Guitars & Bass

[full hedge]

also, is that a thrown PfP

[dry parrot]

if only i could afford a schecter 7 string :(

i have just a jackson dinky

works fine

i think knocked loose used it for laugh tracks

[dry parrot]

yah

i love on the verge

[full hedge]

i got hella lucky with mine, got mine for like 400 Canadian (half price) bc i was orginally gonna buy an omen but the store i was buying from acidently had the omens in stock online when they had none so the owner said ill give you the demon for the omen price

[dry parrot]

seeing them in june too

[full hedge]

no way

[dry parrot]

thats cool

[full hedge]

yeah honestly became my fav shop after that

[dry parrot]

oh cool

[sturdy garnet]

One guitar I want is synster gates shecter

[full hedge]

i have it it plays like a dream

[sturdy garnet]

Awesome

[full hedge]

smoothest guitar i have ever played and all my guitars after the specs have been based around that bc how comfortable it is to me

[sturdy garnet]

I also want a zacky vengeance guitar

[dry parrot]

the schecter i have i got at a pawn shop

for like 150

but it was in shitty shape

i mean

[full hedge]

the pawn shops here try and rip me off

[dry parrot]

totally rusted out

i had to soak all the parts including bridge in vinegar

scrub that all off

then repaint

[full hedge]

sounds like my first guitar

[dry parrot]

my first guitar was a squire

im gonna work on upgrading that sometime soon

right now my collection is getting ridiculous

[sturdy garnet]

My first guitar was also a squire

[full hedge]

an old epiphone LP that was dirt af, i wanna fix it up bc it nolonger plays

[full hedge]

yours and mine both doesnt help i also picked up bass

[sturdy garnet]

I still have my first guitar

[full hedge]

mines sitting in a corner next to me but the pickups are shot to hell

neck doesnt even work anymore and the bridge just idk how to explain it other than way too crunchy

[mellow geyser]

um

i have a guitar question ig

for the veterans here

i’ve been trying to work on my bends, & pretty much all tutorials online mention bending w/ ur wrist; not ur fingers.

bt i just can’t get it to feel natural

or bend more than 1/2 a step

how did u guys master it?

[lethal fractal]

Something I do to practice bends is to start with the low E string usually around the 5th fret pick a scale start on the first note, then play the 2nd note, go back to the first note and bend to the second one. Then repeat 2nd to 3rd then 3rd to fourth and do this with all the strings, and you can start it at any fret just 5-7 fret I tend to find is a good starting place.

As to the technique, lots of practice figuring out what feels good yet is still effective

[quasi mirage]

I think I have found my next purchase

[graceful socket]

[gleaming wing]

Ooh pretty

[dry parrot]

sexy guitar

needs more strings though

[quasi mirage]

My personal limit is 8

[dry parrot]

9 is the minimum to play any sort of metal

otherwise you're a poser

[quasi mirage]

As written in the metal Bible or something

Idfk

Lmao

[dry parrot]

i was joking, although probably the metal elitist bible yeah

[quasi mirage]

The Elitist commandments

[dry parrot]

for satire we need to convince the admin of this server to post the metal commandments

willing to collaborate with someone to write them out

[graceful socket]

I beg to differ, I´d bet the Elitist Commandments deem everything over 6 strings to be new age poser shit that´s "not real metal"

[quasi mirage]

You know, that’s a good point

Clean singing is also poser shit too

[graceful socket]

Obviously

[quasi mirage]

Ahh what else

[dry parrot]

thats modern metal elitist then

[quasi mirage]

The only real genres are the ones that are unintelligible and poorly mixed? How about that

[graceful socket]

I want to say something but I think some people wont like my take on it lmao

[graceful socket]

that´s a good one

[quasi mirage]

I’m all ears

This is all for fun anyway

[graceful socket]

Poser shit when you actually know how to scream and utilize screaming techniques instead of doing the half assed raspy voice screaming that pretty much all the boomer metal bands use

looking at you Metallica

[quasi mirage]

There you go there’s another commandment

[graceful socket]

That´s 5

need 5 more, then we can go scribble them on a stone tablet on some mountain

nvm, it´s 4, I cant count

[ember inlet]

If you wear any other color than black you're a poser could be another one

[lethal fractal]

9 string sucks to play besides for like the of chance you do something really pretty

[vocal hearth]

Pro sample

[dry parrot]

just become abassi

[lethal fractal]

I play AAL type stuff...

Just 9 strings not a big point

[dry parrot]

i just think its funny tbh

i cant think of anyting practical for 9

[lethal fractal]

Jazz stuff I mainly find

[toxic wharf]

Also people who have to listen the whole day to other people not even really knowing how to play a 6 string but than play a poorly dialed in 8 string, sounding like ass...

Do it in your bedroom and dont leave it with that thing please

Its indecent exposure at this point

[vapid axle]

Is this good for a first 8 string

[toxic wharf]

Seems like you already have it

[vapid axle]

I do

I just wanna know if it’s mid or not

[toxic wharf]

Why? You gonna return it if it is?

[vapid axle]

Tbh probably not I payed hella for shipping

[toxic wharf]

So why care?

Its a sub 500 dollar guitar. You can expect a sub 500 dollar guitar.

[wispy flint]

always do research before buying a guitar

[balmy vortex]

It won't be a hapas 8 string we have. So at least get it setup properly by a seasoned tech

[lethal fractal]

As said, get a good setup done still won't be all to great but will be a lot better then how it is.

[cobalt sable]

Ik that there are a lot of tone questions, but I really wanna know how I can get that crunchy guitar intro tone of bonebreaker (fortin nameless)

Like just in general how to make the tone more crunchy

[quasi mirage]

Looks good to me, idk as long as you like it

[quasi mirage]

What’s your effects setup?

I might have a little bit of advice

[lethal fractal]

It's not the best guitar my local store has one I've played it and it is meh

[open fjord]

https://youtu.be/zBCDLp2tcl0?si=KVzkeGiJT1j4H6xH

[cobalt sable]

Only fortin (I only use the hexdrive pedal and Noise Gate)

[quasi mirage]

Well my best advice is to just fiddle with all the knobs until it sounds good to you. I’m not familiar with Fortin, so I apologize for lack of better advice

[cobalt sable]

Ty though, do you maybe have an idea which of the normal eq settings could improve the sound, I’ve been testing out a lot but I just can’t seem to nail it

[lethal fractal]

https://youtu.be/W5wX1pnBCQY?si=JNkRT9eDcPCW5RSb

[lethal fractal]

Any specific band that has a tone similar to what you are trying to achieve something just to get an idea from?

[grizzled patrol]

Is this a good bass?

[lethal fractal]

Try it out

[vapid axle]

Gyat

Looks like a good one yeah

[lethal fractal]

Looks good and are good are different...

[grizzled patrol]

Sounds good enough for me

When I buy it I might give an update

[lethal fractal]

Well as mentioned for the other guys guitar.
Best to get it professionally setup, so it's in its best shape.

