Guitars & Bass

[lethal fractal]

Goodluck

You may want to detune that string

[fervent fox]

Who was it that mentioned wanting a 9 string? Because funny enough somebody is selling a 9 string Legator around my area for a grand!

[lethal fractal]

I got rid of mine

Got that charvel for it with a hard case that's on its way

[fervent fox]

I just thought it was funny. Didn’t think I’d see one show up in my feed but I’m surprised it did lol.

[lethal fractal]

I feel bad for my store to try and sell the thing though I know people around here do want such things so...

[fervent fox]

I’m kinda the same way with my local shop even though it specializes in selling used equipment I don’t think anybody around the area really wants what I’m into

[lethal fractal]

They have manged to sell all my 8 strings I've traded so there is a market

[fervent fox]

The owner seemed hesitant when I showed him the 7 string I wanted sell down the road

But I stick to FB groups and the marketplace if I wanna make a quick buck

Or Reverb if I ever get around to making an account

[lethal fractal]

Yikes

[balmy vortex]

Gear

[lethal fractal]

Yummy

[high tangle]

Sheesh

[sleek zephyr]

Hey folks! Any good string changing tutorials for bass? I want to switch it up but I'm new to doing this and want some help.

[lethal fractal]

What bass do you have?

[sleek zephyr]

Squier P Bass

[lethal fractal]

https://youtu.be/d_Cjz6PkvDo?si=F4odjbeJzgiuYmcX

If you have different tuning pegs I can find something else.

[sleek zephyr]

Those look about right, let me pull it up! Thanks!

Yep, those match. Thanks again!

[lethal fractal]

No worries, if you have any other questions feel free to ask :)

[sleek zephyr]

Not so much about replacing strings this time, but when I drop my bass tuning (drop C# usually), I tend to get some pretty bad... rattle? I guess? I'm not really sure the term, but I'm pretty sure my strings are hitting the frets and vibrating against them, making a harsh metallic buzz of sorts. Does that sound like something I maybe need to modify my plucking technique to avoid?

[lethal fractal]

Thicker strings you strings have to little tension so they flop around, do you know what string gauges you are currently using? As well with thicker strings you may or may not need to modify the nut on the bass.

[sleek zephyr]

I'm not sure to be honest, I got this bass secondhand and don't know much about its history. Is there a way to identify them?

[lethal fractal]

Do you have new strings to put on ATM?

[sleek zephyr]

No, just researching.

[lethal fractal]

Ah okay :)

Do you know if you like your string feels tighter or looser?

Aim for 40-45lbs of tension per string would be good.
https://tension.stringjoy.com/

[sleek zephyr]

I prefer looser generally

[lethal fractal]

Okay, probably something closer to the 40-42 lbs which for C# is a bit weird actually... You could probably get away with 120-50 strings although the high string might feel a bit too loose. It's a lot of trial and error I find getting the right strings.

120-55 gauge strings would probably be best

[sleek zephyr]

Sounds good! I'll play around with the calculator a bit and also just keep doing some research.

[lethal fractal]

120-55 would be your best bet for C# (just realized it's drop C# not C# standard)

[lethal fractal]

Play with the calculator and then try to find strings that match what you think will be good, you can always order just custom strings.

[sleek zephyr]

I appreciate your help so much!

[lethal fractal]

No worries always around to give my insights.

[balmy vortex]

New arrivals

[lethal fractal]

The biggest complaint the harp head. Pretty guitars

[balmy vortex]

Lmaaoo

[balmy vortex]

More new stuff

[lethal fractal]

I will never like those headstocks but thats a cool pattern

[balmy vortex]

New arrival

[lethal fractal]

For me

[balmy vortex]

For 5600€ yes

[lethal fractal]

Hmm I could get a more basic Aristides for that. We will see

[lethal fractal]

https://youtu.be/b4j9mFm4Uw4?si=YIef-HkaeoSvtf-q

This is super neat

[dire kayak]

I made the irresponsible purchase of an mxr custom shop pedal with no knowledge of the circuit other than a switch of drive/od and standard three drive knobs

i guess we'll see how it sounds in a bit

was only 50 bucks though

and then an earthquaker Acapulco for just an ok deal

[past jolt]

sorry if this is the wrong place to ask

anybody using ultimate guitar here ? i really need a tab
but the tab is blocked in my country so i cant download it can anybody help please ?
song: Inferi-Those who from heavens came

[dire kayak]

i can maybe look it up later

is it just blocked in your country though

some people don't allow any tabs on ultimate guitar

polyphia blocks all stuff so you can pay 10 bucks for it on their website

they fear people that can learn by ear

[past jolt]

i dont even know man im just asking if it's blocked for everyone

[dire kayak]

it probably is

see the polyphia example

[past jolt]

https://tabs.ultimate-guitar.com/tab/inferi/those-who-from-the-heavens-came-guitar-pro-1704732

[dire kayak]

can't look it up rn, on Mobile

I'll be home in 6 hours I can check the

then

[past jolt]

yeah

[lethal fractal]

There is nothing, already had let you know... It has been removed

[past jolt]

yeah bro im just tryna check if it's the case all around the world

[lethal fractal]

Yes, it isnt that its blocked it has been removed

"Sorry, this artist has told us we can't show this tab."

[past jolt]

yeaa..

[lethal fractal]

That is from them

[past jolt]

im just thinking

if

it's worth 29 dollars

to buy tabs for whole album

[lethal fractal]

I got a few tab books from my fav bands... I would say it is not worth it if you are just going to learn the one song.

[past jolt]

i bought nik nocturnal patreon membership for just one song ahaha

now i just got 15 gb of tab folder which is filled with metalcore songs

[dire kayak]

does anyone know some good neoclassical type guitar artists, other than of course yngwie

[lethal fractal]

Angle Vivaldi

[lethal fractal]

Check out scale the summit you may like them

[dire kayak]

alright

[gleaming wing]

I learned the opening riff to Another Place by Demon Hunter

[dire kayak]

they're pretty cool, more like prog but still awesome

thanks for the recommendation

[lethal fractal]

Yea

[dire kayak]

how did u find them

[lethal fractal]

Just always looking for music I found another new prog artist today

[dire kayak]

unrelated but I'm reading a book on music theory and got completely lost or lost my motivation when I saw the term poly chords

[lethal fractal]

Why?

That's just the start of the good stuff

[lethal fractal]

https://youtube.com/shorts/ywxkYaMM7DM?si=ykLah3JLFnP_x0Yr

[lethal fractal]

https://youtube.com/shorts/dZsOOgbW-Ok?si=MbHBngIvMKfeerLI

Have fun all

[ancient path]

you ever kinda accidentally steal a riff?

[toxic wharf]

Yeah just revise it a bit and voila, new riff

[balmy vortex]

Yes, the godfather theme

[wind mauve]

me playing 5 8 7 instead of 5 7 8

[ancient path]

dudes gonna put a horse head in my bed

[balmy vortex]

[toxic wharf]

Yep

[lethal fractal]

I've done it with archspire riffs way to much 😂

[toxic wharf]

If you buy new pickups for a guitar does it come with a pickup selector n shit?

[lethal fractal]

No just pickups, unless it specifically says it comes with a the selecter but I've never seen that happen

[toxic wharf]

Dammit

[lethal fractal]

You can use the switch and pots the guitar usually has or order a new switch if your new pickups would use one, the pots usually are fine unless they are cheap mine as well replace them.

[toxic wharf]

I want the tim henson lick ups but then ill need a 10 way switch

Or a 5 way switch and push/pull controll knob

I think it works that way

[toxic wharf]

Hahaaaa too bad for you my strings dont tune to e standard

[lethal fractal]

You don't need any of that to use the pickups... you can use a 3 way switch you just won't get all the features. Although it can be nice to have everything but in the end you really are using only 2 of 3 selections anyways.

