Guitars & Bass

[dry parrot]

and another underlooked thing i think for tonal differences between guitars is scale length/where the pickup falls in the body along the strings

[celest acorn]

yeah this makes a huge difference

[dry parrot]

for me straight swapping pickups has had a minor difference, changes output a bit, didnt do a back to back test but was disappointed when there wasnt a major shift

ive heard the tone cap has a big differences ill have to try playing around with those

[toxic wharf]

Thats just one component. The pick up itseldf already sounds different which has sort of a ripple effect

[gleaming wing]

Look at the Ibanez alt 30 FM. I got one of those recently and I really really like it

[celest acorn]

thats funky

[storm mulch]

I’ll check it out thanks for the recommendation

[open fjord]

https://youtu.be/hSOLdSN7HRk?si=g6ZCllgBlySncmoE

[wide fossil]

That is cursed

[gleaming wing]

It plays really nice tho

[lunar chasm]

Hey anyone know where I can find a cheap black or red melody maker with a humbucker? Or an easy mod platform?

Or a double cut Les Paul Junior?

[wind mauve]

terrible pic i know but my local guitar shop has this headless multiscale Ibanez bass

if I knew how to play bass even slightly

i woulda been rippin that thing in the shop

[dry parrot]

just play longview

[wind mauve]

i was thinking smoke on the water

the loophole is it's on bass

[dry parrot]

turns out my 7 string doesnt have shit pickups and im just bad

i mean they're not fishmans but they work fine

i just didnt know how to dial in a good tone

it ended up just being dial the bass way back

[storm mulch]

So I still need good recommendations for a acoustic

400-800 price range

At least for now

Idk maybe it’ll be 1000

[dire kayak]

im curious about what you guys think
do you prefer drop tunings, where the top 2 strings make a power chord
or standard tunings self explanitory but includes b,c,d standard

or a standarf

g standard seems stupid

[gleaming wing]

Depends on what I'm playing typically

If it's fast riff based stuff like metalcore or hardcore, drop tuning is easier and more fun. But for doing like soloing or more prog type stuff I like standard tuning better

[dire kayak]

do u guys ever forget how to play a guitar riff and u have to let muscle memory play it to remember where the notes are

[storm mulch]

For me I kinda have a idea where notes are but not memorized

I just go across the fretboard too the spot that feels right

[toxic wharf]

I write a fucking album
And I can't remember how to play it

Like if I give it a few tries maybe I remember but not Shure

[toxic wharf]

I mostly use drop
Now I'm playing Drop D but one octave lover
But I also have some tracks in standart tuning
sometimes I come up with a cool riff for a standard and record in it and sometimes in a drop

[wind mauve]

sometimes i forget and then half the demo is in A standard instead of Drop G

oops

https://tenor.com/view/shrek-reaction-really-gif-27425089

[toxic wharf]

Same

[wide fossil]

That and minor scales

578 goes hard and we all know that

[storm mulch]

Ofc 5-7-8 riffs for life

[toxic wharf]

I know notes but I don't know scales and other shit
So boyz
I have no brain but I have idea

[storm mulch]

Idk much bout scales

At most I just know g minor and harmonic minor and e minor

That’s it

Cause their kinda similar

[toxic wharf]

When people ask what key my song
I say
Every

[storm mulch]

I just say what’s a key?

[toxic wharf]

I said the same thing until I saw one shorts on YouTube

Now I know keys exist

[storm mulch]

4 years of guitar doesn’t know like more that 3 keys😭

I’m doomed

[toxic wharf]

just finished writing the track
and I fucking love it, probably my favorite or second favorite track written by me

[toxic wharf]

I've been playing guitar for about a year and haven't learned a single song. I'm just bored and start playing something of my own. But I decided that I had to fight this and so I enrolled in a music school.

They gonna fuck me up

[storm mulch]

Enjoy learning like 700 million obscure chords you wouldn’t know existed

😭

[toxic wharf]

and all for the sake of playing zeros

Djdjdjdjdjd

[storm mulch]

But all the things you could flex

You could flex that you know d# diminished 13b 7b 5b

Idk if that’s a chord

Probably is

[toxic wharf]

I just used some super weird time signatures in the track and it sounds like I’m very smart and it’s intended to be that way, but I have no idea what these signatures are

https://tenor.com/view/random-bullshit-go-moon-knight-random-random-bullshit-gif-25725102

Here it is

[storm mulch]

That mix might’ve blew out my studio speakers

That is so loud😭

[toxic wharf]

My tip: if you try to play in odd time signature, make sure you play tight.

[storm mulch]

Theirs definitely a 9 their

[toxic wharf]

That's unmixed

Mix is here

#1095992147968262144

[toxic wharf]

But yeah
Mix is loud

I do my Music on my smartphone 🤓

So mixing is shit

I'm saving up for a pc now

[storm mulch]

You can probably do it on a phone

You just need to get a interface or like

The lil like

Pluggy things

Fuck I forgot what their called

😭

Oh wait

Nvm interfaces

But you should save up for that pc

Definitely

[toxic wharf]

I'd still rather buy a computer and a sound card first
the quality of the recording will be better and the sound of the drums will be better

[storm mulch]

Yea

Ezdrummer for life🙏

[toxic wharf]

I recently wrote the first track with a new vocalist and had to work at about 10 FPS because the program was no longer working good

[storm mulch]

That

Is

Painful😭

[toxic wharf]

Yeah
But I like this song

[harsh fern]

etting a new guitar in like 2 weeks
gonna be my first 7 string, getting a solar, but im just debaring if imma get one with a whammy or not
what do yall think?

[gleaming wing]

Whammy is fun

Whammy makes tuning a nightmare

[inner bone]

Still better then writing 10 riffs and never be able to play them cuz there isnt any metalheads around you

[hoary vector]

If u plan on changing tunings alot then get a fixed

I plan to get a 7 string with a fixed bridge. Usually I'll have whammy for 6 string. But if I get a second 7 string I would get a whammy

[ebon relic]

This fucking string bro

I seriously pray that it doesn’t snap or come loose

[wide fossil]

4 years of guitar and I don’t know any keys

I just learn metal songs I like and play them 😭

[wide fossil]

If you downtune like everyone else here and change tunings a lot then it’s better not to

But honestly it won’t stop you from playing it will just mean you gotta pay more attention to the tuning coming out whenever your playing

[ebon relic]

My truss rod likes to grip the wrench

[cobalt sable]

Can someone tell me what that weird line on the wood is ?

[wind mauve]

any of y'all ever seen FM Guitars before

[storm mulch]

It’s either a sick ass pattern or something happened while making that guitar cause it’s a pretty consistent line

[storm mulch]

Holy

[inner bone]

Rate this riff

[graceful socket]

What in the djent is this

Y'all still pitch shifting? Nah dude, I'mma just have two guitars in one and tune each differently

[toxic wharf]

Sounds more like a song thats basically finishes. Sounds good to me

[dense vessel]

yeah

[balmy vortex]

its wood grain

[inner bone]

Like an ending track on an album?

[toxic wharf]

Just a song? Cant judge its place on an 'album' without hearing the album lol

[inner bone]

Nah there isn't any album I was just noodling around

[deft reef]

Love Schecter

[fair mural]

guys should i get the solar A2.6?

[runic heart]

If u got the money. I cant argument against it, cus i dont own it, bit normally solar makes quite good guitars

[fair mural]

been wanting it for awhile but idk i'm too scared lmao

[runic heart]

U got like a shop in ur surroundings where u can testplay it?

[runic heart]

If it plays well, and u can afford it, then why shouldnt you buy it?

[fair mural]

no 🥲

[runic heart]

Oh man

[fair mural]

i'm cooked 💀

[runic heart]

Where would you order it?

[fair mural]

i guess off the solar website

[runic heart]

Do they offer refunds?

[fair mural]

i have to check to see lol

[runic heart]

Well then check if they do, order it, and if smths wrong then send it back

[fair mural]

they don't have a return policy omg

[runic heart]

A fuck

[balmy vortex]

yes they do

https://support.solar-guitars.com/support/solutions/articles/80000944848-what-is-your-return-policy-

theyre legally obligated to have that

[celest acorn]

eu customers only tho

honestly the eu is the only governmental organizations that sides with customers

[fair mural]

i meant that they don't offer returns for me mb

[balmy vortex]

my condolences

[gritty garden]

It's just the wood grain

Trees be like that.

[balmy vortex]

indeed

[primal parrot]

i just got my IA tab book, so annoying when youvre learnt to the play the riffs the wrong way and have to relearn them

[toxic wharf]

So I just found a bass at a yard sale and it’s in pretty good shape, just needs a good cleaning and new strings, any string suggestions?

