jewel]

I asked because you were referring to a series, so I thought this track might be a part of a collection of songs that I havent heard yet

[fringe geode]

I have uploaded a number of them here as they've been made. I think I skipped 5 but that's because I never ended up not liking it lol.

[hollow tulip]

revisited

[wicked berry]

Fuck yeah 🤘I love it

[honest perch]

I love that pfp

[wicked berry]

Same lol, took the logo, and played with effects

Turned out real nice

[cerulean storm]

Reminds me of Rings of Saturn; nice!

[fringe geode]

Thanks!

[wicked berry]

Check it out

I make rap beats starting at $3000 for anyone interested^^^^

[tribal orbit]

Guitars narrow and muddy. The drums are the most dominant aprt of the mix atm.

Bass is... fine?

[tribal orbit]

Good riffage. Me like. Any plans for vocals?

[kind blaze]

few fixes for instrumentals

[versed remnant]

Yesyes i needa turn down the gain on the guitars

[tribal orbit]

Gain, and EQ. Too mcuh in the mids i think?

[versed remnant]

@tribal orbit do u know how to count time sig

I can't figure this one out for the life of me

heres a riff I came up with

I can't figure out the ts

I wanna say 5/4 maybe

idk tho

[tribal orbit]

I’m not great at it, but I can check it later

[versed remnant]

I put it in 16/4

it works

I could half it to 8/4 but each repeat of the riff would use two bars

so

ykw it doesn't matter i'ma j put it in 8/4

[fringe geode]

Dunno yet. Might turn it to a full fledged song before I do.

[versed remnant]

Quick little idea test I whipped up with that riff I came up with earlier

[hollow tulip]

Thanks, glad you like it
It's supposed to sound kinda chaotic like Slipknot with the drumming and snare tone because the original theme came from a EXTREMELY stressful boss fight
but on second thought it does sound kinda technical

[kind blaze]

Guys, is there any female metal singer here who likes to do funny metal stuff? We want to make 1-2 tracks on the album where there would be female vocals (we need someone who can sing clean and possibly extreme vocals) if you want, write to me (also looking for a male vocalist for another track, so if you want to do a Feat, write)

[hoary heart]

I'd be open to tracking some of the male vocals depending on the needs and style...

[kind blaze]

We can talk in dm!

[kind blaze]

if there are others interested dm me!

[humble smelt]

A raw instrumental demo of a punk song I cooked up some time ago. The playing is a bit sloppy and the mix probably isn't that good but I think it's enough to get the point

[blissful cliff]

I mean I'd be down

[kind blaze]

nice!

[versed remnant]

Honestly kinda banger I like the direction this is taking a lot now

[wicked berry]

nice riff bro!

woah synth too

[versed remnant]

Synth go brr

[versed remnant]

This probably my favorite riff i’ve come up with

[wicked berry]

awesome

its pretty badass

[versed remnant]

Tyty

I have no ideas on how to do vocals on this tho

[wicked berry]

do you ever scream?

[versed remnant]

I do screams thats my vocal style

I just don’t know how to scream on it

[wicked berry]

fc fry, yk

[wicked berry]

yea

i know what you mean

[versed remnant]

Its like idk how to fit this groove

Cuz

Its groovy as fuck

[wicked berry]

indeed

[versed remnant]

I just don’t know how to work vocals into it

I think i’ma try some early bmth style frys on it or some miw screams

Idk

I’ll figure it out

[wicked berry]

nice

did i cook

[versed remnant]

FIRE

MASTERPIECE

BRAVO

ENCORE

[wicked berry]

lmao ty

i do alotttt of brainrot symphony stuff

[versed remnant]

I liked the violins

[wicked berry]

you can probably find more by scrolling up lmao

[wicked berry]

thanks

[versed remnant]

They were

Short

[wicked berry]

metropolis

[versed remnant]

And nice

[wicked berry]

stacatto

[versed remnant]

I have an orchestral black metal waltz I made somewhere on my pc

[wicked berry]

damn that sounds fire just from the description

[wicked berry]

bruh...