[dry parrot]

jackson has some great guitars for the prices

it may require some fretwork but other than that it'll play fine

[lethal fractal]

Also forgot to share this, helping with new frets, final step will be done soon.

[dry parrot]

ive also found with a ton of playing cheaper guitars pots crap out sooner

[lethal fractal]

Electronics in cheap guitars always are bad

[dry parrot]

yeah i recently got that gio i think you saw, i plugged it in and found out none of the electronics worked

except neck and mid pickups

[lethal fractal]

Tuners, electronics and frets always

[dry parrot]

bridge H pickup, pots, and jack were all dead

frets surprisingly not too bad

tuners were very bad

they tuned still

but were so loose i was worried about them falling out

[lethal fractal]

My gio needs a new input jack and new tuners honestly new pickups

[dry parrot]

overall spent about 162, but now its a damn awesome guitar

[lethal fractal]

That's bad bad

[dry parrot]

id say it compares to my ibanez rg, which was 400

probably better because i put a seymour duncan in it

[lethal fractal]

I like part caster... though when pickups are like $700 CAD it still is not cheap

[lethal fractal]

Nice.

[dry parrot]

why not go for like a seymour duncan jb

thats good for everything other than super high gain imo

versatile

and cheap but not too cheap

[lethal fractal]

Because BKP is just better and pretty custom designs are just so nice.

Though I would never put those in a gio

That's a lie I would put aftermaths but I can't justify it yet

[dry parrot]

i never really looked into bkp until now

like at their shop

that is pretty damn cool

but also yeah expensive

[lethal fractal]

But when I'm going for a custom guitar I want all custom as much as I can

[dry parrot]

the most i ever spent on pickups was for a guitar from a kit, got emgs because i wanted it for ridiculous gain

also note for guitar kits in the future

just buy prefinished

its so much easier

it took wayy too much time for a simple cardinal red

[lethal fractal]

I'm starting to really hate active pickups now that I'm getting more into gear, don't need the compression they give and just don't like how they sound anymore, I used to have to much gain it didn't matter

[dry parrot]

i can understand thaht

and have similarish feelings

but thats why i figure for higher gain settings if i want it, i have something with hotter pickups

and i have a ton of guitars for other stuff

[lethal fractal]

I can get around them actually for some more stuff like mathrock tones

[dry parrot]

emgs for mathrock?

[lethal fractal]

And playing styles that are very dynamic but you don't want all those dynamics

[lethal fractal]

No more Fishman

[dry parrot]

oh yeah

ive heard fishman has totally different technology

i was listening to abassi talk about how the type of compression is different

[lethal fractal]

I've only really played Fishman

They are different 100%

[dry parrot]

i think they're printed arent they

thats what sets them apart

unfortunately im too broke for the time being

ill stick with my secondhand guitars which work good enough

if i ever make it as an artist (unlikely) then i can get a higher end guitar

[lethal fractal]

100%
I'm getting two jobs next year so that will be amazing for saving for guitar gear

[dry parrot]

my school only gives work permits during summer :(

i can try to talk to my school counselor to make an exception but unlikely with the state of my grades rn

[lethal fractal]

I'm not going through my school in that way

[dry parrot]

wdym

[lethal fractal]

I got a welding COOP but I already know the shop owners and everything and they will most likely take me in after the COOP anyways

I'm just doing the COOP as it's duel credit and the whole year so I am taking less classes

[dry parrot]

i see

[lethal fractal]

Then I'm getting my volunteer hours done at a music store just doing guitar work so I'll just get 40 hours of practice

[dry parrot]

thats nice

i wish there was more music stores near here

only a few guitars centers though, each like 20 minutes or more drive from my house

[lethal fractal]

Mine is 50 minute bus ride there which isn't too bad

[dry parrot]

public transportation here is a joke

you can get from nowhere to nowhere if you're willing to take an hour walk to find where you wanna go

wish it was better

[lethal fractal]

Luckily I live right beside the mall which like 9 busses stop at so I can get anywhere

[dry parrot]

thats cool

do you live in an urban city?

[lethal fractal]

It was bad but they are putting in more work redoing all the roads and everything

[lethal fractal]

Yes its considered urban

[dry parrot]

wait i need to write this down before i forget

i need to scrobble millions of playsd by carlwheezer

on last fm

i almost forgot that im taking note here

[lethal fractal]

Though I live like an hour away from the center of the city

Damn where I live is the third most dangerous city out of the main 12 lmao I mean checks out.

[vocal hearth]

What do y’all think about this guitar part? What should I change?

[dry parrot]

drop it down an octave

[lethal fractal]

Play to a click and do your best to stay in time.

[vocal hearth]

It’s already In drop G#

[vocal hearth]

Ok

[lethal fractal]

Not low enough, go an octave down

[vocal hearth]

Brother

That’s too low

[lethal fractal]

If pitch shifting yes with 9 string no hehehe

Though sounds better now

[vocal hearth]

I disagree

[lethal fractal]

Good

[lethal fractal]

Another octave

Or 2

[vocal hearth]

How about one semitone

[lethal fractal]

https://tenor.com/view/nuh-uh-beocord-no-lol-gif-24435520

[lethal fractal]

Ping

[vocal hearth]

Sorry I was stuck in 2010

Your totally right, the tuning should be -1D not 1G#

My mistake

[lethal fractal]

Yes

[lethal fractal]

I usually draw the line at A0

For guitar

[vocal hearth]

I draw the line at Drop G

We are not the same

Drop C is the heaviest tuning

FIGHT ME

[lethal fractal]

I play mostly E standard lmao or drop D lower≠heavier

Just is lower

[vocal hearth]

Totally agree

It’s how you play it

Good night y’all

[lethal fractal]

Gn

[dry parrot]

much better

[toxic wharf]

New loathe album ???😁

[quasi mirage]

I’d say yes, it looks like a very good option

[grizzled patrol]

Thx, I'm saving up for it rn. Can't wait to own it

[toxic wharf]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LR9KIEu3g78&ab_channel=TimHenson

Not a fan of Tim Henson and his songwriting, but this is a great solo. Probably the best thing he has ever played in my book lmao

[cobalt sable]

Yeah slaughter to prevail, so literally the tone every modern deathcore band has xD

[cobalt sable]

Ty that might help

[lethal fractal]

Let me know if you need more input into it or if thar helps enough

[cobalt sable]

An answer to that might help too :)

[cobalt sable]

I really appreciate it

[lethal fractal]

What guitar are you using?

[cobalt sable]

Schecter demon 7

Active pickups :)

[lethal fractal]

Alright, I'm not to familiar with the plugins you are using.
I mean a general good starting place is plenty of gain but you will want a good gate all gates are different so find what settings work best. For EQ I tend to like a low cut and always 4k getting removed as it's where a lot of the annoyance comes from.