[balmy vortex]

any decent DR strings, 45-105

[gleaming wing]

Put it in B standard tuning

[toxic wharf]

It’s synsonic brand, I assume that’s the great value brand of bass’s?

I have no knowledge of bass sooo

Lmfao

[nimble jungle]

just bought new pre-amp tubes!!!

Ive needed too since January

[open fjord]

https://youtu.be/t4znSAHSQic?si=d8Q48qAKj56dscHY

[bronze garnet]

hello fellow wizards

new acoustic

[vapid axle]

Super messy but you get the idea

[toxic wharf]

Thats some trve cvlt back metal @vapid axle

[inner bone]

Elixir

[toxic wharf]

Bass tone in a new song

[vapid axle]

What the skibbidi

[open fjord]

https://youtu.be/wBhvdS_kGmg?si=ZZjIS6SjeFtnb_8f

[storm mulch]

Interesting

The chug sound isn’t really what I expected

Yet those cleans were pretty damn gorgeous

[lyric wren]

Hey, I need a favor, what small amp that have the distorted sound for my guitar?

[frosty gale]

Howdy, just bought this from someone yesterday

[balmy vortex]

@gritty garden since you like Slipknot

[gritty garden]

Ooo sparkly

Back to saving money though now after spending... £20K in the last month or so 🤣

[balmy vortex]

[balmy vortex]

It is the same one Mick Thomson is using rn we can get these quite easily

Esp original series Horizon-I titan metal

[gritty garden]

Yeah I can afford it easily... just I don't want to pull out of long term savings for it 🤣. Plus no room atm

[balmy vortex]

[balmy vortex]

When you do lemme know lol

[gritty garden]

Tbh I think if I get another guitar, it'll be a 7 string, as I have enough 6's atm 🤣

[balmy vortex]

Can help you there as well

[vapid axle]

Emmure cover

I’m aware my tone is ass

[storm mulch]

So anyone got some good acoustics

I’m tryna get into acoustics

[runic heart]

Na mate sry

[gritty garden]

Just go and try them out. You'd be surprised at the differences. I spent 4 hours trying them out from £3K guitars down to £100 guitars. In the end the one that sounded the best to me was a £340 Yamaha.

[storm mulch]

So the average guitar store trip got it

I’ll let y’all know how it goes and what I find

Just so some of y’all who looking for some acoustics can like try it out ig

[lyric wren]

What drop tune should I play that sound like Drop C

[storm mulch]

Drop c

[lyric wren]

I did, but it didn’t sound like drop c

[storm mulch]

Can I hear it?

Also your on a tele your pickups affect what you’ll hear

Or assuming it’s a tele

Or strat idk😭

Just on a fender

Your pickups like will definitely change your tone

[lyric wren]

It didn’t, i don’t change my guitar strings, i don’t have some other strings.

I got this from the Guitar center.

[storm mulch]

Can you play your open notes?

[tame frigate]

Drop D

Drop B

Drop A#

Drop A

Drop G#

Drop F

[weary oasis]

I feel like the action on my guitar is a bit too high

I’m a beginner guitarist, so is the action supposed to be this high

[storm mulch]

Bro 💀

How the fuck is that remotely possible💀💀

[verbal fossil]

As a reference this is the action on my guitar

[storm mulch]

Yea smth must’ve happened cause how does your action get so damn high😭

[wind mauve]

bro????

[weary oasis]

I don’t know!!

I’ll play the 12th fret of the low E and hear an F play back to me and think, “That’s not right”

So I measured it

From the 12th fret, the low E is about a half inch (around 12-13 mm) off the fretboard

[weary oasis]

Apparently this is a whole effing centimeter too high

[storm mulch]

Btw yea it’s hella high you gotta get it checked by a guitar repairmen or smth

[balmy vortex]

nice e-II

[open fjord]

https://youtu.be/PZ6_UDdcHJM?si=y1xtMdqcctWuQWTW

[toxic wharf]

Still quite hight

[verbal fossil]

it's less than 1.5mm

[toxic wharf]

You can go as low as 1,5 mm for the low string and 0.5 for the high e if set up correctly

[toxic wharf]

Than its just the picture which makes it seem higher than it actually is

[verbal fossil]

if i lower it more it just start to buzz

[toxic wharf]

1,5 for the low string seems low enough anyway

Also depends on fretboard radius

[verbal fossil]

i don't have the radius right out of the top my head but it's the LTD version for jeff ling signature

[open fjord]

https://youtu.be/WjTvl6Ua9KA?si=bksWM6tUNKz2GADI

[tame frigate]

Drop a in a squier strat is wonky

[harsh fern]

just got my first 7 string, and i couldnt be happier

[storm mulch]

Fret markers are sick

Plus that beautiful beautiful clean tone

[harsh fern]

ikr?? i love these schecter "ghost inlays"

[harsh fern]

you can thank archetype gojira for that one

[storm mulch]

Yea that’s just beauty in 10 seconds

[harsh fern]

im so happy i got this guitar

it was such a risky purchase

1 it was a b stock
2 it was my biggest purchase yet
and 3 ive never tried a 7 string before

[balmy vortex]

i recommend to get it set up as well by a tech to get it to an optimal level

[harsh fern]

it actually already seems well set up

strings are nice and low, i did lower the pickup a little bit cuz it was to high

and it also seems very well intonated

so a massive W

but even if i wanted to, idk if there is any tech near me

im not from the US

[balmy vortex]

nor am i

[open fjord]

https://youtu.be/wmJhCWfeyqE?si=YAsq0-Dedv-9JScw

[harsh fern]

ohhhh the amaroks

i originally wanted to go for those

but now that i got a job

i figured why not treat myself a little

[open fjord]

I haven't tried the Amaroks yet.

Only their LP copy.

[open fjord]

The one in the video is the baritone Amarok.

[harsh fern]

mhm i know x3

all the amaroks are equally sick looking imo

[open fjord]

They do be sick looking.

[hexed igloo]

i wonder where HB cut costs honestly lmao

its probably the wood and hardware right?

it seems kinda mad to offer a neckthru with emgs for £400 but i imagine the bridge, tuners, nut and woods are pretty cheap

[toxic wharf]

Quality control, finish

[open fjord]

Hardware and finishes. Their tops are mostly veneers rather than actual tops.

[open fjord]

QC? Idk but the LP copy I tried felt pretty nice.

[hexed igloo]

yeah that checks out

lots of cheapo wood too

like mahogany and maple, and not particularly nice cuts of either

[open fjord]

https://youtu.be/4BbHD5Wlz4M?si=1Zzw0sVFPbSofRaz

[tame frigate]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aciN1EsIqcs

how can i get a tone like this?

it sounds very dirty and i have no idea hwo to get it

clear example of the tone i want at 0:57

[toxic wharf]

Still they cheap out on QC. That it feels god doesnt negate that

[toxic wharf]

Wouldnt call mahogany necessarily 'cheap'

[hexed igloo]

i mean not really but they only use small amounts of it, and like i said the cuts aren't great

it's not like higher end guitars with full roasted maple or wenge necks

or custom shop level where you get wenge + mahogany + purpleheart, like mayones or skerv

[cobalt sable]

Are there any videos for this type of truss rod ? Cause I only had truss rods at the headstock before getting this guitar

[celest acorn]

my guess is you turn it the opposite way of how you would on a normal guitar

[edgy widget]

random pic of my 7 string lol

[storm mulch]

I don’t even know if that’s even a truss rod to begin with

Nvm I’m dumb

[plain vine]

No way. I got the same one about a month ago but mine's in the grey colour. Also my first 7.

[harsh fern]

yooooo W
i fuck with the gray one hard but only the red one was "b stock"

[plain vine]

Also came set up perfectly. My 6 string shecter (omen elite is the model) I had to lower the action a fair bit... So this one was good.

I just got the grey one because they only had that colour in the store.

[harsh fern]

yeah same here, even tho it was b stock, i see 0 flaws or imperfections

so basically gor a sunset 7 for 200 euro less

cuz normal price for me is 1.2k euro

and i got it for 999

[harsh fern]

nice :D

i took a big gamble, this was my biggest purchase to date, and i never tried a 7 string AND it was b stock

so many things could have gone wrong, but i struck gold

im so glad i got it

[plain vine]

Fair enough. I love this guitar so it's cool to see someone else does aswell

[plain vine]

Did you try out in the store or buy online (or try any 7 strings in person)?

[harsh fern]

nope, never tried ANY 7 string before

so, big gamble

[plain vine]

yeah bit of a gamble then... Don't know if you're interested in multiscale guitars but if you are, definitely try those out in the store. There was another shecter that cost a bit more slightly specs and all but it was multiscale. After giving it a go, I determined multiscale is not for me (at least not anytime soon) and that's why I got that grey one.

