#Guitars & Bass

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vocal hearth
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I love trivium

dire kayak
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guitar done

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the bridge pickup didn't work so I spent twice the cost of the guitar to replace it

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but now it's awesome

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plays great because it's well broken in already

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what's funny is this is so old it used to be white but now it's a cream color

dry parrot
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the responsiveness of the tremolo is weird tbh

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im used to a floyd rose

toxic wharf
dry parrot
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its a standard ibanez gio

open fjord
open fjord
lethal fractal
dry parrot
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is that namm

wind mauve
balmy vortex
balmy vortex
wind mauve
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in andrew banana's hands?

balmy vortex
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Nah, in my own CreepNik

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I did see Andrew and agufish

wind mauve
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on a secondary note, dimarzio pickup is in

dry parrot
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ive heard a lot about it

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and i really feel like im missing out

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especially because i live in anaheim, less than 20 mins away fro mthe convention center

balmy vortex
timid flicker
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I got my zero reds today

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Actually just now I opened em

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Absolutely amazing

timid flicker
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I have no words.

fervent fox
balmy vortex
fervent fox
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@balmy vortex Do you think Ibanez had a good turnout this year?

balmy vortex
fervent fox
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But did they have any new Prestige models to showcase?

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Or anything from their Iron Label and Axion series?

limber lark
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finally changed strings after a billion years

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feels awesome

lethal fractal
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I bet

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Have fun for a few days haha

limber lark
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thx lol

verbal fossil
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one take guitar playthough with no video cuz it would be too heavy and i'm lazy to take my webcam out of the la thing i made that 1st part is so hard lmao

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it's the best take i've ever got in 1 take

balmy vortex
fervent fox
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That’s…disappointing Sadge

balmy vortex
fervent fox
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Hope so! I was always looking forward to seeing their newer yearly prestige models.

balmy vortex
somber vault
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Let’s fucking go

toxic wharf
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'Murica

open fjord
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Also

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New Rob Scallon signature guitars from Schecter.

lethal fractal
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I actually kinda like those

wind mauve
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ayo they’re fanned fret too?

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do we got an MSRP yet

open fjord
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Uhhhh

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Let me check

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I think someone posted it in Agufish's server.

open fjord
wind mauve
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well the sale isn’t lasting long enough for me to get that kinda money

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that’s pretty sick tho

open fjord
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Schecters are great mid range guitars but damn their sigs are so pricey.

wind mauve
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i really want the glassjaw sig

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if i ever get another six string it’s gonna be that one

wind mauve
open fjord
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Honestly my other issue is LTDs have gotten dummy expensive. Especially the lower tiered ones for some reason.

open fjord
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Mid range is anywhere from 600 to 1000

wind mauve
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i consider 1,000 to 1,500 to be about mid range just cause everything is so expensive these days

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a $600 guitar is practically entry level

open fjord
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Idk about that.

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Squire is doing some great quality things for 500 and under.

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The 40th Anniversary stuff is STUPID good. And their like 350 or something.

lethal fractal
toxic wharf
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4k is Ernie ball range lmao

open fjord
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For real

toxic wharf
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American made Abasi's

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What else? High end PRS's

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1500 can be considered high mid range

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Or cheaper top line

lethal fractal
wind mauve
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tbf to me as well

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im canadian

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a $999 USD guitar is $1,400 CAD

lethal fractal
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Yea :\

wind mauve
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i love it here but like lowkey

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i hate it here 😭

lethal fractal
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Come to London

open fjord
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Ohhh

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That makes a little more sense now why you said 1000 to 1500 is mid range.

wind mauve
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im not goin back

open fjord
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Yeah here in the states, 1500 isn't mid range.

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That's like low high range.

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1000 to 1200 is like upper mid range.

lethal fractal
lethal fractal
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It's a bit less but ya...

toxic wharf
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Its Indonesian made...not sure that counts as high range considering whats normally considered topline

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Even Strandbergs are no longer that

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Or at least most of their guitars

lethal fractal
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Very true

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Tim Hensons guitar for the price is quite nice.

open fjord
gleaming wing
open fjord
toxic wharf
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I dont know why, but Schecter guitars have always been ugly to me

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Despite that sweet color scheme this is no exception

toxic wharf
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No I still think they are horrendously ugly

toxic wharf
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Especially that color scheme

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Seriously...what adult wants to be seen with that?

wispy flint
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black and white?

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lol

wispy flint
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i sure do now

toxic wharf
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Each to their own

wispy flint
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you say that, yet when you say "what adult wants to be seen with that" makes it seem like it's wrong to enjoy that design and be seen with it

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there's nothing wrong with it

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yo this goes hard

toxic wharf
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There is to me

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It looks pear shaped

wispy flint
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okay? but you're inadvertently insulting someone for being seen with it lol

toxic wharf
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Ok

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?

wispy flint
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what

lethal fractal
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There bodies are somewhat comfortable don't like shecters necks

wispy flint
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the back leaves a bit to be desired tbh

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but that front is so pretty

wispy flint
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seems like a guitar i could get into

lethal fractal
wispy flint
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i think that one is gorgeous

lethal fractal
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I owned an omen 8 for the longest time, really didn't like it but I had to use it

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First 8 string I had gotten

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Just recently started playing these and so far been really enjoying them

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I want a GOC guitar really badly

wind mauve
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they're incredibly nice to use i cant go back to normal picks anymore

dire kayak
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really just depends on the state of then

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them

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I go for about 6 months on most of my guitars before they crap out, and then about 1-2 months for my one or two main guitars I play all the time

lethal fractal
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I got bored and may or may not have started taking apart my cheap guitar fully so I can figure out how the thing works

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Main reason I did this I think the volume nob is broken it spins pretty freely with a bit of resistance near the end then just spins so might replace it.

ruby zephyr
lethal fractal
ruby zephyr
lethal fractal
wind mauve
# ruby zephyr maybe this isn't the exact place to ask but, should i buy this one? it's a B.C R...

one time at my guitar shop i saw an EVH shark guitar on the display floor and mentioned it to my guitar teacher, who told me the story that van halen took his buddy’s explorer guitar and chainsaw’d it to create the look it has, only to find that it was slowly splitting in half so he had to attach a bar between the “v” on the body.

this guitar looks like what someone would imagine EVH’s chainsaw’d explorer would look like if they never saw the actual thing, and i’m not convinced it hasn’t been chainsaw’d.

but if you like it, don’t let it being a six string stop you!

median hemlock
open fjord
toxic wharf
# open fjord Why do you think they ugly.