Doesn't mean you can just order the parts and put them in, if you are willing to save for Tim's pickups what's a little bit more so you can use them fully.

[dry parrot]

is it just me that loves the bass for black sheep

its pretty simple but it sounds so nice

or the song in general

i might attempt a cover but i cant sing at all

i can program drums though

[lethal fractal]

https://open.spotify.com/track/49fTxURuKeFsBJfoK71AaM?si=2e03NyvKTsqRnlT2QhvIYw&context=spotify%3Aalbum%3A5L9ddlTFtgLj93nzy77MEO

When I think of bass I think of this song my favorite bass in a song

If you do a cover ping me, I'd be interested in listening

[storm mulch]

Anyone got some good Ibanez guitars with whammy bars in the 400-700$ range

[wind mauve]

there's a few iirc

[dry parrot]

you're thinking of people that play bass

im a guitar player with an 80 dollar bass

[lethal fractal]

No I'm thinking of bass tone and rhythm :)

[lethal fractal]

Hehe ya

[dry parrot]

i actually got an ok tone out of this one i think

[storm mulch]

I’m what world did you find a 80 dollar base

[dry parrot]

and 5 strings

[lethal fractal]

Nothing "good" but it would be alright

[dry parrot]

ive got this ibanez rg thats pretty nice

[storm mulch]

That’s fine with me

[storm mulch]

What’s the guitar model I’m interested

[lethal fractal]

$700usd?

[lethal fractal]

Amazon

[storm mulch]

Yea

[dry parrot]

my rg or the bass

[storm mulch]

Yoru rg

[dry parrot]

its on the lower end, like 400 bucks

[storm mulch]

Your*

[dry parrot]

let me find the name

[lethal fractal]

Just find something that does not have the GIO on it there QC went to ass never been good but yea...

Find a non gio

Plenty out there

[storm mulch]

Got it

[dry parrot]

Ibanez RGAR42MFMT Standard
is the name

i think

its stock pickups sound good for a lower end guitar

and it stays in tune pretty well unless you absolutely abuse the tremolo

[storm mulch]

Btw since I’m here anyone got good electro acoustic recommendations

[storm mulch]

I’ll check it out

After all I can just modify the pickups to whatever I prefer after all

[lethal fractal]

The one I'm selling

[wind mauve]

bro's hawkin rn

khajit has wares if you have coin

[dry parrot]

recently discovered the dunlop flow picks, they're actually pretty nice

pretty similar to the jazz 3s but a little bigger, but still smaller than a standard pick

and nice and wide for a good grip

[lethal fractal]

I've been back to playing my wooden pick

[wind mauve]

i use ernie ball prodigy

i like that they're thicker

[dire kayak]

i used to love the prodigy picks until discovering the better rounded and slightly thinner petrucci signatures

from there I've been experimenting more

I've mostly settled for petrucci jazz 3s, theyve got a nice grip, and the 1.14 Dunlop flow

[dire kayak]

which wood

[lethal fractal]

Rose wood if I remember correctly

[dire kayak]

I'm alsocurious as to how the type of wood affects the flexibility and tendency to break

not break but like wear down or flake off

[lethal fractal]

How the wood wears down?

[dire kayak]

I'd figured it can splinter too, but I could be wrong

[lethal fractal]

Definitely won't splinter I mean depends on the wood but a good sanding and finish it won't splinter... this is with a lot of playing since Christmas I've been playing it heavily took a break for 2 weeks pulled it back out. It's mostly finish wear more then anything and it's starts to get worn in then toughen up as it gets used nice thing about them you can sand them back down into a new shape if you wear it down enough obviously don't have to but I honestly might, I really like the feeling of wood in a guitar pick and how they play it feels really smooth and I don't like flex I just lossen my grip if I want to strum more and what not...

I have picks that I destroy the tips of in a single recording session and they loose there feeling still play okay but not the same... I found with the wood the thickness let's it wear down and adapt to how you pick so it glides with the strings you play

[dire kayak]

I see

so for now I'll still with my plastic

I was just wondering if it's far superior in durability

maybe once I lose all my current ones I try wood

anyways a recent thought i had

can the headphone jack of my amp go into an interface and then an ir

[lethal fractal]

I would say 100% but that depends on the wood... I mean get a metal pick if you want durability

[dire kayak]

I have a metal one too gritty sounding

[lethal fractal]

Yea I don't like the sound haha

[dire kayak]

what do you think

or will my interface explode if i take the 8 ohm output from my amp into it

[lethal fractal]

I would say yes but I'm not going to say do that in case it messes up something... I forget how my buddy runs his amps into his IR thingy then into his computer I'll ask

[dire kayak]

oh ok cool

I'm just wanting to try different speakers with current amp

[lethal fractal]

You could do it yes but it might ruin things

He has a two note IR system

[dire kayak]

well I can try it, see if it blows up something

[lethal fractal]

It's nice but I forget how it works

[dire kayak]

the headphone jack should be lower output

much lower

[lethal fractal]

Check you amps details

[dire kayak]

maybe too low is my main worry

[lethal fractal]

Can always turn the gain up

[dire kayak]

im debating between learning amberdawn or requiem by yngwie

first I should finish the two I'm currently learning though

cliffs of Dover and Paganinis 5th Caprice

[lethal fractal]

I'm learning a Martians winter by angle Vivaldi and starting Electric sunrise by Plini. Archspire has been put on hold.

Why not learn both ;)

[dire kayak]

cliffs of Dover is a lot easier than people say

the Caprice is much harder than it sounds

[dire kayak]

i love electric sunrise

[lethal fractal]

It's great.

[dire kayak]

send it here once u finish and polish it

would love to hear it

I'll listen to martians winter

later again

rn I'm going through yngwie s discography

trying to learn a song each from the legends that inspire ms

of

[lethal fractal]

I found this guy today makes some interesting stuff

https://open.spotify.com/track/3GfL2Ktmxfi8jOBSbkyPbr?si=hrY_rHvcQrOatzoN7QoOCw&context=spotify%3Aalbum%3A4SIBydrBiGTuDiZMqoQFhY

[lethal fractal]

100%

[lethal fractal]

Possibly

[dire kayak]

i don't have the attention span to finish and polish a song

i was determined to perfect tornado of souls

until I stumbled upon the end lick

impossible

broke my spirits

and now I just jump from one half learned thing to another

but I'm sticking with the Caprice because it's easy enough

it's hard but it's all easy enough to speed up with practice

[lethal fractal]

I am starting a solo project got 2 songs underway currently hoping to get 3 albums 3 and a half hour long out by the end of next year. Then a duo project which will be fun.

Keep playing and working on your skills and you will be able to learn as you wish

[dry parrot]

i just changed strings on my floyd rose guitar and it was way easier than it should've been

maybe its bc this time i kept track of the strings i used

i also tried this trick to change them quickly with questionable tuning stability

[lethal fractal]

Get a trem block if you do not have one

Also wow the intro to this song is so simple to play but is soooooooo pretty

[dire kayak]

I use a cloth and a wrench which works

[lethal fractal]

At least you got something haha

[dire kayak]

i also tried a trick from I think Steve Vais guitar tech where he puts the little wound ball thingy at the tuner, and cuts the string at the bridge

really quick and also like I said questionable tuning

[lethal fractal]

Yea

[gritty garden]

Just makes me want the Limited Edition Sonic or Shadow LTD

[wind mauve]

the what

[fervent fox]

Good tastes

[wind mauve]

WHAT

good thing those are all six strings

my dumbass could probably have been convinced

[severe flume]

Got new flats

[fervent fox]

Ngl the way they’re packaged like that made me think they were really from the 1960s

[severe flume]

Yeah they went fully on that 60s vibe

[lethal fractal]

Nice

Send demos if possible

Mic seems a bit far away but that could just be the amp

Ah alright

Time to get a mic stand

[severe flume]

Why so?