[versed remnant]

It’s 3/4 as are waltz’s, it uses violins and shit the most un black metal instruments and shit for a beautiful intro and then the tremming starts and screams

And its beautiful

[wicked berry]

amazing

[versed remnant]

I needa find that again

It was fire

[wicked berry]

lmk if you do

[versed remnant]

I think this is the best I'm gonna get out of the vocals

[kind blaze]

Guys we still searching for female vocals! If you interested DM me

[tribal orbit]

idk a wip

[fringe geode]

Whynot use the SynthV voicebank?

[kind blaze]

find someone who would sing it more fun)

[kind blaze]

remaking old riff

[fringe geode]

I completely understand that

[kindred scaffold]

This is some good shit holy fuck

[wet breach]

need opinions on this riff

came up with it in like 15 minutes or something

i get my inspo for my riffs from knocked loose and to the grave stuff so idk

[tribal orbit]

This sounds wrong, vocally. The mix is eh for now

but I wanna re-record my cleans

shit's pissin me off

[versed remnant]

I need thoughts on this concept idea for a song from y'all por favor

[versed remnant]

@tribal orbit , if you have a chance could you take a look at this for me?

[tribal orbit]

it's cyber-punk esque

guitar mixing still needs work

[scarlet brook]

kind of ripped off Diamond Construct and mixed in some other riffs. any tips/opinions?

[versed remnant]

Is it a little better now? I started dual tracking with two different tones for each ear cuz I feel like thats something I hear a lot in music and I wanted to try

[tribal orbit]

Idk whats going on in your mixes atm cuz they feel very narrow, at least in the guitars. The drums sound big and wide

[versed remnant]

how make them wider

[wet breach]

put one guitar track all the way to the right and one all the way to the left

or you could quad track them

makes the sound super huge

but i genuinely have no fucking clue how to mix thats just advice i was shared by my buddies dad whos a sound guy

[versed remnant]

I did do that I have an L and R track with different tones

[wet breach]

thats odd it sounds like its in the center

[hollow tulip]

some project i made quite some time ago while trying to "borrow" the Fear Factory style of industrial metal
this is a remix of Heian Alien (fyi)

[tribal orbit]

is the track panned pre-fx? cuz ik thats a thing in some daws

[versed remnant]

It’s dual tracked usually I have my lead tone left and right and my rythym down the middle with bass

But on the electronic one i sent its rythym on right and lead on left

Two tones playing for the most part the same thing but some alternations

I hear that a lot in edpecially deathcore

Like pray for plagues

The lead tone is left and rythym is right

You hear it very heavily during the solo

[tribal orbit]

The synth is dual tracked, yeah, I hear that

but the guitars def feel narrow

idk why dawg

unless I look at your mix, I won't know

[scenic bronze]

https://youtu.be/Smj-QvpYR1w?si=ovecN3TWSGcyyTEI

feedback on my bands song

[ripe elk]

hello people what do you think about this riff I just cooked up? and yes I know I need to retrack the clean guitar

[wet breach]

tried doing some djenty stuff

any thoughts?>

[swift slate]

made a short thingy to try out my new MIDI keyboard i got for my birthday 👀

[tribal orbit]

I can't think of what this reminds me of. Maybe Whitechapel's Kin album?

it deec tho

[tribal orbit]

needs more chainsaws

jkjk

I think an eery synth with a basic heavy drum beat behind it would help it out

like a pad with some vinyl distortion

[tribal orbit]

Feels like a christmas metal song

very bassy tho

also adjusted vocals. Is any good?

@fringe geode

[versed remnant]

I’ll send you some screenies tonight of what my average mix looks like w the fx chains and stuff

I finally stopped using tonocracy yesterday cuz I finally learned how to properly use fx chains

[wet breach]

ive got some ideas for it

very mick gordon

[wet breach]

working on this one has been fun

any thoughts?

specifically 39 seconds

[kind blaze]

any opinions / feedback?