They look chubby at the bottom of the body, like a pear shape. They dont have a very ergodynamic or 'sharp' look to them which contrasts too much with what they seem to cater to: metal. I have the same with some of the ESP and LTD double cutaway models

lethal fractal
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I found that chubby bottom really uncomfortable to rest my arm on.

open fjord
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Schecter "super strats" are more akin to rear routed full fat Strats with super strat features body wise.

toxic wharf
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Yeah that bodystyle is just a mismatch for the schecter C and Omen line.

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It really makes it unappealing

open fjord
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I actually like Schecter body shapes.

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Mostly because I enjoy full fat Strats.

toxic wharf
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I do like strats as well

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But they have a very different appeal than Schecter

open fjord
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But I do understand the reason they seem a little unappealing. Full fat Strats are a bit thinner body wise and have more contours like the arm relief on the bottom. While most Schecters outside the Traditional line don't have that.

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Most super strats don't have that arm relief in general but they compensate for the lack of contours and thicker body by having a smaller body and slightly longer but thinner horns.

toxic wharf
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Yes like RG models

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Which are very sexy imo

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I mean...I also like the SA...I think Ibanez in general makes good looking stuff.

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Currently Im in love with the Kaizen and will buy one this year. Never felt something that plays so smooth

open fjord
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I've played most LTDs and I enjoy them all for the most part.

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My favorite being the SN-200.

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Or the Snapper series in general.

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But I think they suffer from the lack of contours despite the bigger and thicker body mentality you see in Schecter.

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Stay Metal Ray (or Xander Raymound Charles now) actually says it's one of the reasons he didn't renew his contract with Balaguer for his sig. Because the lack of the arm rest despite the bigger and thicker body meant his shoulder had to be in a different position which actually hurt because of the surgeries he had on it.

open fjord
fervent fox
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Took a look at some of Legator’s new stuff. Slaughter To Prevail’s new sig is pretty cool

wind mauve
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oh shit legator got new stuff?

lethal fractal
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Always

wind mauve
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apparently they have a new ghost model

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that's cheaper than their other ones, no fanned fret but a 26.5" scale

lethal fractal
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They should focus on QC before new guitars to be fair.

wind mauve
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they have dude

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the QC issues on guitars from like

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4-6 years ago

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every review of their newer models has shown that the QC's improved significantly

lethal fractal
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It definitely has been getting better

wind mauve
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hm

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FGN guitars...

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i've never heard of these guys but these look cool

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that's a 7-string tele with fishman fluences

fervent fox
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Heard of them. They’re like a subdivision of Legator iirc.

toxic wharf
wind mauve
toxic wharf
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Same with the indonesian made Abasi Laradas

wind mauve
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and a review i watched mentioned offhandedly that they also were the company that built ibanez prestige models

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but lowkey tho

toxic wharf
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They are Japanese made guitars if Im correct

wind mauve
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they are japanese made

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and it is a japanese company

fervent fox
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Huh I forget how I found out about them. Thought it was through Legator Shruge

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But I’m just looking through and reminiscing on how Fernandes Guitars were a thing. Good guitars SeemsGood

wind mauve
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it was for me

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cause i saw a video from NAMM of the legator and FGN booths

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and i realized that i really wanted a 7-string tele with fishmans

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lethal fractal
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wind mauve
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oh shit andrew banana

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ok if he likes it it's settled

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im gettin this

lethal fractal
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Pro top rip the pads of your fingers clean off rock climbing abunch so you don't have feeling in your fingers so you can play guitar all you want

subtle bay
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guys i cannot use an amp to record my guitar since it will make too much noise for my neighbours and wish to do it through my pc, how can I achieve this? and any software you recommend me to use?

lethal fractal
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You will also need an interface to connect your guitar to your computer some decent speakers are useful bot not needed.
A digital Audio workspace would make things easier as well

subtle bay
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Ive got some decent speakers, edifier r1700bt

What interface would you recommend for me? kinda new to this overall

lethal fractal
subtle bay
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And what does a digital audio workspace do? Is it only usefull for recording? or does it also adjust the sound I hear

lethal fractal
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I'd recommend reaper though lots of options I use reaper and FL studio as my Digital audio workspaces (DAW)

subtle bay
lethal fractal
# lethal fractal Neural DSP

@subtle bay Nueral DSP has there own discord server as well if you do choose to go down that path of using their plugins it's a nice place for general questions there support team is also pretty fast to respond and helpful

subtle bay
gritty garden
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Pretty much. I'd go for the 2i2 just in case you need to scale up in the future, or should one of the jacks fail on the solo

subtle bay
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Allright, and is the output being sent towards the 3.5mm ports or can it be send towards the usb C port aswell

gritty garden
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I believe if you're using the AMP sim as a standalone it'll send the output through your PC speakers? But if you're using it in a DAW then the Focusrite will be your sound card and you'll require headphones/monitors attached to it.

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If I'm wrong about the amp sim standalone part then it'll be the same as using a DAW

lethal fractal
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With the amp SIM you can chose where the output is being directed... When I'm using my daw I can chose the output source just the same

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I haven't played with the DAW output being anything else then what I have plugged into my DI so I really can't say but I'd assume it's the same for both

subtle bay
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Kinda confused about amp sim and DAW right now but will take a look at it tomorrow
I think it's like this, I should use a DAW (like reaper) and I can use amp sims (like neuraldsp) to amplify the guitar input that is being sent towards the DAW?

gritty garden
wind mauve
lethal fractal
lethal fractal
wind mauve
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no it's fine i just can't help but imagine all the memes

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FL is definitely more of like a hip-hop/pop production tool stereotypically

lethal fractal
lethal fractal
wind mauve
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😭😭😭

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godspeed brother

lethal fractal
lethal fractal
wind mauve
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🫡

gritty garden
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The DI will go into either the Amp Sim or DAW. If you use the AMP Sim inside the DAW you'll be applying an FX to the DI and you can tweak the gain of it a number of ways

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It's not like if you captured the wet signal from an amp and are stuck with it.

subtle bay
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Ahh right I was just confused with a virtual amp sim and a physical one.

