Guitars & Bass

[plain vine]

Lol

[rancid yew]

The amp company formed in 1965. Was sold to Hartzell who made their most popular amps in the early 70s, then was sold to Fender in 1985, shut down in 2002, and now they're back under Fender/Mission Engineering

The amps themselves are pretty diverse

@plain vine the 60s amps were made out of Dynaco hifi kits, very clean amps, sparkly, glassy. Then in the 70s things started getting gainier. Especially later on. The Model Ts are some of their most popular amps but the originals are just super high headroom and don't break up until absolutely pushed. They handle pedals great though. In 1978 they came out with the Beta/Alpha series, the Betas RULE! Lots of gain on tap, handles pedals incredibly, the amp gain is sort of like a mix of a RAT and Green Russian Big Muff but with a super, super wide active boost/cut EQ. Most of my Sunns are from 1983-1985, Stagemaster, Enforcer, both Enforcer 4x12s, Stagemaster, and my Model 14 full range cab. The Stagemaster has an updated Beta Lead power amp but with a voltage boost to make it 120 watts instead of the Beta's 100. Has two distinct channels that can be blended, unlike the Betas which have identical channels that can also be blended. The Stagemaster also has a post-gain parametric EQ and a power soak for each channel. You can dial either channel's wattage from 1-120 watts depending on the volume or headroom you want. Then there's my Sunn Enforcer, my favorite amp, all tube, Sunn's last pre-Fender tube amp. Can be switched between 100 or 60 watts, 60 watt mode shuts off two power tubes which doubles the impedance. The Enforcer has a Fender Twin Reverb style channel and a Marshall JCM800 style channel. The Twin channel can do the glassy Fender clean thing but can dial in some really nice crunch and midrange. The JCM800 channel also is darker and more gainy than your average JCM800

https://youtu.be/mYOu78MCXZI?si=jnW40e6-epH--skm

https://youtu.be/aaOTLg8EXsw?si=gsPALAJZl5FYxsv2

https://youtu.be/ac583B7q5I4?si=KaYe-IL-7YWb6Fy5

https://youtu.be/rRlxN6uhduA?si=mceMPT4NWgmKU_Uz

https://youtu.be/wq0--Ux2ExM?si=xkb1OJBcAFMMYW7q

[plain vine]

That’s much more detail than I expected o.o
But that’s pretty cool 🤘

[rancid yew]

This is a demo I did of my Beta Lead's preamp into my Stagemaster's power amp and two Sunn Enforcer 4x12s

[rancid yew]

I will mention the Enforcer stuff are some of the rarest things Sunn ever made. Less than 150 total heads, cabs, and combos were produced. They did two shipments of 50 total, and then partially completed a 3rd shipment before Sunn shut down all production in 1985 after the Fender buyout

The early ones with the straight metal grills are plywood. The ones woth the plastic edges and individual speaker grills are made of MDF. They had to cut costs because Hartzell was going under

My bottom 4x12 is from 1985 and it actually extremely late. Made just weeks before the Fender buyout. My angled 4x12 is very early, 1983, same with my Stagemaster head. My Enforcer combo is from 1984

My Beta Lead is from 1978

[rancid yew]

Also as you can hear here, the Beta's preamp can get almost HM-2 levels of chainsaw with the mids cranked. That was with no pedals whatsoever

When it sounds fuzzier is when I scooped some midrange. The mids are the only controls I touched

[plain vine]

This is some elite ball knowledge

[livid seal]

Aight, time to post some more Kiesel stuff, with different variants! Here are the main builds:

Black alternate variants:

And last, but certainly by no means least. The Instagram-worthy polar burl variants:

[gleaming wing]

That first black one is

[livid seal]

Ayy, thx man!

[livid seal]

Here are some lavender versions!

[cloud beacon]

Cool

[graceful socket]

bro is addicted to the Kiesel builder it seems lol

[open fjord]

GUYS

https://www.guitarworld.com/gear/electric-guitars/fender-godzilla-stratocasters

I am a MASSIVE Godzilla fan and I WANT ONE.

[gleaming wing]

That looks sickkk

[balmy vortex]

Learning to play shit blind is a whole 'nother level of difficult.

Push yourself or get rekt

[odd coyote]

Two completely different styles. One riff I’m certain a lot of u know and one I came up with randomly

[simple garnet]

sloppy axe of kindness to the grave

got fresh strings and wanted to do some thick riffs

[livid seal]

So, you may recognize these builds I'm abt to send, but: I decided to remake my Z2 Multiscale, Solo Baritone, and J-Bass Fretless. Why? For three OCs that I made to be Northlane touring members!

[wise shadow]

looks like triple rectifier

dual and triple are different i love dual more

[rancid yew]

Dual Rec Multiwatt. Hot garbage 😭

[nimble jungle]

My first 8 string arrives Monday or Tuesday

[trim briar]

W

[odd coyote]

Beautiful

[final sky]

New bass coming in Wednesday or Thursday

Schecter Stiletto Studio 5 FF

[keen light]

For context
I was looking on a second hand guitars on a trade page and have found this guitar.
I am having a SERIOUS dilemma now.
Mainly because it is so rare to find and I always wanted this guitar, mainly cuz of it's hardware EMG 81/85, PRS Les Paul, cool design.
But, at the same time, Nick Catanese is a convicted p#do and I'm not sure if I want to perform with it.

[keen light]

Opinion?

[cloud beacon]

Sick bass!

[keen light]

Update: F it, i'm buying it

[open fjord]

https://youtu.be/THoTSdm_v7I?

[nimble jungle]

I need help from someone who regularly plays 8 strings

[smoky widget]

You guys know how to fix a guitar tone where the harmonics are kind of overpowering the fundamental notes

[rancid yew]

What's up?

[nimble jungle]

String gauges!!!

What should I use for drop E and what’s brand should I get

[rancid yew]

Technically most of what you hear are the harmonics anyways. The fundamental makes up a very small part of what we hear whether it's guitar, bass guitar, or even piano

[rancid yew]

Personal preference. Also what scale length? Personally I'd probably go for a 74 if it's 27", I used to use an 80 in that tuning on that same scale when I first got my 8 and it was a bit dull even with EQ

[nimble jungle]

It’s a multiscale

[rancid yew]

What scale to what scale? 27-25.5?

[nimble jungle]

I assume so

Harley Benton measure differently

[rancid yew]

I'd probably go for something around 74 54 42 32 24 16 11 9 personally. I'd suggest Stringjoys since you can make custom sets

They also have a tension calculator that's pretty useful

[nimble jungle]

noted

[rancid yew]

My best advice would be to try fucking around with EQ as much as possible but there's only so much you can do

May have to rerecord it if it's that bad

You can try rolling off highs and boosting the fundamental with EQ, that should even it out. A multiband compressor would help even out the dynamics between frequencies as well

[livid seal]

Chat, I decided to make some Kiesels based on Squier's Affinity lineup. Two surf green Solos (multiscale and baritone respectively), and a classic sunburst J-Bass.

Also a Zeus Acoustic based on the SA-150, but i used roasted maple for the body cuz mahogany doesn't accept Raw Tone lol

[keen light]

New guitar day

[storm fjord]

Opinions?

[livid seal]

Shii, ngl, that ain't too shabby of a guitar! The inlays look mean asf too

[storm fjord]

Right?? Everyone hates the inlays but i love them

[livid seal]

Say, since we're here, I wanted to show you some cool shit of my own, aside from the builds above

More Kiesels! A Delos Headless, baritone Solo, and fretless J-Bass, all inspired by Sean Long's new neon pink Pro-Mod San Dimas

[wise shadow]

for the first time im satisfied with my guitar tone

thanks to kemper

i dont think id ever buy gear

[keen light]

I'll share my gear here too

Well, most of it

[balmy vortex]

Ill share some of the gear i get to use then as well

[livid seal]

Chat, I made some Kiesels based on a Gretsch baritone Electromatic Jet, whaddya think?

[nimble jungle]

You need a 6505 to complete it

The 3 beasts of lunchbox amps

[balmy vortex]

untill you see the zuta la25

[nimble jungle]

Tf is that

[balmy vortex]

One of the best lunch box heads you can get

[nimble jungle]

Hmmm I’ll see about that

6505 is pretty hard to beat mannn

It sounds nice but it doesn’t have the same aggression as the 6505

[plain vine]

Either Mr Wiseman has huge hands or the tab I was using is wrong... Trying to play this song but it has this big stretch, which on a 27" scale guitar is soo big.