[native cedar]

Lmao I love my English class teacher, any thoughts on this? Btw the actual audio length is around 30-35 seconds so far

[wicked berry]

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1qJsxM3LUYpEqQBIIGd6E6GTNmKycksQI/view?usp=sharing

good bass?

anyone?

[wicked berry]

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1jt-tLnc-omX7o67fLH5RtMRP6MDQQqB7/view?usp=sharing better mixing in this one

[fathom jewel]

I can hear a lot of white noise

[fringe geode]

The vocals are pretty fuckin good bro!

[hollow tulip]

updates
changes on drum mixing
streamlined the song so it's a bit shorter

[hollow tulip]

fixed a minor error in the drums around 3:08

[fringe geode]

This fuckin rips. How'd you get the drums to sound like that?

Also sidenote: Nice PFP. The ONI logo :3

[wicked berry]

this is really cool!

[tribal orbit]

tyty!

Hopefully will have it closer to finished in the next month or so. Lacks real Bass and Drums

[fringe geode]

I think bass wise it just needs a slight bump in level but the drums are pretty raw yeah.

[tribal orbit]

that + a real recording lmao

Drums are fake and not programmed to sound too realistic

[fringe geode]

That's fine.

Not all drums have to sound realistic. If that's a concern you can always tweak it later.

[hollow tulip]

God damn

[hollow tulip]

definitely Kin vibes

it's slow and mostly palm muted with focus on groove

[hollow tulip]

added some ambiance in the beginning and end to sort of set up a "mood" (do you like before or after the addition?)
also made the rhythm guitar slightly louder

[sullen vector]

any suggestions to improve the mix on this?

[versed remnant]

what do we think of the concept

[narrow trail]

Good start so far!

[cerulean storm]

Something heavy I'm working on:

[cerulean storm]

Sounds really good!!

[cerulean storm]

This is so sick! Great job, man!

[ruby sparrow]

not my best mix

[quasi summit]

Is my tone alright?

[tribal orbit]

The low chugs sound really percussive imo

[tribal orbit]

I think you need to cut anything lower than 100 or 120 before the amp sim. So an EQ before it

[quasi summit]

I was planning on adding a multi band compressor afterwards that tames the low end during palm mutes

[tribal orbit]

I think pre-EQ might be better tho

That way you’re not sacrificing any time post-amp

Tone*

[swift slate]

something i made to try out the trivium drums and the GGD cab contenders plugin

it's not mixed in any way tho

btw there is no GGD cab contenders on the cleans

only on the distorded guitars

[fringe geode]

A better toan than I can certainly get out of Gojira default IRs.

Personally I really dislike Gojira's cabs. Other than 1st cab for cleans, I generally really dislike them.

[quasi summit]

How’d you know that I was using archetype Gojira?

[fringe geode]

A. Because Gojira cabs have a very specific sound to them that are real easy to pick out.

B. I've owned it for a long time lol.

Even if I didn't own it Archetype Gojira is EVERYWHERE in metalcore now.

Buster uses it with Vildhjarta and HLB.
Architects use it (I believe in alongside Josh Middleton's plugin with STL.)
Bleed From Within use it.
Ermin Hamidovic uses it in his mixes even tho in a convo with him, he admitted he didn't like it.
Obviously Gojira use it.

And that's just a few examples.

Arc Gojira is becoming a standard now in metalcore, much like how Nolly was for a little bit.

[swift slate]

me when i try wierd shit lol

[tribal orbit]

me when I've been listening to a lot AoF and Offspring and wrote this

[covert elbow]

So far the best blegh i have done

[rose plume]

nasty vocals

[kind blaze]

Thoughts?

(Hopefully the thing works)

Nvm I just tampered with it

[covert elbow]

I legit dont even know what to call this

[empty roost]

Skip to ab halfway for dirty vocals, also turn the discord audio file volume down, loud master :p

[craggy plover]

hi guys, I'm making an orchestral cover of Immortal by Lorna Shore. any thoughts on orchestration? still haven't touched dynamics and mix

[gritty goblet]

Could someone help me. I am going crazy because I want to make a full song, but I always want to go for ✨ the perfect song ✨ and never get anything finished. Is this a good riff for a verse or should I indeed keep iterating it

I have this issue with pretty much all my riffs

[versed remnant]

Thoughts on the thrasher?