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It’s much clearer now thanks

toxic wharf
toxic wharf
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Also good tip: if you use a focusrite and neural dsp plugins dial the pre-gain on the interface all the way to 0

wind mauve
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^^^

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figured that one out right quick

toxic wharf
lethal fractal
open fjord
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My Lace Deathbuckers due to their design being so radically different like to be pushed.

toxic wharf
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Its from the programmers themselves. Just like you dont really push a pre gain knob in front of a normal amp you shouldnt do it on the plugins

open fjord
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All has to do with the flow of electricity.

open fjord
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Most pickups are a conventional voltage based design which is why Neural tells you that. They don't expect you to use something weird like a Alumitone which has a different design all together.

toxic wharf
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How would you calculate the input gain on those type of pick ups?

wind mauve
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oops

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"ah yeah perfect the halo is green when i tremolo low notes and play chords, that means i'm right"

applies FX to DI
"ah yeah perfect despairge"

open fjord
# toxic wharf How would you calculate the input gain on those type of pick ups?

A lot of the time I kinda eyeball so to speak and adjust it accordingly because these pickups are designed to work with tube amps and not a plugin on a computer I need to drive them quite a bit to about the 10 or 11 o clock positions. If you wanna be super anal about it you record a small clip in your daw and look at the wavelength compared to that of your normal pickup and adjust it until you get it right.

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Honestly I follow the Misha Mansoor method of don't be afraid to turn up the Gain knob if you have to. As long you don't peak and it sounds good you should be fine.

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You're never gonna know what sounds good or bad unless you try it y'know?

open fjord
balmy vortex
balmy vortex
open fjord
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Clearance.

balmy vortex
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Nice

open fjord
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The neck was wee bit thinner and wider than I would've liked but I really liked it.

balmy vortex
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That's Floyd necks

lethal fractal
open fjord
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Lol

open fjord
open fjord
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That's not the only one I played.

lethal fractal
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Haha ya

balmy vortex
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Tried this in GC Hollywood

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Was pretty good

lethal fractal
balmy vortex
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It's a good guitar for sure

lethal fractal
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I like those fret dots always have

balmy vortex
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Same here, hollow dots are the best

lethal fractal
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I want a gold sparkle guitar that still has some of the wood I really like good sparkle

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Gold

balmy vortex
lethal fractal
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Is that the more orange one?

balmy vortex
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Glitterstorm is a style of finish they do

lethal fractal
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It's to orange

balmy vortex
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This is just one of the versions lol

lethal fractal
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Not so sparkle but that finish

balmy vortex
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Another glitterstorm

lethal fractal
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They are nice I forget who I follow who showed some off

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I think keyan

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Or how ever his name is spelt I'm tired

balmy vortex
lethal fractal
balmy vortex
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It is yes

lethal fractal
balmy vortex
lethal fractal
balmy vortex
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Closest is Brandon Ellis his sparkle crackle and that's a whole different thing

lethal fractal
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Or is that full custom

balmy vortex
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That's just a sparkle burst

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And yes it's a custom

lethal fractal
open fjord
balmy vortex
lethal fractal
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I want to get into custom guitars but I really don't know where to start... I really want a GOC guitar but seems like they don't make them anymore or something?

open fjord
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My purple senses were tingling

lethal fractal
lethal fractal
# open fjord

Looks pretty I just can't rest my arm on these comfortably

balmy vortex
lethal fractal
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I also want to reach out to aristides for a custom guitar but can't figure out there website

balmy vortex
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Aristides is good

lethal fractal
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Sure are

balmy vortex
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They're the homies

lethal fractal
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I just can't figure how to build a guitar

open fjord
lethal fractal
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Me and my plastic red pickups I want that still to be my signature touch to guitars

balmy vortex
lethal fractal
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The kitchen I'll be building in my house will be black, red and white themed so I want a guitar to match that just to be a nerd

balmy vortex
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Speccing a guitar means you're gonna be looking at what you want out of a guitar and for what tuning

open fjord
lethal fractal
balmy vortex
lethal fractal
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Oh ya can't tune

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My brain is very sleepy

balmy vortex
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But drop a 26.5 straight non headless evertune they can do

lethal fractal
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I like the headless bodies really badly that's what I want a look

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I wonder if something can be done like that with an evertune

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Like the GOC VAJRA+ is such a hot guitar I also like the satya+

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My sleepy brain is making up some bs guitar

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I'm going to make a headless test and headstock.

lethal fractal
balmy vortex
lethal fractal
lethal fractal
lethal fractal
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Those two options (hopefully right ss)

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As well custom design on the pickups is that a yes or no?

balmy vortex
lethal fractal
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Cool

balmy vortex
lethal fractal
balmy vortex
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Word

lethal fractal
lethal fractal
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Aristides it is.

balmy vortex
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Only artists can get customs

lethal fractal
balmy vortex
lethal fractal
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I got hope none the less if I could I'd go fully with ibanez unless aristides feels better then I'll just have fun with their stuff.

balmy vortex
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Aristides feels better than la customs

lethal fractal
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With the builder in aristides is there a way to see a mockup of the finished product I know kiesel does it.