My hands are now shakey now

[graceful socket]

can confirm, this is the correct way to play it

this is the way it´s also in the approved SH Tabs as well as all the playthroughs I´ve seen of this on socials and also when I saw them live

playing this on a 26,5" is doable but quite a stretch, so yeah - tough haha

[plain vine]

Damn :(
Guess I just got a skill issue I need to fix then

[real root]

Just got this today from Reverb

[nimble jungle]

HEAT

[tribal vigil]

So i have a 150w line 6 spider 4 head and im looking for something with more balls. I really like the 5150 in Ivory and the Mesa Dual Rec 100w

[nimble jungle]

The Peavey Invective or the 6505 MH are really good options

They don’t break the bank aswell

[trim briar]

https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/LSC607BPS--esp-ltd-stef-carpenter-sc-607-baritone-purple-satin wish they made an 8 in this color

[graceful socket]

how goes the practice?

was just riffing around randomly and had to think of this

[plain vine]

I’ve got to come back to it, I find it hard to lock in learning any one song at a time.

[halcyon tiger]

i noticed something weird with my guitar sound, the g string is like.. intonating with itself i cant explain it

more noticeable higher on the fretboard

help 😭

[sturdy bloom]

its probably the action or neck

[hard ivy]

my freaking guitar pot wires broke, BUMMER

[pure quail]

yo im new here, im interested in playing metalcore, deathcore and all but idk whether to scoop mids or keep them, i dont have a lot of knowledge on tone, at the moment i play slightly scooped with an SD-1 pedal set at low drive and high level to tighten up low end

i also dont got crazy equipment or anything, just a boss katana gen 3 100w

and i guess my guitar isnt really ideal for metal either

i have a yamaha revstar with p90 pickups

[halcyon tiger]

low action?

[trim briar]

Keep mids on the face at like 60 but scoop them in the post amp EQ

Then set up a compressor and tighten your gain a bit, get those lows thick and textured

[open fjord]

Dunno if should keep Neural Mark IIC+ or upgrade to Arc Petrucci

[sturdy bloom]

could be vibrating off of a fret if too low, or uneven frets iis another one

but action or neck bow are the most likely from the problems ive had

[halcyon tiger]

would it be any use if i sent di, maybe its easier to hear what the problem is idk

first same note just a string higher, sounds fine, but the g string is not

i put my action as high as possible and as low and its still doing it

[sturdy bloom]

im struggling to work out what you mean in that

[halcyon tiger]

same note different string for comparison

[sturdy bloom]

i dont really hear what your trying to say tho

it sounds like the same note to me nothing sounds wrong

[halcyon tiger]

its a different story when its amped

[sturdy bloom]

try it amped instead then

[sturdy bloom]

yeah sounds like your string is vibrating with the fret there

so either
A) Neck relief/bend
B) Uneven frets or action is set wrong

or a combination of things

worst case scenario if you dont know can always take it somewhere if possible

[open fjord]

https://youtu.be/ApccIPl-B4g?

[livid seal]

Yo, Chat, rate my walnut-centric Kiesel Guitars builds:

[bronze berry]

10/10 they're all gorgeous. I could stare at these walnut beauties for hours.

[livid seal]

Yoo, tysm! 🤘

[bronze berry]

You're welcome 😊

[livid seal]

I have several other Kiesel builds, if you wanna see!

[bronze berry]

Sure!

[livid seal]

I got some Lavender bois for ya:

[bronze berry]

https://tenor.com/view/american-psycho-impressive-very-nice-coping-patrick-bateman-gif-26518058

[trim heron]

My very masculine and tastefull gear collection

[proper jewel]

Hey all. Quick question but I have the chance to get the RG421HPAH(600) or rg631alf(700) which would be the better option in the long run?
I'll be able to test them tomorrow to see which ultimately feels better

[balmy vortex]

Rg631 has the better bridge, but it also depends how you take care of the guitar. Id personally swap to passives on that guitar tho. Depending on how both feel

[plain vine]

Somebody pls pass us a million yen. I need it

[nimble jungle]

Tone wise just whatever sound good to you

But be mindful on your presence

[plush elbow]

one man band

[open fjord]

https://youtu.be/_9bschMGXnY?

[trim briar]

Ruined

[floral bobcat]

Traded my ibanez bass for the fender

[plain vine]

I like the purple colour on the purple one

[floral bobcat]

It changes colors. From a sky blue to that purple, i love it. Thinking of switching the pickups to some dimarzio or 6string fishman fluence

[plain vine]

Cool

[trim briar]

https://youtu.be/4i39e92_0Sg?si=yLdPOwkyAgY-b4p1 I need this fucking tone holy SHIT

[rancid yew]

Got these todat. The Ampeg has TWO EVM 12Ls and the back is filled with an obscene amount of cool stuff. A full brand new Fender pickup set, various cables, and the original owner's manual and schematic. Guy threw in a free dual guitar stand too. Ungodly cheap

[open fjord]

https://youtu.be/6rWasoY290U?

[gleaming wing]

I want that pedal so bad

[graceful socket]

I really want to get the Noise pedal someday but with 260$ + international shipping + import tax + getting a power supply....not gonna happen anytime soon

[trim briar]

https://youtu.be/somRz2JT3_A?si=M9Fugu5s-RmvXVuN what effects and shit would yall use to get this tone?

I wanna make something close to it

[graceful socket]

without too much expertise, my go to would be to fry the shit out of my rhythm tone with fuzz pedals, maybe something like jst heat too, idk

[open fjord]

https://youtu.be/Ngg0s_1RMS4?

[open fjord]

https://youtu.be/epKukTElh14?

[plain vine]

The neighbours must love you :p

[rancid yew]

I love me :3

[open fjord]

https://youtu.be/mlpeCn4ER8k?

[open fjord]

https://youtu.be/-M3aCX66P6A?

[livid seal]

Chat, thoughts on these two models by Ruach Music. Are they kek or are they cringe?
https://ruach-music.com/product/ruach-revolt-electric-guitar-black-on-ash/?srsltid=AfmBOoqFIzhFPM7l76vom5mv8rdUul1yDtjVAXRTvtjU1z_VnkpS6qKR
https://ruach-music.com/product/ruach-skellig-bass-guitar-bury-tomorrow-custom/?srsltid=AfmBOoofifWfpppXgXmMYmGY9bpjOpDDbasx6nDUyuZO1zvTEv1LHAAi

[plain vine]

I dunno anything about bass, but the guitar looks kinda different (not my kinda thing though)

But I could see people liking it

[rancid yew]

Saw Eyehategod live and they all signed my amp. Took some pictures with Jimmy Bower, he even set the knobs on mine to how he'd use it and I marked each spot with marker haha. Went home and tried it with his settings and I now understand why I could feel his guitar tone in my bladder at the venue 😭

[nimble jungle]

I have 2 little Jäegermeister peavey amps one of which are signed buy a bunch of bands

I know Zakk is one of the signatures

Can’t remember who else

[rancid yew]

Nice 🙂

My only other signed musical equipment is my Ibanez Fat Cat and my DOD Death Metal FX86, both signed by Mortician

[open fjord]

https://youtu.be/7qOfGc_VmOs?

[coarse condor]

my new baby

a jackson dinky js32-8

first 8 string too

[dense token]

I can’t decide on which to buy, they both got basicly the same specs

[trim briar]

https://youtu.be/-FqVs6PNYmM?si=supyj-wrOEZcrO2D I kinda want one of these

[silver pewter]

guys does anyone have Explorer here? where does your Intonation screw head face - to the neck or to the stopbar?

[charred whale]

does anyone know someone either on youtube or something else that has good videos for playing better on guitar especialy if i want to go into metal metalcore etc ?

[silver pewter]

syn and papa gates has this: https://forums.synner.com/lessons/

did a good job for me back in the days
requires registration but i tought why tf not

[nimble jungle]

Rate the board?

[open fjord]

https://youtu.be/PJk1qcN0yJ0?

[ember laurel]

$300 kramer assault from marketplace.

[nimble jungle]

The boss ds1 makes such a good boost

[tawny monolith]

Has anyone got some good pick recommendations? I really like the Jim Root jazz3 plectrums rn but I feel like they slide out of my hand way too quickly. Is there any similar picks that have more grip?

[nimble jungle]

Tortex Flow 1.5s

[bronze mortar]

AAAAAAAAAA

[livid seal]

Sup, chat! Back at it again with some Kiesel Guitars builds (since I'm too broke to purchase a build of my own lol). Today, it's Northlane inspiration day! In order, the builds are inspired by: Josh Smith, Jon Deiley, and Brendon Padjasek.