[real harness]

Hey everyone. I've finally released my first song with vocals. And I'd really love some feedback on it. Also on the video, because I just put it together in my bedroom, and don't know much about mv making. I'd really appreciate any feedback.
https://youtu.be/o7KFUdg9A3A?si=GQ3Vlt-2N-Kh8DOi

[fringe geode]

So I wanted to make music like the game Nier but instead I made this short test riff thingy. @tribal orbit @swift slate @wicked berry

[wicked berry]

Oh that goes hard

I like it alot

[fringe geode]

Thanks! I honestly had no idea what I was doing and that's what popped out of my brain.

[wicked berry]

I get that lmao

[fringe geode]

BTW I've switched up my tones on this one. Normally Im using the Mesa Mark IIC+ for my main rhythms and one of the Archetypes for guitar fx. But I'm using the Soldano SLO-100 for my rhythms and the Mesa for my guitar fx.

And I've completely switched over to EZD3 for drums.

[wicked berry]

Oh! That's interesting

[wicked berry]

What did you normally use

[fringe geode]

Usually a frankenkit of GGD Aggressive Rock and Metal.

I stopped because I like switch kit pieces on the fly.

[wicked berry]

Nice

[wicked berry]

I normally combine mario duplantier and Austin archey

[fringe geode]

Plus actually learning how to actually mix drums instead of using premixed ones is fun and EZD3 has a lot of natural drum sounds.

[fringe geode]

Ooooo....if there's one kit that'd make me use Kontakt kits again its the Mario Duplantier kit.

Either the first or 2nd one that just released.

Those kits are just chef's kiss

[wicked berry]

Oh I agreee

[wicked berry]

Man I want that new one

27 or something inch china blew me away

[fringe geode]

For REAL. I actually used to be a drummer and I've NEVER seen a China that big before.

[wicked berry]

I'm a drummer now and that stuff is still ludicrous to me

Never seen that before

Humongous

[fringe geode]

Oooo. What's your kit of choice?

[wicked berry]

Well I actually haven't had any set of drums for the longest time, and had to live off of practicing at school, my friends house, and music stores, but I recently got a roland td 0 something pretty damn basic but if I could choose any kit I'd go with pearl 9 piece something massive

Also, at least 2 bells and 1 stack are required,

[fringe geode]

Pearl kits are really nice. While I used Ludwig for a long time, I actually preferred Gretsch kits myself.

[wicked berry]

Gretsch kits are wonderful

They have nice tone

[fringe geode]

Yes siirrr

Cymbals being sabian are a must.

[wicked berry]

Also I might need Danny careys kit

[wicked berry]

Sabian is great but I'd choose meinl over sabian

[fringe geode]

Zildians are pretty good though. Darker than I'd like but still nice.

[wicked berry]

Yes agreed

[fringe geode]

I haven't tried any Meinls. I've only heard em through plugins like GGD Modern Fusion.

[wicked berry]

Ah yeah that plugin makes good use of them

[fringe geode]

Do they really have that sheen and clarity to em.

[wicked berry]

For sure

I think so

Austin archeys cymbals prove it

[fringe geode]

Austin uses Meinl?

Damn

[wicked berry]

But just by demoing that stuff in music stores yep

[wicked berry]

Hell yes.

And they're BEAUTIFUL

[fringe geode]

Man I gotta try some now. It's been a while since I hopped on the kit for real.

[wicked berry]

Damn

[wicked berry]

Highly recommend

[fringe geode]

Hell yeah. Ever try any DW Kits?

They're really snappy.

[wicked berry]

No I haven't, but I wanna

[fringe geode]

They're snappy like Gretsch kits but have more highs like Tama.

A really nice ring to em.

[wicked berry]

That sounds real nice

[fringe geode]

DWs are great kits. Bit of an aquired taste but I like em.