I could send you Andrew's vidoe on 8 string tone it will be different and it's done on the QC though you can probably apply most of it to your application

[cobalt sable]

Ty :) yeah send the video pls

[lethal fractal]

https://youtu.be/EkuIpDjm6Gg?si=ix81VdC3IokCxqaL

https://youtu.be/UG3F-piLjq8?si=6m55v5Q5FEnj9LAE

I haven't watched this one but it's for 7 string so might be better:
https://youtu.be/Wnx-FUlL4X4?si=Rzl9yJ5VlXGwwkQr

[lethal fractal]

This one you can translate more as it's using another plugin rather then the QC

[cobalt sable]

Ty so much :)

[lethal fractal]

No worries, again update me if you get something done if not maybe when I am actually home and have everything I can be more use.

[cobalt sable]

I will

[ebon relic]

I'm having a bit of an issue. I want to put new pickups into my bass, was thinking Fishman Soapbars. But my bass came with a 3-band eq, whil the fishmans only have 2-band. Should I try to find different pickups, or should I go through with it? And what would I do with the extra knob if I do go through with it?

[open fjord]

https://youtu.be/QzGtvrCmDmw?si=zo7Ey8fXxvbJpxB8

[lethal fractal]

Could turn it into a kill switch type thing, I would look for a different set of pickups but if that is really what you want.

I mean I would probably just replace the electronics for like an arcade button.

I'd just replace it for something fun, I don't do bass much yet

[scenic dune]

I just spent $40 on six three-inch patch cables 🫡

[merry raven]

@scenic dune I'm crying in cheap

[wind mauve]

fortin nameless x and soldano slo-100 x

nameless makes sense it was like their first plug-in

[patent sierra]

my short cover of Intig's Färger i Svartvitt
hands down best DSBM song

[lethal fractal]

Probably more for #1095996414481416274

[patent sierra]

lemme join that

[lethal fractal]

Sounds nice though

[open fjord]

https://youtu.be/S2I8yVfNqBA?si=d_k5ZcRpDIuYLSlW

[lethal fractal]

Theory

[toxic wharf]

Add the aug to the C major

[lethal fractal]

Wait where I am not in music land in my head right now, is that not already augmented the C+

[toxic wharf]

Youre right sorry!

[lethal fractal]

No worries haha

[toxic wharf]

Camt be a standard major triad

[open fjord]

Oh god

Theory

[lethal fractal]

That's basic theory

It's fun

[open fjord]

I know. But theory sometimes goes over my head.

Especially when it comes to reading it.

[lethal fractal]

It is not basic

I mean to me it is somewhat basic but to someone new to theory that's very hard, not to mention he drilled me on the intervals of all the chords and how many semitones from the root to each note in the chords and all of that but it's good to know.

[open fjord]

I see

[deft reef]

New 7 string

[lethal fractal]

Looks familiar

[thin glade]

Chunks of wood with metal wires amirite?

[balmy vortex]

Fiddles

[deft reef]

Because it’s the same one

Mine has zero problems so I guess I got lucky

[lethal fractal]

Have you got the frets looked at?

[deft reef]

No sharp frets

[lethal fractal]

Mine didn't get any either... They aren't level is what im saying.

[lethal fractal]

Pretty

[deft reef]

There level and I have no Frett buzz aside from the low a string

But I put a 60 on it so

[lethal fractal]

Do you have a proper fret rocker to check if they are level?

[deft reef]

I spend a lot of time in construction I can tell when something is not level

[lethal fractal]

[deft reef]

I do have one tuner tho that is loose

All the others are stiff like normal

[lethal fractal]

the crappy pots will go eventually especially if you are using the volume pot a lot.
Mine just started spinning

Tighten all the screws on all the tuners don't over do it their are plenty of things in there you don't want stripped but all of mine where lose just needed a quick tighten up.

[deft reef]

Fair

But for now the guitar is perfect

Not as good as my Schecter but big price difference

[lethal fractal]

I can't remember the name of the part woke up like 5 minutes ago but in the tuners it's like a plastic gasket and you can just destroy it if you tighten to much.

[deft reef]

O ring ya

They do that a lot

[lethal fractal]

Yep

[deft reef]

Most things that use o rings normal come with extras but guitars don’t

[lethal fractal]

I wish guitars came with just abunch of extra strings instead, big design fail.

[deft reef]

Like sharks teeth but with guitar strings

Never have to replace them

[lethal fractal]

Sharks teeth get replaced alot... Though yes I get your point on unlimited.

Humans need to be able to do that

[balmy vortex]

That would leave a lot of string businesses bankrupt

[lethal fractal]

Yes it would

[lethal fractal]

Everything needs work so will take it all into the shop soon and fix it all up but here is what I got

[edgy gorge]

Y'all, what tuning is the bass in FFAK's Keeping Secrets? I have been looking to learn it, but 1) I am only finding guitar covers of it and 2) the tuning is absurdly low (like, drop E, but the low E is one octave lower than the regular 4-string E)

[lethal fractal]

Have you tried figuring it out by recording the note and playing on the fret board till you find the same note (maybe diffrent octave) but you usally can find notes like that

[dry parrot]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_btGozlF9U
how do they get the scraping guitar sound that goes on for about 30 seconds at the beginning

[lethal fractal]

probably behind the headtsock or after the bridge

[lethal fractal]

Ya it is behind the headstock

https://youtu.be/Lei58UXZzUQ?si=PXZg1g6wuuO1dE97&t=147

[dry parrot]

i saw that, and tried it, it sounds nowhere close

theres gotta be some technique

[lethal fractal]

Called having specific guitar that has a specific length of string behind the headstock as well as good mixing and a good starting tone...

String gauge changes that tone, the length of the string...

[dry parrot]

spent forever trying to find a virtual bass, find out the lowest the low string can go is a0 :(

i need g

maybe a regular bass with a pitch shifter

or octaver

whatver

[lethal fractal]

I find it funny I have a guitar with an A0 😆

[gleaming wing]

That's a gorgeous case on the left there

[lethal fractal]

Yes

[dry parrot]

i found my next guitar

imagine freebird solo

[coarse condor]

lmao

[open fjord]

https://youtu.be/-8DNsl_twjc?si=i2QqchtSaxoaJQN7

[dire kayak]

i wonder if I can buy a 7 string bass

does a bass still work with a pitch shifter

what's the lowest frequency the human ear can detect

do you think you need to detect a note for it to still be felt

[lethal fractal]

20hz

[lethal fractal]

No

[dire kayak]

thank you for answering my shower thoughts

[lethal fractal]

Plenty of instruments go below 20hz and it's just a physical rumble

[lethal fractal]

I mean I getting one...