Oh, and a miscellaneous Zeus Acoustic lol

[bronze mortar]

[nimble jungle]

Yuck

[nimble jungle]

The third one is so clean

Trading my CFH Dean ML for this sick C1 Plat

[livid seal]

Tysm!

Kiesel have yet to give their seven strings a baritone scale length like that, so the base six string baritone will have to suffice

Still tho, doesn't stack up to Jon's actual model, that shit is peak guitar

[odd coyote]

Nothing like a bit of Christmas reggae

[nimble jungle]

My dream guitar

There’s one at my local GC and I play it every time I go

[tribal vigil]

Oh thats hot

I want to get my hands on the thunderhorse

[rancid yew]

My mom's best friend's mom passed away. Went to visit her. Brought her some food me and my family cooked for Christmas and went there to support her and keep her company while she grieved. I completely forgot she collected guitars and her and her brother encouraged me to play some of their stuff. I didn't think anything of it. I spent a couple of hours just messing around and adding presets to their Fender Mustang GTX50. I played two guitars I adored. She asked me which was my favorite, I told her genuinely I couldn't pick. She then tells me they're both mine. I was in complete shock. I cried. I hugged her tight. Merry Christmas to me.

[trim briar]

is $144 annually worth it?

[balmy vortex]

No

[nimble jungle]

Trading my Dean MLS for C1 platinum

How we feel bout it

[tribal vigil]

Personally id keep the dean

I love mine

[nimble jungle]

Im not much of a pantera fan anymore

• i hate FR bridges

I have 3 other Deans though

[floral bobcat]

...do i have too many? Naah

[tribal vigil]

Whipped up some white pickup covers on my 3d printer

[tribal vigil]

Mmm emgs

I wanna get les claypools signatures for a bass im building

[nimble jungle]

they feel very snappy

[open fjord]

https://youtu.be/yV-XqXi2BhM?

[rancid yew]

Got straps for my guitars. Blues lawyer guitars evil girl Janis riffs

[fast fjord]

Demo with my legator 8 string tuned to drop E

[forest swan]

to Ernie Ball users what bass strings are good for Metalcore stuff

[rancid yew]

Went to visit my mom's friend again, I told her if she wanted the other two guitars she gave me back they were hers no questions asked. She said no. And she told me she had four more for me. I honestly don't know what to say. I now have a 2021 PRS SE Paul's Guitar, a 2021 Fender Player Plus Telecaster, a 2021 Fender Player Plus Stratocaster, a 2022 Fender Acoustasonic Telecaster, a 2023 Fender Gold Foil Jazzmaster, and a 2020 Gretsch G5622T Electromatic

[graceful socket]

Holy peak

[livid seal]

Merry belated Christmas and Happy New Years, CoreKids! Wanted to drop by and make some Kiesels on Charvels:

the Delos Headless is based on a vintage white So-Cal Style 1,
the baritone Solo is based on a white So-Cal Style 2,
and
the P-Bass is based on a sonic blue PJ IV.

-# this was posted a while ago, but some hardware colors got messed up and now here we are with a new post lol

[nimble jungle]

id kill for that Acoustasonic

i want one so bad

[rancid yew]

I got videos of all of them too :3

[nimble jungle]

The way you used it is FOUL 😭

i might save up for one

[rancid yew]

It's a great guitar haha

[slim hearth]

I have a fender squire sadly. It’s sucks.

[rancid yew]

I have a Squier Tele and I still love it. Somehow got all of my Telecasters for free

[slim hearth]

Well i could prob do some work on mine and make it a helluva lot better. Yours is dope!

[rancid yew]

Thank you 🙂

[nimble jungle]

FINALLY selling my 2 4x12s

Thank friggin god

[nimble jungle]

Now that I don’t have those giant 4x12s I have everything where I want it :3

Also @rancid yew there’s that peavey amp I was talking about

That is signed

[rancid yew]

Sick!

[rancid yew]

I see it

[nimble jungle]

From 2003

[final sky]

How often do ya'll change your strings?

[gleaming wing]

My lawyer has advised me against answering that question

[nimble jungle]

Every 2-3 months or sooner depending how much I’ve played a guitar

Or if they loose their shine ig

[rancid yew]

Whenever they rust/snap tbh 😭, usually a couple of weeks

[nimble jungle]

I want another Harley Benton so bad but the Tariff prices are ridiculous

I paid almost half the price of my last HB just in tariffs

[final sky]

Totally didn't just change my strings for the first time in a little over a year

[graceful socket]

Oh yeah, changing strings....the thing you're supposed to do with your guitars when you play them a bunch....the thing with the changing the strings thing....that thing....what was I talking about?

[slim hearth]

Love the 8 string

[nimble jungle]

I want to love it more but it came setup poorly

[slim hearth]

Have a luthier fix it

[nimble jungle]

Yeah I just haven’t gotten the time

[slim hearth]

Well plus luthiers can be expensive ya know

[nimble jungle]

That too

In other news I got a Ibanez tube screamer

[slim hearth]

How does that sound? Been wanting to buy me one

[nimble jungle]

Tight

If you’re using it in a metal setting

[slim hearth]

Don’t you have to add a distortion pedal

[nimble jungle]

Not necessarily

It pairs well with a DS-1

[slim hearth]

Would it pair well with the hm300

[nimble jungle]

I have no idea

I don’t have one

I can tell you if you’ve listened to any BFMV or Machine Head album you’ve heard an Ibanez Tube screamer

If I’m not mistaken Matt Tuck uses 2

[slim hearth]

Oh ok I mainly listen to deathcore, I heard Adam de micco from Lorna shore has one?

[nimble jungle]

Maybe

I don’t pay attention a lot of modern deathcore

Whitechapel, ABRB, Carnifex, Suicide Silence, JFAC are really the only deathcore bands I pay attention to

[slim hearth]

Those are al really good tho

[rancid yew]

Took a year to ship but it's finally here. My 124th pedal!

[forest swan]

where do you guys get your tabs from

I've been trying to find bass tabs for a Like Moths To Flames song and they just don't exist I guess

[nimble jungle]

Songsterr/YouTube

[nimble jungle]

Trivium?

[forest swan]

?

[nimble jungle]

oh

i thought you were talking about the song lmao

read it wrong]

[plain vine]

There’s tabs on songsterr, ultimate guitar and youtube, but there’s also official tab books on sheet happens if you’re willing to spend money.

[nimble jungle]

Sheet Happens is the most accurate tho

[plain vine]

Yeah, I’m pretty sure they work with the artists to make sure tabs are accurate, unlike songsterr etc where it’s all just user uploaded.

[nimble jungle]

thats why i learn from YT aswell

did that for a handfull of BFMV songs

[forest swan]

Good to know, I should’ve said that songster doesn’t have any bass tabs for LMTF’s song the Worst In Me

I looked for a good minute

[trim briar]

I wanna get a 70’s gibson V shape guitar in white but dont want to pay the gibby or epi price for one, any companies make good clones that are actually playable that can be semi easily be acquired for an American

$500 is like the max

[nimble jungle]

I don’t think you’ll have much luck there unfortunately

Used Dean Vs tend to stay under $800 I believe

[robust hatch]

https://open.spotify.com/album/3DZThtXzTizbnxfjqQ9adD?si=X_pbkb13RyKGPF1haZSFJg

My new release

[open fjord]

https://youtu.be/J4Kbg-BILKU?

[slim hearth]

Who knew slapping some deathmetal stickers on a boring guitar would make it this much better

[charred whale]

Any tips on like how to play to drums / create drums for guitar melody or what so ever i have this thing where i like drums but cant find anything to play that fit and vice versa

[nimble jungle]

I don’t put stickers on my guitar often unless I know they’ll last

[graceful socket]

Take a close listen to some songs you like and how the drums work, that mostly helped me to get an understanding. Watching it done by people writing stuff like Nick Broomhall or Randy Belcufine too.