[wicked berry]

I'll try one out if I see one

[fringe geode]

Actually Dan Searle from Architects is an artist with DW.

[wicked berry]

Oh I love his kit from ggd

It's great

[fringe geode]

His kit from GGD is an SJC kit though. Thats the kit they used on Holy Hell and For Those Who Wish to Exist.

[wicked berry]

Ahhh I see

[cerulean storm]

A little something I'm working on. Just the vocals left.

[fathom jewel]

tesseracting

[craggy plover]

goes hard

the bass solo was on point too

congrats

[craggy plover]

the mix needs some work

[versed remnant]

Little update to a concept I had come up with

I wanna change up the drums some more still

and add some more alternations to the main riff

but

still just in the drawing board phase

[fathom jewel]

that is not a bass, it is a guitar with a bass amp 💀

[kind blaze]

id kill for a band

[fathom jewel]

if I was a member of a thall band I'll let you be the vocalist, you sound almost identical to the vocalist of vildhjarta 🤯

[craggy plover]

cool

[runic adder]

playing around with my new GGD contender pack

I love knocked loose

[swift slate]

ngl i'd gladly like like to have a look at the cabs and mic you used for that tone 👀

[cerulean storm]

Could you be a bit more precise? Exactly what could I change?

[runic adder]

yeah I can break it down for ya

Gojira half-wet octave on the wow pedal
nameless hexdrive
gojira head
ENG, two Orange, and mesa trad cabs

[swift slate]

thx and i have both the gojira and nameless plugin too

[livid dragon]

the guitar tone is siiiiick ^^

[kindred scaffold]

This is sick dude

[runic adder]

tweaked it a little, needed a little more high mid

[runic adder]

I'm not them but I had a question of my own. Did you put compression on the guitars? They seem to be constantly changing volume, especially during what I think is a verse? section at 1:50 and 3:03 are the main culprits. Otherwise, song sounds dope, just need to smooth out some rough cuts between sections

[cerulean storm]

Thank you! Yeah, I've noticed that too. I don't really know what causes it though. I have a limiter on the master, but other than that there's nothing.

[runic adder]

Does it happen even without the limiter?

[cerulean storm]

I can check.

No, it does not. The limiter would appear to be the problem.

But I need it in order to make the audio the same volume as the standards on most platforms.

[runic adder]

I’ll take a listen when I get back to my pc. If anything I can help with the limiter settings

[cerulean storm]

Okay, thank you so much!

[runic adder]

I'm still hearing it around those sections, do you have crossfades on your guitar tracks? Like, going from one take to another?

[cerulean storm]

No, I don't think so. I'll take a look.

[tribal orbit]

ik I;m a few days late, but that sounds pretty neat. I like the intro

[tribal orbit]

It's pretty cool, guitars still narrow like usual

reminds me of metallica with the riff

[craggy plover]

is there a way to set ggd cab plugins in stereo?

two amp sims are too heavy for my cpu along with drums and mix stuff

[craggy plover]

it's a bit messy and distorted

sounds like overcompressed or overlimited

[runic adder]

Not that I’m aware of, but you can export the cab preset as its own IR and use it in an external IR loader

[craggy plover]

thanks you that's very useful

[wicked berry]

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1xdpbCl1vgUpjZIo5dNSdBTaSIiZA-9pO/view?usp=sharing erm, I tried playing around with clippers for the first time

Don't diss the mix it's supposed to sound how it sounds

By that I mean it's supposed to sound like your speakers are breaking

[runic adder]

bwoooooooooow

[floral swallow]

Im trying to mix my song, but this is really first time doing it so i want some feedback to it

I think drums are little to loud and that's the main issue, but i still want to hear others opinion what i could potentialy do better

[floral swallow]

I got jumpscared by the bass

[floral swallow]

Let me know when you finish it. fucking banger🗣️ 🔥

[wicked berry]

Lmao good

[tribal orbit]

I agree with the drums being too loud, the snare and cymbols specificaly

you can probably widen the guitar and bring it up in the mix. The synth arp sounds cool, but I think it could benefit from a little delay (i think?)