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Just before I blow that kinda cash I'd want to know what it looks like.

balmy vortex
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Are you going custom finish or raw series?

lethal fractal
balmy vortex
lethal fractal
balmy vortex
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Ye

lethal fractal
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Oh? I gotta be blind I don't think I got one of those... Although I also didn't complete the full order as not sure where that would go and don't feel like committing to a guitar currently.

balmy vortex
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Go explore their website

lethal fractal
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I badly need to

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God dumb those are a lot of pickup options (I'm making like 6 guitars my dream 6

balmy vortex
balmy vortex
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Very good

lethal fractal
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My favorite chord of the day

Gm(addb9,add11)

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It's really pretty

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Or Bb13 I guess works as well

scenic dune
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I can’t read music but that sounds cool

deft reef
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I need help

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I have a boss ds-1 and it a metal zone

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The metal zone works good sounds good with good settings but the ds-1 makes the amp supper quite

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I did not have this problem a few months ago

lethal fractal
# deft reef I need help

Most likely something in the circuit is failing, what happens when you turn the level nob up or down does it take affect or stay the same?

deft reef
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The clean tone is a lot louder

lethal fractal
# deft reef The clean tone is a lot louder

When the pedal isn't engaged?

As I said it seems like something in the pedal is broken unless just some setting is set incorrectly.
Are you able to send a picture of the pedal chain you have going on?

open fjord
lethal fractal
# deft reef This is it as of rn

It looks fine I wouldn't have the distortion that high but chain looks fine.
My best guess something inside has broke I'm not sure what component would cause that issue.
I had a similar issue with a volume pedal I had to get a new part and replace it.

lethal fractal
deft reef
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Could it also be because of the tuning

lethal fractal
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(Play all the way up the fret board to find out)

deft reef
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Ok so it’s a little bit better but nothing campared to the cal or Mt

lethal fractal
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It seems to just be that output part of the circuit may just be no good sadly.

deft reef
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Dang

lethal fractal
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Someone who knows a bit more about pedals may have a second opinion I could ask some of my electrical engineer friends but hard to get much done over text.

quasi mirage
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I’m dying inside imagining that tone

deft reef
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Mt2 not to bad once tweaked right

quasi mirage
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It’s my primary distortion pedal

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My pedal board is literally just a DS1 and a DT Drop

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Gets the job done

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But I’m gonna invest in more pedals

deft reef
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Me to

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Ok opens it up

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Fixed it

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I swapped the position with mt2 and it’s a lot louder now

wispy flint
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what type of harmonics are used at 0:50?

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natural or pinched?

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in lower tunings I can't exactly tell

lethal fractal
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I'd have to really know which part you are listening to

wispy flint
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2nd note of the 1st bar of the breakdown

lethal fractal
wispy flint
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gotcha

lethal fractal
# wispy flint gotcha

Just from covers and things it looks like natural the bass is doing some weird things though

river spear
lethal fractal
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I like the body a lot

river spear
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from my understanding that seems to be the main feature, right? That it's like a classical guitar made for the comfort of electric players

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How do you feel the body of the guitar?

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or just the guitar in general

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because I think they're basically the same but with a different neck inlay and pickup

lethal fractal
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It's nothing like a proper classical guitar at all same strings but that doesn't really matter same headstock. I really enjoy it not a massive fan of the bridge but completely functional.
I like the body I find it very comfortable the neck is also quite comfortable, the finish on the headstock has a lot of paint runs on it not impressed with that but it's a minor thing.

And yes they are the same just different pickups and not having the inlay

river spear
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I meant to compare it to a classical guitar in terms of sound not necessarily on the way the guitar itself is shaped

lethal fractal
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I'm currently in the works of getting a heavily customized Aristides guitar super happy about that.

They made a really cool "classical guitar" having no pickups on their body looks really cool I'll find the photo

lethal fractal
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I mean even classical guitars all sound different...

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Though that guitar really isn't ment to be played not plugged in

river spear
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I heard it did so I got the wrong info I guess

lethal fractal
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It sounds like it has nylon strings but with such a small body and just how it's constructed it doesn't resonate the same.

lethal fractal
# river spear what?

It isn't a guitar that's to ment to be played unplugged it's still loud but not the same doesn't have the full resonate sound and feel.

river spear
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Got it

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how long have you had it for?

lethal fractal
river spear
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I'd love to have that

lethal fractal
river spear
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forgive me if I'm late to respond I'm going to check that out

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I'm on their website, what's the name of the guitar?

river spear
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That's sick as hell

lethal fractal
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They also have this really pretty thing

river spear
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they're both beautiful instruments

lethal fractal
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Currently get all the art done for mine they aren't cheap and can take over a year to get made but I'm willing to get a really nice custom guitar

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Getting*

river spear
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I don't blame you

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nothing beats having a pretty guitar in your hands and making it go pipiripiripipipi

lethal fractal
#

I got no clue what those sounds are haha but I get the idea. So... YES

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I'm getting there headless model 7 string with a whammy bar as the first one and most customized.

The I plan down the road 10 years from now over getting 3 or 4 more less customized and more just to have as nice guitars.

river spear
#

I mean this on the best way possible what a brag

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good for you

lethal fractal
#

That's the plan who knows where life will take it maybe by then new guitar companies better technology

river spear
#

true

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with every year the line between guitar and harp blurs just a little more

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talking only about string count

lethal fractal
#

I think more of it like a lute

graceful socket
#

whenever I see an Aristides guitar I get tempted to make the worst financial decision of my life lmao

lethal fractal
graceful socket
#

yeah idk about that

toxic wharf
#

Aristides are funnily enough not as expensive as some other boutique but non-custom guitars from big brands

#

Thinking about Music Man, Abasi concepts, some PRS lines.