For the most basic rhythm stuff, align kicks with the bass notes, have a stack or cymbal play the quarter notes for groove and place a snare for accents to get started with a simple groove. From there you can expand. It's really something you gotta learn, and I really am just starting to do so myself too sp yeah

[nimble jungle]

I’m gonna go for this guitar soon

Might throw EMGs in

[rancid yew]

Matching straps acquired with the gf today

Sorry random moth picture got thrown in 😭

[nimble jungle]

It car today

https://tenor.com/view/fnaf-security-breach-glamrock-security-breach-roxy-roxanne-gif-23652125

[rancid yew]

New strap day 2nd day in a row

[plain vine]

That flower one looks crazy

[rancid yew]

Indeed it does! I love it :3

[trim briar]

Shite I have a dilemma, the Arctic Metal Phoenix is everything I’ve ever wanted from a guitar but I also want a BFG 7 since I want to get into 7 strings

[hexed igloo]

ngd

now i just need a guitar with a floyd and a jazzmaster

and more pedals

and an amp

but that stuff can wait for now

[hexed igloo]

first ever real ESP, one of the Sugizo Eclipse models

heavily modded with stainless steel frets, a more modern feel 6pt trem instead of the strat style he uses, bkp stockholm/supermassive instead of his sd p90 custom shop set and a 5-way + neck on/off instead of a 3-way + middle on/off

[rancid yew]

This is so beautiful

[simple garnet]

sloppy near the end cuz i just started learning it

[slim hearth]

That’s fire

Does anyone have an opinion on this guitar

[slim hearth]

You know it’s good when the strings begin to rattle

[rancid yew]

My band's 2nd album was almost entirely recorded on one of those haha

[slim hearth]

Awesome! I hear you should probably change the pickups but how do they sound?

I haven’t played my guitar yet, it needs strings 😂

Also guys, I wanna ask: does a deathcore band absolutely NEED a bass, or can I get away with making good music without it:)

[rancid yew]

Never had issues with them. I'm not picky with pickups, as long as they aren't microphonic they're usually usable lmao

@slim hearth https://youtu.be/_SWsIbw1Ceg?si=vXBmL0yik0H5DXif

This was with the stock pickups

[rancid yew]

Bass makes everything better

[slim hearth]

Ofc, especially with slam

Or just especially with everything 😂

[gleaming wing]

My Bassist has advised me not to answer this question

[slim hearth]

https://tenor.com/view/bass-kitty-cat-playing-bass-pet-gif-17601567

[open fjord]

https://youtu.be/QXFkNClIbp0?

And for my bass players

ooh Amos sig https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEzpCmtwVyY

[open fjord]

https://youtu.be/0ZIgUBCQzaM?

[plain vine]

New pedal day

Now my amp actually sounds decent doing cleans (it has the shittest built in reverb)

[coarse tulip]

Given the storm incoming, I may end up losing power and heat. What should I do to my guitars so they don’t have any issues? Is just putting them in their bags/cases enough?

[open fjord]

https://youtu.be/UuryeeHi6Tg?

[slim hearth]

I mean, your electrics should be fine. TBH. But if you can, try to get some kind of small heater to help with them, ESPECIALLY if you have acoustics. That’s just what I would personally do:) good luck bro

[slim hearth]

That’s tuff

[plain vine]

I also got another new pedal today

[slim hearth]

YOOOO did you write that?!!!

And is it that big one right there? The red one???

[plain vine]

Nah, that's Stranded by Gojira (although I think I'm a little bit off time)

[coarse tulip]

I don't have acoustics, thankfully, but I'm terrified of losing power, which potentially means no heat.

[slim hearth]

Aye okay, still need to check out gojira tbh

[plain vine]

You should, they go hard and sound heavy as for a band that mostly plays in d standard

[slim hearth]

Aye ok, no heat is buns. Here’s to not losing heat 🍻

[slim hearth]

they play in d standard???!

aren’t they like french metalcore or sum

[plain vine]

Ye

[slim hearth]

That’s crazy bro

And they’re all six strings and everything

[plain vine]

yup

[bronze mortar]

This tone is like identical to the original

[plain vine]

Tbh, I don't know much about tone. I'm using a 5150 iconic combo and gojira I'm pretty sure use a 5150 III, so similar high gain amps

[bronze mortar]

It sounds cool regardless

[plain vine]

Pedal is fun

[charred whale]

Any ideas how to fit 68 gauge string in locking tuner it's just too thick

[plain vine]

I can’t fit more than 64 gauge in my tuners. Only 2 ways to go about it. 1. Get tuners with bigger holes, 2. Drill the holes bigger with a drill.
Although obviously buying new tuners requires money and drilling bigger holes can weaken the existing tuners. (Have heard also that you can unwind strings but I dunno)

I chose method 4 and just use 64 gauge (biggest I can fit :p )

[charred whale]

i chose to drill and its cool in drop f#

i did also file a bit after so it doesnt cut string

[robust hatch]

https://open.spotify.com/album/1pAOZz0toYdCdz5tNaXVI5?si=u2pX2GeWS4iC7U-lQ2YpIA

[crisp swan]

Any feedback on my tone? I feel like it's almost there but needs some extra polishing

[bronze mortar]

Sounds great

[crisp swan]

what about the riff? I took a big break from metal to make more EDM so rusty getting back into it

[bronze mortar]

Maybe a bit slow but still good

[crisp swan]

yeah gonna try making it a bit faster

[latent geyser]

Just got the Neural Dsp QC, anyone got recommendations on getting started on this alien device?

[open fjord]

https://youtu.be/nr3JNB6F4GI?

[robust hatch]

https://youtube.com/shorts/OrzI-Z_XARc

[open fjord]

https://youtu.be/FxkDBm5FA2k?

[last snow]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ueCO4spGNPs This belongs here, I suppose

[nimble jungle]

I’d love to add one but my board wouldn’t allow

I’d probably get one for strictly studio use though

[plain vine]

It’s really fun though

[nimble jungle]

yeahhh i just dont have the space on it lol

[plain vine]

Fair enough… you could probably fit one next to your pedal board (i don’t own a pedalboard but the pedal is at least double the size of the other pedals I own so maybe…)

[trim briar]

https://youtu.be/SrD6WIKweSg?si=XU3ch34jexrv5ap3 is this what heaven sounds like?

[nimble jungle]

This is what mine looks like atm

I lied actually

The cords are not super messy anymore

[jade bronze]

hi, so recently i got a new 7 string guitar (headless, 25.5” - 26.5” multiscale) and i’m really struggling to get a decent “djenty” guitar tone (my focus is modern metalcore/thall).
however i have a single coil strat, which i have been playing ever since before i got my 7 string, and it ironically got a Way more decent guitar tone (except for the hum) for what im aiming to play, and i wanna get my 7 string to sound as close as my strat, but i noticed very drastic differences in tone between them on same notes and strings, not only on the DI but acoustically too, and because of that i don’t think that the stock pickups (which are passive alnico V) are really the biggest problem here, but the strings are (correct me if i’m wrong).
i have two test recordings of me playing a simple riff on both my strat and my 7 string with the exact same signal chain (digital pitch shifter > archetype gojira with OD on, drive 0, tone & volume cranked up) pitchshifted in F# standard (note that the strat is -10 st while the other is -5 st) and another two clips of me playing the 6th E string on both guitars recording the acoustic sound (guitars unplugged)
how much will changing strings help me get a closer tone to my strat? also is there anything else i could do? (besides changing pickups, im broke)
any help is appreciated, also sorry for the long text

i forgot the audios im stupid hold on

[graceful socket]

The difference from the unplugged version is mostly just related to the age of the strings and also the fact that you have your guitars tuned differently; so that´s just fine. The difference is mainly in pickups which you just need to work around and figure out where the sweetspot for your new guitar lies.

Regarding your tone, your 7 string pickups pack more heat (also on account of them being humbuckers), so cutting out some of the disruptive frequencies will already clear it up quite a bit. You´re going for djent, so you´ll want it pretty cleaned up and polished. Make a high end cut in the EQ, maybe some more noise control in the 5-7k hz area maybe? Place an EQ, listen to what you filter out and find the noise.
The other difference is mostly in how pronounced your low end is. Try to boost low to mid a bit more, gotta try around whether that´s best to do with amp, pre-amp or in EQ, just try around a little.

Wish I could offer up more but all my current tones are mostly thallAmp of Nameless, havent used Gojira in a while but being a normal 5150 sim it should work more than fine for it

[jade bronze]

thx for the reply, but if im not wrong i already did try something like that with EQ, also tried to mess around with it a bit, but it didn't seem to get any closer to what im aiming to..
also tried messing around with some effects before the amp, cabinets, etc, but to no avail
if i changed the current strings (.009-.054, probably nickel i dont know) to something like .010-.062 ernie ball cobalt (for drop A), how much would it affect the tone?
im kinda new to the technical aspects of instruments like guitar so i wanna ask before doing anything

[graceful socket]

New strings are always gonna make your guitar sound cleaner, more defined and clear simply because they're not worn out yet.