Eh 105s are great

[lethal fractal]

This sounds like a Nokia ring tone, tone but if that's not the mic for it then yea... also I'm not listening on headphones or anything so

Yea miking amps is a whole new thing

It will sound different in the room then in the recording

[wind mauve]

im wearing headphones it's pretty rough

[lethal fractal]

Yea

[wind mauve]

i would worry less about mics and more about investing in an amp worth recording tbh

[lethal fractal]

^

[wind mauve]

[lethal fractal]

What amp you using to record?

Throwing out the window at unexpected people

[wind mauve]

ok that is significantly better yes

[lethal fractal]

Just use the same amp

Two recordings

They use a cheap amp as the second?

[wind mauve]

hey man your bass sounds kinda like a guitar

get that new ibanez

the basstar thing

https://youtu.be/bIJ1oUnBbkc?si=YbKOnO8qWCLIMRHU

[open fjord]

https://youtu.be/G-1CGqdrIh0?si=iMNoL-7r7PUPOsoJ

[lethal fractal]

It's a guitar an octave down... so 4 string bass low

For sure

I love both

Sold my basses though don't play anymore but want to get into it more

[dire kayak]

how is it different from a baritone

[wind mauve]

bass scale length and string gauge with bass pickups and the onboard EQ dials like a lot of mid-to-high range basses tend to have

did you watch the video

[lethal fractal]

Some baritones have a bass scale length. Though yea bass pickups and the EQ and what not...

[dire kayak]

only saw the thumbnail I'll watch the video later

[wind mauve]

why did you ask then....

[wispy flint]

is guitar center usually not good?

my gf ordered me a guitar as a late xmas gift and it was supposed to get to her sometime this month, but they randomly cancelled the order and did not notify her, nor did they refund her

which i think could be illegal lol

[lethal fractal]

I mean it's usually fine...

[fervent fox]

Here’s a better interpretation:

Guitar Center = Walmart

[balmy vortex]

rofl

[balmy vortex]

its alright, definitely not great

[wispy flint]

interesting

so i guess this is just a unique blunder that we got unlucky with

which is unfortunate

[lethal fractal]

It's nothing special but it's better then Amazon

[fervent fox]

Stick with local shops like mom & pop joints or if you’re buying online try zZounds and Sweetwater!

[lethal fractal]

You did get unlucky

[lethal fractal]

^

[fervent fox]

Fair warning though be careful of “boutique” shops
Superior instruments and equipment….scary prices

[wind mauve]

me walking into the mom & pop shop looking for a seven string fanned fret

[dire kayak]

usually fine, weird issue

[balmy vortex]

Smh, should've said axe palace. Have I not conditioned y'all enough to be our free advertisement?

[balmy vortex]

AP will have your back

[lethal fractal]

I talk about your place a lot to friends in Europe haha

[balmy vortex]

Except we have two stores

One in Boston on in Amsterdam

[lethal fractal]

Oh cool

Well I'm going to the one in Amsterdam

[balmy vortex]

I know that

[lethal fractal]

Already got everything setup where we are staying and what not we are hoping next summer

Well good to know you have two stores I can now browse

[balmy vortex]

[lethal fractal]

At least once to twice I week a just see what's there not like it matters as it's all going to be sold by the time I get there haha but some nice stuff

[storm mulch]

Guitar center is usually fine even tho it gets memed a lot

[wispy flint]

yeah we got it resolved

had a dope employee

[storm mulch]

That’s good to hear

[wispy flint]

we all love andrew

[storm mulch]

Also nice pfp I love gir

Usually Any guitar center has a cool ass employee

One of the employees I had the pleasure of meeting made a bet that he could make a harder breakdown that I could

Safe to say I was 5 dollars poorer

[wind mauve]

im not entering the netherlands for any reason

fool me once

[balmy vortex]

We have a store in boston as well smh

[wispy flint]

danke danke

[wind mauve]

i am not shipping up to boston way-ay-oh anytime soon

but i will keep it in mind

[wind mauve]

one of the employees at my local long & mcquade is in a metal band and opened for archspire once

[storm mulch]

That’s sick as fuck what😭

For archspire too

[balmy vortex]

I know a few who have as well.

[storm mulch]

Bro y’all have sick employees what

All I got was my money taken away cause I lost a bet from the employees

[balmy vortex]

Well, more customers that I work for

[storm mulch]

Oh damn

Lucky

[balmy vortex]

I need to start a list with all the metal celebrities I've met

[fervent fox]

Walpole?

[balmy vortex]

Yup

[fervent fox]

I live an hour and 28 minutes away

[lethal fractal]

80% of our workers are metal heads or appreciate the music most of them have played with some cool bands

[lethal fractal]

Give us a test when you can

[lethal fractal]

Definitely getting better blending the mics will be nice and just obviously more setting up

I'm intrigued to see what the final tone you come up with is

Tones*

I don't miss miking amps haha

You can get a lot better with what you now have.

[zenith crystal]

bassists! for about 3 hours i (a guitarist) have been trying to learn slap bass and i just wanna check if my technique is alright before i start any bad habits

[lethal fractal]

I slap with a different part of my thumb, though it is mostly personal preference when it comes to slap bass. Less big movements and more fluid movements but that just comes with time and practice.

Then you can be Charles

^

More stability helps not need such big hand movements because it's tighter and more supported

[zenith crystal]

thanks i've taken it on board and its already sounding a bit tighter

[lethal fractal]

I play just thumb more up or middle can't play down but that's always up to the person, keep playing and learning.

That's always the best to keep playing

Yeah slap is a very personal thing

Yep

Playing an instrument is always personal

[odd coyote]

I’m considering gettin a guitar from like £700-900 Range and I’m not sure what to get. Most the stuff I play is like Drop C to Drop A on my current 6 string. mainly play like metalcore and Deathcore stuff any suggestions?

Considering Jackson and Ibanez as the main two brands tho

[lethal fractal]

I'd go with ibanez out of the two... Then try stuff out at stores.

[patent sierra]

got my first bass guitar today!

[wind mauve]

that wood looks pretty tasty

is what i would say if i was like a beaver or something

i'm not tho

[patent sierra]

i've also never heard of the Alba before

[wind mauve]

me neither

[odd coyote]

I saw an iron label one for like £800 I might see if they have it at the big guitar store near where I am

Altho I gotta get the train smh 💀 London issues

[lethal fractal]

I live in a different london all londons got issues haha

[odd coyote]

LOL

[lethal fractal]

Be good though to have a day you take the train to a big store and just try stuff

[odd coyote]

Yeah

I’m on my shadow of intent arc rn

[lethal fractal]

Alright I need everyone's big big massive brains to help me, throw at me every guitar you can think of that's within the 1,100-1,450 USD all I need is 6 or 7 strings with a whammy and locking tuners I want to look at stuff to replace a guitar with. Something to play prog metal with

[zenith crystal]

Know a guy who had to get a sitar from London to Woking on the train once, so anything’s possible if you try

[odd coyote]

Yeah

It’s not that bad tbh

I’ve seen some guitars I like but like

Idk I ain’t been to a guitar store before.

I defo need to get thicker picks tho. I only got a 0.95mm one for mine rn and it’s just not it

[lethal fractal]

New guitar day

[dire kayak]

fenders always solid

unlike a different particular brand that still has frequent finish issues

[lethal fractal]

Usually

[wind mauve]

that uncooked chicken breast pink 🔥

[lethal fractal]

That's even more the case for the guitar haha

[balmy vortex]

Bogner

[balmy vortex]

Mayones

[wind mauve]

paint it green call it a frogner

got an email from nDSP advertising their other plugins…

[lethal fractal]

Got that too

[wind mauve]

you can really see the similarities between the Fortin Nameless and the Morgan Amps Suite

[lethal fractal]

Most of them become the same if you know how to use them. Lots of overlap

[wind mauve]

ok but morgan amps and fortin amps are not the same

one is what meshuggah uses and one is a vintage clean and edge-of-breakup amp

[toxic wharf]

Depends...Tosin uses a morgan for all of his tones currently

Its just that Neural is a bit of a scam imo. They should allow to switch pedals between their plugins for instance

Im sure a lot of those amps can sound similar. Especially in the digital realm

[lethal fractal]

Can't you have two open turning off the pedals in one and everything else off in the other?