[dire kayak]

is it added high or low string

[lethal fractal]

Higher

[dire kayak]

oh

[lethal fractal]

You can go lower

[dire kayak]

anyways m considering spendig my remaining money on this 6 string bass, but first i need to know

is bass difficult to learn

I've tried pitch shifting my 7 string to track bass, hasn't worked

[lethal fractal]

It's like guitar, super hard if you learn hard things easy if you don't

Two handed tapping on bass is much harder then guitar

[hollow phoenix]

Just picked up the guitar I’ve been saving up for

[gleaming wing]

Nice choice

[lethal fractal]

Enjoy

[dire kayak]

why is it 32 bucks for extended range bass strings

that's 1/3 the cost of the 6 string bass

[lethal fractal]

lol for some of my extended range friends they have to order custom strings and it's 10 bucks per string

[dire kayak]

well fortunately 6 strings is a little more common

so it's *only * 30 bucks

im seriously considering this bass, I need a bass anyways for recording, and this one can meme bc 6 strings

at this point only issue is strings

idk how long stock will last

maybe I can just boil them once they get dirty, reuse the same set forever

[lethal fractal]

This will fall apart

[gleaming wing]

If you do get it let us know how it plays lmao

[lethal fractal]

Ya...

[gleaming wing]

Do you tune a 6 string bass same as a standard guitar?

[lethal fractal]

No

[gleaming wing]

Or would you tune it to F# B E A D G?

[lethal fractal]

All 4ths... it just adds a higher string to a 5 string bass

Then 7 adds another higher string to a 6 string

[gleaming wing]

Interesting

I have my bass currently tuned to B E A D

I wanna get a 5 string at some point

[lethal fractal]

B, E, A, D, G, C

6 string

[gleaming wing]

Ok that makes sense

Why not a high B?

[lethal fractal]

4ths

[gleaming wing]

Hmmm

[lethal fractal]

Always 4ths for bass

I sometimes do it for guitar

[gleaming wing]

I'd really have to get used to that

[lethal fractal]

It's fun for diminished runs and stuff of the sort

[wind mauve]

hmmm

i been looking at other guitars in the $900-$1500 price range

and the jackson misha mansoor or PRS mark holcomb sig are both pretty convincing imo

[lethal fractal]

I know someone who got the prs half off perfect condition just had a broken nut

[wind mauve]

heheh

but yeah if i got the prs i'd also have to get locking tuners for it

[lethal fractal]

It's a nice guitar

[wind mauve]

but also, if i got the misha i heard the QC is pretty poor for a $1200 g'tar

and the misha doesn't come with misha bare knuckles for some bizarre reason

the guitar is called juggernaut, the bare knuckle pickups are called juggernaut, the guitar comes with jackson pickups

the 2500 EUR nolly sig guitar comes with nolly sig bear canuckles so what the hell

[dire kayak]

maybe I will just to see how it works for a hundred bucks

it's be even better if that was Canadian

unfortunately usd

[gleaming wing]

Hey if it functions well I might consider getting one and putting some decent pickups in it or something

It's not like I'm gonna be playing it live

[open fjord]

Congrats! That is a seriously comfy guitar so a great pick! The Platinum series rocks.

[toxic wharf]

Its not the US Misha Mansoor signature which does have them

And you wouldnt even need locking tuners for the Holcomb one. Its perfectly stable

[cobalt sable]

I didn’t really have much time but over the past few days I managed to get a somehow decent tone :)

[lethal fractal]

Great

[wind mauve]

the $5000 one?

i'd fuckin hope it does, but if i could afford it i'd buy the nolly guitar that has the nolly sig pickups that costs somewhere in the ballpark of $4400 CAD

[lethal fractal]

I'm getting nolly BKP for my guitar I'm saving for

[balmy vortex]

You can, just don't

[lethal fractal]

Ouch

[lethal fractal]

Like yes you can get one though there are like 3 applications where it works Jazz, very complex and hard to play metal, or to sound like crap

[wind mauve]

the polymath pickups look dope

if i end up getting the mark holcomb guitar and for some reason don't like the deymour suncans then i might have to

[lethal fractal]

They are fully customizable... I'm going to try to get a fully customizable engraving

[wind mauve]

ye but if i want the polymath covers

which is the dope looking part

i need to get the polymath pickups

they also have the uncovered pickups with the design etched onto the actual thing which looks

[lethal fractal]

Yep

[wind mauve]

like look at these bad bois

so it's unfortunate that the nolly oryx guitar only comes with stock cream polymath pickups and you can't buy the covers seperately

[lethal fractal]

Though you probably could pay to get the polymath engraving onto other pickups unless there is some legal thing they have

[wind mauve]

but then why would i get other pickups

if the guitar already has polymath pickups

[lethal fractal]

If you don't want them for your application

But if you do then that's great

[wind mauve]

basically it's a conundrum

that i don't have to worry about

because the guitar is 2,999 EUR

so im never getting it

[lethal fractal]

Save enough you will

[wind mauve]

what a simple statement

why didn't i think of that before

[lethal fractal]

Put a dollar away a day and you will get it in 12 years let's just add some inflation 15 years.

13 dollars a day you'd get it in a year

[wind mauve]

first step is getting a stable job

the job i work pays me about enough to get food every week

[lethal fractal]

Yes

Move to London I probably could get you a job.

[wind mauve]

move to london

[bright latch]

My g string broke. I can’t tune it because not matter how I tighten the nut for the tuner it still won’t tune

[lethal fractal]

Time to put on new strings

[bright latch]

I put a new string it still happens

[lethal fractal]

Oh?

[bright latch]

Might have to retire the bass

Or buy new tuners

[lethal fractal]

Get a new tuner if the tuner broke

[lethal fractal]

Hmm

Definitely not the worst place in Canada

[bright latch]

Idk if it’s broken. I blame Jackson for it

[lethal fractal]

Send pictures of the headstock and tuners

[lethal fractal]

Does it just spin?

Freely

[bright latch]

@lethal fractal

[lethal fractal]

Looks like it works, that's a bit strange

[bright latch]

i am gonna tell my friend about it maybe he can hook me up with better tuners

[lethal fractal]

Good idea

[balmy vortex]

You can ask bareknuckles to make them for ya

[wind mauve]

no but like

so the guitar comes with the pickups already

just, without the etched cover you can order them in off the website

but you can't order that etched cover on it's own

[balmy vortex]

Obviously

[wind mauve]

so it looks like this

which i dig

but in this image he's literally holding the same guitar but with these

which i dig significantly more

[balmy vortex]

Manson does custom guitars, just shoot him a message if he could do those covered versions instead of the regular cream bobbins

[wind mauve]

oh?

[balmy vortex]

He's a custom guitar builder, always has been

[wind mauve]

well if i suddenly find myself with $4400~ CAD

i will keep this in mind

[balmy vortex]

Literally makes all of Matt Bellamy his guitars

[wind mauve]

nice guitar dude does it play notes 🗣️⁉️

chords even 🤨❓

[lethal fractal]

I still think these bodies look like the back of a GPU

[balmy vortex]

New eclipses

[lethal fractal]

The big bro to my really weird Ibanez

[abstract pawn]

What is the acceptable scale length for double drop D# and drop F#?