You should know that no matter what, two guitars are never gonna sound the exact same unless it's the same pickup in the same setup and everything. At the end of the day dont try to make one guitar sound like another but use your different guitars for different purposes. Especially with something like this

You know what you want, you want a djent-y tone. That's something you can work with, maybe try building a tone from scratch and make adjustments along the way to accomodate your new guitar for the sound you want. Certainly easier than reworking an old one to suit it

[jade bronze]

well i'll see what i can do, though i'm kinda afraid that i got the "wrong" guitar for what im aiming to play
but anyways, thank you so much for the help and clarifying some things up :)
this is the guitar btw (brazillian brand)

[charred whale]

From what would you recommend to learn like more technique playing like till now I was playing part of songs I like mostly rhythm ones

[verbal fossil]

POV you just got a 29" baritone guitar you instantly proceeded to tune to drop E

btw this is with all the pickup positions

[nimble jungle]

Guys I have to admit something

I don’t think the guitar tone on Daylight Dies is very good :(
(imo)

I see a lot of praise for it but I don’t get it

They used Mesa Dual Recs didn’t they?

[rancid yew]

Imo Mesas are almost as overrated as Dumbles and Klons

Every Mesa I've plugged straight into has been a disappointment. Either needs extreme boosting to not be flabby as hell or you need a PHD to dial them in 🤣

[nimble jungle]

Yeah

When dialed in with a boost and 10 band it does sound goated tho

[rancid yew]

The two worst were a Dual Rec Multiwatt and Fillmore. Worst amps I've ever played in my life. My little 10 watt Gorilla sounds better

[rancid yew]

I'd rather pay 1/3rd of the price for an amp that doesn't need that much tweaking. 5150 for the win

[nimble jungle]

I’m a 5150/6505 meat rider tho so maybe its just me

[rancid yew]

Tbh I don't even have a 5150 but I haven't been able to make them sound bad. I've tried several EVH ones and a Peavey 5150 II

[nimble jungle]

Ah I just read this lmao

Clayman is the metal tone imo

[rancid yew]

I also love Peavey's Ultra Plus 120s. Tried one once. Fucking ruled

[nimble jungle]

I want a triple X so bad

[rancid yew]

I have 38 amps but my highest gain ones are my Crate G600XL, Ampeg SS-140C, and Soldano SLO 30 mini

[rancid yew]

Tbh I want an XXL more than an XXX

Like a Bandit on steroids

[nimble jungle]

Literally

Peavey seems to be very unrecognized nowadays

Some of the best amps I’ve ever heard

[rancid yew]

I have my fair share of Peavey stuff but my favorite is my 1980 Bandit. First year of production with an Eminence squareback instead of a Scorpion. I'd probably like my Mark III Musician more if it worked right haha

My 1980 Bandit is like a sludge machine. Great clean tones too. When boosted it can get some crazy grind to it

It's the first version before they started adding to the gain

[nimble jungle]

Gnarly

I will say Mesa cleans are really pretty

[rancid yew]

A lot of their stuff flies under the radar. Bandits, XXLs, XXXs, JSXs, 3120s, Supremes, Triumphs, VTMs, Butchers

[nimble jungle]

I do wanna add that triple X and 6505 || to my collection

[rancid yew]

I really want one of the early VTM/Butcher 4x12s with G12K-85s

[nimble jungle]

I LOVE the cab I have

[rancid yew]

Fender's MH412s go for next to nothing and have G12K-100s which are the same speaker

[rancid yew]

I love all of my cabs tbh

I just did a song micing up one of my Ampeg's EVM 12Ls and then also having it going to my old Sound City 6x10, also miced

Near 40 year old amp but I didn't even need a boost. Handled my 8 string like a champ

[nimble jungle]

Celestion Greenbacks are so nice

[rancid yew]

I wanted to put a 10" Creamback in my Marshall Lead 12. Stock G10D-25 is way too treble heavy for an already treble heavy amp

[nimble jungle]

Rip

[rancid yew]

Also the single worst thing about Mesas is how they're designed. Most techs won't touch them. Overengineered garbage. They couldn't make an amp right the first time so they keep having to revise them fixing previous problems and creating future ones

[nimble jungle]

Didn’t they do a re release of the two channel?

[rancid yew]

They rerelease everything 😭, 5 million different revisions lmfao

[nimble jungle]

mmmgulp

I forget how many metal amps truly exist

I know about Peavey, EVH, Mesa and Engel but I honestly forget about the others

Kinda the Big four in my eyes

Oh and the JCM800 ig

Also I straight don’t really like the JCM800

And Engel powerball would be cool to own

[rancid yew]

Depends on the metal. Mesa, EVH, Peavey, ENGL, Soldano, Marshall, even Sunn had some damn good metal amps. Fender did too later on

[rancid yew]

They aren't high gain. They need a boost to get into that sort of territory

[nimble jungle]

Thats why

[rancid yew]

By themselves they're more like ACDC levels of gain. Mid gain crunch

[nimble jungle]

Yup

[rancid yew]

The issue with most Mesas isn't that they aren't gainy enough. It's that they're so flubby in the low end it needs to be cut out. That's why everyone boosts them

I mean it's less of an issue if you're in E standard

[nimble jungle]

Yes yess

[rancid yew]

I play in super low fucking tunings. I need lots of mids and tight lows

In E you can get away with somewhat bassier tones. Even lower. Eb, D.

[nimble jungle]

I want to love the triple rec desperately

[nimble jungle]

I don’t have a single guitar in E or Eb standard lol

[rancid yew]

I mean the lowest I've tuned a guitar to in a song is G#0

Usually I keep that one in B0

[nimble jungle]

G standard for me

I’m lying actually

I almost forgot about my 8 string lol

Drop E

[rancid yew]

My 8 string tuning is usually BF#BF#BFF#B but for a new track I did G#F#BF#BFF#B

[nimble jungle]

lemmie hear what that sounds like lowk

[rancid yew]

@nimble jungle https://87angst.bandcamp.com/track/the-ground-floor-2

https://87angst.bandcamp.com/track/gundesvermin

[nimble jungle]

woah

[rancid yew]

Bass full octave down because fuck it that's why

[nimble jungle]

Thats too much bass for me

[rancid yew]

No pitch shifting other than up 2 octaves momentarily for the panic slides on Gundesvermin 🤣

[nimble jungle]

its actually giving me a headache im so srry

Thats low tho

damnn

[rancid yew]

B-1 and G#-1 respectively

Can't have sludge metal without insane low end

[nimble jungle]

i suppose

[rancid yew]

Me and my buddy wanted to do things Admiral Angry style but filthier

[nimble jungle]

Idk if i wanna go drop B or A# on my C1 next time i restring

[rancid yew]

https://youtu.be/YsF4YjodSSw?si=ry3U8XJcPwvIQyC8

[rancid yew]

New amp day! 1999 Crate GX-212, traded my 2002 Fender Bassman 100 for it and also got $80 with the amp for the Bassman 🙂

[odd coyote]

Wrote this, idk I feel like the tail of the riff could be better or a continuation before the tail of it. Any ideas?

[nimble jungle]

Gng I have that same hoodie

Also banger riff

[nimble jungle]

Oml I’m craving the guitar tone on Whoracle and Clayman tonight

[odd coyote]

Love that from you

I just woke up to go to work LMFAO

[nimble jungle]

I wanted to get it in XL but it sold so I quickly bought the Large

Which fits better than I thought it would

[odd coyote]

I am a medium myself

Large is more comfy tho tbf

[nimble jungle]

Fr

Dude I love your entire profile

I need to listen to TAA more

[odd coyote]

They r so good

I’m seeing em live later in the year alrdy booked the concert

I got MIW, Dayseeker and MTS this Saturday

MMF, FFAK and 156/silence in march

[nimble jungle]

Lucky motherfucker oml 😭😭

I wanna see FFAK so bad

[odd coyote]

That’s the London advantage fr

[nimble jungle]

I did some FFAK inspired art for a class a few years ago

I saw MIW, Atrayu, INK and BVB a few years ago

[odd coyote]

Sick

BVB I’m so jealous

I love em sm

[nimble jungle]

Came for MIW left loving BVB much more

[odd coyote]

Fair

I’m defo gonna learn that Knives and Pens riff

Love it sm

[charred whale]

I have been wondering since I don't have a comparison cuz I play on superstrat what shape is most comfortable for you guys because I wanna get one more guitar with shorter neck and I kinda wanted lp/Gibson shape what do you think

[odd coyote]

Honestly, I have a Gibson and a schecter which I think is a super strat shape and I rlly don’t mind either

I’m not fussed icl

[nimble jungle]

ML or Explorer

[hard ivy]

not bad, i would see this in a song

[odd coyote]

Like i wanna write further to complete it

I just have no idea of

What to do lmfao

[hard ivy]

is it metalcore?