[toxic wharf]

Yes

It eats CPU but you can

[lethal fractal]

Yea true...

[severe flume]

Finally changed my strings

[dry parrot]

that looks a lot like my first bass guitar but it just has a string less

[patent sierra]

Current guitar collection

[wind mauve]

luckily my CPU is the only competent part of my rig lol

[gentle ore]

Hey so I wanna get started on guitar. I’ve had my guitar for like a year but I’ve finally got the motivation to actually start learning. Any tips?

[digital mesa]

Follow something like Justin Guitar's lessons (https://www.justinguitar.com/) to properly learn how to play and/or get an app like Rocksmith or Yousician to play along to songs to have more immediate fun, but risk getting bad habits and taking more time to learn techniques, etc

[gentle ore]

Thanks I’ll definitely give this a go

[digital mesa]

Getting a teacher and/or going the tabs route is also valid, but more costly/likely less fun

[gentle ore]

Yeah moneys a bit tight so I’m looking for that online route

[digital mesa]

Then, yeah, Justin guitar is a good bet

[gentle ore]

Thxs again

[digital mesa]

No problem!

[dry parrot]

you sound like an advertisement

[digital mesa]

I am, I get 10% from Ubisoft and 30% from Justin

The Yousician reference was a red herring

[dry parrot]

i just had a big realiziation

the reason my 7 string sounds muddy and drop c doesnt might be pickups

and not bad tone on my plugins

the jackson stock pickups probably arent great

[wind mauve]

https://tenor.com/view/hes-beginning-to-believe-beginning-to-believe-gif-20824301

[lethal fractal]

Getting this polymath soon

[wind mauve]

lemme know how it sounds i also want polymath pickups

[lethal fractal]

From all my friends who have them they love them. But I will as well.

[wind mauve]

if i do get that jackson which is looking highly likely

it'll probably want fishmans

but also i dont think it comes with a battery compartment

[lethal fractal]

For the singles I'm thinking about the triptych

[wind mauve]

so it might be cheaper overall to get passive pickups instead of having a battery slot added to the guitar

[lethal fractal]

Yea

[wind mauve]

altho iirc it do cost extra to get a fanned fret pickup model cause they gotta slant it

or whatever

idk we'll see what the finances look like once i actually start working next month

[lethal fractal]

For sure

[open fjord]

https://youtu.be/1ONWzpIfTdE?si=nVEiwh_8NRXDRkMy

[lethal fractal]

Guitar

[open fjord]

I'm down with affordable Strandbergs.

Or MORE affordable ones.

The only ones doing decent affordable headless guitars is Ibanez currently.

[lethal fractal]

As long as the keep the QC fine and keep using quality materials it will be great...

[open fjord]

Actually those Q series Ibani fuck.

They fuck hard.

Those are the headless ones.

Speaking of headless.

Weren't Schecter currently prototyping some?

[lethal fractal]

I'd disagree... they are nice and all of that but Indonesian ibby QC is 50/50 and the headless has so much proprietary hardware...

[lethal fractal]

Don't keep up with shecter they probably are.

[lethal fractal]

I was looking to order one but to many issues down the line

[open fjord]

This is true about the proprietary hardware. That said, I've not seen any QC issues in any of them.

At least in my experience.

[dry parrot]

i wonder how G D G D G B E tuning would play, would probaly need to write down the adjusted scales

but then the 7th/5th and 6th/4th strings both make perfect octaves

i love the sound of simultaneous octaves personally, maybe its just because of that one song by gojira thats stuck in my head

ive been trying to play some riffs with drop g and thought maybe i can tune the 4th string back up but then it gives me a headache to think of stuff mentally and im lazy to write stuff down

[dire hamlet]

yo. its certainly been a while. i have the skills, tools, & experience to build my own bodies (and no, i am not selling them) (also i make them out of nz native wood, usually recycled matai (gives them a slightly different tone and its bloody tough)). for my next project, i'm gonna build a weird guitar, but hear me out: P90s for the neck pickup rout (i love p90 tones), and a humbucker (trembucker pozzy cause i've got a floyd rose lying around.) thinking of going for a jag shape, or a hybrid strat (its got a tele control panel instead of a strat one, and it looks sick. (oh yeah, pickup combo is S-D AH-metal fatigue (Bridge) & fishman Fluence Signature Series Greg Koch Gristle-Tone P90 Pickup (Neck)). but the shape is the main thing. can i hear some opinions on which body shape would be COOLER, because they're both equally comfortable for me

I found a damaged jackson king v (the fins must've got damaged in shipping and the neck had a few paint scratches and i might have to replace some of the fret wire) out the back of a music warehouse but other than that the neck was in tact so using that cause truss rods are a pain in the arse to install

[lethal fractal]

Truss rods aren't that bad to install... I think jags look absolutely awful but that comes down to personal preferences, I'd go with the more strat style.

[dire kayak]

go with strat style, and also please don't spend more on specific tonewood, you can build a guitar out of plywood and it'll sound the same with the same pickup

in the room acoustically it'll sound different but anything going into the amp or interface will sound the same

but I've seen strats with tele bridges they look pretty cool and unique

[toxic wharf]

Tonewood makes some difference. The airguitar video has been refuted somewhat. Stop taking the words from Glenn Fricker as the holy grail.

Will it make a huge difference? No, but before you said pickups do neither.

Will different woods sound 'better'? Probably not, but it does color tone in some ways. Id say the fretboard is more impactful than the body

[lethal fractal]

Enter acoustic guitar tone wood
Tone wood matters more when it comes to clean tones and more the sustain of a guitar. I can tell you plywood guitars do not have good sustain at all... metal pickgaurds vs plastic as well can colour your guitar is a specific way. Does EQ and production and all of that in the end for distorted music make the biggest difference probably. Most of my friends for metal like pretty flat response pickups that are super clear so they can edit the tone how every they want.

[lethal fractal]

This is just fully wrong, I mean even the same guitar change a pickup it will sound different change the pickup selection it will sound different

[toxic wharf]

Bruh..Im even going further. If you really cant hear any difference between a guitar made from mahogany vs a guitar made from basswood, your ear just isnt really good

[lethal fractal]

The air guitar also just isn't an air guitar... Not to mention 80% of people are listening on a phone speaker which just I mean are garbage when it comes to picking out differences still very possible and it's there but not like good monitors or headphones iems...

[dire kayak]

i meant same pickup with different woods, theres been numerous tests showing tonewood makes hardly any change for an electric. pickups also change tone across cleans, it's also a minor change but much more so than tonewood

[lethal fractal]

It's not a minor change for cleans either

Tonewood makes the change it's supposed to; you can definitely tell a difference. Is it what people build their tone off of? Yes and no, depending on the person.
I mean, what Don said: "If you really can't hear any difference between a guitar made from mahogany versus a guitar made from basswood, your ear just isn't very good."

I new pickup for clean tones is a very big change less for distorted tones but still a change.

[dire kayak]

tonewood makes a difference in the room, what you hear acoustically, record identical guitars with different tonewood it's the same played back over recording

[lethal fractal]

Tonewood makes a difference in recordings as well.
Let's also not mention in that air guitar vidoe every single guitar with a different body sounded different.

[dire kayak]

would like to clarify talking about electric guitar

[lethal fractal]

So am i

For the cleans stuff I have played the same guitar with probably near 7 different pickups clean and sounds very different.