Also that snare has a weird treble-y TANG at the end of the hit you might wanna fix with some EQ or soemthing

buut, besides that, it reminds me of like a secret hideout theme song

[atomic viper]

https://drive.google.com/file/d/12vTkF8UDSar_EzGWq0TFj1KXsWpgY0Hd/view?usp=drive_link

its abit sloppy tbh

[floral swallow]

If that TANG you mean is that metalic sound, it should be here, i just added some metal hit sound to make this snare more "Industrial" or smth idk

[floral swallow]

Yeah, guitars are quiet, i think i can try to make them more hearable

[tribal orbit]

Fair enough, it just sounds a little out of the mix. I thing some EQ and maybe some pitch correction so it matches the key would be good

it just sounds dissonant otherwise

[tribal orbit]

Are they hard-panned left and right?

[floral swallow]

No, its just one track, no panning

[floral swallow]

i will try

[tribal orbit]

I think dual-tracking will really bring them up in the mix

help make them pop rather than drowned out and all that

[floral swallow]

How do i do it with one track? just double it and pan left right?

[tribal orbit]

You have to add a 100% wet delay to teh copied track and make it roughly 8-10 ms behind the original

you can also use a doubler function, if you're using a Neural DSP amp

[floral swallow]

Okay, ill try it

[tribal orbit]

just copying and panning left and right will just make it louder down the center channel cuz thats just how sound works yknow

[floral swallow]

Ey, that sounds better now, thanks

You were right, snare is in f# and metalic sound was in A so very close, thats why it sounded dissonant

[floral swallow]

With the cymbals it will be little hard to bring the down as all drums are on whan channel, but i will try just use dynamic eq on highs and maybe it will work

[tribal orbit]

Glad I was able to help

[tribal orbit]

Are you using a drum sim or is it just a recorded track?

[floral swallow]

Midi drums

[tribal orbit]

cuz if it's a sim, you can create a new track with the midi for each group of hits (1x snare, 1x kick, 1x toms, 1x cymbols)

[tribal orbit]

def do this then

create a chain for each group

[floral swallow]

Yeah, but it would be kinda annoing and my pc is lagging on 3 vitals open

I could render it one for one

But ill try it with dynamic eq and if it wont work ill do it

[tribal orbit]

Render each hit track as a .wav for the entire song

[tribal orbit]

I wouldn't cuz it'll take away from the snare

plus if you do each individually, you can dial in each tone with compression, saturation, etc

[floral swallow]

Actually truth

[tribal orbit]

it's tedious at first, but it;s worth

[floral swallow]

I will do render drums separately, but just not now

I think it still sounds better than the first

But now drums are to quiet i think in the breakdown 😭

Fuck it, ill fix it later

[tribal orbit]

The guitars still sound narrow, but otehrwise, it sounds better ye

[floral swallow]

i know, but i panned them left right

[tribal orbit]

Did you delay one of them?

[floral swallow]

yes

[versed remnant]

I CANT FIGURE THIS OUT

starting my music tech final btw

this is the intro I have

@tribal orbit are my guitars wide yet

I have

two tones on left and right lead tracks

which are harmonies

btw

and

I have rythym

with a third tone

right down the middle

as well as bass

[tribal orbit]

Doesn’t sound like it

[tribal orbit]

I’ll listen at some point later

Do you have screenshots of your DAW? Just so I can see what you have going?

[runic adder]

guitars feel a little too bright, kinda lacking body

what're you using for the tone?