[odd coyote]

I’m just a riff merchant but I’d love to write a full song

[odd coyote]

Well I’d identify it as that

wbu?

[hard ivy]

once i get my guitar, i can help you, cause i need some practice with metalcore

[odd coyote]

It’s also in a very experimental tuning cos it’s a step above E standard

[hard ivy]

whoa

[odd coyote]

yeah

[hard ivy]

thats unique

[odd coyote]

I was like I always go lower

Let’s try a bit higher so ye

[hard ivy]

thrashcore

lol

[odd coyote]

I played it in C# and Drop C and Drop B but idk

It just sounds better there for me

[hard ivy]

yeah my main is drop c for lIFE

[odd coyote]

I love Drop A# but this guitar doesn’t hold it well

[hard ivy]

ur guitar is nice, at least its not broken lol

im getting a new one this week sometime

if u want to learn metalcore recommand this guy https://www.youtube.com/@metalcoremastery

[odd coyote]

Yeah I legit. Had a half day at college once, got bored, went to a guitar place, played it, bought it

💀

[hard ivy]

lol

[odd coyote]

but yeah honestly

The hardest part of that riff is the ending with those slightly stretched chords

cos of the tempo changing that quickly wasn’t easy

[hard ivy]

yeah i cant do chords with my monkey brain

[odd coyote]

LMFAO

[hard ivy]

i like solos and riffs, lead guy

[odd coyote]

I can not do leads

To save my life

💀

[hard ivy]

its very easy, just get some chords and use scales or whatever(theory is for losers, jk)

[odd coyote]

Yeah

I’ve just kinda

Self taught myself

[hard ivy]

solos are what im good at

same

[odd coyote]

I wish 💀

[hard ivy]

just practice, im not even a year into guitar

[odd coyote]

And u can do solos damn

I’ve played for a couple years now

[hard ivy]

its just i never went into learning songs, i just write my own shit, mind my lanuage lol

[odd coyote]

But yeah that’s my 6 and 7 string

[hard ivy]

also i came from a family with two drummers

[odd coyote]

I am the only metalhead in my family

lol

[hard ivy]

my dad and i is the only ones

older brother to soft to listen to meta;

[odd coyote]

my family is all abt R&B and pop lol

then u have me who listens to shadow of intent and heavier hands 💀

I remember showing em the migrant by SOI they just looked at me like ???

[hard ivy]

my dad has like 18+ hours on his metal playlist

[odd coyote]

I haven’t completed it yet but this is my longest

This bit of it is like my most played

[hard ivy]

my own sumemr is so good

[odd coyote]

Yeah it’s fun to play

[hard ivy]

https://open.spotify.com/playlist/6TrnGdDBf4YUiVH7u9ehSU

i have two metal playlist, someties i like just metal core so

[odd coyote]

Two weeks and like light to flies

Make my arm wanna die

[hard ivy]

i saw as i lay dying, my friend your an actual goat

[odd coyote]

I love KSE they were my gateway to core

[hard ivy]

real

[odd coyote]

This fire + This is goodbye are probs my fav by em

[hard ivy]

bullet is soild too

[odd coyote]

Saw em live with trivium and orbit culture last year

[hard ivy]

i love 578 by nic

[odd coyote]

Yeah it acc goes so hard

[hard ivy]

the vocals and guitar are god like

[odd coyote]

one of my fav riffs was the spirit box post chorus part it’s actually so underrated

when he did a how to spirit box

[hard ivy]

this band post one ep and just diped https://open.spotify.com/album/64gelZ5Uqj4AASKDhhdoz6

they are like a metalcore death metal type hybird

[odd coyote]

Oh nice

but yeah someone commented my riff gave of a 115 vibe

[hard ivy]

yeah i wish they made more, the singer's voice is soo good for clean and growls

[odd coyote]

And someone else said spirit crusher by death but I think the riff sequence is similar just played differently and in a different tuning

[hard ivy]

im so glad nick came back to yt

[odd coyote]

Same

[hard ivy]

lowkey he makes my day btter

[odd coyote]

I’ve watched his top riffs videos so often

[hard ivy]

better

[odd coyote]

the one riff I’d die to know how to play is meddler by ABR

but man 💀

[hard ivy]

i come back to best metalcore riffs, i like metalcore too much

i also like jazz, weird coming from a metal head

[odd coyote]

jazz is techy af

[hard ivy]

just use blues scale and natural minor

and just use notes outside of the scales

[odd coyote]

Ye

I love harmonic minor and Phrygian dominant

the classic 5-6 then 4-5-7-8

[hard ivy]

once i do get my new guitar, would you teach me how to make them chords, idk how to do rhythem guitar lol

[odd coyote]

Yeah ofc

[hard ivy]

i sent u a friend request

[odd coyote]

I wasn’t a chord guy till I was like I felt like my riffs were too boring

[hard ivy]

yeah

i can teach u lead

ngl ur a w guitarist, really good so far

[odd coyote]

This is straight nu metal right here

[hard ivy]

awesome

try leads, i dare you

metalcore leads

using natural minor

[odd coyote]

Oh lord

[hard ivy]

just try,

[odd coyote]

there’s one song I think

Thirty and seven by August burns Red

I can play a certain part idk if it counts as lead

but the bit after is just

;-;

Ima find it

[hard ivy]

AUguST BUrns REd is sooooo good

[odd coyote]

I love em

Paramount is an insane song

[hard ivy]

marinas tretch is such a classic

try learning that

man i didnt know metalcore has such emotional intros

[odd coyote]

Yeah

This is a 7 string riff I wrote

[hard ivy]

made me shread a tear

[hard ivy]

death

[odd coyote]

It was all improv at the end I didn’t know wtf to do

💀

[hard ivy]

yeah ur actual really good

alt metal

[odd coyote]

Tysm

[hard ivy]

ur welcome

sadly i dont have anything to show cause i couldnt record and my amp is a living dumper fire

[odd coyote]

I Uhm

I record from phone for now but

I got 2 OD pedals + a noise gate on a 5150 EVH amp 💀

[hard ivy]

i have no pedals

im gonna use a virtual amp once i do get my guitar

i can record now since i have a usb audio interface

[odd coyote]

This one is also rlly nice. The chorus is peak icl

[hard ivy]

i cant sweep pick or crazy fast solos, i like it some what fast and slow

[odd coyote]

I can’t sweep either

idk how

[hard ivy]

yo thats peak

i gotta go eat brb

if u have anything to show, dm me

u have skill to solo

bye

[odd coyote]

Cya lad

Enjoy ur food*

[nimble jungle]

Rookie numbers lol

This is the playlist I’ve been listening to lately

This is my main one

Does anyone else main a 6505(+) ?

(With something other than V30’s)

Also I need tips on learning music

I know I’m very capable of learning many songs but I just can’t keep myself focused and revert back to songs I already know

I can’t seem to figure what’s holding me back

The Guillotine by ETF and Zackys lil chromatic run in Beast and The Harlot aren’t necessarily difficult as they both indulge techniques I can already play

[charred whale]

I started like year ago learning guitar and music overall and I enjoy learning parts like for start in my opinion learning whole songs take too much time while in that I can learn something like better technique do I just treat it like motivation for it

Even songs I know how to play I still play them just to motivate myself kind of

[odd coyote]

i rlly wanna get a guitar that doesnt have fishmans on it for my next on it. ive got 2 with em a 6 and 7 string (dont say 67 istg) i've got like a price range up to 1300-1500 and i'd love a V or like a diff shape compared to a les paul and super strat

any recommendations ideally ESP, Jackson, Ibanez. ive got gibson and schecters alrdy :3

and interms of music i'd like this one to be like for maybe lowest Drop A 6 string as my other 6 covers E standard to Drop C-Drop C sharp fine

[nimble jungle]

the ESP arrows are pretty good

Corey of Trivium has signature jackson king V

almost 5k tho

[odd coyote]

uhm...

uhm

that might be out my price range

[nimble jungle]

yeah lol

[balmy vortex]

esp ltd arrow

[odd coyote]

This riff hurt

[odd coyote]

And learning insurrection hurts more

[plain vine]

I love this riff

[keen light]

I'll just share this one. Up to this day it's my MVP tool

[hard ivy]

is this riff good

[hard ivy]

awesome

[hard ivy]

something i wrote

[charred whale]

Shiny as my balls

[odd coyote]

U may recognise one maybe two of the riffs.