Even distorted

As I even mentioned people change the pickgaurd material to colour their tone differently.

[dire kayak]

you've recorded each of those with matched height and adjusted pots to sound similar?

[lethal fractal]

Might as well adjust the whole amp to get the same tone... All that was changed was the pickups and the volume to keep it the same, nothing else. Played straight through the amp into an IR loader and into headphones.

[dire kayak]

my argument then is why get new pickups if you can get the same tonrs with a cheaper one

[lethal fractal]

Because you can't... You can get similar tones but even with heavy EQ and all of that the signal is going to be different the pickups will be EQed differently.
The pickups are doing something similar to a microphone creating that signal... Each microphone with be EQed differently that's why people will use different microphones or different pickups, amplifiers, speakers....

Different magnets, the amount of winds how thick the wire is, single, double or triple coil... Active or passive every pickup is different and in responses will have a different output and pickup different frequencies at different levels or responsiveness.

If you really want to start getting into it each note, vibrates at specific frequency and have specific overtones you can change the level of those overtones using specific materials... It doesn't change the note but will change the tonal colour

[open fjord]

https://youtu.be/-WFX-rziJ_k?si=U7YL3Hg5I7FqT8p6

[dire kayak]

aorry for no response I've been in class

so

[lethal fractal]

All good

[dire kayak]

for the tonewood I'll send a video later that shows how little a difference it makes

i figured that has been disproved a while ago though

but I think the main argument is in a mix how little change it makes

for pickups

those absolutely make a change, the issue I have is that it's such a minor change across many of them, and it may not be worth hundreds if you can get really close through eq

my main point that should be taken as the overall point of all this:

you can buy many things that make changes to your guitar, but it's important to weigh how much of a change it makes compared to the cost of the component

especially when you can come pretty damn close through eq

[lethal fractal]

And you do have to weigh the differences and for some it isn't worth it and for others it very well is.
As well it isn't just about tone it's about the clarity as well. There are other things that add as well which can make it worth it as well as stylistic choices and looks things that don't matter to the music and many of the audience members but to the player.

Some people are okay with even just using a single coil for metal or an acoustic as they don't care about what they sound like they just want to learn there favorite songs... Then there are people who have there desired tone and music they play.
I know musicians the will get instruments that have specific tonal properties for even a duet so both the instruments overtones are as in tune as possible.

[toxic wharf]

Its pretty simple: you put a PAF in a mahogany body, its simply sounding different from a guitar with different wood with the same EQ settings.

[lethal fractal]

Yep

[lethal fractal]

His argument though is you can change the EQ... Though then you run into different thing.

[dire kayak]

have you got a video or audio for proof, preferably one not by a company trying to sell you something

I'll listen on my studio monitors at home

https://youtu.be/Eac9ctVTGnI?si=0tOczZvYhbq8Jzda
here's a 10 min video you might find interesting, but listen to all of it rather than skipping through and taking it out of context

[toxic wharf]

I know this video and this stuff has been disproven

[lethal fractal]

Yea lmao

[toxic wharf]

At least the whole 'tonewood doesnt matter' its completely BS, since it just doesnt make sense by the law of physics

[lethal fractal]

Yep

[toxic wharf]

Glenn Fricker talks out of his ass 80% off the time anyway. Theres some good stuff for beginners but he has very unnuanced takes and just yells his opinions as facts and this is one of those things

[lethal fractal]

He's good for wrestling fans

[toxic wharf]

The argument that the whole thing surrounding the things that pick up the sound has no effect is just a weird, nonsensical statement

[lethal fractal]

Not to mention in his vidoes they sound different

[dire kayak]

in some of them he changes a mic or speaker and says so afterwards, which is why it shouldn't be taken out of context

[lethal fractal]

Huh?

[dire kayak]

he's conducted pretty valid tests

[dire kayak]

for example clip one in the one I posted

he changes the mic, and says wow that was a big difference, but I changed the mic or smth

[lethal fractal]

Bro at the end of the one pickup vidoe he actually does a "proper" just pickup test and it sounds completely different

[dire kayak]

which one I'll give it a listen

at home on monitors

[toxic wharf]

Nah

[lethal fractal]

Yea instead of doing a pickup test he plays around like a little kid...

[toxic wharf]

A scientific paper

Enjoy

[dire kayak]

he was making the point that speakers mic and mic position matter much more than pickups

[dire kayak]

will you watch the tonewood video with an open mind

[toxic wharf]

Just read the paper

Or at least the conclusions

[lethal fractal]

I've already watched many of his vidoes

[dire kayak]

I'll read this paper when I get a min

[toxic wharf]

And be done with it

[lethal fractal]

I've watched them so I know what I'm talking about...

[toxic wharf]

Glenn Fricker has to make youtube money cause hes not a great producer because apparently his ear isnt that good

[lethal fractal]

He's old

[toxic wharf]

There simply are differences between different types of wood...it makes no sense, just by sheer logic alone it wont affect the tone

[lethal fractal]

Good paper

Sustain as well is big difference

Between woods

[wind mauve]

flavour and smell is also dependant on wood

or so im told

by people that eat wood

[lethal fractal]

You eat wood

[wind mauve]

no

[toxic wharf]

Yes and construction has a big effect on that well

I feel like its people who cant or dont want to spend a lot of money on a guitar have very strong opinions about aspects that 'dont make a difference'

[lethal fractal]

I mean it can go the other way as well.

People who have all the money in the world will add diamonds to the inlays saying it makes a night to day difference

In the end everything makes a difference, even the humidity in the air.

[toxic wharf]

True but thats a strawman. People who spend 2000 dollars on a guitar generally do so with experience in the back and careful consideration

[lethal fractal]

Yes it is straw man haha

[toxic wharf]

After having played that 300 dollar gio and probably some other guitars along the way

[lethal fractal]

Yea

I got another guy in another server saying his open 9 string tuning sounds good strumming with heavy distorted tones... I was just like low interval limit he said spread chords lol

He has never sent anything proving him right

[balmy vortex]

Everything that's one the guitar has effect on the sound of one.

It's the combination of everything specifically

pickups, woods, construction, dryness of said wood. your signal chain and a fuck ton more

[wind mauve]

how many bites you've taken out of it as well

[lethal fractal]

Yep

[lethal fractal]

Well on the topic of pickups and what not ordered my polymath

I should put it in my gio

[gleaming wing]

Hey I like my gio

They are amazing guitars for the money you spend on them

[wind mauve]

finally someone talking some sense

[lethal fractal]

For the money sure... As a guitar no. I like playing mine when I'm bored after fret work and what not it feels fine.

[dire hamlet]

I have to spend money on ply, but not on Matai, cause I've got a huge amount of old matai floorboards under my house

[lethal fractal]

I would be interested to see the finish you go for, as well how thick are the floor boards? Don't want to glue abounch of thin ones together and just make a rock that doesn't vibrate.

Matai is a really pretty wood

[dry parrot]

cant argue with that

[lethal fractal]

Nope haha
Glenn has had many things shown that he doesn't really test his gear he kinda just says what he feels... I have had a chat about him with a mod from this server and abunch of people who used to broadcast the president speak back when they needed that sorta techy person that has now moved into music and that sort of nerd realm after retirement and plenty of very smart musicians who just agree he's not a good form of education entertainment for some sure but education meh. It's like paty mayo or however his name is spelt a lot of people think his stuff is real but it's not.

[dry parrot]

well yeah obviously go with what works for you, i was saying it shouldnt be a priority to go out of your way for a particular wood

even though it does appear to have some effect

something cool i saw at a wood supply store was purpleheart that would look cool for a guitar

if i ever build a guitar i might wanna try that

[dire hamlet]

gonna go for a glossy cream solid, then do a relicing job to match the vibe of the rest of the build, however i do think a burst would look good as well, but thats a bit harder to pull off

[wind mauve]

holy run on sentence batman

bro just did a sweep picking exercise with words

[lethal fractal]

Not worth adding the grammar; it won't make much of a difference. It's already been brought up to him a bunch.