Honestly multiscale is not too bad 5th fret and beyond but if your doing lots of chuggs on those first 4 frets, It's not very comfortable (in my opinion).

It's a bit of unrelated advice, but it might be useful down the line.

Me off to bed now, 3:40 😔 ... But good talk (:

[balmy vortex]

you get used to MS very quickly, give it like 5-10 minutes

[cobalt sable]

Lmao

But why are there different holes

[toxic wharf]

To be able to turn when one hole cant be reached?

Lol

[harsh fern]

id love to try out but there is no guitar store near me

and even if there is

i highly doubt they have 7 string guitars

[balmy vortex]

Gear

[hexed igloo]

jealous

[balmy vortex]

I love my job, even when I barely get to play them

[hexed igloo]

i cant even imagine how nice an ESP original must feel, my E-II made any other guitar borderline unplayable

[balmy vortex]

They're other worldly

[harsh fern]

sheeeeesh

looking absolutelly clean

[balmy vortex]

And a few more

[harsh fern]

gah damn

where you work at, lemme come and visit XD

i wish i had a guitar store near me that has such cool guitars

if i do have any near me

i highly highly doubt there are any 7 strings

[balmy vortex]

I work at Axe Palace

[harsh fern]

that place just sounds sick

wtf

why dont croatia got stuff like that here

:(

[balmy vortex]

I'm in the Netherlands lol

[hexed igloo]

those cast metal forests have always been a dream gtr for me lmao

[balmy vortex]

That's a liquid metal onr

Liquid metal blue FRX

[hexed igloo]

yeah, theyre called cast metal sometimes too i think, thats how i know them anyway

teru from jupiter used to rock one yeeeaaaars ago before he got his sig explorer

[balmy vortex]

Cast metal is when they're textured. Liquid metal is when they're not

[hexed igloo]

ah makes sense

[toxic wharf]

That black pia is something else

Absolutely gorgeous guitars

[hoary vector]

i wish more stores sold ibanez would like to try many of them

[bitter yew]

🫠

[severe flume]

Bass is 8.5/10

those fender jazz pickups are so good

instant Jaco Pastorius vibe

Got this for my birthday

[open fjord]

https://youtu.be/tBo0A7OsOPI?si=LHuJnL4FBomppvPf

[gray ermine]

Don't have it yet it's in the way but thoughts on Epiphone Les Paul Studio, Alpine White. Floyd Rose FRX Tremolo System. Guyker Guitar Locking Tuners (3L + 3R) - 1:21. Neutrik NJ3FP6C - Locking 1/4" Jack.

[vital carbon]

Guitar experts I need your help. I know this is a fake but im really curious what model it might be?

They intentionally are not showing the headstock

I would pick one of these up for the meme because a real one is like $10-20k

[vital carbon]

got a pic of the headstock, def a fake and looks like a meme all around

[tame frigate]

Im using a fuggin squier strat on drop A without any modificstion at all

Might buy lockin tuners or somethin

Replace the pick guard and pickups with something that can handle a humbucker and teo sinbgle thingies

[open fjord]

What kind of Strat?

[plain vine]

Hmmm, assuming this strat is sss then you'd probably need to route a humbucker sized cavity before doing that pickguard+pickup mod. I think there are single sized humbucker pickups but I don't have any experience with those, maybe give them a look at.

[tame frigate]

A squier one

[tame frigate]

Like noiseless singlecoils?

[plain vine]

As far as I understand, noiseless singlecoils are just 2 coils stacked upon each other... But if you search up "single form humbucker" there looks like 2 parallel coils but in the size of one coil.

I assume that will impact output or something compared to a full size humbucker though and might cost more because its a more niche product.

I only brought it up because you can put a full size humbucker in but it would require removing some wood where the pickup sits, called the cavity, to make space for the larger pickup.

As far as how to do that or more detail on those single form humbuckers, it's a bit out of my league but I hope it gave you something to look out for and do some research one so you don't waste money.

[primal parrot]

check out seymour duncan hot rails!

also consider getting thicker strings for drop A

[burnt quest]

My baby

Akira Takasaki is my favorite guitarist of all times my second favorite is Randy rhoads

[gritty garden]

For those Quad Cortex users who live under a rock: https://neuraldsp.com/quad-cortex-updates/quad-cortex-owners-were-giving-away-eur5m-of-free-plugins

[verbal fossil]

this is my quad cortex

[inner bone]

From which plugin and how much?

[verbal fossil]

wdym?

[inner bone]

I mean are those from Neural DSP?

[verbal fossil]

all of them yes

[inner bone]

How much is that total

Or I should ask

How much is the Petrucci and Gojira ones

[verbal fossil]

i got the gojira one for free lol

on the nik noc awards

but the petrucci was like 160 at the time i think

in €

[inner bone]

Hmm

[verbal fossil]

it's at 179€ now and 154€ for gojira

[inner bone]

I'm gonna buy an audio interface soon thats why I asked

Along with a MacBook

[verbal fossil]

as for the parallax it's a bass plugin

[inner bone]

Probably Scarlett 2i2

[inner bone]

I don't think it's neccesary

Since I also have a bass

[verbal fossil]

what i mean by bass plugin is it's a bass amp

not an actual VST bass

[inner bone]

Oh ok

[verbal fossil]

it's the cheaper of all

it's 119€

i used to get it for 100 before the X version came out

[inner bone]

Aight Aight

[wispy flint]

https://us.focusrite.com/products/scarlett-solo

how is this

4th gen

[plain vine]

Because they added a headphones volume knob.

[gritty garden]

I was going to say hasn't it always had a headphone volume knob... then I remembered I was thinking of the 2i2.

Holy fuck those 4th gen prices are insane £200 for a 2i2... 3rd gen was only £129

[wispy flint]

what's the best option

[toxic wharf]

Depends on your needs.

But 3rd gen works great.

2i2

[balmy vortex]

universal audio volt interfaces

[open fjord]

https://youtu.be/PzZG1gwJEyE?si=QPWJO_r41OOolCUF

https://youtu.be/5fgJzJjnyvw?si=JMeCUbcmXyD0_rab

[inner bone]

2i2 one better

[wispy flint]

dope

thanks

[open fjord]

https://youtu.be/E8-qAueJK5I?si=-oKW9qVvBrGG6egs

[open fjord]

Hey guys, the guitarist from Jinjer got his own signature model from Jackson!

https://youtu.be/hSRbNKwRmPk?si=x24-TUm_mkni5b98

[gritty garden]

Took a while but we here https://youtu.be/tG19KliCwws?si=H6uPdCp9y8zja1vw

[gritty garden]

I'd air on the side of caution and go one up from the entry model interfaces (Focusrite/Universal Audio/Behringer etc. That way you have two inputs should one fail, or should your needs change and you need to record two things at once.

[wispy flint]

right

makes sense

[gritty garden]

That's just me though, always thinking of redundancy or avoiding having to buy "twice" as you progress/needs change

[hoary vector]

I want a qc so bad those plug-ins are crazy. I already have gojira x and I would be so excited when they add petrucci too

[open fjord]

They haven't said what the next round of X plugins are going to be yet. If I was a betting man I'd have to guess that Cali and the Grano are next.

With the next two after being possibly Abasi or Petrucci and Cory Wong

Neural seem to be targeting the most popular plugins first, so it makes sense Plini and Gojira were the first two to get X. Soldano and Nameless after also make a lot of sense. And with the recent additions of Nolly and Parallax, I would assume the next ones would be more popular ones.

I would take venture to guess that the NTS, Mesa Mark, and Darkglass Ultra would be the last ones to get an update seeing as they were not very popular.

[toxic wharf]

Than shouldnt Cory Wongs archetype be next?

Hugely popular

[open fjord]

It is but not as popular as Cali or Grano. Cali for the simple fact that it's a hot rod Marshall with 3 channels and is one of their most popular plugins, but Grano for the fact it's considered the "Dark Horse" of the lineup, and people have been begging Neural for an update to add more shit to it.

[toxic wharf]

Also Petrucci seems little 'work'. It has most of the stuff that the X variants get treated with

[toxic wharf]

Ah yeah makes sense

Granophyre is quite bare bones

[open fjord]

You're right, but I wager that much like the other Archetypes of the bunch to get the X update, John will probably request something be added to his plugin much like Plini and Nolly did with theirs.

Gojira is such a monster plugin I bet Joe didn't even ask to add anything and was like "Non, plugin is fine." So Neural just added room sounds and the other stuff and that was it.

I personally don't care for Archetype: Gojira but that's just me.