[charred whale]

i heard two of them but idk where tho

[odd coyote]

one is Death of Me - Asking Alexndria, the other is Break the Cycle - For Today

except after the for today one i got bored and started riffin

[harsh fern]

uh just a quick question, would a Drop A bass sound good transposed -2 st down? cuz finding an affordable 37" is not happening by the looks of things..

[hard ivy]

parkway drive?

something im working on

[balmy vortex]

New fiddle

[plain vine]

Pwettyyyyy 🤤

[balmy vortex]

very pretty

[hard ivy]

whoa

[vocal bloom]

the collections

horizon devices precision drive going into a boss metal zone gives you some of the most gnarly tones ever, it was a treat to discover that combo

same with the abasi pathos going into the metal zone, but not as good overall, still super awesome tones though and different than your usual

[odd coyote]

We do fun metal things sometimes

[nimble jungle]

The Decimator is peak 🔥

Honestly the best pedal I own

I will say unique amp choices

The catalyst to me is a worse version of a Boss Katana imo

I’m dead set on pedals atp

I might up to a 10 band EQ and I do want the 15w 5150 iconic

But if I ever decide against it I’d be fine

[nimble jungle]

(The EL34 one)

[plain vine]

I got one of those, but 6l6 tube

[vocal bloom]

i had the boss katana mk2 50w first, i sold it to a local guy to get the catalyst 60w, i would not go back to the katana personally

it’s far better, i’d reverse your statement and say that the boss katana is just a worse catalyst ngl, and i used both of their computer apps for modeling as well, catalyst just does the job better tbh

i played on a boss katana for multiple years around since when it first came out, then getting the catalyst was a breath of fresh air, it’s 100% an upgrade with its features and sound quality, and i haven’t even had it as long as my katana overall, it sounds amazing and much smoother, handles distorted tones wayyy better too

my tones and the speaker quality are both infinitely better, it’s also a much better for tone shaping and using as a pedal platform as well, just an overall higher quality amp, definitely worth it imo

[vocal bloom]

the decimator is needed for all metal guitarists especially if you are using heavy distortion

one of my favorites

[odd coyote]

How much does it cost

I rlly want one myself

[vocal bloom]

the one i got was like $80-100

i forget

[odd coyote]

… that’s so cheap ones here r like £160…

unless u got it second hand

[vocal bloom]

but it’s the best noise reduction pedal made

it is awesome and helps with sm

no fuzzy background noise or string scrapes

very nice

[odd coyote]

Yeah

I needa get one

I have a mic to record my guitar but I’m not sure what software to use for recordings

[vocal bloom]

that’s probably the newish one, the decimator x

i only have the decimator 2

[odd coyote]

Oh yeah it is

[vocal bloom]

previous model

[odd coyote]

Fair

[vocal bloom]

it’s far better than the 2 so it’s worth it

[odd coyote]

Fair

I did just get paid so

Maybe maybe

I got an OD pedal and some noise reductor but

I wonder what other pedals I should get

And like I also need help organising it all LMFAO

[vocal bloom]

depends on the tones you want

i have atleast 1 pedal from some of my favorite guitarists

[odd coyote]

I mainly play metalcore nu metal n deathcore so ye

[vocal bloom]

the horizon devices precision drive

[odd coyote]

I have a TS808 pedal for my OD

[odd coyote]

What pedal is this like..

What does it do

[vocal bloom]

the attack knob and noise gate is so good

it makes things SUPER chuggy

[odd coyote]

And my amp is a EVH 5150 15W tube amp btw if that helps?

[vocal bloom]

i use a solid state, but it can also work well for tubes

[odd coyote]

Those r my guitars both got fishmans on em

[vocal bloom]

yeah with actives pickups, the precision drive will beef up your tone a lot

[odd coyote]

mine r actives i think

well they do both idk

?

[vocal bloom]

it will add a more metallic modern chugginess

[vocal bloom]

oops i meant active, my bad

[odd coyote]

And in terms of my mic for recording how like would u do placement for it

idk what software to use either lmfao cos I rlly wanna stop recording from my phone now lol

[vocal bloom]

i don’t have my amps mic’d so i’m unsure for that

[odd coyote]

oh fair

there’s one more question I got and it’s that on my 6 string I dunno why the 4th string (the 1st one that’s a diff material idk) always sounds off compared to the others

And Idky

Like octave chords don’t sounds nice and im jus like :C

[vocal bloom]

do you have a strobe tuner or just a regular one?

[odd coyote]

What’s that…

[vocal bloom]

much more accurate tuner

[odd coyote]

I mean it just sounded different even when I pluck the string

like the vibrations etc

idk if the string height is low or something? Idk

[vocal bloom]

is it buzzing/rattling?

when you hit the string

[odd coyote]

Lemme check now I’m home

[rancid yew]

Katana sucks compared to the Catalyst imo

Tried several versions of both. Every Catalyst sounded better than every Katana

[rancid yew]

The Catalyst can do decent high gain without pedals or using a computer program to modify it

The Katana has good clean, decent crunch, and then the "high gain" is just 80s at best without pedals or going into tone studio 😭

Sucks in the gain department without help. Unlike the Catalyst which nails everything, at least to me

Never owned either since I never really needed a modeling amp but if I had to have one. I'd pick a Catalyst over a Katana anyday

The first time I tried a Catalyst I was in a Guitar Center and decided to play a Schecter 9 string through it. I wasn't expecting much from it but it held up fucking awesome

[rancid yew]

For the mic, you either need an interface with a mic preamp or a mic preamp and interface. If it's dynamic it won't need phantom power, if it's a condenser mic, it'll need phantom power. Try experimenting with mic placement when recording. Software wise you only need a DAW. No need for amp or cab sims if you're micing an actual amp. Starting at the cone of the speaker (center), that will be the brightest tone. As you get farther from it your tone will get darker and sound less direct

Amps sound a lot different miced than they do in a room

[vocal bloom]

yuppers, i agree

[charred whale]

It might be shit but i just started learning like half year ago idk rly dont count these days constructive criticism is welcome
drum is free sample from sample focus i found it cool so i played to it

[fervent venture]

I want to get this

[odd coyote]

Thoughts on this? Tested it out in store today felt fuckin amazing. Ik it has a Floyd rose but idc cos it just felt phenomenal

[balmy vortex]

nothing wrong with a floyd rose lol

[balmy vortex]

pls dont

[fervent venture]

Why not

[balmy vortex]

pickups, kahler trem and control layout. plus that shit is kinda overpriced af

the multiscale will also be hugely uncomfortable

[fervent venture]

I like multiscales

[balmy vortex]

as someone who's had an extreme multiscale, you wont like that one

[fervent venture]

The control layout is on purpose and I love Kahlers.

[fervent venture]

Its a 25.5 to 26 in multizcale

[balmy vortex]

that doesnt look like 25.5 to 26

[fervent venture]

It just doesnt show up on the image

Cuz its a custom guitar builder

[balmy vortex]

i know it all too well these never represent the actual guitar you'll get. but for 5.5 thousand usd you can get so much better than that

[fervent venture]

I think I may have set it to 27 to 28 actually but thats still not bad

[fervent venture]

Ik but I cant really get the guitar I want

[balmy vortex]

that halo isnt much better either tbh

[fervent venture]

I want a standard bridge but multiscale neck

[balmy vortex]

so ormsby

[fervent venture]

Its hard to explain

[fervent venture]

I like the tx but not any of their other models

[balmy vortex]

there isnt gonna be much of a benefit of multiscale if you keep the bridge straight

[fervent venture]

Like this but less extreme

[fervent venture]

I find multiscales easier to play but not further up the neck. So I think it would be a great middle ground

[balmy vortex]

you can go pitch it to ormsby if you want, but i doubt any other builder would want that

[fervent venture]

Okay

[fervent venture]

Thx for the feedback tho

[balmy vortex]

its my job after all

[fervent venture]

Huh?