[wind mauve]

i mean the main difference is that i read it at 7am shortly after waking up and nearly died

i do get what you're tryna say tho

anyways back to guitars my local long & mcquade has a multiscale schecter 7 of some variety that i didn't stay long enough to examine thoroughly might have to go back and do that today

also i might get more coffee before i do that

[lethal fractal]

Is it good looking at least?

[lethal fractal]

That sounds more like a skill issue then anything

[wind mauve]

its the one that's black and has red

like marks on it?

i'll get a picture if i can

[wind mauve]

i listen to deathcore i can't read ok

[lethal fractal]

so 99% of schecters lmao
I think I got to many friends who get super drunk and talk to me about flying sushi that I could read anything

[wind mauve]

sushi doesn't fly that's stupid

it's fish

it swims

[wind mauve]

ye but specifically this one is a multiscale 7 that is primarily black

[lethal fractal]

Sushi is a type of food or am i going crazy

[lethal fractal]

alright

[wind mauve]

it's also a super strat shape if that helps

has a headstock too

strings

[lethal fractal]

hmm

Flying sushi guitar

[lethal fractal]

Reverse head oir no

[wind mauve]

actually not sure

[patent sierra]

hung my bass today

[wind mauve]

minecraft pickaxe goes hard 🔥

[patent sierra]

I know bro!

[wind mauve]

@lethal fractal so the schecter i was talking about is a used schecter c-7 silver mountain

[lethal fractal]

Ah one of those

[wind mauve]

it was slick actually

i really liked it even with the glossy neck

played it on a mesa badlands

[lethal fractal]

I don't get the glossy neck hates... They are fine and can feel great on some guitars

[wind mauve]

they'

re

sticky

makes it feel weird to move my hand across

yeah this the one

at an almost $800 discount too

[lethal fractal]

I'll never think it's a good looking guitar. You thinking about getting it?

[wind mauve]

i thought it was kinda hot actually

but yeah my dad suggested i could ask about doing instalment payments cause by the time i start working fulltime next month it might be gone

[lethal fractal]

My store will put them on holf as well...

Those bodies also just are unplayable for me either way

[wind mauve]

i mean it's a fairly standard super strat no?

[lethal fractal]

I mean yes they are but different still and I can't play them they hurt to much where I rest my arm

[wind mauve]

i see i see

good thing it's the red one in the store and not the green one tho

🤢

[lethal fractal]

Both look awful

[wind mauve]

the red has a certain charm to it

[lethal fractal]

It's there classic colours

Back to the 2000s edgy kid subscription

[wind mauve]

so that's why i like it...

[lethal fractal]

I know and that's why I don't

[wind mauve]

dammit i shouldn't have kept looking at their website i like this way more

[lethal fractal]

The wood is a lot better

[wind mauve]

their wood finish guitars overall are just really clean

i know the other schecter i'd really like is the glassjaw sig

[lethal fractal]

To bad I can play their guitars

[wind mauve]

if i were to play a 6 it'd be this or an EVH for sure

[lethal fractal]

I like that headstock reversed

[wind mauve]

or the GWAR sig...

[lethal fractal]

Hate the explorer I actually found one I like the first ever one

[wind mauve]

i think the biggest meme about this guitar aside from it being Balzac the Destroyer's BalSac is that it has fishmans

wouldn't really expect that from GWAR

[lethal fractal]

Floyd's are just ugly as well

Lo pro best

[wind mauve]

i think this would make a dope display piece

which is unfortunate cause i also think it'd play really nicely

[lethal fractal]

Good fire wood

[wind mauve]

[lethal fractal]

Probably be ready good fire wood

[wind mauve]

when you're older you'll understand

[lethal fractal]

The chemicals probably catch fast

[wind mauve]

it's a GWAR guitar the chemicals are probably just leftover nose candy

[lethal fractal]

I was planning to see gawr but didn't get tickets

[wind mauve]

it's unfortunate that we will never see GWAR at their peak

catching one of their shows during their prime would've been spectacular i think

[lethal fractal]

Getting sprayed would have been fun

[wind mauve]

i mean i think they still do that at shows

it just isn't quite the same without oderus

[lethal fractal]

Yea

[open fjord]

https://youtu.be/kNB3jh9pz28?si=bbooRoGCNGwBy-EW

[lethal fractal]

Was an interesting vid

[toxic wharf]

That riff is brutal

[wind mauve]

i had no idea LTE used 7s

they're tuff tho, absolute bangers every time

[gray ermine]

Its on the way right now but

[lethal fractal]

Enjoy

[storm mulch]

Currently learning hand of blood hardest song I’ve played in while but that’s not saying much cause I haven’t played guitar in a while

Forgot how to really do a lot

But I’m wondering if anyone has some warm ups that can help me get better finger dexterity and stuff

[lethal fractal]

Do this
https://www.instagram.com/reel/C5EJAupoJVL/?igsh=ZHg3bG5vc21rODV5

dmytromartinovskiy

Very hard exercise 🤝 @hazem.jr7 🤪😮😍
Repost for effort ✌️✅🤘🤞✌️

#guitarlessons #exersice #guitarexercise #guitarexercises
@postmusicians @siccasguitars

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Abunch of Spiderwalk variations make up things

[storm mulch]

Will definitely try modified spiderwalks thanks

[dire hamlet]

just designing a my 24 fret, custom telestang, with a custom humbucker bridge & p90 neck pickup. gonna fucking shred once built.

[balmy vortex]

A classic

[wind mauve]

put a chib grip in it

[balmy vortex]

Mever

[wind mauve]

keeps the dust out

[dire hamlet]

steve vai

[toxic wharf]

Perfection

Its Moon!

[lethal fractal]

Hope it treats you well

[open fjord]

https://youtu.be/8Wll0i7KQLU?si=1V3vgcJZmUfctJGC

[dire kayak]

i was looking at that same one, ended up getting the 5 string, 6 is too many

[lethal fractal]

11 string bass

[dire kayak]

i feel like the ridiculous numbers of strings will start traveling in the direction of higher pitches as people try to make new sounds

imagine added 3 or 4 strings on top of a 9 string

neck too big to play anything

[lethal fractal]

People go higher and lower... 6 string bass you get a higher string

[dire kayak]

yeah but there's always room to go more higher or lower

[lethal fractal]

Yep

[wind mauve]

just make one of those one-stringed shovel guitars and get a pitch shifter at this point

[lethal fractal]

Go to a bridge or power line and hit the cables

[dire kayak]

the fifth string on my bass already feels like a bridge cable

[lethal fractal]

Haha

[dire kayak]

i wonder how low you can tube a bass

I have mine in drop g

[lethal fractal]

How ever low you want

No limit besides human hearing and basic physics

[dire kayak]

no but like still be audible

[lethal fractal]

20hz

Overtones still play a role though people tune lower for the overtones

[dire kayak]

so it looks like drop e is lowest for bass

audible at least

[lethal fractal]

Mhmm

For the people who can hear 20hz as well

[dire kayak]

well you can probably just feel it if theres a good subwoofer

[lethal fractal]

Yep... it's mostly feel but some people can hear it some people can't

[dire kayak]

although I wonder if tunings will go back up over time

ik knocked loose used drop g for a while and I believe recept singles have been in only a

and it's sounded pretty nice

[lethal fractal]

Depends on the genres as well...

[dry parrot]

deciding to learn blitzkrieg by yngwie was a mistake

too bad ive already made up my mind and im sticking with it

im also not gonna be lazy and do sweep picks ill learn it the hard way

i figure maybe this can be a learning experience

[high tangle]

All I can tell you dude is just keep going at it till you reach a desired level where you want to be. Usually it becomes less harder the more muscle memory you build up.