[toxic wharf]

Same, I prefer Nolly for the 5150 sound

All other I use Plini

[open fjord]

I sold Nolly 2 years ago because I grew not to care for the sounds anymore cuz they sounded sterile. I'll email Neural to trial out the X plugin later cuz I am curious about the new IRs. While I think most of Nolly's guitar stuff sounds sterile (my opinion) his IRs always slap.

[open fjord]

I switch between Plini, Mesa Mark IIC+, and the SLO-100 (which replaced Nolly).

Also learning that Nolly modded his 5150 to be somewhere between the Block Letter and the II makes a lot more sense now.

I personally don't care for the sound of the II, but then again I like Rabea's tone which is ironically, a 5150II mixed with a JCM900 soooo xD

[wind mauve]

I started using STL amphub last weekend

and honestly

idk if i can go back to neural their shit sound so much better it’s insane

[open fjord]

I tried out AmpHub for a while. It was okay. Some sounds were awesome, some were....less so. But honestly I'm not gonna knock it. :3

[open fjord]

What made Neural's sound shit in your opinion?

[wind mauve]

sorry bad wording

i meant STL’s shit sounds so much better

Neural’s stuff isn’t shit it’s just not really as varied or interesting

[open fjord]

Well I mean Neural has a bad habit of repeating themselves.

7 Marshalls (Plini's Friedman, Fortin Nameless and Cali, Henson and Nolly's JCM800, Rabea's Victory Kraken, and Morello's 2204 50w) 3 5150s (Nolly's modded 5150, Gojira's 5153, and Rabea's Victory Kraken), 5 Fenders (Gojira Amp 1, Rabea Amp 1, Wong Amp 2, Tone King Imperial, and Morgan Amp 2) and the rest are diamonds in the rough nobody uses.

And before you ask, the Victory Kraken was designed where channel 1 of the amp based on a JCM900, and channel 2 is based on a 5150II.

So naturally for Rabea's plugin amp 2 is channel 1 of the Kraken, and amp 3 is channel 2 of the Kraken.

From my time trying out AmpHub, they had a ton of crap like Orange, PRS, Mesa Rectifiers, Bad Cat, Framus, and a bunch of other shit.

The problem with Neural is that the more interesting stuff in my opinion anyways like the Mesa Mark, Omega Grano, and Morgan (yes even though I dunked on it the other two amps are phenomenal) nobody plays.

[teal fractal]

I'm so stoked. My speakers came in today and my rig is done! Invective MH going to a copy of an invective 2x12 I built. It's the Gjallarhorn 2x12 by Rabbit (me). 3d printed a 4 button enclosure for amp control.

[wind mauve]

mesa rectifier in the crap zone is the worst take of this lifetime

considering my rhythm tone currently is the rectifier

significantly better sounding than anything i've tried

only thing that beats it is the actual physical mesa badlander

[open fjord]

Oh no I meant like a ton of amps. I wasn't saying the Rectifier was crap. I worded that very poorly lol.

[wind mauve]

i like that it has a ton tbqh

[open fjord]

Honestly over in Agufish server I'm known as the Rectifier expert lol.

I love em that much.

[wind mauve]

but yeah like i've got a rectifier for the rhythm tone and 6505 for the lead and both sound distinct and different without clashing

accidentally created an almost acacia strain tone

[open fjord]

Niceee

[wind mauve]

this was a quick like 5 minute soundcheck i did with em

[open fjord]

Sounds good!

[toxic wharf]

Tbh I think Neural DSP has a lot of repetition in theor line up like @open fjord says, but when it comes to emulation of amps feel and sound wise they still come the closest imo. The fact that the plugins sometimes even sound better than presets of the CQ itself is a testament to that quality

Im glad they now focus on updating existing plugins rather than providing everyone and their mom an archetype

[open fjord]

Supposedly the next person to release an Archetype is Devin Townsend. But we have no idea when that'll happen because we've been waiting for his for quite some time.

[wind mauve]

they need an archetype candlethorn

[toxic wharf]

Honestly prefer a Line 6 Spider over that

Jk

[wind mauve]

did you think the archetype wouldn't be a line 6 spider??

with a boss HM2 pedal

that you can't turn off

[clear phoenix]

Which scales/keys would you recommend for a low tuned djent song with lots of dissonance?

[tardy seal]

Hello. I've been playing guitar for almost 8 years now. BUT, yeah there's a huge but here, I've never really practiced... I know thats my bad. I only practiced Rammstein and Slipknot songs for a long time. Thus my technique is restricting me to write more music. I really want to dive into the world of death metal (more in the style of The Black Dahlia Murder) and I'd love to see some practice advices.

[tardy seal]

phrygian, phyrgian dominant

[plain vine]

I haven’t been playing for nearly as long as you… but I feel some techniques that are used a lot by bands in that genre (and not as much by bands like rammstein and slipknot) are alternate/trem picking, string skipping and sometimes some galloping type stuff.

Might not be the help you’re looking for, but I would try to improve these techniques and find songs that use them (which shouldn’t be hard because as I said these techniques are fairly popular for the style).

[tardy seal]

been trying to learn what a horrible night to have a curse for a week or so now. i can barely play it 10% slowed 😄 string skipping and gallopping are challenges to me

[tardy seal]

i was looking for practice tabs or that kind of stuff but do you think practicing songs would help too?

[plain vine]

Absolutely practicing songs will help. I’m sure practice tabs for the different techniques will help aswell, but I’ve never used those, I just practice songs.

[tardy seal]

same here. btw i have one question too. i realized that i build unnecessary tension on my right hand while playing fast. got any advices for solving it too? my right arm (picking) builds too much tension and my left hand gets tense automatically too

[plain vine]

Hmm, the only black dahlia murder song I tried learning was Nightbringers. And I can tell you now, string skipping is essential for that.

[tardy seal]

i learned thy horror cosmic since its on drop c, not c standard and its ok for me to play. standard is like undiscovered territory for me 😄

[plain vine]

Umm, a little tension is alright when you feel it is excessive, you just got to slow down and practice the bit that you tense up on and build up that speed slowly. When picking fast such as gallops or trem picking, you should try and use your wrist as much as possible so your arm doesn’t tire out but at a certain speed or playing for a while it’s inevitable your arm will start moving aswell. I can’t really give many more tips, as I say haven’t been playing as long as you and I’m sure many others in this discord, but that advice has helped me.

[lethal fractal]

Harmonic minor, Hungarian minor or exotic locrian all have some good tension notes.

[plain vine]

The left hand tension (im assuming your fretting hand) I don’t know how to help, sorry. (But I’m sure more practice and practice will help)

[tardy seal]

you did more than enough, thank you so much! thanks for your time 🍻

[plain vine]

Lol. I don’t know that one so I’ll give it a listen :)

[plain vine]

No problem, hopefully someone more knowledgeable than me will have some other tips or some practice tabs to give you. Good luck on your playing.🍻😄

[thick delta]

what kind of effects would you use to make a midi guitar sound like a synth like in this clip

[lyric wren]

Almost tried a spiders riff

[toxic wharf]

I connected my guitar directly to my PC's integrated sound card and somehow made it sound good using eq and multiband compressor

Talking about my guitar: I have the Aria STG-004 Sunburst guitar and Joyo DC-30 amp. They actually sound good even if you know the price (the guitar costs around 150 USD or 15000 RUB and the combo amplifier costs around 170 USD or 17000 RUB)

[lethal fractal]

I mean sounding like a synth is pretty broad any specific synth sound you have in mind?
As well what effects do you have or how much are you willing to spend on an effect?

[thick delta]

i want it to sound like that clip

[lethal fractal]

Ah I misread that...

[thick delta]

i typically dont spend money on plugins tho i use freeware

[lethal fractal]

Alright, I thought you wanted that clip to sound like a synth...
I'll take a listen again and see what it has.

[lethal fractal]

I'd play around with a reverb, distortion/fuzz pedal and chorus pedal.
You could add some sort of a phaser as well if you wanted something a bit more unique to your own thing.

[lethal fractal]

Depends what your midi guitar sounds like.
If it's already a distorted midi scratch the distortion/fuzz pedal.
If it's more a clean guitar tone adding a light distortion would be nice.

Adding a light delay that doesn't repeat and isn't blended into the tone to heavily can help fill up the space even more if you wanted very full.

[thick delta]

my midi guitar is like di samples -> eq -> compressor -> overdrive -> amp sim -> chorus -> eq

i dont have a guitar specific reverb or phaser plugin

[lethal fractal]

You could do a clean amp with a distortion pedal infront or have just a crunchy Marshall amp Sim (if you have one or something similar) for that main tone...
There are plenty of free plugins for guitar specific effects if you wanted to get one, or you could play with what you currently have and get a cool unique sound that might stand out to you that you'd end up loving.

Disable the compressor you shouldn't need it.