#

4000-5000 euros for a build is not a terrible deal

lethal fractal
#

Ya they are pretty good the wait times aren't to bad either. Currently talking with the team and getting questions answered about what I'd possible as I want some very custom paint jobs.

toxic wharf
lethal fractal
#

For what I'm trying to get probably double that or so

toxic wharf
#

I like Aristides but for me they dont have a lot to offer I couldnt find in stock guitars.

lethal fractal
#

It's very different from conventional tone woods and what you can do with the wood. It's a whole different style of customization took me a bit to understand still working out questions

toxic wharf
lethal fractal
#

I'm more talking the looks of different woods

toxic wharf
#

I saw a dude chopping little pieces away from his guitar and it still sounded the same

toxic wharf
#

Its sustainable which I like a lot

lethal fractal
#

Yes I know... I'm saying that's the thing I'm having to get used to with customization is that there isn't woods to put a finish over so you can't play with that you got to make a paint finish you like or just go raw

toxic wharf
#

Yeah but the raw models are still painted

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Or at least have a colored top-layer

lethal fractal
#

Yes though it's apart of the exoskeleton just has a protective top coat

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It's a very interesting process I'm interested to see how the neck feels with it all being one piece

toxic wharf
#

Its quite decent. Ive played an aristides

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Im not sure you can ask how they finish up the neck because it does feel a bit like a painted/gloss finish

lethal fractal
toxic wharf
glacial osprey
#

@balmy vortex my store just emailed me this morning 😭 I have 5 more hours of work

balmy vortex
glacial osprey
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Store owner: "should be in next shipment this or next month" 1 week later

balmy vortex
median hemlock
open fjord
bright latch
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anyone know any good ibanez models that are 300 dollars that aren't Gio's(i heard they suck)

glacial osprey
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Any non-GIO will probably be $500 minimum

bright latch
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Cause that’s my budget at the moment

deft reef
#

Just got some new petals

wind mauve
#

gio's are probably the best budget guitars you can get especially when it comes to extended range models

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the budget jacksons i've been told just aren't as good

bright latch
wind mauve
#

what's your current guitar

bright latch
wind mauve
#

i mean that sounds like it’d be pretty emo

bright latch
wind mauve
#

a

bright latch
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So idk what to buy in its place

wind mauve
#

well yeah if your budget is $300 then budget guitars are really all you can go for, aside from like a used dean

gleaming wing
#

I have the RG seven string in that color

bright latch
dry parrot
bright latch
dry parrot
#

out of curiosity what strings do you run

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im looking to experiment a bit, had the same ernie balls for as long as i've been playing guitar

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because different strings are supposed to play really different right

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or are they similar

bright latch
dire kayak
#

also finally hung up my last two guitars, now I don't have to trip over guitars filling all the floor stands in my room

bright latch
dire kayak
#

I use regular slinky on all but my Jackson guitars and my Floyd rose

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Floyd rose is heavier slinkies to balance out the Floyd better, and then Jackson's I love to downtune and I think i use that setup

dry parrot
#

my current plugin presets are already almost inaudible with it

#

still trying to get a good tone

#

dialing in an 8 string must be a nightmare

toxic wharf
deft reef
lethal fractal
dry parrot
#

is it formulaic or you just do whatever till it works

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because i did that for 6 strings and now i think i found a good 7 string one

lethal fractal
#

Good tone is subjective to each person's needs... After using amps and amp Sims and spending time figuring out what they are doing and how they work it makes it easier for you to get the basic tone you want then you can tweak it from there.

toxic wharf
#

Use the least amount of gain you can get away with

dry parrot
#

ok ty

primal parrot
#

Guys any tips on finding the key signature for thally riffs? I basically got a whole song i have no idea how to program drums to

lethal fractal
#

seems like time

primal parrot
primal parrot
lethal fractal
primal parrot
#

Im pretty sure the riff is in time just weird signature

lethal fractal
#

If you want it all to be in the same time signature then you could choose a time sig you want to write in and then break the guitar part down so it fits and then just write the drum part.

#

Pick a tempo and a tim sig and just write the riff into that time

#

You could just do 4/4 to keep it simple then just use note groupings for the guitar

primal parrot
lethal fractal
primal parrot
#

thall should be strange so its fine

lethal fractal
#

here is some stuff you could use to get an idea

primal parrot
lethal fractal
#

sorta complex rhythms but you can break it all down pretty easily and find where the notes land

toxic wharf
# primal parrot sorry time signature

What I tend to do when I dont know the time signature of a riff, record the the riff without metronome. Than tap the tempo for the meteonome to the riff and see where the transcients land so you can visually determine the time signature

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Sometimes its better to re-record the riff the tempo. Pro-tip: dont accent the first beat of the metronome in your daw

primal parrot
lethal fractal
#

Opening it up

toxic wharf
#

Theres some things you can take into account for realism, but the above would be a good principle to practice with

primal parrot
#

still not able to get the drums as i want them

toxic wharf
#

Nice 💪

#

Its perfectly fine

#

I hated doing drums in the beginning

primal parrot
#

yeah its just for testing

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yeah

toxic wharf
#

But later I got the hang off it and now its a lot of fun

primal parrot
#

yeah and I need to get a good sampler and stuff

toxic wharf
#

You get into some tricks which help you to completely 'milk' a riff

primal parrot
#

im just using free vsts at the moment

toxic wharf
#

I use a lot of stock plugins from my DAW

primal parrot
#

Which one?

toxic wharf
#

Studio One 6

primal parrot
#

ah

toxic wharf
#

But for drums I use Superior Drummer

primal parrot
#

Nice

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i want to get modern and massive i think

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ideally a real drummer lol

#

But i think i managed to milk my riff a little

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or atleast make it more interesting by pitch shifting it

gleaming wing
#

I use ML drums right now and they are pretty good

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And my DAW is Reaper

wind mauve
#

everyone's turning into cultists

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not me

#

i could never

lethal fractal
#

Damn very happy with how I did setting up my guitar and polishing and leveling the frets

wind mauve
lethal fractal
#

Long setup still going the guitar store I took it to they fucked it up baddddd

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Started at like 6

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I mean new pots as well... But everything needed an adjustment

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Besides the intonation that was perfect

lethal fractal
#

Getting a new input jack for her as she badly needs one

river spear
#

7 strings, nice

lethal fractal
river spear
lethal fractal
#

Super cheap ibanez pickups probably will replace them someday, they also are not anywhere near how hot I'd like mine to be for ceramic pickups they are reading 5 and 5.6 Ohms

river spear
#

then you probably should, got any pickups in mind?

lethal fractal
#

I'd probably use them for a different seven when i get it...

river spear
#

they look sick

lethal fractal
#

They are fully customizable

deft reef
lethal fractal
#

Good luck with the guitar when you get it

lethal fractal
#

It needed a lot of work.
More then half the frets needed leveling as well not sure if they changed the input jack but it is one of the worst jacks so going to be replacing it when I get the new one.
The electronics are just pretty crappy, for a first guitar it is fine the pickups are on the very low end for output compared to other ceramic pickups.