I'm thinking of buying a 7 string to play mostly vildharja and HLB riffs (I know you can play HLB on a 6 string) and idk where to look for a guitar

[lethal fractal]

String gauges also play a big role into this

[abstract pawn]

I've been thinking about the Ibanez RGD7521PB-DSF but it has only 26,5 of scale length

[abstract pawn]

I'm thinking of using the strings for an 8 string

[lethal fractal]

90 gauge?

Or 80?

[abstract pawn]

Idk I still haven't checked the gauges

[lethal fractal]

Both of these even for D#1 on a 26.5 inch is very loose I wouldn't do anything under a 28 inch scale for those tunings

[abstract pawn]

Yeah idk where to find a 28 inch

Most of the guitars I saw are out of production

[lethal fractal]

Ormsby guitars has some multiscales
I don't like their guitars but they are an option.

I can take a look in a bit

[abstract pawn]

Discontinued I mean

[lethal fractal]

There is an RGRTBB21 from ibanez

Wait no

Wrong thing

Ya for some reason long scale 7 strings are harder to find 6 string baritone are easy

[abstract pawn]

Gear4music seems like a scam idk why

An 8 string for 200€

It's either crap or a crazy sale

But I've seen some gear4music reviews and they aren't that good

Especially the pick ups

[lethal fractal]

Never heard of them

[bright latch]

my jaguar is my favorite guitar to use. i mostly like use it from Skramz or grunge stuff

[lethal fractal]

I just think they look so goofy, I haven't played them much like twice though I have enjoyed them

The whammy system always hurts my brain haha
Always gives me anxiety

[bright latch]

i never use the whammy system. i hate them

[gritty garden]

A friend of mine put out a little video that might be of interest to you gigging musicians https://youtu.be/XiNY_Y0f51g?si=yi73-hyW1KyBr93t

[lethal fractal]

Cool will check this out

[silk wren]

Why is this such a bad take?

[abstract pawn]

It's the tim henson server

I mean

Nothing against it but

[balmy vortex]

Amp wall rearranged

[lethal fractal]

Nom nom

[silk wren]

Dude, even Tim said that it was a sexy fucking guitar

But why is that such an L take

It’s literally just the two of us agreeing on that shit

[silk wren]

That ENGL is a fucking Chugg machine

[balmy vortex]

All 4 of them

[silk wren]

Damn

[balmy vortex]

One of them is a 1 of 15

[silk wren]

I’m surprised I don’t see a old Mesa boogie up there

[silk wren]

Do you play professionally or some shit?

[balmy vortex]

Because we do only brand new

[balmy vortex]

I work at that store

[silk wren]

Oh

I thought that shit was just like your room

[balmy vortex]

[silk wren]

I was waiting for you to say you had 20,000 album sales in the past hour

[balmy vortex]

I know a few guys with a room like that, one of which I'm supplying amps to

[silk wren]

My local guitar store only has like cheap Squier affinity models and then $2000 guitars

[balmy vortex]

We start at 1000€

[silk wren]

OK now that is a fucking sexy guitar

[balmy vortex]

This 8 string was made for us in a special exclusive run

[silk wren]

I’m waiting for the 20,000 USD price tag

[balmy vortex]

It's 3899

We do have something on the way that's above that

€22899

[silk wren]

The only way you could make that cost more is if the inlay dots were real gold

[balmy vortex]

Oh there are plenty of ways

We had one guitar that was more than that esp exhibition model

[silk wren]

OK that’s actually insane

[balmy vortex]

€50000,-

[silk wren]

What insane man bought that?

[balmy vortex]

Collector

[silk wren]

And where is his house?

[balmy vortex]

That's classified

[silk wren]

I’m about to go door-to-door through every house in Europe

[abstract pawn]

I personally really like it, the colors match the build

[silk wren]

I’m just gonna swim there from the US

[silk wren]

Finally, someone else

[balmy vortex]

He's not in Europe

[silk wren]

There’s only 7 billion homes on this planet. I think I can get that done.

[abstract pawn]

I prefer the blue one tho

[balmy vortex]

They're alright tbh

[abstract pawn]

But it still looks good

[balmy vortex]

Not that special compared to other AZ's

[abstract pawn]

All AZ's look amazing imo

[silk wren]

Come on with the pick ups and the inlay just make it perfect for the artist tho

[balmy vortex]

For him yeah, but that's why it's a signature guitar. It's a guitar catered to him, not me

My needs in guitar are different thus I think it's an okay level guitar. We've also had to send back half of the ones we ever got

[silk wren]

Fair point

[silk wren]

Yeah, at the beginning, the quality control issues were pretty big but the customer support took care of all of it for me

[balmy vortex]

I'm talking from a dealer perspective, not consumer

[silk wren]

I know

I’m hoping he finally releases his 10 string model

[balmy vortex]

No

Just no

[balmy vortex]

And that was an 8 iirc

[silk wren]

I have tabs for a few songs that he did with a 10 string that’s why I assumed

I’ve been playing for a few years and I’m gonna have to wait a few more to be able to use the tabs

[balmy vortex]

Just start with them already

Take it slow and work in the muscle memory

That's how I learned some necrophagist songs

[silk wren]

I’ve been trying to play OD since 2021 and I am still yet to finish working through it

there is an annoying amount of sweeping in that song

[balmy vortex]

[silk wren]

Dude, the main riff is sweeping and tapping

Save that shit for the fucking solo

I can play tornado of souls easily, but not that shit

within the first three months of playing I was trying to sweep that song

It actually sounds better when I play it legato

[balmy vortex]

Wait till you try necrophagist and archspire

[silk wren]

Give me one second I’m gonna Google the tabs

[balmy vortex]

[balmy vortex]

Try stabwound - necrophagist

[silk wren]

This is the first thing that popped up

[silk wren]

Like metal shit I can do but this is still a little bit out of my range because the solo is insane

Ignominious and pale was the song

[balmy vortex]

Just take a gander at stabwound and fermented offal discharge

[silk wren]

Yes, I can at least play the main riffs of those just because in my practice routine there’s a solo Jason Richardson did

[balmy vortex]

Also the tab is slower than the song

[silk wren]

Damn

Like half speed?

[balmy vortex]

Not half but it's still sounding slower than the actual song

It's like a few bpm slower

[silk wren]

Like the fastest I can alternate pick is borderline 500 BPM but I can’t do it for longer than like a minute or else my hand hates me

[balmy vortex]

4th notes or 8th notes?