[lethal fractal]

I'd like a vintage reverb for that but that's just personal preference but a good reverb you could use is the TAL-Reverb-4 it's a vintage plate reverb

You don't need the phaser just something fun you could add but it would change up the vibe a good bit.

[thick delta]

i mainly just want that synth style buzz so it doesnt just sound like im playing guitar on keyboard cuz i cant play guitar

i thought it was a synth and everyone said it was a guitar made to sound like a synth

[lethal fractal]

That was my initial thoughts I'd agree... As it sounds like a guitar with just a few effects layered on it.

Either way you can get a midi guitar to sound like that for sure.

I'm just listening on my phone so I'm not going to be picky if it's a guitar or just a synth.

There are even great modular synths you can plug guitars into so it's a guitar DI but then processed through a synth

[lethal fractal]

If you want to try a clean amp sim with a fuzz and distortion pedal in front of it, see what those sound like. Then, try just a crunchy amp with pedals. Finally, try a distorted amp with the pedals to see what distortion level you prefer.

Then, you can EQ it and, at the end, add any other fun effects you would want.

If you are just chasing the distortion then do the first 3 and find what you like the sound of

[thick delta]

fuzz and distortion?

[lethal fractal]

Or* sorry

I mean you could do both... Wouldn't recommend though haha

[thick delta]

also do i need two different plugins that are labeled "fuzz" and "distortion" or can i do fuzz by using a distortion with the gain cranked up really high

[lethal fractal]

Fuzz and distortion are different effects just the way they interact with the signal.

So yes you would need two different effects if you just have distortion then just use it.
Adding fuzz just gives you more options but they might all be options you don't like.

[thick delta]

im already downloading plugins so ill just get both

[lethal fractal]

I bet you will use it down the line so good idea.
When you start working on the tone if you have any other questions just ping me or DM me.

It's getting late here so I will be sleeping soon but I'll answer anything in the morning if I don't get to them by time I go to sleep.

[thick delta]

thx a lot for ur help

i will

[lethal fractal]

No worries :)

[thick delta]

ok i couldnt find a convenient distortion plugin thats not full of viruses so im using this stock reaper one

will it work

also should i take my overdrive off if im putting distortion before the amp anyway

[lethal fractal]

Will it work yes, will it be great eh... probably not but it's still distortion.

Another thing from TAL is the TAL-Tube decent distortion you could get.

[thick delta]

no 64 bit?

[lethal fractal]

Depends if you like the overdrive sound or the distorted sound.
Play with both, if you have the Overdrive I'd start with that and try that out before the distortion from reaper

[thick delta]

yeah i have overdrive, fuzz, and stock reaper distortion

[lethal fractal]

Ugh I guess not nevermind that then.

[lethal fractal]

Which Od are you using? It's most likely will sound better then reapers stock distortion

[thick delta]

audiority dr drive

this is a really weird tone im going for tho cuz its not like "a guitar tone" yknow

[thick delta]

its this

i wanna really mess with the sound cuz i need this for when i meet up with my band in a week

and we have an actual guitarist and i dont want them to make fun of me for playing guitar on a keyboard

my od gain doesnt go high enough

[lethal fractal]

Many home producers and some big producers for specific genres use midi for a lot so you shouldn't get made fun of.
Use the overdrive you have that will do, play with your amp Sims and IRs.
You should be able to get a decent tone, play with the reverb and the other effects will cover the midi sound a bit more.

[lethal fractal]

Do you have any high gain amp Sims?

[thick delta]

yeah i use ignite emissary and fenrir mini

fenrir mini only has one tone cuz its a trial of a paid amp but the one tone is awesome

[lethal fractal]

Even with a high gain amp and the overdrive doesn't feel like enough?

[thick delta]

wouldnt work for this tho

oh wait

you said clean amp and distortion before the amp

i was trying to get all my distortion out of the od to make the amp clean

[lethal fractal]

Yep, if you are running the od with a clean amp may not be enough so you can try a distorted amp as well by itself and with the overdrive as well

[thick delta]

how do i get that kind of chiptune type sound the clip has

it has a square wave vibe idk how to replicate that on guitar

[lethal fractal]

Add the chorus and then try the phaser and even try both. I'm guessing that's what you are thinking of in that tone.
You should be able to replicate it with the chorus or phaser.

[thick delta]

do u know any good free phasers

[lethal fractal]

Not off the top of my head but I can look I bet plenty of youtubers have some good recommendations as well

[thick delta]

@lethal fractal i like what i have so far but i need to get that digital old video game texture

the phaser helped a little bit but i dont like the actual phasing/modulation cuz i want my tone to be static

i also need to learn how my reverb works cuz its a bit excessive rn

sorry for the blue bally clip btw i dont have midi for that song

[toxic wharf]

apologies for this lighting but damn i spent the whole day playin this thing i forgot to take a picture during the day lmao, first electric guitar

[keen apex]

i bought a guitar with a floyd rose, and as a not very experienced player, i have now lost the will to live

this shit is literally demotivating me by the minute trying to tune this thing

i need help

[open fjord]

https://youtu.be/RptVcpsggmI?si=V4VcxBJyv-iM3O4H

[lethal fractal]

Does the phaser have a depth and rate nob?
If it does turn the depth down and the rate up that might help less drastic shift at a faster pace keeping it more stable but still feel synthy

[thick delta]

it only has one knob for speed

[lethal fractal]

Ah okay, hmm

[plain vine]

Very cool, looks like a shredder 🔥

[toxic wharf]

thats funny cuz i just bought a jackson

[lethal fractal]

String changes will be fun, takes some time but you learn how to do it fast and efficiently.

[keen apex]

It's the tuning part that pisses me off

[lethal fractal]

Turn the big nobs lock and then fine tune and you are all set.

Make sure you stretch your strings

[keen apex]

Wdym

The strings are all good

It's just annoying to tune the way a floating bridge works

[keen apex]

Good thing I'm seeing my cousin who knows a lot about guitars he could help out

[lethal fractal]

Tune the low E first then the High E then ADGB strings and repeat that until it's properly in tune.
I've found that's the best way to keep the tension balanced the best.

[keen apex]

Does that work with any tuning basically

Cause it's really annoying to downtune and shit

[lethal fractal]

Yea same idea, but when changing the tuning the tension changes so you generally should adjust the claw in the back again and that becomes more annoying.
Though ya same idea, you can even go Low E, High E, A, B, D, G I haven't found it changes how affective it is at balancing and just more annoying but that's on a standard 2 point trem so might work better for the floyd

Constatly changing tunings on such things are what gets annoying.

[toxic wharf]

Leave it in 1 tuning

[lethal fractal]

^

[toxic wharf]

You cant change tunings on a wim with a floating bridge

[keen apex]

Might as well just return it and get a new one then cause I at least wanna be able to change tunings

I ain't ready for that😭

[lethal fractal]

Getting multiple guitars is the goal hehe

[keen apex]

Yea but right now

Broke

[lethal fractal]

Ye

Get a pitch shifter

[keen apex]

True..

[toxic wharf]

Should have done some basic research 🤷‍♂️

[keen apex]

I did

It didn't say shit about not changing the tuning after

[toxic wharf]

Huh? Thats basically the first reason why floating bridges are so divisive

A good system has great stability with the pay off you cant easily change tunings

[lethal fractal]

Don't read anything or watch anything from that source that's supposed to have detailed informational.
Not having that is awful

[keen apex]

is that source wikipedia perhaps

[lethal fractal]

Nah just the people who wrote the page.

[open fjord]

If you use any of the Neural plugins they have a transpose knob.

That's how I do my downtuning for any song I make these days.

[keen apex]

i do not have any software yet

[open fjord]

I don't tune my guitar unless it's a hyper specific tuning like Mark Tremonti's open C# tuning (C#, G#, C#, G#, C#, C#) or the Karnivool tuning (B, F#, B, G, B, E).

[open fjord]

Just an amp and a cab?

Or a combo.

[keen apex]

ill get an interface soon tho

[open fjord]

I wouldn't go too crazy, just get a Focusrite and your off to the races.

What kind of tones you looking for?

[keen apex]

i wanna gonna

focusrite 3rd gen is on sale rn

[open fjord]

Hell yeah go for it :3

[lethal fractal]

Good idea, get it and get the new updated Nolly Plugin and you are set for life

It's 30% off because the update

[toxic wharf]

i personally cannot decide whether to use neck or bridge pickup for rythm guitar

[tame frigate]

is 11 to 52 good for drop a

[lethal fractal]

Depends on your scale length

[tame frigate]

Typical strat

[lethal fractal]

No

[tame frigate]

So sad

[lethal fractal]

62 for the low A string minimum for a 25.5 inch scale.