[balmy vortex]

i work in a high end guitar store

i've tried almost every guitar under the sun

[vocal bloom]

halo guitars are overrated and honestly a scam

just get a normal guitar that’s around $1.5k or more and it’s just as good

[balmy vortex]

ehh, debatable

[fervent venture]

Oh cool, so you do know ball

[vocal bloom]

unless you’re touring, doing live music, or an overall collector, you don’t need a $5k guitar

[balmy vortex]

I did get this a week or so ago

[fervent venture]

It is in fact for live shows

[vocal bloom]

there’s diminishing value after you hit like $2.5k on a guitar, it’s not gonna get much better or more utility

[balmy vortex]

i recommend anyone that plays guitar to have at least one expensive +3k guitar. cuz playing one in a store and owning one are 2 very different things

[fervent venture]

And I need a guitar that can do all the things I want to do in the studio when Im recording

[vocal bloom]

i’d say go for a $2k is guitar

you’re saving money and it’s just as high quality honestly

[fervent venture]

Ik

Im gonna buy other guitars

Like Im fs getting a hellraiser

And an esp f series cuz I like how they look

[vocal bloom]

i have a one of those $5000 gibson custom 1957 les pauls, they are NOT worth it, only worth it if you are a collector or genuinely a somewhat big touring band

expensive guitars are funny to me

[fervent venture]

Dude

They are les pauls

[vocal bloom]

i prefer my $1.4k fender jag, and $700 schecter demon to anything else i’ve played

these are my guitars

[fervent venture]

You said ur point of reference is based off of les pauls

I personally don't think highly of les pauls

[vocal bloom]

i’ve played more than just those ones, my dad has an EVH wolfgang and also a line 6 shuriken, they just don’t play good or have a higher quality feel, just feels like a fancy guitar with big price, nothing special

it’s more of a novelty item to own an expensive guitar rather than daily/tour playing imo

the amp, mics, and pedals are far more important to get a good sound for recording live than the guitar

i traded in my gojira joe duplantier telecaster for a cheaper guitar because what i found was just better and what more of what i was looking for

[fervent venture]

Hm

I put playability before sound and if I have to get a custom to get a guitar I enjoy playing so be it

Playing an instrument is meant to be fun

Thats the point of music

[vocal bloom]

you just have to search a lot more, visit shops in person, look at online reviews, compare specs with all your choices, watch videos on them, etc..
just don’t think high price = good for this
unless it’s got some wild modifications you really want i suppose

because for example, higher end epiphones are much better quality than lower end gibsons

i used to want a halo custom like 4 years ago and never saved up to buy it, because that’s more specs than i need for bedroom and recording as well as also almost 3x the price of an already great guitar that’ll do everything the same but cheaper

[fervent venture]

I do that already

[fervent venture]

So you have no frame of reference?

[vocal bloom]

if you have a good budget, i’d look at guitars between 1.5k and 3k

[fervent venture]

Not a wooden leg to stand on?

[fervent venture]

I am

Im not even gonna buy the guitar now

Its a far in the future thing

[vocal bloom]

i’ve seen enough videos on them that they’re just overpriced guitars, they would be worth like 2.5-3k anywhere else with the same specs, you could even buy and order it from separate resources and actually build it yourself and it’s gonna be cheaper i bet

[fervent venture]

My first order of business is upgrading my Dinky and getting a hellraiser

[balmy vortex]

gibson isnt worth it at 5k anyway

esp at 5k on the other hand is very much worth it

[vocal bloom]

all you really is locking pickups, an evertune bridge, and some good pickups

[balmy vortex]

ew evertune

evertune aint it chief

[vocal bloom]

the other stuff is just up to personal preference

[vocal bloom]

it’s only annoying to change strings, they’re great

[balmy vortex]

except you loose half the resonance in the guitar whenever you compare it to a regular hard tail version

[vocal bloom]

mine don’t really sound different

although i don’t play it much

[fervent venture]

I like evertunes on some guitars

[vocal bloom]

they’re very good for guitars with active pickups

the guitars with passive pickups sound better with hardtail

[balmy vortex]

yep big time

[nimble jungle]

Looks absolutely goated

I love the Rhoads shape

[odd coyote]

Same it’s beautiful

RR1A is gorgeous

felt weird getting used to it at first

But after 10 mins I was in love

Gotta save tho so ima buy it when I turn 21 as a self present

[gleaming wing]

My new baby

[bronze berry]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-oh-it's-beautiful-oh-its-beautiful-krennic-director-krennic-gif-16984087896100534933

[balmy vortex]

The fiddle

[rancid yew]

Went to Guitar Center for picks, left with two packs of Dunlop Sharps 0.88 and paid for this Line 6 POD HD500X as an early birthday present (can't pick it up until April)

[hexed igloo]

mesa are disgustingly good, you just need to dial back the bass a little

will update when it arrives but got a crazy good deal

ive been super disappointed with ibanez' indonesian models but i trust fujigen to make a good guitar

[nimble jungle]

to almost zero lol

Peavey will always be better imo

[hexed igloo]

very different sounds

mesas dont djent but peaveys dont get that bite or wall of sound

i think id say mesa, marshall, orange and then peavey in that order for me tbh

[rancid yew]

Every single one I've tried has just not held up compared to my other amps I paid several times less for

Also they're built like shit. No tech wants to service them

[rancid yew]

Agreed

[hexed igloo]

wont deny that last part

most of my favourite guitar tones tend to be mesa

Envy get sounds of telecasters and dual recs that nobody should ever be able to get out of that combo and i still dont know how

[rancid yew]

Meshuggah's Chaosphere is my favorite Mesa tone of all time. The bass and guitars were all Mesa

[hexed igloo]

Hybrid Theory also a solid contender for best rhythm tone ever

[nimble jungle]

Peaveys 100% have bite

[rancid yew]

I mean I tune so low that the EQ curve of Mesas just don't work in my favor at all

[hexed igloo]

yeah but its more upper mid vs the lower mid you get on a mesa

[hexed igloo]

this is where we differ

[nimble jungle]

Theres a reason they were the standard

[hexed igloo]

i have 4 guitars in standard atm

heaven in her arms just put out their first song with any downtuning whatsoever and thats the only reason i took my 8 string off sale lmao

[nimble jungle]

AND you dont need a tube screamer for it to sound tight

Mesas just dont sound good unboosted

[rancid yew]

Mesas don't need to be tight since most people just chuck a 6 string into them

In order to use my horrifically low tuned 8 I'd need something that just absolutely chops the bass going into the front end of the amp

A $5,000 amp shouldn't need help to sound good from the get go

[nimble jungle]

thats what im saying

[hexed igloo]

low tuned guitar into a mesa are fine imo. just don't expect to sound like spiritbox

[nimble jungle]

I mean when a Dual has a Tube screamer and an EQ n stuff it sounds tuff but when it doesnt it sounds meh yk

I tried a Mesa Boogie at GC once and i was very disappointed

no matter how i dialed it

[rancid yew]

I don't want to sound like Spiritbox and I sure don't want to pay $5,000 for an amp that still needs a boost to be usable 😭

I'm tuned lower than them anyways

[nimble jungle]

fr

[rancid yew]

My favorite guitar tones are Admiral Angry

[nimble jungle]

There are still Mesa tone i love though

[hexed igloo]

nah mesa doesn't need a boost at all

its best with the gain cranked and the master low imo

[rancid yew]

Maybe if you're in drop C. Not when you're more than an octave below that

[nimble jungle]

That sounds horrid tf???

[hexed igloo]

when i saw Gillian Carter they had a hollowbody running into a mesa with very few pedals and it sounded killer

[rancid yew]

The Marks don't need boosts but are super complicated to dial in. The Rectifiers absolutely fucking need a boost for anything lower than C 😭

[nimble jungle]

Ben Burnley is one of em

[rancid yew]

Yeah. I doubt he's tuned low at all

In E almost anything works

[nimble jungle]

thats the problem i live and die by C B and A#

[rancid yew]

As you get lower you need to cut more and more bass

[hexed igloo]

GC are a Drop A# band

[rancid yew]

And also... keyword... pedals

Not straight in

[hexed igloo]

and he has a digitech drop, im 90% some of the newest album goes all the way to Drop E but it could also be standard with an octave

[rancid yew]

Probably had a Tube Screamer or at least an EQ in there somewhere

[hexed igloo]

ig but everyone does

[rancid yew]

I don't. Because I don't play Mesas 🤣

[hexed igloo]

even most 5150 players have some sort of tube screamer or precision drive in there

i personally never use any amp without a boost or compressor at a minimum

[nimble jungle]

Tightness

a 5150 doesnt need it though