Not sure how big you are into guitar and everything. It is not a guitar I would buy to play but its a fun guitar to use for learning how to play as well as how to work on a guitar.

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you are generally getting what you are paying for.

deft reef
#

So if I replace pick ups I be good

lethal fractal
#

Replace the pots and the pickups, level the frets, replace the nut or just will have to level out the nut as it tended to be very high, more basic stuff like intonation and the action, probably will have to adjust the truss rod, tuning stability on it sucks but i am fine with tuning a lot.

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I could have just gotten the bottom of the barel when it came to them but they are a cheap guitar price wise and you are getting what you are paying for.

deft reef
#

Eh good enough

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I just need it for Korn

lethal fractal
#

I would not recommend tuning past A standard on it as it has a 25.5 scale length you can with thicker strings but starts sounding crappy i really do not like going that thick

deft reef
#

I like muddy

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What my current sounds like

lethal fractal
#

Have fun with your black metal

deft reef
#

Bet

wind mauve
# deft reef Wdym

take his advice with a grain of salt cause he's rather privileged when it comes to high-quality instruments at his age

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my main guitar is a gio 7 as well

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i love the thing, it sounds fine and even better with a new bridge pickup, and when it comes to budget 7s it's the best on the market

#

people say the scale length is a big issue but i tune to A-standard or drop-G regularly and it's entirely fine, but it does require some serious dialling-in on your amp

lethal fractal
wind mauve
#

frankly for most guitarists who want a cheap 7 string it'll work out of the box

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and if it doesn't for you, you probably didn't want a cheap 7 string in the first place

lethal fractal
#

It will work yes

wind mauve
#

ergo, get a $500 instead of a $200 that you're gonna put $300 of work into

lethal fractal
#

If you are able to do the $300 of work into a $200 guitar I'd argue it would be a better guitar although really does depend on what you do.

toxic wharf
#

If theres any market in which 'you get what you pay for' holds up it tends to be musical instruments.

deft reef
#

Schecter has the next one up for 7 strings but it’s more money than I want to spend for a secondary guitar

toxic wharf
#

If thats good enough, its a great guitar. Its ibanez after all and they are comfortable to begin with. Is it anything to properly record with? Take it outside of your house a lot without a case thats equal the price of the guitar with all the humidity and temperature changes? Play weekly with your band for a few hours? Probably not.

deft reef
#

Just needed a guitar for Korn and slaughter to prevail

lethal fractal
#

I think the biggest issue is the input jack unless I just somehow got something different, it's the worst jack in existence and very quickly startes crapping out. Made the guitar pointless to play, as all you get is 20 minutes of finding the right spot for the cord you move a bit and it's out of place and yelling at you.

deft reef
lethal fractal
#

It's an issue to look out for on cheap guitars generally, the shop I'm doing an apprenticeship at has 5 cheaper $400 and under guitars all in for new jacks.

deft reef
#

Dude I get paid minimum wage and I’m high school

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I don’t have much money

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Most goes into supplements

#

250 is a good chunk of money for me, I’ll just upgrade parts if I need

toxic wharf
lethal fractal
# deft reef Dude I get paid minimum wage and I’m high school

I get paid just above minimum wage and am in high-school as well... I never said 250 wasn't for guitars it is though I understand where you are coming from.

I own the guitar it's cheap, no way around it but you can put work into it and make it play well.

deft reef
#

Don’t need a new neck pick up I never use it

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Maybe the nut with a black tusk but that’s like 11 cheep

toxic wharf
#

Ok

#

I'd still save up and just wait before buying.

deft reef
#

And get what instead

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I also got it because I love the shape that’s why I did not get the Schecter

toxic wharf
#

Something in the 500-600 range the difference is already noticeable

toxic wharf
#

Id feel a thief of my own pocket buying a Gio lol

lethal fractal
deft reef
#

But like I said it is a secondary guitar

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My main is a Schecter cr-6 that is like 800 but I got it for 500

lethal fractal
#

I still don't get this whole secondary guitar thing, if it's just a side guitar why not save to get something nicer if there is no rush to get the thing if it's just a secondary guitar.

In the end still up to you

toxic wharf
#

Kinda agree...especially if its just for Korn and its a 25.5 scale length guitar. Just tune your six stringer down lol

deft reef
lethal fractal
#

Korn has plenty of 6 string

deft reef
#

Like when I get a jazz master I’ll spend more on it because I’d use it for nirvana, Green Day, Molchat

#

But the 7 is for slaughter and Korn

toxic wharf
#

Jazz master, nice

deft reef
#

Imma get a bass first because I want one but eventually you know

lethal fractal
#

Gotta get a bass Amp as well

deft reef
#

Imma get a Fender Rumble 40 1x10

#

It’s 200 and has nobs I need

lethal fractal
#

I got a older fender rumble fine for 4 string

deft reef
#

Solid

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Imma get a Ibenez 5

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Like this

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I’ve tried one out in person, 4 string version and I loved it

lethal fractal
#

The rumble sucks for a 5 string bass though I do have the older model as I got it for nearly free so just got it...