[patent sierra]

got my first 7 string yesterday

[lethal fractal]

Enjoy

[plain vine]

Hmmm doesn't matter too much... I just leave my guitar on bridge for everything. Just use what sounds best to you.

[plain vine]

Very cool

[plain vine]

I agree with Conic, You want a higher gauge set. I use 10-52 on my 25.5 scale guitar (with those I play in drop d) and I'd say lowest you can go with those are drop c (drop b gets too floppy). I haven't used a higher gauge than that on 25.5 inch scale but a 62 for the low A sounds about right. Also depending on your current strings, guitar might need a slight adjust to the action and larger cut on the nut slots.

[tame frigate]

Ima just use drop c

[hoary vector]

Transposer

[inner bone]

Best to sell and buy a new one ig

[thick delta]

@lethal fractal this is as close as i can get

someone told me once that it sounded like synth mixed with guitar so ill try that

[toxic wharf]

what about both? is there anything wrong with using both bridge and neck

for high distortion

[plain vine]

I don't think there's any problem. Really just mess around with different pickup configurations for different songs/parts of songs and use what sounds the best.

[toxic wharf]

my bridge pickup is slightly louder than neck and both at once

im guessing its intentional

[plain vine]

Sometimes they have a couple more winds in the bridge pickup which can give it a higher output (or use a different pickup, although typically not something cheaper guitars have), but could also be the extra brightness that a bridge pickup that you're perceiving as louder?

[toxic wharf]

idk but when im switching the pikcups in an open strum it really sounds like its at a higher level thru my headsert

i dont have a interface yet

so ill check that once it arrived

its a 200 euro guitar so

but i can always just lower it after recording if its too loud anyways

[plain vine]

Yeah, Interfaces are cool. Can mess around with recording, plugins and stuff

Kinda hard to test if one pickup is actually louder than the other just because of the human element (you hand, could strum a bit harder or in a different position affecting your test) but idk, Could be you could try if your that interested.

[lethal fractal]

You could just measure the output of each pickup

If that's what you wanted to know, still recommend an interface and some monitors

[open fjord]

https://youtu.be/Pcf2XZ4lPU8?si=vdSxUj_7emLOpN7_

[lethal fractal]

Fast answer no

[open fjord]

Lol

Also

Time for actual guitar stuff instead of funny shit

https://youtu.be/-0qui_oxIX8?si=ZrxMKnSypxX0c8iD

[nimble steeple]

Drop G# on my 6 string 300$ Jackson

[open fjord]

https://youtu.be/MI7VwmxuCAw?si=grpQ881Y0JWkt6z3

And yes you can own this guitar.

[cosmic wave]

my new guitar

[plain vine]

Hell yeah, shecter. Interesting finish.

[toxic wharf]

got a basic marshall amp to go with it

[toxic wharf]

apologies for shit playing too XD

[open fjord]

https://youtu.be/2CeANl4nncM?si=b8oTDWuU51fax8PX

Fluff got his hands on the new Mark Holcomb pickups.

[wind mauve]

im tryna get my hands on some nazgul & sentient

but the 7 string model doesn't come in the red variant

which like, why not? why can't 7-strings get cool things too??

[bitter yew]

can someone be a little generous and dm me the tabs for "so strange" by polyphia? I cant find the tabs anywhere

[sturdy bloom]

I need some opinions, I bought a 7 string a while ago,
Its an ESP LTD TE-407, scale length of 25.5", no longer make them and I got it for a good price.

Its come time to restring it but ive literally never bought 7 string guitar strings before as the ones on it when I bought it were new. I normally use ernie ball because they are cheap, but im getting to the point as my band is starting to look at creating more id rather go to quality over price just to see if I like them more, does anybody have any advice on what set to buy, I like them with some tension but not too loose where they get floppy

if anyone has any advice for it thatd be cool

Ive done some searching but half the comments go from one person saying one set is good to another saying its quite loose so a bit lost where to go

[lethal fractal]

@sturdy bloom I'd recommend that you check out some strings from stringjoy you can even make custom sets for the perfect tension they have coated and uncoated strings coated being a bit more but lasting much longer.
You also have Elixers strings which are coated and I personally use as I haven't tested string joys strings enough to switch.
For non coated strings you can look into D'Addario NXYL strings they sound good last a bit longer then ernies.

If you don't mind the price go with stringJoy, if you have a bit more of a budget then Elixers for coated and NYXLs for regular strings.

As well for tension, that depends on your tuning.

String joy has a tension calculator: https://tension.stringjoy.com/

Plug into it the tuning you use and the string gauges you currently use to get a rough idea of what tension you currently play at. Then you can plug in different sets to see what tension you would get from them, then compare them to what you are used to, and what you are looking for.

[sturdy bloom]

I mean its not so much price or anything

its more string guage im stuck on

[lethal fractal]

What's your tuning? I'd go with Elixers.
Forgot stringjoy doesn't have 7 string coated... Unless you want custom string sets and are fine with uncoated then stringjoy.

[sturdy bloom]

Yeah I was thinking elixr just like I say string guage

im on a 25.5" scale

just looking for like the drop A-standard setup

I use a whammy DT currently cus I play so many things so its convenient for home use

[lethal fractal]

You most likely would want to get an 8 string set or get their 11-59 7 string set tune to B standard and use you whammy and drop to A standard.

[sturdy bloom]

sorry my bad I meant like

bottom string A

the rest standard

then for bands like northlane I just make it drop D instead of the rest being standard then pitch shift still

so A-E-A-D-G-B-E

[plain vine]

I always use elixrs. Both on acoustic and electric. They last long time and I guess always sound good (I’ve never had a bad sounding set of strings honestly).

[lethal fractal]

Their 11-59 set should be good for you then.

[lethal fractal]

Little bit floppy on that A string

[sturdy bloom]

when you say that is it still somewhat tight or more towards the floppy end

[lethal fractal]

It's pretty average around 15lbs of tension I've played at 11lbs and with a light pick it feels fine.
So it will be good, it comes down to personal taste though so lots of trial and error of different gauges.

[sturdy bloom]

yeah just wondered best place to start

i use 1mm carbon jazz 3s i think

and am a fairly heavy picker

[lethal fractal]

For sure, trial an error I've played with probably 4 gauges per guitar see what feels best on it and I've tried probably 30 different types of picks lots of trying new stuff and adjustments being made as time goes on.

[sturdy bloom]

eh picks ive gone through phases but nothing is more comfortable than jazz 3s for me

as basic as they are

[lethal fractal]

Good find what fits

[sturdy bloom]

i used to use tortex flow or whatever it is that the more pointy one but i realised its too big to be comfortable

[lethal fractal]

I use handmade wooden picks and then just rabea's guitar picks I'm going to try some purples somday

[open fjord]

Alrighty you Quad Cortex bois we got an update.

In the next CorOS update, Soldano SLO-100 X and Fortin Nameless X will have cross compatibility turned on.

Also the next two plugins for the X update will be Cory Wong and Petrucci.

[lethal fractal]

I'm excited to get my QC

[open fjord]

Hell yeah. They already have plugin compatibility for Plini and Gojira X turned on.

[lethal fractal]

Yep :)

[open fjord]

I would love a QC but broke.

Besides it's not like I play shows anyways lol.

[lethal fractal]

I'm just starting to try and get into shows.
I'm saving for one but have other priorities right now.

[open fjord]

Oof

[toxic wharf]

25.5 can handle it fine with right string gauge

I can deal with 0.60 on drop A for the low 'B' on a 7 string

And use 1.47 mm picks and quite a heavy pick attack

Scale is 25.65 btw

[wind mauve]

what does the extra .15" add

[lethal fractal]

.2lbs of tension. Not much.

[wind mauve]

oh you're back

hello

[open fjord]

Honestly just gonna say it now.

With a 25.5 inch scale length in drop A, most people would likely get a Baritone at that point, or just pull out the 7-String if they got one. But quite honestly the 25.5 inch length can handle Drop A with a set of 10s.

I know because I'm the idiot who has a Strat set up that way.

All alot of ya'll forget the Strat was designed to run heavy ass strings. But because of its design it can drop tune and run standard 10s no problem.

[lethal fractal]

I have to be running heavy strings on my strat or my neck relief is just garbage and I have to have like 3mm of string height so I don't get string buzz 0_0

I asked fender if they could help me but I got to ship it off to this place then that place then here or there before they would even say they would be willing to chat so I'm just saving for a new neck.

[short basalt]

Is there really this many guitarists and bassists compared to drummers? Or is it just a horde of guitarists and a couple of bassist

[strange light]

Is there a way to get tje krank distortus maximus pedal?