Mostly for sweep picking I'd start with a minor arpeggio

[lethal fractal]

Learning your major and minor sweeps and the intervals in them then you can flatten or raise things to get other arpeggios

[dry parrot]

no i can sweep pick, but iirc he does this weird alternate picking thing im trying to figure out

[vital carbon]

Just found an RG550 that just came in took it out of the box and fell in love. Jesus this neck is really epic!!

no better way to spend $1000 IMO

[toxic wharf]

RG550's have a legendary status for a reason. Enjoy that great guitar

[lethal fractal]

Nice enjoy

[vital carbon]

I wish I was a better player to take full advantage of her, I know its only day 1 with it but I could see myself buying all 3 colors and tune them E D C lol

I have a nice american strat and les paul and they are meh next to this. Love it ❤️

[dry parrot]

does anyone know a good bass pick with less attack

i prefer the sound of bass with fingers but i dont like playing with my fingers

[lethal fractal]

Get one of the 0.44mm picks

[dry parrot]

ill see if i have one i havent gotten rid of

lowest i think i have is .73

[lethal fractal]

Thinner generally the less attack also looser grip on a pick letting it flow more, I'll sometimes play where the pick is flowing back and forth in-between my fingers the a seesaw

[lethal fractal]

@wind mauve

Guitar you can eat

[wind mauve]

it wasn't me

oh

yummy :)

[gleaming wing]

No Nutella November

I don't think I'll make it 😔

[toxic wharf]

Jesus take the ween

[wind mauve]

that schecter was just straight up gone over the weekend so say hello to the new guy in town

i still really want that mesa badlander amp that thing was so fucking cool

[lethal fractal]

My shop has one of those

I'm thinking of getting a multiscale 8 string and adding one low string and one high string

[wind mauve]

honestly it's pretty solid

sounds super clean in drop g

pickups are kinda mid tho

can’t replace them yet but i will. fishies or bare knuckies i’m undecided, both have pros and cons

[lethal fractal]

Fair

Two very different guitars, if anyone can tell me which one they think sounds better would be appreciated.

[dire kayak]

this is two different guitars?

I'll listen on monitors when I get home I couldn't distinguish differences on my earbuds

i mean maybe 1 is better?

[lethal fractal]

Yes

Same amp and eq... just two different guitars

[dire kayak]

maybe the issue with hearing differences is not being on monitors

[lethal fractal]

I can tell on my phone the difference

[dire kayak]

because I'm not hearing any difference other than perhaps gain/output

unless that's what you're comparing

[lethal fractal]

Just comparing two guitars through the same setup. Not focusing on anything besides which one people prefer

[dire kayak]

maybe 1 because it's slightly cleaner

imo

[dire kayak]

@lethal fractal do they have the same pickups

that would explain a lot

[lethal fractal]

No

Two very different pickups and it's very noticeable to a good ear

I did forget to adjust for the output difference, although I was fine with just leaving them alone just recording the two...

[wind mauve]

guitar 1 sounds better for this kind of riff

more rock & roll

guitar 2 sounds bassier

[lethal fractal]

Yep

Ones a fender ones an ibanez

[wind mauve]

ah yeah

the fender is what you want for a riff like that

and a riff like that is not what i want

play me some techdeath

[lethal fractal]

Maybe tomorrow my arms are dead I'm just eating chips and dip

[lethal fractal]

I'm putting a polymath in thr fender so I will see what it sounds like... What's your thoughts on that riff?

[wind mauve]

dips and chip

[wind mauve]

i actually don't really enjoy those kinds of riffs they sound way too pop punk for my liking

but like it's not bad objectively

i'm sure with some happy sounding drums and a soft bass tone under it could be the basis for a record hit song

[lethal fractal]

very fair, I did that ending as it was easy and basic I have plans for it to go a very different way, also on the slides adding pinch harmonics and harmonizing some guitars maybe a 6th or 4th

Adding more slides as well...

[wind mauve]

ye like i think the riff is fine for what it is

i personally just prefer heavier obviously

[lethal fractal]

Yea for sure

It will be heavier with the drums and bass being added... Drums make such a big difference

[open fjord]

https://youtu.be/magAQKmbQ6c?si=-VeHzBRqUhIExNUi

[wind mauve]

the wylde audio subsection of schecter i just consider to be a fever dream

its just not real

so long as you do not directly perceive it

[open fjord]

https://youtu.be/KR7jcQbip6E?si=W_TboDm7JMBa8nml

For you boys who got a soft side for pop punk.

[lethal fractal]

@wind mauve

@wind mauve

Your pop punk happiness

[wind mauve]

why did you ping me twice

[lethal fractal]

Accidently did... Either way it's your favorite

[wind mauve]

you're entirely correct

i love pop punk so much

[lethal fractal]

[open fjord]

Have you seen Tom's signature Strat?

[wind mauve]

that was me lying

that was me speaking falsehoods

[open fjord]

Oh.

[storm mulch]

I’m a pop punk fanboy and yet I don’t have it

[lethal fractal]

Agreed, I'm still trying to figure out which one I like more. Both have there own times to shine that's all I know.

The first one the pickup is getting replaced though so I'm going to do another demo once it get the new pickup

Yea, as well the once guitar just acoustics is a lot darker... I think the new pickup will be a perfect blend between those two pickups

That just sounds like it's clipping like crazy... Never been a fan of heavy distorted bass anyways.
Although I am in a car on the free way with the windows down trying to listen through my phone so I don't have the best sound going for me

All I was able to listen to before I said I'm good my ears already are ringing from wind noise

Can't hear much in this car haha

[zenith crystal]

New bass Ik it’s not very metal but tbh I prefer to play funk on bass not 0s and 1s

[lethal fractal]

Good also enjoy

[open fjord]

RIP

[wind mauve]

no i hear the clipping too actually

the riff is cool

the cutouts are what stood out yeah

just keep dialling

[toxic wharf]

Its not the cutouts, its legit clipping

Throughout the entire clip...each transcient is basically extra distorted in such a way that its not the pedal or the effect

Than that pedal is clipping the signal pretty hard

So I dont know what difference that makes?

Its just clipping and you gonna have to dial down the pre amp gain

Or the input gain, wherever the issue resides

No, its not clipping there it seems

[dry parrot]

how the hell do i play this chord

do i have to do a bar with my middle or ring finger?

that totally sucks

maybe i can play that one g on the sixth string and mute the 5th

it feels physically impossible to play this the way im trying to do it someone help

im doing index on 10 on 5th string, trying to make a bar from 1-4 and i then cant do anything for the 13

[toxic wharf]

Yeah its basically a 'Van Halen' chord

Pretty simple

Just as you would play a A major chord with a bar using the ring finger and pinky on the c (13th fret B string)

You can cheat and mute the D on the high e string or make sure you slightly lift the ring finger

Otherwise its back to basics and learn basic major bar chords on the a string until comfortable

Edit: I saw it wrong...its even easier its a basic major chord with a pinky on the 13th lol so...

[south hare]

Hi I've a question what do people think of Thomann's in house brand Harley Benton? I have heard both good and bad from them but what do you guys think?

[toxic wharf]

Theyre a bit better than a lot of other guitars in that price range. Great for beginners, but other than that mweh

[south hare]

Yeah that seemed to be the general opinion I had found on reviews of their products

[lethal fractal]

Did he get banned or just leave???

[toxic wharf]

Dont know

[lethal fractal]

Interesting...

[toxic wharf]

It was guiatr right? So I think he might have removed them?

[wind mauve]

donny did you see the new guitar i actually ended up getting

[toxic wharf]

No

Lol

[wind mauve]

i hate to say it

but you were right

[toxic wharf]

You went for Jackson?