[silk wren]

I can manage 4th notes but 8th notes is where I feel burning in my entire arm

I need to start learning more songs like Altitudes by Jason Becker and shit

Kind of jazz inspired, but also shredy as fuck

[balmy vortex]

I'll stick to trying more inferi

Maybe some cytotoxin soon

[silk wren]

I just got a guitar that got put through a housefire

[balmy vortex]

[silk wren]

I’m 20 but I swear to God I sound like I’m 14 whenever I’m not trying to cover a Lorna Shore song

I took a good bit of the hardware out of a Kramer SM1 and I’m gonna replace it with that

I’m gonna make it a fixed bridge and where the trem used to go I’m just gonna add a built-in pedal + pre amp

[silk wren]

After I build it out, I might give it to NiK as a gift but I’m definitely slapping my logo on that fucking headstock

[lethal fractal]

Not this thing

[balmy vortex]

Yes

[lethal fractal]

Hehe

I was talking with some guys their local shop has some 100k USD guitars

[wind mauve]

whys it look like my grandmas hand soap

[lethal fractal]

Why does your soap look like that????

[wind mauve]

not my soap

my grandmas

[lethal fractal]

Why it look like that

[wind mauve]

the actual reason is cause my aunt buys these wacky ass fancy soaps from toronto and brings em up every time she visits ol gran gran

so im tryna wash my hands and the soap bars look like that and im like right so do i bite it first or what

[lethal fractal]

Lmfao

[fervent fox]

Theres no way that collector is gonna play that thing

[balmy vortex]

I mean I believe guitars have to be played, but this guy has fuck you money so I'm not questioning it

[wind mauve]

this is a fucking ahamkara skull from destiny

[fervent fox]

Oh I believe it lol! If you got the money why bother asking. “Holy shit! You want this guitar to be whaaaaaat??!?!? Do you have any idea how much— gets handed 50k …I’ll have it ready next Tuesday!”

[balmy vortex]

Yup

I mean he's a life long customer of us so we gucci

[fervent fox]

Must be nice to have money to piss away …idk I keep telling myself one day that’ll be me

[wind mauve]

i mean he's buying a wish dragon guitar he definitely used that ahamkara power for some nefarious things, o reader mine

just be careful if he goes for the oryx guitar next we don't need the taken to be the first destiny faction we have to fight irl

[open fjord]

https://youtu.be/n41cDG2ywe0?si=g6Pkr9R7f6e42mKn

[wind mauve]

i saw this as well, but i think i'm still more convinced with mark's PRS

when it comes to the 1000 - 1500 range at least

[open fjord]

Why you more convinced with Mark's PRS? O.o

[lethal fractal]

I like how PRS looks and that's about it lol

[wind mauve]

costs about $200 extra (CAD), looks cooler (yeah i fuckin said it), comes with the seymour duncans, the reviews i saw on the jackson SE HT7 mentioned some QC issues like glue coming off on the nut and such which is

not ideal

so i'm willing to save for the $1400 one that comes with the artist's sig pickups and also looks better than the neon orange or the mostly hideous burl

i mean the real goal would still be the manson oryx 7 in nolly greem but when it comes to like $1000-$1500 daily driver y'know

[lethal fractal]

Mayones

[wind mauve]

do they even got those at L&M tho

[lethal fractal]

No

You just order

That Jackson is ugly

[wind mauve]

the jackson is the misha one in question

but i can get both of those from L&M

which also influences my biases

[lethal fractal]

If the Jackson didn't have the black finish I probably would go for it, I mean I still would just due to me not liking how prs feels

Well I would not probably

[wind mauve]

😦

[lethal fractal]

Custom

Go for custom

I gt music test bye bye

[wind mauve]

good luck

[open fjord]

I like Duncans a lot.

But I got a set of BKP Cold Sweats I have yet to test.

[balmy vortex]

They guud

[open fjord]

I'm gonna replace my Deathbuckers with the Cold Sweats.

In my Strat.

The only bad thing about em is that they're G-Spaced not F-Spaced.

But as far as I'm aware, it doesn't make a difference.

[balmy vortex]

Correct

It's mainly a symmetry thing for looks

F-spaced makes no difference to regular

[abstract pawn]

Is a 27 inch scale 7 string good enough for F# standard?

[lethal fractal]

With the right strings yes

[lethal fractal]

For the low F# I'd use a 85 gauge string

[abstract pawn]

I was thinking of using some 8 string strings

[devout echo]

Damn what strings are yall using...

[silk wren]

I use baritone on my guitar tuned to drop C

[lethal fractal]

Try to get 85s or 90s

[lethal fractal]

105s-9

[abstract pawn]

Yeah, that's what I'm aiming for

[lethal fractal]

Good enjoy

[balmy vortex]

Depends on the tuning

[balmy vortex]

That's a little much for F#

[lethal fractal]

On a 27 inch?

[balmy vortex]

Yes

[lethal fractal]

He said he's going for an 8 string set... which 85s I would use, but they sometimes only come in 90s

[balmy vortex]

The tuner for a 7 isn't built for those strings so you're compromising the strength of that as well

[balmy vortex]

An 8 string eb is up to 74

[devout echo]

Damn my strings are like 9-52

6 strings

[balmy vortex]

What tuning

[devout echo]

Standard

[balmy vortex]

Try 9-46 next

[devout echo]

Nah i occasionally go really low

Like drop g

[balmy vortex]

Don't do that with a 9-52 set

Bruh

[devout echo]

Why?

[lethal fractal]

I use 90s for a low e on a 28 inch it's about 21lbs of tension so for a 27 inch f# 85 Guage is 21.6 lbs

[devout echo]

90s???

[balmy vortex]

Do you want shoe strings as strings that low

[lethal fractal]

For my 9th string I play around with 100s-115

[balmy vortex]

That's a lot, standard tension is like 15lbs for a string maybe a bit more

[devout echo]

Bruuh these are so thick

[devout echo]

Uhh

[lethal fractal]

Really?

I can't play 15lbs for my lower strings to floppy

[devout echo]

My most used tunings are

[lethal fractal]

Usually new strings for each tuning... (generally in a perfect world)

[devout echo]

Standard, drop C, drop A, drop A# and drop G

[devout echo]

.

[balmy vortex]

Yes

[balmy vortex]

Drop C: 10-52, drop a/a#: 12-56, drop G, 13-58

E standard 9-46

[lethal fractal]

I can't even play 18lbs is the least tension I'll play for my lower strings... higher strings ya it's fine 15-18 not for my thick strings

[devout echo]

Okay

[balmy vortex]

The difference between tunings is too big to have one single set for it

[devout echo]

Really?

[lethal fractal]

Yes

[balmy vortex]

Absolutely

[devout echo]

How?

Like lets say i get the one for drop g

[lethal fractal]

The other talk going on string tension

[balmy vortex]

You're going about 7 semitones at max

[devout echo]

Couldnt i use it for standard?

[lethal fractal]

Neck might fly off (joke)

You could but you would run into issues.

[balmy vortex]

You're throwing the tension of the neck off by a lot

[devout echo]

What issues?

[balmy vortex]

Neck twisting

[devout echo]

So like

What about the drop a one then?

[balmy vortex]

12-56

[devout echo]

Still too thick?