[toxic wharf]

It adds a Kaizen

[toxic wharf]

If you dont play leads or make use of the extended range sure

[toxic wharf]

Horde of guitarplayers

[wind mauve]

sounds flavourful

[plain vine]

Got my first tube amp

[lethal fractal]

Enjoy, nice little amp.

I always play the same one when I go to my local store fun to just jam on

[plain vine]

Well, compared to the little 15w cort amp I had before, This is a fairly big step up.

Can only really use it in the daytime though. Get's quite loud even when the switch at the back is on 4w power mode

[lethal fractal]

For there size they pack an amazing punch that's for sure.

You don't need anything bigger then that for home playing pretty perfect in my opinion.

Hah ya.

[lethal fractal]

My bass

[plain vine]

very nice looking bass

[wind mauve]

ooh i saw one of those at my local L&M

in black tho

[lethal fractal]

Nice

[wind mauve]

if i knew how to tune basses

and play them

i might've tried

[lethal fractal]

Bottom 4 strings off a 6 string for 4 string and Bottom 5 strings of a 7 string guitar for a 5 string bass.

Just forths all the way across.

[wind mauve]

[short basalt]

I didn’t even realize until right now that my Truss rod cover was at a 90 DEGREE ANGLE LMAO

Ignore the A string knot, that’s just because string was cut too short so the guy instead of restringing it just knotted. I’m definitely going to get that restrung sometime

[plain vine]

Lol

[lethal fractal]

Nice when they swing for the truss rod

[inner bone]

How do you even tune that thing down?

[short basalt]

I don’t even know how the hell I was doing it, fixed it though

[sturdy bloom]

if it works it works

what i say

bass strings too expensive to just get more tbf sometimes

[short basalt]

Fair

Tone is a nightmare to get damn

[lethal fractal]

Dingwall strings sound amazing and feel great but are stupid expensive

[short basalt]

Indeed

[lethal fractal]

Probably not @short basalt

[short basalt]

Alright

Anyway, anybody got any good beginner metal songs for bass?

[lethal fractal]

Depends, any specific techniques you are trying to learn and what's your goals

[short basalt]

Chugging and fretboard movement currently

I mean I’m almost completely a beginner, so just trying to master the simple stuff first

[lethal fractal]

Both of those you'd be better off drilling practices.
I mean for chugging I'd recommend a lot of periphery songs as they have a lot of rhythmic baselines which you can drill on a single not for right hand technique.
They have plenty of songs with movement.

Best advice is just songs you like though.
Even better advice is dedicated practice drills rather then songs.

[short basalt]

True

Thanks

[lethal fractal]

For fretboard placement playing scales and naming each note you play as you drill so you learn the fretboard and where notes are so you can have full access to the fretboard.

For chugging just rythm practice a lot of different rythm vidoes online that you can just chug with.

Learning songs is good but it comes once you can play and it's a different type of learning.

Playing scales vertically and horizontally and then later mixing both

[lethal fractal]

Always play with a metronome

[short basalt]

Really? What if I’m like just learning a technique or working on something like 4 finger fretting

[lethal fractal]

Then especially with a metronome

If you are learning then you desperately need the metronome so you don't get sloppy and it sticks in your playing one you can play consistently then it's not needed as often but even when just noodling having a backing track to keep you on a tempo

[short basalt]

Alright

It’s basin time then

[lethal fractal]

Have fun

[short basalt]

Would you say it’s good to start with like 85 BPM and increase it slowly

[lethal fractal]

Play with the BPM first to test your limit try and see how slow you can go with it being perfect and how fast you can go before messing up.
Keep a journal of your BPMs and the exercises so you can see your achievements.

Slowly increase the speed to get faster and also practice at the slowest speeds you can for consistency and being very precise

[short basalt]

I wear the first bass badge of honor

Someone officially called my bass a guitar

[open fjord]

I've made demos for Soldano X and Nameless X. Should I make one for Nolly X (while I still have the trial) and Plini X?

[lethal fractal]

If you want to for sure.

[open fjord]

Hell yeah. It'll be hard because I want to use all 4 amps. But I can try and do it.

[lethal fractal]

Nolly and plini are amazing ground settings I got soldano for a very specific tone, and petrucci for the effects...

Nameless is just skull crushing

[short basalt]

I will own a 5 string eventually

Officially did all 4 finger fretting across the whole bass with little mess up

[open fjord]

@lethal fractal This was my Nameless demo. I posted it in the Feedback Requests channel a while back.

I was so close to buying it to replace Gojira X. As cool as it is, I haven't used Gojira in at least 2 years as I felt it was was too bright and piercing to me. My tinnitus doesn't help lol. The honeymoon phase wore off kek.

Ultimately I decided not to as Plini X gives me the modded Marshall thing. But I finally understood why Nameless was so well liked.

[open fjord]

@acoustic cobalt

[lethal fractal]

I didn't like gojira same stuff to sound specific and not my taste for my music.

[lethal fractal]

Nameless is such an iconic sound from those amps and works really well.
I don't need that much gain it's fun to mess around with and play with.

It's cleans are alright but such a specific sound that you wouldn't really use.

[open fjord]

Yeah man. It's so raucous and wild and damn near uncontrollable unless you dial it just right.

But that's kinda what I like about it.

[lethal fractal]

For sure, I love it too. During the trial I'd just chug the crap out of it... It's fun to do just not my style

[open fjord]

What do you play?

[short basalt]

Anybody got suggestions on how to get a good general tone on a fender frontman with a 3 knob bass and I think I have PJ pickups?

[lethal fractal]

Modern prog metal, jazz, neo soul/LoFi vibes.

[short basalt]

Mind if I ask for you to send a clip?

[acoustic cobalt]

Me when I 💥💥💥

[lethal fractal]

Of?

[lethal fractal]

I listed 3 things what do you want?

[short basalt]

Meant you playing something, I don’t really care what

[lethal fractal]

I probably can tomorrow or something yea.

[lethal fractal]

Also I'll be releasing my first EP soon so that will be on the lookout.

[abstract yarrow]

Not too sure if this is the correct place but does anyone know what midi controlers work with the whammy DT pedal?, i bought the humanity last breath tab pack which comes with midi automaon files but i dont have a controler. and im a little confused on what i need for it. sorry if this turns out im just being stupid lol

[lethal fractal]

Good question for Google and YouTube for a more detailed answer.
It also depends on how you want it set up, but there are lots of foot pedals you can use. There are also Bluetooth MIDI controller setups.
Then there is programming the MIDI in a DAW or some other program.

[toxic wharf]

I dont know about files, but as long as the pedal itself is midi compatible you should be able to program it with any midi board

[toxic wharf]

If you have that coming out soon, you can at least share a littlr snippet of something no?

[severe flume]

sexy 🥵

Can confirm, it C H U G S

[open fjord]

https://youtu.be/ql8GZKHmbJ0?si=_LlgocLW-ObmJqrw

[abstract yarrow]

ah okay thankyou!

[abstract yarrow]

thankyou! got a little confused but i think im close to working it out now

[short basalt]

RAHH IM STUPID AND CANT TUNE TO DROP C

[vocal hearth]

Favorite Tuning and scale to play in?

Mines drop a# with Phrygian

[lethal fractal]

E standard tuning with Hungarian minor scale.

Usaly Bb Hungarian minor

[vocal hearth]

Hungarian minor?

[vocal hearth]

I have no clue what that is

That’s evil asf

[lethal fractal]

It's the 4th mode of the double harmonic scale.
It's the same as the harmonic minor scale but with a raised 4th.

Some cool scale degrees in it one of the first darker scales I've learned and just stuck with me

[vocal hearth]

Nice

I’ll try it out

[lethal fractal]

If I want the three notes all being a Semi tone apart vibe and don't want to use the blues scale I tend to go with that scale

[short basalt]

Does anyone have suggestions on how to tune to drop c? I don’t own a tuner so I’ve been trying to use apps but they don’t work that well

[vocal hearth]

https://tuner-online.com/

DO NOT TUNE WITH DISTORTION ON

Change to a clean tone

[short basalt]

Does that work for bass?

Sorry I didn’t clarify

[vocal hearth]

Yeah

As long as it’s not too low

[lethal fractal]

Play a C and use relative pitch to tune

[short basalt]

Yeah, apparently I’ve been in the wrong tuning this whole time, I was supposed to be in Drop C Sharp

[lethal fractal]

You are going to have some floppy strings

[short basalt]

Somewhat got the bass line down

I gave up on tuning cuz I suck balls at tuning

[clear phoenix]

Any tips for getting a good distorted guitar tone for really low tunings (Drop E) because whenever I tune that low my guitar sounds pretty terrible and the sound isn't tight at all

[plain vine]

Umm, gain 11, volume 11 and all eq knobs at 11... But actually though, I think both Andrew Baena and Keyan Houshmand have videos creating tones for low tuned guitars.