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Haven't played a newer one yet

lethal fractal
#

It's just to low for mine it sounds awful

#

Small little speaker can't handle it probably some other things I haven't bothered to look into it as it's just something fun I got

deft reef
#

Eh, best I’m allowed to get

#

Parents like to control how I spend my money a bit

toxic wharf
#

Thats almost like 800 for a 7 string guitar if you dont buy the bass

#

Bass is for CPU

lethal fractal
#

Yes

deft reef
lethal fractal
#

To me it seems you really don't need a 7 string guitar

deft reef
#

If I replace a few parts when I get money I will get a guitar that’s looks how I want and sounds it

#

Not to even record with one just to have fun with you know

#

Pls going off of this video it seems pretty good

toxic wharf
#

The thing is, people here tend to have huge confirmation bias. They come here and ask if their 300 or 400 dollar guitar is good. Others react saying...for a 300 or 400 its fine but it has flaws and might be worth saving up some money. If that happens I notice the immediate counterreaction where people say the 300 dollar guitar seems great to them. If thats the case why even ask?

gritty garden
#

I stopped recommending stuff because people mostly as a question, give you the options. You take time to suggest something that's more value for money/better value... when they only wanted confirmation bias on the one they wanted 🙂

lethal fractal
#

Yep

toxic wharf
gritty garden
#

It's why I just default to "buy a quad cortex" when people ask for amp recommendations. For the most part it'll be out of their price range, and they won't pay attention to a serious recommendation anyway 🤣

toxic wharf
#

Making music is just a hobby in which saving money and being smart with it pays off unlike going for cheap stuff just to 'have' it. Especially when you are semi serious enough about it to ask people for advice

lethal fractal
#

Fair

toxic wharf
#

'Just buy a dumble, you get so much for 5000 dollar'

dire kayak
#

but I'd never do that it's illegal

#

I am not encouraging piracy that was a joke

toxic wharf
#

Also plugins dont make a crap guitar suddenly sound or play fantastic.

#

But we already discussed this, and since you cant hear the difference between pick ups its a futile discussion

dire kayak
#

that's neural isn't it

dire kayak
#

yes you can hear minor difference when played alone

#

but speakers and amp overall change sound the most

#

so plugins are the way to go

dire kayak
toxic wharf
median hemlock
lethal fractal
jade beacon
wet atlas
#

noice

graceful socket
grizzled patrol
#

Do you guys know if the Schecter Reaper 7 MS Is a good guitar?

median hemlock
grizzled patrol
#

That's what I was thinking! I heard that the finish for this guitar in specific can end up coming in not so great condition tho

median hemlock
grizzled patrol
#

Thx

lethal fractal
#

It also not having locking tuners for the price is a bit sad but fine

grizzled patrol
#

Yeah, I'm looking for a 7 string metal guitar and that one looks like it'll do the job

lethal fractal
#

It will do the job

grizzled patrol
#

My guitar teacher says Schecter is the way to go so I trust him

#

Bass wise I've been looking at the Omen elite 5 but can't seem to find a lot of info on it

lethal fractal
#

That's very subjective to the person.
I always recommend trying to find a store that has one and try it first to see if you like it.

open fjord
gleaming wing
lethal fractal
gleaming wing
#

Yeah my university is letting me borrow it

#

It's nice

lethal fractal
median hemlock
#

really classy

scenic dune
#

Does anyone know where I can find a pack of locking tuning machines for an eight string? I haven’t seen any that are promising and I feel like my only good option that’s gonna be pretty expensive is to just buy two six string packs

lethal fractal
scenic dune
lethal fractal
digital mesa
#

worth a look, though

lethal fractal
#

Tuners are always expensive it's one of the things a lot of people I have tend to found seem cheap but nope they are a big chunk of a guitar price.

lethal fractal
#

That's pretty

gleaming wing
#

That's a gorgeous bass

distant horizon
#

Does anyone have any experience with using Cubase?

#

been trying to use my Archetype Gojira with it, but im not getting any sound from it

white oar
#

hello everyone, just asking for some recommendations for a guitar tuner. I'm hoping to get a 7 string soon so I just want a more accurate and easy to use tuner 😃

#

my one is not exactly the best btw 😅

white oar
lethal fractal
#

Budget?

white oar
lethal fractal
#

That’s a good price I’ll look in a second

toxic wharf
#

Or just a Boss chromatic tuner

small imp
#

hey guys im looking for a good practice routine?

lethal fractal
lethal fractal
gritty garden
small imp
#

Ah yh my bad
Metal
my current schedule? im focused on practicing songs. i have practicing scales and general metal techniques too. all self taught.
i think im looking for a way to learn Lead guitar cuz i want to be able to create lead parts easily.
my schedules usually focus on technique, scales and songs.

gritty garden
#

If you know some riffs of songs then look at more riffs from those songs. Then add the rhythm chords and hey presto you've learnt a song

#

Songs are a lot of copy pasta so once you've learnt a verse that's usually the same, maybe with a tiny variation later on. Same with a chorus etc. So you only really learn a couple of parts then figure out the pattern verse, chorus, verse, chorus, breakdown, chorus etc.

small imp
#

ah ok
thanks

lethal fractal
#

Learn your scales and their modes as well as the chords within the scales

small imp
#

yh will do

lethal fractal
small imp
open fjord
#

So uhhb

#

Who here likes LTD?

#

Like LTD guitars.

wispy flint
#

they're cool

open fjord
#

I found that in my local GC today.

wispy flint
#

that's dope

open fjord
#

An EC-1000 for less that 1k.

wispy flint
#

a steal tbh

open fjord
#

Fr.

#

I'm not an LP guy. But I know someone here is.

gritty garden
gleaming wing
open fjord
gleaming wing
#

Heh the emphasis was on take. I'm broke 😂

open fjord
dry parrot
#

im so pissed

#

making a concious effort to stop my pinky from flying it still does so

#

im been trying to correct this one issue for over half an hour and absolutely no progress

gritty garden
#

Takes more than a half an hour session

acoustic cobalt
#

At least like

#

3 or smth

#

(Trust)

open fjord
full hedge
#

Anyone ever used a Framus cobra and if so is it good ?