[wind mauve]

drop g sounded like ass on my gio it sounds so much better on the multiscale

yeah

[lethal fractal]

[wind mauve]

it was available at my guitar shop

[toxic wharf]

Ah alright. Enjoy.

[wind mauve]

i played it on a 5150 and a mesa badlander and was really happy with it

there was also a used scheter silver mountain but it got bought up while i was away wearing a funny green uniform

[toxic wharf]

And yes, no shit drop G sounds better on 27 inch scale 😄

[wind mauve]

i mean i thought i'd gotten it pretty tight overall

but yeah the open notes were just mud

[lethal fractal]

No I think it was the other guy with the lighting pfp

Either way doesn't matter

[toxic wharf]

Its impossible to make drop G sound good on a 25.5 inch scale no matter what anyone says

Flubby strings? Intonation of note is crap. Heavy ass strings? Definition is diminished. You did right to go with a higher scale/multiscale

[wind mauve]

i also re-recorded the last demo i made and showed my bandmates and they were saying stuff like "oh the tremolo parts are on time"

that's totally the guitar too right

altho in fairness (to me) a lot of the tremolo was on the low g so when it's super muddy on a 25.5" then playing it on a 27" low g would make it sound more clear

[toxic wharf]

Yes, guitar dictates skill not the other way around

[wind mauve]

yes

[toxic wharf]

No no..no excuses

You were sloppy

[wind mauve]

[toxic wharf]

Its ok to admit. Its what makes good guitarplayers good guitarplayers

They are willing to re record 20 times even tho for the average listener the 3rd time sounded fine

[wind mauve]

oh yeah no i do that for sure

[lethal fractal]

I'm so bad most days I don't want to touch any of them but I enjoy it to much 🙃

[toxic wharf]

Thats the most important thing.

[wind mauve]

once sent three tracks to the band disc in like 12 hours cause i'd go back and listen and be like naw ion like that

[toxic wharf]

Its just your bandmates. You can sent them crapoy recordings as long as they get the idea

[wind mauve]

no

it must be perfect

[lethal fractal]

I'm way to picky if my strum doesn't line up perfectly with the metronome I'll redo it I probably did 15 recordings of just an 11 bar chord progression.

[wind mauve]

every time

[toxic wharf]

🤔

[wind mauve]

but yeah overall i'm quite liking the multiscale

[lethal fractal]

Good

[toxic wharf]

You asked me how to quantize guitar parts in studio one

[wind mauve]

my sweeps feel faster than they were on the gio

still need to practice them to get them consistently fast

and then i can shred

[toxic wharf]

Yes, a new guitar can increase sweep speed by 50%

[wind mauve]

the only thing i'm noticing is trying to fret 1 on the middle strings is like

[lethal fractal]

Yes, because everything was off by probably like a 1000th of a second haha.

[wind mauve]

weird?

if im off by molecules i get a flubbed note

[lethal fractal]

They looked like they almost perfectly lined up but not good for my brain. I learned to live with it fast

[wind mauve]

its the multiscale im tellin ya it's got crack in the fingerboard

that's why they called it speed metal

[lethal fractal]

I'm still looking for an 8 string multi and going to add a low and high string

[toxic wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/ejemplo-tony-montana-scarface-al-pacino-gif-17798122

[wind mauve]

there's ibanez ones

when i was at L&M getting the jackson i was asking about them

the guy was like yeah we usually have the ibanez 7/8 multiscale in stock but people around here dont buy em so we have what we have

and then i bought what they have now they have nothing

[lethal fractal]

There are lots just, not at the top of my list currently just looking for what would be good for my little idea

[toxic wharf]

All I need is a Kaizen

Amd im set. Ive sold my 8 string a year and a half ago lol

[lethal fractal]

I don't like the body I want to like the guitar playing wise they are nice but the body

[toxic wharf]

I love the body shape

[lethal fractal]

Good

[toxic wharf]

Yes

[wind mauve]

i still want a headless lowkey

just to have it

[toxic wharf]

Saw off the head of your jackson and install headless tuner system

[lethal fractal]

I got plans to make one with some guitar buddies and who also are wood workers

[wind mauve]

nah i like the jackson headstock

[lethal fractal]

Also make pickups something we want to do

[toxic wharf]

Yes its pretty nice

[wind mauve]

lowkey if i had access to folks like that

the things i would come up with

headless 8 string telecaster...

[lethal fractal]

I like those headstocks not the hockey sticks

[lethal fractal]

I want a 7 string regular tele

[wind mauve]

there is one

i think i mentioned it before

[lethal fractal]

Schecter has there new tele body with 8 7 and 6

[toxic wharf]

Yeah..having wood working friends for a guitar would be nice. Now if only there were companies that have actually specialized in building quality guitars I wouldnt need them

[wind mauve]

this one

[lethal fractal]

Lespal

[toxic wharf]

Less pals?

[lethal fractal]

Look at the new schecters

[wind mauve]

pffft who cares about big companies they just want money

[lethal fractal]

Oui

Best headstock

[wind mauve]

i want someone who fears my texts at 3am when i come up with another stupid project for them

[toxic wharf]

Yes and some of those give you great guitars in return...wow what a concept

[wind mauve]

knowing full well they can't stop themselves from attempting it

[toxic wharf]

We should give it a name...like...a market

[lethal fractal]

Check out the new schecters you might fall in love

[toxic wharf]

That is somewhat reasonable

I like those black ops, but a lot of it is also boring

[wind mauve]

ok ok im gonna look at the new schecters

oh is it the black ops ones

[lethal fractal]

I got to go do math soon

[wind mauve]

i've seen those already

[lethal fractal]

Yea

[wind mauve]

but ye so take this

and decapitate it

altho i'd probably want a standard wood finish

[toxic wharf]

Also solar rip off

Im just not a schecter fan

[lethal fractal]

Wtf was I just handed

[lethal fractal]

Sames

[wind mauve]

bro's never seen a remote before?

[lethal fractal]

I just randomly was handed it

[toxic wharf]

The only people I see here playing schecters are edgy teenagers who cant play a barr chord to save their life

[wind mauve]

i mean i still think the glassjaw one is sick

and the gwar one is... the gwar one

[toxic wharf]

Some of em show up on a local jam session tho. They are cool

[wind mauve]

i'm still lost on why it has fishmans

[toxic wharf]

Cause fishmans are all the hype right now

Until it dies off

I remember when the same thing happened with Bareknuckles.

[wind mauve]

they are being considered for the jackson but then it'd need a battery slot somewhere and somehow

[toxic wharf]

Great marketing

[wind mauve]

bare knucks are the other option but then shipping costs + the extra cost of getting the multiscale version

[toxic wharf]

Lol

[lethal fractal]

Rob Scallon is probably the only artist I like from schecter

[wind mauve]

maybe i should just get seymour funkies

[toxic wharf]

I think Aaron Marshall plays schecter so...

[lethal fractal]

I had a massive argument with some guys about fishman

[lethal fractal]

Ah yes

[wind mauve]

yeah his signature guitar is up there on the website

[toxic wharf]

Whats the argument?

[wind mauve]

i dont even remember what band he's from

intervals or invent animate or some djent band

[toxic wharf]

Intervals. Hes great

Actual good guitarplayer

[lethal fractal]

Last night kept me up till like 2 am arguing with them about one of them wants a 9 string fishman I told him to make his own and one guy in the server that just doesn't like me got stuck up the ass and started trying to go off at me about it

[toxic wharf]

Instead of sweeping you should follow Marshalls or Plinis example

[wind mauve]

nah i'd shred

[toxic wharf]

But..but..whats the argument about?

[lethal fractal]

I'm literally doing exactly this

[lethal fractal]

That you can't make your own fishman

I jokingly said make your own and it blew up

[toxic wharf]

Oke