In fact both their videos are titled "Your 8 string guitar tone sucks"

[clear phoenix]

thanks

[toxic wharf]

Yeah dont tune that low

[lethal fractal]

Getting the right gear is what it comes down to...

[hoary vector]

anyone tried an rgd? i was planning to get this 7 string used since it has bareknuckles which i never tried before

[lethal fractal]

Good guitar. if you can try it out, before buying it see if you do like it.

[sturdy bloom]

its a great tuning

nice and meaty

[sturdy bloom]

i was gonna watch that but i didn’t want to burn my ego as im only just experimenting more making tones, as i have more of an understanding now

[lethal fractal]

It's underutilized by 90% of the guitarists that play in the tuning

[hoary vector]

Alright it's cus I do have an rg550 and I do like the neck on it. So I will try it out and see. Wanting to play some erra riffs so needing that 7

[lethal fractal]

For sure

[sturdy bloom]

I mean even artificial suicide

literally 90% 0's

but it still slaps

and the majority is in the rythm and synth for the movement

[lethal fractal]

For some it slaps for some it's incredibly boring.

[sturdy bloom]

I mean by no means the most exciting

but not the worst

[plain vine]

Yeah, fair enough. I just recently got a tube amp after using plugins for a while and it's kinda fun twisting the different knobs to make new sounds rather than what I did on plugins, selecting an existing preset and tweaking it slightly. I don't know if any of the tones I'm making are good, but they sound good to me.

And it definetly helps you get an understanding of what each setting changes. I just max one knob at a time and hear what difference it makes (on the plugins and physical amp).

[lethal fractal]

Max them and fully cut them always good ideas when EQing as well.

[sturdy bloom]

I do want a tube

me and the other guitarist like blackstar amps looking at going that way

probably looking at STL for now tho for sims

think he uses the blackstar one off pack on there

[plain vine]

fair enough

[limber lark]

NEW GUITAR DAAAY

[plain vine]

Very nice. Is that the Holcomb signature?

[limber lark]

Yea

The newer model 7 string

[plain vine]

Groovy. I've played my mates one before, It's a solid choice for a guitar.

[open fjord]

Does it have the new Scarlet and Scourge pups? Or the older Alpha Omegas

[plain vine]

My guess is it's the one with magnets and copper wire.

[toxic wharf]

How much dough you dropped on a guitar from which you dont know the pick ups?

[plain vine]

Bruh, I never know the pickups. If it sounds good when I try in the shop then it's good. I think the playability trumps all when buying a guitar, if it's uncomfortable to play then I'm not playing it.

[limber lark]

The Scarlet n Scourgw

The better ones

[toxic wharf]

🤷‍♂️

[short basalt]

In a year or two when I get my next bass

I know I’m probably just going to get an Ibanez 5 string

But at the same time

Thunderbird

Looks cool despite being terrible

[short basalt]

I think the battery on my bass has died, or it needs to be restrung, or I need new amp, or I need a new amp cord

Because the volume and tone no longer changes on the amp

I think it’s the battery or the strings, because the knobs don’t do anything either

[sturdy bloom]

itll be battery then

try a new battery

if that doesnt work get it checked out

strings wouldnt stop the knobs working

I have 2 active guitars now and have had for a while

youll sort of hear at some point when they start to die

and know when they are on their way

[lethal fractal]

Does yours have a passive mode?

[sturdy bloom]

ive just realised i read it wrong

amp not bass

woppsie

[short basalt]

No, I don’t believe so

It’s an ESP B-50

So

[short basalt]

How do I find where the preamp battery is? Do I just unscrew the back of the bass?

[lethal fractal]

Send a Pic of the back

[gritty garden]

Could also be a faulty jack on the guitar.

[short basalt]

that could be what happened, but I think it’s the pre-amp battery

[lethal fractal]

Yes it should be behind there, few screws and you can see.

[short basalt]

The little black panel yeah?

[lethal fractal]

Ya

[short basalt]

Alright, I’ll take that off tomorrow once I have a 9 volt

[lethal fractal]

Phrost brought up a good point about the jack as well.

[short basalt]

Where would I find the Jack?

New to bass anatomy, sorry

[lethal fractal]

What's the bass model again? I'll quickly look into some stuff as well.

Ugh the jack should be accessible where you plug in the bass.
Usally the wiring is in that back cavity, but if it's the jack take it to a shop to replace.

[lethal fractal]

All good.

[short basalt]

ESP-B-50

[lethal fractal]

It's different from brands and models

Thanks

[short basalt]

It’s somewhat modded, I believe the owner swapped out the pickups for PJ pickups but I doubt that makes a difference

[lethal fractal]

The model shouldn't have a battery...

[short basalt]

Huh?

[lethal fractal]

I'll look at some.more stuff just the first thing said no battery

[short basalt]

When I looked it up it said it was an active bass because it has an active pre-amp

[lethal fractal]

Ah it does have a mode, maybe an older model.
Can you send a picture of the front of the body of the bass?

I just want to see the controls

[lethal fractal]

Yea that model you have doesn't have the battery compartment i am seeing on some so possibly you don't have an active circuit, unless it's has been put into that back.

This is what the active seems to look like

[short basalt]

Hm

I’ll still check the back tomorrow

But any other ideas what it might be?

[lethal fractal]

Could just be the older model has it all crammed in.
It's 3am so I'm not great at critical thinking right now haha.

With the battery being dead you should still have sound coming through so if it's no sound that's weird.
It could be the output jack on the bass, the cable, or the input on the amp.
Possibly a battery issue hard to tell right now with my brain,

[short basalt]

Maybe

Idk what the output Jack is, I’ve tried two cables, so you might be right on the amp input

[lethal fractal]

That's your output jack right there

[short basalt]

Ah, the thing you plug the cord into

I might have to take it into a music shop

[lethal fractal]

Would be the best idea, check to see if it has a battery whenever you can or just bring it to a shop tomorrow and ask an employee if they can take a look at it and tell them pretty much everything you have told us and they should be able to help.

I'd recommend looking up even smaller local luthier/smaller shops.
They tend to have less stuff to work on and a small group of very smart people so usaly is cheaper and you get a better end result or it's the same price but you get a much better result then bringing one into a big shop.

Also they sometimes can get the work done faster just depends how busy they are.
Where I find most big shops have a long lineup and even some here ship them across the province to a tech and back which is the worst takes forever.

[short basalt]

Yeah. There’s a local music store near me, I’ll see if I can head down there

[lethal fractal]

Cool

[lethal fractal]

Goodluck hope you get back to playing soon

[lethal fractal]

Funny talking about this I have the replace the jack on my bass and changing the preamp.

Its also a locking jack system so a bit more annoying to replace

[tardy seal]

I think I'm having trouble with making a lead guitar tone and fitting it in the mix. Can anyone help me? I'm using Gojira plugin from Neural DSP. The lead tone and its mix never pleases me.
Example: https://open.spotify.com/track/1RSpayyfVpeceg5KiQdBNo?si=48c10ebf4b2d443f

this is the best tone i've got so far so i had to publish it this way 🤷‍♂️

[forest sapphire]

Just wanted to show these off, it’s a Schecter Omen Active 6 from 2012 and an Ibanez Gio RG131DX

A lot of people think I main the schecter but nope

I love the gio

Putting some lundgren hot heavens in it when I get the chance along with a kill switch

[cosmic wave]

👀

[lethal fractal]

Nice blue

[short basalt]

So

Turns out nothing was broken

I was stupid and had the headphone connector plugged into the amp and didn’t notice

I might have damaged the amp a little bit sadly because I heard a little bit of loud popping

[primal parrot]

Anyone know what amps the archetype plini is based on?

[open fjord]

Amp 1 is based ona Dumble (supposedly), Amp 2 is based on a Friedman BE100, and Amp 3 is based on the Friedman HBE, which essentially the high gain channel of the BE100.

[primal parrot]

Thank you 🙏🙏

[open fjord]

NP!

[lethal fractal]

@short basalt I'm gonna write a demo song today, going to infuse some neo soul chords with some more tasteful lead guitar to send.

I haven't been home last few days so just now able to record something

[short basalt]

Nice

[inner bone]

Play some Dream Theater on this mf

[cosmic wave]

sadly not mine

[inner bone]

Noooooo

Also

My old ass strings tend to break but still survive the big bends

Like im tryna break it so I can restring it

Why is it not breaking?

[lethal fractal]

Just cut it

[open fjord]

You mean the only DT song that uses an 8 string lol

[inner bone]

It’s a 7 string?

[open fjord]

Oh shit it is. My eyes played tricks on me. Whoops XD

[inner bone]

Np