lethal fractal
full hedge
lethal fractal
wind mauve
#

viable technique or nah

lethal fractal
#

Nah

wind mauve
#

are we certain of this

#

he was definitely shredding

lethal fractal
wind mauve
#

ok but like fr

lethal fractal
#

Definitely was shredding up that vegetable though

wind mauve
#

impressive chompers on him for sure

#

what about the bassist

#

how we feelin bout him

ember inlet
#

I think his bass isn't low enough

#

If it was lower maybe his technique would have been better

wind mauve
#

like the tuning

ember inlet
#

No, I mean like the position he has the bass in

wind mauve
#

i mean

ember inlet
#

I'm sorry my english is not perfect

wind mauve
#

it seemed to be working for him

#

he was certainly playing it

ember inlet
#

I mean he was

wind mauve
#

how bout that nunchuck technique tho

#

haven't seen that one since 1982

ember inlet
#

It is for sure interesting

open fjord
primal parrot
#

anyone got tips on how to create a chorus that fits my main riff

#

really like the riff but cant seem to make the chorus match

lapis reef
#

Yoooo

#

Rate build out of 10

#

Im tying to make a headless guitar

dusty tangle
#

not sure if this is the right place to post this but seems like everyone here plays either guitar/bass, is anyone in or around toledo/tiffin ohio area that may be interested in joining a djent/deathcore project?

gleaming wing
#

But I moved away like 8 months ago 😭

#

I would totally have been down

dusty tangle
#

move back

gleaming wing
#

Nah Tennessee is better

dusty tangle
#

my brother is moving out of tennesse back to ohio to be in the band on friday

gleaming wing
#

Oh dang

#

I'll be up there for a week in March

dusty tangle
#

sheesh, where abouts in TN ar you?

gleaming wing
#

Chattanooga

full hedge
lethal fractal
median hemlock
median hemlock
wind mauve
#

anyone got recommendations for drum libraries? preferably something that can be played with kontakt free or another program that isn’t paid

#

i been using krimh free but i can afford some good shit soon so

median hemlock
#

tbh nothing beats having a live drummer and recording him......

wind mauve
#

god i wish

#

but if i had that i wouldn’t be asking now answer the question

median hemlock
#

honestly im not sure, im not huge w/ recording....

gleaming wing
median hemlock
#

its a pretty area

gleaming wing
#

It really is

#

I miss it

median hemlock
#

im a big hunter and the mountains are right there as well

median hemlock
median hemlock
#

im in friggin alabama now

gleaming wing
#

Oof lmao

median hemlock
#

stoobid military

open fjord
open fjord
#

@dry parrot You said you wanted to hear the difference between the Strat with Deathbuckers and "The Beast" right?

dire kayak
#

what was the difference or same between the two

#

whatever it is sure I'd like to hear them in a metal mix, because that's most of where guitars tone matters, is if it sounds good in a song

#

of course if you're just playing solo guitar I guess small details can matter much more

#

and it's no bother comparing passive humbuckers to active to single pickups

#

those will all have very different sounds

bright latch
#

https://youtu.be/HZdCE8kkTSI?feature=shared what tuning is this song in?

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amber river
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Hello, my friend and I have been trying to record music for the past few months and we have been having troubles getting the guitar to sound "clean." We have tried to fix the issue, but could not find a solution, so we recorded 2 songs with a muddy-ish guitar. I did not know if this was a hardware issue or just a software issue. If anyone has any advice please @ or DM me. 🙏 🙏 🙏

lethal fractal
silver valve
#

That sounds so fucking dumb I love it

#

Blackened thall

lethal fractal
#

It's something

silver valve
#

I think it's actually nothing

#

It isn't even noise it's just brown notes

lethal fractal
silver valve
#

yes

#

absolutely

lethal fractal
#

Okay... I gotta stop being a musician and start being a listener, I dislike it but probably due to it being isolated and not being played to anything, anyways I'll see if I can write something using that as my base that's my first single project.

silver valve
#

That alone sounda awesome to me

lethal fractal
#

I hate anything I play by itself add a backing track and I'll be like oh this works

silver valve
#

TBH this sounds like an intro to an album or just a song

lethal fractal
#

Well that's what it will be

silver valve
#

I can already imagine this sections and then some crazy shredding

lethal fractal
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Give me like 2 months to procrastinate on it might be half finished

silver valve
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lol

lethal fractal
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This is the table I gotta move everything off then the table then the bed then all back in, (that is cheese cloth I was making almond milk)

silver valve
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Hey it's your music take as long as want

lethal fractal
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Ya

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Piss off the fans

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Fan

silver valve
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lol

lethal fractal
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I want to piss myself off by playing the kindergarten clean up song

bright latch
lethal fractal
# bright latch So what tuning is this?

The chords seem to be Ab Gb E Eb B all of that can be achieved in E standard, although tuning doesn't matter much as long as you got the lowest and highest not in the range you can generally play it if the guitar is tuned somewhat normally so chords aren't a pain to play you can play it.

lethal fractal
# bright latch How do I do the cords

There are so many different ways, I don't know which positions they use, you'd have to put in the work to find each note and lay it out... Learning songs by ear can take a good bit of time at first

lethal fractal
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Would be good practice

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You can look up chord charts and pick whatever matches those chords but feels the easiest may not sound the same but will be similar

lethal fractal
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Ran into this guy's channel again good bass player

toxic wharf
lethal fractal
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😂

open fjord
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Reason being is because there is so much processing going on it doesn't even matter at that point.

open fjord
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@dire kayak The top one is the one loaded with Deathbuckers.

sturdy garnet
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Hi so I'm looking for a left-handed guitar any recommendations

toxic wharf
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yeah i think i gotchu

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what continent u in?

toxic wharf
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its also already sorted by prices high to low i think

wind mauve
dry parrot
sturdy garnet
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I know how to play right handed and left handed I'm an ambidextrous guitar player

dry parrot
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why go though the trouble of obtaining left handed guitars then

sturdy garnet
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Because I want one of my own

full hedge
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schecter

dry parrot
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i see

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well yeah cant go wrong with schecter

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and check guitar center has some sales today

full hedge
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they have prob the most lefties out of anyone

sturdy garnet
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Yeah and if I ever join a band it would be cool to switch it up on stage between songs

dry parrot
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unless you not in the united states

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are you american

sturdy garnet
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Yeah

dry parrot
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check presidents day sales

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on guitar center

full hedge
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list of all the 6 string left hand they got

sturdy garnet
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Thank you

dry parrot
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i have a demon-6, thats a decent guitar

full hedge