[balmy vortex]

No, the 12-56 is the right gauge for drop a 6 string

[devout echo]

But it doesnt work for other tunings?

[balmy vortex]

Maybe a step lower at most

[devout echo]

Wait how does lee malia use 80 gauge low string for c standard then?

[balmy vortex]

Idk

I don't recommend that at all

[devout echo]

It seems insane

[lethal fractal]

Also for my high e string on my 28 inch scale I have a 9 and it's 17.5 lbs which to me feels a bit to tight... Though for my low E I'd used a 85 which is 18.4 and it felt way to loose.

Then for my low C# it's was a 90 Guage which is 15lbs but that's so floppy to me.

[devout echo]

85 for a low e string?

[lethal fractal]

On an 8 string

[devout echo]

Ooh

[dry parrot]

do you guys know whether removing a plastic pickup cover will affect sound in any way, i know metal covers roll off the high end, but what about plastic, do they do anything at all?

i cant find much online for plastic emg style covers

[lethal fractal]

Won't really do much definitely won't be noticeable at high gain playing if you are running super super clean and being very specific with your tone then yes it is a change but not to the degree that it matters

[granite rapids]

Can someone help me find a replacement bridge for my ibanez GRG7221 7 string? I haven't been able to play for awhile because the saddles(?) have really bad screws and I can't fix them

One of the screws got stuck is what I'm trying to say

Does it matter what bridge I get?

I don't wanna accidentally screw into something in my guitar and potentially damage something

[lethal fractal]

Not another Gio :\

[lethal fractal]

The bridge they use is the F107 bridge you can look online to order a replacement then bring it to a local Luther to replace it.

As well if you can send an image of the bridge, I may be able to tell of you just need a new saddle or even just new screws if so local shops usually have extras just laying around

[granite rapids]

Okay

[granite rapids]

Don't judge I've had this since 2017

[lethal fractal]

I own one as well...

[granite rapids]

Imma send pics in a bit cuz I'm eating rn

[granite rapids]

Ah okay

[lethal fractal]

No worries

[granite rapids]

I have new pickups that I'm gonna install eventually

I'm gonna mod it

[lethal fractal]

You got any experience electronics and that sort of work?

[granite rapids]

Barely, so imma have it taken in and have them work on it

I don't trust myself not to fuck something up

I'm gonna have to learn eventually, because I wanna build a gaming pc as well

[wintry nova]

Here’s one of my grandpas old guitars, it’s an antique 1975 Electra (it still needs some slight repairs like the pickups and the pickup guards need replacing but about it

[lethal fractal]

Building a PC is pretty easy lots of good vidoes online :)
If you have questions about either PC or Guitar Building feel free to DM me I have built plenty of PCs and do a lot of guitar work.

[granite rapids]

I want

[lethal fractal]

That's pretty

[granite rapids]

Hardest part is cable management from what I've seen

[wintry nova]

Real

[lethal fractal]

A lot of cases nowadays have built in slots for all your cables

[wintry nova]

Luckily I found a guy in my area who builds and fixes guitars and stuff like that, he even has his own outdoor studio shed so hopefully he can be able to get replacements for the pickups

Also a vintage peavy guitar amp (unfortunately I don’t know the exact year it was released) 😔

[lethal fractal]

Check the serial number?

[granite rapids]

I have a music store in town that can do that stuff

I'm definitely gonna take it in

[wintry nova]

Idk who scratched all that other stuff out but at least the serial number is still visible

[lethal fractal]

Nixe

Ya who knows

[wintry nova]

Fr

[lethal fractal]

I'll look it up

[lethal fractal]

1986

That's when it was produced

:)

[lethal fractal]

Or 1980 if the number before the A is a 0 and not a 6

[wintry nova]

Well on the bright side at least I know it was at some point during the 80s

[lethal fractal]

It's a 6 looked closer... 1986 is when that was made

And yes good to know

[wintry nova]

Aight, thanks homie

[lethal fractal]

No worries

[wintry nova]

I’m just terrible at reading serial numbers lmao

[lethal fractal]

That's okay

[spice moth]

hey can someone record a sleep token style riff for me? at 164 bpm the key doesnt matter to me i just got a cool vocal melody (which i will record after i have more of the instrumental version made) and some drums i made and i wanna make a sleep token style track

[lethal fractal]

How much you willing to pay

[spice moth]

Shiiiii I didn't think about that

I don't have money so I'll have to see if I can someone to do it for free

[lethal fractal]

Good luck, I bet you can find someone who will do it for free but again Goodluck

[spice moth]

There was a dude here in this server that recorded a riff for me once, but I forgot his username

[lethal fractal]

This is cursed

[spice moth]

Here's the drum loop btw

[lethal fractal]

Probably be best to post it as a wav file usually what Daws prefer mp3 is good for the final thing.

[spice moth]

Ahhh, I'll send wav soon then

Taking out the doggos

[lethal fractal]

Nice

[wind mauve]

i bet

[spice moth]

Ahhhhh it's him

[wind mauve]

[gleaming wing]

I'd be willing to do it at some point, but I've got a lot of projects I'm working on rn

[wind mauve]

have him do it

sleep token stuff ain't my thing

[ancient path]

https://www.songsterr.com/a/wsa/psycho-frame-tabs-a89295

@wind mauve

[wind mauve]

i know.

thanks tho

sorry to clarify just in case,

that is the dude who uploaded the tracks

[graceful socket]

I suck ass at writing but just for fun I'd try to come up with something - question is what kind of Sleep Token riff you mean, they've got some different styles

[primal parrot]

Does anyone know how to achieve an Everchanger type tone in nolly?

[spice moth]

Like their kinda heavy but simple riffs, like in chokehold and the summoning

[lethal fractal]

Once I'm free I'd probably be able to try and build a similar tone.
How many strings you playing?

[primal parrot]

I'm on 7

It is tuned to f# right now but I think everchanger is mostly in G#

drop^

[lethal fractal]

Alright and what pickups are you using?

[primal parrot]

Its the standards in the ibanez ms7, Array passive or something

[lethal fractal]

Alright cool

[primal parrot]

thanks in advance man

[wind mauve]

what kind of amp do they use

[primal parrot]

The one in nolly? the third from the left or whatever

dont know which amp its supposed to be

[lethal fractal]

Amp 1 is a Bogner Shiva clean channel. Amp 2 is a 2203 Marshall JCM800. Amp 3 is a block-letter Peavey 5150

[primal parrot]

ah right peavey 5150 then @wind mauve

But i mean id use whichever of them that fits the tone the most

[wind mauve]

the band

5head

[primal parrot]

oh

sorry mate

[lethal fractal]

If he doesn't get to it first I'd probably end up modeling it Marshall as it's more suited for this... in my opinion

[wind mauve]

nah you're good i should've been more clear

[primal parrot]

yeah im not native and kind of dyslexic so sorry

I dont know what IA uses

[wind mauve]

yeah so what amps do the band use cause that'll help get the bulk of your tone

[lethal fractal]

I'll look

[lethal fractal]

But not so much if you are just modeling in nolly it just comes down to working in a similar tone

[wind mauve]

the realistic answer for nolly is using amp/cab 3 with both overdrive pedals

[primal parrot]

I think keaton has said that atleast heavener was tracked with nolly

[lethal fractal]

Keaton Goldwire only really has stuff about his guitar

[primal parrot]

but i mean isnt the 5150 pretty common in metalcore

[lethal fractal]

That's the last thing I'd try doing 😅
Although will find out when I get into it and try to work it out.