[tribal orbit]

The bass is kinda goofy, but the lead tones do feel wide. Now you just gotta do the same for teh rythm

[versed remnant]

Yeah i’ll send em whn i get back home

[versed remnant]

Thats the point its supposed to be funky, IVE ACHIEVED WIDE, and yeah I know how to do that to rhythm now tho i THINK

I think the reason the lead is wide is cuz its properly dual tracked and playing two different things

So i might not have rythym wide immediately j by doing the same

[versed remnant]

Gate, pre eq, gate to push for the volume, distortion pedal, amp sim, post eq, cab sim

Its pretty much the same for all guitar tracks only difference is the amp sim to change the tone

Its three guitar tracks rn

So three different amp sims

Actually wait

I took off the amp sim on the rythym

So that doesn’t have an amp sim

I wanted rythym to be very driving and crunchy

[runic adder]

let me guess:
TSE SDM-2, fortin nameless, GGD cali?

sorry im being an asshole rn, what amp sim(s) and cabs are you using?

[versed remnant]

LePoulin Hybrit on the right track, LePoulin also on the lefy but i forgot exsctly which one, PRO F.E.T. Dist pedal, 7Q EQ (mids pushed on pre, balanced on post), and NadIR with a jaguar cab sim

[runic adder]

oh that's new

and what about the rhythm guitar?

[versed remnant]

@tribal orbit

[runic adder]

can I hear the rhythm isolated?

[runic adder]

I think I'm just tripping then

mightve just been because the bass is matching with the leads instead of the rhythm

[versed remnant]

For the intro yeah it matches lead and rythym

[tribal orbit]

yeah, the lead stuff looks ight

[gleaming haven]

Anyways parts sound off to you guys?

I thought I was cooking but in retrospect maybe I was burning the food

[versed remnant]

how make rythym full

leads are playing two different things

I think thats the only reason it works

also i just added a kick ass chorus

no verse yet

or words

just the chorus instrumentals

[tribal orbit]

same way you did lead lmao

you gotta dual track, pan hard left, hard right

[versed remnant]

so exactly what I did for lead

but

I always do that

you always say its thin sounding

[tribal orbit]

it all sounds kinda... old game midi-ish? Like a SNES soundfont

[tribal orbit]

are you doing two takes?

or just one and copy-pasting it

[versed remnant]

I usually two take but sometimes I'll copy and paste but even then its just a placeholder for when I two take

i just added a second track for rythym right now its just copy and paste but do you like the tones I used on rythym tracks?

[tribal orbit]

Dude I genuinely don't know why that doesn't sound right

very legitimately

cuz you did the same thing as your lead

The tone isn't bad, but the overall mix is kinda... weird?

idk how else to say it atm cuz sleepy

[versed remnant]

Here I did a second take for rythym

[versed remnant]

How is it weird

I'm so confused

idk what im doing wrong

[tribal orbit]

the left take sounds fine, and wide

the right... doesn't? Maybe it's a leveling issue

the bass sample set your using sounds off, thats definitely one big thing

Should be an octave down? or less attack, I think

It just stands out in the mix too much

[versed remnant]

So i should turn bass down and fix my right track?

[runic adder]

iit's a good start, I'd say bass down, guitars up, make sure right and left tracks are balanced with each other

[kind blaze]

Bro thank you very much man i really appreciate thaaat!!

[kind blaze]

HOW DO YOU GET OTHER PADELS INTO GOJIRA??

[tribal orbit]

Multiple instances of the sims

Using them as effects rather than full amp sims

[runic adder]

yeah separate instances lol

If I really wanted to, I could run this entire tone out of Gojira, and I could help you with that if you'd like. I just like fortin nameless's hexdrive over gojira's od pedal, and I'm running GGD contenders for the cabs

GGD has the convenient feature to export presets as IRs, so I could make a lite version of the tone that runs native to gojira lol

well not really lite but you get the idea, def lighter on resources

it's become my Knocked Loose/chainsaw tone

[craggy plover]

really good

but somehow knocked loose tone is dirtier but with a lot a punch

i don't know how they mixed it

but the chugs in kl are explosive

[runic adder]

oh yeah they have a lot more distortion running through that chain than I do

this is just an approximation that I liked

general idea was distortion pedal into 5150 into mesa 412, that swollen pickle pedal does a lot for em too

idk what they did in studio but ik live they run quad cortex into a preamp into actual 4x12s, and that's not something I can emulate with just plugins lol

[craggy plover]

yeah quad cortex is really good

kl sounds great live