[lethal fractal]

Yes

[primal parrot]

so high chance they used it

[wind mauve]

yes thats why theres like four nDSPs that model it

including nolly

[primal parrot]

yeah

[wind mauve]

and thats why i have it

[lethal fractal]

Though all the amps are modeled by nolly and are tweaked to that person and as he's even mentioned he kinda did some funky stuff with that smp

[primal parrot]

I tried to find information about the tone but its impossible

[lethal fractal]

Amp

[wind mauve]

lowkey i'd be so down with an archetype periphery that models a peavey

[primal parrot]

I feel like the tone is pretty like stripped back in a sense

not very much OD maybe

[wind mauve]

start with all pedals off and just fuck with the amp head and mics

imo

[primal parrot]

ye probably

[lethal fractal]

Marshall's are also commonly used and the Marshall in nolly is the better for a more dirt sound where the 5150 they have is better for a crunch tone.

[primal parrot]

right

[wind mauve]

there's also the lead amp

amp 4

which i think is supposed to be a victory kraken-ish

conic doesnt like the victory

[primal parrot]

But to my ears amp 2 sounds more crunchy

[wind mauve]

i've gotten some nifty tones out of it

[lethal fractal]

Fuck my bad

I woke up 5 minutes ago

[primal parrot]

thats fine

[lethal fractal]

I'm thinking we are talking about the 4th amp already but kinda just forgot about the crunch amp and have been thinking there is 3 amps and was so confused

[primal parrot]

So which one is the marshall?

[lethal fractal]

The 2nd one... ya no the 5150 is the right one, it's the lead amp that is goofy

The Marshall is also pretty modified

[primal parrot]

alright

[lethal fractal]

Anyways if you don't get a tone by time I'm free let me know

[wind mauve]

the lead amp is fine but also the only time i’d use the cab switching tool

because it sounds better with cab 3

[lethal fractal]

Yes

Although for our application it's just a no

[wind mauve]

cab 4 sounds weird overall

i see

[primal parrot]

Yeah i will probably not since im pretty new to the amp sim

bought it like 5 days ago

[wind mauve]

i admit i have no idea what the song/band/etc you’re tryna get is

[lethal fractal]

Sounds good, it's the one I know the best lol.
Yet my brain is still waking up.

[lethal fractal]

Invent animate

[primal parrot]

Invent animate everchanger

[wind mauve]

yeah that’s not something i’ve listened to

[primal parrot]

youre missing out

one of my all time favourite bands/album

[lethal fractal]

I don't listen to much metalcore anymore but I used to a lot

[primal parrot]

you listen to like death metal?

[lethal fractal]

Prog and very technical death metal

[primal parrot]

ah nice

out of my playing ability sadly

[lethal fractal]

Ya that's fair, I'm learning all of archspire on bass and guitar maybe not some of the older stuff for bass but definitely guitar.

[primal parrot]

awesome man I'm learning the cloud cascade breakdown riff right now. I can play it almost 90% speed

its easier than i thought

[lethal fractal]

Starting slow is always the best way

[primal parrot]

definetly

[wind mauve]

death metal, deathcore, metalcore but like the actual hardcore metal one, mathcore, some progressive metal

[primal parrot]

nice man

Im not really into old metalcore, more like the modern stuff

IA ERRA and stuff

[wind mauve]

no comment from me

listen to what you like

[lethal fractal]

Both are have good and bad bands

[primal parrot]

Thornhill also

yeah

I like periphery also of course

not metalcore though

[wind mauve]

what are they then

what genre

[primal parrot]

prog?

[wind mauve]

you pass this time

[primal parrot]

lets go

theyre not prog?

[wind mauve]

they're progressive metalcore

some would call that djent

but they made a whole album about that

[primal parrot]

djent is not a genre lollo

lol

its a style ;)

[lethal fractal]

I have a Playlist with near 10,000 songs so I listen to a very wide verity of music and still am very in depth in the punk scene just only for live music to boring to listen to

[primal parrot]

damnnn'

[wind mauve]

but yeah for the tone you want you could also check the interwebs and see if anyone has made a preset for nolly for the tone you want

[primal parrot]

have you guys heard of Holy Fawn?

[primal parrot]

Yeah i have cant find anything

[lethal fractal]

I've looked around there is jack

[wind mauve]

yeah its weird that nolly comes with like 0 presets as well

most nDSP have artist presets

so if nolly actually came with any it might've had one from this band

[primal parrot]

yeah I dont think IA is famous enough for that

atleast with everchanger

[wind mauve]

i thought they were pretty popular i do see people in here talk about them a lot

[primal parrot]

yeah sure

300 k/month

[wind mauve]

that's pretty good for metal

[primal parrot]

i guess

@lethal fractal just let me know when youre free. Im going to study some math for a while sadly

just ping me here

[lethal fractal]

Probably tomorrow

[primal parrot]

Great man thanks

When is tomorrow for you anyway haha

[lethal fractal]

No worries love trying to help.

In 14 and a half hours... that's when tomorrow starts although it would be some time after school for me.

[primal parrot]

great

[graceful socket]

aight. lemme see if I can come up with smth

[lethal fractal]

Just for everyone what tuning are you playing in, so they know what to play in... or do you want them just writing a riff not playing one?

[spice moth]

Fuck I realize I neva thought of a lot of stuff

I don't have a guitar or anything

And I don't play

[lethal fractal]

Ah

[graceful socket]

I´d just go with Drop D#, that´s what Chokehold and The Summoning are in I think. In any case, I dont think it matters much as long as it´s low and got the right tonality to it

or just got Vore which is Double Drop B afaik

Or Drop B0, depending on what you prefer calling it

[lethal fractal]

I ment to say key signature 😅

[graceful socket]

oh, alright. In that case: fuck if I know, I´ve got no clue lmao

[lethal fractal]

Haha ya, pretty important when it comes to writing

[lethal fractal]

Double pinging as I noticed I asked the wrong questions. Do you know what tuning you want it to be in?

[fervent fox]

It’s never too late to start

[spice moth]

Drop D# sounds good

[spice moth]

I'm a broke 15 yr old, I would love to start guitar but don't have the money to get a guitar or amp

[lethal fractal]

Fuck me I said the same thing twice I'm to tired to be asking questions